/ctg/ Coffee Time General

[Anonymous No.18605703]

The worst grinder money can buy edition

Thread for discussing coffee and coffee-related topics.

If you're new or confused, start here: https://pastebin.com/UEzwuyLz

Previous Thread:>>18594978

[Anonymous No.18605720]

>>18605703
thats my next grinder. it'll go well with my aeropress

[Anonymous No.18605732]

redpill me on McCafe

[Anonymous No.18605788]

>>18605703
this thread is just for me

[Anonymous No.18605900]

AEROPRESS GANG HAS THE HOTTWEST LADIES!
>>18605720
Sexy gyal

[Anonymous No.18605903]

>>18605732
The McDonalds of coffee.
>inb4 food analogy

[Anonymous No.18605944]

>>18605732
Allegedly good in Australia, hog piss everywhere else.

[Anonymous No.18605949]

I wouldo lick-eh some moah cawfee

[Anonymous No.18605997]

>>18605949
gwin tee

[Anonymous No.18606000]

Bet an Aeropress would make a mean cup of tea

[Anonymous No.18606009]

>>18606000
Trips of truth! Das rite!

[Anonymous No.18606059]

>>18606000
honestly
yeh probably.

[Anonymous No.18606101]

>>18605997
cawfee

[Anonymous No.18606103]

y-you wouldn't think naughty thoughts about coffee w-would you anon?

[Anonymous No.18606104]

>>18606101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTkfSH8kGNs
cow feet

[Anonymous No.18606110]

>>18606103
O-of course not...

[Anonymous No.18606123]

how easy is it to take apart and repair a baratza encore

[Anonymous No.18606128]

>>18606123
what is youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqie2xuhdO4
also baratza seems to have a whole series of videos about taking apart and repairing the encore

[Anonymous No.18606293]

>>18606128
>>18606123
Baratza are pretty based about letting people dick around inside their grinders without affecting warranty.

[Anonymous No.18606296]

Got completely mogged by the stuff they have at the roaster. Their Yirgacheffe was like drinking cherry juice, totally different from how it is at home when I make it.
Bought some Mandahiling Sumatra

[Anonymous No.18606333]

>>18605703
I prefer darker roasts because they extract easier in my espresso machine. No worries about chaff clogging up the portafilter

[Anonymous No.18606334]

>>18606296
You should look around for Bali Blue Moon

[Anonymous No.18606339]

>>18606334
The 5 sites I Yahdexed say it's chocolatey, not for me. I want something acidic tasting I can enjoy with no sugar or milk.
Sumatra I bought is also less fruity tasting, but I'm tired of only drinking Yirgacheffe

[Anonymous No.18606341]

>>18606339
panama geisha
nothing under $1 per bean

[Anonymous No.18606356]

>>18606341
Would be cool to have somewhere I can go to to have people make nice stuff like that to try.
I don't really have anything like that. Local roaster's best from that area is Honduran. Actually kinda kicking myself over not asking to try it when I was there earlier today

[Anonymous No.18606366]

>>18605703
I'm looking for an super automatic coffee machine. Why are "high end" machines so expensive? Is it just brand name?
Are entry level expensive machines worth it?
I'm looking specifically at Miele CM5310 Silence and Jura ENA 4, which are the cheapest one from these brands. What's so good about them?
My parents have been using a Delonghi Magnifica for 6 years now and the only problem I got with it so far is cleaning. There's always a shit ton of coffee inside which is a pain in the ass to clean. But as far as I can tell, it happens with every machine, so why pay double or more for one that will do the same?
I just want one that will last at least 10 years and makes 1 type of coffee the same way every time.
>inb4 don't get super automatic
I've been using mostly moka all my life and it's good enough for me, except for one thing: it needs cleaning after every use. I only do the dishes once a day and don't feel like cleaning it if I want more coffee. Maybe I should get a second moka...
Anyway, what's a good super automatic machine and why?
Thanks for reading my blog. I'll make a new thread maybe.

[Anonymous No.18606383]

>>18606366
don't get super automatic
> it needs cleaning after every use.
what the fuck are you talking about when you say "cleaning"
i use a moka 3 times a day and i only "clean" it one every 2 weeks.
after every use i dump the grounds and rinse it and wipe the top chamber with a paper towel to remove any oils.
do you consider this cleaning it? if you do then why do you consider this to be so hard that you even need to mention it.

[Anonymous No.18606446]

>>18606366
I have a mate who has had a Miele for six years now and it has been perfectly reliable but at the same time he has never been able to make it produce a coffee that he's happy with. YMMV, small sample and all that.

[Anonymous No.18606468]

>>18606383
>do you consider this cleaning it?
Yes, kind of. If I have to wet my hands then for me it's cleaning. And I need to remove all the coffee left inside so it's not bitter next time.
>>18606446
Thanks. I'm not that picky about coffee. But I am extremely lazy and want to avoid cleaning as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.18606477]

Ba da ba ba baaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.18606484]

>>18606468
why not just brew filter or get a drip machine. or even even capsules, just need to empty the pull out the tray at the end of the day, dump it and give it a quick clean.

[Anonymous No.18606491]

>>18606484
>brew filter or get a drip machine
They're not very common in Europe. Aren't they slow? I got used to make coffee in 2 minutes at most and can't go back now.
>capsules
That would be my last option. I don't mind spending money on a machine I can repair if it breaks but I can't stand spending money on expensive capsules every day. It's kind of retarded and maybe it's even cheaper in the long run, but it just doesn't sound right to me.

