/tea/ Yerba Mate Edicion

[Anonymous No.18587484]

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[Anonymous No.18587489]

>>18587484
>yerba m8

[Anonymous No.18587497]

Please recommend some good brands for people who want to try yerba mate.

[Anonymous No.18587533]

>>18587497
I started with Rosamonte Suave, which is quite mild and easy to filter, so good for a start
I would also reccomend Cruz de Malta (nice mild grassy taste but a good kick).
for Paraguayan mate Pajarito is usually cheap and I like it a lot, probably the best starter. Indega is noteworthy for the unique earthy note that reminds me of shu pu-erh a bit, haven't felt it in any other mate. Colon is extra smoky, Fede Rico has an interesting creamy sweetness in the later steepings...
I haven't had that much Uruguayan mate, but Del Cebador was great

I think that's it for my reccs cause I haven't tried much brazilian yerba mate

[Anonymous No.18587535]

>>18587533
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.18587537]

>>18587535
ah, and Kraus is a good try too because it's dried with hot air AFAIK, so has a bit of a different flavor

[Anonymous No.18587542]

>heavily smoked yerba drank hot through a cheap bombilla
who else /cancermaxxing/

[Anonymous No.18587547]

Why does ys use desiccants in their puerh cake bags when shipping, wont that dry out the tea?

[Anonymous No.18587550]

>>18587497
https://www.amazon.com/Merced-Campo-Yerba-Mate-units/dp/B078SDGRJ6

https://www.amazon.com/Yerba-Rosamonte-Argentina-Green-Herbal/dp/B001UKFN24/

https://www.amazon.com/Multicolour-Stainless-Drinking-Excellent-Sophisticated/dp/B0BM91YRT2/

https://www.amazon.com/Bar%C3%A3o-Cotegipe-Yerba-Mate-Chimarr%C3%A3o/dp/B09HN8VPJR

https://www.amazon.com/Barao-Yerba-Mate-Premium-Blend/dp/B009UV5CG2/

[Anonymous No.18587558]

>>18587497
https://www.amazon.com/Merced-Campo-Yerba-Mate-units/dp/B078SDGRJ6

https://www.amazon.com/Yerba-Rosamonte-Argentina-Green-Herbal/dp/B001UKFN24/

https://www.amazon.com/Multicolour-Stainless-Drinking-Excellent-Sophisticated/dp/B0BM91YRT2/

https://www.amazon.com/Bar%C3%A3o-Cotegipe-Yerba-Mate-Chimarr%C3%A3o/dp/B09HN8VPJR

https://www.amazon.com/Barao-Yerba-Mate-Premium-Blend/dp/B009UV5CG2/

https://www.amazon.com/Yerba-CBSe-Argentina-Green-Natural/dp/B001UKSOAW/

[Anonymous No.18587562]

>>18587537
The couple brands that are sold in grocery stores in the US are air dried and organic, i guess they would all be called suave in south america. The weird thing about them is that some of them are not aged because that think that preserves more vitamins and minerals. I haven't tried one in years so i don't know if they are any good.

[Anonymous No.18587575]

>>18587562
idk, most of the unaged stuff I've tried was one dimensional and too vegetal / grassy for my tastes. I tend to prefer the smoky, long aged, fionely ground paraguayan stuff so the other end of the yerba spectrum lol

[Anonymous No.18587577]

>>18587497
https://lac2b.com/products/copy-of-3-pak-yerba-mate-taragui-1-kilo-2-2-lbs-sin-palo-without-stems

[Anonymous No.18587582]

>>18587497
not usually a fan of herbal mixes, but turns out mate goes pretty well with chamomile, it's a surprisingly tasty combo

[Anonymous No.18587583]

>>18587577
Yes i don't need 24 kilos of mate, at least not yet

[Anonymous No.18587588]

>>18587575
Yeah, Amercians are scared of the smoked stuff because they found out it has smoke in it and they think its going to give them cancer. Gotta get all the good yerba from specialty import stores.

[Anonymous No.18587597]

>>18587582
That does sound like a pretty good combo
Probably good for the afternoon

[Anonymous No.18587599]

>>18587588
odd that they're not afraid of barbeque, which has way more smoke in it lol
maybe they don't like the taste as well

[Anonymous No.18587605]

>>18587497
La Merced 3kg $24
https://www.amazon.com/Merced-Campo-Yerba-Mate-units/dp/B078SDGRJ6

Rosamonte 3kg $25
https://www.amazon.com/Yerba-Rosamonte-Argentina-Green-Herbal/dp/B001UKFN24/

Bombilla $2
https://www.amazon.com/Multicolour-Stainless-Drinking-Excellent-Sophisticated/dp/B0BM91YRT2/

CBSe Mountain Herbs (mint flavored) 3kg $25
https://www.amazon.com/Yerba-CBSe-Argentina-Green-Natural/dp/B001UKSOAW/

Cruz de Malta 3kg $22
https://www.amazon.com/Cruz-de-Malta-3-Kilos/dp/B004OPAI5E

Taragui no stems 20kg $81
https://lac2b.com/products/copy-of-3-pak-yerba-mate-taragui-1-kilo-2-2-lbs-sin-palo-without-stems

Barão de Cotegipe terere .5kg $8
https://www.amazon.com/Bar%C3%A3o-Cotegipe-Yerba-Mate-Chimarr%C3%A3o/dp/B09HN8VPJR

Barão de Cotegipe Premium 1kg $12
https://www.amazon.com/Barao-Yerba-Mate-Premium-Blend/dp/B009UV5CG2/

CBSe Guarana .5kg $5
https://www.amazon.com/CBSe-0102371-GUARANA-FLAVOR-ENERGIA/dp/B01ETFETTE/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=cbse&m=A3BVAI7O8XCATX&qid=1668641808&s=merchant-items&sr=1-4

Playadito 3kg $26
https://www.amazon.com/Circle-Drink-Playadito-Yerba-Mate/dp/B081MY3RRR/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=playadito&m=A3BVAI7O8XCATX&qid=1668641865&s=merchant-items&sr=1-3

La Merced Barbacua .5kg $7
https://www.amazon.com/MERCED-Barbacua-Cosecha-Limitada-500gr/dp/B014KSCA14/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=merced&m=A3BVAI7O8XCATX&qid=1668641926&s=merchant-items&sr=1-2

[Anonymous No.18587620]

>>18587599
Its really stupid, the people that got really into mate initially, other than south American immigrants that brought it with them, were all health nuts who decided that yerba mate was more healthy than coffee. Then a few studies got done that said oh btw smoked yerba contains cancer causing chemicals just like all other smoked foods, and they kinda freaked out and now will only buy air dried organic stuff. Its stupid, im sure those same people aren't afraid of burnt toast or food cooked on a grill.

[Anonymous No.18587626]

>>18587605
Thanks for the links anon.
I found an even cheaper stainless gourd on aliexpress. I will probably order one soon.
https://aliexpress.com/item/3256802132584328.html

[Anonymous No.18587632]

[Anonymous No.18587642]

>>18587632
Doesn't yerba just mean herb?

[Anonymous No.18587704]

What is the appeal to yerba mate anyway? How would anons who have tried a variety explain it from the perspective of someone who just drinks camelia sinensis? I imagine there is some variety in whatever notes mate has between brands, but I don't even know what to think in general because I've never had it. No idea how potent it is by comparison, or what effects it may have.

[Anonymous No.18587726]

>>18587620
>air dried organic stuff. I
This doesn't sound bad, do you know what brands make it?

[Anonymous No.18587750]

>>18587642
yeah most brazillians I know just call it maté

[Anonymous No.18587765]

>>18587726
The common brands i see in grocery stores are guayaki, mate factor, eco teas. Also Anna Park is really popular in the US but that's not an American brand.
Some other south American air dried brands are mate & co, kraus, i think porongo, and im sure there are a few more.
If you want the facy stuff just get anna park or mate & co.

[Anonymous No.18587820]

I don't see any reason why you couldn't just gongfu brew yerba mate in a gaiwan, the end result would be pretty much identical to what you get when you drink mate the traditional way in a gourd with a bombilla.

