I'm dying please help

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I'm dying please help Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:45:18 2023 No.18800161 [Reply] [Original]

40 years old and 470lbs, if I can't lose weight I'm going to die soon. I have tried literally everything and I can't break the addiction to food.
I want to give up on trying to make food palatable and force myself to eat one thing for a long time until I can unfuck my body and my brain.

What is the simplest most nutritionally complete meal I can eat that won't tempt me to have 2 or 3 helpings.
I just want something bland that I can prep ahead of time for the week and just pull it out of the fridge and force it down and forget about food until I have to eat again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:47:46 2023 No.18800171 I dunno steam like 15 pounds of brocolli for the week i guess.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:50:25 2023 No.18800181 >>18800161 Look up the potato diet. You just eat potatoes. It's so boring you don't eat excessively and lose weight.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:50:43 2023 No.18800184 >>18800161 A fuck ton of tilapia, and cauliflower rice. Just throw it in a big pot with some bone broth and simmer it up until it's cooked, then store it in the fridge and just eat it cold whenever you feel like you are starving.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:50:59 2023 No.18800185 >>18800161 unironically go to the ED ward of a psych hospital

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:51:02 2023 No.18800186 I am also forty (y2k grad) and 922lbs and I'm alright. Can get up and walk around fine.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:51:44 2023 No.18800190

>>18800161
go to /fit/
go to /fat/ thread there
people there can help you much more than /ck/ can
but you need to know that you cannot survive off of just 1 food
you need nutrition, which requires diversity
you *can* eat just one thing, but you will not be healthy
you need fish, you need fruits, you need vegetables, you need meats, you need vitamins
you cannot get all of this from one dish
honestly what I would maybe consider doing is a keto diet, as your addiction is very deep
at least with keto, a VERY strict keto diet, you would rapidly lose weight and see results fast - which would encourage you to stay on your path
/fit/ can help you with keto
but the thing is, if you cheat with keto - like you do 6 days in a row of keto, but then cheat for 1 meal on the 7th day, you undo all the progress from the previous 6 days
/fit/ will explain more in depth
if you can do keto, you can eat a ton of meat & oils/fats - just no carbs - so it may be easier for you to recover from your addiction than some other diets
and you'll also lose weight the fastest

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:52:13 2023 No.18800194 File: 191 KB, 1005x696, 1 year progress.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm down from 360 lbs to 215 lbs in a little over a year. Start keto.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:52:57 2023 No.18800198 Oh, and it takes me almost two 1.75l bacardi silvers to get drunk. Your fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:52:57 2023 No.18800197 >>18800161 Protein shakes and bananas lot's and lots of bananas

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:53:42 2023 No.18800200 >>18800185 This

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:54:49 2023 No.18800205

>>18800161
is your problem with food that you can't help yourself from eating too frequently, or once you start eating you find it hard to stop?
If it's the latter, just fast as long as you can and cook a large meal that will allow you two or three helpings.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:55:49 2023 No.18800208 >>18800186 Post wrist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:56:47 2023 No.18800211 >>18800194 good for but only 100lbs in a year seems weak. what's your height?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:57:40 2023 No.18800217 This but with alcohol

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:58:54 2023 No.18800221

>>18800161
you cant go from no will power to total will power.

you just want to punish yourself and ' go down fighting'

why dont you stop being a bitch and go for a 3 mile walk every night

and cut out carbs and sugar. done. wow, so hard oh my gawodd wow

you wont do it though. you pretend like you have the nerve to eat one fucking meal and you cant even go for one walk every day for 3 miles.

stop fucking posting

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:59:33 2023 No.18800222

>>18800211
6'
I cheated a lot. Like this guy said >>18800190
you cheat one time on keto it sets you back at least 72 hours.

I'm humble about how far I have left to go, but just wanted to demonstrate that it is possible to lose a lot of weight quickly even if you're not perfect.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 02:59:37 2023 No.18800223

>>18800205
The latter, I can diet and fast just fine for a few days but as soon as I have to eat I can't control it. The hunger just won't stop until I'm bloated and feel like I'm going to explode.
And even then there is still a feeling of hunger in the background. It never really goes away no matter what. I hate it, I hate that food has ruined my life. Sometimes I fantasize about cutting my tongue out, it feels like it would be the only way to stop myself.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:03:16 2023 No.18800235

>>18800223
>I can diet and fast just fine for a few days but as soon as I have to eat I can't control it.
same here bro.
The trick is if you have weak willpower then you need to get all ""easy"" food out of your house.

Buy meat in bulk, cut it into appropriate portions and freeze it.

If you're like me, when you get cravings, you want to reach in the cupboard and demolish a whole box of Cheez-its. You're not gonna thaw frozen meat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:04:18 2023 No.18800238 Sometimes I can't even prevent myself from getting elections when I hear babies cry or smell baby powder.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:11:25 2023 No.18800252 >>18800222 trips of truth. good progress, fren

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:11:42 2023 No.18800253 >>18800181 I'm going to try this. >>18800194 Wow that's really impressive, thank you for sharing that is very motivating.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:16:00 2023 No.18800267 >>18800161 mcchicken

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:17:39 2023 No.18800272 >>18800267 How many?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:19:18 2023 No.18800275 >>18800161 Therapy. You don't have a diet issue.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:20:20 2023 No.18800278 >>18800161 google the incredible fasting fat man

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:21:14 2023 No.18800281 File: 1.36 MB, 498x207, 245773756.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18800275 You're right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:22:47 2023 No.18800285 Find a dietician or nutrionist who can help you with a plan, a plan is crucial. Maybe something with the 12 steps, where you have support not random anons

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:23:50 2023 No.18800289

>>18800161
I was in a similar position. Went from 396 to 150 then back up to 170 which is where I feel best.
Only thing I did was count calories. 1500 a day every day no cheating.
I was hungry every day. I'm still hungry every day. You have to come to terms with the fact that to lose weight and keep it off your diet will never end. Some people naturally have a larger appetite and if you want to maintain a healthy weight you will need to have or gain the willpower to do so.

Talk to your doctor about appetite suppressants. That shit was too expensive for me at the time but maybe your insurance will cover it. I think it's easier to get covered if you are pre-diabetic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:49:44 2023 No.18800383 >>18800194 This, as much as I think keto is a meme in most other regards, it definitely does wonders at making you drop weight like crazy. My aunt in her 60s went from close to obesity to healthy weight range within a year

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:55:55 2023 No.18800407 >>18800161 Don't be fat and retarded. It's literally that easy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 03:58:31 2023 No.18800415 >>18800407 Instructions unclear, I swallowed the whole thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 04:01:21 2023 No.18800429 >>18800161 Is dying not enough motivation to stay the fuck away from goyslop and goyslurp?

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 04:05:11 2023 No.18800438
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ive never been as big as you and i guess my own weight loss of around 100 lbs as a teen,young adult isnt much to base your own struggles around but from one former fatty to another, best of luck to you. im sure itll be harder for you but hope you can do it anon. godspeed

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 04:06:24 2023 No.18800443 >>18800429 Addictions don't give a shit, if dying was motivation there would be no meth or crack heads.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 04:42:04 2023 No.18800525 >>18800161 >>18800181 This. Worked for that Penn guy, and potatoes are a near-complete food, long as you eat the skin. Get a D supplement and you're golden. Godspeed you beautiful tubby fuck, I'm rooting for you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 04:44:24 2023 No.18800538 >>18800161 see an eating disorder specialist and consider gastric bypass surgery if you aren't averse to it. my cousin did it and lost probably 250-300lbs in about a year and a half

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 04:51:12 2023 No.18800555

>>18800161
Most suggestions are going to be diet but it seems to me your biggest problem is sitting on your fat ass. You need a minimum 3000 calories a day just to maintain that weight, get the fuck off your ass and go outside instead of just sitting inside munching.
You can't get or more importantly stay that big by having a couple snacks than you should. That is concentrated effort you've put into being gluttonous.
As far as food tricks make a giant plate of vegetables and eat that first before you indulge in carbohydrates and tears.
This is isn't just laziness or over-eating, you have to actually go out of your way to be this fat, now put down the fork.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 04:53:48 2023 No.18800562 File: 172 KB, 1068x766, eetrytr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18800555 can't argue with those digits

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 06:03:18 2023 No.18800715
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>>18800161
I used to be quite fat. The potato diet as mentioned is solid, but it's not reliant on potatoes at all. Ray Cronise, who originated it only picked potatoes because he knew Penn Jillette liked them. But anything simple, like rice and beans or virtually anything bland will suffice. The goal is to reset taste buds so you're not eating for pleasure, you are eating for survival. It doesn't really matter because it's not meant to be a long term diet. The point is to change your relationship to the food you eat.

That said, I went with what to this day I call the Stalone method. I reme as a fat kid watching some old talk show where they asked him how he was always in such good shape.

He said its easy, if you eat well and exercise 5 days a week, when it comes to the weekend you can do whatever. "Pizza, hamburgers, ice cream... doesn't matter. You've done good it's covered" pretty similar to how the rock now talks about cheat days. It really works though.