[Anonymous No.18606493]

>>18605788
>>18605900
>>18605944
>>18606000
>>18606333
>>18606366
>>18606477
CHECKED

[Anonymous No.18606625]

>>18606468
>I am extremely lazy and want to avoid cleaning as much as possible
ngmi
boutta pulla shot on my flair
Ethiopian Gedeb Worka Sakaro
Very delicate, almost tea like
good stuff

[Anonymous No.18606697]

>>18606366
i have a delonghi magnifica xs, it's alright but i got it for free so i can't complain.
>would have been like 900 dollars new in 2016ish
i wouldn't spend more than 500 on a super-automatic, once you cross that point you might as well drop 800ish for a GCP+$400 grinder

[Anonymous No.18606716]

>>18605944
it was decent for its price but now maccas prices are through the roof so may as well just go to the local coffee shop, there's like a dozen per suburb

[Anonymous No.18606864]

>>18606625
Sounds nice. I think I prefer aggressive flavors, even if they're aggressively bad tasting. More interesting I think

[Anonymous No.18606905]

I'm starting to get into coffee..just bought a new coffee maker. Brewed some this morning and it tastes like soap / plastic?? How is ideal black coffee supposed to taste bros

[Anonymous No.18606926]

Is swirling something you just have to do when making a v60 or is there some way to avoid it? I find it a rather uncomfy part of the whole experience because I'm always worried about spilling coffee.

[Anonymous No.18606932]

Turns out cold brew doesn't really salvage shit pre-ground coffee.
Ah well.

[Anonymous No.18606942]

>>18606932
>shit process doesn't salvage shit coffee
What a surprise.

[Anonymous No.18606993]

>>18606905
like coffee...
what type of coffee maker are you using? get something that's not plastic to begin with

[Anonymous No.18606997]

Just bought this.
https://www.redroostercoffee.com/products/ethiopia-uchoro-nansebo-washed
What do I think of it?

[Anonymous No.18607013]

>>18606864
You should try anaerobic fermentation. It’s flavor is like dialed up to 11, bit strong for me.
>>18606926
I’ve seen some videos advocating stirring with a spoon instead, though they don’t do exactly the same thing. I would just swirl and get used to it, if you fail you fail. At most you waste a tiny bit of coffee.

[Anonymous No.18607038]

>>18607013
>At most you waste a tiny bit of coffee
No I spill hot coffee all over my hands. Happened to me the first two times and it's why I'm always tense when doing it.

[Anonymous No.18607098]

>>18607038
I only swirl a little during bloom so there’s not even that much water inside. Initially I pick up the dripper to swirl, but you could also grip the circular base of the dripper and move it around the carafe opening to swirl it (granted I always under swirl this way, it’s more gentle and feels safer when I was starting out)

[Anonymous No.18607108]

My grinder's power supply went out and I'm shipping it back to Taiwan to get repaired. So I'm back to hand grinding for at least a month until that gets back, starting tomorrow when my K-Max gets here.

[Anonymous No.18607111]

>>18606942
What would YOU do then, GENIUS?

[Anonymous No.18607118]

>>18607038
>No I spill hot coffee all over my hands
how hard are you swirling wtf
it's supposed to be a gentle swirl there's like no way you could spill coffee over your hands doing that

[Anonymous No.18607154]

>>18607118
I brew into a cup, I initially swirled the dripper along with the cup because I'm dumb and since the cup was mostly full it spilled. I just swirl the dripper now but I'm still nervous about accidentally spilling some

[Anonymous No.18607155]

>>18606366
Man, i tried to tinker with a super auto i had at previous job at a staff kitchen. That brown pisswasser tasted like shit. Turns out they never cleaned its insides with decalc at all. After i had my way with it, people said that the coffee got way better, exceptional, better than a coffee shop, but it was pretty meh and they were buying some pricy decent shit. Prepared it separately in a gezve and it was night and day. I don't have any other auto machine to compare it to tho.

[Anonymous No.18607183]

>>18606491
>on expensive capsules every day
Buy a reusable metal one, refill yourself

[Anonymous No.18607219]

cheap drip coffee pot experiments

2 cups room temp water - 150 F
2 cups recirculated* water - 161 F
4 cups room temp water - 160 F
4 cups recirculated water - 170 F

*water run through the pot once without coffee or filter in the basket, then poured back through to make the coffee

[Anonymous No.18607239]

>>18606000
I've done it before

[Anonymous No.18607240]

>>18607219
Guessing more water = more heat retention. Best bet is still probably still just boiling the water in a pot and then putting it in the machine.

[Anonymous No.18607270]

this video came at a good time for me. i gotta drink preground for awhile. I set my preconceptions aside and picked up a few bags based off this video and local stock.
>Dunkin' - Original Blend
>Tim Hortons - Original Blend
>Community - American Blend
so far I've only had the Dunkin. I've only ever had shitty coffee from dunkin donuts so I was a little surprised to see him praise it at all. prepared in an aeropress with his recipe and boiling water.
this surely can't be the same stuff they sell in store, right? this coffee is downright pleasant. I've had their coffee maybe 3 times over the past 5 years and it's been piss. what the hell.

[Anonymous No.18607296]

>>18607240
It is.
There are two things happening here.

1. Water is being forced up the siphon faster due to the water taking less time to boil inside the tube that runs through heating element in the bottom of the pot. Less time in the tube = less time to cool down.
2. The plastic siphon tube runs through the reservoir in the back of the pot, which usually cools it down, but now since there is hot water in there there is much less cooling effect.

However, because the siphon is running faster that means it is pumping more coffee into the basket faster, which will influence the extraction in ways that would be hard to quantify. More water is piling up in the basket. Does this mean more will flow through the grounds faster? Does it mean the water temp will remain more stable?

I felt like the cups with the hotter water were overall better, but a bit more bitter.

[Anonymous No.18607303]

>>18607296
Could you try doing something to constrict the flow of water to slow it down?

[Anonymous No.18607330]

>>18606366
>>18606468
where do the grounds go?

[Anonymous No.18607333]

>>18607155
>tasted like shit until cleaned with decalc
yeah hard water makes scum out of oils and most people don't even realize it

[Anonymous No.18607339]

>>18607270
The beans are probably the same, but remember that most chain store employees don't want to be there and don't give a shit about their equipment or their quality of work. So they boil hard water, use dirty machines, over extract poorly ground beans, and cover it up with sugar and milk.

