Whisk(e)y General

[Anonymous No.18689420]

Holiday edition.

Monkey Shoulder makes a damn good Irish coffee with creme brulee notes.

[Anonymous No.18689955]

What are some top 5 entry level bourbons under $30?
Prices vary from state to state but meaningfully less than maker's mark is a good metric. Current nominees are WT 101, Old Forester 100 and Four Roses. There's also an alt for shit that is at least straight bourbon and somewhat pleasant, Fighting Cock is in that list.

[Anonymous No.18689990]

>>18689955
Buffalo trace is a noice bottle. Evan williams single barrel? Eagle rare is tasty and only like 35 doll hairs.

[Anonymous No.18690595]

>>18689955
You need to provide more information than that. Here no bourbon can be had for $30.

>>18689420
Not worth sipping on though. You may be better off with a spiced rum actually containing vanilla.

[Anonymous No.18690723]

>>18689420
>Irish coffee
>posts Scotch

[Anonymous No.18690743]

>>18689955
Old Grand-Dad 114, obviously.

[Anonymous No.18690765]

>>18689420
whiskey is from Scotland.
whisky is from everywhere else.
like how Caviare is from the Caspian sea and caviar is from everywhere else. champagne must be made from grapes grown in the Champagne, France. legal destinations for products.

[Anonymous No.18690787]

>>18689420
A couple Christmases ago I got to try a sip of the famous Rip Van Winkle. It hits like a damn freight train and it's just so harsh. Maybe it was aged for way too long and the devil took more than his fair share, but if you get to try something of similar vintage I highly recommend a splash of water.

[Anonymous No.18690802]

I liked Evan Williams straight Kentucky. What should I try next?

[Anonymous No.18690861]

>>18690787
Isnt Rip Van Winkle one of the most sought after bottles?

[Anonymous No.18690865]

>>18690802
knob creek 9 years

[Anonymous No.18690883]

>>18690861
Yeah. My uncle tried to buy the bottle from a hotel that just happened to have one, but they refused to sell the full bottle for some srupid reason. He had to buy a single shot THEN they let him buy the opened bittle for a ludicrous amount.

[Anonymous No.18690891]

>Irish whiskey
Is this just soulless scotch?

[Anonymous No.18691162]

>wheated bourbon

[Anonymous No.18691766]

>>18690765
Scotch is from Scotland. Whisky usually denotes scotch styles but you also have Maker's Mark bourbon and the entire US legal code on alcohol which spells it whisky. Whiskey is an Irish spelling that became more common in the US with the migration, but if you read old letters, people use both interchangeably because spelling wasn't formalized until well after Webster's dictionary came out.

>>18690891
It started using unmalted barley because fuck English taxes and US Prohibition nearly killed the industry of over a thousand distilleries which ushered in the use of column stills. Pot stilled Irish is really good, though not usually as complex or funky as scotch, and shares a lot with American styles that aren't bourbon.

[Anonymous No.18691771]

>>18690883
Bars in most states can't sell unopened bottles. Whiskey is a legal quagmire and one of the most highly controlled substances there is.

[Anonymous No.18691776]

>>18690765
alcoholic retard

[Anonymous No.18692204]

>>18689955
WT 101
Four Roses Small Batch
Old Grand Dad Bottled in Bond
Elijah Craig Small Batch
Buffalo Trace

[Anonymous No.18692732]

Does anyone here get a clogged nose after drinking? Any remedies? I spend half a day drinking and half a day blowing snot out of my nose

[Anonymous No.18692929]

>>18692732
your sinus is probably just sensitive

[Anonymous No.18693004]

>>18690883
lol wow.

[Anonymous No.18693062]

>>18689420

you pretty much need to mix Monkey Shoulder with something to make it drinkable. I drink some pretty cheap shit but this stuff is a really rough go if you drink it neat

[Anonymous No.18693493]

best irish whisky?

[Anonymous No.18693706]

>>18689955

[Anonymous No.18693726]

im drinking christian brothers brandy
i know i know ,i need to get my shit together

[Anonymous No.18693750]

Why does whiskey taste so different from distillery to distillery?

Even with the same mashbills, the same amount of peat, the same time spent in oak, the same region where the barrels are stored, they still take on their own characteristics. Where does it come from?

[Anonymous No.18693755]

>>18693493
Redbreast 12 is good for the price, with Irish whiskey over 50 bucks I'd usually rather buy scotch

[Anonymous No.18693781]

Where did onion go?

[Anonymous No.18693783]

>>18693750
different strains of yeast

[Anonymous No.18693841]

>>18693750
>Even with the same mashbills, the same amount of peat, the same time spent in oak, the same region where the barrels are stored,
Can you actually guarantee any of that? Or that whatever cask they're using was good hooch? No. Still, the main difference is yeast, the cuts taken and how they are blended and distilled, the type of pot used and how it gets blended after aging. A mashbill doesn't amount to much on its own.

[Anonymous No.18694715]

This is my favorite scotch. Where do I go from here? The cask strength version? Then I'm done?

[Anonymous No.18694758]

>>18689955
Knob creek 9

[Anonymous No.18694802]

>>18694715
quarter cask all day baybeee, the get an oban 15

[Anonymous No.18694812]

>>18694802
I've had quarter cask, don't like it quite as much as the 10, although I agree it's very good.
I'll try to get my hands on Oban 15, thanks. I just love the most peaty, smokey, leathery flavors when it comes to scotch.

[Anonymous No.18694814]

>>18694812
Have you had Ardbeg 10 yet?

[Anonymous No.18694825]

>>18694812
hey, super fair! i haven't had the Lap 10 myself but i have to say the oban is unreal- a bit less for the peat but still a nice smoky profile and incredibly smooth.

too much $ to buy often tho.

[Anonymous No.18694828]

>>18694814
Yeah, I thought it was good but I prefer Laphroaig's very medicinal smokey flavor. I think that specific flavor profile appeals to me the most. I only hope there's something to graduate to. That burn rubber and iodine is so distinct, I love it.

[Anonymous No.18694876]

>>18694715
Ardbeg

[Anonymous No.18695188]

>>18694715
find an independent bottling at cask strength from the 60's/70's/80's

[Anonymous No.18695451]

>>18695188
>just spend $1000+
We don't all have trust funds bro

[Anonymous No.18695550]

I've discovered that drinking too early just wastes a lot of whisky and you go way past the good feeling before going to bed

[Anonymous No.18695652]

>>18693062
Blended malt is in this weird cocktail territory where it's not as clean drinking as blends but not refined enough like single malts. A lot of highly rated bourbons from bartender lists are in that category. Great for rocks/mixers/cocktails but boring or kinda bad neat. They usually have some overpowering flavor that mixes well.

[Anonymous No.18695757]

>>18695550
I find beginning 3-4 hours before bed works best for me. sleep is a bit rough, but I'm usually not that tired when waking up

[Anonymous No.18696083]

Is Wellers the best $30> whiskey? I can’t find anything that beats it. Hell I’d be willing to say anything under $70. Finding a bottle can be gay though.