And here's a thing, I used to drink Coke like crazy, but on that cut it out other than weekends. The first week was awful and coke on Saturday felt like an amazing relief. The second week it was tasty but I didn't crave it like I one did. The third week I drank it mostly just cause I could. By week 4 I did bother, it seemed gross.

Now I have it on rare occasion and it's an intense treat but that's it.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 06:22:57 2023 No.18800752

>>18800161
>I can't break the addiction to food
You're not addicted to """food""", you're addicted to sugar and carbs in general. There are no people addicted to steaks or eggs, but there are endless hordes of people addicted to sugary goyslop.

Cut out all carbs out of your diet and the weight will start falling off and will keep off. The simplest way? Eat (fatty) meat and drink water.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 06:23:43 2023 No.18800754

>>18800161
>I'm gonna try (crazy measure)
It will never work.
You need to just eat less.
>But I get tempted!
Then don't make so much
>But I'll just make more!
Then don't buy so much at the grocery
>But I'll just eat chips
THEN DON'T BUY THEM

If your problem is willpower then make sure you're fucking full when you go shopping and buy less food.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 06:34:55 2023 No.18800773 remove all food from your house and stop eating. your body will fix itself. search fastingfatman

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 06:55:32 2023 No.18800817

Fasting is fine, but remember that fasting induces muscle loss along with the fat. There is no way around this. Muscle mass is needed not just to be strong or attractive, it acts as a glucose sink in your body and elevates your basal metabolic rate so loss of muscle mass also means a reduction in BMR which means you can now eat even less without getting fat.

The better route is to just eat meat and do resistance training to GAIN muscle mass so that you can increase your BMR and improve your metabolism. You don't have to train hard or heavy, buy yourself a set of resistance bands and do some basic exercises until you get winded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:29:42 2023 No.18801033 >>18800161 Isn’t there a medication now that literally makes you lose your appetite? >>18800194 Based, YGMI.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 08:51:25 2023 No.18801077

>>18800161
You have to work with your will power and habits first, anon. No diet trick is going to help because you're trying to build a house by starting from the roof instead of the ground.
I'm not going to send you to the gym or jogg, because this starts with the mind. Set yourself some goals you can achieve. Make your bed everyday when you wake up, even if its annoying. Wash your dishes immediately after eating. Clean that room/garage/backyard that you have been postponing for ages. Sell that extra thing you keep saving in your closet/attic/basement.
Try to get involved with community work, find a new hobbie, try to meet people in events and such.
Good habits work like chain, once you get one the next will follow. If you look forward to do something then you'll want to be at your best, to show your friends and people you care about that you're still made of good stuff, just like them.
Once you finish what you start, and once you get the will to do things that you don't want to do, but you still accomplish them, then you'll have the solid ground to face this with bigger weapons.

Still, it's not only about what you cook. You must understand your metabolism. You are obviously insulin resistant, and yout gut microbiome is also fucked up.
You have to eat more protein and fiber, foods that will saciate you. You say that you always want another dish right? It's not the same to eat a second plate of steak than a second plate of spaghetti. Eat things thats require a lot of chewing, get your jaw exhausted so your hunger becomes something secondary. There is tricks to fill your belly too. Drink a big glass of water before meals. Have some collagen peptide supplements to entertain your stomach with it before meals, it has zero calories and it's healthy. You don't need to starve yourself at the start, you can eat as always and then choose a time (6 pm) to stop eating until next morning. Half fasts are good for this, it will help you control your cravings.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 09:55:27 2023 No.18801174

You are fat, so your willpower is shit. You won't grow any anytime soon so you have to sidestep it. Remove anything edible and do two weeks of cold turkey water fasting. It will be miserable but since you're fat and lazy, the chances that you will get off your ass to acquire food will be low.

Now that you have detoxed yourself from sugar cravings, you do KETO. None of that frankenfood keto, but low/no carbs vegetables and meat. Dairy too but mind that milk and such have a lot of sugar. You also have to work out, but don't bother with cardioshit except for endurance training. Build your muscles. Also important, don't gimp your intake. Rapid weight loss will mean loose skin, if you go slower it will be less pronounced, though some will be unavoidable.

Only have food available that requires cooking, it's a good way to control cravings. Track everything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 09:59:46 2023 No.18801182 Eating only one big meal a day is what worked for me

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:17:19 2023 No.18801202 >>18801033 It's $1000 a month.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:20:33 2023 No.18801207 >>18801174 >do two weeks of cold turkey water fasting Yeah, no. That is a very quick way to end up in the hospital in a hypoglycemic crisis.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:20:44 2023 No.18801208 >>18800161 Just dont become like that chick who was 400+ pounds and got so lasy she got fused to her couch. Paramedics and police had to remove part of her house to ger out of there to save her life and her shit family was enabling her to do it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:24:06 2023 No.18801218 This is pretty fucked up and not just urban legend 480 POUND WOMAN DIES AFTER BEING STUCK TO A COUCH 6 YEARS OF HER LIFE It's really like a 20 year old story https://www.the-sun.com/news/5259988/story-morbidly-obese-woman-died-skin-fused-sofa/

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:31:15 2023 No.18801229

I don't have a problem with keto diets, I like them. Just don't send people that is obviously diabetic to go from who-knows how many carbs to zero in an instant. It is true they should begin to lower them until reaching a reasonable number, but I would not toy with such low levels of sugar when the metabolism is fucked up. More over, a person that can't stop himself from getting an extra pizza is not going to do your so lover intermittent fasting. There are steps that must be achieved before doing harder stuff. You people can starve yourselves with water fasts because your body is fully functional and you just want to fit in your old pants. It's not the same for a person that's probably pumping god knows what amount of insulin in his bloodstream right now.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:36:00 2023 No.18801241
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unironically drink sodas like cokecola .

anytime you get hungry, drink a coke instead, your body will take the sugar and then your hunger chem in the brain will shut off. even just a sip of it, like 2-3 tablespoons. do this throughout the day, you will lose weight, good luck anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 10:36:32 2023 No.18801243 >>18800161 Keto anon. Its the only diet that i have had success with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 11:12:53 2023 No.18801298 >>18800186 >>18800161 Americans make me laugh. Should havent got that fat inthe first place you greedy cunt

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 11:39:41 2023 No.18801347

>>18800161
Unironically, get most of your stomach removed. My mom lost 80% of hers due to cancer and now she can't feel hunger anymore. She needs to control her food intake because sometimes she just forgets to eat and starts shaking because of hypoglycemia

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 11:40:52 2023 No.18801350

>>18800161
eat lettuce because it's calory negative. For each kilogram o lettuce you louse about 20 grams more in the digestion process. So to loose half of the 470lbs about 100kg you need to eat about 5000 crops of lettuce give or take. With only eating 7 crops a day you should be able to loose all that weight in under 3 years. Yu do also need to exercise and take additional vitamines. good luck!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 12:03:08 2023 No.18801388 4chan/fit/fat

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 12:13:18 2023 No.18801408

>>18800161
starve yourself. drink coffee till dinner time then eat one meal. The meal will be big because you are hungry but your total for the day will be less than spreading meals out. sleep and repeat.

If you literally can't fast I don't know what to tell you.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 12:16:34 2023 No.18801413

Find someone you could trust with your life (literally in this case) who can take control of your money and has the iron will to not give in to you screaming about wanting to stuff your face with garbage (nor would spend your money without your permission). This would be a parent or sibling.

Have them purchase only essentials for you using that money, pay bills etc, including the food you need to get healthy and ONLY that food in the RIGHT amount.
Have them deliver it to you at frequent intervals and not all at once because then you will just eat it all and then have nothing for however long which itself is bad.

You will be incapable of buying trash food or snacks due to having no money of your own.
Eventually you will get healthy, and will be able to take hold of your finances again. You'd likely just fall back into old habits as you clearly have no discipline. But there could be a condition like not just getting back to healthy levels, but also having to regularly exercise and do so for a long while to get your money back.
If you pull that off, you'd at least have some power of will with which you might resist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 12:23:34 2023 No.18801420 >>18800161 Go to a doctor and get a prescription for Semaglutide. If they refuse then call the a faggot and order it online from India.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 12:27:30 2023 No.18801430

unironically go for meth or adderall, or a designer amphetamine. Eat bubble gum so you don't grind your teeth into dust. That's the only real shortcut, i guess you remember what phentermine was all about, that's basically it.

But since you can't have a cake and eat it too, you'll end up with a heart and kidneys way more damage than if you stayed that fat all your life, you have also fucked up your brain chemistry to the point that it could be reasonable to not call you the same person anymore, you're basically substituting an addiction with another that is way more fucked up, your teeth will be fucked no matter what because the lack of saliva will damage your teeth even if you don't grind them, and the weight loss will be too quick with a dehydrated skin meaning you'll become a walking sack of flesh by the time you're done. Oh, and chances are that you will put your body into shock by going from fatso mode to auschwitz mode, and with a damaged heart, that usually means death.