[Anonymous No.18607361]

>>18607339
that's gotta be it. shit, I could see myself drinking this well after I can go back to grinding my own beans

[Anonymous No.18607362]

I've been using an electric moka pot for like 5 years until it died. Is there any benefit to having a stovetop one?

Also, where does it rank vs. Pourover or aeropress?

[Anonymous No.18607363]

>>18607362
More control on stovetop, check out hoffmeme's technique, it's pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.18607406]

>>18607330
You mean the coffee beans? On the top usually.

[Anonymous No.18607411]

>pull a double in 50 seconds by accident
>shot looks and tastes better than anything I've made so far
explain

[Anonymous No.18607412]

>>18607330
>>18607406
Oh nvm, my English sucks.
There's a tray and a deposit on the bottom.

[Anonymous No.18607413]

>>18607411
nevermind I got to the bottom

[Anonymous No.18607415]

>>18607413
LMAO

[Anonymous No.18607416]

>>18607412
your english is fine, I could have been clearer. yes, I meant the used coffee beans.
that tray sounds like it would be really filthy collecting grounds for any real amount of time

[Anonymous No.18607421]

>>18607411
>>18607413
cute

[Anonymous No.18607427]

>>18607362
No.
I've been using electric for 10 years until it broke. Switched to stove top since Bialetti was shilled hard on here and it was meh. Got back to electric now.
It's faster, doesn't require adapters in case you go with aluminum and I already got used to it. Also, my induction stove doesn't detect the smallest mokas no matter what I try.

[Anonymous No.18607439]

>>18606366
>I only do the dishes once a day

[Anonymous No.18607445]

>>18607416
Yes, it can get really messy, at least on this machine which is the only one I tried so far >>18606491. Pic rel is an exaggeration, but it can get that bad if you never clean it thoroughly.
Also, if you leave the grounds on there for more than a week they get moldy really fast.

[Anonymous No.18607449]

>>18607445
jesus christ how horrifying

[Anonymous No.18607451]

>>18607439
But they never ask :(

[Anonymous No.18607490]

Another perfect cup courtesy of the Hario Switch

You guys were right

[Anonymous No.18607507]

>>18607490
whats the recipe

[Anonymous No.18607518]

>>18607451
They're not supposed to have to ask.

[Anonymous No.18607527]

>>18607490
How does a hario switch compare to a clever dripper?

[Anonymous No.18607551]

>>18607296
I want a Cheers coffee mug.
Are they good?

[Anonymous No.18607568]

>>18607507
Just been doing something simple. 16g/220g, 45g bloom closed, open at 30s. One fast center pour closed at 1m30. Open at 3:00, total time 3:30. Balanced, sweet and clear.
>>18607527
Besides being glass vs plastic, it takes v60 filters as opposed to the Kalita ones so you can use better filters (Sibarist, Cafec Abaca, Hario untabbed etc). I think you can buy other size v60s and fit them in if you want to make more coffee too

[Anonymous No.18607574]

>>18607551
a local shop has these. they are cozy.

[Anonymous No.18607581]

>>18605703
How do I get my girlfriend to stop spending shitloads of money at starbucks? She is addicted to expresso

[Anonymous No.18607593]

>>18607551
just get a Loveramics Hutch

https://www.loveramics.com/collections/diner-mugs/products/bond-250ml-hutch-mug-granite-carmel-gunpowder

[Anonymous No.18607599]

>>18607593

[Anonymous No.18607607]

>>18607581
by spending shitloads of money on a home espresso setup.

[Anonymous No.18607613]

>>18607599
I don't need more random cups and mugs but god damn I've been wanting a couple of these for a while.

[Anonymous No.18607622]

>>18607551
If it is a real diner mug it will cheat you on the amount of coffee you would expect it to hold. It can be a huge heavy mug but only hold 6 ounces of coffee.
Still nice to hold in the hand. Get one straight out of the hot dishwasher and fill it up for the true diner feel.

[Anonymous No.18607632]

Is french press coffee good?

[Anonymous No.18607637]

>>18607632
Done well, yeah there's a time and place for it. With a blade grinder and boiling water the way most people do it, probably not.

[Anonymous No.18607656]

>>18607362
Robust design and overall simplicity? They are easy to clean and work on a campfire if needed. That said I kinda want an electric one too.

[Anonymous No.18607690]

How do I achieve perfect coffee? I've got an Encore, I have a gooseneck with temperature control, I have a V60, I have fresh beans, but the coffee I make generally just tastes like coffee. I can pick out some tasting notes but I've never had the feeling of drinking "cherry juice" or something like that anon mentioned earlier ITT.

[Anonymous No.18607716]

What if u made coffee, but at night 8D

[Anonymous No.18607718]

>>18607593
$120 for a copycat of something I can get on ebay for $12 shipped.

[Anonymous No.18607728]

>>18605703
How concentrated can i make my french press coffee? I'm a bit sensitive to caffeine so I only use 7-10 grams of grounds to 3 dl water, I want to drink a really milky coffee and so I want to make the coffee as low volume as possible. What's the lowest ratio of water:beans possible with french press before you start to fail to extract as much as a normal size brew?

[Anonymous No.18607758]

>>18607632
drinking a large sip of the disgusting bitter sludge at the bottom of the french press cup will put hair on your chest and a spring in your step

[Anonymous No.18607769]

>>18607718
>$120
Hong kong dollars

[Anonymous No.18607793]

What's a good 2 cup pour over recipe?

[Anonymous No.18607797]

>>18607690
Different beans, most specialty coffee doesn't have super strong tasting notes and taste like different variations of the same thing.
>>18607728
Get some decaf beans and make a half-caf or quarter-caf blend. For your purposes though it sounds like an aeropress or a moka pot would serve you much better than a french press.

[Anonymous No.18607835]

>>18607793
Hoffmann's method

[Anonymous No.18607837]

>>18607793
Anything other than Hoffman's method.

