/ctg/ Coffee Time General

[Anonymous No.18683120]

Thread for discussing coffee and coffee-related topics.
Sumatra edition

If you're new or confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz
If you're old and confused, drinking anything smoky lately?

Previous Thread:>>18669230

[Anonymous No.18683127]

Coffee is meant to be had with tobacco. If you aren't enjoying it with a nice bowl of pipe tobacco, a handrolled cigar, or a premium unfiltered cigarette, I pity you.

[Anonymous No.18683130]

>>18683127
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.18683146]

>>18683120
why does all coffee taste bitter and acidic and make my stomach churn, rendering me easily motion sick?
I've tried it at home, measuring it, I've tried it at coffee shops in several styles, tried it at work and church, I even drank it every night in uni for study. I can never get why people like this drink
Someone please enlighten me and in a way that won't cost me money. I have a temperature adjustable kettle and a coffee grinder from the 1920's sitting around and I'm probably not willing to spend more than $20 on extra equipment.

[Anonymous No.18683162]

>>18683146
It's not the coffee. It's you being a subhuman.

[Anonymous No.18683164]

>>18683120
doing a v60, i notice if i grind fine enough, the surface of the coffee will have an oily film to it.
thoughts on this?

[Anonymous No.18683186]

>>18683162
No that can't be right, I enjoy tea and do all the little fancy chinese brewing methods and find that pleasurable.
Is it just that coffee is too subhuman for me?

[Anonymous No.18683189]

>>18683164
which film?

[Anonymous No.18683196]

cold nights like this make me want a fresh cup, but I'm well past my caffeine cutoff time. is there a non shit decaf out there?

[Anonymous No.18683200]

>>18683127
this, except pecan pie

[Anonymous No.18683201]

>>18683146
>Someone please enlighten me and in a way that won't cost me money.
No. Or you know, buy some cometeer or drip bags from a good roaster like kurasu or april.

[Anonymous No.18683202]

>>18683201
good to know this is all about how much money you spend and not about the enjoyability

[Anonymous No.18683206]

>>18683202
sorry poorfag coffee is a luxury good if you live on foodstamps youre better off drinking water

[Anonymous No.18683207]

>>18683200
Sounds good, coffee is great with a brownie too

[Anonymous No.18683214]

>>18683146
get a v60 and use your kettle, see what happens. if you like it upgrade your grinder and viola world class coffee

[Anonymous No.18683218]

>>18683202
>how much money you spend
Yes, buying quality consumables usually results in an enjoyable experience. Your work and church buy shitty coffee, so you've had shitty experiences.
>How do I get a good steak without buying a good steak?

[Anonymous No.18683233]

>>18683218
so 99% of people drink terrible coffee because they don't spend $1500 for equipment?
because all I need for good tea is a $5 gaiwan and a $10 bag of leaf .
How did coffee become the main one when everyone drinks bad coffee?

[Anonymous No.18683278]

>>18683233
my friend you ostensibly already have one piece of the spendy puzzle (a capable kettle), a v60 is like $10, and while spending on a capable grinder would improve your cup so would learning how to do a proper pour over.
watch a YouTube video, try it with some pre ground coffee, and see how you like it. a hand grinder for pour over can be pretty cheap. some people still use hario grinders and those are like $30. the sky is the limit there if you want it to be.
or get an aeropress. it's not as expensive as you're making it sound

[Anonymous No.18683287]

>make some coffee
>the hoff appears with a baseball bat and beats me to a bloody amorphous pulp

[Anonymous No.18683323]

>>18683200
soyboy moment.

[Anonymous No.18683374]

>>18683200
this but only if you pronounce it pea can and not peck arn

[Anonymous No.18683378]

>>18683233
>so 99% of people drink terrible coffee because they don't spend $1500 for equipment?
yes
99% of people do not know what good coffee tastes like

[Anonymous No.18683387]

>>18683287
>he swirled 3 times while looking the mirror saying "hoffmann hoffmann hoffmann"
you brought this on yourself.

[Anonymous No.18683403]

>>18683146
try medium roast. light is acidic, dark is bitter. also take a break and drink water.

[Anonymous No.18683410]

>>18683403
fucking this. I have a burr grinder and do single drip. I have an espresso machine, but jesus christ just do single drip when you don't want to tamp and fuck around.

[Anonymous No.18683446]

expresso is being pretty delicious but i used it to wash down some liquid fish oil so everything would taste better in comparison to that

[Anonymous No.18683447]

>>18683130
?

[Anonymous No.18683700]

>>18683447
I think he's making fun of you. You know, the image of an intellectual neckbeard that thinks there are set ways of being "manly". For example, only enjoying coffee with tobacco, using "manly" vests and fedoras (as it was cool in the 1920s), collecting mlp figurines, being a doormat to women, etc. etc.

[Anonymous No.18683763]

>>18683700
And to add to that, it feels like some kind of inverse version of transactional feminism, or whatever it is. The notion that when I am like this and think like that, people will respect me, which screams insecurity to other people. "Look at me, I drink coffee with cigarettes, I am better than you!" when people just want to drink a good cup of coffee whichever way they want doesn't make you better, just an ass.

[Anonymous No.18683791]

I prefer a wake n bake session with my coffee

[Anonymous No.18683805]

still no discount on bripe

[Anonymous No.18683849]

>>18683805
Kek, looks funny. How much liquid dpes that hold?

[Anonymous No.18684087]

finally got my k6 pour over setting dialed in. the big issue is that I don't like the beans I got jej

[Anonymous No.18684104]

City roast seems to be perfect for me bros

[Anonymous No.18684105]

>>18684087
what beans

[Anonymous No.18684130]

>>18684105
local roaster's papua new guinea beans
i like their brazil roast better

[Anonymous No.18684147]

Eggnog + espresso 1:1
Eyeballed the nog, almost overflowed the damn thing.
Tasty but I'd warm up the nog more next time and maybe top with nutmeg.
I also added mushroom extract, didn't affect the taste. Shitake, maitake, lions mane, reishi, birch polypore, and turkey tail. Not sure if it actually does anything, but the placebo effect is real.

[Anonymous No.18684191]

>>18684130
>i like their brazil roast better
pleb

[Anonymous No.18684197]

>>18684130
I tried beans of that origin once, had a distinctive flavor that was also present to a lesser degree in nespresso pod of same origin. Very different

[Anonymous No.18684204]

>>18683233
99% of people drink terrible coffee because they've never had anything else.