[Anonymous No.18696128]

>>18696083
Its all personal preference and "best" starts to revert to the mean and mean "kinda boring" when you get into larger sample sizes and aren't running correlations. I like a number of local whiskeys under $30 that are bold and way off the beaten path but you probably can't get Kopper Kettle or KO.

[Anonymous No.18696146]

>>18689420
>get whiskey at a fancy dinner once
>tastes nice
>buy it for myself later
>tastes bad

Can any of you alcoholics explain? I don't drink a lot. Was it the food in combination, or did they give me a different range? I asked and they said it was Tullamore Dew, so I bought the regular one.

[Anonymous No.18696163]

>>18696146
>Tullamore Dew
It's...not the best. Set and setting go a long way in not noticing off flavors.

[Anonymous No.18696198]

>>18696163
I've only tried that and Talisker 10, which was like drinking spicy brine, I'm not a seasoned drinker.
I just remember it being much easier to drink at the dinner. Oh well, I spent the $40 so I guess I'm committed.

[Anonymous No.18696266]

>>18696198
Don't be afraid of mixers and cocktails. I'm wondering how you spent so much on Tullamore unless it was the 12 or a half gallon but it happens. It takes a massive frame of reference to find out what you like, look for tasting events are bars and festivals, they usually happen in the spring.

[Anonymous No.18696301]

>>18696266
It was a 700ml bottle, I would have bought a smaller one but it was all they had.
It's because live in Norway. 700ml of the 12 costs $72 :)))

[Anonymous No.18696318]

>>18696301
It's ~$27 in the US. Those prices are outrageous.

[Anonymous No.18696339]

>>18694715
eew

mermaid's period

[Anonymous No.18696341]

>>18696318
Government has a monopoly on alcohol. Anything higher than 4.7% ABV can only be bought in their licensed store. Not joking it's named the Wine Monopoly.
A lot of people buy their booze in Sweden. They have the same deal but it's much cheaper there.

[Anonymous No.18696364]

>>18696341
Come home, white man. Join us in the woods.

[Anonymous No.18696375]

>>18696364
People used to make moonshine back in the day, but I don't think it's much of a thing anymore.

[Anonymous No.18696394]

>>18696375
I guarantee that if corn and feed sales aren't closely monitored, it's still going on outside the cities. People keep real quiet about it for good reason.

[Anonymous No.18696586]

>>18690765
>it's only whiskey if it comes from the whiskey region of Scotland. Otherwise it's just whisky

[Anonymous No.18696814]

>>18695550
I feel the opposite, I like to drink as early in the day as possible and drink enough to constantly stay buzzed until I'm about to go to bed.

[Anonymous No.18697041]

is wild turkey 81 that bad just got some?

[Anonymous No.18697192]

>>18689420
I just bought a bottle of Monkey Shoulder because there was a whiskey glass offered with it. I assumed it was low quality shit, was I wrong?

[Anonymous No.18697307]

>>18697192
it's ok, personally I find it tasting too much like your grandparents attic

[Anonymous No.18697316]

>>18697307
Cool that's where I had my first sexual experience

[Anonymous No.18697317]

>>18697192
It's funky and a little rough. Not a bad sip but it's a supreme mixer. Somewhere in there are good whiskies and they pop out from time to time.

[Anonymous No.18697350]

>>18697316
great tasting note to bring up at a whiskey tasting

[Anonymous No.18697468]

I’m looking for sweet bourbons. The sweetest I’ve tasted is Buffalo Trace. Where should I go from here?

[Anonymous No.18697578]

>>18697468
makers mark is very sweet

[Anonymous No.18697811]

>>18689420
'ate whiskey
'ate cognac
'ate bourbon
luv rum
simple as.

[Anonymous No.18697832]

Drinking Knob Creek 9 years, its good, but nothing spectular

[Anonymous No.18697835]

>>18697316
with your grandparents?

[Anonymous No.18697841]

>>18696146
its the setting, when eat and drink, u dunt taste the drink as much.

[Anonymous No.18697985]

>>18690765
No e in scotch whisky.
No consistency everywhere else, it is not a protected term.
>Legal destinations for products
You'll find many are not protected, and many that you think are are actually only protected by trade agreement. And you'll commonly see legal loop holes.
Japanese whisky doesn't have to be Japanese. Bourbon doesn't have to be American or corn or any of that shit if it's intended for export.
I have consumed Australian champagne, bourbon, port, sherry, parmesan, cheddar etc.

[Anonymous No.18697999]

>>18693750
Different stills.
Different cuts.
Barrel char level.
Barrel variation and barrel blending (some distilleries will save all the better barrels for more expensive bottles for example, or some will have less barrels so have a less uniform product ).
Yeast strain.
Chill filtration, colour, dilution.
Blending with older whisky.
Barrel finishes.
Secret disregard of certain rules, especially when it comes to the lattermost.

[Anonymous No.18698032]

>>18694715
You try all of the other similar scotches. Including independent bottlings. Then you choose the best value among those. Then it gets discontinued and you start again (or it doesn't).
I'd probably go for the cask strength Smokehead (Caol Ila) over that. Or maybe the 6 isles (mostly Ledaig, cheap) or Compass Box Peat Monster (Mostly Caol Ila, a little cheaper than Laphroaig).

Or you can broaden your horizons a little and go for non Isla peat (like Glenfiddich, Loch Lomond, Benromach, Benriach, Tomintoul, Connemara, etc).
Or go for sherried peat like Longrow Red (or of course indie bottlings of any of your favourite Islays).

Of course have you tried QC or Lore? sherry? cairdeas? 3 oak? etc.

[Anonymous No.18698341]

>>18697192
I want to know what the consensus is too. I first tried it on the reccomendation of this nice Scottish lady in my liquor store after we chatted about introductory scotches and i thought it was pretty solid

[Anonymous No.18698373]

>>18689420
Monkey Shoulder is meme garbage that tastes like rubbing alcohol and lawn clippings with a hint of banana
Also scotch whisky is Scottish not Irish

[Anonymous No.18698391]

>>18697041
>is wild turkey 81 that bad just got some
why dunt u post ur review here?

[Anonymous No.18698404]

>>18697999
There's only so many combinations though. Something else is happening.

[Anonymous No.18698409]

>>18698373
>Also scotch whisky is Scottish not Irish
Are you sure?