[Anonymous No.18607854]

the secret third method that Hoffman created with everyone else on the planet

[Anonymous No.18607867]

>>18605703
How does one take care of a moka pot?
The Amazon review pictures suggest it's hard to care for or the reviewers are all idiots somehow.
I am interested in getting one.

[Anonymous No.18607874]

>>18607793
maybe

[Anonymous No.18607881]

>>18607867
Wash it frequently to prevent buildup but don't scrub the piss out of it.

[Anonymous No.18607909]

>>18607797
i don't want decaf, I want super caf just a very small amount

[Anonymous No.18607923]

>>18607867
The shape is a bit awkward to clean. You could get a stainless steel bialetti one, which I've heard is nicer to clean.

[Anonymous No.18607947]

>>18607909
10g of grounds might as well be decaf lmfao

[Anonymous No.18607950]

>>18607923
My sister has one of those and it's brown. No idea how since she's using induction but whatever. If it works, it works.
>>18607867
Just clean it after using it and change the rubber when needed. I change mine every year or so. I'd say it's also useful to descale the bottom container but I only did that once or twice in the last 10 years.

[Anonymous No.18607970]

>>18607947
it noticably picks me up

[Anonymous No.18608018]

[Anonymous No.18608025]

I investigated and to my eye I think Cheers used coffee mugs made by Ultima China. That seems about right considering the time frame and Cheers being a rather classy establishment with an old-fashioned aesthetic. Ultima is an old name brand. Really heavy duty stuff with thick walls.

There are similar mugs by Rego and ABC, but they have slightly smaller handles.

[Anonymous No.18608027]

>>18607632
cold brew into heated milk is better.

[Anonymous No.18608034]

>>18608018
>when you press the aeropress too hard

[Anonymous No.18608039]

[Anonymous No.18608045]

>>18608018
moka pot/perkeletor blew up?

[Anonymous No.18608049]

>>18607445
Why do people buy these pieces of shit?

[Anonymous No.18608066]

>>18608025
I would be wary drinking out of old glazed chinese ceramics

[Anonymous No.18608067]

>>18605732
The McCafe was founded in Melbourne, Australia, because nobody was buying the original peculated coffee that they used to sell here. Melbournians demand the best quality coffee so we reinvented the way McDonald's brewed and served coffee.

That's another reason why Melbourne is the coffee capital of the world.

[Anonymous No.18608070]

>>18608027
cold brew is fuckin great I love that shit

[Anonymous No.18608074]

>>18608066
Ultima is a reputable name brand used in thousands upon thousands of restaurants across North America. I'm sure you've eaten off of their stuff many times.
However, you should try to avoid anything made before the 50s because they used lead in the glaze on some of the very old mugs made in the 1910s and 1920s.
30s and 40s they phased it out but go 50s just to be sure.

[Anonymous No.18608084]

>>18607923
i just give it a good rinse between uses

>>18607950
>I change mine [rubber ring] every year or so
i've been using the same stainless steel moka pot for well over a decade and i've only needed to replace the rubber ring once and that was only because i stupidly stretched it to see if it could stretch. pro tip: don't try to stretch your rubber ring because it will stretch.

[Anonymous No.18608087]

>>18608074
Can you link to anything about them?

[Anonymous No.18608104]

>>18608084
Please clean that shit before posting it again. Have some fucking respect.

[Anonymous No.18608112]

>>18607835
>>18607837
>>18607874

[Anonymous No.18608120]

>>18608087
I don't see any fansites, but they have been a supplier of dinnerware for restaurants for decades. If you flip over the heavy oval plates in a sit-down non-buffet restaurant it's likely you'll find either the Buffalo or Ultima logo.

[Anonymous No.18608123]

>>18608104
i took the lid off because it was annoying me and ur mum likes it when i get dirty

[Anonymous No.18608133]

>>18608120
Yeah I can't find literally anything about them so I guess I'll take your word for it lol

[Anonymous No.18608143]

>>18608133
They are a copycat company that didn't innovate. They copied Victor mostly imo.
There might have been an original Victor brown stoneware diner mug shaped like that but most of them I've seen look like this (usually white).

[Anonymous No.18608159]

I changed my mind.
I think they are Rego brand because of the way the handles attach.
It's very important to get this right.

[Anonymous No.18608177]

>>18608123
Wipe a wet paper towel over that for a minute and post it. I want to see the filth.

[Anonymous No.18608184]

>>18608084
>>18608123
>i just give it a good rinse between uses
yeah so clearly that's not enough...

[Anonymous No.18608209]

>>18608074
I have some vintage pottery textbooks from the 1950's where all the glaze recipes in the appendix are lead fluxed. That shit is hilarious. This is when electric hobbyist kilns were fairly new. It wasn't until the 1950's to 1960's when studio potters finally got around to building high-fire gas kilns en masse which utilized potash and soda spars as fluxes. I have no idea how shit the formulations of industrial ceramic glazes were from that time. Probably not too bad though or the boomers would all be mentally retarded. Oh, wait.

[Anonymous No.18608212]

>>18608209
Late 50's, I mean.

[Anonymous No.18608221]

>>18607439
>Sex... needs to be done as soon as I ask
What type of coffee do I need to drink to get an anime girl like this

[Anonymous No.18608225]

>>18608221
Sumatra

[Anonymous No.18608250]

>>18608225
Isn't that a sex position

[Anonymous No.18608319]

Kama Pootra.

[Anonymous No.18608372]

Have you ever seen a nigger drinking coffee? Sounds like such a bizarre scenario.

[Anonymous No.18608386]

>>18608372
Crack keeps them awake far more than coffee ever could.

[Anonymous No.18608472]

>>18608159
Keep us posted, I want to buy the fruits of your labor.

[Anonymous No.18608605]

>>18607427
but how do you cool down the base?
how do you heat control?

[Anonymous No.18608672]

Any tips for using a camping percolator?

[Anonymous No.18608686]

>>18608123
At least decalcify it once in a while jfc

[Anonymous No.18608698]

>>18608672
Nobody likes it when Finns snipe at spawn.

