Kitchan Appliance General - /KAG/

[Anonymous No.18795874]

I want to kick this off by asking what appliances you think are UNnecassary? My gf wants a toaster and an air fryer / toaster oven. I think those are stupid and that we should get an instapot, rice cooker and maybe an electric kettle. We already have a kitchen aid.

[Anonymous No.18795886]

>>18795874
Air fryer is a must have

[Anonymous No.18795889]

>>18795874
A $1k rice cooker is not necessary, but absolutely fantastic if you love rice.

Anova precision oven is not necessary, but the size is actually really great. Bigger than a toaster oven, but a lot smaller than an oven. I use it for a lot more than my old toaster oven and my oven.

Sous vide. Meats on easy mode. If you're cooking a lotta of burgers, steaks, etc it is a god send for consistent and delicious output. Boiling in a plastic bag meme activate.

Microwave don't have an never will. The anova oven works 10000x better albeit much slower.

Air fryer. Only good if you like crispy things and eat a lot of frozen food. NOT the same as a convection oven.

[Anonymous No.18795893]

>>18795874
You can make rice in an instapot (it even has a button for it).
Toaster ovens are super clutch, especially if you are just cooking for a couple of people. Super useful for cooking a couple servings of vegetables without having to heat up your whole oven. Just get the Ninja Foodi Toaster Oven & Air Fryer or the Brevelle Air Fryer/Toaster Oven (if you have the counter space).

[Anonymous No.18795896]

>>18795874
Are you a Europoor forced to live in a tiny apartment? A two slice toaster and electric kettle can just be left on the counter by the outlet and the rest can be stored when not in use. It's not like you need 24 hour instant access to a plugged in rice cooker

[Anonymous No.18795937]

I live in a tiny apartment but I love gadgets so I bought some wire shelving. Now I have a wall of gadgets.

[Anonymous No.18795951]

>>18795886
Do you recommend one with a glass panel so I can see what I'm cooking?

>>18795889
Where do you even find a $1k rice cooker for home use? I was looking at these after reading reviews, I see your also a fan: https://www.zojirushi.com/app/category/rice-cookers.. Not sure which one I want.

That Anova oven is a nice size, really like that. You could fit a chicken in there if you wanted. Does it 'air fry' well?

Agree on the sous vide, and microwave. I own a microwave and use it to reheat leftovers, but back when I had access to a toaster oven I definitely preferred that. I use it for popcorn too.

How is an air fryer different than a convection oven, aside from it being turbo powered convection? I don't eat any 'frozen food' really (if by frozen food you mean premade, heat n eat stuff like taquitos, jalepeno poppers, etc), but I do make homemade french fries and chicken wings, and it seems nice for a gentle fry for stuff like raviolis, or crisping up nori.

[Anonymous No.18795974]

>>18795874
Unnecessary? People that have computers/tablets in the kitchen.

[Anonymous No.18795977]

>>18795889
>Anova precision oven
Wow, that even has steam injection? That thing seems super dope.

[Anonymous No.18795981]

>>18795951
Japanese import. Search zojirushi flame dance. The 100v Japanese standard works fine in north america.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it has something to do with the air being heated as it is blown rather than just circulating the heat in the oven.

The anova oven air fries decently, but not as well as a dedicated air fryer.

[Anonymous No.18795994]

>>18795893
>You can make rice in an instapot (it even has a button for it).
I've heard it sucks and I make a lot of short grain rice which is harder to do well.

>Just get the Ninja Foodi Toaster Oven & Air Fryer or the Brevelle Air Fryer/Toaster Oven (if you have the counter space).
I'm really considering the Anova precision oven the other anon posted. Substantially more than I wanted to spend, but it seems so awesome having access to a steam oven. I would pump out baguettes all day in that thing.

[Anonymous No.18795997]

>>18795886
if you are a retarded woman

[Anonymous No.18795999]

>>18795977
>>18795951
It has steam injection, and what they call "wet bulb" temperature control. Basically they have a temp probe in a little water, so it knows the "real" temp in the oven. This means you can set the oven to sous vide temperatures and it holds it very well. No more boiling in a bag!

I cooked an 11lb turkey in my anova oven. I love the thing.

[Anonymous No.18796002]

>>18795896
I'm amerilard on a double lot, 4 bedrooms. baller OG. i was just being an autistismo minimalist about kitchen appliances until recently.

[Anonymous No.18796016]

>>18795889
what does this $1000 rice cooker do better than a $10 bamboo steamer?
can it even steam rice?

[Anonymous No.18796022]

>>18795999
checked, do you have a separate sous vide or do you not find that necessary with this? glad I made this thread, I'm stoked about this.

>>18796016
speaking of bamboo steamers, what do i need to make steam dumplings? these things are weird so i've avoided buying any

>>18795997
explain, i need help deciding how i feel about air frying.

[Anonymous No.18796026]

>>18795874
>My gf wants an air fryer
cringe

[Anonymous No.18796035]

what's the scoop on manual espresso machines? i don't wanna drop $$ on espresso cuz im poor, but i want good espresso. seems like a good compromise?

[Anonymous No.18796042]

>>18796035
>samefag
i see these used on ebay for under $500, will they make espresso that can hang with the big boys?