[Anonymous No.18587821]

>>18587704
>>18587632
I yerbaposted a lot here, I didn't start the trend but I simply bought a lot of inexpensive yerba due to the recent price decreases due to the strong USD and probably weak Argentina currency and I assume cheap yerba is why it's popular here at the moment.

Yerba is sweet, upfront and almost soda-like compared to tea. But it's still a plant infusion beverage like tea is.
La Merced tastes like an upfront Dong Ding.
Aged yerba has so many flavors all at once that it's almost sensory overload and normalfags just find it gross. The fermentation makes it fresh bread-like.

If you drink tea and coffee or just open-minded to flavor, you will appreciate the acquired taste of yerba. Taste-wise yerba and tea are way too different to compare but /tea/ welcomes discussion of all plant-in-water beverages minus coffee which has its own general. I drink all three, hibiscus and more.

[Anonymous No.18587836]

>>18587704
With good yerba mate the buzz is pretty nice, at least with some brands it feels more energetic instead of just stimulating and you get a bit of a floaty head buzz too sometimes.

[Anonymous No.18587838]

>royal mail has received your parcel and will be out for delivery tomorrow

[Anonymous No.18587851]

>>18587820
Gaiwans aren't large enough for yerba but you can gongfu it using a tea infuser basket and a row of mugs or a french press. Steep for 30 seconds or until the water is amber. If water is green, it's too much.

[Anonymous No.18587856]

>>18587836
Not the other guy but https://yerba-mate.com/pages/health.html
I think most of the effect comes from magnesium. Toss and wash a pinch of epsom salt and see if you feel a body high. That means you need more magnesium.

[Anonymous No.18587863]

Would I do bad if I only ordered organic tea?

[Anonymous No.18587870]

>>18587856
Not that anon
I guess i will find out, im getting some yerba soon and i already take a magnesium supplement so i will see if i still get any effect like that.

[Anonymous No.18587886]

>>18587863
Contrary to what you might expect organic certification is a complex process that is hard for small farmers to get certified. So if you only buy organic teas you will mostly be getting teas from large commercial scale intensive farming operations.
That said if it makes you feel better its not going to hurt, and there is also plenty on non organic tea from these large industrial tea plantations so im not saying organic is somehow worse than the average.
Another way to answer would be it depnds on what tea you are buying, some organic farms are much better quality than others just like with conventional farms.

[Anonymous No.18587900]

>>18587704
>>18587533
La Hoja and Cruz de Malta taste most like black tea imo. Cruz is very bitter in a good way and the flavor is deep and transforms. That and Rosamonte Special are my favorites if I want to sit down and think about it.

[Anonymous No.18587921]

>>18587900
Have you had cruz de malta especial? Im wondering how it's different to the regular version.

[Anonymous No.18587935]

>>18587886
>some organic farms are much better quality than others
Any recs?

[Anonymous No.18587940]

>>18587935
What kind of tea are you interested in? Any shops in mind?

[Anonymous No.18587945]

>>18587921
>wide leaf special selection
I didn't even know about this.

[Anonymous No.18587962]

>>18587940
Black mostly but would like to try out green, any US based/shipping

[Anonymous No.18588014]

>>18587962
This firat white tea should be a nice rounded Chinese black tea not so strong and malty
https://yunnansourcing.us/products/certified-organic-yunnan-black-tea?_pos=1&_sid=462eb605c&_ss=r
This second one is more of a malty robust style black kinda like English breakfast
https://yunnansourcing.us/products/certified-organic-yunnan-golden-snail-black-tea?_pos=4&_sid=462eb605c&_ss=r
Don't buy too much green tea in the winter, wait till the spring harvest so its fresh pick one two dry based on which description sounds good, make sure to brew with 80°c water
https://yunnansourcing.us/products/wu-liang-mountain-mao-feng-yunnan-green-tea?_pos=16&_sid=462eb605c&_ss=r
https://yunnansourcing.us/products/certified-organic-yunnan-mao-feng-green-tea?_pos=3&_sid=462eb605c&_ss=r
https://yunnansourcing.us/products/certified-organic-yunnan-jade-dragon-green-tea?_pos=7&_sid=462eb605c&_ss=r
Maybe try some white tea
https://yunnansourcing.us/products/certified-organic-yunnan-moonlight-white-white-tea?_pos=12&_sid=462eb605c&_ss=r
I can't promise they are all amazing teas but they should be nice

[Anonymous No.18588017]

>>18588014
>This firat white tea should be
*this first tea should be

[Anonymous No.18588060]

>>18587821
How many grams are used in a typical session, and is storage of the maté similar to tea? Does the gourd make much of a difference vs a mug? I looked up some vids about it, and it seems less stressful and costly compared to coffee, perhaps similar in comfort to tea. I mostly glanced over the huge maté haul pics before since I'm used to tea, but I will admit that it's interesting. Doesn't seem too expensive to try either.

[Anonymous No.18588105]

>>18587620
>Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon (PAH) is a known carcinogen
>Yerba mate tea contains PAH, a known carcinogen also found in grilled meat and tobacco smoke.
>Oxidative stress following PAH exposure could also result in cardiovascular disease by causing inflammation,
Adding onto your notion, the antioxidants/nutrients in yerba will outweigh the smoke, and even more so if the iodine in yerba is substantial.

[Anonymous No.18588106]

As dirty argie scum, this edition of the general pleases me even if I've never read or posted anything here.

[Anonymous No.18588180]

>>18588060
A session will use 30-50g of yerba (200-500mg caffeine). 30g if using infuser basket or french press, 50g if traditional or gongfu (multiple infusions).
A cured gourd adds flavor and I haven't tried it. Stainless steel, ceramic, glass is fine.
Yerba is cheaper than coffee at the moment but that may not be true in the future.
I think yerba ages in the factory packaging (Rosamonte Special is compacted and 24 months aged). With aged yerba, use less water temperature.

[Anonymous No.18588211]

>>18588180
if you die of a heart attack can I have your stash

[Anonymous No.18588229]

>>18588211
It would probably cost less to buy everything in the picture now than it would cost to ship in 3-5 years (30g a day).

[Anonymous No.18588256]

>>18588106
What brands of yerba do you like?

[Anonymous No.18588261]

>>18588105
Yeah it really doesn't strike me as something you need to be concerned about unless you drink a kilo a week of one of the super smokey barbacua brands for most of your life.

[Anonymous No.18588270]

>>18588180
Thank you for your wisdom, o maté sage.

[Anonymous No.18588401]

>>18587838
Soon

[Anonymous No.18588424]

I have a big ass bag of cruz de malta
No gourd though
Do I just brew it like tea?

[Anonymous No.18588431]

>>18588424
Something like this with whatever filter or strainer you have on hand, a french press also works great
https://youtube.com/watch?v=60GyahgLgCo

[Anonymous No.18588438]

>>18588424
Also amke sure you don't use boiling hot water, you want it to be like 70°c

[Anonymous No.18588492]

>>18588256
Whatever is cheapest because I am an argie living in Argentina so lolwhatdaeconomydoin. I currently have a 10-pack of Nobleza Gaucha in my closet because buying in bulk saves money, my favorite is Cruz de Malta but fuck the price. I also tend to add a lot of shit from my garden like mint or citrus zest into my yerba so it can be iffy quality. Also, I drink tereré in the sorta weather we're having and at that point it's whatever garbage and you can't tell a difference.

[Anonymous No.18588518]

>>18588492
Nice, thanks for the story anon.
Pricing is fucked in a different way here.
I just looked and at least from one importer
Nobleza Gaucha and cruz de malta are the same price. They basically just price everything at the price of the more expensive brands because they can. You can get better prices if you buy in bulk but its weird how much more expensive some are than others in bulk just based on what they import the most of.

[Anonymous No.18588547]

>>18587484
So in the green tea part of the sticky it has a part that says |per liquid|ounces (30ml)| so does that mean the ratios in the table are something like 0.6 ounces per 30 ml? I'm pretty sure that isn't right and it's just 0.6g per 100 ml but want to double check.