[Anonymous No.18608702]

I just bought v60 + timemore c3 grinder and made a bunch of coffee tonight (ah... caffeine). I was actually surprised because the autists online are all like, "measure everything", "use gooseneck kettle", and "bad v60 is the worst", but I just winged it and it turned out pretty decent, and I did 3 in a row. Fingers crossed it keeps turning out alright so that I can treat my dear friends with some nice coffee.

[Anonymous No.18608897]

With a kingrinder k6, how many clicks are you guys using for a v60?

[Anonymous No.18608916]

>>18607581
>expresso

[Anonymous No.18608923]

>>18607716
ok now what

[Anonymous No.18608968]

>>18607867
brew
wait to cool down
dump grounds into bin
wash all the bits with water until you are satisfied
one every 2 weeks to 1 month depending on how much you use it and depending on the coffee you use do a deep clean like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZzPEdfkP08

for instructions on how to properly use a moka watch these videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfDLoIvb0w4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-PeYeiqPLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-C7azYybhE

also until i see a genuine scientific study on a large variety of soaps on every available moka pot that once and for all states whether soap actually damages a moka i will continue to use soap on mine.
also italians dont know anything about coffee aside from espresso.
i dont take anything italians say seriously.

[Anonymous No.18608979]

>>18608123
this is actually a crime
you should be stoned to death.

[Anonymous No.18609334]

Our thoughts?

[Anonymous No.18609362]

>tfw fewer natural process beans compared to two years ago because of all this fancy fermentation method trend
>tfw harder and harder to find natural strawberry bombs

[Anonymous No.18609472]

I stopped making coffee with my aeropress so I turned it into a bong instead.
Rip some fat ones while brewing coffee.

[Anonymous No.18609517]

>>18609472
Aeropress sisters... how do we keep losing?

[Anonymous No.18609565]

>>18609517
losing what this shit is lit nothing like pushing that plunger down and forcing a fucking cloud into you bro

[Anonymous No.18609655]

>>18608225
Based

[Anonymous No.18609669]

>>18608120
I grew up with those in the 90s, assumed they were from the 80s, and still have the matching bowl to this day that survived all the moves.

[Anonymous No.18609747]

>>18609362
Meme ferments are starting to piss me off too. I have to just buy washed everything now because every natural is now some retarded shit like "cranberry lemon lime macerated anaerobic natural process"

[Anonymous No.18609762]

>>18609747
i have not encountered any fermented coffee at all.
is this really that common.

[Anonymous No.18609821]

Freezing day. Got caught with my pants down last winter. Never again.

[Anonymous No.18609830]

>>18609762
Yes. I got raped by a bag of Costa Rican dragonfruit fermented anaerobic natural

[Anonymous No.18609844]

>>18609830
ok but what were you wearing?

[Anonymous No.18609850]

>>18609821
hmm
i feel like i have seen this surrounding area before
do you have a wug 2 or a flair.
also what beans

[Anonymous No.18609862]

Got a natural Kenyan from Volcanica coffee. The first thing I noticed about was that it wasnt nearly as fresh as what volcanica usually offers. The bag was roasted on the 7th and got to me yesterday. Normally they roast it when you order it immediately ship it. Not a huge deal since I would need to rest it but I like to drink as fresh as possible to see how the flavors change and develop over time. The coffee took a while to dial in but once I nailed it the flavors were really nice. The notes were cranberry, chocolate and spices. The spices was definitely just an aromatic thing and Im a little disappointed by that. The chocolate is closer to dark and really intense when the cup is hot and the cranberry really comes out when it cools. It's very acidic but not in a bad way. Some people in here said that Kenyans could be vegetabley/tomatoey but I don't get any of that at all. All in all its quite good but disappointing from the natural process aspect it's not that complex with really only two flavors coming through but it could just be a little old. I would recommend it if you're near Suwanee, Georgia and can get it soon after roasting.

[Anonymous No.18609867]

>>18608605
Kek.
>but how do you cool down the base?
You wait for it to cool down like anything else in this world.
>how do you heat control?
What heat control mate? You press the button, wait 1 minute and get your coffee. Unless you go up or down thousands of meters, you cannot change the laws of physics that establish the boiling temperature of water.

[Anonymous No.18609876]

>>18609762
i haven't encountered much. I've seen one roaster carry 1 meme ferment at most any given time, rest are washed or naturals or cheap blends. The mascarated fermentation columbian i had was pretty good though, but I don't care for the price bump.

[Anonymous No.18609883]

>>18609850
Yeah thats me. ~1500g from playing around with the popper*. Hopefully thats enough to last me though the winter while I gut it for modding.
https://www.allycoffee.com/coffees/monteblanco-purple-caturra-natural/
https://www.allycoffee.com/coffees/koke-honey/
https://thecaptainscoffee.com/products/ethiopia-yirgacheffe-gedeb-wuri-grade-zero-natural
https://thecaptainscoffee.com/products/costa-rica-hacienda-la-florida-gesha-natural
and a washed small farm organic guat

[Anonymous No.18609921]

*cough*

[Anonymous No.18609942]

>>18609867
you have never consumed real moka in your whole life.
see the error in your ways or kill yourself now.

[Anonymous No.18609955]

Help me /ctg/
My french press coffee is too acidic
Does this mean I should use cooler water and/or a shorter brew time?

[Anonymous No.18609959]

>>18607923
I have one of these. They're pretty easy to use, but keep 2 things in mind.
1) It will have some burnt coffee taste. This is hard to avoid, but it helps if you pull it right as it chucks up the last bits of coffee.
2) Because it's so hot when it finishes, if you add milk or cream to it, then you'll get a film of cooked milk proteins on top. You can skim them off with a spoon, but it's still gross.

I bought it cause it's like a regular moka pot but without the alzheimer's.

[Anonymous No.18609960]

>>18609955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st571DYYTR8

[Anonymous No.18609962]

>>18608084
What have you done to the poor thing?
WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR LID?

