/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.18368848]

Does your country use a health star system so that people are healthy?

[Anonymous No.18368887]

>>18368848
Kind of, we have something they call a Nutri-Score (Nutritional Score) but its a retarded system easily abused.

Lots of very unhealthy food gets a Nutri Score of A, B or even a high C because they will say on the packaging that the entire box is 3-4 servings.
The nutri-score is not made up on the entirety of the packaging but by what the manufacturer claims is a single portion, so the bad shit gets cut up into smaller portions and thus the score goes up.

That the portion size is inherently made up and doesn't matter and is literally abused to get a good nutri-score is nothing the state is concerned about

[Anonymous No.18368913]

>>18368848
So we finally corrected it from just being fat-based because of the fucking retards in charge? so much sugary shit was still 4+ while everything fatty was sub 2 star.

When did this happen?

[Anonymous No.18368947]

>>18368848
How is Diet cola healthier than 100 per cent juice?
Diet cola is sweetened with carcinogenic artificial sweeteners and has basically no nutritional value. Is it the sugar in the juice that makes the health star low? Regular fruit has sugar, you know.

[Anonymous No.18368987]

All these rating systems are just a scam to sell vegshit frankenfood.

[Anonymous No.18369007]

>>18368947

Health ratings are for morbidly obese people who guzzle drinks by the gallon. Preventing that much sugar and calories is healthier for them.

[Anonymous No.18369016]

>>18368848
I bet your shithole of a country rates a steak low because they can't afford it.

[Anonymous No.18369023]

>>18369007
How do you explain the strawberry flavoured milk? It has more sugar than the 100 per cent juice.

[Anonymous No.18369030]

So is untasty cheese better or worse?

[Anonymous No.18369057]

>cheese is worse than processed puffed corn with artificial flavoring

[Anonymous No.18369068]

>>18368913
As far as I can tell these changes came in 2020.
>>18368947
>>18369057
>How is Diet cola healthier than 100 per cent juice?
The ratings are categorised. You aren't comparing milk to chips to juice, you're comparing products in each category.
>Diet cola is sweetened with carcinogenic artificial sweeteners and has basically no nutritional value.
The ratings don't include broscience about artificial sweeteners.

[Anonymous No.18369083]

>>18369068
>The ratings are categorised
Diet cola, orange juice and strawberry flavoured milk are all drinks. Isn’t the health star rating supposed to help you pick the healthiest one and not get the diet cola?

[Anonymous No.18369086]

>coke is healthier than fruit

[Anonymous No.18369092]

>>18369086
Brando the thirst mutilator

[Anonymous No.18369096]

>>18368848
the cheese is literally the most healthy thing on that list and it still deserves a one star

[Anonymous No.18369102]

>>18368947
All soda is for goycattle, but as someone with kids I know juice is fucking terrible for you. It is a massive increase in risk of cavities and fucks up your blood sugar because you're drinking the equivalent of 10 fruits in one small box. I essentially never let my kids drink juice. All that said it should be higher than soda.

[Anonymous No.18369124]

>>18368848
No. People here aren't retarded.

[Anonymous No.18369133]

>>18369083
Dairy based drinks have their own category.

[Anonymous No.18369143]

>>18368848
How the fuck is strawberry milk higher than diet soda?
How the fuck is dried fruit popular?

[Anonymous No.18369148]

>>18368848
>strawberry flavored milk
>4 stars

[Anonymous No.18369150]

>>18369143
australia is a dry place
wet fruit is hard to find I guess

[Anonymous No.18369173]

>>18369150
>Have the most diverse jungle in the world
>80% of the landmass is a dessert
>Unable to terraform because some activist is going to complain that some species of lizard only exist on that dessert
Australians are retarded

[Anonymous No.18369174]

>>18369143
Milk actually has nutrients in it.
The cola is just flavoured water, which isn’t a bad thing if it wasn’t for the shitty ingredients.
Here’s how you flavour water.
>Carbonated spring water, natural flavour

[Anonymous No.18369187]

>>18369173
oh, I'm soooo glad you know about the plight of the *spins wheel* Lake Pedder Earthworm.

[Anonymous No.18369209]

>>18369173
How do you terraform desert? There's no nutrients. Also some of their land has so much salt in it that nothing grows in it.