[Anonymous No.18588568]

>>18588547
1 fl oz is 30ml
it is .6 grams per fl oz
Or .6 grams per 30ml

[Anonymous No.18588617]

>>18588568
I see, no wonder my tea tastes so weak...


Thank you very much

[Anonymous No.18588623]

>>18588617
Its my fault anon that chart sucks
You can also reference
https://www.o-cha.com/make-green-tea.html
Their instructions are maybe a little too autistic but they are probably better than the pastebin

[Anonymous No.18588667]

[Anonymous No.18588671]

Use real human units

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[Anonymous No.18588698]

[Anonymous No.18588732]

>>18588674
>>18588677
>>18588680
>>18588686
>>18588698
Lmao, I saw that capybara image long ago and tried to take a similar pic with my cat

[Anonymous No.18589357]

>>18588732
cute kitty, anon

[Anonymous No.18589448]

im tweaking on tea. done nothing but watch movies and drink. i had 5g of sheng, 3g white, 5g dianhong. mostly lazy brewing. my pissing has ascended to a higher plane. i believe i have drunk between 3 and 4 litres.

[Anonymous No.18589471]

>>18589448
kek now boil some ripe to end the day
4g in about a litre will do you nicely

[Anonymous No.18590081]

>>18587484
can the mate guys get their own thread at this point?
barely any conversation here is about cha and cha accessories anymore, nobody is even talking about the fall harvest

[Anonymous No.18590115]

>>18590081
This, can Chads and their big dicks and hairy balls leave this thread? We can't even discuss our sissy cages and buttplug jewelry anymore

[Anonymous No.18590118]

Can I drink this shit with a normal tea infuser, brewing for like 10 mins? I don't want to have to bother with the (cute I'll admit) calabash and especially having a straw to wash.

[Anonymous No.18590141]

>>18590118
you can try. the straw is pretty handy though, I think it's way more convenient than using an infuser. calabash is not necessary

[Anonymous No.18590146]

>>18590141
>>18590118
also, a lot of mate is really finely ground. I think a french press would be better for brewing mate than a tea infuser

[Anonymous No.18590158]

>>18590115
yerba ain't even interesting man, it's just grandpa style with a straw

[Anonymous No.18590216]

>>18590158
If it's not interesting why would people discuss it?

[Anonymous No.18590228]

how do you prepare mate in a small gourd with a narrow mouth that tapers inward
i've been drinking mate for a few years but i've never bothered learning how to do all that mountain bullshit because my gourd is tiny and slanted
is it a meme? is it just for big gourds that flare out? is it brazilian mischief? have i been pranked?

[Anonymous No.18590256]

>>18590228
>is it a meme? is it just for big gourds that flare out?
a bit, yeah
it's used to ensure that you won't burn the yerba on the first two pours, but if you have the small cuplike mates it really makes no difference
water temperature control and pouring techniques are way more important

[Anonymous No.18590284]

>>18590081
we're in an unfortunate eclipse of expensive tea shipping and inexpensive yerba, it'll pass
t. poorfags

[Anonymous No.18590313]

>>18590081
>nobody is talking about the fall harvest
Oh no, not the fall harvest, what an absolute injustice.
*sips spring 2021 longjing*

[Anonymous No.18590375]

drinking some mate right now, but I don't remember what it is lmao (I threw away the packaging and put it in a yerbera and took a break from mate for a few months)
I think it's most likely Del Cebador, since that's the last mate I remember drinking. it's a little more "paraguayan" tasting than I remember though, I remembered it as being more fresh and green but now I get this nice slightly smoky woody flavor in the later steepings with some cherries maybe... I wonder if it's actually the paraguayan Fede Rico lol, that would kind of check out

[Anonymous No.18590568]

Drinking some kabusecha sample. Don't see any noticeable difference with the bancha I had before. Wouldn't pay the difference for some herbaceous/vegetal additional notes. Given that I don't like roasted flavor in tea, what japanese tea should I try now?

[Anonymous No.18590636]

>>18590568
>Given that I don't like roasted flavor in tea, what japanese tea should I try now?
Sencha (try one deep steamed and one light steamed) , black tea, matcha, Gyokuro (but at this point you should wait till the spring harvest is available to get some)

[Anonymous No.18590648]

>>18590375
What's your favorite smokey yerba? Do you every buy any of the barbacua versions?
Also have you tried any of the Brazilian yerbas? The really dusty bright green ones

[Anonymous No.18590871]

>>18590216
they don't, they just post pics and say they have it

[Anonymous No.18590872]

>>18590636
gyokuro is specifically meant to hold flavor over long periods of storage, why wait until harvest?

[Anonymous No.18590914]

>>18590871

[Anonymous No.18590974]

I have it btw

[Anonymous No.18591046]

>>18590914
Dayum, that's a lotta leaf.

[Anonymous No.18591075]

>>18590914
Nice

[Anonymous No.18591128]

>>18590648
la merced barbaqua is on my to try list definitely. colon amd rosamonte especial were pretty smokey from what I remember
I haven't had brazilian chimmarao yet, I hear it's annoying to filter with a normal drinkimg straw

[Anonymous No.18591177]

>>18587484
Is mate the new kombucha

[Anonymous No.18591203]

>>18591177
I don't think it ever got all that trendy in the Us aside from the yerba sodas

[Anonymous No.18591224]

>>18591203
carbonated yerba

[Anonymous No.18591235]

Yerba mate kombucha

[Anonymous No.18591293]

>>18591128
La merced barbacua sounds good, if you can find Isondú barbacua that also sounds like a good one, its on my short list to try.
>>18591203
It isn't massively popular but i can buy bags of loose yerba mate in most supermarkets which is pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.18591323]

>>18591177
>>18591293
It's a shame cuz yerba has vitamin c, b5, magnesium, chlorogenic acid, manganese and other things that actually do something and it could be the first health fad that actually did something since cocaine.

[Anonymous No.18591337]

Yerba mate puer
Imagine

[Anonymous No.18591347]

>>18591337
Indega has some shu pu-erh reminiscent earthiness to it. probably from the extra long aging. one of the most distinctive mate I've had

[Anonymous No.18591382]

>tfw youll never buy a 357g yerba sheng

[Anonymous No.18591420]

>>18591382
if someone made yerba matcha, then I'm sure big yerba cakes are not impossible

[Anonymous No.18591436]

Good day for shou.

[Anonymous No.18591455]

>>18591436
what are some good quality yet decent value shous?

[Anonymous No.18591555]

new autumn farmer leaf cakes on black friday!!!!!!! i hope that anon that did an order recently hasent done it yet i feel bad i shouldve told him that the new cakes were coming soon sorry :(
apperently the weather was really good this autumn, really excited

[Anonymous No.18591569]

>>18590081
just scroll past the mate posts

[Anonymous No.18591574]

>>18591347
Tell me about the Paraguayan yerba, does it clog the straw?

[Anonymous No.18591578]

>>18591436
Good color, looks tasty

[Anonymous No.18591593]

>>18591574
it would be extremely dusty

[Anonymous No.18591598]

>>18591593
Thats racist.

[Anonymous No.18591617]

>>18591598
for an argentinian

[Anonymous No.18591644]

Totally uneducated American here I just toss it in my French press. How much culturekampf am I doing? I like the canned, flavored stuff too

[Anonymous No.18591653]

>>18591455
Looking for a simple, decent daily drinker? If so, you could try a Haiwan 9978. Fullchea has them in a range of 2018-2022:
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/search/?Keyword=9978
The one I bought some years ago is the 2018 one, at about $17 for a full 357g cake (to clarify, different tea in my picture). Some aroma notes of syrup/brown sugar. Nice medium thickness in the liquor. Not super complex, but a respectable quality shou for the money. You could also try a V93 Taetea shou:
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/search/?Keyword=V93
I had the 2017 one. My eccentric journal aroma notes were
>"heated caramel, charred wood, and vaguely some sort of toasted biscuit"
Though, didn't transfer to the palate itself as much. Also a nice medium thickness like the 9978. Subtle sweetness, pretty smooth.
>>18591578
It's been a nice change of pace after cruising on not-great gong mei so much. Notes are mollasses, cooling woody aftertaste, raisins. Nice little 100g one for $7.50 (+sh).
https://www.chawangshop.com/2016-chawangpu-menghai-xiao-bing-cha-100g-1401.html

[Anonymous No.18591664]

>>18591644
>I just toss it in my French press.
Certified based

[Anonymous No.18591668]

Time for fu brick crumbs

[Anonymous No.18591671]

>>18591668
Does people seriously brew stems instead of picking them out then throwing away?