[Anonymous No.18698414]

>>18689955
Wild Turkey 101 for evil dark drunk
Knob Creek 9 for a rich flavorful buzz
Makers Mark for beginners to bourbon that want a light and smooth drink that doesn't burn
Evan williams for when you're broke
And Bulleit rye because its better then Bulleit bourbon but both are very underrated

honorable mention to eagle rare

[Anonymous No.18698422]

>>18698414
>Makers Mark for beginners to bourbon that want a light and smooth drink that doesn't burn
heard its sweet, so no thank you

[Anonymous No.18698425]

>>18690765
This but the complete opposite

[Anonymous No.18698440]

>>18696814
based alky, i find i get better fuel efficiency if i stay drunk whereas if i sober up i need much more to get back in the zone

[Anonymous No.18698448]

>>18697041
yes its shit compared to 101 same for knob creek 80 proof compared to the 100 proof, for some reason bourbon needs to be at least 100 to 120 proof to taste right

[Anonymous No.18698451]

for me, it's knob creek

[Anonymous No.18698452]

>>18697811
i was the same way but then i turned 16yo and grew the fuck up and started drinking rye

[Anonymous No.18698457]

>>18698452
knob creek has a good rye

[Anonymous No.18698477]

>>18696146
food play a big part in how alcohol tastes, when you become a alky you can play around with different pairings like taste some chocolate then have a drink then then next day try something spicy before drinking

[Anonymous No.18698479]

It's another one of those nights, lads

[Anonymous No.18698483]

>>18697468
Michter's is by far the sweetest bourbon I've tried

[Anonymous No.18698485]

>>18698422
no not really, i'd say WT 101 is sweeter but the bold flavor and burning kinda hide it
Makers is the Crown Royal of bourbon light and smooth almost watery

[Anonymous No.18698496]

>>18698414
> Bulleit rye because its better then Bulleit bourbon but both are very underrated
Bulleit rye is interesting because it's actually like 95% rye, unlike every other rye I seem to come across that's practically just a high-rye bourbon. What other rye whiskeys are all or nearly all rye in the mashbill?

[Anonymous No.18698500]

>>18698457
i tried it but wasn't impressed compared to their bourbon
for top notch rye go with bulleit rye, for top notch bourbon go knob creek 100 or 120 if you're feeling pompous (same thing as Bookers but half the price though you're not getting the choice barrels)

[Anonymous No.18698509]

>>18698496
that a good question, i haven't tried to many different rye's but rittenhouse was good but noticeably harsher and only 51% rye

[Anonymous No.18698580]

Rye tastes like pickles

[Anonymous No.18698584]

>>18689420
Why is irish wisky so good?
It mogs everything else

[Anonymous No.18698593]

>>18698414
>that want a light and smooth drink that doesn't burn
So, faggots.

[Anonymous No.18698600]

>>18698584
It's the most basic tasting one. Not bad, but not interesting enough to pique my interest. I haven't gone more luxurious than Redbreast 12 though

[Anonymous No.18698619]

>>18698600
Redbreast Lustau Edition is something else. Not basic tasting. Quite rich and flavorful.

[Anonymous No.18698684]

>>18698593
mostly but but also if your gf only buys vodka and you're sick of it and want to wean her onto whiskey with something thats not like trying to drink a flame thrower like WT101, Makers is a good choice

[Anonymous No.18698691]

>>18698584
pot stills, they stuck with them to spite the Scottish
column still are far more efficient which is why everybody switched to them but they don't let as much flavor through

[Anonymous No.18698716]

>>18698580
it shouldn't

[Anonymous No.18698719]

>>18698684
how old r u ? girls that drink after a certain age are gross

[Anonymous No.18698841]

i bought a whiskey for the first time in like 2 years, not good

[Anonymous No.18698852]

>>18698719
with women sex drive and drinking only increase with age this is scientific fact

[Anonymous No.18699697]

>>18698483
I’ve tried Maker’s Mark before, so I’ll try Michters if I see it. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.18700327]

>>18696146
Was the food, I had a Jack Daniels with a steak and it tasted like the fucking greatest thing ever.

[Anonymous No.18700952]

>>18698684
Turk is pretty mild compared to some more expensive shit when you do blind tastings. Fighting Cock is what has the kick.

[Anonymous No.18701065]

>>18696146
Eating food right before you take a sip of whiskey has an absolutely MASSIVE effect on the perceived flavor of the whiskey. It can COMPLETELY transform it.
Some foods make some whiskies much better and some foods make some whiskies much worse.
Dark chocolate is a pretty reliably good pairing for any whiskey.
You definitely do not want to drink whiskey after brushing your teeth or rinsing your mouth with something minty.

[Anonymous No.18702243]

>turns you into a raging alcoholic
heh nothing personal

[Anonymous No.18702295]

I miss /alch/ so badly bros

[Anonymous No.18702480]

>>18701065
>You definitely do not want to drink whiskey after brushing your teeth or rinsing your mouth with something minty.
The Kentucky Derby says, "Hi."

[Anonymous No.18702680]

so when i finally start drinking this bonk keerc and i turn up here and start drunk posting are you people gonna be cool or are you too good to put up with that

[Anonymous No.18702857]

>>18698496
Masterson's. Straight rye.

[Anonymous No.18703271]

I don't recognize "flavor notes" in my whiskey. I just know if it tastes good or bad.

[Anonymous No.18703703]

>>18703271
how much sugar do you have every day?

[Anonymous No.18703756]

>>18689955
For me ? TX wiskey it is a bplend though

[Anonymous No.18704674]

Pleb here, what am I in for?

[Anonymous No.18704696]

>>18698414
>honorable mention to eagle rare
Not under $30

[Anonymous No.18705033]

I'm not sure what's worse. Taters trying to jew Armagnac prices or thinking that Armagnac drinkers want anything to do with needleniggers.

[Anonymous No.18705347]

>>18704674
You're in for exactly what you deserve. Enjoy it, my friend.

[Anonymous No.18705779]

>>18702243
Never understood the popularity of this here. It’s a decent price I guess, but a boring and flat tasting whiskey. Bulleit is about the same price and is much better I’d say.

[Anonymous No.18705913]

>>18692732
yes don’t drink as much, your body is begging you to understand something.

[Anonymous No.18705953]

>>18705913
nta but it happens to me on my first drink. usually just hit the head and blow it out and i'm good for the rest of the night.

[Anonymous No.18705981]

Scotch recommendation for someone that loved Glenfiddich 12 as their first intro? They hate peat.

Thinking Glenmorangie 10 or Balvenie 12

[Anonymous No.18706026]

>>18705981
Both good, most speysides fit that bill. Glenfarclas if you want to sneak in some peat.

[Anonymous No.18706028]

Looking to get my Dad a whiskey for christmas. He talks highly of Yellow Spot but I don't think I can find it in the store. Looking to spend no more than $150, does anyone have any recs? I don't really know much about his palette, he likes stuff like Jameson and JW Black. Something I can find in a typical liquor store would be great, thanks anons.

[Anonymous No.18706101]

>>18705779
It's 2 shelves down from bulleit, usually a 30% price difference. ~$25 vs ~35 depending on regional monopoly. It nails a lot of quintessential bourbon flavors and doesn't skimp on the proof. Not the best but the personal favorite of many along with Old Forester 100 and a few other old names with low prices offering higher proof than the legal minimum.

>>18706028
Red Breast 12 or 16, Mularkey if you can find it in your areas--they do a black barrel irish style that's really good, Green Spot, one of the newer ones like the Irishman. You may have to hit up a few good stores in nicer areas, irish availability is shit, especially when you get into single pot or the newer brands and the old ones that have been revived.

Or take a chance on something local with either an age statement or some assurance that it's old enough to be worth the price and was actually made by the distillery in question. There's good stuff out there that no one knows or cares about because it doesn't say buffalo trace on the bottle and gets you no clout among redditors. Also a lot of shit, but that's why the mixer was invented in 1920.

If you live in a state monopoly, the website may have a good inventory system and save you some trips and phone calls.