[Anonymous No.18369223]

>>18369174
Milk has fat and sugar, strawberry milk has even more sugar added
It's fine if you are drinking one glass
At least they could have used regular milk or 1% instead of fucking strawberry milk by that point go all out and suggest people drink chocolate milk with chocolate shavings on top and whipped cream

[Anonymous No.18369230]

>>18369209
You can start by creating rivers which is actually super easy
You can actually build forests in actual sand by planting the right kind of tree and those trees would eventually fix the shitty land quality by themselves

[Anonymous No.18369233]

>>18369174
>Natural Flavor
Nobody has any fucking idea what this means. Why am I supposed to treat seltzer as superior to soda when it's flavored with mystery crap?

[Anonymous No.18369240]

>>18369174
>Lightly sparkling
Garbage

[Anonymous No.18369241]

>>18369230
Oh, ok. You should probably call their PM and tell him about these brilliant ideas you have.

[Anonymous No.18369242]

>>18368848
Tasty cheesebros.......... our star rating... it's too low....

[Anonymous No.18369249]

>>18369230
>You can start by creating rivers which is actually super easy
we're not allowed to terraform abo land, same thing as canadians and their natives. NATO hates whites and what we can create to solve issues.

[Anonymous No.18369260]

>only tasty cheese is a 1 star
what about shitty tasting cheese

[Anonymous No.18369273]

>>18369230
>just pay higher taxes and you can live in a prettier prison

[Anonymous No.18369280]

>>18369233
Coca-Cola also has natural flavours. The biggest problem is actually the sugar or the even worse high-fructose corn syrup.
If you must get a cola get a Zevia Cola or something similar.

[Anonymous No.18369286]

>>18369280
Oops, I forgot the artificial sweeteners in the diet cola, which are even worse than the high-fructose corn syrup.

[Anonymous No.18369294]

>>18369249
Just give them quiet money that's all they want

[Anonymous No.18369297]

>>18369241
Too busy creating women only spaces I guess

[Anonymous No.18369304]

>>18369286
source

[Anonymous No.18369317]

>>18369304
Isn't Aspartime roughly as healthy for you as methanol?

[Anonymous No.18369383]

>>18369304
There are several studies on the subject.
More studies need to be made to reach a final conclusion.
It’s really strange that some people don’t care and just ingest this stuff without it ever have been properly studied.
The 5G in this pic is just a joke, or maybe not, who knows. But everything else actually happened.

[Anonymous No.18369610]

>>18369317
Drinking diet is as healthy as smoking a menthol. Which is as healthy as eating an apple.

[Anonymous No.18369627]

>>18369383
Well, asbestos is a great insulator. We're replacing it with fiberglass, but fiberglass insulation removal has literally exactly the same problems as asbestos.

[Anonymous No.18369636]

>>18368848
>sweetened strawberry milk healthier than cheese

Who the fuck made this?

[Anonymous No.18369643]

>>18369209
Read dune

[Anonymous No.18369650]

>>18368887
Im still laughing at the canned cassoulet getting an A nutriscore. This shit is laughably bulls, i dont know anyone who give it a single thought.

[Anonymous No.18369672]

>>18368848
time to cut out tasty cheese and fruits and replace them with strawberry milk, thanks OP!

[Anonymous No.18370284]

>>18369672
Just make strawberry cheese, it's like concentrated strawberry milk

[Anonymous No.18370293]

Timtam bros...

[Anonymous No.18370299]

>yogurt bad

[Anonymous No.18370303]

>french fries good

[Anonymous No.18370315]

>>18368848
>>18370299
>>18370303
What happened to Australia?

[Anonymous No.18370324]

>>18370315
This must be some kind of propaganda
Those potatoes obviously produced locally while they must be too retarded to figure out yogurt making so they would rather promote something they made instead

[Anonymous No.18370331]

>>18368848
>diet soda
>literally just water
suck my fucking cock

[Anonymous No.18370360]

>2022
>people still don't you that its a jew system where companies pay to get better ratings
eat that goy stop goys

[Anonymous No.18370363]

>>18368848
>cheese
>4 times less healthy than milk full of sugar syrup
>less healthy than fucking Cheese Twisties
>diet cola
>more healthy than fruit juice
Who the hell made this rating system? This is the most retarded shit I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.18370382]

>>18369086
I think they're going by sugar/fructose content. OJ doesn't have any fiber unlike oranges so it gets absorbed much faster.

