/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.18377796]

there's ground beef, pork, chicken, turkey, etc
but why isn't ground fish a thing? just mulch all the bycatch up
closest thing would be like imitation crab but that has a lot of stuff added to it

[Anonymous No.18377804]

fish meat doesn't behave the same way mammal meat does.
when you grind it up it turns into mashed potatoes, which is why you have surimi and fishcakes instead of fish mince.

[Anonymous No.18377807]

can't you flake it by yourself?

[Anonymous No.18377812]

>>18377796
isnt that literally what chum is?

[Anonymous No.18377813]

>>18377804
>birds are mammals

[Anonymous No.18377816]

>>18377813
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.18377817]

that's what fish balls are

[Anonymous No.18377820]

>>18377813
Aren't they?

[Anonymous No.18377824]

>>18377796
>why isn't ground fish a thing?
Fish no go on ground, fish go in water.

[Anonymous No.18377827]

>>18377804

[Anonymous No.18377832]

>>18377816
Touché.

[Anonymous No.18377843]

>>18377796
It is. It's called imitation crab.

[Anonymous No.18377880]

>>18377843

[Anonymous No.18377883]

>>18377812
to the best my knowledge chum isn't intended for human consumption

>>18377817
>>18377843
yeah i know products containing ground fish and bulked out with fillers exist, i'm just curious why straight up ground fish meat isn't widely marketed

[Anonymous No.18377893]

>>18377820
all birds are dinosaurs
all dinosaurs are reptiles

[Anonymous No.18377903]

>>18377883
>i'm just curious why straight up ground fish meat isn't widely marketed
because it goes bad.

[Anonymous No.18377920]

>>18377893
birds express milk. milkies means mammals.

[Anonymous No.18377921]

>>18377903
even when frozen?
i only ask because when i worked at a food bank we were handing out logs of super generic frozen meat and i have a hard time seeing how fish wouldn't work in this situation

[Anonymous No.18377933]

>>18377883
Because you [likely] live in Ameriland, as evidenced by your use of the term "ground" v "minced" and your inclusion of turkey as a commonplace meat.
The reason it's not commonly available where you live is a simple matter of supply and demand: just as turkey mince isn't commonly available where I'm from as there's not really any demand for it, fish mince isn't commonly available where you are for the same reason.
Were there a greater demand, sure enough, someone would provide it.
A note: in order to run fish through a mincer effectively, it's best to salt it first to leech out some of its water. This firms up the flesh so that the result looks more like >>18377827 and less like a smooth paste. You may rinse it after to remove some of the excess salt if you'd like but strictly speaking, it's not necessary.

>>18377903
Nah. It's really about demand.
For example, there's not much demand in the US for lamb mince, right? So Walmart and the like don't typically carry any, especially not in Babyjesusburg, Statesota.

[Anonymous No.18377934]

>>18377893
Yeah dinosaurs. The giant monster lizards that ruled the earth for millions of years but nobody found any evidence of them until 150 years ago despite them being everywhere and only requiring a little digging to find. Those dinosaurs that are definitely real. This is a replica skeleton actually the real one is at a different museum. Most of it is a reconstruction anyway we only actually found a couple bones. Well we're pretty sure they're bones. They had feathers, you know. Dinosaurs.

[Anonymous No.18377947]

>>18377921
>even when frozen?
the fish are frozen whole right on the boat.

[Anonymous No.18377955]

>>18377920
Birds considered Aves idiot, they lay eggs etc

This is childrens biology christ lmao

[Anonymous No.18377957]

>>18377955
if they milk, they're mammals.

[Anonymous No.18377958]

>>18377934
Ah yes, the "devil is a dick" theory of fossils. He planted those "bones" all over the world to make us think the earth is older than 6k years because reasons.