[Anonymous No.18684225]

>>18684191
never said i wasn't
i also have only tried those two, might find another one that i like better

[Anonymous No.18684581]

>>18683805
No way that shit isn't a joke product

[Anonymous No.18684746]

>>18684581
I've heard its based.

[Anonymous No.18684769]

>>18684581
COUGH COUGH no jokes about it friendo if you haven't briped some dank roasts you haven't lived cough cough what are you some kinda pussy kid? bripe bripe pass already

[Anonymous No.18685006]

Just origami'd up some purple caturra. Been a couple weeks since I've made filter. 19:320 in 3 minutes. Abacas+melo+gio. Bretty good. What are you all sipping/briping on today?

[Anonymous No.18685183]

Hoffman kinds sucks tbqhfam

[Anonymous No.18685187]

>>18685183
Sucks from his bripe, yes

[Anonymous No.18685246]

>>18685187
forced meme is forced

[Anonymous No.18685248]

>>18685187
I didn't know hoff was that flexible

[Anonymous No.18685261]

Just got my first espresso machine, a breville clone, and after pulling my first shots I am pleasantly surprised that they are only a tad bit sour, some of the sweetness is peaking through. I know that most of you would recommend not touching the auto shot buttons, however consistently they produce the same volume, just water or through the puck. Should I develop my routine to accommodate these?

[Anonymous No.18685402]

>>18685183
I'm convinced aeropress gang poster is actually james hoffman shitposting.

[Anonymous No.18685472]

Is it moe-ka or maw-ka

[Anonymous No.18685482]

>>18685183
I'd agree but in the world of coffee ecelebs he's the only decent one.

[Anonymous No.18685492]

>>18685472
mo-ka

[Anonymous No.18685509]

>>18685472
moe-moe-ka

[Anonymous No.18685527]

>>18685509
Every day I stray farther and farther from god.

[Anonymous No.18685563]

>>18685492
this
stop adding vowels

[Anonymous No.18685564]

>>18683120
wasn't sure if i was going to like the flair 58 but man it makes some pretty damn good espresso
even got my friends who come over every weekend making their own espresso with it

[Anonymous No.18685664]

What is /ctg/'s recommended method for brewing with a french press?
Got one a few months ago and so far most of my brews, to be fair without a scale or adjustable kettle, have been somewhat mediocre and I'm not sure if the problem is my brewing method or my atrociously hard water.

[Anonymous No.18685666]

>italian """coffee"""

[Anonymous No.18685671]

>>18685564
Welcome to the gang.

[Anonymous No.18685697]

This is from a thread I made earlier but they all told me to come to this thread so I am posting it again.

Are these pour-over coffee tools any good? I've only ever had instant coffee, those kuerig cups and drip machine coffee.

Now I am trying to make better coffee since I feel like I haven't really had a decent cup in my life. Do regular round filters work okay or do I need special filters? I don't live in an area with many independent coffee sellers since I'm not white, so is there a website I can order decent quality beans or grounds? How hot should the water be? I just made a 10oz cup using pic related

[Anonymous No.18685703]

>>18685697
Yes, they're good. Tons of youtube videos to help you figure out how you want to use it best, too. Water temp depends on your roast level. James Hoffmann, Lance Hedrick and lots of others can help you along, and the rest of your questions I'm sure someone else can help you with here
welcome to cohee general enjoy your stay buy an aeropress

[Anonymous No.18685706]

>>18685697
>Are these pour-over coffee tools any good?
They are an industry standard.
>do I need special filters?
Kind of. You'll want cone filters, of which there are various brands with various flow rates that may or may not work well with the particular coffee you're using. I'm using cafec abacas and mediums right now.
https://cafec-jp.com/products/filterpaper/
>so is there a website I can order decent quality beans or grounds?
Tell us where you're at and we can find you a roaster to order from.
>How hot should the water be?
Your water should be as hot as it can be while the cup still tastes good. Start at boiling and back off.

[Anonymous No.18685713]

>>18685664
I also have hard water any typically don't do anything that fancy.
>Add grounds
>pour in hot water
>Press filter down until only barely underwater
>Steep 4 minutes
>Slowly press filter down the rest of they way and then pour the coffee.

[Anonymous No.18685720]

>>18685706
I live in Los Angeles about 10 minutes from LAX. Pic related is all they had at the grocery store besides the rounder cupcake shaped paper.

[Anonymous No.18685726]

>>18685720
Melita-style brewers have a different shape. You'll want to get some proper cone ones probably.

[Anonymous No.18685728]

>>18685720
I'll shill these guys since I really liked the beans I had after some other guy shilled them to me.
https://swroasting.com

[Anonymous No.18685762]

>>18683120
Anyone know if it's worth paying more for a single origin from a local roaster vs buying an expensive grocery store blend?

[Anonymous No.18685773]

>>18685563
What are phonetics?

[Anonymous No.18685794]

>>18685720
>>18685726
You can use truncated cone filters in a conical pour over cone.
1. open up filter
2. place filter in one cupped hand (the anvil)
3. make a fist with your other hand (the hammer)
4. insert hammer fist into filter and rotate fist to round out the bottom
5. place paper into cone and sooth out paper seam
The scrunched, rounded bottom of the paper has no effect on the cup of coffee other than making the paper sit correctly in the funnel.

[Anonymous No.18685797]

>>18685762
Impossible to say. Too many coffees out there.

[Anonymous No.18685811]

>>18685794
This is code for CBT isn't it?

[Anonymous No.18685834]

>>18685811
Just because one life skill directly translates into another life skill that doesn't make it a dirty metaphor. Although I do employ dirty metaphors when I teach, I take no responsibility for what things people may or may not do with these skills. The bottom line is adaptability. If there is a way to make something fit, we will find that way.

[Anonymous No.18685842]

>>18683120
Coffee is bad for you.

[Anonymous No.18685843]

>>18685728
>some other guy shilled them to me
Hey thats me.
>>18685706
>>18685720
> Los Angeles
You made it sound like you're in Africa. You have several great roasters around you and a states worth of others if you're willing to get shit mailed in.
They've probably got filters too.
https://elevencoffees.com/the-best-los-angeles-specialty-coffee-roasters/

[Anonymous No.18685845]

>>18685773
Does this help?
IPA: /ˈmɔ.ka/

[Anonymous No.18685957]

does good decaf exist

[Anonymous No.18685959]

>>18685957
We'll find out when the Hoff makes his decaf video

[Anonymous No.18685961]

>>18685842
this wasn't posted with a horny image so I don't believe you.