[Anonymous No.18370384]

>>18369068
>>18369133
Then why are all these things in the same graphic with no indication of categories at all if it's all category-based?

[Anonymous No.18370386]

>>18370382
What is orange juice with pulp

[Anonymous No.18370393]

>>18370386
Majority juice, also for some reason companies still add sugar to it. They never clarified what brand except just "juice", while cola is specifically named...

[Anonymous No.18370394]

>>18368848
>1 star because it's tasty

[Anonymous No.18370419]

>>18370393
That's because the process they use to make the juice removes the flavor so by the point it's ready to be packaged they have to include ways to artificially enhance it otherwise it would taste like shit
This is why supermarkets have their own brands of juice and they include organic in the label

[Anonymous No.18370461]

>>18370393
>They never clarified what brand except just "juice", while cola is specifically named...
Anon, cola is a flavor, not a brand. Coca-Cola, Pepsi, and RC are all examples of brands of cola-flavored soft drinks (and there are many others). "Diet cola" doesn't specify a brand, it's just as generic a term as "orange juice" in that it specifies a flavor (orange/cola) and preparation style (juice/diet) but not a particular brand.

[Anonymous No.18370488]

>>18370461
They clearly didn't say organic orange juice

[Anonymous No.18370744]

>>18368848
So string cheese is half a star healthier than other cheeses because somebody decided it isn't as tasty?

[Anonymous No.18370764]

>>18370744
Most string cheese is skim, which is "good."

[Anonymous No.18371950]

>>18370384
It's probably from a newspaper website that mentions the categories in the article that OP didn't include.

[Anonymous No.18371969]

>>18369068
>you're comparing products in each category.
If so that makes OPs image extremely misleading
fuck I hate journalists so much

[Anonymous No.18372589]

>>18370299
Yogurt is one of the healthiest things someone can eat. I bet fucking cornflakes have 3 or 4 stars.

Anyway if you arent cooking from mostly raw ingredients your eating wrong anyway.

[Anonymous No.18372612]

>>18369294
>>18369317
Who the fuck uses aspartam anymore.
Here they all just switched to Stevia extract.
We probably don't know if it's better than aspartam but at least it's not aspartam.

[Anonymous No.18372615]

>>18370363
Cheese is fucking awful for nutrition, brah
Not saying sugar yogurt is better but still.

[Anonymous No.18372641]

>>18368947
because it is? juice is fucking terrible for you

[Anonymous No.18372655]

>>18372615
>Cheese is fucking awful for nutrition,
Why? It's like concentrated milk. Full of calcium and vitamin D.

[Anonymous No.18372662]

>>18372612
>Who the fuck uses aspartam anymore.
Just about every major diet soda producer in the US. Coke Zero uses aspartame, for instance. Only the smaller hipster brands catering to hippie moms use more expensive sweeteners like stevia.

[Anonymous No.18372703]

>>18369023
it's weighted

[Anonymous No.18372708]

>drink glass of orange juice while health rating is 5 stars
>mid drink, goes down to 2

>suddenly, get nauseous and throw up, gain 10 pounds and nose starts bleeding

what ?

[Anonymous No.18372719]

>>18372708
the new health star formula weighs sugar content more heavily negative than it used to but also weighs things like nutrient density and protein content more positively than it used to.

ergo, fruit juice which has the sugar content of some sodas and is the #1 cause of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, but provides minimal micronutrients and only vitamin c, has slid in the ratings. strawbree milk, which has less or equal sugar but high calcium, vitamin, and (most importantly) protein content, has gone up.

you can download the excel calculator and see how the formula works

[Anonymous No.18372723]

>>18372662
The only reason diet coke uses aspartame is because they know it'll piss people off if they change the formula. That's why coke zero exists. Not to mention their energy drink division uses erythritol

[Anonymous No.18372730]

>>18372723
Coke Zero uses aspartame, I said so specifically in my post. Can you not read?

[Anonymous No.18372732]

>>18370419
Just looked this up and it looks like a few brands don’t deoxygenate the juice which kills the flavor. Odd that they don’t advertise that.