[Anonymous No.18591672]

>>18591644
Tea? Or yerba mate?
Either way french press is fine.
Some tips, dont push the filter down all the way and squeeze the leaves, push it maybe 2/3 when you are done brewing. Also for best results pour all the tea off after brewing, dont leave a bunch of brewed tea sitting on top of leaves in the french press after you pour your first cup

[Anonymous No.18591695]

>>18591671
With teas like that fu brick that are half stems, of course im going to brew them, they add sweetness and flavor to the tea.
Pic related is what the brick looks like

[Anonymous No.18591703]

Is puer tea caloric enough to break a fast? I know normal tea has insignificant caloric values but puer can have some sweet ish flavors.

[Anonymous No.18591706]

>>18591703
I don't think it has any calories unless you eat it

[Anonymous No.18591707]

>>18591703
This is the most autistic thing I've read

[Anonymous No.18591718]

>>18591664
It's all I have at the office, I figured it's kinda similar to gourd with a straw filter?

>>18591672
Yerba mate leaves I got a bag of the gueyaki brand because I like their cold canned drinks. I also fine the caffeine buzz a little cleaner.


I just dump some boiling water let it steep for a couple minutes, press and drink.

[Anonymous No.18591731]

>>18591718
french press work fine for yerba mate, but I'd use colder water than boiling myself or it might get quite bitter

[Anonymous No.18591763]

>>18591703
All tea infusions technically have some (very negligible) calories, as does coffee despite claims otherwise. However, they're often recorded as nothing because they're so nutritionally insignificant that they don't merit even noting, and don't really do a lot of anything to disrupt a fast. Once during a fast, I tested my blood ketones once before and after consuming tea, and I noticed a small decrease, but it was not nearly enough to kick me out of ketosis. That could be chalked up to other variables as well anyway. So, yes, it is technically ceasing a caloric fast, but practically, you are still fasted.

[Anonymous No.18591772]

>>18591695
Oh Lord. How much did you pay for that?

[Anonymous No.18591785]

>>18591772
It was around 16¢ per gram
Its an ugly style of processing but it was at least a decade old when i got it and its made out of some wildish forest tea.

[Anonymous No.18591883]

>>18591644
French press is fine. Single infusion western style is called mate cocido

[Anonymous No.18591898]

>>18591718
Try 160-180F water instead and steep till the water is amber and not green. This may take only 30-60 seconds. Then pour out and try a second steeping later.

[Anonymous No.18591905]

>>18591671
Stems add sweetness to yerba and tea.

[Anonymous No.18591999]

From amazon reviews by random retards i have learned that yerba mate stems give you a headache and yerba mate dust is bad for your kidneys
What would i do without these helpful reviews

[Anonymous No.18592017]

>>18590871
>anything I don't like is a deep conspiracy of bad faith actors trying to fuck me over
gotta love these autistic retards

[Anonymous No.18592019]

>>18591999
Yes yerba dust is shit, dont buy the powdery ones.

[Anonymous No.18592020]

>>18591999
Checked

[Anonymous No.18592030]

>>18591999
the dust unironically increases the heartburn effect of the mate and a lot of people removes it before pouring for that reason
However I never heard that one about the sticks

[Anonymous No.18592037]

>>18592019
I like dust. It keeps the durability high as it's resting on top of the mountain to be steeped later.

[Anonymous No.18592063]

this 'sticky rice' nuo mi xang ripe (mini tuo)

the rice scent comes from an added herb, and is powerful so the quality of the tea is hard to appraise but FUCK ME IT SMELLS GOOD

I WANT TO FUCK THE SMELL ITS LIKE SNIFFING YOUR WAIFU/HUSBANDO'S SKIN AFTER A WORKOUT! God damn! I want to drown in it. I WANT TO GRIND UP THE LEAVES INTO A FINE POWDER AND SPRINKLE IT OVER MY PILLOW so that I can wake up every day in heaven

it's perfectly sexy, musty smell of hot fresh GENITALS! I'M GOING TO SNORT IT

[Anonymous No.18592071]

>>18592063
having a few more SEXY SLURPS reveals a creamy glutenous mouthfeel with very sweet woody notes, fair tangy aftertaste. Really yummy!

[Anonymous No.18592074]

>>18591999
I can sympathize a tiny bit. When I first bought and drank yerba 7 years ago on a whim and no research, my first impression upon opening the bag was that it's a bush thrown into a blender. I over-temp brewed it and I just assumed it's a cheap tobacco-tasting grog for people who can't afford coffee. I got through half the 1kg bag before I read deeper and found out the leaf, dust and stems are an intentional and measured pre-separated blend, as well as the correct temperature. I felt ashamed and appreciated yerba a lot more afterward.

[Anonymous No.18592089]

>>18592063
>He drank the freebie Fullchea mini tuo.
>He LIKED it.
That said,
>Tfw no 2D qt3.14 scent tea experience.
Why even live?

[Anonymous No.18592231]

>>18592063
I wish there were more premium versions of those sticky rice ripes out there. I have only found cheapies like those little mini tuos.
Anyeay i have come to appreciate flavored teas like that that have herbs or flowers added instead of just artificial flavor spayed on the leaves like you get with some flavored teabags

[Anonymous No.18592281]

>>18592074
>my first impression upon opening the bag was that it's a bush thrown into a blender
It really does give that vibe.
Like you said its interesting that it an intentional blend, i saw some factory tour video where they had separate silos for dust stems and leaf.
Keeping the temp low makes a huge difference, i also hit it with boiling water when i first bought a bag and i did not enjoy it

[Anonymous No.18592360]

>try to make pour over coffee
>incredibly demanding science that requires perfection at every step to get something remotely drinkable
>try to make tea
>all I have to do is eyeball the leaf, throw some water in the gaiwan and wait roughly 20-30s, don't even need a timer
>even if I slightly over or understeep the tea is still drinkable
I feel like I finally understand the dichotomy. Coffee is for tryhards who enjoy the challenge that a perfect cup requires and have all the gear necessary, or lazy people who are okay with drinking absolute ass swampwater drowned in cream and sugar just to wake up in the morning.
Tea on the other hand is a relaxing, meditative pursuit where you can easily unwind and enjoy it with nothing but a cup and a kettle - everything else is extraneous.
Coffee or Tea is really a much more significant question than I've really been assuming - it honestly probably says a lot about a person what they drink.

[Anonymous No.18592369]

>>18592074
Biggest mistake I made was assuming that because Yerba is a tisane, it should be brewed with boiling water like an herbal tea. But it makes sense that you use MUCH cooler water, because the traditional method of drinking Yerba is to drink it basically as soon as/during brewing and you can't do that if the water is scalding hot.

[Anonymous No.18592449]

You will drink the mate.

[Anonymous No.18592464]

>>18592360
I agree i essence but regardless of what the coffe snobs tell you you can make a damn good cup of coffee with freshly roasted beans from the supermarket a spinny blade grinder and a plastic pour over thing also from the supermarket.
Anyway pic related

[Anonymous No.18592508]

>>18592360
I just french press or vacuum maker my coffee. You can pour the finished product through an infuser basket to get rid of sediment. I drink black and if the bean tastes bad I finish the bag and don't buy it again.

[Anonymous No.18592520]

>>18592360
Coffee really isn't that hard. You can buy higher end drip machines that make perfectly good coffee, and french presses are dead simple. Most of the 'absolute perfectionism' when it comes to coffee surrounds espresso, which is something your average coffee drinker doesn't bother with because - unless you're cupping espressos every single day for years - the cost of all the equipment doesn't break even with just buying espresso from your local cafe.