[Anonymous No.18796068]

>>18796042
Yes they can, but the smaller portafilter is annoying because no grinder and very few accessories are designed to work with them. I machined my own blind tumbler to use with it.

The other thing that I wonder with them is that they actually flex when you're pressing the lever. I have a feeling that making the grouphead unlevel effects how a shot is pulled, but maybe that's just me.

With the less expensive models grouphead temp control is a bit of an issue you need to figure out also.

Pardon the mess.

[Anonymous No.18796079]

>>18796068
Do you recommend getting one, or ponying up for an automatic?

[Anonymous No.18796083]

>>18796035
Custom made out of a hunk of 3" aluminum bar stock on a lathe. It works wonders to declump your your coffee grounds.

Grind into tumbler, place tumbler over portafilter, pull inner tab/lid thing, shake and tap the grounds to remove all clumps, use a leveller then press. I get god shots occasionally.

The smaller portafilter only takes 14-16 grams of coffee also.

[Anonymous No.18796090]

>>18796083
do you sell these?

[Anonymous No.18796095]

>>18796079
It's a tough one. I've pulled thousands of shots with my pavoni. After 4-5 years of owning I do want to move up to something like a decent, but I honestly got my moneys worth out of the thing before wanting to upgrade.

Counter space is a major consideration. They make great espresso woth a very small footprint.

[Anonymous No.18796103]

I'm finally going to get a KitchenAid. Any particular shopping advice on them?

[Anonymous No.18796111]

>>18796095
>Counter space is a major consideration. They make great espresso woth a very small footprint.
Well I think that line sold me on it. This is definately something I want to leave on the counter 24/7 365.

>>18796103
no advice but props, kitchen aids are amazing. i use the pasta roller and cutter all the time, im gonna buy a bunch more attachments this year like the mill and meat grinder.

[Anonymous No.18796126]

>>18796111
There is a VERY steep learning curve with them. Prepare to make a lot of shit espresso before you figure out how your machine works and heats up.

>>18796090
You can buy them online for standard sized portafilters. No one makes them for pavoni sized portafilters.

If you need a custom one I could make it for you, but it will be kind of expensive. Probably around 150 bucks depending.

[Anonymous No.18796152]

>>18796126
>If you need a custom one I could make it for you, but it will be kind of expensive. Probably around 150 bucks depending.
well i don't have the machine yet but when i do i'll make a thread about it, hopefully you're a /ck/ regular and you see it.

>>18795889
>Air fryer
sounds like the anova functions fine as an air fryer, btw. i cannot wait for this thing. what do you think about instapots?

[Anonymous No.18796225]

>>18795889
>Microwave don't have an never will
how do you reheat cold tea? on the stove?

[Anonymous No.18796242]

>>18796152
Ill see your thread..

My mom got me a ninja foodi. I use it mainly to make frozen fries and dumplings. It works great for that.

Fun trick for fried dumplings in air fryer: open bag, pour a tbsp or 2 of oil inside, shake the bag like crazy and air fry them for like 15 minutes. They come out crispy.

If you like making stock and beans the electronic/automated pressure cooking is really convenient, but honestly if you're just going to be using itnfor pressure cooking stuff Ibwould soend the same money on a big ass pressure pot for the stove.

[Anonymous No.18796254]

>>18796225
My tea doesnt get cold. I usually use a 120ml yicing teapot lol

[Anonymous No.18796275]

>>18796254
what do you think about instapots? i like the idea of using mostly the APO and an instapot for most my meals, so hands off and automated

[Anonymous No.18796351]

>>18796275
There's this >>18796242

I would consider a newer ninja foodi that does the air fry and pressure cook with one lid. You'll have to figure out if the instant pot is better than the foodi. If you have an APO you probably wouldn't miss having an air fryer.

[Anonymous No.18796416]

>>18796242
I have a few big stovetop pressure cookers, it's really the automation I'm after. I'd eat so much better and enjoy cooking more if I could prepare food in a more automated manner, at least to some extent. You seem to think it's insufficient for this? I've never cooked with my pressure cookers before so maybe I don't know what I'm getting into.

>>18796351
Have you neopolitan style pizza in the APO? I'm very excited to make steam buns easily with the APO too.

[Anonymous No.18796451]

>>18795874
>wastes of counterspace (mostly cause there's better options)
instapot
rice cooker
air fryer
waffle iron
food processor
standard toaster
deep fryer
anything with a single purpose

>efficient multitaskers
toaster oven (can bake, broil, toast, steam and air fry)
microwave (reheating coffee/leftovers/soup/frozen foods)
griddle (can use as a range as well)
blender (in lieu of food processor and great for smoothies)
pressure cooker (with rice cooker/instapot settings. does both better anyways)

[Anonymous No.18796460]

>>18796416
The automated pressure cooking works excellently with my foodi.

I have yet to make any bread with my apo, but I can tell at 100% steam it would do good things with steamed buns. I've been doing a lot of experimenting with cooking meats.

The really fun part about the apo is that it is a very novel way to cook food, so you can really let your imagination run wild with experimentation.

For example
I set it at 185ish and 100% steam for perfectly cooked potatoes, but I used a silicon "bowl" and had the potatoes submerged in heavy cream, butter, cheese, and bacon. After maybe 2 hours I used my food mill to turn the entire thing into mashed potatoes. Superbly delicious.

