/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.18369370]

How do we make meats less cancerific? Make the animals actually eat greens instead of corn?

[Anonymous No.18369374]

meat is preventing that you plantbrain

[Anonymous No.18369377]

>>18369370
Who cares? Every one dies, I'd rather live 70 years eating meat than 80 eating bugs

[Anonymous No.18369397]

>>18369377
Fucking this. I'd rather keep eating meat and die a bit earlier. Besides, who is happy and 80? Nobody, it's like working fucking overtime.

[Anonymous No.18369402]

>>18369397
Whenever you talk to old people about living longer they always say shit like "I hope not"

[Anonymous No.18369403]

>>18369397
>>18369377
that is a myth by BIG VEGAN, so eat meat but stay away from sneed oils and processed carbs, not a ketofag but just stay away from things touched by jews is a good rule of thumb.

[Anonymous No.18369408]

>>18369377
>Every one dies
but not everyone dies a painful agonizing death from cancer
there's no need to eat ze bugs, just don't eat so much meat.

[Anonymous No.18369412]

>>18369408
eat more meat, anyone advocacting for less meat is always an evil antihuman jew or brainwashed goy

[Anonymous No.18369414]

>>18369370
Literally just stop using nitrates. Outlaw that shit. It's that easy.

[Anonymous No.18369446]

>>18369370
Meat doesn't cause cancer. It's vegan propaganda.

[Anonymous No.18369448]

>>18369412
damn son they really did a number on you

[Anonymous No.18369450]

>>18369377
you don't need meat or bugs...

[Anonymous No.18369453]

>>18369448
https://youtu.be/knqq12MM1Gs

who's they?

[Anonymous No.18369462]

>>18369402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYo46ka3fgs

[Anonymous No.18369463]

>>18369403
>sneed oils

https://www.consumerreports.org/healthy-eating/do-seed-oils-make-you-sick-a1363483895/

[Anonymous No.18369466]

Let's put aside the fact that people, cultural differences aside, have largely been eating red meat for millennia. American settlers for the past 250 years have been eating a diet prevalent in red meat. Red meat was affordable even for poor people in the 1700's and 1800's. But cancer rates have only been bad for what, the past 70 years? So why is red meat suddenly the enemy? And not, perhaps, what manufacturers are putting in red meat?

[Anonymous No.18369478]

>>18369463
I don't need to read a jewish sponsored article on seed oils, they are bad period.

[Anonymous No.18369492]

>>18369466
I would imagine a lot of those early people you talk about did in fact have and die from cancer, they just didn't know what it was.

[Anonymous No.18369501]

THE VEGAN SCIENCE SAYS MEAT BAD. EAT SOY PRODUCT AND BUGS.

>>18369462
What a fucking pussy faggot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpIpGmxalBs

[Anonymous No.18369535]

>>18369501
Just let the man die. He obviously doesn't give a shit about anything anymore.

[Anonymous No.18369538]

>>18369466
>So why is red meat suddenly the enemy
Look at a vegan and you know. The retards at the top want you weak. Thats why.

[Anonymous No.18369548]

>>18369501
based old woman

[Anonymous No.18369552]

>>18369370
Processed meats don't cause cancer because they are meat, they cause cancer becat of the ingredients added to the meat and the process they use to make it
If you buy your salami from an old farmer living in Italy's countryside you are definitely safe

[Anonymous No.18369556]

>>18369552
this

[Anonymous No.18369559]

>>18369552
Don't they use nitrates also?

[Anonymous No.18369575]

Stop eating meat, Chuds.
In order to avoid cancer you should fast for years.

[Anonymous No.18369599]

>>18369575
Best way to avoid cancer is to put a bullet to your brain.

[Anonymous No.18369616]

>>18369370
>How do we make meats less cancerific?
What's the point? Anything that promotes cell growth promotes cancer. Because cancer is the uncontrolled growth of your cells. Anything that makes your body do its thing better increases the chance of your body breaking the limit.

[Anonymous No.18369648]

>>18369463
>so much advertising the page doesn't stay still long enough to read it
I'm out

[Anonymous No.18370103]

>>18369463
On what planet do you think that shit like this is convincing anyone of anything?