[Anonymous No.18609984]

>>18609942
Yet here I am, enjoying my moka coffee every morning. Maybe if you enjoyed your coffee too, you wouldn't be so bitter.

[Anonymous No.18610025]

>>18609844
It was slutty but it wasn't my fucking fault okay

[Anonymous No.18610042]

>>18609959
>1) It will have some burnt coffee taste.
if you dont know how to use it
>2) Because it's so hot when it finishes, if you add milk or cream to it,
why the fuck would you add cold milk to hot coffee, are you mentally retarded?

[Anonymous No.18610051]

>>18609984
i enjoy my moka because i know how to use it.
you dont.
millions literal brain dead scum fucks drink and enjoy objectively shit coffee every day.
you are one of them

[Anonymous No.18610075]

>>18609960
Hmm, tried it with his suggested 15g of beans and 250mL water and it's a bit weak. Not getting the orgasm the yt comments section is having.
I'll need to try it again but stronger and with the beans I usually get

[Anonymous No.18610081]

>>18610051
coffee is for faggots anyway

[Anonymous No.18610086]

>>18610081
>you are bad at x
>but i like x
>no you bad at x
>x is bad anyway so who cares

[Anonymous No.18610087]

>>18610075
dont you just let it sit longer if you want stronger french press?
idk i have never used one.

[Anonymous No.18610089]

>>18610087
over extraction bro

[Anonymous No.18610095]

>>18610089
The youtube video lets it sit for 9+ minutes
That's pretty extracted

[Anonymous No.18610096]

>>18610089
he said it was weak which means not enough coffee per coffee and we all know if you want more coffee per coffee you want more extraction.
basic goffee maths bro.

[Anonymous No.18610101]

>>18610051
>objectively shit coffee
There's nothing objective about it Anon. Taste is the most subjective thing in the world. I like my coffee and enjoy it, even if you don't.

[Anonymous No.18610106]

>>18610042
>if you dont know how to use it
You're a fucking dipshit who's obviously never used these things. I've grabbed them as they finish and the coffee still tastes burnt. And I heat it on the burner on medium only to avoid giving the thing a lot of heat stress.

>why the fuck would you add cold milk to hot coffee, are you mentally retarded?
No, but you are, shithead. I do it to cool the fucking coffee down.

[Anonymous No.18610113]

I need caffiene to give me energy sometimes but I don't like how coffee tastes so I only ever drink Frappuccinos.

[Anonymous No.18610114]

>>18610106
>I do it to cool the fucking coffee down.
you know what else does this? time, just fucking wait 5 minutes for it to cool down you impatient rat.
here watch these videos i linked in this other post, clearly you have no fucking clue how to use a moka.
>>18608968

[Anonymous No.18610117]

>>18610113
>>>/ck/tea

[Anonymous No.18610118]

>>18610113
take caffeine pills instead.

[Anonymous No.18610122]

>>18608968
you fell for so many memes goddammit
you have to go back

[Anonymous No.18610124]

>>18610101
>there is no wrong way to cook x i cook it (wrong) however i like and i like the taste.

[Anonymous No.18610125]

>>18610117
Tea doesn't have caffeine in it.

[Anonymous No.18610132]

>>18610125
>doesn't
it doesnt have much but some tea does have caffeine in it.
also i could be wrong but some teas have other energy or stimulating chemicals.

[Anonymous No.18610135]

>>18610122
>i just btfo and i dont know how to respond without sounding mad so im just going to say the meme
enjoy your burnt coffee bro.

[Anonymous No.18610160]

>>18610125
What?
>Tea leaves contain 3.5% caffeine, while coffee beans have 1.1–2.2%. However, the coffee brewing process uses hotter water, which extracts more of the caffeine from the beans. Typically, you also use more coffee beans than you’d use tea leaves for a drink (12).

[Anonymous No.18610165]

What's the difference between a frappe and a mocha?

[Anonymous No.18610174]

>>18610165
>frappe
"A frappé coffee, Greek frappé, Nescafé frappé, or just frappé is a Greek iced coffee drink made from instant coffee, water, sugar, and milk."


>mocha
"Like café latte, caffè mocha is based on espresso and hot milk but with added chocolate flavouring and sweetener, typically in the form of cocoa powder and sugar. Many varieties use chocolate syrup instead, and some may contain dark or milk chocolate.

Caffè mocha, in its most basic formulation, can also be referred to as hot chocolate with (e.g., a shot of) espresso added. Like cappuccino, caffè mochas typically contain the distinctive milk froth on top; as is common with hot chocolate, they are sometimes served with whipped cream instead. They are usually topped with a dusting of either cinnamon, sugar or cocoa powder, and marshmallows may also be added on top for flavour and decoration."

[Anonymous No.18610276]

>>18609960
why doesn't he start with just a bit of water for the first 30 seconds? Is it some noob trap?

[Anonymous No.18610313]

>>18610276
the fact that you even have to ask...

[Anonymous No.18610314]

>>18610276
I’m guessing it’s because French press Is immersion brewing, time is gonna do the work. It has all the time to soak through the coffee and have stuff extract into the water, any gas release wouldn’t really matter if you just stir it a little.
>>18610075
Try a higher ratio (use more grounds for same amount of water) to increase strength

[Anonymous No.18610336]

>>18605703
What type of coffee cup do you guys like to use?

What's better for on the go? Metal or plastic?

[Anonymous No.18610346]

>>18610336
for lattes I use glass since it doesn't heat up in the microwave when I heat my milk up
for everything else, ceramic or porcelain or whatever it's called
>What's better for on the go? Metal or plastic?
plastic sounds bad and I'm not even a microplastic cuck
it will get uglier than this Anon's moka >>18608123 after two days

[Anonymous No.18610350]

>>18605703
Any ozfags here. Which site in the Pastebin do you use and which beans do you recommend?