Other, healthier way : count your calories using myfitnesspal then start doing it in your head naturally (after a week or two you figure it out). Calculate your TDEE and your sedentary calory consuming rate for a day. That way you'll know exactly how much calories you can consume without risking gaining weight.

That way, instead of just feeling bad about eating a burger and some ice cream, you'll actually know the extent of the damage you've done. You'll also know that you can get away with a bag of chips or bi mac as long as you don't drink the coke that goes with it.
And if you do any sports, you will realize how few calories you lose when you do so. a 30 minute cardio effort (roughly 200 to 300 kcal) will be completely nullified by the liter of Big Gulp you got at the sleven. That was the biggest motivator for me to completely stop soda. I only drink carbonated water or plain precisely because of that.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 12:30:04 2023 No.18801433

>>18801420
>Side effects include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and constipation.[10] In people with heart problems, it can cause damage to the retina of the eye (retinopathy).[23] Other, less common side effects include kidney problems, allergic reactions, low blood sugar, and pancreatitis.[19]

Sounds like meth with extra steps

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 12:31:56 2023 No.18801438

>>18800223
>The hunger just won't stop
Nah. The craving for food won't stop. That is not hunger and this is why you fuck up - you aren't reading the messages your body is sending you correctly and until you can learn the difference between a requirement for nutrition and a craving for dopamine, you will continue to fail.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 12:59:38 2023 No.18801499

>>18801438
Not necessarily. You can be a huge foodie and not gain weight because you're not eating like shit. I eat varied, healthy foods at gargantuan quantities. But I avoid carefully any form of food that would get me bloated like a balloon.
A gallon of clam chowder is roughly 2300 kcal, meaning he can drink an entire gallon of that shit throughout the day and not GAIN weight. you can eat 10 kgs of kimchi to get the same goal, or 1.5kg of cooked paella (which is basically flavored rice and protein), and i guarantee you that many classic dishes, especially the ones with green veggies, can be eaten by the kilograms and you'd still get away with it.

On the other hand, eat a bag of chips and a tub of ben and jerry ice cream : 2300kcal. Except I know a fuck ton of people, thin people included, that will eat that shit throughout the day (not as a habit of course) and still have a lunch and a dinner. And that's exactly what fat people (including me when I was one) do. They eat extremely calorie dense foods that aren't satiating you because your brain sucks at counting modern food calories because the amount of calories per gram just doesn't make sense to it. We got shit that tastes like bananas but have 100 times the fat, but our brains didn't evolve fast enough to compute that.

I remember my dad being a fat fuck too, eating hamburgers and ice cream and shit but shaming me because I once drank a an entire 1liter carton of soup, because to him, the calories didn't matter, but the volumes did. But now i eat gargantuan meals and still lost 40kgs. And no rebound too, because going back to a baseline, no weight loss amount of calories translated into eating way too much food for me to relapse.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 13:43:46 2023 No.18801602 >>18800161 Just look at your bank account. If you have any brains you will be disgusted by how much you money your losing due to overeating

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 13:45:58 2023 No.18801611 >>18801433 Side effects are not real. It's just the pharma Jew avoiding being sued. Every medicine in your house has these so called side effects.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 13:48:09 2023 No.18801618 >>18800161 You don't need eating advice, you need to give complete control of your finances to someone who can limit your food intake As a 470 pound man you won't be able to steal food so if someone else can control your spending that's it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 13:51:22 2023 No.18801627 >>18800161 >I have tried literally everything and I can't break the addiction to food. stop drinking soda. stop eating baked goods. that's it. you will lose 250 lbs. over the course of this year.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 13:52:22 2023 No.18801630 >>18801298 those are brits, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 13:54:07 2023 No.18801636 >>18800161 >I have tried literally everything clearly you haven't tried willpower you fat shit

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:01:35 2023 No.18801652
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>>18800161
Well fatty, just shell out the money for fat boy surgery. Make sure they give you a lap band for your stomach after they are done.

What? Can't afford it? Than how about you quit being a batch and have some self restraint.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:03:04 2023 No.18801661 >>18800161 If you had the willpower to do this you would have the willpower to just eat less

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:11:02 2023 No.18801680

>>18801033
ozempic. I used to take it for beetus and it's constantly backordered and never available because they started prescribing it for weight loss. the diabetics are so mad because they think the supply should all go to them automatically. omegalul

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:15:15 2023 No.18801694 >>18800185 being fat isn't an emergency >but he is so fat he might die this isn't even worthy of an urgent care visit. A primary care visit at best

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:22:07 2023 No.18801709

>>18800161
just eat yourself to death. you spend every waking hour of every day horking down meals that normal people only eat on special occasions. you keep your brain floating in dopamine eating children's party food. you cannot bear a single moment of slight discomfort that comes from being hungry. you are a feebleminded, mewling piglet. none of us here give a single fuck about you beyond gathering here to marvel at your ability to type words on a keyboard with your hooves.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:22:44 2023 No.18801711 >>18800161 Eggs and potatoes can get boring if cooked the same way. You gotta spend at least one day a week fasting or eating zero calorie shit like celery and lettuce. Both for results and to test yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:28:19 2023 No.18801720 >>18801630 I dont believe you.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:29:22 2023 No.18801723 [DELETED]

>>18800383
Cuz glycogen, if you're weighing that much then keto is gonna look more impressive with 40lb of water weight gone before the finish line.
You will still lose water weight with calorie deficit, just only at a slower rate as your glycogen remains proportional to your body weight.
I always see ketofags losing the first 100lb but I rarely see keto given credit for the last 10lb.
The best way to lose weight is salt and getting good at not eating, then eating according to tdee calculator.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 14:35:36 2023 No.18801741 >>18801218 >"It's totally true, definitely happened!" >Posts a link to The Sun. Anon, The Sun was the British version of Weekly World News. Every single story they published was entirely made up. That was the point.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:16:51 2023 No.18801846

>>18800161
mix cooked white rice with a little coconut oil (just for texture, not for flavor) with some light spices like some dried garlic and pepper. Have that as your baseline filler food because it's pretty easy to add things to it to make you not hate it, like a little cream or some mushrooms.

But if you really need to lose weight, do what i've been doing: pick a day, and do one situp, one pushup, and one pullup. Then, the next day, do one more. Don't ever take a day off. It's only ever one more than the day before, so it's never too much to ask, and eventually it becomes a habit that you don't want to break. You'll get to the point of where your regular muscle you normally have will finally be tested (for me it was around ten days) and you'll want to stop, but it'll be a hundred times easier to keep going because instead of jumping right in to a large number, you had a slow, methodical increase which means your cardio will never be too overtaxed.
Remember: the key to change that sticks is not dramatic changes, it's small, easily-maintainable alterations that can synergize. Don't fad diet and only fad diet, do a little diet, a little exercise, and a little habit alteration, then when those become normal, do a little more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:17:40 2023 No.18801848 >>18800754 This. You don't put a line of coke near an addict who wants more and say that he has to just not indulge in it. Likewise, you don't put a fridge full of food near a person with compulsive eating habits.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:18:02 2023 No.18801849 >>18800281 as someone who has been fat his whole life, that scene was jarringly real and kind of took me out of the movie because he was so sincere

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:20:14 2023 No.18801855

>>18800285
>Dude just spend shitloads of money instead of just following simple common sense good advice
How about u kys jew filth.
>>18800161
Losing weight is pretty simple all u gotta do is move ur ass get any kind of exercise and eat smaller portions. My advise just go out of walks doesnt matter if its just 30 mins as time goes by ur gonna automatically increase it to 1-2 hour walks also i recommend u listen to audiobooks while doing it, its what helped me lose shitload of weight and i go out for 2-3 hour walks and dont pay a single dime to gyms or whatever. Just walking will fix ur fatass.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:21:35 2023 No.18801861

>>18801848
the biggest thing that improved my eating habits was not having easy food around me at all times. I have to actually *cook* food, or walk outside to go to the mcdonalds, and while that's terribly unhealthy to eat, it comes with a hundred other small things. I'm putting clothes on, im walking, im getting fresh air, im interacting with other human beings, and it refills enough of my Needs Bars(tm) that it's far more satisfying than just eating the food would be. Either option I choose is way better for me than having something frozen in the freezer that I can heat and eat in minutes.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:33:10 2023 No.18801906

>>18801741
No, The Sun is a shit-tier paper but it's just a regular tabloid not a Weekly World News comedy paper. Also I have no idea why you're referring to it in the past tense because it's still going. It has the largest daily circulation of any newspaper in Britain, by some margin. You might be thinking of the Daily/Sunday Sport, which is exactly what you described.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:39:15 2023 No.18801925

>>18800161
>I have tried literally everything and I can't break the addiction to food.
Your body's leptin response is broken. Leptin is the hormone that tells you to stop eating. Processed food poisons your body and breaks all sorts of hormones. Stop eating processed food and you'll naturally start eating less and thus lose weight.