[Anonymous No.18686031]

>>18685959
He did that video with Tom Scott where he featured a bunch of decaf beans, so those would probably be a good starting point.

[Anonymous No.18686155]

>>18686031
He didn't really talk about those coffees that much though. He said that he's making an extensive investigation into decaf, but it's a big project so it's talking a long while. Interested to see what he comes up with.

[Anonymous No.18686196]

>>18686155
True, but the fact that he chose them to try to get someone into coffee is a good sign.
Since they were chosen to represent rather broad categories of coffee, just choose the one closest to what you normally enjoy.

[Anonymous No.18686695]

>>18684225
sorry.
what was the other bean

[Anonymous No.18686698]

>>18686695
WAIT
i am actually fucking retarded.
ignore me.

[Anonymous No.18686766]

>>18685472
its mock ah/uh

[Anonymous No.18686768]

>>18685564
looks kinda weak
what did you do to it.

[Anonymous No.18686773]

>>18685666
italian food is mid too.
damn italians really cant catch a break

[Anonymous No.18686776]

>>18685762
>grocery store blend
doesnt matter how expensive it is, it will be shit.

[Anonymous No.18686777]

>>18684197
What a pointless post

[Anonymous No.18686837]

>>18686768
Added hot water

[Anonymous No.18686839]

>>18686837
disgusting.

[Anonymous No.18687315]

>>18686777
What do you want me to say or do, make conjectures? I guess I wonder if that note is prevalent for papua? And that it could be polarizing? It’s just radically different to typical taste notes, not fruity nor sweet, maybe closer to Sumatra but not as earthy and funky. Really can’t generalize too much because I only ever had the pod and some sample pack

[Anonymous No.18687322]

>>18683146
It makes my stomach upset too, drinking it with a glass of water helps, and I drink it slowly.

[Anonymous No.18687341]

>>18685697
You can jam Costco or w/e bulk purchase filters into a pour-over. I find the difference is marginal and its significantly cheaper to do so.

[Anonymous No.18687358]

>>18687315
I went through an lb of this and hated it. Definitely a weird herbal earthy spicy funk to it. Unique I guess, but I'd rather drink fermenty fruit bombs and lemon balm.
https://www.sweetmarias.com/papua-new-guinea-kainantu-sero-7154.html

[Anonymous No.18687403]

>>18687358
I tend to buy 200g or smaller bag of new stuff to try, and another bag of stuff I know I’ll like. I couldn’t even decide whether I like it or hate it, it just kinda confused me… if I had to down a whole lb of that I’ll definitely get sick of it lol

[Anonymous No.18687461]

guh

[Anonymous No.18687490]

yeh i think its coffee time its a good time for coffee

[Anonymous No.18687708]

Just had a thought, while I preinfuse the spresso, maybe I shouldn't put a cup under there and only put a cup when I pull the shot? Is that something that people do? Like not get any of the drips while the portafilter not fully saturated into my cup
Flair btw

[Anonymous No.18687714]

If you don't ket your grounds bloom before brewing, you are not white. You're probably Italian.

[Anonymous No.18687722]

>>18687714
What does blooming actually accomplish? I know it's something to do with CO2 but I mean in terms of the actual resulting brew

[Anonymous No.18687741]

>>18687708
Tasted a lot more uniform and balanced but bitter. Texture like one sameish drink instead of several different layers of hell one after the other. since I used a bigger amount of water my conclusion is worthless lol
I think I prefer keeping the droplets from coffee while it's still not fully saturated. More fun to drink

[Anonymous No.18687765]

>>18687714
im not blooming my moka and im not a filthy italian.

[Anonymous No.18687897]

Where does the filthy aeropress gang stand on blooming?

[Anonymous No.18688128]

>One weak cup of coffee at breakfast makes me feel like im almost dying for 8 hours afterwards
Why the fuck
I used to be able to drink a 5 times stronger cup on an empty stomach and feel fine albeit highly jittery and euphoric

[Anonymous No.18688152]

Welp I pulled the trigger on the cute girl coffee. Pretty good honestly. Bit too bitter, need to use a coarser grind/lower temp.

[Anonymous No.18688159]

>>18686839
Bitch
I like to enjoy my coffee forore than a few sips

[Anonymous No.18688172]

>>18688159
then just make more espresso dummy.
or add milk.
adding water to any kind of coffee is just insulting.
or maybe dont make espresso, brew using a method that makes more coffee like pour over.

[Anonymous No.18688185]

>>18683120
rate my setup

[Anonymous No.18688194]

>>18688172
What are you, the espresso police?
I take a sip or two of the espresso to gauge my espresso making ability then i add water
you can't stop me

[Anonymous No.18688195]

>>18688194
I prefer drinking it dry, without any disgusting water in it

[Anonymous No.18688202]

>>18688195

[Anonymous No.18688209]

>>18688194
same, I'll take a few sips and if it's not perfect I'll just turn it into an americano

[swaglord No.18688216]

>>18687741
>Tasted a lot more uniform and balanced but bitter
the first part extracted is the sour part. if you got rid of that youd want to get rid of the end too (or stop the pull earlier) or it's going to be bitter.

definitely better to just capture all of it and adjust the entire shot than to do something that's pretty non-repeatable each time. what tastes bad about your normal shot?

[Anonymous No.18688221]

>>18688202
Huh. It wasn't as funny as I thought it would be

[Anonymous No.18688224]

>>18683120
I have a french press, an aeropress, a cold brew press, a cofee grinder and fresh beans, but I'm just depressed and lazy so I've been using a keurig for my daily coffee, that I haven't cleaned or descaled in 6 months.

How do I get myself in the mood to do the extra steps of making good coffee for myself?? I'm literally struggling rn.

[swaglord No.18688225]

>>18688172
>adding water to any kind of coffee is just insulting
weird mindset. whiskey aficionados add water to whiskeys that are way more expensive than any coffee to open up the flavors. why wouldnt the same work for coffee?