[Anonymous No.18370257]

>>18369575
someone like you will die far earlier and in far worse shape
someone post the picture of the tranny guy with the avocado, you know the one

[Anonymous No.18370296]

>being afraid of death

ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.18370311]

>>18369552
>If you buy your salami from an old farmer living in Italy's countryside you are definitely safe
He's using nitrates (aka pink salts) too you absolute dribbling retard. When you talk about things you know nothing about, everyone is worse off. Stop spreading lies you degenerate piece of shit subhuman.

[Anonymous No.18370338]

>>18369450
>just survive on incomplete plant proteins lol
Legitimately dumb post

[Anonymous No.18370396]

>>18369370
>probably
disregarded

[Anonymous No.18370478]

>>18370311
>When you talk about things you know nothing about, everyone is worse off. Stop spreading lies you degenerate piece of shit subhuman.
Tell that to the vegan shills who keep making these retarded threads.

[Anonymous No.18370507]

>>18369403
ignore whatever this guy says, since he's retarded.

[Anonymous No.18370518]

>>18369412
so let me get this straight the jews don't want me to eat meat? how does that profit them? also the jews want me to eat meat, but they also want me to eat bugs, and fake meat and vegan and take the vaccine but not take the vaccine. and they control everything but they are dumb and you figured it out, and tump doesn't like them, but he's a rich guy and all rich guys are jews, unless they say they are not...

[Anonymous No.18370531]

>>18369478
so jews are now asians?

son... I think you need to rethink your life decisions.

[Anonymous No.18370550]

>>18370531
>the writer is the sponsor of the article
Retard.

[Anonymous No.18370575]

>>18369403
>stay away from sneed oils
I have a policy of ignoring health "advice" that comes from the following:
government studies
studies by corporations
anything posted on tiktok (actually I don't even watch it at all).
anything from facebook
random youtubers
uneducated family members
any news media
instagram
fellow office workers
frog posters
religious nuts (vegans included in that)
anyone that uses the term sneed

I'm 56 years old and throughout my life practically everything has at one time been the worst thing you could eat or the cure for everything. you're all full of shit.
dumb bunch of primates all of you. all you all do is eat, fuck, fight, do some kind of drugs, and almost all of you make shit decisions then scream and yell for someone else to rescue you.

fuckers are all doomed.

[Anonymous No.18370581]

>>18370550
Sharon Liao the fucking filthy jew!

[Anonymous No.18370613]

>>18370581
Sharon Liao is the WRITER of the article, NOT the SPONSOR of the article. You fucking absolute retard. Learn English.

[Anonymous No.18370630]

>>18370613
you know how stupid you morons sound? do you?

it's dah joos! man up and take responsibility for yourself. stop blaming some nefarious bugaboo. wooooooo! the jooooooss! THERESONE! wooooooo! jews everywhere.

fuckin tired of it, it's old and only your little echo chamber of morons believes it. go be retarded somewhere else.

I'm taking a break from this retardathon so don't bother replying I won't see it.

[Anonymous No.18370638]

>>18370575
so that leaves you eating what, grass?

[Anonymous No.18370676]

>>18370630
t. jidf shill

[Anonymous No.18370705]

>>18370630
remain ignorant

[Anonymous No.18370723]

>>18369408
i've thought about the best ways to die including where, how, whos there, what people think of you after, your age, etc and dying of cancer young is one of the best. has one of the only things suicide doesnt have, dying peacefully with attention and people at your side. i would get a peaceful plus dramatic moment on the golden gate bridge if those sick fucks didnt add suicide nets.

[Anonymous No.18370754]

>>18370478
>Vegan

Picture is only about red meats. You can still eat fish and chicken.

[Anonymous No.18370785]

>>18370723
yeah I'm sure the day you die is nice
the months of agony before that day aren't

[Anonymous No.18370786]

>>18370785
as someone who has broken his leg as a kid i confirm those were the best weeks of my life

[Anonymous No.18370788]

>>18369414
Outlaw sea salt?