I'm not going to tell you to eat meme shit. Just stop eating anything that's been even remotely processed.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:42:30 2023 No.18801933

>>18801848
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo4WF3cSd9Q&ab_channel=FloodSanDiego

Correct. Removing the temptation altogether is infinitely better than attempting to resist it. If all the food in your cupboard requires cooking before eating, you're far less likely to binge. If you never buy snacks, you can't eat snacks.

It's such a simple idea that you can apply to many aspects of your life. Monks had the right idea.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 15:57:46 2023 No.18801976

>>18800223
>The hunger just won't stop until I'm bloated and feel like I'm going to explode.
Because your body is resistant to the effects of the hormone that tells you to stop eating, leptin. Understand that you are trapped in a feedback loop of eating lots of processed food that breaks your ability to stop eating lots of processed food.

https://www.webmd.com/diet/obesity/features/the-facts-on-leptin-faq

Leptin is a relatively recent discovery, hence why you'll never hear anyone talk about it as it isn't part of the established dogma on weight.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:00:03 2023 No.18801980 >>18801694 You're fucking stupid, retard.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:01:01 2023 No.18801982 [DELETED]

>>18801709
>you cannot bear a single moment of slight discomfort that comes from being hungry
I agree with your post but this describes most ppl let's be honest.
I want to sell an appetite suppressant pill that's basically just salt, iodine, DMSA and calcium disodium EDTA. And some other things like b3, zinc etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:01:14 2023 No.18801983 File: 30 KB, 240x320, 3ADAABF4-AE15-4777-B7DF-996856E96244.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18800208

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:02:45 2023 No.18801987 >>18801980 sick argument fuckface while OP might benefit from psychiatric help, this doesn't warrant an ED visit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:05:17 2023 No.18801991 >>18801982 also magnesium that should be the complete list of micros most sick ppl should be taking

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:06:16 2023 No.18801994

>>18801987
Not him but nobody benefits from psychiatric help. Constantly outsourcing "solutions" to your own perceived problems is a very unhealthy thing to do. All people are really doing when they seek help is eschewing personal responsibility because it's easier to blame someone else for not doing their job properly than it is to blame your own failings.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:08:20 2023 No.18802002 >>18800238 So that's why politicians kiss the babies.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:21:51 2023 No.18802058

>>18800161
So here's the thing, If you don't have self control, or eat food that won't satiate your hunger, having a large fucking batch in the fridge might not help. I would either make food that is easy to make 1 portion of, requires additional cooking like pasta(1 portion only obviously), or can be frozen in portions so it's not that easy to eat again. This way you never have food ready without additional effort, unless you start drinking straigth pasta sauce from the fridge. I also tried eating half portion for 2 weeks, after which i felt less hungry when i bumped the portions up to like 3/4. You could also skip breakfast or lunch, depending on preference.

Anyway this is what i did, with no workout at all. It was slow, but got the job done, and i lost weight eating pizza and pasta.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:23:27 2023 No.18802066 >>18801994 I'm not gonna argue the usefulness of psychiatry my only point is that being fat isn't an emergency

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:25:00 2023 No.18802072

OP here, wow wasn't expecting all of the replies. Thank you for the advice I really appreciate it. Going to clear out my kitchen today and fast for the day.
Tomorrow I'll start the potato only thing and try to do that for a week and then start eating just meat and veggies.
Are vitamin supplements really necessary? I know I am low on D because I don't get outside much but If I'm eating meat and veg is there anything else I really need to take?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:29:07 2023 No.18802087 >>18802072 Supplements are a complete meme. Do not listen to anyone telling you to take them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:34:47 2023 No.18802101 >>18801983 There is no wrist in that photo. All I see is a poorly store pied de cochon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:35:11 2023 No.18802104 >>18801906 Ah shit, you're right, I thought they were the same thing. Fuck me for trying to um-ackshually some shit. Still wouldn't trust that source, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:41:14 2023 No.18802123 Fasting is MUCH easier than you think. Watch some talks from Dr. Jason Fung on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nJgHBbEgsE

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:42:00 2023 No.18802125 >>18802072 I'd argue vitamin D is both essential and cheap enough to warrant a "fuck it, might as well." I'd recommend trying it for a month. If you don't feel it's doing anything, don't re-up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:47:33 2023 No.18802139 >>18801694 >>18801987 eating disorder not emergency department

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 16:59:46 2023 No.18802174

>>18800161
Don’t drink your calories. Soda and fruit juice will not satisfy your need for food and provide little nutritional benefit. Be wary about how much oil you use, even 1 tablespoon of olive oil has a lot of calories. Salad dressings and some sandwich spreads are also a common trap when it comes to this, adding too much sugar or cream to coffee can be this too.

Replace unhealthy food you eat with a healthier alternative. If you have a sweet tooth, eat fruit instead of chocolate. If you like to snack, think of a healthier snack to munch on. Fruits and vegetables are good for this because they’re light on calories. Unsalted nuts are decent too so long as you pay attention to portion sizes. Honey may seem “healthier” but it really isn’t that much better. Consider baking food you may normally fry since you won’t need to use as much oil. Breakfasts are some of the least healthy foods people often eat, many of them are like desserts

Eat food with a lot of fiber, because that will fill you up more. Fruits, vegetables, whole grains are all good for this.

Drink plenty of water

Minimize eating out, be very careful about prepackaged meals. When you eat food prepared by someone else you have no control over the ingredients being used. A lot of food in restaurants or prepackaged foods are designed by a profit-seeking business to be tasty to increase demand, not necessarily to be healthy

Eat slowly

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 17:03:43 2023 No.18802182 >>18802174 >Still repeating CICO bullshit instead of addressing the underlying hormonal issues

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 17:20:13 2023 No.18802235 >>18800715 Stallone seems tarded... Sure eating well 5 days a week is better than eating well 0 days but if you binge eat fatty style the other 2 days you could still easily be gaining weight.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 17:28:09 2023 No.18802266
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>>18800161
Im gonna help no im gonna save you anon. get whatever you want, 2k calories is enough you will survive but here it is, whenever you feel like going out of your diet I want you to take your shirt off, go to your window and scream as loud as you can, like aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa no words attached. you will rewire your brain through shame. this is the only way you might survive anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 17:41:44 2023 No.18802295 >>18802235 Obligatory https://youtu.be/1NjTWvl8x-U

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 17:48:49 2023 No.18802323

If you're 450 lb you can lose a lot of weight without trying too hard with your diet.

The most important thing is the quantity of what you eat. The first step is to train the stomach to accept less food and shrink to a smaller size. What worked for me in the past is to do 16 hour fasts and only eat within an 8 hour window in the day. So only eat at lunch, then dinner at 6, maybe a snack at 7:45 if you want. And since you're 470lb, you can eat big portions and still lose weight. You still have to give up binging on fast food if you're doing that, your meal will have to be actually healthy foods.

The simplest go-to is protein (chicken, pork, beef that you've cooked) and vegetables (broccoli, asparagus, etc). But you can eat as big a portion as you want since you're 470lb, you'll lose a ton of weight within a couple of months. For snacks just eat more protein, maybe cured meats like salami and jerkey, cheese. Just don't eat potato chips or anything sweet. A 470lber needs to cut out starches and sugars to start building back insulin function, and it will keep you less hungry. No need to go full keto though, like you can have something like mashed potato within reason (not every day).

If you follow this for just a few days, you'll find that it becomes easy after maybe 4-5 days as your stomach shrinks. Only the first 2-3 days are hard, it's literally effortless from there.
This is a cheat/cope type of weight loss, but it's a very good place to start. After you gain momentum, you can try looking more seriously into your diet and look into exercising.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 18:11:36 2023 No.18802390

>>18802104
Oh it's still an absolutely dogshit paper mate, make no mistake about it. It's Daily Mail/Express/Mirror tier, basically 20 pages of Harry and Megan every day and the rest is biased political reporting,varying in flavour with the publication (Mirror is left, the rest are right). So yeah, they have a lot of bullshit, just not the Batboy/WWII bomber found on moon kind :D

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 18:23:24 2023 No.18802433 >>18800161 Consult a physician and formulate a fasting plan. It’s not for everyone but following a strict liquid diet and fasting will be the most efficient way to lose weight.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 18:47:30 2023 No.18802525 >>18800161 You have to change your eating habits little by little, there is no other way. Drastic measures are short-lived and you will just bounce back

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 21:10:17 2023 No.18802989 >>18800715 Anon, they all take steroids. You can eat whatever the fuck you want when you're on steroids.