[Anonymous No.18706385]

>>18706101
Must just be a regional thing for me then, Bulleit and wt101 hover around 30 where I shop. And I’ll admit my taste is probably shit.

[Anonymous No.18706456]

>>18706385
Don't get me wrong, I don't like it very much but it wins a lot of blind tastings and isn't swill. If there is sipping whiskey, there is also drinking whiskey and you don't want too much going on when you're not really going to taste it after the fifth or seventh glass.

[Anonymous No.18706476]

>>18698451
>>18698414
>>18694758
very based knob creek enjoyers

[Anonymous No.18706502]

>>18696341
>Anything higher than 4.7% ABV can only be bought in their licensed store.
The limit is 2.25% here. You guys are lucky

[Anonymous No.18706524]

>>18706502
Damn, that barely qualifies as small beer. Where?

[Anonymous No.18706625]

>>18706476
Knob creek has never let me down. Don’t buy it often for some reason though.

[Anonymous No.18706706]

contribootin

[Anonymous No.18706743]

>>18706706
>start here
And never leave. I just love it bros.

[Anonymous No.18707034]

>>18706743
morangie is swill

[Anonymous No.18707036]

>>18706743
>I hate flavor

[Anonymous No.18707053]

Sticking with The Famous Grouse
Cheap and cheerful

[Anonymous No.18707082]

>>18707034
>>18707036
I like flavor, and it doesn’t seem like swill to me. It’s clear and clean with a honey taste that I enjoy. I drink other scotch like Oban and Ardberg and enjoy it, but for my go to I stick to I like something less peaty. To really twist the knife in your upturned noses, I always have a bottle of J&B, perfect for mixing with soda.

[Anonymous No.18707310]

>>18706706
How does Glendronach 12 compare to the 15?

[Anonymous No.18707318]

>>18707310
I actually liked my bottle of the 12 better than my bottle of the 15, which was a bit sulfury, but I might have just got a bad bottle of the 15 that had sherry casks sterilized with sulfur candles involved.
In any case the 12 is quite flavorful with all the flavors you'd expect from decent sherry casks.

[Anonymous No.18707329]

>>18689420
Tin Cup aint half bad
>>18690891
All taigs are soulless

[Anonymous No.18707352]

>>18705779
It was John Wayne's daily drinker, and if it's good enough for the Duke, it's good enough for me.

[Anonymous No.18707365]

>>18706706
Cigars taste like shit to me but I love islay scotch

[Anonymous No.18707835]

>>18694715

[Anonymous No.18707843]

>>18704674
shit like you deserve

[Anonymous No.18708117]

Help a retard out, I've been planning to buy my bf a nice bottle of scotch for his birthday but I know next to nothing about whisky. I know he really likes the 10yo Ardbeg (so the more smoke, the better), and I came across picrel recently. Can anyone tell me if this will be a good choice? Also, I'm broke as hell so any cheaper alternatives are welcome.

[Anonymous No.18708165]

>>18689955
Evan Williams bottled in bond is my gold standard for cheap bourbon.
>>18703756
TX is HORRIBLE. If you want to show pride in your home state when drinking you should drink Rebecca Creek instead.

[Anonymous No.18708181]

>>18698483
Michter's ten year is obscenely good, probably best bourbon I've had.

[Anonymous No.18708274]

>>18708117
It's insanely popular but I prefer Ardbeg and Laphroaig. Old heads have said the quality on Lagavulin went down decades ago, I just wasn't impressed or feeling it. At least it tastes refined and expensive. Highland Park 12 is a good contrast to Islay with a different smoky character. I'd go with that one. Bruichladdich if you can find it, although the classic laddie is unpeated. Campeltown scotches are similar to Islay, it's right across the bay. There are a number of highland scotches with, comparatively, a hint of smoke that do interesting things. I remember Cragganmore tasting like it sounds, a dry and dusty attic with a fireplace burning in the floor below.

Most age statement scotches are good in some way, but some of the no age statement expressions are more interesting.

[Anonymous No.18708284]

>>18708117
Oh, if he likes Ardbeg, get the Uigheadal.

[Anonymous No.18708542]

>>18708284
this or Lagavulin 16

[Anonymous No.18708820]

>>18706028
sex ass sexy gurl boob ass yaa sexsexsex

[Anonymous No.18708829]

>>18689420
For me it's MacAllan 15 year Sherry Oak

[Anonymous No.18708941]

>>18708820
based

[Anonymous No.18709074]

I love drinking Fireball but when I order it everyone judges me

[Anonymous No.18709936]

>>18709074
as it should be

[Anonymous No.18709978]

>>18704696
Man I remember when it was 25 dollars
>Can't find it under 45 now

[Anonymous No.18709982]

Picked up a bottle of this on sale. Not bad for the price, strong oakiness. Not the best for drinking neat, but makes a nice old fashioned or Manhattan.

[Anonymous No.18709983]

>solves bourbon
$20 and good

[Anonymous No.18710043]

>>18709983
probably going to get one of these and an old EW Single Barrel to tide me over until the holiday shipment of scotch comes in a February.

>>18709982
Balcones is basically just cheap corn whiskey for hipsters with no palate. their only good release was a peated single malt matured in French oak.

[Anonymous No.18710103]

Sup anons. So for shits and giggles I decided I’m going to try something in the slightly more expensive range and am looking for recommendations. Budget is 200US. I generally prefer flavours on the stronger end of the spectrum (doesn’t matter if it’s fruity or peaty or whatever); so for example I’m quite fond of the Laphroaig 10. But I can appreciate something a little more laid back (just finished a bottle of the Glenfiddich 18 which I’m personally rating at about 85). Just picked up a Laphroaig 10 Sherry as well which I’m pretty excited to try. Recommendations appreciated; cheers anons!

[Anonymous No.18710105]

Picked up a bottle of Statesman. First time trying it .

[Anonymous No.18710115]

>>18710043
It's surprisingly good for evan williams. I tend to look up reviews after trying shit myself, and it seems like this one is good across the board.

>shipment

I've never ordered whiskey online. I didn't know you could do that, desu

[Anonymous No.18710155]

>>18694812
fantastic image

[Anonymous No.18710241]

I'd like a couple of old fashion glasses, but I don't want to get generic chinese ware from Amazon. Are the more expensive glasses from whiskey companies the same thing but with their packaging and price tag? Which glasses do you recommend?

[Anonymous No.18710293]

>>18710241
Bar ware from your local restaurant supply. There's usually a primo section for fancy bars where you pay 3 bucks instead of 2 for a glass.

[Anonymous No.18710338]

>>18710105
I will never buy another bottle of Statesman. Its not terrible but I give it a C

[Anonymous No.18710467]

Sipping on pic rel tonight. Got some bite to it but quite nice for a wheat bourbon. Solid 7/10

[Anonymous No.18710652]

After you open a bottle, how long before the flavor is fucked? A few months? A year?
I want to splurge on an expensive bottle but I don't want to have to rush to drink it all once I open it.

[Anonymous No.18710660]

>>18710103

[Anonymous No.18710752]

>>18710652
You're probably good if you finish it within a year after opening it.