48hr meats with 100% steam also works amazing.

[Anonymous No.18796462]

>>18795874
just get them all, live a little

[Anonymous No.18796500]

>>18796451
>instapot
>rice cooker
Why are these ones a waste of space? What better options exist? But thank you I tried explaining to my gf that toasters are retarded. And the rest I agree with.

>pressure cooker (with rice cooker/instapot settings. does both better anyways)
Do you have an electric model you recommend?

[Anonymous No.18796523]

>>18796416
Do you have any thoughts on cooking this incredible piece of boneless short rib? It's from a black angus cow I raised and had slaughtered. 24-48 hr cook times work great with short rib.

I was considering searing it, apo at 145F for 36 hours sitting in a sort of tare kind of liquid and then after the 36 hrs searing it again, slicing it and having it on short grain rice with a sauce made from the tare.

[Anonymous No.18796581]

>>18796460
>The really fun part about the apo is that it is a very novel way to cook food, so you can really let your imagination run wild with experimentation.
yeah that seems really awesome, been reading about it non-stop since it was mentioned.

>After maybe 2 hours I used my food mill to turn the entire thing into mashed potatoes.
wow that sounds awesome, nice use of the food mill. definitely sold on the APO.

Lately I mostly build my meals around cheap starches (bread, paste, noodles, potatoes, rice, corn, etc) to keep cost down so I can allocate more funds to higher quality meats, dairy etc. I do a lot of (americanized) italian, chinese (northern, sichuan), japanese like dishes along with traditional, southern and texmex american food. not sure why im telling you this but just so you get an idea of how i cook. i always mean to make more stocks, soups (great for leftovers), chillis and curries but never do, so I'm excited for the pressure cooker to help with that. im hoping between the rice cooker and instapot i can make some pasta pretty easy too.

>>18796523
i've no clue, you should probably ask the guy with a $1k rice cooker, $700 toaster oven and a $150 teapot rather than me lol. does look great though

[Anonymous No.18796593]

i think im basically pretty well loaded out for my cooking styles if i get the APO, pressure cooker and rice cooker. along with my stand mixer and attachments that stuff really covers all my bases and can really save me some time. only thing im really missing out on is a proper pizza oven that gets to 900F+.

[Anonymous No.18796603]

>>18796581
Same person, my guy. Isn't this the cutest lil teapot?

[Anonymous No.18796616]

>>18795874
>>18795886
You do not need an air fryer if your oven has a convection setting. Because that's all an air fryer is - a mini countertop convection oven.

They just called it AIR FRYER to make consumers think it's special and different technology, but it isn't.

[Anonymous No.18796622]

is it better to get high end consumer grade appliances or low end restaurant grade ones?

[Anonymous No.18796624]

>>18796603
yes, it is very cute. i almost got one but i should really be buying higher quality leaves before dropping $150 on a teapot. i had never heard of the clay those are made from before.

whats the plan for the short rib

>>18796616
well they're like super convection, faster flow rate than a normal oven. but i get your point

[Anonymous No.18796650]

>>18796624
Double sear. Apo at 145 sitting in this incredible bbq sauce like stock+dashi I made a while back.

I'll put up some pics of the process.

[Anonymous No.18796661]

>>18796624
I made this stock in the ninja food with an excess of goodness including a couple smoked ham hocks. It tastes like the best bbq you've ever had.

[Anonymous No.18796680]

>>18796661
>>18796650
nice, what other cool kitchen stuff do u have fancypants

[Anonymous No.18796683]

>>18795874
>General

[Anonymous No.18796695]

>>18796683
?

[Anonymous No.18796707]

>>18796680
That's most of it in terms of appliances. I have a nice kitchen aid mixer that has the solid neck.

My other main thing is my obscene kitchen knife and sharpening stone collection. Shigefusa and kiyoshi kato knives.

[Anonymous No.18796754]

>>18796079
Get a flair instead. Cheaper and better than a la pavoni.

[Anonymous No.18796767]

Here it is. Seared up, placed in flavorful liquid, going to sit at 145 degrees for 24-36 hours.

>>18796754
Only an animal would think a flair is better than a pavoni. Half of the experience is steaming milk for lattes and cappuccinos you monster.

[Anonymous No.18796769]

>>18796767
do you have a pavoni as well? you're that same guy too?

[Anonymous No.18796772]

>>18796767
and post short rib

[Anonymous No.18796814]

>>18796769
Yes.

>>18796772
It is in that jar... oh I didn't post pic. I think I'm actually going to turn the steam completely off and just seal the jar...

[Anonymous No.18796832]

>>18796814
nice, soon we'll have similar kitchen gadgets and be good bros. are there other pavoloni users here? i assume a few anons have the same oven

[Anonymous No.18796845]

>>18796832
I know at least one other apo owner. I was asking around for a long time for someone to provide a good review.

I've always thought of putting stock into the sous vide, but now I finally get to do it hah. I filled the jar to the top with my dashi, so the meat can't dry out and sealed the jar.

[Anonymous No.18796860]

>>18795874
Your gf sounds a lot less stupid than you

[Anonymous No.18796883]

>>18796845
what zojirushi rice cooker do i want? and that sounds delish, how are you plating / serving it?

