Is foie gras unethical??

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Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:05:01 2022 No.18365364 [Reply] [Original]

Is foie gras unethical??

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:06:36 2022 No.18365370 Maybe. But it's delicious so who cares?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:06:53 2022 No.18365371 >>18365364 It's delicious and nutritious who the fuck cares if it's made of aborted fetuses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:10:52 2022 No.18365379 >>18365364 It’s unethical in the sense of how the birds are treated and that added torture adds to the quality but if we’re going to label it as unethical we may as well label most every mass produced meat production everywhere

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:11:22 2022 No.18365380

>>18365364
Is killing another life form for your own benefit unethical? Well, who determines ethics in the first place? It's all arbitrary so who cares. We eat to survive, who cares if what we eat was force fed a bit. Wild animals don't care how much their prey suffers

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:14:15 2022 No.18365391 >>18365364 yeah, obviously dumbass

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:30:21 2022 No.18365430 >>18365364 Never had it although I like veal and I live in an area that raises them and see the small cages. they are raised in, doesn't bother me the meat is so good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:31:33 2022 No.18365438 >>18365391 Obviously, according to whom?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:38:18 2022 No.18365456 >>18365364 honestly, yes it is, but as long as I can buy it I will eat it

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:41:54 2022 No.18365475 if humans are to eat animals, they should at least be given some humanane treatment. foie gras is rather cruel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:42:43 2022 No.18365476 >>18365364 i think i saw something once talking about how simple this thing was and how birds fill there stomach naturally before migration or something

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:42:56 2022 No.18365477 >>18365438 Captain Obvious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:46:44 2022 No.18365493 The way they jam that tube down the bird's throat and pump its stomach full of slop gets me hard. I want to do that a bourgeois French woman with my cock.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 16:55:35 2022 No.18365718 >>18365364 >is killing another living thing unethical?? no shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 16:58:28 2022 No.18365729 >>18365718 Time to give all those mosquitos you murdered a proper burial nazi.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 17:03:44 2022 No.18365744
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>>18365364
>foie gras
The only thing unethical right now to me is why I'm not using my Gardetto's rye crips to tear your ears off fry them up then add them to the batch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 17:15:12 2022 No.18365776 Yes but it doesnt matter

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 17:18:48 2022 No.18365782 >>18365364 unethical is word that poor people like to use a lot, so fuck them

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 18:08:18 2022 No.18365943 >>18365364 I'm getting sick and tired of this kind of threads, and people does even respond, like op knows how to open a thread about ethic and they suppose he don't know shit and they feel the FUCKING COMPULSION OF TELL THEIR USELESS OPINIONS

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 18:24:19 2022 No.18366016 >>18365364 >foie gras only if you're force feeding the bird. Over feeding is fine probably. Just don't torture the thing and kill it painlessly and its probably fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 18:38:07 2022 No.18366066 If the chickens didn't like it they would throw the food back up

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 18:40:08 2022 No.18366071 >>18365364 Depends on your ethics but also fuck birds.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 18:51:20 2022 No.18366114

>>18365364
No
>The way the animals spend the first couple months of their life is no question: The few foie gras farms in this country (three, at the time of this writing, I believe) raise animals that have more space, more comfort, more care, and can engage in more natural behavior than practically any commercially-raised animal on a large-scale poultry, pork, egg, or dairy farm, and are on par with the small-scale farms so championed by humane activists.
>Ducks and other fish-eating aquatic birds have extremely tough and stretchy esophogi that are designed for swallowing whole wriggling, spine-covered, live fish. They do it naturally and it causes no discomfort. A thin plastic tube does not either.
>Ducks breathe through their tongues, not their noses or throats. A duck can hold a solid object in its throat indefinitely and still breathe completely comfortable and normally.
>Ducks have large crops—pouches of tissue at the base of their throats that hold swallowed food. The amount of food force-fed to a duck during gavage fills up approximately 10% of a crop's total volume.
>Ducks naturally store excess fat in their skin and livers in anticipation of long fasts during long migrations.
https://www.seriouseats.com/foie-gras-new-fire-for-an-old-debate

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 19:32:13 2022 No.18366237 >>18365364 No, it's delicious and geese are stupid

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 21:31:54 2022 No.18366708 >>18365379 Eating any meat outside of a survival situation is unnecessary, which by definition makes it unethical. People get really mad about this, but they can't have it both ways.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 22:27:40 2022 No.18366891 >>18366708 Look at your teeth moron.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 22:32:41 2022 No.18366907