[swaglord No.18688231]

>>18688224
>How do I get myself in the mood to do the extra steps of making good coffee for myself?? I'm literally struggling rn.
throw out your keurig. also, start exercising - like even walking - and getting some sun

[Anonymous No.18688249]

>>18688224
try journaling, recording what you do during the day and how it makes you feel. If you notice a pattern, you can try to change your habits in response to that. Probably making yourself a nice coffee would make you feel good. And you deserve a nice coffee, anon, you've been through a lot

[Anonymous No.18688287]

>>18688216
Oh thanks, that sort of explains it. The end part is bitter then? Or both of them are sour? I kinda like the sourness in a shot, but this time I tried not getting the first drops I also stopped the pull before all the water went through. Just used less volume than usual.
What tastes bad about my normal shot? ehh I guess sometimes it's a bit overwhelming and so overly intense that it makes me shudder. Other times it's too bitter to my liking. Worst when it's chalky bitter tasting, but that's something I remember from different coffee beans I used. Flair pro 2 also just doesn't do shots that are as warm as what you get from a proper cafe machine.
I really don't bother logging my shots as much as I should and I vary the grounds a little every time. I don't weigh the output.
The chart was useful for mentally explaining the flavors to myself, though I just get used to liking bad coffee instead of trying to better things. I don't want to invest more money than I already did. If I get an Acaia Lunar, that's like half the price of that Omega slow fruit juicer I want. Espresso stuff is low priority for me compared to other cooking memes..

[Anonymous No.18688306]

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etnMr8oUSDo
ITS UP

[Anonymous No.18688311]

>>18688225
>all liquids are the same
moron
also you will find a ton of "whiskey aficionados" who do not like anything in there whiskey other than whiskey.

[Anonymous No.18688325]

>>18688306
>3:32
espresso fags eternally btfo

[swaglord No.18688399]

>>18688287
shot progresses from acid > sweet > bitter. you'll get a whole lot of value out of getting a scale and using it to stop your shot by weight instead of just timing it - and also weighing your dose each time. doesnt even need to be an expensive scale. can't really help much with diagnosing shots if you arent keeping variables as constant as possible.

typical dialing in would be get your 1:2 (ex. 18 in 36 out) shot in the 25-30 second range via adjusting grind size and then taste. if it's too sour, decrease yield. too bitter increase yield. if its both too sour and too bitter youve either ground too fine and are channeling or your puck prep sucks and you're channeling so you have an uneven extraction.

[Anonymous No.18688423]

>>18688399
> if it's too sour, decrease yield. too bitter increase yield.
hope you meant to say the opposite

[Anonymous No.18688440]

THE BOMBSHELL

[Anonymous No.18688486]

>>18688440
wowowowow
we've been doing it wrong

[Anonymous No.18688515]

>>18688399
Gotcha. I have a scale, but it barely fits in there, so I don't like using it

[Anonymous No.18688518]

>made turkish coffee for the first time
>absolutely fucking love it

[swaglord No.18688535]

>>18688423
>hope you meant to say the opposite
i did, thanks for catching

[Anonymous No.18688589]

>>18688440
really wished he roasted much darker. maybe there is a drop off at really dark beans.

[Anonymous No.18688597]

>>18688486
>wrong
i dont care how much caffeine my goffee has.
do you?

[Anonymous No.18688635]

>>18688440
whats all that weird shit in the grounds? the light brown specks

[swaglord No.18688639]

>>18688440
sick. light roast espresso bros get to ingest more per day without getting overcaffeinated

[Anonymous No.18688643]

>>18688589
>drinking a darker roast than that
burnt is a flavor i guess

as far as caffeine, i'd say espresso has a good amount, and if anything this is an excuse to either pull longer shots or two shots in a day

[Anonymous No.18688653]

>>18687722
It lets all of the grounds get coated in water, which apparently allows for a much more even extraction than just pouring directly onto a dry bed which would cause the grounds to all hydrate and begin extracting at different times

[Anonymous No.18688657]

>>18688440
Is anyone surprised? There are more seeds in 17g of dark roast coffee than in 17g of light roast. However, each seed has the same amount of caffeine. So, when measuring by weight, dark roast will have more seeds and thereby more caffeine.

That espresso has so little caffeine was the real interesting finding.

[Anonymous No.18688678]

>>18688643
>drinking a darker roast than that
who said i drank that shit? just thought it was weird he stopped there when he knows alot of people (italians spanish japs) drink really dark roasted shit.

[Anonymous No.18688680]

>>18688657
>seeds
fuck off back to tea general

[Anonymous No.18688682]

>>18687897
>blooming
pour hard die hard that's the aeropress way

[Anonymous No.18688683]

>>18688678
he probably wants to promote not drinking that stuff so fuck em

[Anonymous No.18688693]

>>18688680
They're seeds retard, and I'll continue referring to them as such.

[Anonymous No.18688708]

>>18688693
yeh no shit they are seeds dumbass, but thats not what they have ever been called when talking about the brewing of coffee you fedora wearing scum fuck retard.

[Anonymous No.18688745]

>>18688635
That's chaff. A thin, papery membrane surrounds the coffee seeds, which to a lesser or greater extent loosens when the coffee expands during roasting. Even with vigorous agitation during cooling, some still clings inside the cleft in the coffee which comes off when the coffee is ground.

[Anonymous No.18688756]

do you brush your hand grinder after every use?

[Anonymous No.18688757]

>>18688756
no
but there is no harm in doing it.

[Anonymous No.18688759]

>>18688756
Yes.

[Anonymous No.18688764]

>>18688757
I alternate between completely different coffees every time. There's no good reason for me not to brush the last coffee off.

[Anonymous No.18688766]

>>18688756
i do between beans but like other anon said, no harm no foul

[Anonymous No.18688774]

>>18685697
Concerning filters, if you don't trust the distribution network you have for timely deliveries, you could purchase cotton/hemp reusable filters. Especially for the. v60, these are widely available on the Internet. If you do go this route, consider getting some espresso machine cleaning powder, as it will clean the shit out of cloth filters. You treat them right they'll last a long time.

[Anonymous No.18688818]

>>18687897
You don't need to bloom if you're only going to be doing 1 immersion phase.

[Anonymous No.18688824]

>>18688708
cope and seed bitch

[Anonymous No.18688843]

>>18688745
You can't drink that though right? Like it needs to be removed before you brew the coffee.