[Anonymous No.18796901]

>>18796883
The zoji you want depends on how much you love short grain rice and how much you're willing to spend. A pressure + induction cooker makes remarkably delicious short grain rice. If you eat rice 3-5 days a week getting the 500 dollar induction+pressure model will make you be a worthwhile purchase. If you cook mainly long grain getting the base 150 dollar model is more than enough for excellent rice.

The flame dance model has a "burnt bottom" setting that perfectly crisps the rice for claypot style bowls. :D Incredibly delicious.

The burnt bottom setting has gone to near blackened rice, but it has never tasted burnt. It's incredible what the Japs have done with their love of rice.

[Anonymous No.18796909]

>>18796901
Yeah I'm a short grain guy myself, and that bottom crisp looks bomb. It looks like they don't manufacture the model you posted anymore? I love rice but hate hovering over the stove to make it so I'm pretty stoked about this. I'm looking at this model right now just because their website says it's the best:
https://shop.zojirushi.com/products/nwjec

Following this guide:
https://www.zojirushi.com/blog/rice-cookers-comparison-choosing-the-best-rice-cooker-for-you/

But I'm confused because these are cheaper than what your model is going for on Amazon. If these are their nicest models, you'd expect them to be around the same price at least.

[Anonymous No.18796921]

>>18796103
Best price for value seems to be the refurbs on the Kitchenaid website, you can get a 6 quart pro model for $230 with free shipping at the moment:
https://www.kitchenaid.com/countertop-appliances/stand-mixers/bowl-lift-stand-mixers/p.refurbished-professional-600-series-6-quart-bowl-lift-stand-mixer.rkp26m1xcu.html?

[Anonymous No.18796923]

>>18795889
I get really upset when a person calls an immersion circulator a sous vide. Let's review...
>Immersion circulator - an instrument designed to circulate a liquid such as water while heating said liquid to a precise temperature determined by the user. Circulation of the liquid ensures consistent distribution of heat throughout its volume
>Sous vide - a method, interpreted as "under vaccuum" in French, that involves vaccuum sealing foodstuffs within plastic envelopes with the intent to cook them in a liquid bath, usually with the aid of an immersion circulator
>Water oven - an apparatus for cooking that combines an immersion circulator with a volume of water to acheive a temperature stable environment in which foods can be heated to a consistent temperature for a given length of time
When immersion circulators first came onto the scene, adventurous chefs were doing cool things with them. Now, a victim of its own success, the circulator is inseparable from sous vide cooking and "muh perfect well done steak". This isn't just autism. These words have meanings apart from each other. Vaccum sealing is useful, even without cooking via circulator (e.g. marinating meats or compressing fruit). Circulators can work their magic without plastic bags (e.g. coaxing unique textures from eggs or hot water bath for making yogurt in jars). The possibilities are vast. It's not just a steak machine.

[Anonymous No.18796934]

>>18796909
Well that's because they don't make a north american model of their best cooker.

ZOJIRUSHI NW-LB10-BZ [Pressure IH Rice Cooker Flame Dance Cooker Goen Kamado Kama 5.5 Go Cook Dark Ink] 100V Shipped from Japan https://a.co/d/91voSID

I merely copied this from my amazon app I do not mean it to be a referral link. Search zojirushi flame dance if you want to find it.

It came with a dvd about cooking rice. Lmao.

[Anonymous No.18796945]

>>18796923
Baby grl. I know. I love my 145f eggs like you wouldn't believe. 165F makes the best traditional hard boiled eggs also.

Because of you I may just call them ICs from now on, just to stir the pot a little.

[Anonymous No.18796947]

>>18796934
Awesome, thanks for the intel. There's some new ones going for under $800 on eBay

[Anonymous No.18796969]

>>18796947
Damn scamazon. If you get a flame dance I welcome you to the elite echelons of short grain rice preperations. You can join me in the rice cooker hate threads calling everyone ricelets because they don't know what superbly cooked rice can taste like.

[Anonymous No.18797016]

>>18795874
got one of those air fyer ovens as a gift for xmas havent opened it thinking of returning it because from looking around they seem to be a meme. if youre gonna go air fryer are the ones that have more the deep frying basket look the ones to go with, the ones that are an oven are basically a glorified toaster seems to be the consensus from reviews and shit ive looked around at at online

[Anonymous No.18797019]

>>18797016
looks like this one by the way it keeps touting those "french doors" as the big draw

[Anonymous No.18797025]

>>18796969
>You can join me in the rice cooker hate threads
the current thread is what convinced me to get one actually kek im sure i read your posts in there

does that rice cooker have an english setting, and if not does it even matter?

[Anonymous No.18797030]

>>18797025
I was the one who posted that absurdly time consuming recipe to cook short graim rice on the stove to my standards. I still feel happiness that someone tried my method and it came out amazing for them.

It absolutely does not have an English setting. You can take a picture of it and google translate will interpret it for you. There are 6ish settings that you'll mostly use, whoch is easy enough to memorize.