>>18365364
Eating it could never be unethical because that's not how ethics work
It could be immoral and it could be unethical to make it but who the fuck cares what society decides is ok or not and you are not responsible for how the manufacturer chooses to treat the animals

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 22:35:23 2022 No.18366920 >>18365364 Animals can't feel pain.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 22:41:01 2022 No.18366941

>>18366891
Right on cue. There's always someone mad about this, even to the point of making a nonsensical argument like this one. This anon is suggesting that because we evolved to be able to eat meat, that therefore it is ethical - a complete non-sequitur. What he fails to grasp is that we, unlike felines, are not obligate carnivores, and that we also have the capability to reason and to make choices. You can continue eating meat, and I eat it sometimes too, but the point here is that you cannot escape the fact that it is unethical. You should accept responsibility for the lives you take, and not try to run from the truth of the world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 22:48:00 2022 No.18366957 >>18365364 reddit hates it so i love it

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 22:49:56 2022 No.18366961 >>18366957 Since when do they hate it?

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 22:50:33 2022 No.18366963

>>18366941
The nature and thousands year of evolution deemed you omnivore based on teeth. One of the main reasons himan brain advanced was cooking and especially cooking of meat and proteins.
You are apex predator on the planet deemed to eat everything that doesnt poison you.
Everything else are your feelings. Just like I dont allow fag to feel me up, I wont allow vegetards to spout bullshit in my face.
Nobody is interested, go vape.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 22:56:07 2022 No.18366977

>>18366941
>blah blah blah philosophy logic games blah blah moralfagging blah fucking blah
Christ I fucking hate you people. I think that you dying would be ethical, so how about you quit making the unethical choice to continue living and blow your head off?
>derp derp nooo only i get to decide what is heckin ethical
Fuck yoy

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 22:58:23 2022 No.18366982 >>18366963 For thousands of years people would eat anything just to survive. They didn't become omnivore because they wanted, they had no other choice if they wanted to survive. Now you have a choice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:02:17 2022 No.18366990 >>18366982 >Now you have a choice. Yeah, and I choose to eat meat. Thanks anyways though, bye.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:04:13 2022 No.18366997 Galvaging is banned here so we inject hormones so it intentionally consumes 3x its normal diet which personally i think is worse than galvaging but foie is delicious so i dont care

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:05:40 2022 No.18367003 >>18366990 And that's fine, I do too. I just don't think the argument "people have eaten meat for thousands of years" is a valid one. It for sure is a very shallow one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:05:43 2022 No.18367004 I just saw a video where asians stuff a live squid in hot sauce to make it choke and die on it so when they cook it it has hot sauce already in it

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:07:03 2022 No.18367008 >>18367004 wtf post it now

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:32:24 2022 No.18367064 >>18367004 The French do that with birds and wine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:33:18 2022 No.18367070 >>18366114 some poor anon not really wrote that but greentexed it like a fucking spastic weirdo and it's not even halloween, the idiots are...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:34:19 2022 No.18367073 >>18366891 >>18366941 Perhaps you people should consider werewolves

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:44:41 2022 No.18367098 >>18366977 I never said anything about the ethical choice being the RIGHT choice. Read again carefully. My entire point is that we are all unethical, and that's a fact. Don't be so butthurt about it :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:45:41 2022 No.18367100 >>18367073 I hadn't considered werewolves. Thank you, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:47:30 2022 No.18367110 >>18367008 I didn't save it It was on here though a thread about ethically killing lobster

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:49:53 2022 No.18367114

>>18366963
Your reading comprehension must be very low. My entire point is not that we cannot eat meat, or that we did not evolve to do so, or even that we should not do so, but that it must be accepted that doing so is simply unethical. I eat meat, even though I know it is unethical to do so. It is the child's position to invent justifications for his own behavior. It is the adult's position to take responsibility.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:52:31 2022 No.18367117 >>18366114 Based and fact pilled

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:52:32 2022 No.18367118

>>18366963
So, to bring the point around to the subject of this thread: foie gras is unethical, yes.

Does that mean you cannot eat it? No.

It means that you must do so with full knowledge of the creature's suffering, and without having to invent childish stories about how it's really ok and the goose likes it, or the goose isn't very conscious and cannot suffer very much, etc. etc.