[Anonymous No.18372899]

>>18372730
You are correct, I'm illiterate, my bad

[Anonymous No.18372914]

>>18369650
william saurinbros... where we at

[Anonymous No.18372970]

>>18372732
Probably because we live in a time where deoxygenated sounds like poison

[Anonymous No.18373023]

>>18368987
>weiner art
do germans really?

[Anonymous No.18373530]

Australian food health board is the most shilltastic nightmare shit you can imagine
All I needed to know about it was that they literally gave goat cheese 1/5 and give milo (chocolate powder) and up&go sugar milk like 4 and 5
It's just fucking fake and if you read them in any way you're just plain retarded
Maybe it correlates sometimes (like chocolate corps that don't pay the fucking corruption money) but you can tell that shit with your fucking eyes
Nutrition facts reign supreme and all you need from those is generally grams of sugar, grams of fiber, and the micros (and the calories obviously)

[Anonymous No.18373552]

>>18373530
Plus getting a star rating is voluntary, so nobody gets them unless it makes the product look good.

[Anonymous No.18373568]

>>18368987
Some of them really don't make sense. A bag of just frozen vegetables with nothing added gets a B but bags of potato chips get an A for some reason. I think they weigh calories/weight way more than actual nutritional value but then deduct points again if there's too much sugar in it.

[Anonymous No.18373570]

If the ingredients in a package exceeds the fingers on one hand it's fucking trash.

That's MY system.

[Anonymous No.18373587]

>>18369230
Why don't they do it to the other deserts in the world?

[Anonymous No.18373589]

>>18373568
This product is a mix of three vegetables with absolutely 0 additives or seasonings and somehow only gets a B, the same grade as a bag of frozen potato wedges with truckloads of salt and sunflower seed oil. Literally makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.18373612]

>>18373023
It's what you send to art hoes instead of dick pics

[Anonymous No.18373713]

>>18373530
Nestle was using the health star rating of a tbsp of Milo when mixed with 250ml of skim milk. now they have to just list the serving of Milo and it nosedove

[Anonymous No.18373725]

>>18373530
oh and Up & Go gets 2.5 and only because of its high protein and fibre. Up & Go No Sugar gets 5

[Anonymous No.18374769]

The impression I get from this thread is that maybe health ratings are a stupid idea for trying to reduce something so complicated to a simple score

but really for most people the only thing that actually matters is calories, just put that front and center on all packaging, calories for the total pack to avoid any serving size nonsense, anybody who needs more than that can just look at the actual nutritional info

[Anonymous No.18374902]

>>18369007
People are getting so fat that they are putting artificial sweeteners in a lot of things, it’s getting harder to avoid. Some people are going to pay because of others.

[Anonymous No.18375604]

>>18374769
>the only thing that actually matters is calories, just put that front and center on all packaging
they pretty much already do that, it's the easiest thing to discern from any food packaging at least.

health ratings aren't a stupid idea at all because they provide a little extra nuance and guidance, but like with everything the retards can't make sense of it and then we have to dumß it all done even more. we have to tell people not to eat batchries ffs

[Anonymous No.18376029]

>>18368848
>Crisps healthier than cheese

You're all being lied to

[Anonymous No.18376082]

>>18368848
>literally flavored 99.9% water worse than strawberry milk
Wanna know how I know this chart was made by a boomer and/or American? They still can't get over the fact that milk is not "healthy", and might actually be among the equivalent category of junk food for beverages.
No one has delusions sugary Coke is healthy. But the meme is strong with milk.

[Anonymous No.18376116]

>>18376029
Because it’s (poorly) categorized.
Here’s an explanation:

https://youtu.be/zbpMfIVhwoU

[Anonymous No.18376147]

>>18376116
So cheeses are rated on tastiness with blander being better while crisps are rated on something else?

[Anonymous No.18376157]

>>18373589
based nettobro

[Anonymous No.18376267]

>>18369249
our natives barely give a shit about our land and are actually making tons of money and value with their tax and zoning breaks, they have already created a fuck huge mall and are making a 3000 unit tower complex in vancouver in an area where you'd never be allowed to build anything close to that dense.

[Anonymous No.18376441]

>>18376082
ffs read the thread. these items aren't compared against each other, they're compared to their own category, so there's no relevance to the star rating between a dairy drink (it's own category) and a water based drink.