[Anonymous No.18797041]

>>18797030
>I was the one who posted that absurdly time consuming recipe to cook short graim rice on the stove to my standards
Yeah I'm gonna try it next time actually, my current process is pretty similar anyway. But yeah it's so laborious that I don't make it nearly as often as I'd like, and I sure do hate getting distracted and fucking it up. I'd way rather be freed up to do other things, those threads sure are funny lol.

>There are 6ish settings that you'll mostly use, whoch is easy enough to memorize.
sweet, easy enough. thx for all the tips today anon

[Anonymous No.18797053]

>>18797041
My pleasure. When people are reasonable and cool I really enjoy sharing my cooking experience. If they are shit heads I love coming up with ye mum jokes.

If you are getting the flame dance you have to try a chinese style claypot recipe with it. The rice doesn't look amazing from the pictures, but short grain rice always looks slimy in pictures. These are stupidly delicious and using a more traditional long grain rice, or short grain works equally as well.

[Anonymous No.18797060]

>>18797053
that looks delicious. i plan to do a ton of brothy chinese and japanese soups once i get the pressure cooker. what other things do you use your rice cooker for, and for these non-rice foods why do you grab the rice cooker over the foodi? just curious what that overlap looks like for non-rice.

[Anonymous No.18797095]

>>18797060
The foodi is for air frying frozen food, dry beans, and when you need extended pressure cooking. You can make a super rich stock in the foodi to use in the zoji for a super flavorful claypot.

The rice cooker will always "dry" the liquid out of the pot. There is a porridge setting and water level, but that's a totally different dish. If you can get some dried scallops it makes a super delicious congee tho.

The thing I discovered is adding raw chorizo on top of your rice before cooking makes amazing rice.

[Anonymous No.18797105]

>>18797095
>The rice cooker will always "dry" the liquid out of the pot.
what does this part mean?

and do you cook meat or anything in your pressure cooker? it sounds handy enough just for stews, soups, chili etc but doing carnitas, pulled pork or other meats sounds awesome too.

[Anonymous No.18797119]

>>18797105
I have very limited experience with pressure cooking. Everything Ive reccomended I've had success with
Hell, I grew my own beans, let them dry, shucked them, and cooked them in my foodi to make the best beans ever. Most other thinfs I couldn't give you advice on becauae I havent used it for that.

>drying
Your rice cooker's goal is to make fluffy and non-soggy rice. It will continue to cook out moisture until it detects that it is all gone, so if you add too much water your rice will be overxooked, but it will also be perfectly dry.

[Anonymous No.18797203]

>>18797119
>drying
ahh i get it now. can i get a rundown on your fancy teapot? was it at all worth what you paid?

[Anonymous No.18797226]

>>18795874
thoughts on these?

[Anonymous No.18797236]

>>18797203
Dont remember how much I paid for it. If you enjoy or appreciate the minutiae of kung fu ch it can be nice to have a yixing teapot. The heat transfer is instantaneous and you only really get the patina with a real yixing. Also I much prefer doong 8 brewings of a good pu-erh than a couple with a big teapot.

If you use a gaiwan, love it, and want to step your tea game up get a yixing teapot you like the look of.

[Anonymous No.18797862]

>>18796945
I would appreciate that.

[Anonymous No.18798835]

>>18796923
Any recommendations on what sous vide maker i should get?

[Anonymous No.18799145]

>>18797226
waste of space, uses too much oil, gets dangerously hot on the sides (can burn yourself brushing against it), so much work to clean that you'll never want to bother. just use a wok bro. https://www.seriouseats.com/wok-skills-101-how-to-deep-fry-at-home

[Anonymous No.18799172]

>>18795886
fpbp

[Anonymous No.18799236]

anyone have pic related? can it really do air fryer plus all the regular instant pot functions? if so, this seems like a pretty good deal to potentially replace my slow cooker and rice cooker while having an air fryer

[Anonymous No.18799252]

>>18795886
It depends on how many you're cooking for.

[Anonymous No.18799262]

>>18799236
Yes it is cool

[Anonymous No.18799667]

>>18799236
Be warned the basket for the InstantPot airfryer is tiny, as in a slice of bread takes up 90% of the area tiny, or like 1 1/2 potatoes cut into wedges. I got one for Christmas and already stopped using it because airfrying in batches isn't worth it

[Anonymous No.18799684]

how do people live without an electric kettle

[Anonymous No.18799692]

I can recommend a pressure cooker if you boil beans/chickpeas and such, will save you a lifetime

[Anonymous No.18799721]

I have a gas grill, aeropress, convection oven, an electric stovetop, an induction cooktop, a standmixer, and a food processor. I'm considering getting a toaster but I don't make toast that often and I actually think I prefer toast that's fried with butter on a pan over regular toast.

[Anonymous No.18799742]

Air fryers cost less to run and if you live alone or have a spouse they are a convenient investment. Got guests coming round? switch to oven simple dimple.

[Anonymous No.18799754]

>>18796923
Shut the fuck up, you fucking pedantic retard.

No one cares.

[Anonymous No.18799763]

How do I get grime off of electric appliances? I can't "wash" them so what do I do?

[Anonymous No.18799768]

>>18799145
I have a dutch oven and an outdoor frying set up, but the wok sounds nice. It's more about being able to turn it on and not wait for the oil to heat up. But I guess I'd rather have a wok than an electric deep fryer, so I'll start there.