[Anonymous No.18688853]

>>18688843
no you can drink it just fine
some autists painstakingly remove it but you don't need to

[Anonymous No.18688865]

>>18688756
yep
i actually enjoy doing it, usually brush while waiting for my draw down and it only takes a few seconds anyways

[Anonymous No.18688866]

is there a go to brand for french press? I heard good things about espro but I'm euro

[Anonymous No.18688874]

>>18688866
bodum

[Anonymous No.18688882]

>>18688843
It doesn't really matter. I try to get as much off after roasting as I can, but some coffees simply have more and you can never get all of it. I have not noticed a difference in taste in a small amount of chaff and no chaff.

[Anonymous No.18688931]

>>18688195
made and drank an espresso just for you anon <3

[Anonymous No.18688940]

>>18688853
>>18688888
oh okay I thought it was poisonous or something

[Anonymous No.18688983]

Thinking of selling my espresso machine and niche, since pour over is better 100% of the time for the coffee I like anyway

[Anonymous No.18689013]

Usps lost my fucking wdt tool reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

[Anonymous No.18689123]

>>18688983
>since pour over is better 100% of the time for the coffee I like anyway
what grinder are you using for pourover?

[Anonymous No.18689133]

>>18689013
>not making your own out of a prosecco cork and acupuncture needles and adding a little magnet so it can live on your espresso machine and stab you on occasion when you go to froth milk

[Anonymous No.18689156]

>>18684147
>implying you'd ever drink eggspresso WITHOUT mushrooms

[Anonymous No.18689161]

>>18689133
Looks like shit, works like shit. Used a boulevard cork and paperclips for years. You'll feel dumb for using it once you snag a 3d printed one off etsy. I dropped mine behind the bar and I'm too lazy to move everything to get to it, so I ordered a swork.

[Anonymous No.18689171]

>>18688931
Nice! Needs less liquid and more grounds, though

[Anonymous No.18689180]

>>18688306
So what's the conclusion?
>caffeine doesn't depend on extraction
>longer brew time = more caffeine
>darker roast = more caffeine
>even tho robusta, instant has little caffeine because it's shit coffee

[Anonymous No.18689207]

>>18689123
1zpresso k-plus
Pretty happy with it but if I sell the stuff I might use the cash and counter space on a lagom p100 or other meme flat burr..

[Anonymous No.18689215]

>>18689207
keep the niche for days you don't want to hand grind

[Anonymous No.18689224]

>>18689215
>keep the niche for days you don't want good filter coffee
ftfy

[Anonymous No.18689256]

Stainless steel or aluminium moka pot?

[Anonymous No.18689262]

>>18689256
They're all aluminum

[Anonymous No.18689264]

>>18689256
stainless steel, obviously
>>18689262
no they're not dummy

[Anonymous No.18689265]

>>18685402
Here to burst your bubble, I am a mid class white trash man from Saskatchewan
>>18685703
Based
>>18687897
Not necessary. I bloom when I do pour over though.
>>18688682
Extra based

[Anonymous No.18689266]

>>18685006
Based Origami User

[Anonymous No.18689269]

>>18684130
i am beginning to warm up to these beans. maybe as a means of cope but they do kinda a have an interesting funk to them

[Anonymous No.18689313]

>>18689264
All the grinds basket are aluminium

[Anonymous No.18689353]

The seasoning keeps the aluminum from leeching.

[Anonymous No.18689408]

>>18689265
>saskatchewan
>needs to travel for work
checks out

[Anonymous No.18689423]

>>18689265
The only person I know irl who uses an aeropress is a nunavut scumbag.

[Anonymous No.18689589]

>>18689423
I Aeropress from Ontario eh?
I know a guy out in Calgary who bripes, too.

[swaglord No.18689769]

just got back from a cupping @ proud mary coffee in austin. tasted some crazy good stuff!

[swaglord No.18689770]

>>18689769

[Anonymous No.18689784]

>>18689770
i-it's Gesha

[Anonymous No.18689788]

>>18689769
Found anon
>>18689770
>50% geisha
Damn, need to get myself some geisha

[Anonymous No.18689796]

>>18689770
damn how much did that cost

[Anonymous No.18689800]

I asked my local roaster if he could get Geisha and he just laughed at me...

[swaglord No.18689803]

>>18689788
>Damn, need to get myself some geisha
it was a blind cupping and 3 of the 4 that i marked as the ones i liked the most were geishas. the other was the indonesia, which i actually mistook for a geisha. i was biased against indonesian beans previously for being too earthy, but this was very bright and funky

>>18689796
>damn how much did that cost
free. it's just some sips of their coffees to taste. very fun to figure out what you like and dont like though

[Anonymous No.18689805]

>>18689800
Go to little japan and ask for a geisha, I'm sure they'll oblige you. Just be careful what kind of grinding you do with her.

[Anonymous No.18689813]

>>18689408
Lol I'm not a farmer or cop, of course I have to travel for work
>>18689423
Why's he scum?
>>18689589
Hopefully Northern ontario

[Anonymous No.18689816]

>>18689803
how can they afford to let you taste all that expensive coffee for free? I would have to pay $50 to do that here.

[Anonymous No.18689818]

>>18689816
NTA but places will spend way more than that for publicity. Especially if they're big and successful.

[Anonymous No.18689839]

>>18689769
>>18689770
>>18689803
Kys faggot

[Anonymous No.18689906]

>>18689803
>indonesian beans previously for being too earthy, but this was very bright and funky
Told you senpai. Bali Kintamani nat is one to look out for next year.
>>18689813
You should see how dirty his pavoni is.

[Anonymous No.18689920]

sup loosers. never been on /ck/ before

[Anonymous No.18690008]

>>18689920

[Anonymous No.18690146]

>open Monogram
>weird ass names
okay but which ones are good?

[Anonymous No.18690196]

>>18689265
Which one do you use more often?

[Anonymous No.18690201]

>>18689920
go back to /out/

[Anonymous No.18690252]

>>18689920
Who is the roaster with AA? ArchAngel? Angel and Airwaves? I think they sell on Amazon

[Anonymous No.18690256]

>>18690008
What's your roasting setup?