[Anonymous No.18610352]

>>18610336
i use a handmade artisan ceramic cup.
but sometimes it kinda smells even though i am extremely thorough at cleaning.
so then i just use a $1 glass cup i got 25 years ago from a second hand store.

[Anonymous No.18610353]

>>18610350
i saw you in the /tv/ thread you dog cunt.

[Anonymous No.18610432]

In a cup I add some instant coffee, little sugar and fill it in with milk, I microwave it for 2 mins or so then I stir it.
wa la

[Anonymous No.18610434]

>>18607518
don't arouse my anger

[Anonymous No.18610439]

>>18610432
thats more complex than anything any tea drinker will ever do.

[Anonymous No.18610505]

>>18610350
I buy from Five Senses, they're not in the pastebin but they're pretty quick and reliable on shipping, they have a good core of bean varieties but also a good amount of turnover which works for me cos I have a short attention span. Which do I recommend is an open question - how are you going to brew it and what do you like in a coffee?

[Anonymous No.18610517]

>>18610336
generally glass, sometimes ceramic.

[Anonymous No.18610526]

>>18610505
Well I just drink it black no sugar and only really drink lavazza/aurora from Woolies

I don't know what I should be looking for? People in these threads and the Pastebin make it sound like not buying regular supermarket stuff is absolutely life changing so I kind of want to try it out. What would you recommend for a "beginner" or somehting more neutral?

And do I really need to spend $150aud on a grinder? I saw the recommended ones here and they seem to be that price locally lol

[Anonymous No.18610529]

I can't tell if these aeropress posts are sarcastic. Does it actually work well or is it a meme because it looks like a low quality plastic substitute for a french press?

[Anonymous No.18610535]

>>18610505
Oh and I use an aeropress btw but I also have a moka pot that I used to mainly use

>>18610529
Ive been using one for the past year which I replaced from the moka pot. It basically is like a French press but you press it directly into your cup. I really like it and find it convenient because how easy it is to clean.

Just open up the straining cap and pop the coffee out directly into the bin. Then rinse the unit out. No scraping things out or having to wait for it to cool down before doing so. It's just really convenient imo

[Anonymous No.18610555]

>>18609962
My lid broke one day while I was washing it. I fixed it but after several months it broke again and it has been like that ever since... Shit happens.

[Anonymous No.18610565]

Hoffee time
https://youtu.be/1oB1oDrDkHM

[Anonymous No.18610590]

>literally just five-pour
HOFFMEME TECHNIQUE RETARDS ITS OVER

https://youtu.be/1oB1oDrDkHM

[Anonymous No.18610591]

>>18605703
What's the best coffee making method if you need to make coffee for multiple people like guests?

[Anonymous No.18610595]

>>18610591
French press

[Anonymous No.18610599]

>>18610590
Kinda similar to 4:6 but with finer grind… even down to the swirl at the end to even the bed

[Anonymous No.18610606]

>>18610529
the hoff likes it so it has to be good

[Anonymous No.18610611]

>>18610565
>>18610590
his initial swirl yuck
>>18610599
multi-pour chads we made him concede
>>18610606
he also likes moka pot lmao

[Anonymous No.18610612]

>>18610599
Also pulsing instead of waiting for each pour to draw down.

[Anonymous No.18610614]

>>18610611
>he also likes moka pot lmao
yeh he likes the best coffee making method

[Anonymous No.18610621]

>>18610614
he just pretends to like accessible normslop shit to increase his reach

[Anonymous No.18610625]

>>18610621
which is why most of his videos are on espresso and pour over. just doing what normie dumb fucks like.

[Anonymous No.18610628]

>>18610625
>he doesn't understand what accessible means
the chinese metal is ruining you lol

[Anonymous No.18610631]

>>18610590
>he under swirled and then over swirled
hoffee bros...

[Anonymous No.18610639]

>made espresso panna cotta yesterday (3 shots of espresso, 5 tablespoons sugar, 1.5 cups half and half, gelatin) and had one for breakfast in place of a shot of espresso
breakfast of champions

[Anonymous No.18610689]

Why does every natural I get taste infinitely better than every washed I’ve had?

[Anonymous No.18610691]

>>18610595
What's the best french press to get?

Like what is bialetti (for moka pots) of french presses?

And which is the size to get if t
You are making 2 or 3 coffees

[Anonymous No.18610717]

>>18610691
espro. it really is the best you can get. almost no grit I really love mine

[Anonymous No.18610748]

i ran out of goffee

[Anonymous No.18610752]

>>18610748
Impossible

[Anonymous No.18610774]

>>18610639
Last time I tried to make Pannacota the buttermilk separated and it came out a yucky grey slime with white spots :/

[Anonymous No.18610781]

What's a good coffee creamer that's lactose free doesn't clog your arteries, and doesn't compromise on taste? I know I'm trying to find a unicorn here... and before you say just drink black, I might as well drink tea at that point.

[Anonymous No.18610819]

Anyone want an EG-1 for 2k? Going to sell mine and buy a P-100.

[Anonymous No.18610827]

>>18610781
I don't know where you live you dumb stupid nigger no what selection you have available. why don't you just go to the store and buy every single cuck creamer and find out for yourself?

[Anonymous No.18610883]

>>18610748
Always keep some trash as a backup or some good shit frozen.

[Anonymous No.18610886]

>>18610611
>>18610631
What's wrong with his swirls?
t. clueless

[Anonymous No.18610888]

>>18610535
>>18610526
Honestly you can do what most of us have done at some point and buy a cheap grinder for thirty or fifty bucks but there's a fairly decent chance that you'll end up spending the money on a better one anyway, so I would really suggest spending once. There genuinely is a huge amount of difference from the really cheap to the kinda cheap to the affordable to the expensive in grinders, it's probably the most influential bit of gear you'll buy in coffee.

In terms of "beginner" stuff, anything that talks about chocolate, and toffee, and caramel in the flavour notes is going to be easy and approachable, won't be super far removed from drinking supermarket coffee in terms of the kind of notes you expect. I personally prefer light roasted stuff for filter with floral and fruity descriptors but it might be worth your while to try something like their Santo Antonio as a first port of call.