[Anonymous No.18370845]

>>18370785
>source: i made it up

[Anonymous No.18370856]

>>18370786
>>18370845
now you guys are just being silly

[Anonymous No.18370916]

>>18369397
What you’re missing is that your 70 becomes their 80. So you just start feeling like shit earlier. Furthermore most people are desperate to have a few more years when they’re on their way out.

[Anonymous No.18370956]

>>18369501
its a striking feeling watching this ancient woman who found a partner, a passion, and raised multiple children still accomplish things at such a an age, while I am just a 24 year old man looking for any reason to stay in this world.
whats the point if ill never live a life even half as full as that?

[Anonymous No.18372033]

I wonder if there is any difference between "normal" processed meats and smoked ones? I catch flak for being the only one in my family who doesn't like smoked bacon, when to me it smells and tastes disgusting. I wonder if there is a difference between traditional smoking and probably what they do today which is pump in some smoke flavor additive.

[Anonymous No.18372058]

>>18370956
wouldnt it be sick if you live to like 110 and accomplish nothing tho

[Anonymous No.18372077]

>>18369370
Eating meat is "cancerous" at the biochemical level, i.e., the process of breaking the proteins into energy and biomolecules produces byproducts that attack your own cells. Your body's repair mechanism can tolerate a moderate amount meat but if you're obese, sick or old, then the repair rate falls behind the damage rate = cancer.

[Anonymous No.18372379]

>>18369466
No. New Englanders ate mostly peas and grains.

[Anonymous No.18372387]

>>18372379
I also remember an interview from an old documentary about Appalachia, and one of the people who grew up poor there talking about how the only meat they got was whatever rabbit or bird the could occasionally shoot.

[Anonymous No.18372394]

>>18372033
supermarket "bacon" no longer is smoked or even has smoke flavoring in it, no matter what it says on the label.

Real bacon stopped being sold in store some time in the late 70's early 80's. since that time the "smoke" flavoring has been added less and less.

probably in response to tastelet pussies that don't like flavor in their food.

now to get real bacon you have to order it from some place on line like Fathers.

I kept wondering why the bacon I was buying never tasted like it did when I was a kid. Real bacon is so smokey it sets off your smoke alarm when you open the package.

modern "people" are shit.

[Anonymous No.18372402]

>>18372077
you have no idea what cancer is or how it works.

>>18369466
this is completely false. only rich to very rich people had a diet with tons of red meat in it (or meat at all). poor people ate bread, vegetables, and whatever small fury animals they could trap (if there were any).

cancer has always been with humans and has little to do with diet. more to do with genetics.

>>18370638
no I eat whatever I feel like.

[Anonymous No.18372494]

Meat itself doesn't cause cancer. Processed meats cause cancer because they contain carcinogenic additives. Red meat causes cancer because carcinogenic chemicals are produced when red meat is cooked.

[Anonymous No.18372517]

>>18369370
>How do we make meats less cancerific?
Conduct the study in a fair and realistic manner.

[Anonymous No.18372523]

>>18369370
Anyone who tries to get me to stop eating hot dogs, bacon, or salami is going to get powdered Americium-241 forcibly injected into his medulla oblongata. Who's at risk of cancer now, genius? I will not eat the bugs.
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST

[Anonymous No.18372529]

>>18369466
Cancer rates are going up because people are living long enough to die from cancer instead of other shit.
If you live long enough you WILL get cancer.

[Anonymous No.18372535]

Ground up meat: BAD

Processed soy and seed oils with artificial preservatives and xenoestrogens, created hexane solvents and acids, and marinated in liquid smoke and artificial flavors, held together with xanthan gum: MMMMMM SO HEALTHY AND GOOD FOR YOU! NO CANCER HERE!

[Anonymous No.18372560]

>>18372387
Pease pudding hot,
pease pudding cold,
pease pudding in the pot,
nine days old.

[Anonymous No.18372568]

EVERYTHING Causes cancer.

Too much sunlight? Cancer. Not enough sunlight? Cancer. Too much meat? Cancer Not enough meat? Cancer.


Just fuckin' live, mate.