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 21:28:57 2023 No.18803041

>>18800161
Step 1:
Stop snacking and learn to only eat at meals. If you cannot do this step, it's already over.
Step 2:
Cut carbs and sugar. Eat more meat and vegetables.
Step 3:
Once you can handle the basics, intermittent fast for a while.
It's really that easy. I lost 3 pant sizes with literally ZERO effort besides not eating like a retard.
Step 4:
Get some exercise and and learn to live healthier. If you got your shit in check, you can actually eat good foods from time to time and not worry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 12 21:31:25 2023 No.18803052 >>18800161 Unitonically starve yourself. Drink like a gallon of water a day and starve

Anonymous Thu Jan 12 21:59:09 2023 No.18803112
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>>18800161
>40 years old and 470lbs, if I can't lose weight I'm going to die soon.
>I can't break the addiction to food.
On the bright side, at least you can say that you've lived a full life

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 00:05:45 2023 No.18803476 >>18800555 You can easily eat 4000 calories a day by just binging once a day lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 00:13:04 2023 No.18803504 >>18800161 Smoothies. Add enough fruit and you won't taste anything else you add, like peas, spinach, broccoli, carrots. Anything can blend, it's great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 00:13:59 2023 No.18803508 >>18801994 One of the dumbest takes I've ever read

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 00:18:35 2023 No.18803521 >>18803112 Goddamnit Carlos… I love you

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 00:19:39 2023 No.18803526 >>18803112 CARLOS!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 00:23:48 2023 No.18803539 >>18800278 >google the incredible farting fat man FFY

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 00:30:13 2023 No.18803555 >>18802066 thats not what ED stands for. you're such a buffoon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 00:49:56 2023 No.18803612 >>18803539 No, fasting

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 01:15:28 2023 No.18803714 >>18801033 vyvanse sort of helps with it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 01:36:51 2023 No.18803802 >>18800161 Potato diet. Eat only one time in a day and only eat potatoes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 01:41:02 2023 No.18803821 >>18800161 >470lbs You don't need to eat anything anon. You can live for a year off your fat alone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 01:51:15 2023 No.18803847 File: 176 KB, 1186x1090, 1666305222598819.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18800161 welp its breakfast time, I will enjoy my donut, bacon, cheeseburger

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 01:55:23 2023 No.18803853 >>18803847 Looks like an average american meal, covering all the basic food groups.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 01:56:41 2023 No.18803859

>>18800161
Try keto or the potato diet. Alternately some people do seem to do well with carnivore diets just get a salad or veggie blended soup in once in a while. Restrictive diets seem to work better than merely reducing the same type of food you already eat.

You can also try wegovy. A new type of appetite suppressant pill that works very well. Do that in conjunction with the diets above and you should lose a lot of weight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 02:03:31 2023 No.18803888 >>18803853 The food pyramid was so fucking retarded, this actually probably fits it as a “complete” meal

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 03:22:19 2023 No.18804075 >>18800161 nothing. the access to food isn't the problem. you said it yourself - you are the problem. there is a hurdle of self control and discipline to get over. if you can't do that, you will stay fat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 03:30:13 2023 No.18804106 >>18803476 No you can't "easily eat" 4000 calories whether it is throughout the day or all at once. That requires actual effort to shove that amount of food down your fat gullet and suppress the shame.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 03:39:05 2023 No.18804134

>>18800161
Bro, you're almost triple the size of a normal person. Why didn't you think about this 200 pounds ago?
At this point you might as well go for broke and just try to become as fat as possible before your heart gives out and you leave behind a big stinky corpse for the paramedics.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 03:45:32 2023 No.18804161

>>18804134
You don't just get to a quarter ton overnight. This started in childhood and carried on because of addiction and trauma. Food is as powerful or more powerful of a drug than real drugs.
Imagine trying to quit a meth addiction if going cold turkey would eventually kill you and if have to take some almost every day but just a little bit and there are meth shops selling buy one get one free meth of the highest quality on every street corner and you get online and there are thousands of videos shilling the latest brand of super amazing new meth.
It's insane how rigged the game is against people in the modern world. When I see a little kid looking like the marshmellow man I get angry. Their life is being robbed from them and they don't even know it.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 04:00:18 2023 No.18804217

>>18804161
Except you're putting all the blame on the food and not the person or persons causing the problem. Billions of people eat food and enjoy it normally without being obese. A tiny minority have mental problems they refuse to recognize. Seek help if you're obese. It is 100% an eating disorder you need to figure out

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 04:04:54 2023 No.18804231 >>18800181 I know Kevin Smith touted that a bit. No seasoning or anything.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 04:10:25 2023 No.18804258

>>18804217
>tiny minority
When was the last time you went outside? The world is getting fatter every day, not just americans anymore its everywhere even fucking japanese are plumping up. I'm not blaming the food, read the post again. The problem is the addiction caused by corporations and entertainment pushing bad food on people and our brains were never meant to fight back against that. Foods high in fat/sugar/carbs were rare and we were meant to devour them to store up for the lean times.
We're just too safe and too secure, the human body wasn't built for the modern world. Things are only going to get worse.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 06:19:09 2023 No.18804586

>>18801033
vyvanse. i used to take it. it nuked any apetite i had and unfortunately i didnt want to drink water either but it really did work. it literally makes u not want to eat but really fucks your heart up if youre in bad shape. i wouldnt advise it for you at this weight, not until youre smaller and doing cardio.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 06:22:59 2023 No.18804595

>>18804258
When agriculture came and changed the diet from meat and vegetables to mostly grains, I'm sure people were fucked up for a couple thousand years before the better-adjusted ones were selected. We've only been living this way for about 70 years, give it time. In the year 4,000, if there is an earth left, all the obeasts will have been selected out of the gene pool and only those that legitimately thrive on McBurgers and soyshakes will remain.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 07:28:53 2023 No.18804751 >>18800185 I don't think psych hospitals have erectile dysfunction wards. And how the fuck do you "ironically" go to one?

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 07:41:40 2023 No.18804777

>>18804751
>how the fuck do you "ironically" go to one?
You go to the erectile dysfunction ward as a sex addict hoping to get lots of cute nurses to look at your dick while it "magically" gains the ability to become erect, but ironically you develop actual ED and can't get hard which causes you great distress as all the cute nurses look at your limp dick.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 08:17:49 2023 No.18804884 >>18800161 >I can't break the addiction to food. replace it with an addiction to exercise >lean meat and 3 steamed veg for dinner >oats for lunch >water >no snacks between meals >exercise daily congrats, you'll shit out 10 pounds a week

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 08:18:19 2023 No.18804887 >>18800222 Keto sucks but your diet will suck. Also just waste energy with whatever you can like shadowbox, chess or complex pc games like broodwar

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 08:22:12 2023 No.18804891 >>18800161 Take cromium and vanadium, kills the cravings. Take iodine to restore thyroid activity. 150 lbs or more is just water in your weight. Fixing your thyroid will fix the water issue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 13:06:40 2023 No.18805425 >>18803508 When you grow up you'll realise the sheer extent to which people want to blame others for their shortcomings.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 17:08:31 2023 No.18806090 How do you even get that fat? My upper limit is just shy of 300 lbs that's when it gets hard to wipe my ass. Every time I've gotten that fat I get so ashamed that it takes 10 minutes of stretching to take a shit that I lose weight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 20:04:54 2023 No.18806665 >>18800194 Good results for 1 year.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 20:09:18 2023 No.18806684

>>18800161
You can't be morbidly obese on a proper diet. It's not a matter of eating less, but rather of eating better (healthier).
To put it simply, you need to cut sugar, salt and processed foods from your diet. Ideally cut on fats too, not because non-trans fats are inherently unhealthy (like refined sugars are) but because they are calorie dense.
If you accept and stick to a veggie and lean meat based diet you can have 3 helpings and you will still lose weight. Also drink water and tea.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 20:10:40 2023 No.18806688 >>18806090 How the fuck do you manage to get 200, let alone 300 lbs?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 20:32:03 2023 No.18806750 >>18806684 Animal fats trigger a high leptin response, making you eat no more than if you were eating anything else.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 20:38:12 2023 No.18806762 >>18806090 >shartinmart.jpg

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 20:41:01 2023 No.18806770 >>18800194 nice tits

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 20:53:38 2023 No.18806799 >>18800715 >The point is to change your relationship to the food you eat This. /thread

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 22:33:45 2023 No.18807135

OP here, cleaned out my fridge and went shopping. Decided against the potato only thing, not sure I would be able to stick to something radical at first.
Got a bunch of chicken thighs and some rice and veggies and spices. Going to try and prep a few meals and see how that goes.
I think if they are made ahead of time I'll be less likely to cook too much at once.
Told myself I would just get one sweet thing before I went but after looking at my cart of healthy stuff I didn't want to put something bad in there so I just skipped the bakery section and made it out without any junk food.
Again I really appreciate all of the advice I've saved a lot of it to reference. If I make it maybe I'll make a follow up post in 6 months or a year.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 22:51:11 2023 No.18807161 >>18807135 best of luck OP. Sincerely.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 22:54:19 2023 No.18807175 >>18801987 ED stands for eating disorders you fool

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 22:57:54 2023 No.18807186 >>18807135 easiest thing to not eat sweets is just to not buy them, go shopping when you are not craving them

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:03:23 2023 No.18807198 You literally weigh a quarter ton. Just “”””starve”””” yourself, you lug around enough surplus fat to survive on a water only diet until 2025. Fucking disgusting prick.