[Anonymous No.18610931]

>>18610625
Who died and made you Cunt of the Week?

[Anonymous No.18610978]

1zpresso JX pro worth it for 140 eurodollars or should I be looking for something else? I have an old hario skerton but that I'd like to retire and I assume that this would be a considerable upgrade over that.

[Anonymous No.18610981]

>>18610978
I mostly use a moka pot to brew my coffee btw.

[Anonymous No.18611007]

>>18610978
It's great. You won't believe the difference with your hario

[Anonymous No.18611100]

>>18607728
You could go to like 0.1g and 100000L of water and extract those 10 beans very well. Immersion brews don't really care about ratio like a pour over or espresso does.

[Anonymous No.18611115]

>just came back from uni after cycling through mud and rain
>want to have a nice cup of coffee to make my evening a bit more pleasant
>it's too late for coffee

[Anonymous No.18611133]

>>18610590
Why does he use plastic...

[Anonymous No.18611141]

>>18611133
He says it in the video. Easier to preheat.

[Anonymous No.18611158]

>>18611115
No such thing.

[Anonymous No.18611163]

>>18611158
I need to go to sleep in like 3 and a half hours.

[Anonymous No.18611170]

>>18611115
Why do foreigners call it "uni"? It's like something a literal faggot would call it

[Anonymous No.18611172]

>>18610774
>buttermilk
that's probably the problem, panna cotta is half&half/cream, sugar, and gelatin + flavorings

[Anonymous No.18611178]

>>18611170
who knows. then they'll turn around and say education in america sucks despite 90% of the top 50 colleges being american and them going to some technical college for their town of 15k

[Anonymous No.18611179]

>>18611170
Because it's a university?

[Anonymous No.18611195]

>>18610565
>>18610590

>0m00s: Pour 50g of water to bloom
>0m10s - 0m15s: Gently Swirl
>0m00s - 0m45s: Bloom
>0m45s - 1m00s: Pour up to 100g total (40% total weight)
>1m00s - 1m10s: Pause
>1m10s - 1m20s: Pour up to 150g total (60% total weight)
>1m20s - 1m30s: Pause
>1m30s - 1m40s: Pour up to 200g total (80% total weight)
>1m40s - 1m50s: Pause
>1m50s - 2m00s: Pour up to 250g total (100% total weight)
>2m00s - 2m05s: Gently swirl
>Drawdown should finish around 3:00, but expect some variance here. Taste is the most important thing!
ultimate meme technique.

i'm sticking to my small bloom pour then one big pour. simple as.

[Anonymous No.18611206]

>>18611179
Ok so head off to UNI wearing your panties and grab some fishy and chips before class fag

[Anonymous No.18611209]

>>18611206
Why do americans obsess over foreigners so much?

[Anonymous No.18611210]

>>18611178
This man fucks

[Anonymous No.18611213]

>>18611209
I'm not American you retard lmao

[Anonymous No.18611242]

>>18611172
Yeah it was a buttermilk type drink and too much lemon juice last time. Absolutely botched it
Still ate it but it was icky

[Anonymous No.18611278]

>>18611007
I figured as much but I think I'm going with a regular JX since I'm not planning on ever getting an actual espresso machine.

[Anonymous No.18611299]

>>18610590
yoooo it's like this video was made for me i bought the plastic v60 to make single cup brews a few days ago
thanks hoff

[Anonymous No.18611325]

>>18611278
Both are fine, the difference is jsut 20€ anyway

[Anonymous No.18611371]

>>18611325
40€ in this case

[Anonymous No.18611434]

>>18606932
I got the smooth operator preground from whole foods and made some cold brew that was solid. Next day made a chemex pourover with it, took two sips, and dumped it. Really depends on the kind of bad for what you can do to make it taste better.

[Anonymous No.18611443]

Got a Classic Pro coming in on Friday. What are some upgrades/tools to consider?

[Anonymous No.18611591]

>>18611443
Basket, tamper, dosing collar, wdt tool, microfiber towels for wiping baskets, gagguino.
Pullman for baskets, normcore for tamp and collar, etsy wdt tools.

[Anonymous No.18611767]

>>18611443
>>18611591
Gaggiuino is your GOAT upgrade, it provides everything from pressure control, pressure control profiles, temp control, etc.
The only problem is that it takes a bit to install

[Anonymous No.18611798]

I grind my beans right before I use them and then plop them into the French press with boiling water, wait a few minutes, give it a stir, and then fill the remainder of the press with water. Am I fucking with my coffee by using boiling water rather than waiting for it to cool for a few minutes?

[Anonymous No.18611809]

For your average coffee enjoyer, is there any point to getting anything more than pic related? Been grinding my beans and using the dripper for a while now, and it works and tastes just fine, but people have recommended machines and various other coffee makers.
I just like a normal cup of black coffee

[Anonymous No.18611822]

>>18611809
Chemex is one of the worst pourover cones you can get lol. Massively thick filters strip a bunch of flavor out of your cup + the filters stick to the walls and choke giving you a fucked up flow rate.

[Anonymous No.18611827]

>>18606110
LEWD

[Anonymous No.18611829]

>>18611822
thats not what i use, just what google images had to offer. I use some generic brand unbleached coffee filters, something like these.

[Anonymous No.18611848]

>>18611829
Yes there is absolutely a point to changing your fucked up setup. Just a couple threads ago we had a guy who was sticking grocery store filters in one of these and praying for the best. He got a v60 and seemed real happy and said he was going to order some cafec papers to try vs the shitty hario browns.
https://www.bodum.com/us/en/11571-109-pour-over

[Anonymous No.18611852]

>>18611848
I see, i'll check it out, thanks.

[Anonymous No.18611877]

>>18611852
Theres a million different drippers(with different flows) you might like, flat or cone, the v60 is just cheap and available.