[Anonymous No.18592538]

>>18592464
>a spinny blade grinder
The ebay burr mills can attach perfectly into an electric drill btw
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225240942170

[Anonymous No.18592541]

>>18592538
>the american flag to pretend it's US-made when in reality stamped out of a chinesium factory in shenzhen
loool

[Anonymous No.18592543]

>>18592464
>>18592508
>>18592520
I bought a pour-over which the coffee thread told me is the Dark Souls of Coffee

[Anonymous No.18592547]

>>18592538
Feel free to convince my wife to hook a power drill up to a manual grinder in the morning.

[Anonymous No.18592552]

>>18592543
Autism
Pour over is super easy unless you make it hard for yourself by falling for the v60 meme

[Anonymous No.18592554]

>>18592547
It would be based

[Anonymous No.18592555]

>>18592552
yeah I bought a V60 someone in the thread said it was the Dark Souls of Coffee so I bought it because Dark Souls is a good videogame.
Wonder what the Bloodborne of making Coffee is, an Espresso machine?

[Anonymous No.18592562]

>>18592547
Also the coffee chamber makes a vacuum seal so you can grind coffee and leave it in there

[Anonymous No.18592564]

Best thanksgiving tea to impress my tea faggot friend?

[Anonymous No.18592568]

>>18592564
dong ding lol

[Anonymous No.18592577]

>>18592538
>coarse/medium/fine
>ceramic
>no burr shot
yeah that'll make you like 5 mediocre cups of coffee (especially when you shred the fucking thing with a full blast electric drill) before it explodes like the cheap chinese piece of shit it is
Like trying to use a shitty bio-degradable teabag to replace your gaiwan.

[Anonymous No.18592582]

>>18592543
I looked at the replies to your post, and I quote:
>Yeah, pourover's your thing. No, there is nothing simpler. There's a bit of a learning curve, but it's not difficult. You'll figure it out. Dorks like to pretend it's complex to make themselves feel important
>I think almost all popular methods outside of espresso are fairly simple.
>Melitta pour over into your cup. Can find the dripper and filters at literally any grocery store and it's good enough.
>ignore every other post
>just buy the v60 with decanter
>put in coffee, pour in boiling water, wait for 2 minutes

One guy did state there was a steep learning curve, but I think he might be autistic because I tend to agree with the above statements as a Chemex and v60 user myself. Pour-over is not as dead trivial as french presses or drip machines but it's not rocket science and it's not difficult. One good Youtube tutorial from someone like hoffman would probably set you up.

[Anonymous No.18592584]

>>18592577
I've used it like 50 times, it's pretty well made.

[Anonymous No.18592590]

>>18592555
Espresso is playing dark souls with the donkey conga controller

[Anonymous No.18592594]

>>18592564
Jin Jun Mei or Longjing, both considered very premium teas if you get a decent grade of them.
I would buy Jin Jun Mei for Thanksgiving though, Longjing is relatively out of season and might be bordering on stale by this time of year. I think a black tea is a very safe gift too, and should pair well with a Thanksgiving dinner.

[Anonymous No.18592600]

Am I supposed to wet the tea leaves before I put them in the hot water to steep?

[Anonymous No.18592612]

>>18592600
you could do a quick wash with the hot water

[Anonymous No.18592614]

>>18592600
How are you brewing, a standard teapot?
"Rinse" the leaves with your hot water, pour that out of the teapot, and then steep them. Ideally your rinse is enough water to let the leaves sit in it and soak for about 15-20 seconds before you pour it out, to let the leaves unfurl and "activate" if you will and to wash away any off-tastes.

[Anonymous No.18592615]

>>18592600
Sometimes it can help with little broken pieces floating on the surface, or big leaves that need to unfurl.

[Anonymous No.18592633]

>>18592600
>Am I supposed to wet the tea leaves before I put them in the hot water to steep?
No
But generally you should be pouring hot water over tea leaves and putting the tea leaves into hot water.

[Anonymous No.18592636]

>>18592360
You can get a lot out of coffee with a very moderate amount of money spent if you're smart or you can think outside the box. Money helps you brew good coffee conveniently and enough of it can be a substitute for skill and knowledge to a good degree.

[Anonymous No.18592637]

tfw steeping tea way past the point of no flavor thinking "it might still have a little flavor left"

[Anonymous No.18592656]

tfw reaching acceptance that the flavor is done and open gaiwan to throw leaves out
>there's water in it

[Anonymous No.18592661]

>>18592600
Gongfu style techniques will call for a 'rinse' (really just an extremely short brew you discard) but I've never been convinced this actually does anything (no, you're not getting rid of pesticides that way).

[Anonymous No.18592670]

>>18592661
I'm not sure either. And it only alters the taste of steep #1 if anything.

[Anonymous No.18592676]

>>18592656
Let it go, there's no caffeine anymore

[Anonymous No.18592686]

>>18592661
It's just to activate the tea like activating almonds. The idea is that it preps the bull and removes some of the bitter compounds from lower quality tea (rinsing is less common with high end teas) so you get a smoother and cleaner cup when you drink.

[Anonymous No.18592694]

Does anyone resteep western brewed tea? Also, I'm getting some more white teas at ys and I'd like suggestions for stuff on the sweeter/floral side and also stuff I can drink a lot of and not go bankrupt.

[Anonymous No.18592703]

>>18592661
Maybe rinising helps get the funk out ouf ripes a bit but i mostly rinse just so my first brew isint weak and watery. Usually if i skip the rinse i end up tossing the first brew anyway after a few sips making it effectively the same thing.

[Anonymous No.18592721]

You know how sour beers and natural process coffee have a similar fermented fruit flavor? Any teas with a similar flavor?

[Anonymous No.18592733]

>>18592686
>like activating almonds. The idea is that it preps the bull

[Anonymous No.18592750]

>>18592694
>Does anyone resteep western brewed tea?
I do sometimes, usually i double the initial brew time and sometimes i get some decent flavor out of a resteep. It depends on how hard you push the first steep and how quickly the leaves give up their flavor. In general i would not suggest keeping the first steep shorter so that you can get a stronger resteep. So just try it out and see how it goes for your tea
Sorry i don't know what white teas to suggest.
Ive been meaning to buy one of these but i haven't gotten around to it yet, but yeah its not from ys
https://m.grandnesstea.com/2018-Xiaguan-Jinggu-Yue-Guang-Bai-Moonlight-White-Pu-er-Pu-erh-Tea-Cake-Raw-320g-p92359.html

[Anonymous No.18592770]

>>18592694
Sometimes I take the infuser basket from the pot and put it in a mug for a resteep.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/fuding-white-peony-white-chinese-tea-2016-peony-king-white-chinese-tea-bai-cha-cake-300g-p0722.html

[Anonymous No.18592789]

>>18592721
There is some Japanese anerobic fermented bancha that is supposed to have that sour flavor.
https://gjtea.org/post-fermented-japanese-tea/

[Anonymous No.18592792]

>>18592789
Very cool

[Anonymous No.18592811]

$29 with ship
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2018-silver-needle-white-tea-ancient-tree-moonlight-white-single-bud-white-tea-cake-357g-p0658.html

[Anonymous No.18592826]

>>18592811
I have that and moonlight white coming in the mail (eventually). It's tempting to order more but I haven't even received my first shipment yet so I don't really know what to expect.

[Anonymous No.18592831]

>>18592594
>I think a black tea is a very safe gift
Definitely true, but for jin jun mei, I'd be sure he knows to use flash steeps and around 190 degree water before gifting it, because if the jin jun mei I've tried says anything, it can come out disgusting if you don't.

[Anonymous No.18592859]

>>18592811
Have you had this one? I know at least one or two anons have bought it, but I don't know what kind of notes it may have. Looks pleasant anyway.
>>18592826
I saw that post. Hopefully you enjoy the moonlight white too. I'd be interested in reading your thoughts on both cakes whenever you taste them.
>I haven't even received my first shipment yet so I don't really know what to expect.
I don't know if their times have changed much due to international events over the past two years, but it is pretty decent. I'd say it is somewhat faster than buying something from AliExpress, but certainly not like getting a package from Amazon. Coming from China after all.

[Anonymous No.18592876]

>>18592694
You can steep twice so long as you plan for it and steep no longer than 3 minutes max the first time. Don't be niggardly trying to steep expensive leaf for over 10 minutes total.