[Anonymous No.18710768]

>>18708829
Based. Got the 12 year sherry out tonight but will pull the 15 around Xmas and New Years.

[Anonymous No.18710787]

>>18710115
it's not my order. last year all the shit that was supposed to be on shelfs for xmas didnt come in until end of January.

[Anonymous No.18710788]

shalom

[Anonymous No.18710806]

>>18710660
Why would you recommend a blend to someone who likes stronger flavours?

[Anonymous No.18710981]

>>18698496
This is a 95% rye I'm thinking of getting. Anyone had it?

[Anonymous No.18710993]

>>18698496
I think High West Double Rye is 95%. It's super vegetal forward which turns some people off but I like it.

[Anonymous No.18711010]

>>18710993
Love the complexity of that Double Rye on the front end and was also pleasantly surprised by the Campfire blend (I think it's a blend of bourbon and scotch). Excellent smoky flavor on at the end for the price point.

[Anonymous No.18711019]

>girl I know gives me scotch for christmas
>clearly likes me
>it's balvenie 12

She's cute but I had trouble hiding my disgust

[Anonymous No.18711024]

Cheers, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.18711035]

>>18706028
>stuff like Jameson and JW Black.
if he likes JW Black, then get him JW Black, lol, its not like u know any better

[Anonymous No.18711040]

>>18711024
whered you find that?

[Anonymous No.18711051]

>>18711040
My mother bought it for me when she and my father were on vacation in Italy over a decade ago, because she knew I liked Hitler. Based on what she told me, she exchanged an awkward smile with the clerk when she bought it.

[Anonymous No.18711058]

>>18711051
Very unique, now I have to try to find some.

[Anonymous No.18711081]

>>18711058
They still sell them in Italy, I believe. They also have wine, if I'm not mistaken. It's not specifically related to Hitler or our cheeky nazi frens, but is focused on various historical figures. I've got the bottle in my hand right now, and the back says "birra dalla storia", which I believe means something like "history beer" or "beer from history".
Just google it.

[Anonymous No.18712231]

I always post my holiday haul.
This year everybody thought I deserved rye whiskey.

[Anonymous No.18712245]

>>18712231
This is what I normally drink

[Anonymous No.18712369]

>>18710660
>>18710806
Yeah definitely not my cup of tea. Had a Hibiki offered to me by someone at a restaurant before and it was a pretty bad experience for me; can’t recall which label exactly it was but I didn’t enjoy it a single bit. I might just buy a Laphroaig 10 CS to expand on my Laphroaig collection, but I’m only able to find Batch 15 nearby and I heard 13/14 was better. So still taking in recommendations for anything else special with strong as fuck flavours on a 200US budget. I’ve got the Glendronach 18 and 21 in my sights as well if anyone has any opinions on these.

[Anonymous No.18712553]

>>18712369
The yamazaki is way better and the hakushu is...interesting. They're both pretty subtle and nuanced and not real flavor bombs. You might have to go for an American barrel proof malt whisky if you want drama.

[Anonymous No.18712649]

Brandy mogs

[Anonymous No.18712654]

>>18689420
>>18689955
I got this as a white elephant gift, should I try it out or regift it and get another brand?

[Anonymous No.18712663]

>mogged

[Anonymous No.18712680]

>>18712654
What do you normally drink?

[Anonymous No.18712691]

>>18712680
mainly a rum drinker, but i want to venture into bourbon, and scotch someday and broaden my pallette

[Anonymous No.18712702]

>>18712691
Drink it, I think it's good for it's price.

[Anonymous No.18712736]

[Anonymous No.18712858]

>>18712691
It's a good one, especially if you're coming from rum. Not too bourbon-y. I don't know if you're into agricole rums but some of the ryes have that same floral, vegetal flavor.

[Anonymous No.18713743]

>>18712736
yawn

[Anonymous No.18713844]

What was your first bottle of whiskey/bourbon? For me, It was old grandad bonded

[Anonymous No.18713913]

>>18713844
First bottle I received was Glenlivet 12.

[Anonymous No.18714005]

>>18713844
Jameson

[Anonymous No.18714088]

>>18712736
>Act 10 scene 4
What's this supposed to mean? A way of saying it's a blend of 4-10 year barrels?

[Anonymous No.18714406]

Belated birthday present I haven't had in quite a fuggen while. The get together was also nice. Full list of sampling forthcoming.

[Anonymous No.18714546]

>>18714406
It was a whiskey tasting for my coworker in the booze industry. It went pretty good considering he hadn't drank that shit before. I guess set and setting is everything.
>mount gay black barrel
>bacardi ocho
>evan williams black
>wild turkey 101
>VDC port cask finished
>four roses small batch
>belmont farms 10, barrel proof 116 reserve
>old forester 1920, 116 proof
>laphroaig 10
>lagavulin 16
>bosscal mezcal
>various other substances
He was black before he started, if that matters. I don't know what he is now.

[Anonymous No.18714757]

thoughts on $20 no age stated Kirkland Signature Blended Scotch?

[Anonymous No.18714792]

>>18714546
I don't know what this post means

[Anonymous No.18714834]

>>18698414
Litterly this.
Anon hit the mail on the head here.
I would like to add Woodinville rye is nice and you can find it on slaw for $35 pretty often.
I don't really know much alut rye but am a big bourbon fan and like this stuff.
It's 100% rye no wheat or other fillers. It you can find it get the barrel proof.

[Anonymous No.18714844]

>>18698496
>>18714834
See my post below.

[Anonymous No.18714938]

I need whiskey cocktail ideas, stat!
I’m tired of whipping up the same old fashioned or whiskey sour recipes every time I have guests over

[Anonymous No.18715078]

>>18713844
Lagavulin 16. I already knew I liked Islays because a friend let me try Laphroaig 10.

[Anonymous No.18715156]

>>18714938
Vodka is for mixing.
Whiskey is for enjoying neat. If you have to mix your whiskey, it sucks, and you shouldn't buy whiskey that sucks.

[Anonymous No.18715195]

My mom really likes this stuff but I just don't see the appeal.

[Anonymous No.18715208]

>>18715195
based mom

[Anonymous No.18715243]

>a-and... and it has notes of *SNIFFFFF* vanilla and it... it's a smooth, um, it has vanilla and there's cinnamon on the... on the p-palate
Shut the fuck up and just drink it and stop thinking so much

[Anonymous No.18715277]

>>18715243
how DARE people pay attention to what they're drinking

[Anonymous No.18715291]

>>18715277
Does paying attention have to be so faggy? Just go "yeah, that's good" and drink it. Every time I watch a whiskey review, it's
>a-and there's... and the cinnamon and it... the cinnamon puckers the-- mmmmWAH, with the vanilla and...
They make fucking whiskey of all things gay. They're making it gay, frankly.