[Anonymous No.18690298]

>>18690256
https://www.popperisacoffeeroaster.com/about-popper/

[Anonymous No.18690324]

>>18689161
>paperclips
That's why yours worked like shit retard. I'm using the same 0.3mm needles your shit plastic etsy one is. There's no difference in functionality

[Anonymous No.18690343]

>>18689920
sup /fag/

[swaglord No.18690347]

>>18689906
>told you senpai. Bali Kintamani nat is one to look out for next year
i won't let the sumatrafags taint my views henceforth

[Anonymous No.18690413]

>>18690196
The big one. Because when I'm at home, i make multiple cups a day with it. But when I'm working (away from home) I can only make 2 cups a day , and I use the little one for work.

[Anonymous No.18690433]

>>18688843
Go ahead and prepare two cups, one of which you painstakingly pulled each individual speck of chaff out of and compare and post results. See you in 12 hours!

[Anonymous No.18690447]

>>18690324
Yeah try 0.22mm tardo.

[Anonymous No.18690505]

>>18688843
is this a troll? are you new?
all good coffee has chaff in it.

[Anonymous No.18690520]

>>18688866
i mean french press is just a vessel that you put coffee and hot water into, set to rest and then seperate the grounds from the brewed coffee.
there isn't really any "tech" to improve upon.
also the best french press technique doesnt even use the press. so as long as you can filter out the grounds you can use whatever you like.

[Anonymous No.18690530]

>>18689256
E&B Lab 6 cup moka
everything else is a waste of money.

[Anonymous No.18690540]

>>18689180
>darker roast = more caffeine
we dont know how far this extends tho. does it keep going up even if you literally burn the fuck out of the coffee? or does it drop off.

[Anonymous No.18690549]

>>18689770
>no burundi natural process
what a waste of time.
but for real those are some nice goffees.
how did you find those panama to be? i have never had geisha natural, only washed and they were still the best beans i have ever had.

also that one from el salvador didnt really do much for me. how was it for you?

[Anonymous No.18690559]

>>18689800
sorry champ no poors allowed.

[Anonymous No.18690570]

>>18689920
tell me how you like that natural burundi.
also that yemen, never had beans from there before.

[Anonymous No.18690591]

>>18690570
Yemeni coffee is afaik always natural process, and wild as fuck. These are flavors that often come in those coffees: dried fruits (raisin, apricot, dates), chocolate, squash/pumpkin, tobacco, leather. It has HUGE body, is almost always some kind of funky, is almost always roasted between a full city and a vienna, makes good espresso, and an extremely unusual brewed coffee.

[Anonymous No.18690640]

This is how I make coffee right now

[Anonymous No.18690685]

Anyone have a bambino? Is it worth it to upgrade the milk pitcher?

[Anonymous No.18690687]

>>18690591
>dried fruits (raisin, apricot, dates), chocolate, squash/pumpkin, tobacco, leather.
reminds me of the natural burundi yesterday.
i do moka and yeh very funky and very unusual.
which is why i like it so much.
like when you are grinding coffee and you can already start picking out flavor notes just from the aroma, you know you are in for a treat.
i just finished a bag of natural/washed brazil blend and it was good but grinding and drinking it was just "good coffee" which gets pretty boring.

[Anonymous No.18690698]

>>18690520
with an espro you 100% need to use the press and multiple times too to get as much coffee as you can out of it. you end up with less silt than using the hoffmeme method with a normal press (even the ones with double filters).

[Anonymous No.18690716]

>>18690640
whys your coffee need menstrual pads anon

[Anonymous No.18690740]

>>18690252
It's an M, and it's Monogram.

[Anonymous No.18690753]

>>18688983
I don't have as nice of an espresso setup but I feel this. Excellent espresso is excellent, but it's not an experience I need to have often. I much prefer enjoying a 350ml cup of a light roast pourover

[Anonymous No.18690799]

>>18690716
senseo pads

[Anonymous No.18690808]

>>18690799
So these things grow coffee plants? And what do potato chips have to do with coffee plant certification?

[Anonymous No.18690868]

>>18684087
>k6 pour over setting dialed in
what setting? i've been using 60-65 clicks.

[Anonymous No.18690885]

>>18688306
>>18688440
This is James' best video ever, now I wish coffee bags listed the caffeine of the product.

[Anonymous No.18690888]

>>18690347
Fuck off nigger

[Anonymous No.18690900]

>>18690885
it sounds very expensive.

[Anonymous No.18690971]

>>18690591
>>18690687
Also at darker roasts on Yemeni coffee bring out flavors of dark rye bread and whole wheat

[Anonymous No.18691067]

>>18685402
I'm convinced he's the anti dark roast poster

[Anonymous No.18691071]

>>18690591
>>18690687
>>18690971
Sounds awful


Washed process gang

[Anonymous No.18691184]

>>18689180
>even tho robusta, instant has little caffeine because it's shit coffee
Wrong, instant coffee has little caffeine because they use very little coffee to make it

[Anonymous No.18691323]

tfw affogato with gingerbread ice cream

[Anonymous No.18691332]

almost time for my night time goffee.

[Anonymous No.18691347]

I only drink coffee when I want to empty my bowels.

[Anonymous No.18691376]

>>18691347
Coffee is the main reason why I spent my first hour at work on the John when I worked at an office.

[Anonymous No.18691407]

>>18685564
something primal about making coffee without needing electricity

[Anonymous No.18691559]

>>18690008
Aw ye

>>18690201
Never been on /out/

>>18690008
Monogram

>>18690008
Mah dude I still have that bag in the freezer. How is it?

>>18690570
Burundi is always good, though I think I prefer washed from that origin. Haven't opened that natural Burundi yet but I had a washed Burundi from that same roaster that made delicious cups and spro. Was my first time having Yemen beans.bthey were light roast and very floral/buttery but had a lot of body at the same time. Super interesting and tasty.

[Anonymous No.18691575]

>>18691559
did you mean to tag the same guy 3 times?
also is that your picture?

[Anonymous No.18691592]

>>18691575
No I did not, I'm an idiot.

And ya, I took that photo.

[Anonymous No.18691628]

>>18691592
these are nice photos :)
i really like the aesthetic of the first one.
my mum made me a ceramic tile to put my moka on when i take it off the stove. and a knitted koozie for my ceramic cup so i dont burn my hands when i pick it up.

[Anonymous No.18691650]

>>18685564
Hate myself for not getting the 58 when I could. I let the Hoff's criticism about the heating element sway me

[Anonymous No.18691685]

>>18691628
Post it!