[Anonymous No.18372737]

>>18369370
Meat consumption leading to an increased cancer risk isn't an agreed on fact, or at least the extent and relevance of it.
Nutritional studies in general have a tendency to be limited.
There was a meta analysis of multiple hundred studies and the improvement of cancer risks following a reduction in consumption was considered very small to unnoticeable.

>>18369414
>>18370311
While sodium nitrate is considered a risk, under high heat it can form the carcinogenic nitrosamine, it's not that big of an issue at its core.
As long as temperatures stay below 170°c/340°f, it isn't very acidic or contains vitamin C or E nitrosamine won't form.
So if you boil there is no risk, adding vitamins helps preventing formation

[Anonymous No.18372789]

>>18370788
Find the asshole who told you sea salt = sodium nitrate and slap them for me.

[Anonymous No.18373229]

>>18372523
>I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I hate trump and qanon too.

[Anonymous No.18373237]

>>18370676
>>18370705
that's it? that's all you got? all you can do is call someone a jew? tranny? troon? schizo? incel? or reddit? don't jew have a real insult? something orijewnal? I've been on 4chan since around 2007 when moot was still here. It's all the same init?

you're tired and old. the "insults" carry no weight anymore. jew used them so much jew probably see that word everywhere even where it's not.

jew are a sad example of "human" life. jew have no effect on anyone no one is insulted by what jew say anymore.

don't worry I don't want to be a woman.

[Anonymous No.18373240]

>>18369377
not with processed meat
i don't care how old i will die, but i don't want to die because of ass cancer

[Anonymous No.18373256]

>>18373237
tl;dr

[Anonymous No.18373272]

>>18369408
>>18369450
>>18369575
>>18373233
t. Soy only diet enthusiast taking regular anally supplemented protein injections.

[Anonymous No.18373546]

>>18369370
the two leading causes of death for vegans is cancer and heart disease
meat does not cause cancer, it is a dysfunction of the mitochondria

we have eaten meat for 2-4 million years, and never before have we had all these diseases
https://youtu.be/1ebPZP9hBPA

[Anonymous No.18373581]

>>18372387
yankees git out REEEEEE

[Anonymous No.18373592]

How do I eat healthy in 10 words or less?

[Anonymous No.18373604]

>>18369370
Living causes cancer. It is the great cleanser to make sure that you don't live too long.

[Anonymous No.18373607]

>>18372535
So, you're saying I CAN become a woman if I just eat a couple of impossible burgers? Fucking based my HRT costs just went down 1000$. Surely EIGHTEEN MILLION TIMES MORE ESTROGEN is enough to turn anyone completely girly and it's not just a retarded journalist numbers game with not enough actual content to matter unless you ate a thousand a day, surely?

[Anonymous No.18373615]

>>18373607
You may be able to alter your appearance with the use of hormones, but it will never make a man into a woman or vice versa.

[Anonymous No.18373622]

>>18373592
eat
chicken
breasts
nigger

[Anonymous No.18373633]

>>18373615
>Legally change gender in identification
>Manage to alter body through surgery, HRT and exercise to pass for 99.9% of people
>Everyone calls them "mam" even subconsciously without prompt and without mistake
>Date and fuck using phone apps
Seems like they don't need anything else as a modern human. One never meets people screaming tranny in real life after all.

[Anonymous No.18373641]

>>18373622
Chicken ain't nutritionally complete you damn chicken washing salmonella bitch.

[Anonymous No.18373642]

>>18373633
Still not a woman, though.

[Anonymous No.18373649]

>>18373642
>Get everything
>But this anon on the internet won't categorically put you in the hard xx chromosome box
You got yourself a deal.

[Anonymous No.18373666]

>>18373649
>Get everything
Oh, so you have a functioning womb?

[Anonymous No.18373681]

>>18373633
>>Manage to alter body through surgery, HRT and exercise to pass for 99.9% of people
Sounds like mental illness to me.

[Anonymous No.18373683]

it's the nitric compounds used to preserve these meats that carries an acute cancer risk, everything else is just clickbait-fearmongering

[Anonymous No.18373726]

Meat itself isn't carcinogenic, it's the overcooking of the meat (ie creation of carbon) that is carcinogenic. But the same is true of all food. Small goods meats at carcinogenic because of the additives and processes used on the meat. But the same is true of a veg sushi roll.