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:04:37 2023 No.18807204
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>>18800161
I'm going out right now but I will come back and create a very simple guideline for you to follow that will ensure you are never hungry. I promise.

t. went from 395 lbs down to 245 lbs in 1.5 year (still going and it's easy as fuck)

no special diet, just macros though (and eating clean)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:09:34 2023 No.18807214 >>18800181 Yeah the trash man lost a ton of weight on that and then after a few weeks adding in some vegetables that seemed like a special treat to him after weeks of plain potatoes

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:12:19 2023 No.18807218

>>18800194
How does it feel knowing that you permanently fucked up your skin and you'll need surgery to look like a normal person again? I'm genhinely curious and I'm proud that you lost the weight, but I can see that being a big psychological roadblock for other fatties who try to cope and look for excuses instead of solving their problem

Anonymous Fri Jan 13 23:16:53 2023 No.18807226

We can't give you self-control, you are ultimately responsible for helping yourself. You need to find a routine you can sustain, and cooking whole meals (no processed bullshit) is fairly quick and easy. For starters:

- drink only water, carbonated water (no sweetner) and black coffee, absolutely no exceptions.

- have a dedicated window to eat each day. I find one meal a day easier to manage if you got a routine like going to work, and just drink coffee and water to suppress your appetite in between.

- meat do salmon, tuna, and chicken preferably baked in the oven. You can throw fresh vegies in the pan too (broccoli, cauliflower, etc.). Frozen is fine, avoid potatoes, rice, and most other starchy vegetables. If you do eat potatoes, sweet potato bake not fry.

- count your calories for the first week or so, so you get an idea of what your portion sizes should look like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 00:04:49 2023 No.18807384 >>18807204 dont bother hes already at maccas

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 03:09:35 2023 No.18808014 >>18800161 >Tried everything Except eating less, it's that simple, be on a calorie deficit that's literally all you have to do it's that easy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 03:17:33 2023 No.18808049 >>18800161 Have you tried to stop being a retarded fat fuck for once? There is no magical diet, you don't have to starve yourself, just stop eating like a fucking pig and don't drink your calories, that means only drinking fattie.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 03:18:34 2023 No.18808054 >>18808049 Drinking water I mean

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 03:44:55 2023 No.18808169 >>18806688 low iq. Point me to a smart fat person. You cant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 03:52:18 2023 No.18808200 File: 958 KB, 824x613, gabbaghoulish.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is an anti-Italian American hate crime

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 04:00:31 2023 No.18808227

>>18800161
>What is the simplest most nutritionally complete meal I can eat that won't tempt me to have 2 or 3 helpings.
There isn't one. Your goal is to lose weight. You're going to feel hungry and be tempted to eat more because your body is going to be screaming that it's not getting enough nutrients to maintain itself.
You have to either channel the hunger pangs into something productive, trick your stomach temporarily by supplementing it with something like seltzer, or find a way to ignore the pangs like you would the itch of a mosquito bite.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 08:29:30 2023 No.18809013

>>18800161
I was in the same boat as you anon but I broke my food addiction. I'm guessing you eat out a lot, right? Whatever you make at home will taste like shit until you stop eating out for a good 3 to 4 weeks. Then you'll level up your cooking skills and you'll never even bother with eating out. Also, you need to learn how to count your calories. I had a buffalo chicken wrap today I made and it's macro friendly. Start by buying a food scale and reading the nutritional value of foods that's online or on a label behind. It goes like this 100g for 100 calories.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 09:25:41 2023 No.18809163 >>18808227 >There isn't one. There is. It's called beef. There are people who have lived on thing but beef for decades.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 10:21:45 2023 No.18809240 >>18808014 >hey ____ addict just do ____ less LOL! kill yourself you stupid nigger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:17:09 2023 No.18809462 File: 135 KB, 1100x900, cxEH9lF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18800161 every time you get the urge to eat just go shitpost on /v/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:18:54 2023 No.18809466 >>18808169 Fuck off back to /fit/, retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:28:27 2023 No.18809481 File: 347 KB, 676x676, Make a fake noodle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18800181 This will make him fatter and malnourished at the same time, putting him at risk for stroke or heartattack.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:37:21 2023 No.18809495
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>>18800161

Listen up you fat fuck.

No more sugars. No more starches. At all. Just for a week. Then keep in mind the body only uses 5 FIVE ! ! ! ! ! grams of carbs a day and try to keep carb intake low. Like under 30 grams a day at first and try to get lower.

Eat non processed meat, cheese, veggies. Add fat. YES, FAT. Like grass fed butter. Eat until you are full. Want sweets? Look at STEVIA sweetened stuff. Add moderate, light amounts of sea salt.

Avoid anything that says HYDROGENATED XXX
CANOLA
RAPESEED
SOYBEAN OIL

Do you have type 1 diabetes, pancreas problems or any genetic issues digesting fat? See a doctor. Don't let them tell you to eat shit tons of carbs.

Now pay me $1000 for the personal training I just did. I helped reverse a guy's type 2 diabetes like this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:40:43 2023 No.18809500 Are you the Drachenlord

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:46:19 2023 No.18809513
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>>18807204
Alright. Said I would do this last night but I had no time. Let's do a quick version and if you're interesting further I can put more detail into it.

Disclaimer: Like the other anons said, you're going to need a little bit of self-control and motivation as well. You probably have that already. Don't worry, some of the posts telling you that you'll be hungry all the time are retarded. You won't. Though I am not 100% certain the 1st week or few days MAY have you feeling hungry regardless, after a couple weeks you'll fall into a rhythm and it will be smooth.

:::Part 1 (Macros):

1g fat = 9 calories
1g protein = 4 calories
1g carbs = 4 calories

Remember that. Food nutrition is split up between macro nutrients (fat/protein/carbs) that give you your energy and building blocks, and micro nutrients (vitamins/minerals) which supply your body with a host of important matter it will *need* to function correctly, if not optimally.

:::Part 2 (Micros):

Please look into getting an account on Cronometer. Just google it. It's free and you don't need the membership. You can use it to track your total calories intake and your vitamin and mineral intake, but it's mostly there for now so you can see which foods will supply you with what. This is for the long-term picture so you get to understand what's good and what isn't and, hopefully one day, learn to cook for yourself beyond the absolute basics.

Additionally, I highly recommend you look into getting a quality multi-vitamin. It will make the process easier and potentially fix some other problems you may have. If you're in the US or Canada you should try and find Vitamin Code for Men supplements, they are raw ingredients only and of the highest quality. Pic related is what I use. Being realistic here, you are not going to hit 100% of nutritional targets so it's important you use this. Mine didn't come with probiotics & enzymes but don't worry about that if yours also doesn't, I'll supply you with some recs.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:48:00 2023 No.18809517

>>18800161
What ever you decide to do, you need to control yourself and eat less.

There is no "cheating", there can be none. No back slide, no stopping. It is literally victory or death, and you do not stop until you're at a healthy weight. Then, you keep going.

It is possible but it will take an immense effort. You cannot give yourself the room to fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:50:11 2023 No.18809522 >>18808169 Patrice Oneal could explain social situations better than 99.9% of people and then he died at like age 40 from diabetes

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:51:36 2023 No.18809525
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>>18801218
>>18801741

EMTs have lots of similar but worse stories. Flesh bonding with furniture and toilets and ripping off to expose internal organs. Calling the fire dept. to break down walls for those who live to be taken to the hospital.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:51:39 2023 No.18809526 >>18801207 With all that fat it's more likely his body would use ketones and eventually suffer some sort of acidosis.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:52:37 2023 No.18809530 >>18801241 This will make him fatter.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 12:59:36 2023 No.18809547
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>>18809513
Okay, moving on.

:::Part 3 (Kitchen tools):

Watch this vid and acquire most of the tools there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H31YI223zG4&list=PL9_z7arfoMrsZM7J2D80YYvSzZXJ9lVbe&index=3

You don't *need* an air fryer but the others I'd recommend heavily. A good pots & pans set that will set you up for being healthy and is non-stick is by the name Greenpan. I use them personally and it is the healthiest non-stick set you can get. PFOA, PFAS, PTFE free.

:::Part 4 (Intermittent Fasting):

Beginner guide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqZsS03dlPk

When you see the word "fasting", it's not really fasting. It's time-restricted eating, which is a lot healthier and more natural than gorging yourself on food every 2-3 hours. You have an eating window you eat food in, and the the rest of the time you only drink water or things that do not contain any macros (fat/protein/carbs), like tea. I've gotten to the point where I legitimately never feel hungry outside the eating window or even think about food (unless I'm looking up a recipe intentionally) and I'm barely hungry even when it's time to eat, but I still enjoy the food of course.

I recommend starting out with 16:8, meaning you do not eat for 16 hours and eat for 8. 10 AM to 6 PM is generally the accepted starting point. You break your fast with your first bite of breakfast at 10 AM and take your last bite of dinner by 6PM at the latest.