[Anonymous No.18799994]

>>18799763

[Anonymous No.18800029]

>>18796593
A proper pizza oven is pretty nice senpai.

[Anonymous No.18800265]

>>18799236
do any of these gimmick pots have a regular deep frying setting?

[Anonymous No.18800409]

>>18797053
So what's the recipe for the ultimate rice?

[Anonymous No.18800433]

Rate me
>anova precision oven
>anova precision cooker
>vacuum sealer
>tormek t7
>blendtec (gift, id rather have a vitamix but it does blend smoother than the vitamix)
>cuisinart ez clean deep fryer
>ice cream maker (one that doesn't require bowl freeze)
>ooni fyra
>outdoor wok burner
>shitty electric smoker
>thermoworks smoke
>ir temp gun
>kitchen aid stand mixer
>zojirushi fuzzy logic
>fellow corvo electric kettle

[Anonymous No.18800446]

>>18800409
It depends on what kind of rice you're cooking. To begin you should use the best tasting water and very fresh, high quality rice.

[Anonymous No.18800679]

>>18800433
if you use these it’s goals imo. I see you have the anova oven and sous vide, do you find the oven does sous vide just as well as the dedicated device?

[Anonymous No.18800683]

>>18800265
I couldn’t find one, that’s what I’m looking for now basically though. Would way rather a pressure cooker + deep fryer than pc + air fryer since I already have a mini oven with convection planned

[Anonymous No.18800746]

>>18796603
I’m the up n comer that’s been talking to you. I buy Kirkland brand green tea, heat water to 175-180, dump into my favorite cup and steep. idk about other methods but how much better is yours and what’s the gear list for it? you mentioned a kettle and some weird thing starting with a g, i think. I’m trying to switch to having a couple espresso shots in the morning but tea throughout the day, normally I just drink coffee all day and it fucks me up but I like drinking a hot beverage all day this time of year. So a milder caffeine dose and less acidic/bitter beverage seems perfect and I love green tea flavor personally

[Anonymous No.18800749]

>>18800746
they are tea bags btw not any fancy stuff. Just like Lipton single serve tea bags. All I’ve ever done.

[Anonymous No.18800778]

>>18796603
about the coffee thing btw, prior I was drinking like a gallon a day, but i noticed it was giving me jitters and ruining my focus. I now limit it to 0.25-0.5 gallons a day, but I’d like to move to 2 espresso shots and unlimited tea, just seems like a better fit for me and more patrician.

[Anonymous No.18801220]

>>18795874
just buy a convection oven, it does a better job than an airfryer, makes rlly crisp toast and is great for baking breads and other things due to its extremely even heat.

[Anonymous No.18802033]

>>18796901

Do they still sell this flame dance model? I cant find it anywhere despite vividly remembering the marketing for it

[Anonymous No.18802078]

>>18802033
There's a new version of it.

https://www.zojirushi.co.jp/syohin/rice/ricecooker/nw-fa/

You have to go on the Japanese website.

[Anonymous No.18802179]

>>18799768
I bought one of these scratch and dent from niggazon a few years ago for $41. It's marketed as a turkey fryer though I have never fried a turkey in it. Holds nearly 3 gallons of oil. The major issue with 95% of consumer level deep fryers is they hold a minuscule amount of oil that cannot hold any thermal mass when you toss something in. If your oil drops temp to hard that's how your food gets oily and nasty. With nearly 3 gallons of oil you can deep fry all you want and it comes out like a restaurant would. The only downside is it takes a bit to preheat. I keep mine outside on the patio so my house doesn't get that deep fryer stinky oil smell that never comes out.

[Anonymous No.18802276]

>>18802078

Thanks, THIS is the marketing I remember

[Anonymous No.18802283]

>>18795874
the only two appliances (except the oven and stove of course) are electric kettle and digital scale

[Anonymous No.18802297]

>>18796111
The pasta roller and the meat grinder are two reasons I've wanted to get one. I've started regularly doing pasta, which is pretty straightforward but I'm tired of rolling it out and cutting it. The sausage extruder I just want to try because I bought a cow and now have 300 lbs of meat and about 40 lbs of suet. So, now is the time to fulfill my german ancestry.
Also, a lot of baking. I try to wait a long time before buying an appliance so I'm relatively sure it's one I will get regular usage out of.

>>18796921
Thank you. I wanted the pro model as I want the one that is most akin to a hunk of metal with an engine you can attach stuff to.

[Anonymous No.18802365]

>>18796035
I bought one on ebay for only like 200 euros but it was a broken 1970s model so I restored it, they're great things and can make really good espresso but it's very dependent on how hard you pull the lever and how well you tamp your coffee also agree with the other anon, the small portafilter is annoying and so is the loose basket.

>>18796068
>>18796083
Unfathomably based, beautiful stuff anon

[Anonymous No.18802377]

>>18797226
Is it a true double pan or just two baskets in one larger pan? Double pan is great for keeping your fries and breaded snacks separate so your fries frying oil will keep longer. They're often a bit underpowered though so don't put in too much at once and prepare for a longer warm up time.