[Anonymous No.18592923]

[Anonymous No.18592933]

>>18592464

[Anonymous No.18592979]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYPW3O6VhXo

[Anonymous No.18593150]

can any anons transcribe this name?

[Anonymous No.18593206]

>>18593150
梅芬

[Anonymous No.18593346]

https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/white-tea/products/fuding-shou-mei-white-tea-stuffed-into-king-orange
These grew on me, they have an odd mintiness to them and make my mouth feel weird. There is a bitterness that reaches the back of my mouth, but they are pretty sweet on their own and I'm a huge fan.
>>18593150
You can try enabling the chinese keyboard on your phone or tablet (or computer?) and use the handwriting function to write the characters out. That should work

[Anonymous No.18593352]

>>18593346
>You can try enabling the chinese keyboard on your phone or tablet
I try that, I'm terrible at drawing out these runes and the last time I tried I didn't get anywhere near as close as >>18593206

[Anonymous No.18593417]

>>18593346
Something I forgot to add is I did it western style. one orange to about 16oz of water at 85c for 3 minutes. I also tried resteeping for twice the length of time and the bitterness really came out. It's like that feeling you get when you vomit, it's the exact same bitterness and feeling in the back of your mouth/throat. I wouldn't recommend resteeping but I bet gongfu is fine.

[Anonymous No.18593576]

>>18592661
the one thing it actually does is open up the leaves if the tea is rolled or pressed into a cake, making your first actual brew quicker

[Anonymous No.18593713]

>>18590636
Aren't gyokuro, macha and sencha shadowed teas like kabuse? Don't they hence develop the same kind of flavor profile? I will look into japanese black tea. Also, heard about japanese dark teas and lactofermented teas but not sure it's worth getting them.

[Anonymous No.18593750]

>>18587484
DUDE THAT LOOKS LIKE WEED

[Anonymous No.18593767]

>>18593713
sencha isn't always shadowed

[Anonymous No.18593773]

>>18593750
it really doesn't. weed looks like more like a weird sheng cake if anything

[Anonymous No.18594066]

>>18592694
I currently brew 5-8g in a 500ml teapot with 2-3 steeps, either 3/6/15min or 5/10/15+min (past 10min I cover the pot so it stays hot longer). I get about the same amount to drink as with gongfu, even more since I often have too strong first brews. Definitely depends on style and quality of tea, as for gongfu anyways.

[Anonymous No.18594295]

>>18582166
i have a hard time seeing these as "overly green" considering they are only a year old they look p browny compared to other "green" puerhs ive had

[Anonymous No.18594326]

>>18587484
i hate how much i have to put it in the cup to get the same amount of caffeine as in a cup of coffee

[Anonymous No.18594329]

test

[Anonymous No.18594338]

>>18594326
why, even with the amount its still cheaper than coffee caffeine per gram, plus it also tastes better than the bottom barrel coffees that could compete.
if you are only after caffeine buy pills, its more effective than either.2t2my

[Anonymous No.18594343]

>>18594338
this, good mate is cheaper than good coffee + I feel like you get energy for longer with a nice long mate session

[Anonymous No.18594421]

I just fell for the mate meme. I hope I didn't fall for an insidious campaign by Big Gaucho.

[Anonymous No.18594598]

>>18594421
what did you buy, anon?
remember to start with less leaf than trve gavchos say and use 70-80 degrees celsius water

[Anonymous No.18594636]

>>18587484
the way this stuff is prepared and drunk looks so gross and inelegant. It reminds of betel nut or those indians eating tamarind seeds and throwing them around the office.

Is it not possible to use a tea ball for this stuff?

[Anonymous No.18594668]

>>18594636
french press is more practical
but really, it's just grandpa style with a straw and more leaf, what's the problem?

[Anonymous No.18594724]

Am I pissing out all the minerals in my body if I drink 3 cups of tea over 1-2 hours? Should I spread them out more? (I usually end up pissing completely clear twice in that period so I'm starting to worry)

[Anonymous No.18594780]

>>18594326
Yerba and coffee are almost the same caffeine per gram. A 1lb bag of coffee lasts as long as a 500g of yerba for me.

[Anonymous No.18594784]

>>18594724
Just take more sodium and magnesium lole. You're also getting rid of waste along with the minerals.

[Anonymous No.18594920]

>>18592831
That's a good amount of Chinese teas in general, I thought both Gunpowder and Chun Mee were undrinkable garbage when I was newer to tea but I just had to refine my brewing. Chun Mee is still pretty low tier but it was also a cheap daily drinker so that's fair.

[Anonymous No.18595160]

>>18594295
Then im probably wrong. The tea could just be bland

[Anonymous No.18595294]

i bought this on a whim and im hooked

makes me feel happy and good. coffee and tea never made me feel this way

[Anonymous No.18595355]

>>18595294
Something that really tickles me about an Argentinian product mostly consumed in south america proudly declaring that it is gluten free on the bag, i thought that was just a USA thing.

[Anonymous No.18595372]

>>18595294
What's the intensity like? How smokey is it? Have you managed to drink too much at once and gotten jittery?

[Anonymous No.18595877]

I see my yerba mate shilling is working better than i expected
Everyones going to love it when they feel the buzz hit

[Anonymous No.18595887]

>>18595877
It's alright, I still have a little bag of flavored Mate from way before anyone was shilling it here.
Wonder if it's gone stale actually, does Yerba have a proper shelf life? Maybe I'll brew a cup or two in the morning tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.18595894]

>>18595887
>Yerba have a proper shelf life?
Sort of
Thr more premium ones are aged for up to two years before packaging but they are generally aged whole and the processed for packaging. I would assume it would keep pretty much indefinitely but it might get a little bland after several years

[Anonymous No.18595927]

>>18595355
the fact that they care about gluten is indisputable proof that argentinians are white

[Anonymous No.18595949]

>>18595927
Hard to argue with this
It seems the question has been settled

[Anonymous No.18595952]

Hello /tea/ I'm new to brewing tea and I bought a electric kettle with tea infuser but every tea that I tried is too bitter (I know its temperature's fault) or tastes like purified water (maybe because its not on the right temperature?)
The kettle has two modes: automatic (heats up to 85°c and it goes off) and manual (heats up to 100°c and it doesn't go off) but every tea that I bought it recommended temperature is 90°c or 95c°, its there any way to know when to turn off my kettle? Or maybe the tea that I bought is just bad?

[Anonymous No.18595958]

>>18595372
not him, but from what I remember Rosamonte Seleccion Especial is extra smoky for an argentinian mate

[Anonymous No.18595999]

>>18595952
>only has two modes
Kinda shit m8.
Anyways, what are you brewing? Tea bags or loose leaf? Black or Green? What volume (in your mug, in a Western teapot, in a Gaiwan?) and how long are you infusing for?
If your tea is too bitter, you're steeping it for too long most likely. But in order to tell you how long to steep for it's important to know the leaf/water ratio and the type of tea in addition to the temperature. Outside of delicate Japanese greens you can brew with full boiling 100c water, you just have to massively shorten your infusion times.
Anyways my advice without knowing anything is shave about 25% of your infusion time and see if it's significantly less bitter. If you're using teabags it's going to be somewhat difficult to find the exact right infusion time to avoid bitterness but also extract enough tea flavor that it doesn't just taste like weird hot water.

[Anonymous No.18596008]

>>18595952
The kettle has an infuser in it?
Don't add the tea untill after the water boils.
Steep tmblack tea fir about 4 minutes
If its too bitter you are steeping too long, or the lea is just very strong and bitter, or you are using too much tea
If its green tea you want to use a pretty low temperature 70 or 80 degrees.
You will have to be mose specific about what exactly the kettle is doing with the tea if you want more help

[Anonymous No.18596032]

Recommend me something at costco, I need to start drinking tea.