[Anonymous No.18715298]

>>18715291
why is it faggy to notice individual flavours in something

what use is a review if people just say 'this whisky is good' or 'this whisky is bad'

[Anonymous No.18715305]

>>18715298
The flavor descriptions are always so pussy. When I drink whiskey, I can taste the oak and I can taste the alcohol. I don't need to hear some faggot rant about gumdrops and lavender.
>what use is a review if people just say 'this whisky is good' or 'this whisky is bad'
... Then you fucking know if the whisky is good or bad

[Anonymous No.18715313]

>>18715305
whisky tastes of more than oak and alcohol, if you paid more attention maybe you'd notice that

>... Then you fucking know if the whisky is good or bad
yeah because if one person reviews a whisky and thinks it's good, everyone will think it's good

[Anonymous No.18715343]

>>18715195
It's got a really nice balance of oak and smoke. It's a very good introduction to peat for newbies.
I do prefer Springbank 10 with regards to light/medium peat level Scotch, though.

[Anonymous No.18715348]

>>18715305
Reviews which describe flavors are quite useful to experienced whiskey drinkers who know what flavor profiles they like and what flavor profiles they don't like.
As >>18715298 said, "this whisky is good" is a completely fucking useless review for an experienced whiskey drinker who is searching for a specific flavor profile.

[Anonymous No.18715350]

>>18715313
I'll put it this way:
You've got two whiskey reviews. One is by a man with a furrowed brow who isn't bullshitting around and tells you straight-up "this is good." This is an honest man giving you no bullshit.
The other muses for 20 minutes about the vanilla and the
>and it.. and the candy finish on the palate... it's got milky and it's.... mmm, and it's got cinnamon and just a TEENSY pinch of ginger, and it... and this is my cat Richard and he likes his crunchies with just a SMIDGE of milky...
Who are you going to trust for a recommendation? Who are you listening to?

[Anonymous No.18715359]

>>18715350
For me, it's the healthy medium between the two extremes you described.

[Anonymous No.18715411]

>>18715343
IDK what it is, but it just goes down my throat really fucking harshly. Like vomit or something. I much prefers something like Bushmills.

[Anonymous No.18715415]

>>18715411
>Bushmills
40% ABV
>Port Charlotte
50% ABV

[Anonymous No.18715489]

>>18715415
That explains it, I didn't even realize.

[Anonymous No.18715500]

>>18715350
>One is by a man with a furrowed brow
cringeworthy

>This is an honest man giving you no bullshit.
yeah and no information either

>Who are you going to trust for a recommendation? Who are you listening to?
the second person you made up doesn't actually exist

[Anonymous No.18715504]

>>18715489
50% isn't even strong.
Man up.

[Anonymous No.18715729]

>>18711024
Where can I buy this?

[Anonymous No.18715746]

>>18712231
How is the whistlepig?
I've heard a lot of hipsters talk about it but never any actual whiskey drinkers.

[Anonymous No.18715766]

>>18714938
Check this stuff out.
>Cast and crew ginger whiskey

It's awesome! Neat over ice well I really like to make Moscow mules with this in place of vodka.
They have an orange flavor. That's pretty good also and goes well in an old fashioned.
Very reasonable price Also it's usually 30 to 35 a bottle but sometimes it goes on sale for 15-20.

[Anonymous No.18715827]

>>18715746
I've had it before, it's one highest rye content whiskeys I've ever had. If you are fan of rye you'll like it. If your availability is like me shop around, I never pay over retail for a bottle, even though it goes for more on the secondary market.

[Anonymous No.18716010]

>>18715291
Take the mmmmWAHpill anon

[Anonymous No.18716247]

>>18715827
Thanks anon.
My local Walmart just started carrying it.
But it's still like $45 a bottle.
One day I'll have to check it out.

[Anonymous No.18717140]

>>18690787
>>18690861
>>18690883
I had a serving of RVW 10yr yesterday. It was very sweet and heavy on the alcohol mouthfeel. Very nice but not a very remarkable bourbon. I'd rate Evan Williams 1783 higher and it's much cheaper.

[Anonymous No.18717148]

>>18694715
Try a 5yr from a peaty brand, can personally recommend 5yr Ardbeg very highly.

[Anonymous No.18717164]

>>18710768
Absolutely scotchpilled. Used to do the 10 year fine oak as the frequent sipper. Can't find that one here. So I keep the 15 on hand for both sippin' and special occasions. Can do glenfiddich once in a while too, but I find the nose and the finish on the macallan's scotches to be much finer.

[Anonymous No.18717169]

>>18714088
batch number, rickhouse section number

[Anonymous No.18718185]

its nice mixed with coke

[Anonymous No.18718256]

>>18689955
Old Grand Dad BiB

you already got the rest

[Anonymous No.18718302]

>>18708117
My wife got this for me when she was still my gf. Now she’s my wife lol
If you wanna keep him, get him this :)

[Anonymous No.18718325]

>>18718302
Too late…

[Anonymous No.18718506]

>>18718325
Breakup or bought an alternative? :p

[Anonymous No.18718818]

>>18689420
I don't really like the taste of beer. When I drink I usually go for Jameson. But I can't drink anyway since i'm on probation.

[Anonymous No.18718955]

>>18718506
The sad one

[Anonymous No.18719003]

>buy cheap but tasty bourbon
>buy the smokiest islay scotch you can afford
>pour a glass of bourbon
>drip in a few drops of scotch
>enjoy delicious smokey bourbon
Anyone else do this?

[Anonymous No.18719105]

>>18719003
I have not tried this but now I want to try this with Old Grand-Dad 114 and Laphroaig 10.

[Anonymous No.18719138]

>>18693493
Powers Gold Label is great for the price. For something a bit more exotic try Natterjack, if they've got it.

[Anonymous No.18719533]

I have the choice of the following whiskeys for a very good price from a local store as part of a promotion
>Larceny Bourbon
>Sazerac Rye
>1792
>redemption bourbon
>redemption rye
>elijah craig small batch
>elijah craig rye
>Knob Creek rye
Just listed the whiskeys I haven’t tried. Don’t just wanna buy another bottle of buffalo trace/makers mark.
Which do I get?

[Anonymous No.18720696]

>>18698716
Are there any good floridian whiskies?

[Anonymous No.18720706]

>>18719105
I did it with WT101 and Laph 10. All it takes is a few drops of the scotch since it's so rich in smoke.

[Anonymous No.18720759]

>>18719533
Don't like rye, so that kills half the list. Have a bottle of Larceny, quite good but not great. Remember tasting the 1792 some time ago, liked it quite a bit. Would probably go for the Elijah Craig Small Batch, because I haven't had it, but I would recommend Larceny if you haven't. Also, don't knock Makers Mark, I'm enjoying my bottle of 101 quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.18720941]

>>18719533
Elijah Craig or one of the ryes. The rest are pleasant but don't have something weird about them to love or hate. Craig has some woodiness.

[Anonymous No.18720996]

Went out for dinner and the restaurant happened to have Hibiki. I was always curious so i ordered a glass. It was alright, kinda dissapointed honestly.

[Anonymous No.18721035]

>>18720996
If it was real Hibiki and not the harmony or one of the lesser attempts, it's alright in a way run of the mill shit isn't. Really subtle and not challenging. Yamazaki and Hakushu age statements are the only truly good ones. I bankrupted myself drinking it before they becane unobtanium and the price hike. Nikka Coffey Grain is also good. I have never once in my life seen Straight from the Barrel but I personally wouldn't be disappointed because there is no drama to Japanese whisky, only geishas and poetry.