Double basket single pot is useless, don't buy
>t. Dutch avid home fryer

[Anonymous No.18802381]

>>18802365
Shit forgot pic, not that it's the most beautiful thing ever

[Anonymous No.18802646]

Also, looking for a recommendation. I have an electric range, which is very bad at temperature control. On high I've seen my pan reach temperatures of 700. At medium, it's still like 500 hundred, and at low it's basically off. I think it's sort of busted honestly and needs to be replaced, I've experimented with a thermometer on it quite a bit, and I can't seem to get it to function reasonably.
Long term, I want to replace it with a gas range, but in the interim I'm looking for an electric skillet or a little single pad induction cooktop. Something where I can have relatively good temperature control that isn't expensive to hold me over until I can buy a more major appliance.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.18803328]

>>18800679
Sorry for late reply. The regular circulator had become redundant with the oven. That oven is the best purchase I ever made. I forgot to say but I also have a altas Mercado pasta roller too.

[Anonymous No.18803356]

>>18802365
>>18802381
would you recommend it over other manual machines?

[Anonymous No.18803433]

>>18795997
Seethe incel

[Anonymous No.18803443]

>>18795981
>The 100v Japanese standard works fine in north america.
How many appliances have you tested to make this assertion?
I for one have a kotatsu heating element that I run straight off of 120V, which can be up to 130V and be in spec, and luckily it hasn't exploded yet, but since 130V is 1.3*1.3 up to 69% more power I never run it at full blast. The plug is ungrounded too, which way be why my outlets have this small humming when the plugs are a bit loose.

[Anonymous No.18803444]

>>18795874
Here in Bongland a toaster and an electric kettle are probably the first two things that anybody moving into their own place for the first time would get. I'm 51 and have never been in the house of someone who doesn't own those two items.

[Anonymous No.18803454]

>>18803443
Only the rice cooker. I have gotten a random incorrect voltage error once. Only once and that means it's protected. I figure it's fine because it's induction and not radiative heating.

I think it is a discretionary thing as to whether or not you should get an inverter for your jap appliances to run them on 120v.

[Anonymous No.18803488]

>>18803454
Hmm, a rice cooker seems low power but I'm not sure about the pressure cooking part of it if you have a combined unit. Some instapots can be as much as a microwave, 1200W.
I didn't look that hard but for my purposes, I have a 600W heating element and most step down transformer units are rated for 500w and are at least 50$, next level up being like 3-4x that for 1500W.

[Anonymous No.18803753]

>>18795951
>How is an air fryer different than a convection oven
it is just a (generally) small convection oven.

[Anonymous No.18803947]

>>18802179
can you leave oil in it? the only thing keeping me from killing myself by eating nothing but fried food is how inconvenient it is to empty the oil out of a regular pot and somehow get it back into a bottle or something.

[Anonymous No.18803960]

48hr short rib in bbq sauce stock at 145. In the anova oven. Spoon tender, super flavorful. Delicious. 24hrs probably would have been good enough honestly.

[Anonymous No.18803990]

>>18803947
Yeah of course. I empty it only when it's time to change the oil.

[Anonymous No.18804071]

>>18799236
I got one of these for christmas. >>18799667 is right the basket is tiny for air frying. First thing I made was tenders and fries, almost had to do two batches for a single plate. Things were kinda on top of each other but at least they didn't come out soggy.
This weekend I'm trying pressure cooking a whole chicken then air frying it for crisp, maybe i can skip using the basket for that.

[Anonymous No.18804303]

>>18803947
The t-fal model automatically drains and filters the oil.

[Anonymous No.18805175]

>>18796035
It's only worth it if you're used to making espresso and you know what to do with the machine. I wouldn't know how to work this thing so I'd buy a more automatic one instead.

[Anonymous No.18805177]

>>18796451
>waffle iron
>food processor
>standard toaster
>deep fryer

You're a fucking idiot who's either so autistic that you try using the fucking oven to make toast, or you're taking the minimalism too far in order to troll the thread.

[Anonymous No.18805183]

>>18796451
WAIT... you say a toaster or deep fryer is unnecessary and you recommend A FUCKING MICROWAVE? Holy shit, you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.18805199]

>>18795874
>My gf wants a toaster and an air fryer / toaster oven. I think those are stupid

Air fryers are pretty limited, but work well for their purpose.
What I would suggest is to buy THIS instead.

Its called a Ninja Foodie.
Its an air fryer / electric grill with cast iron grates / convection oven.
It will do everything you want out of an air fryer plug give you the ability to make other stuff too.

It kicks the shit out of every bog standard "air fryer", its really fast and comes in really handy.
I was given one as a gift and it made me throw my cheap air fryer in the trash.

[Anonymous No.18805383]

>>18805199
Yeah this thing is legit it's what I have. It's especially a deal for $159 which it frequently goes on sale for. Anyone that calls airfryers gimmicks or worthless hasn't seen or used this yet. I thought they were too with those worthless plastic drawers that can fit like 4 chicken nuggets in it. THIS thing can cook just about anything.

[Anonymous No.18805435]

>>18795874
An air fryer is okay, but if you have an oven that heats up quickly and has good airflow then you can just use a wire basket instead.

I'm a rentoid with a small shitty oven, so it's convenient to have multiple dishes cooking, or to crispen food without waiting for the oven to heat up.