[Anonymous No.18377965]

>>18377920
crop milk is not breast milk
soy milk is not breast milk
>>18377934
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.18377970]

>>18377958
No wait this just in they didn't have feathers. Your biology e-textbook and online dictionary have been automatically updated. Thank you for your compliance. For your safety be sure to report any racists that still use old unscientific feathered drawings of dinosaurs which are real.

[Anonymous No.18377993]

>>18377934
>but nobody found any evidence of them until 150 years ago
Greek writers mentioned fossils as early as 6th century bce
China has been digging up dinosaurs and grinding them up into medicine for about as long if not longer, under the impression that the fossils are dragon bones.

[Anonymous No.18378001]

>>18377993
actually this has been debunked

[Anonymous No.18378004]

>>18378001
ok.

[Anonymous No.18378022]

>>18377812

[Anonymous No.18378030]

>>18378001
It's good for selling books to morons, like lizard people and flying saucers, it's spooky and sells.

[Anonymous No.18378187]

>>18377933
yeah i'm a burger, but i haven't seen it anywhere i've traveled
if it was going to be anywhere it'd be in asia but the only things i've seen are assorted fish ball and surimi products
i have not, to my knowledge, seen straight up minced fish in a store or stall

[Anonymous No.18378333]

>>18378187
>the only things i've seen are assorted fish ball and surimi products
you can buy the precursors to fishballs and fishcake, as well as more exotic kinds of fish meat, and it literally IS bits of flaked fish meat. but nobody fucking eats it that way anon, people vastly prefer the formed forcemeat kind

>>18377796
>just mulch all the bycatch up
What do you think picrel is, anon?

fyi this stuff used to be cat food, until people decided it was rather a waste of perfectly decent fish meat

[Anonymous No.18378340]

>>18377955
Mammals lay eggs too, dipshit.

[Anonymous No.18378460]

>>18378333
tuna is the intended catch though
in the process they catch a bunch of other fish that isn't of any commercial value so they just toss all the bodies over the side
seems like such a waste

[Anonymous No.18378468]

>>18378460
oh I missed that you're talking about *bycatch*, not just fish flake

usable fish go for actual cat food probably, unusable fish probably aren't worth it

[Anonymous No.18378837]

>>18378468
i just figured if they can make chicken nuggets out of chicken slime presumably blended fish wouldn’t be all that different

[Anonymous No.18378854]

>>18378837
chicken "slime" is at least all the same damn species

[Anonymous No.18378869]

Would you grind this up?

[Anonymous No.18378896]

[Anonymous No.18379315]

In Asia fish is minced to make fish balls

[Anonymous No.18379603]

Easily available here. It's used for fiskefrikadeller.

[Anonymous No.18379629]

>>18379603
looks good, kinda like a crab cake
What am I looking at?

[Anonymous No.18379637]

>>18377824
LMAO

[Anonymous No.18379650]

>>18377813
Ground chicken and ground turkey both grind into almost a paste like substance, but not to the extent of ground fish

[Anonymous No.18379660]

>>18379629
Fiskefrikakdelle - usually made from white fish like flatfish or cod (more expensive) with what looks like a homemade Danish-style remoulade sauce on the side.

[Anonymous No.18379694]

>>18378187
Pretty much the only thing you do with ground fish is turn it into fish balls and surimi, and the process is such a fucking hassle, filleting a whole fish and throwing it in the food processor is the easiest step. It's like the same reason you don't get packages of pre-separated egg yolks unless you're buying for industrial purposes.

[Anonymous No.18379707]

>>18379637
>$1.50
Thats more then the pack of shitdogs

[Anonymous No.18379709]

>>18377796
>but why isn't ground fish a thing?

It's called cans of tuna. Ground fish would have a gross texture and it would be hard to incorporate it into food. Fish is meant to be served as a fillet.

[Anonymous No.18379726]

>>18377993
>bce

[Anonymous No.18379836]

>>18379709
See >>18377827

[Anonymous No.18379916]

Fish paste/spread is a thing, if that counts.

[Anonymous No.18381028]

>>18377813
yes