I once summited
That sacred mountain ridgeline
8 times, one summer

[Anonymous No.18721485]

>>18712736
>200 dollar msrp
not worth it anymore
I was lucky enough to get an act 9 a few months ago for 110 so I'm savoring that

[Anonymous No.18721538]

OK I got a bottle of Martinelli's non-alchy sparkling cider. Rum, Irish Whisky, or Rye Whisky?

[Anonymous No.18721543]

>>18721538
Irish, it tastes the same anyway

[Anonymous No.18721778]

been thinking bout how buffalo trace and eagle rare used to be my go to bottles like 4-5 years ago
blantons was pretty findable on the shelf at msrp
what happened...

[Anonymous No.18721797]

>>18721778
Buffalo vanished without a trace. Now Eagle is rare too.

[Anonymous No.18721823]

>>18721797
And Blanton's reserve is down to a single barrel

[Anonymous No.18721842]

>>18692732
What are you drinking? If it's beer, you may have a gluten intolerance.

[Anonymous No.18721916]

>>18715208
based Barbara

[Anonymous No.18722048]

>>18719533
Knob Creek Rye no question

[Anonymous No.18722305]

I just started trying to make an Old Fashioned and I can't seem to even approach the correct balance (I had it once at a bar for like $12 and it was obv perfect.) I've tried the following tonight: 1 tsp sugar muddled with 3 drops Peychaud's + 1 tsp water + 1 tray-size ice cube (made previous day, wrapped in plastic bag) + 2 oz Four Roses, with about 2.5 x 1 inch orange peel with no pith. The second attempt was about 1 tsp agave nectar + 4 drops Peychaud's + ice cube + orange peel + 1.75 oz Blue Nectar reposado tequila (good reviews for entry-tier sipper, but I'm not thrilled, though I found it at a great price.) I tried after making it adding a dash more bitters, adding a bit more syrup, adding a bit more water, and adding a bit more liquor -- nothing worked. I definitely didn't stir the first attempt enough at first but re-stirred after the first sip. It all just tastes unbalanced and separated, as if it's just a slightly-sweetened version of the base liquor. Peychaud's is recommended as a fine brand for this, and they say to use the same amount as Angostura, so I'm not sure that's it.

Any ideas? Tips?

[Anonymous No.18722316]

>>18690765
The e is for Ireland. They added it to be special. No e is correct.

[Anonymous No.18722354]

>>18722305
Tonight my ex told me he had the best old fashioned, recently, at a bar nearby. It makes me want to try it, if I do I can record them making it for you.

[Anonymous No.18722392]

>>18722305
just use simple syrup, the sugarcube shit is inferior and dissolves anyway if it's made right
should be stirring over ice for ~15 seconds, then strained into a glass with fresh ice
if it tastes too strong, your icecubes are too big and aren't sufficiently diluting the drink, stir longer or get smaller ice cubes

[Anonymous No.18722620]

>>18722305
bartenders are lying faggots just like chefs. they easily use 2-3x as much of the cheap ingredients like sugar and water/ice and jew you on the expensive shit with bitters and alchohol.

[Anonymous No.18722633]

>>18722305
>I just started trying to make an Old Fashioned and I can't seem to even approach the correct balance
You can't balance an Old Fashioned.

By nature it's an unbalanced cocktail.

[Anonymous No.18722793]

>>18722305
What do you think an old fashioned is supposed to taste like? It's what you call a "spirits forward" cocktail because it's basically just diluted liquor. Maybe get better whiskey in that case since it's the main component.
Also make sure you squeeze out the orange peel oils

[Anonymous No.18723411]

>>18722620
>>18722633
>>18722793
Have you guys just not had a good Old Fashioned? It's not supposed to simply taste like whiskey.

[Anonymous No.18723572]

>>18723411
Cocktails were practically invented and came to form covering up the taste of cheap hooch during prohibition. The exception is some old aperitifs and tiki drinks. Generally speaking. Recipes have been tweaked since then but you're either overpowering bad flavors or accentuating the one good thing a specific brand of cheap booze has going on. It's going to come down to what booze you use and the philosophy behind it. Old fashioneds tend to favor well bourbons with a certain flavor profile.

[Anonymous No.18724289]

>>18723572
Leaving aside that your premise, even if true, is utterly idiotic given the state of commerce and culture in the past century (and also, as far as I know only one country had Prohibition). And in the 21st century literally everyone says Four Roses is a good choice for an Old Fashioned.

I get it if you don't like cocktails in general. But then why are you replying to a question about how to make a cocktail?

[Anonymous No.18724368]

>>18724289
Because I wouldn't use such a sweet bourbon with sugar and orange. I'd use something woody and a little sour and bitter like Evan Williams or Old Forester. All you're going to get from four roses is a little cinnamon note on top. OF with sweet mixers will make the coffee notes pop.

[Anonymous No.18724399]

>>18693750
>>18698404
Distillery employee here.
We frequently soak our penises in the blends.
Many different penises = different characteristics

[Anonymous No.18724814]

What is the Wild Turkey 101 of Scotch?

[Anonymous No.18725034]

>>18693750
>Why does whiskey taste so different from distillery to distillery?
It doesn't really. Of course they're not the same but essentially they're all pretty similar. Even if you compare peated to non-peated etc.. Anyone nitpicking here is just a LARPer

[Anonymous No.18725488]

>>18723411
Well please tell us what makes a good old fashioned in your eyes, because everyone seems to have their own special spin to it

[Anonymous No.18725646]

What are some of the typical characteristics of a speyside?

[Anonymous No.18725652]

>>18725488
Just get some
slow and low
Rock and rye
It’s a little too sweet but if you have no idea what makes a good old fashioned it’s a good place to start.

[Anonymous No.18725807]

redpill me on the proper way to make an old fashioned. I used a recipe that combined bourbon (I used bulleit), simple sugar, angostura bitters, and an orange rind. it was okay, but I probably didn't make it right. the rind certainly wasn't as fancy as pic related.

later I watched a movie where the a guy makes one of these by crushing a sugar cube in with the bitters, then adding the bourbon and rind. is that how you're supposed to make it?

[Anonymous No.18725840]

>>18724814
Glenfiddich 12

[Anonymous No.18725890]

>>18725807
>crushing a sugar cube in with the bitters
Only if you're not using ice. The invention and use of ice necessitated the use of simple syrup (or the sugar doesn't dissolve properly).
The nature of the Old Fashioned cocktail is a story of balance. The bourbon on its own has qualities - fire, sweetness, wood, flavors.
The point of adding things is to balance those. Water cuts the fire, bitters alters the sweetness, citrus tackles the wood, and the flavors are now more pointed and focused.
The most important part about the cocktail is finding the balance of those extra ingredients for the characteristics of the bourbon you're using.
The true "secret ingredient" which will set your stuff apart from others - a small dash of salt. Not to add "salty" but to trick the tongue into 'sharpening' all the flavors for you.