[Anonymous No.18806709]

>>18795874
I recently got the ninja airfyer with 2 separate cooking bays and enojy it greatly. The speed alone makes it far superior to any convection oven. Also, no need to preheat and the seperate bays allow you to time food that take different time/temps to be finished at the same time. Don't listen to the "durr it's just a convection oven" idiots.

[Anonymous No.18808325]

bump

[Anonymous No.18809341]

>>18796923
>water oven
now you are the retard
it's clearly steam oven or a combi oven

[Anonymous No.18809344]

>>18796814
clean your APO anon

[Anonymous No.18809356]

nth for Anova precision oven being the best value kitchen gadget money can be

You can actually steam perfect rice in it too,
1 kilo rice 1 kilo water 20 minutes full steam @100c

[Anonymous No.18810063]

>>18795977
>>18795999
>>18796022
The nice lady at America's Test Kitchen did not have nice things to say about the Anova. Sad, because I was interested in the breads/cakes it can do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnjvzB0OZsc

[Anonymous No.18810123]

>>18810063
Her review of the anova is weird, stupid at times, and doesn't really match up with my experience using it, although I will say some of her criticisms are valid.

I will say the breadmaking has one caveat with the anova, which is that it doesn't go up to 500 degrees, so you need to experiment with your recipes a bit.

[Anonymous No.18810183]

>>18795874
Probably have more than I need but I have a
>rice cooker
>deep fryer
>bread machine
>blender (probably should get rid of this for a proper food processor)
>citrus juicer (I make lots of lemonade, don't need it but saves so much time)
>electric kettle
>Meat slicer (this one I never use but I bought it during COVID so I can make kbbq at home)

I'm doing more baking so I'm thinking of investing in a kitchen aid but

[Anonymous No.18810189]

>>18795874
A breville roster over is great. Use mine all the time.

[Anonymous No.18811288]

>>18796616
The faster air flow or something must make a difference because I've never had convection oven food get as crisp as air fryer food.

[Anonymous No.18811338]

>>18796022
>what do i need to make steam dumplings?
a tall enough pot and a normal metal strainer, just put wax paper under each dumpling. Bamboo thing is unneeded.

[Anonymous No.18811362]

>>18796351
>ninja foodi that does the air fry and pressure cook with one lid
how easily does this thing clean? For me, the air fryer is about convenience and the normal pull out basket seems much easier and quicker to clean than a whole big pressure cooker. But it would be nice to save space

[Anonymous No.18811375]

>>18811362
The basket is sort of annoying to clean, and you usually need to wipe out crumbs, or oil from the pot. If you have a dishwasher it's trivial to clean.

[Anonymous No.18811416]

>>18810063
she's a fat bitch with no clue
her food looks like shit and she obviously doesn't know how to use the oven

[Anonymous No.18811422]

>>18809356
Can you elaborate on your bread baking technique in the oven? It looks really nice.

[Anonymous No.18811510]

>>18802646
IIRC the thermal regulation (at least on mine) is done using a bimetallic strip (or something similar) in the control knob itself. I have one that's busted on mine and its goes full on for an unreasonable amount of time on any setting before turning off.

When I looked into troubleshooting / replacement it seemed like parts were ~$50 with some trivial disassembly. I ultimately decided against it since its my landlords problem and I'm moving soon anyways so I just don't use that burner.

Long story short, maybe just try to replace one in the interim and see if the problem gets better

[Anonymous No.18811522]

>>18811422
Pizza stone preheated for minimum 1 hour before use at 230,
Flipped the banneton out onto a peel but it was stubborn so I decided to use baking paper to help me get it in

Bake for ~15 mins at this temperature with 70% humidity, turning the steam off once the crust has set and begun to brown.
Turn the temp down to 180 until it is done (usually a further 20-25 minutes).

Times will vary based on the size and shape of the loaf but it's pretty bulletproof if you can stomach checking on it every so often. I would always suggest making enough for at least 3 or 4 loaves, so you can play around and get a feel for it

For convenience's sake, you can also use the temp probe (although this is heretical) to tell you when the bread has finished cooking

[Anonymous No.18811532]

>>18797226
Most say they don't work with solid fat. I'd just use a pot if I have to melt the fat separately to start anyway. Something like the Breville control freak would be ideal instead.
I just don't deep fry that often instead. I don't miss it.

[Anonymous No.18811642]

>>18811522
Ty, saved.

Looks like you got the first good picture of big foot.

[Anonymous No.18811660]

>>18811522
that's a lot of work for a loaf of burnt bread.
I make no boil bagels. 14 minutes at 450f rotate at 7 minute mark, then let cool covered in two tea towels so there is no crust. When they've cooled a little, I bag them and freeze them. I leave one in fridge overnight to thaw if I wanna eat one.
I slice the bagels vertically, so that I make many small pieces of toast. I use these pieces of toast like crackers for chili.

[Anonymous No.18811689]

>>18811660
the burn is flavor

[Anonymous No.18811696]

>>18811642
should add that if you want light coloured crusts, you will need to tent with foil to shield it from heat. Personally I like the darker crusts.

[Anonymous No.18811698]

>>18795886
t. cooklet

[Anonymous No.18811700]

>>18811660
He doesn't know about the mallard's reaction.

[Anonymous No.18811784]

>>18811700
frankly im a bit surprised