:::Part 5 (The rough diet):

You said you're 470 lbs. That's a lot. I'll set you up with a 2200 calorie diet for now (you can reduce by 100 calories every 70-80 pounds or so or just plateau at 2000 and you'll be fine. So, a 2200 calorie diet. What does this mean macro-wise?

80g of fat (720 calories)
200g of protein (800 calories)
170g of carbs (640 calories)

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 13:01:07 2023 No.18809551

>>18809547
Listen, if this sounds autistic, don't worry. You don't need to hit these exacts targets. Just try and hover close to them. Within 10g of each (5g of fat) and you are good. I gave you a conservative estimate of your protein intake relative to your weight.

If you still feel hungry, you can up the protein by 20g or so at a time and see if you're still hungry. For protein, the way to calculate the minimum you should be eating is 0.8g of protein per kg of bodyweight. You can easily go up to 1g+ and still feel fine. Bodybuilders for example go pas that point, but unless you're determined to exercise hard, I would not recommend it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 13:02:10 2023 No.18809552 >>18809551 Anyway I have to leave again so I'll leave the actual diet recommendation post until I come back in the afternoon. Sorry.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 13:35:55 2023 No.18809618

>>18807135
>Told myself I would just get one sweet thing before I went but after looking at my cart of healthy stuff I didn't want to put something bad in there so I just skipped the bakery section and made it out without any junk food.
This is good to read and is the correct mindset.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 14:25:02 2023 No.18809709 Just remember that temporary motivation will get you nowhere, and what you're really trying to do is build up the discipline that simply forces you to do the thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 14:38:09 2023 No.18809734 >>18800161 greek yoghurt & oats

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 14:38:59 2023 No.18809735 >>18800383 keto doesnt do any better than any other diet when calories are equated. full stop. it helps with hunger for some peope but that's it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 14:53:41 2023 No.18809770 File: 142 KB, 850x1297, __erufuda_san_elf_san_wa_yaserarenai_drawn_by_synecdoche__sample-f6f6d48d4b98613ef83e13e6a715e2a5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18800181 >potato diet Holy moly

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 14:54:42 2023 No.18809773 >>18809466 Not him but die already you disgusting fat fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 15:08:24 2023 No.18809810 >>18800161 this is a dumb idea. you'll just get frustrated and order a pizza.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 15:14:46 2023 No.18809824

>>18809735
That's because you don't know a thing about how the human body works and think it burns and demands energy in some predictable constant way. There's all sorts of hormones controlling all sorts of thing in your body. The things you eat can affect their production and how big of an effect they have on you. If the food you eat makes you resistant to the hormone that tells you to stop eating, what the fuck do you think is going to happen? It's pointless regurgitating CICO bullshit when someone's body is constantly screaming at them to eat.

Fatty's bodies can fix themselves, but to do that they need to stop eating the processed things that broke them in the first place.

This is one of the reasons why keto gets recommended to fatties: it cuts out the processed food. The second reason is because if your insulin levels remain as low as possible for as long as possible, it actually increases your basal metabolic rate. You start to passively burn more calories compared to if you were eating a diet higher in insulin inducing foods.

Leptin was only discovered in the 1990s and you think the century-old CICO dogma somehow accounts for it? Fuck outta here. Telling fatties to eat less won't stop them wanting to eat. Telling them to eat things that give their body the breathing room to fix itself will.

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 15:16:20 2023 No.18809831

>>18800161
>force myself to eat one thing for a long time
this is the completely wrong mindset, and it will lead to failure. getting healthy is about permanently changing your lifestyle, not punishing yourself with a whacky diet until you're "fixed".
>>18800181
nobody is going to eat just potatoes for the rest of their life, nor should they be expected to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 15:17:57 2023 No.18809836 >>18809824 >Fuck outta here. fuck off back to r*ddit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 15:18:37 2023 No.18809838 >>18809836 >The CICOtard telling someone else to go back to R*ddit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 15:26:51 2023 No.18809851 >>18809838 >my internet pseudoscience is better than your internet pseudoscience!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 15:41:29 2023 No.18809892 >>18800161 kys lardass

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 15:41:42 2023 No.18809897 why do fat people think they are fat because they indulge occasionally in OPs pic? you're fat because you consume an obscene about of slop and sugar and filth all day every day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 15:54:57 2023 No.18809929 >>18809824 It doesn't matter what your body is screaming or what you want. You have a brain don't you? Use it and ignore the cravings. Just choose not to eat more. Every bite of food you eat is a choice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 16:16:09 2023 No.18809993 >>18800161 you already have a full years worth of food strapped to your body. You need water, electrolytes, and to not eat for a year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 16:17:27 2023 No.18809995 >>18800161 Hire a personal trainer or life coach or something to kill your ass about it every day. You can pay him with the money you will save on food.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 16:40:50 2023 No.18810054 >>18809995 best post in the thread so far

Anonymous Sat Jan 14 20:38:41 2023 No.18810814

>>18809929
It's easy to say that from a position of endocrinol health, but these people's bodies literally have broken feedback systems. I'm not trying to say they're innocent victims because their situation is their own doing, but giving them bad advice then blaming them when it doesn't work it retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 20:42:46 2023 No.18810823 >>18810814 >mommy I used a big word I'm a scientist man now!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 21:35:35 2023 No.18810993 >>18810823 Insufferable fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 21:40:23 2023 No.18811004 >>18810993 pseudo intellectual dunning-krueger midwit ass motherfucker

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 21:49:50 2023 No.18811040 >>18811004 What did I just say?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 21:54:30 2023 No.18811056 >>18800161 Soup diet saved my life OP anon. Look up "peel a pound soup" ate that with every meal as a filler and then ate a very small portion of other healthy foods. Then after a few weeks mix in salads and other veggies if you get sick of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 22:12:08 2023 No.18811122 >>18800161 If it's an addiction use techniques that fight addiction - logs, accountability to other people, talking it out with others, stuff like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 14 23:51:25 2023 No.18811506 >>18811040 prolly somethin gay

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 01:47:52 2023 No.18811940

>>18809770
plain boiled or baked skin on potato
not fries or chips or anything.
no salt or pepper
just plain potato
you can eat like 8 potatoes worth of fast food fries easy, but if i give you 8 whole plain baked potatoes to eat you could not eat them all, you could eat like 4 before feeling very full, probably 6 at most before you feel like throwing up(and dying of boredom)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 01:54:22 2023 No.18811971 >>18800161 >>18800194 Look at the mouth. this dude went from being an unhappy fatty, To being proud of how far he has gotten. Remember, you can do this too, It's not too late no matter how much you think so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 01:56:42 2023 No.18811983 >>18800161 Eat one fewer pie each day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 04:34:50 2023 No.18812567 >>18800161 Go Keto and watch Nikocado Avocado anytime you feel hungry. Whenever I watch his videos I lose my appetite.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 04:38:52 2023 No.18812582 >>18805425 I'm grown up enough to realize that sometimes people need help recognizing their shortcomings and could use advice when it comes to fixing or accepting them

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 04:51:37 2023 No.18812632 >>18811940 winrar also eat raw carrots, get that chew time in

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 05:12:45 2023 No.18812709

>>18800161
Honestly dude, you are going about this the wrong way.
Get youself a decent exercise bike and start off doing a couple of minutes a day. Every day.
Then 10 minutes. Then 15, 20, then 30.
It will be a lot easier deciding what to eat once you are exercising and beginning to see benefits.

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 05:15:03 2023 No.18812716

>>18800161
>I want to give up on trying to make food palatable and force myself to eat one thing for a long time until I can unfuck my body and my brain
Go see an endocrinologist and try some next generation medications. You should lose your hunger, drop your depression, and probably also needed, control your blood sugar.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 05:19:00 2023 No.18812727 >>18800161 Fasting

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 05:42:43 2023 No.18812806 >>18812632 7zip.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 07:13:32 2023 No.18813125 >>18807218 You feel so much better in literally every aspect of life that you really don't give a shit about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 07:40:55 2023 No.18813200 I only read half your post because you bore me! But have cabbage soup. Do it.