>>18691650
I just have the pro2 and even that isn't a big deal to preheat desu

[Anonymous No.18691693]

>>18691685
kino

[Anonymous No.18691696]

>>18691685
Cute setup. It isn't a big deal to preheat with steam, but preheating aside I hate the shape of the filter. 58 is standard espresso machine stuff, not this tall thing with a step we have

[Anonymous No.18691729]

>>18691685
pretty scared to post oc online(im just a paranoid schizo) , idk she said she made me a new tile for christmas so maybe i will post that one when i open the gift.

[Anonymous No.18691744]

>>18691685
A flaccid flair looks so much like a sex toy. Also why do you have a pourover kettle if you seemingly don't have any pourover brewers?

[Anonymous No.18691750]

I've been staying with my octogenarian dad this week and he drinks old school 2nd wave charred coffee and I'm appreciating it more than I used to. You can just sit around all morning and drink cup after cup and it's no problem. It's a bit like beer vs liquor. My habit of starting off the day with 2 cups of high octane high acidity heart attack coffee might need reevaluation.

You just need to brew it at a lower temperature and more slowly and it's really not as bad as you probably think.

That is all.

[Anonymous No.18691772]

>>18691744
nta, but aesthetics and it feels good to pour

[Anonymous No.18691821]

>>18691744
Because it's easier to pour with, even if I only brew with a flair and aeropress. Hard to find a temp controlled kettle that's not a gooseneck but still has an easily controlled pour.

[Anonymous No.18692170]

Are you supposed to put more sugar in your coffee If you're using lactose free milk?

[Anonymous No.18692288]

>>18691650
You fucked up. I'm not sure why you took
>Frustratingly close to outstanding
As a negative.

[Anonymous No.18692347]

I specifically hold off on my coffee until I get to work. Once I have my cab set up all how I like and I'm nice and comfy and the wheels are rolling I take that first sip and without exception every time I get a chill down my spine with how intensely pleasurable that first sip is.

[Anonymous No.18692388]

4h of sleep and 1 liter deep
it's only noon. i'm not gonna make it bros.

[Anonymous No.18692393]

>>18692388
Wash your face with cold water

[Anonymous No.18692395]

>>18692347
Good wagie

[Anonymous No.18692409]

>>18692395
Cab drivers don't have wages though do they?

[Anonymous No.18692421]

>>18692288
He seemed to be really disappointed to me about the power cable, but maybe it was just his snobbish British face he always makes

[Anonymous No.18692445]

Day 4 with no coffee. Time to relapse /ck/entlemen

[Anonymous No.18692449]

>>18692445

[Anonymous No.18692576]

>>18692393
didn't help. it's already cold af here too. i'm not gonna be able to avoid a nap today.

[Anonymous No.18692579]

I bought a used Breville Express and found this rubber piece loose in the box. What the fuck is it used for? I can't find anything it goes with.

[Anonymous No.18692581]

Stupid question but if immersion brewing via a French Press is a thing, and devices like the Hario Switch/Clever exist, what is preventing me from steeping ground coffee in a tea pot or wrapped in a coffee filter like a big tea bag?

[Anonymous No.18692591]

>>18692579
Cock ring. Mine. Send it back please.

[Anonymous No.18692611]

>>18692581
Freshly ground coffee needs to offgas (hence why blooming is a thing for pourover). Keeping freshly ground coffee tightly held together would work against this. Should be fine with stale ground coffee tho

[Anonymous No.18692637]

>>18692576
I mean if you have an opportunity for a nap then go for it. Even a short nap greatly improves your energy throughout the day.

[Anonymous No.18692652]

>>18692581

[Anonymous No.18692654]

>>18692652
Uhm, based?

[Anonymous No.18692659]

>>18692652
Wtf, never seen those. What they're like?

[Anonymous No.18692665]

>>18692581
>what is preventing me from steeping ground coffee in a tea pot
>what is cowboy coffee

[Anonymous No.18692666]

>>18692579
grouphead gasket. Goes in the spot where your portafilter locks in. Probably just a replacement.

[Anonymous No.18692723]

>>18691071
They aren't for everyone. That's why I was explaining about what to expect. I like them. They're really interesting and complex. They're not one-note coffees at all.

[Anonymous No.18692740]

I've ordered a cheap roaster and some beans:
>Indonesia Sumatra Lintong
>Washed Yirgacheffe
What should I expect, other than sheer disappointment in myself and burnt beans?

[Anonymous No.18692741]

>>18692659
Fresher than Tub-o-Folgers because they come in individually sealed packets.

[Anonymous No.18692756]

What are some good coffees to try at Costco?

[Anonymous No.18692766]

>>18692740
Expect that your results will be better than expected, pretty much right away. Most of a roast's quality is just end color. Loads of roasters (home and pro) stop here, because it tastes good, and they did it, so it must be better or optimal or whatever. But this is not the case. There are large gains to be had by understanding roasting, using good roast logging equipment and software, and being very critical of what you produce.

[Anonymous No.18692771]

>>18692756
dunkin original blend

[Anonymous No.18692776]

>>18692740
Trial and error. It takes a while to get roasting figured out. It takes a while to figure out how roast affects every coffee. It takes a while to figure out what types of coffee you like. I approach every first batch of a new coffee at a city roast, which will be somewhere in the middle of first crack. A good, balanced medium. Adjust lighter or darker according to taste on successive roasts. You'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.18692778]

I want to buy either Chemex or pic related. Which one would be better for my first pour over brewer?

[Anonymous No.18692784]

>>18692778
Picrel by a long shot

What kind of kettle do you have/planning to get

[Anonymous No.18692786]

>>18692778
the v60 easily, chemex papers are a pain in the dick. overly thick and prone to clogging. only benefit is looking nice.

[Anonymous No.18692792]

>>18692784
I was thinking about getting Hario's Drip Kettle Air because it's pretty cheap

[Anonymous No.18692794]

>>18692766
>>18692776
Thank you. This gives some more courage.
So, a bit like brewing beer. Test, adjust, learn, etc.
Im a bit excited to try out this roasting thing

[Anonymous No.18692798]

how are you supposed to pull off the hoffman meme brew with a full steel french press?

[Anonymous No.18692802]

>>18692794
Popper roaster is probably the best to start with.
https://www.sweetmarias.com/popper.html
Shame it's out of stock.