[Anonymous No.18596041]

Just called my local sketchy south american store and they said they have a pretty big selection of yerba mate, i will hit them up later this week and try out this meme

[Anonymous No.18596049]

>>18596032
You don't "need" to start doing anything but unless you can find loose leaf at Costco I would instead recommend seeing if there are any local tea stores that sell unflavored loose leaf (non-blended) at a reasonable price. You should be able to get 100g for $10, or possibly even cheaper. 5g is enough for a day's worth of tea (you can steep it multiple times) and then you just need a $5-10 infuser basket for convenience's sake that either the tea store will stock or Amazon will sell you. You can buy loose leaf from Amazon too it's just way more hit and miss.

[Anonymous No.18596054]

>>18596032
Pic related are actually really decent green tea bags. Make sure to use 70° or 80°c water and not full boiling. Follow the instructions on the package for brew time don't just leave the teabag in.

[Anonymous No.18596059]

>>18596008
>The kettle has an infuser in it?
Yes
>Don't add the tea untill after the water boils.
Will try, thanks
>>18595999
I'm trying to brew loose leaf black tea and I'm using 2 small spoons per cup

[Anonymous No.18596081]

mixed my 'tom with some green tea to reduce the muckiness and some stevia, honey and caramel syrup. it's divine.

[Anonymous No.18596115]

>>18596054
Nice, will pick some up the next time I'm over there. Need to kick the carbonated jew.

[Anonymous No.18596127]

>>18596059
>will try
Wait, you were trying to steep tea in water AS it boiled? That would definitely cause a fucking awful bitter tea.
I would remove the infuser entirely if you can and put it in your cup that you're brewing tea in. Two small spoons sounds like standard 4-5g of tea, so you'll be doing a sort of halfway between gong fu and traditional brewing. Pour just enough water into your cup to cover the leaves and wait 10-15 seconds for it to "steep" before pouring it out. That should contain the most bitter parts of the tea and mellow out the next steep that you'll actually drink.
Fill the cup up and let it steep for 30-40 seconds before removing the infuser, then let it cool down enough to take a few sips and see how it tastes. If it's too bitter, steep your next steep for 25-30 seconds. If it's just right, 40-50 seconds for your next cup. If it was too weak, do a full 60-65 seconds. You should be able to get 3 good cups of tea out of your leaves this way.
Adjust from there next time you brew - if 30s wasn't enough, the next time you make tea go for 40s. You'll eventually get a feel for it.
As for water temperature for black tea, let it reach boil and then let it sit 30-60s depending on how much thermal mass (water) is in the kettle. That'll help it cool down to the 90-95 range and pouring it into your cup will do the rest.

[Anonymous No.18596138]

>>18595372
>What's the intensity like?
i wouldn't describe it as intense, just a nice uplifting mood
>How smokey is it?
smells really rich to me, not overly smoky, but i haven't tried any other brands
>Have you managed to drink too much at once and gotten jittery?
not at all, doesn't give me anxiety either like coffee does sometimes. i measure 2 or 3 tbsp per 16 oz of water, but one cup lasts me a good few hours

[Anonymous No.18596143]

>>18596081
Mmmm i love the flavor of dirt
I just dump a few grams in an oz or two of hot water, swirl it around till the chunks go away and then chug it.

[Anonymous No.18596188]

>>18596115
you mean your soda jerkin'? tea won't help here friendo, buy heavy carbonated water. if it's the carbonation you fear (why?) then I don't know, try the teabag I guess.

[Anonymous No.18596202]

>>18596188
Nah, its none of that man. I just like a little flavored something every now and then. Just wanna switch over cause tea's better for you.

[Anonymous No.18596205]

>>18596143
it's not dirt you silly goose

[Anonymous No.18596223]

>>18596127
>Wait, you were trying to steep tea in water AS it boiled?
Yeah, thats how I thought it would works with that kettle desu if not, why they design it with a infuser on it? ;;
It doesn't sound hard, I'll try it that way thanks

[Anonymous No.18596229]

>>18596202
fair enough, buy some black tea teabags too while you're at it. go for the more expensive ones, avoid anything with ((flavoring)) except earl grey. oh yeah, buy some earl grey and try to boil your water on the stove if you don't have a kettle. godspeed.

[Anonymous No.18596255]

>>18596223
do you perchance have this type of contraption?
https://www.breville.com/us/en/products/tea/btm600.html
they're fucking evil and designed by the people who probably don't understand how the tea works.
I would open-handed slapped the bigots who push those onto poor lazy bastards.

use it as a kettle if you must.

[Anonymous No.18596270]

>>18596205
No its kratom, it tastes like dirt

[Anonymous No.18596279]

>>18596081
>>18596143
>>18596205
>>18596270
Stop dragging your budget off-brand opium into my comfy tea thread, junkies.

[Anonymous No.18596315]

>>18596255
Sorta, bought this one
https://electron.cl/products/tetera-electrica-ba-7001
damn sounds that I fucked up

[Anonymous No.18596327]

>>18596315
not that much, it's still a kettle if you can remove the steeping contraption.

[Anonymous No.18596364]

>>18596279
fun fact: as of a few months ago kratom is no longer classified as an opioid. if you care enough I can find the full conference but it's hours long and I'd doubt you'd care.

[Anonymous No.18596371]

>>18596315
Its not really a big deal, just dont put the tea in till the water is boiled, time the tea for 3-5 minutes, then remove the tea from the water, don't leave it sitting in there.
/tea/ really hates those kettles with the steeping basket but they are fine as long as you use them correctly

[Anonymous No.18596378]

>>18596364
like he said, get going

[Anonymous No.18596426]

>>18596378
it's more of a tea than your shitty earl grey dust, nigel.

[Anonymous No.18596452]

18596426
>more of a tea
nope its a tisane try again

[Anonymous No.18596483]

Just order my first puer cakes from fullchea on aliexpress, it's expected to be delivered on February 2023(!). See you in 3 months /tea/ I'll continue enjoying my teabags in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.18596502]

>>18596483
Godspeed.
I usually get my fullchea orders in about 25 days to the USA but it is Christmas season right now so i wouldn't be surprised if things take a little bit longer.

[Anonymous No.18596507]

Now this is a real mans tisane

[Anonymous No.18596513]

>>18596364
>giving a shit about what a health agency or the DEA says
Mitragynine and 7-Hydroxymitragynine are μ-opioid agonists. It's an opioid. That's how it exerts active effects, by agonizing μ-opioid receptors. You can cope around it all you want and seethe and dilate while getting crucified on your 'muh natural herb' cross of stupidity but I don't give a shit about your dumb moral crusade and you're nothing but a junkie to me. Now get.

[Anonymous No.18596542]

>>18596513
you dumb anglogermanic monkey troglodyte you're the one peddling anglogermanic DEA talmudic propaganda. how's that corn syrup brain going for you??? fucking mongoloid chud retard

[Anonymous No.18596549]

get junkie'd

[Anonymous No.18596550]

>>18596507
no cap opioids are mostly a meme. unless it's something like oxy or heroin. they're barely even drugs. no one gets addicted to a little bit of 'pium or 'tom

[Anonymous No.18596562]

>>18596549
you're probably the type of person that thinks caffeine is addictive

[Anonymous No.18596581]

>>18596549
better tell us if you drank some tea lately which you would recommend

[Anonymous No.18596595]

I haven't gotten a tea-high for quite a while now.

[Anonymous No.18596609]

>>18595927
Case closed.
Defendant is not guilty.

[Anonymous No.18596612]

>>18595372
These two are the most smoky on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Yerba-Rosamonte-Argentina-Green-Herbal/dp/B001UKFN24/
https://www.amazon.com/MERCED-Barbacua-Cosecha-Limitada-500gr/dp/B014KSCA14/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=merced&m=A3BVAI7O8XCATX&qid=1668641926&s=merchant-items&sr=1-2

[Anonymous No.18596616]

>>18595294
Take a magnesium supplement (toss & wash a pinch of epsom salt) and see if it has a similar feeling.