The risk of cancer rises exponentially every decade you live after 60 regardless of lifestyle.

[Anonymous No.18374127]

Anything that promotes cell growth increases risk of cancer

[Anonymous No.18374145]

>>18373683
Specifically heating the nitrates (artifical or natural so celery/sea salt) next to protein that creates various kinds of nitrosamines which are the cancer risk. Just how it goes but I eat smoked fish everyday so w/e

[Anonymous No.18374165]

>>18369370
The "causes cancer" image there is based on eating a hot dog every single day and results in a barely noticeable increase in GI cancer rates. Even if you eat nothing but hot dogs, you're more likely to die in a car crash on the way to the grocery store than to get GI cancer.

I will NOT eat the bugs

[Anonymous No.18374173]

I just eat whatever existed 1000 years ago. If it didn't exist until the industrial revolution, sorry schlomo, I'm not eating it.
That means I don't eat seed oils, soy product, doritos, or any other goyslop.

[Anonymous No.18374176]

>>18373726
>(ie creation of carbon)

What's the difference between burnt meat and these things used to treat stomach problems?

[Anonymous No.18374180]

>>18374165
Doesn't red meat give you colon and ass cancer?

[Anonymous No.18374236]

>>18373229
And I hate faggots

[Anonymous No.18374291]

>>18374173
please post a list of your 1000 year old foods anon? it should feature lots of nasty bitter plants, bugs, and maybe a couple of squirrels and rabbits. because wherever people settled they wiped out most of the larger animals within 1 generation.

if you get it from a grocery store, open market, or even grow it yourself it's from the last 100 years..

[Anonymous No.18374295]

>>18374236
me too so I probably hate you as well.

[Anonymous No.18374297]

>>18374291
Cope and seethe. You've never read a history book in your life. People have been farming livestock including cows for over 2000 years.

[Anonymous No.18374304]

>>18374297
so you only eat beef from strains that were around 1000 years? [citation needed] all beef is from cattle bred from the last 100 years.

[Anonymous No.18374305]

>>18369370
Eat turkeys, those ugly bastards are delicious.

[Anonymous No.18374308]

1) Depends what kind of cancer. Colon is easy to catch nowadays.
2) Depends how much consumption.
3) "probably causes cancer" = it doesn't, they just assume it does because red meat bad for you, someone who eats a lot of meat will be living unhealthily otherwise, and more likely than not they're just hostile to red meat because of environmentalism.

>>18369466
It's a bit of survivorship bias that we have far more knowledge about cancers today whereas back then while they had a vague conception of it they didn't have the knowledge we do, or the ability to determine it precisely. The big problem is that the science community shit the bed with their trust and honesty and the media's reporting on
>Everything causes cancer
has people going boy who cried wolf. It's also suspicious when I am told that magically and conveniently the most environmentally friendly foods are also the healthiest/least likely to cause disease. If your studies reveal that what you are biased to and advocating for always wins out, it starts to sound like propaganda more than science. I mean when a recent medical body came out and said "Yeah meat isn't bad for you" it had a scientists kvetching and citing climate change explicitly. Which is a nonsequitor to the question of "does meat cause cancer".

[Anonymous No.18374344]

>>18374304
That is irrelevant; the chemical composition of beef is unchanged. You are arguing for the sake of argument because you're insecure about your terrible industrial diet. Isn't it about time for you to resupply on chips?

[Anonymous No.18374352]

>>18374308
>survivorship bias
So that's what it's called.
I know exactly what it is and to what your picture refers but I never learned the term. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.18374436]

>>18369370
There is no rigorous evidence that red meat or processed meat causes cancer

[Anonymous No.18374524]

[Anonymous No.18374829]

I would rather die at 80 eating whatever I want than be on a strict diet of vegetables and beans and live to be 90.

[Anonymous No.18374838]

>>18374829
Your sedentary ass isn't living until 80

[Anonymous No.18374847]

>>18369559
Lmao, you must be American.