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 07:43:21 2023 No.18813203

>>18800161
the secret to weight loss is fiber. fiber is filling and has no calories, eat as much of it as possible and then whatever other normal foods you want. protein is almost as good in terms of satiety vs calories, so you could try that too. the worst things are polyunsaturated fats and sugar.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 08:00:19 2023 No.18813248 >>18809735 Helping with hunger is the point you dumbass. And keto is the easiest diet to do it on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 08:01:40 2023 No.18813249 >>18807218 This is literally fixable by activating autophagy through fasting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 08:45:27 2023 No.18813333 >>18813249 how long do your fasts have to be to do that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 09:02:17 2023 No.18813359 >>18800161 Panda Express I’m not even joking get a three entree plates to start go with sugary dishes orange chicken Beijing beef fried rice try to work towards less sugary items going forward Taper off

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 10:57:56 2023 No.18813627 File: 162 KB, 960x720, 911 burn comaprison.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18813359 All the sugar in their food will make him fatter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 11:38:58 2023 No.18813689 >>18800161 just stop eating so much you fat fuck seriously start by cutting your portions in half you fucking swine

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 13:40:52 2023 No.18813936 >>18813333 Autophagy starts at 24 hours and steadily increases in rate to a point. The word literally just means eating yourself, not that it's some magical cure for loose skin. Sadly no topless photos of Angus Barbieri exist that I'm aware of.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 13:48:57 2023 No.18813952 File: 17 KB, 399x280, 5EEB7278-5065-4A62-87D0-1C4A9583D5E1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18800181 >Potato diet Holy kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 14:23:39 2023 No.18814029 >>18800161 You have to exercise. Just going on a walk a day will do wonders for you and make the eating more bearable. Try to walk a little longer each day

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 15:54:59 2023 No.18814276 >>18814029 >Just going on a walk a day at that weight he's going to kill his knees doing that

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 15:58:21 2023 No.18814294
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>>18807218
Not him but I suffer from a similar issue. In my opinion if you want to look good it's still possible.
You can usually not tell when someone is in clothes.
Idk I don't always cope super well ho estly

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 16:05:03 2023 No.18814310 >>18800194 Enjoy your fatal cardiac arrest at 32 Might as well be fat at that point

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 15 17:27:55 2023 No.18814583 >>18802182 Thermodynamics don't care about your feelings

Anonymous Sun Jan 15 23:38:11 2023 No.18816222

>>18814583
Please tell me how many "calories" your body is "expending", plus how many it's metabolising from what you eat, and how you calculated it.

>UHHHH I WENT ON FITNESSFROG LIKE /fit/ TOLD ME TO AND PUNCHED IN SOME VAGUE INFORMATION SO UHHHH I BURN 2500 PER DAY

Fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 00:12:59 2023 No.18816367 File: 61 KB, 1200x800, french-onion-soup-fp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18800161 Is that a French dip? I love those as well as French onion soup so good

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 00:19:19 2023 No.18816392 >>18800161 You don't need complete nutrition at 470 lbs. You could live off Gatorade for a month and be better off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 00:31:37 2023 No.18816437 for me, it's one meal a day. I lost lots of weight and most of the time I'd get stuff like wingstop. also muesli and greek yogurt are good

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 01:00:21 2023 No.18816526 become lazy shut-in like myself every time I feel like eating fast food I have to remind myself that it would mean having to leave the house

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 01:06:36 2023 No.18816551 >>18816437 So one meal a day but whatever and however much you want?

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 01:33:16 2023 No.18816649

If you have tried a million different diets and your will power fails every time try to just get a bunch of small wins.

So first think about what your gonna eat.
5 sandwichs and 1.5L of coke for lunch.

Reduce that to 4 and 1.2L of coke.

Just reduce everything you eat by 20-30% but don't change the food you eat for a month.

When you go super extrem change in diet you kill your will power extra quick.
And with this way you see even small changes you can do are gonna let you lose weight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 01:34:12 2023 No.18816651 >>18816526 Ordering food to come to you is easy enough though.

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 01:46:19 2023 No.18816680

>>18816649
I will 2nd this but with a caveat.
Doing small goes every day takes alot of effort simply because you have to stick with it daily. It's really easy to say fuck it one day and then you're back to square one.
Since you're asking this on 4chan I'm assuming you don't have a primary care doctor or access to medical help. If you do then it wouldn't hurt to seek help there.
Since you love food so much why not find new healthy stuff to try out? You'll never know unless you try.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 01:57:26 2023 No.18816718 >>18816551 pretty much except no soda and it's better if it's mostly meat and vegetables

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 03:48:26 2023 No.18817099 >>18813627 >implying Americans are good at building sandcastles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 03:54:55 2023 No.18817125 >>18809547 >200g of protein for some guy losing weight lol i hate the fucking pseud retards who post here

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 03:57:55 2023 No.18817132

>>18816680
I did this then moved onto only eating 3-4 fruits till dinner time and lost 10kg pretty easily over 12 weeks.

Main thing was I just ate any thing I wanted at dinner that wasn't soda and it was only 5 days a week most of the time.

Ment that if I wanted to eat dessert I could and not feel bad.
If I wanted to go to lunch and dinner and eat lots I did.
It was just most days I would be eating much less than normal and couldn't really fail so never felt guilty about eating that food.

91kg to 79kg in about 4 months but it slowed down over the last month.
Added bonus I can eat nothing till 6pm and I wake up at 5:45am and work till about 3-4.

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 04:01:33 2023 No.18817141

>>18800161
>nutritionally complete
You don't need nutritionally complete meals; you need to stop eating so much. You are so obese that you could eat nothing at all and would still be able to survive on your own fat as complete nutrition.

>I want something bland
You will fail. You need to fundamentally reevaluate your relationship with food and develop self control if you want to lose weight and keep it off.

Sage Mon Jan 16 08:19:28 2023 No.18817865
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>>18800223
>Sometimes I fantasize about cutting my tongue out

That's fucked up self hatred right there man, and it's a dumbass fantasy anyway, it wouldn't stop you from eating.

Instead fantasise about having a healthy body to help the elderly and fuck women with.

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 10:24:47 2023 No.18818091

>>18800161
Unironically do meth. Don't smoke it because doing it that way is extremely intense, will not last long, and you will use it up fast. Instead, crush it up and snort a small amount. One small amount snorted will make you feel it throughout the entire day and you won't be hungry either. You could have your favorite meal right in front of you and you won't want to take a single bite.
The obvious side effect is addiction. If your mental fortitude is not strong enough you will become psychologically addicted to it. Since you are obese i have my doubts, but if you really, truly want to lose weight you might just overcome it. Good luck and God bless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 10:27:32 2023 No.18818094 File: 511 KB, 1600x1600, R (4).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18818091 OK breaking boomer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 10:27:34 2023 No.18818095 >>18817865 The subtext of that pic is manifold and amusing

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 10:31:28 2023 No.18818105

>>18816222
None of what you said refutes CICO. You can track calorie input and you can estimate calorie output to a degree of accuracy sufficient for a weight loss program. This is a fact. People being stupid or people lying to themselves or people being careless doesn't change the laws of thermodynamics.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 10:48:48 2023 No.18818137 >thread has been up for 4+ days and op has no responded to a single post GUYS THE THREAD IS TOTALLY REAL LET'S KEEP POSTING IN IT

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 10:51:05 2023 No.18818145 Semaglutide, clenbuterol, ECA stack and 1200 kcal per day. You can also fast for days at a time. You will fucking die soon if you don't fix this. Go to a doctor and do everything you can.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 12:57:26 2023 No.18818329 >>18800161 Go see a doctor and stop asking questions on 4chan

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 13:21:24 2023 No.18818374

>>18800161
Hey OP, like a few anons have pointed out it may be good to speak to a professional regarding the psychological aspect which I believe is very important to address here. Also, assessing your living situation and lifestyle works into this, habits, and then nutrition. I am certain there are services in your area which can help you work this out. It's ok to reach out for support and I recommend starting with your doctor. If you feel you're not getting what you need always get a second opinion. It'd be insane changing everything all at once and isn't a good strategy. One thing at a time, make that call.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 13:30:14 2023 No.18818394 >>18800161 Impressive weight buddy. Keep gaining, get even bigger. Start slamming into things. Be indomitable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 13:32:54 2023 No.18818396 >>18800161 Oatmeal with whey, can be made in 3 mins with quick oats on high heat if you watch it, stir in whey after cooking and even a spoon of honey if you want.

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 15:43:16 2023 No.18818647

>>18818329
From my experience doctors don't know shit unless it's a very specific issue related to their specialty. A doctor is going to give the same advice or worse than you'll get here. Eat less and move more. There's no special secrets to losing weight.

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 15:51:51 2023 No.18818664

>>18800161
Quinoa and Bean soup, you can add different spices (no MSG!!) to make it not as boring. Making food unenjoyable isn't the problem. It's portioning and the food quality. Snacks should be whole unprocessed foods like unsalted, raw nuts, blueberries, and avocados.

Stay away from sugary oatmeal, processed sugars and carbohydrates, white bread, rice, and potatoes, they will probably make it worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 16:11:50 2023 No.18818723 >>18800194 Your bones must feel much better

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 16 16:15:30 2023 No.18818729 >>18801298 Sometimes it would be so nice to nuke you guys. And yeah I'm 40 as well. B.1982

Anonymous Mon Jan 16 21:50:12 2023 No.18819912

>>18818105
>you can estimate calorie output to a degree of accuracy
Says who? This is my entire point and issue with screaming at people to just count calories; you literally do not know how many calories your body is expending and going on some shitty two bit website won't tell you that.

Hormonally healthy people don't actually want to eat lots of shit in the first place, so just focus on doing whatever will give their body the time and space it needs to repair itself. Keto unironically does that.

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