[Anonymous No.18596769]

>>18596612
Nice thx

[Anonymous No.18596828]

>>18596550
frfr

[Anonymous No.18596875]

>>18596769
If you want to dodge the shipping on La Merced Barbacua, buy 3 or add these to cart
https://www.amazon.com/CBSe-0102371-GUARANA-FLAVOR-ENERGIA/dp/B01ETFETTE/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=cbse&m=A3BVAI7O8XCATX&qid=1668641808&s=merchant-items&sr=1-4
https://www.amazon.com/Yerba-Mate-Taragui-Argentina-500gr/dp/B004HVP738/ref=sr_1_46?keywords=yerba&m=A3BVAI7O8XCATX&qid=1668822524&s=merchant-items&sr=1-46

[Anonymous No.18596880]

>>18587605
Taragui no stems .5kg $4
https://www.amazon.com/Yerba-Mate-Taragui-Argentina-500gr/dp/B004HVP738/ref=sr_1_46?keywords=yerba&m=A3BVAI7O8XCATX&qid=1668822524&s=merchant-items&sr=1-46

[Anonymous No.18596888]

>>18587605
Taragui no stems .5kg $4
https://www.amazon.com/Yerba-Mate-Taragui-Argentina-500gr/dp/B004HVP738/ref=sr_1_46?keywords=yerba&m=A3BVAI7O8XCATX&qid=1668822524&s=merchant-items&sr=1-46

Grapia Milenaria .5kg $7
https://www.amazon.com/Grapia-Milenaria-Yerba-Mate-Stems/dp/B0B9849WK3/ref=sr_1_96?keywords=yerba&m=A3BVAI7O8XCATX&qid=1668822932&s=merchant-items&sr=1-96

[Anonymous No.18596935]

>>18596888
I hear good ones about this one too, you ahould add it to your list
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07LFK65XM/

[Anonymous No.18596949]

>>18596888
Latin american products has the kilo bags of it but its not really a deal
https://www.amazon.com/Organic-Yerba-Obereña-Unsmoked-Argentina/dp/B07K294YNH/

[Anonymous No.18597020]

now I sort of want a yak dung peated whisky
https://youtu.be/dmbM-rxXnQk?t=273

[Anonymous No.18597037]

>>18587497
>>18587605
>>18587605
I've never had yerba mate but I like mint. Does it really taste like it? What's regular yerba taste like?

[Anonymous No.18597076]

>>18597037
CBSe Mountain Herbs uses a really mild tasting yerba that's overshadowed by 3 different mint-tasting herbs, one of which is peppermint.

[Anonymous No.18597098]

>>18597037
There are a lot of yerba mate and mint blends you can buy, try one of those.
https://www.amazon.com/CBSE-Hierbas-Serranas-500-17-6/dp/B0051275XW/
https://www.amazon.com/Yerba-mate-Cachamate-Herbal-Boldo/dp/B0773SH8FV
https://www.amazon.com/Tea-Stop-Herbal-Hierbas-Serranas/dp/B00661C5PU/

[Anonymous No.18597119]

>>18596550
on god

[Anonymous No.18597146]

>>18597037
>What's regular yerba taste like?
Rich, grassy, sweet, bitter, citrus, woody, intense, toasty, fresh bread, creamy

[Anonymous No.18597160]

>>18596542
>resorts to a garbled mess of schizophrenic noise when confronted with basic assay information
Unwarranted arrogance is a sign of opioid abuse, anon.

[Anonymous No.18597185]

>>18596550
Stage 5-6

[Anonymous No.18597201]

>>18597185
lmao
its funny cuz i know someone who died
i still slonk kratom once a month tho

[Anonymous No.18597225]

I'm not in favor of drug prohibition but junkies are by far and away the stupidest and most arrogant class of addicts tying only perhaps with gambling addicts. Completely insufferable people unless they're in the active process of getting clean.

[Anonymous No.18597246]

Shut the fuck up about junkies, i don't care about junkies, i don't need to heare about them in a tea thread
Im sorry that its affected your life in some way and now makes you very upset, don't care, talk about it somewhere else

[Anonymous No.18597255]

>>18597246
Your fault for bringing your shitty indonesian budget off-brand opioid into the thread and getting angry when people point out the obvious. Addict.

[Anonymous No.18597274]

>>18597146
Is this a meme?

[Anonymous No.18597278]

go cry about it somewhere else
kratom gets about two posts a month in this thread without you sperging the fuck out and crying when it gets mentioned. The subsequent 10 other posts in this thread about it are all thanks to you.

[Anonymous No.18597305]

>too much of a brain damaged addict to realize multiple people are shitting on him right now
You will never get clean. You will die on the toilet hemorrhaging your bowels.

[Anonymous No.18597332]

What's the deal with nixing teapots? They look nice. Are they comparable to yixing pots, or is it just a matter of preference?

[Anonymous No.18597363]

>>18597332
Nixing clays are riverine clays that are wheel thrown. They have a unique color-shifting effect that I don't believe is very well documented as to its causation. There's some ideas about certain teas are more suited to the teapots made in the regions they come from, but I'm more convinced that clay generally just tends to be clay. The main advantage of unglazed clay is that it rounds out harsh flavors in certain types of tea, like darker oolongs or ripe pu'erh.

In other words, yes, they're comparable to Yixing for far less of a price tag. They're generally not as high quality in terms of fit and finish as a well-made Yixing. They're pretty comparable to chaozhou and jianshui or Taiwanese/Western craft unglazed pots in that regard.

[Anonymous No.18597833]

>>18597274
Not yet.

[Anonymous No.18597912]

Why don't you drink out of your gaiwan like in chynese movies set in older times?

[Anonymous No.18598259]

>>18597037
green, grassy or herbal, often smoky, woody, some acidity, a bit of sweetness, somewhat bitter
there is a lot of yebra mate mixed with mint on the market too

[Anonymous No.18598436]

>>18598259
Crazy. I like coffee (including degen lattes etc) and teas so I guess I might try it. I'll sometimes drink 5 or more cups of tea a day since the weather in my area even filtered is kinda of weird. Do you get a lot of drinks out of the 500 kg bags?

[Anonymous No.18598503]

>>18598436
depends how strong you want your drinks to be. should be enough for around a month if you drink it every day I think

[Anonymous No.18598517]

>>18598436
Yerba tastes like an ashtray

[Anonymous No.18598609]

>>18598503
Thanks.
>>18598517
I sure hope not.

[Anonymous No.18598629]

>>18598517
I like the smokier yerba mates. Would I like smoked lapsang?

[Anonymous No.18598684]

>>18588431
Does this still taste the same as a stainless steel gourd?

[Anonymous No.18598734]

>>18597185
this is me but with buying tea

[Anonymous No.18598777]

>>18598629
>I like the smokier yerba mates. Would I like smoked lapsang?
Yes, lapasang is usually smoked with pine, which i think is different than the woods they use for yerba so it will have a little bit different smoke flavor. Lapsang is really good, it has a rich smokey flavor and the tea itself is smooth and mellow. Really enjoyable stuff.

[Anonymous No.18598784]

>>18598734
Look i can quit buying tea anytime i want, im just grabbing a few cakes this week.

[Anonymous No.18598872]

>>18598784
so my stash now fills an entire set of drawers, i'll just buy a new one...
not kidding, i have a set of drawers full and a stack of cakes sitting on my pc and 5 bags on a table

[Anonymous No.18598880]

For the first time in two years i have actually ran out of shu. Not that i drink it daily or even that regularly, but ive always had some on hand for a sip when i wanted it. Now that i dont have any on hand i realize how much i actually like ripes as a comfort brew.
I know there have been a couple post the last threads about ripe recommendations, but what are your comfort ripe? im gonna have to put in a decent order for black friday i think

[Anonymous No.18598968]

>>18598880
I feel similarly, i don't drink a ton of ripe but im usually bummed when i run out.
Get some fuhai cakes or kilo bricks from these guys
http://www.pu-erhtea.com/
Ive been really happy with the ripes ive gotten from them

[Anonymous No.18598982]

>>18587704
Its cheap. Buy a few bags, drink 100 cups and get back to us. I love merced barbacua and view the guarani yellow bag stuff to be folgers quality (would drink at a shitty worksite or church but never by choice). Dont steep it too hot- you really can scorch this stuff. Saturating with tepid water initially helps with this too

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[Anonymous No.18599007]

>>18598872
Time to buy another cabinet

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[Anonymous No.18599017]

>>18587484
new
>>18599014
>>18599014
>>18599014