[Anonymous No.18374878]

>>18374847
>So desperate to "own the amerilards" that he doesn't realize common curing salts, or even celery seeds, contain nitrates/nitrites
What do you think the traditional methods use to cure meats? Leprechaun dust and spring water? Do you seriously think that Americans invented nitrates/nitrites or curing salts? Or are you just stupid and think the traditional methods are just some dude hanging up wet, unseasoned sausage in his basement and letting it air dry?

[Anonymous No.18375160]

>>18372387
>>18372379
absolutely grim tbqh

[Anonymous No.18375172]

>>18369463
Ahhhh, the old "Snopes" gambit.
>FALSE: But not really, here are some cherrypicked and strawmanned arguements to convince you...
>>18369492
The Egyptians knew what cancer was, it's in their medical writings. It was just WAY RARER then.
It's not just food though, we've been toxifying our environment for profit in non-organic ways for at least 100 years. The ACS was running a radio spot just 3 months ago stating that the rates of cancer in Burgerland is 1 in 3 for women and 1 in 2 for men over a lifetime.
That shit ISN'T normal.
One might even get the impression that the combination of modern diet and medicine contribute VASTLY to fueling the money machine that is the modern medical establishment-- Sure, some people do well with a vegetarian diet, some with an almost exclusively meat and vegetables, genetics make that happen, but whatever you do, EAT NATURALLY, and stay as FAR AWAY from MODERN "DOCTORS" as possible, barring broken bones or necessary surgeries.

[Anonymous No.18375201]

>>18372523
>powdered Americium-241
So THAT'S why all those broken smoke detectors are piled up behind the shed.
(Psst, I hate the antichrist too...)

[Anonymous No.18375206]

>>18373592
Cook your own foods from non GMO/chemically enhanced sources.

[Anonymous No.18375220]

So many shills itt, they fear the meat eater. Seethe faggots

[Anonymous No.18375684]

>>18369370
You make them out of PUFA, soy and specially bugs! You dumb CHUDS!!

[Anonymous No.18375693]

>>18375201
>Seed Oils
>Increase in diabetes

Why would they assume it's seed oils and not Coca Cola or a general increase in junk food and a sedentary lifestyle?

[Anonymous No.18375704]

>>18369370
>we should stop eating meat because it causes cancer
>becomes vegetarian
>hi all, just reporting in, I HAVE CANCER NOW!!!!!
>but just think how much sooner I would have gotten it if I continued to eat meat

I'll keep eating meat thanks. Stop telling people what they should eat. Let people decide for themselves.

[Anonymous No.18375712]

>>18370916
this is the bit everyone forgets when they say "who cares if I live 10 or 20 less years"
because the years you still do live will be spent with more chronic pain, sickness, decreased mobility, shortness of breath, etc etc
not that I necessarily agree with what the OP is implying, just talking about being fat and unhealthy in general

[Anonymous No.18375745]

>>18369370
>ugh these red meats those chuds eat are so carcinogenic!
>*goes back to devouring heavily processed & fortified foods daily*

leftoids genuinely suffer from psychosis at this point, these people need to be put out of their misery soon

[Anonymous No.18375820]

>>18370518
Those backwards subversive little shapeshifters took my foreskin. Fuck em

[Anonymous No.18375878]

>>18372523
>I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
that was nero. do some research

[Anonymous No.18375882]

im plannig on dying at 34 of a MASSIVE heart attack idgaf about cancer

[Anonymous No.18375886]

>>18374344
you're lying anyways just to virtue signal. go be full of shit someplace else.

[Anonymous No.18375890]

>>18374524
oh dear nitrates cause cancer?

hope you don't eat celery anon you're in for a surprise.

[Anonymous No.18375895]

>>18375820
jews don't circumcise people in regular old hospitals blame your doctor who's been relying on bullshit science.

[Anonymous No.18376789]

>>18375886
The fact that you think I'm lying really betrays how cucked your diet is. It's not even hard to eat like this. Yesterday I ate eggs cooked in lard, some sourdough bread (5 ingredients), pork cutlets breaded served with an Arrabbiata sauce, side of rutabaga.
Simple, clean, millennia-old cooking.