[Anonymous No.18725905]

>>18725807
>enough angostura to cover the bottom of your tumbler/mixer
>0.25 oz simple syrup
>2 oz rye or strong bourbon, I recommend Rittenhouse rye or any barrel proof bourbon like 1792
>enough ice to mostly fill the container you're using
>Stir for 10-20 seconds, until cold to the touch
>Strain into glass with fresh ice
>peel of orange, twisted once in both directions to release oils, rubbed around the rim and placed into the glass

dilution is the key to a perfect old fashioned, if it tastes lopsided/spiky it probably is

[Anonymous No.18725923]

>>18689955
>top 5 entry level bourbons under $30?
>$30
which ever one has the highest alc%

[Anonymous No.18725933]

>>18725807
>redpill me on the proper way to make an old fashioned

there is no "proper" way. the cocktail started as literally just sugar, bitters, and rye. over time it evolved into a gazillion custom recipes bartenders adapted for their customers tastes, available ingredients, and cost control. that said, try this:

>demerara syrup, maple syrup, grenadine, or literally any other rich syrup that isn't just simple
>Peychaud's, 1812 old fashioned, Bitter Truth, or some other bitters that isn't Ango
>Rye whiskey, at least 100 proof. anything bottled in bond
>garnish with orange peel, cinnamon stick, smoldering rosemary, or some other tasty touch

experiment with those changes and find out what you like. Rye generally holds up better in an old fashioned because it's spicier and less smooth than bourbon. it also makes more sense to save your good bourbon for something less adulterated, but do whatever you like. Nowadays it's common to see old fashions made with añejos, Islays, and all sorts of spirits. And don't get me started on smoked old fashions...

[Anonymous No.18725946]

>>18725890
>>18725905
>>18725933
thank you friends, tomorrow I will go to grocery store and then experiment.

[Anonymous No.18725981]

>>18697468
I would unironically fuck the shit out of her big fat fuckin titties

[Anonymous No.18725992]

>>18725981
I'm not sure I quite understand what you mean, friend.

[Anonymous No.18726034]

>>18719003
>Anyone else do this?

No. Mezcal is cheaper and does the job better.

[Anonymous No.18726042]

>>18722392
>should be stirring over ice for ~15 seconds, then strained into a glass with fresh ice

that's patently false. an old fashioned cocktail is meant to be mixed in the glass it will be served in. if it's not diluted enough when served, you either need to stir more or stop being a pussy.

[Anonymous No.18726051]

>>18723572
>Cocktails were practically invented and came to form covering up the taste of cheap hooch during prohibition.

wrong again, faggot. the old fashioned cocktail literally gets its name from the fact that it predates prohibition by at least half a century. most recipes were just attempts to round off harsh flavors first, and then accent good flavors. there's a literal shit ton of information you could learn from a simple google search, but you're obviously an out of touch boomer. go die.

[Anonymous No.18726053]

>>18715348
glad we can agree on something. it's definitely gay

[Anonymous No.18726253]

>>18723411
It's not unbalanced because it has too much whisky in it, it's unbalanced because there's almost no acidity to balance the sweetness and alcohol.

[Anonymous No.18727022]

saw a 2022 Kilchoman Loch Gorm on the shelf but theres no reviews of it. Did it just get released or is it not worth talking about? supposedly the first Loch Gorm with an age statement of 8 years. 46% just hampers my expectations.

haven't had a Loch Gorm yet. I wanted to get something older as my Christmas gift to myself, but seeing that I want split my budget up and get it, Laphroaig 10 Sherry Oak, Lagavulin 16 and some cheap bourbon and Power's Gold Label.

[Anonymous No.18727103]

Guys before you ignore this post just know that I am serious...

[Anonymous No.18727117]

>>18690765
Lol how are you this daft

[Anonymous No.18727308]

>>18689955
Buffalo trace - literally S tier bourbon, you dont need to keep reading
WT 101 - peanut buttery and minty A tier
EW BIB - nice but burns a lot so you need to add some water and drink it cool. buy if theyre out of BT and WT101. B- tier, almost C

intentionally not included:
Evan williams black - burns like hell and there's a crazy reddit story about a dude banging a married woman after she got him drunk with it lol
Knob creek 9 - tastes like cherry coke and I hate it
monkey shoulder - yes i know it's scotch not bourbon but it keeps getting pushed when it's literally a youtube hypebeast with a noxious sour note that I hate

I tried pretty much every other bourbon like four roses and marker's and they're all forgettable. and don't tell people to buy eagle rare because you cant find it anywhere.

t. recovered bourbon addict

[Anonymous No.18727320]

>>18727308
>WT 101
>peanut buttery and minty
The fuck? It's all clove, dill, caramel, and char

[Anonymous No.18727427]

>>18727308
>Buffalo trace - literally S tier bourbon
based
>Knob creek 9 - tastes like cherry coke and I hate it
wack

[Anonymous No.18727431]

>>18689420
Is it even worth trying anything but Jack and Coke ?
Pure whiskey is pretty gross

[Anonymous No.18727452]

>>18706706
I want to try Longrow Peated but it's not sold in my country
What's a similar alternative

[Anonymous No.18727719]

good wisk(e)y is unfindable where I live (I don't live in a "British" country), so I'll have to stick to cheap blended Scotch and cheap bourbon. What am I missing? Wisk(e)y is the only liquor I enjoy.
Also is coffee and scotch that bad compared to irish wiskey as the posts are suggesting to OP?

[Anonymous No.18727855]

>>18727719
>Also is coffee and scotch that bad compared to irish wiskey as the posts are suggesting to OP?
One guy mentioned it 300 posts ago and he was just pointing out that it's not "Irish coffee" if you're making it with non-Irish whiskey. If you were going to make an equivalent with scotch though, it would have to be a very clean-tasting unpeated scotch or else it'd probably taste like shit.

[Anonymous No.18728188]

>>18727452
"Strap this on your sore ass, Blain!"

[Anonymous No.18728225]

>>18728188
That one isn't sold here either
I need a less obscure one, not more

[Anonymous No.18728256]

>>18728225
Kilkerran has been getting distribution in the spots where Springbank isnt.

You might try Peated Ardnamurchan, but their stuff just started being bottled this year or late last year.

Machrie Moor is Peated Arran, but probably less available.

Ledaig has been really popular the last year or so, but availability seemes spotty.

You might have to rough it with something like Ballechin, Kilchoman or peated Bunnahabhain.

If your market has dusty bottles look for Jura Superstition, iirc that was peated and had a cult following of sorts.

Glenallachie has a new peated 4 yr bottle on the market.

Highland Park, Old Pultney and Scapa are all Northern Islands and do peated runs.

Talisker and Torabhaig are peated, but Talisker's reputation is iffy and Torabhaig is relatively new.

similarities while be fairly skewed because Campbeltown is very prolific in character.

[Anonymous No.18728266]

>>18728256
I forgot to mention Wolfburn, but they got real fucking gay about Ukraine and all their bottles jumped $20 globally and they were already premium priced for the age/abv.

[Anonymous No.18728267]

>>18728256
I will check the availability of these, thank you

[Anonymous No.18728815]

had a temporary crown on a back tooth and half of my mouth is numb.

Statesman + sprite zero
may sip on some Signatory Eradour Sherry