[Anonymous No.18692803]

>>18692798
Just do it?

[Anonymous No.18692805]

>>18692792
The air "kettle" is really just a tool to help you if all your kettles have dogshit flow. I've got a cheap regular electric kettle that has alright flow and it costs about as much as the air

[Anonymous No.18692806]

>>18692576
Go to sleep coldbro, it's time

[Anonymous No.18692807]

>>18692792
A chinese electric gooseneck with temp control can be had for not too much more, i'd just put that money towards one of those

[Anonymous No.18692808]

>>18692806
don't do this to me... it's only 2pm...

[Anonymous No.18692809]

>>18690868
interesting, i'm on 110 clicks. what water ratio do you use? i do 13:1.

[Anonymous No.18692815]

>>18692802
Might be. As an europoor I didnt have much choices available. But, if this hobby steals my heart, I'll upgrade it to something better

[Anonymous No.18692850]

>>18692421
You plug it in once and forget about it. The only issue was you could plug the power box into an outlet before the flair and short the controller if you weren't careful. Never in my life have I tried to plug in a live wire to a system, so it was just a bunch of retards frying their controller right off the bat. People do that shit with amplifiers too.

[Anonymous No.18692867]

>>18692803
but you can't see through

[Anonymous No.18692882]

>>18692808
It's midnight somewhere in the world

[Anonymous No.18692886]

>>18692807
NTA, but chink temp controlled goosenecks are at least 50 bucks from what I can tell, which is a fair bit more than the air or a regular electric kettle, and I'm not sure how much I'd trust them

[Anonymous No.18692890]

>>18692882
20oz of cold brewed robusta.. I'm tapped... share your energy with me bros...
btw to the anon who suggested i cold brew the Shock coffee i was gifted -- thank you, this bag will certainly not go to waste as i originally feared. it's not abhorrent but it's not good, but it is perfectly drinkable if grassy.

[Anonymous No.18692893]

>>18692890
No energy, sleepy time now

[Anonymous No.18692911]

>>18692794
Yep. It's not difficult. It just takes patience and persistence to get good at it. You can't miss first crack. It sounds like popcorn. Starts as a few random pops, then crescendos into a rolling pop, then slowly fades. Second crack is the threshold of dark roast. The beans go quiet for a little bit, then they crack again, but more softly like rice crispies.

My intuition tells me the Yirgacheffe will taste the best between a light roast (10-20 seconds from the first pops) to a medium (right in the middle of the rolling pops), and the Sumatra will taste best at a full city (darker side of medium, just as the middle of the your rolling first crack begins winding down) and a vienna (lighter dark roast, as soon as you hear the beginning of second crack).

[Anonymous No.18692930]

>>18692911
Checked.
I'll try your suggestions when I get my equipment, which should be tomorrow. K6 should arrive next week, so I'll get some experience on using that too.

[Anonymous No.18693063]

>>18692740
>Sumatra
Doesn't really matter how you roast them, they'll taste like burnt dirt anyways.

[Anonymous No.18693077]

>>18693063
If you call it a smokey earthy funk tastelets will pay you $16/250g.

[Anonymous No.18693093]

>>18693077
Too true bestie

[Anonymous No.18693113]

>>18692886
$50 for a kettle is a much better value than $20 for a plastic pitcher for use with hot water. If you can't see that I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.

[Anonymous No.18693128]

>>18693113
I seem to remember hario airs going for $10 or so somewhere, but my point was more that I'm not sure how much I'd trust some random chink kettle. Both for how healthy boiling water in the thing is and also how long it'd last, ali reviews don't tell you shit and looking up the branded versions of some kettles sold on amazon people complain about the temp control not working or shit like that. I think spending that money on a regular stovetop or electric non-controlled gooseneck kettle and a thermometer might be better. Can't say for sure though, haven't tried any of the ali express ones.

[Anonymous No.18693136]

>>18693128
>I'd trust some random chink kettle
Thats the reason to spring for the fellow or just get a jap made hario buono stovetop. You should probably know what type of steel you're drinking out of. Both are 304 18/8.

[Anonymous No.18693145]

>>18693128
You can get a bodum gooseneck no tc on amazon for $30. The hario pitcher is $17.50 right now. Throw in a thermometer and you're set.
>>18693136
Trying to sell a $150 kettle to someone who's considering pouring boiling water into plastic is unbelievable fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.18693181]

>>18692170
less actually
lactose free milk is naturally sweeter

[Anonymous No.18693186]

>>18692449
yummy pudding

[Anonymous No.18693193]

>>18693145
Hario sells more plastic v60s than the rest of them combined. They're pretty good at the whole boiling water into plastic thing. Water is a little different than acidic jagged coffee particles scraping along the inside of an estropress. Hario 304 stovetop will outlast that bodum's shit 430 all day.

[Anonymous No.18693205]

>>18693145
Can't get the bodum for that price in europe. The cheap kettle situation in my country is especially fucked. Best deal around I've found is an electric hario buono for 72€

[Anonymous No.18693210]

>>18692867
why would you need to? its just timing

[Anonymous No.18693214]

morning goffee after an all nighter.

[Anonymous No.18693215]

>>18693214
It's not morning if you didn't sleep

[Anonymous No.18693234]

>>18693215
morning
/ˈmɔːnJŋ/
Learn to pronounce
noun
the period of time between midnight and noon, especially from sunrise to noon.

sorry champ but i win this round

[Anonymous No.18693236]

>>18693181
where does the additional sweetness come from if you get rid of lactose?

[Anonymous No.18693268]

>>18693236
ok, so they don't really get rid of lactose, they just break it down into glucose and galactose

[Anonymous No.18693272]

>>18693193
I don't think plastic should be used in the brewpath at all you shadowboxing retard
>>18693205
That's grim mate, I'm sorry

[Anonymous No.18693320]

>>18693272
I don't think 430 should be used in the brewpath at all poorfag. Stop recommending shit kettles.

[Anonymous No.18693327]

>>18693193
>Water is a little different than acidic jagged coffee particles scraping along the inside of an estropress
holy fucking schizo

[Anonymous No.18693417]

>>18693268
>ok, so they don't really get rid of lactose
i mean it counts as getting rid of x if you convert it to y and w.

[Anonymous No.18693618]

[Anonymous No.18693629]

New bread
>>18693628
>>18693628
>>18693628