Just accept responsibility that your happiness depends on another creature's suffering, and live with it. Live with the knowledge.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:55:11 2022 No.18367123

>>18367118
It's sort of like the Ortolans that were discussed here a while back. Everyone who partakes in eating that dish knows full well how unethical it is, to the point of performing a silly little ritual and covering their heads with a napkin while they eat it. The people who do that can admit to themselves that what they are doing is essentially evil, and they can still delight in doing so. Anyone who takes issue with this is ultimately experiencing cognitive dissonance, because they want to eat meat obtained from the suffering of creatures, while still thinking of themselves as a good and decent person. They want to have their cake and eat it. My advice is: grow up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:57:20 2022 No.18367128 >>18366961 always i guess? they just spew word diarrhea about animal cruelty when it comes to it

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:58:40 2022 No.18367132 Is this some kinda douche spam?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 00:04:55 2022 No.18367145 File: 301 KB, 1300x956, stay put.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18365430 Veal is very good

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 00:13:07 2022 No.18367163
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>>18365364
>While foie gras was used s a food since ancient Egypt, it experienced a resurgence in popularity during the late middle ages due to Jewish communities living in Central Europe requiring a source of cooking fat as neither lard nor butter could be used under kosher food laws and olive oil being too expensive for impoverished Jews to import from Southern Europe.
Yes it is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 00:15:28 2022 No.18367169 >>18365430 I used to eat a ton of veal back in the day but I feel a tad guilty when I eat it now. I have no qualms about eating grown cows or chickens or pigs though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 00:16:55 2022 No.18367172 >>18367073 Werewolves are based

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 00:18:25 2022 No.18367174 >>18367064 I always suspected a jew/French connection

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 00:27:53 2022 No.18367204 File: 1.19 MB, 3865x2174, suckling pig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18367169 What about baby pig bbq?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 00:41:27 2022 No.18367246 >>18367204 How about that Chinese dog-meat festival?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 00:47:29 2022 No.18367261 >>18365364 Chicago deep dish pizza is unethical, foie gras is delicious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 00:48:32 2022 No.18367269 >>18367098 >My entire point is that we are all unethical, and that's a fact. No it isn't faggot unless you're some christard spewing some original sin nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 00:57:12 2022 No.18367304 >>18367269 Are... you implying I don't know the point I'm making? lol lmao even

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 01:46:35 2022 No.18367455 >>18365364 Yes, but I don't care.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 01:52:55 2022 No.18367474 >>18367246 never heard of it

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 01:58:23 2022 No.18367496 >>18367474 Now you have!

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 02:26:42 2022 No.18367604

>>18365364
How much does a goose actually experience? Is there any reason to believe they are capable of having the qualia of distress like say a dolphin or mammal does? Do they find the process of gavage unpleasant? On a scale of 1-10 how unpleasant do they find it, if at all? If producing a portion of foie gras produces a known amount of suffering for a goose, does it produce more pleasure for the human than that? How about if it produces 10 times the suffering for the goose as it does pleasure for the human? Is that still a morally good trade because human pleasure is more than 10 times as important?

You see how complicated this is? The answer is fuck birds, eat them and force feed them if it makes them any tastier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 02:33:36 2022 No.18367622 >>18365364 No. The ducks love it. Also who cares. Most birds are retarded and don't understand what's going on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 02:35:56 2022 No.18367628 >>18367114 sacrificing human health for lesser creatures is the real unethical position

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 02:45:06 2022 No.18367646 The food itself no, the method in which it's created yes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 02:49:00 2022 No.18367654 >>18367628 The suffering of lesser creatures is not essential for human health.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 02:51:15 2022 No.18367660 >>18367654 No but it is delicious and if you don't eat meat you become a weak pathetic husk of a man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 02:51:52 2022 No.18367661 >>18367660 The former is true, but the latter is not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 02:53:58 2022 No.18367673 >>18367661 It is. There are loads of videos on youtube from ex-vegans who were extremely against eating any animal products. They had to start eating eggs or fish because their health was so bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 03:03:33 2022 No.18367701 >>18367654 some meat or animal foods are essential for human health

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 03:04:34 2022 No.18367703 >>18367673 Youtube testimonials aren't very convincing, and eggs do not require the suffering of the animal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 03:05:12 2022 No.18367706 >>18367703 no meat requires suffering of animals its just the unfortunate reality

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 03:06:27 2022 No.18367710 >>18367703 90% or more are ex vegans. its not sustainable

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 03:06:34 2022 No.18367711 >>18367706 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 03:09:39 2022 No.18367718 >>18367710 >>18367701 It's possible, but difficult, and beyond the abilities of the hippie-wannabe midwits who attempt it as a form of social signalling.

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 03:11:55 2022 No.18367725

>>18367703
Sure a youtube testimonial is never convincing. When there are so many of them from people who have been almost militant vegans for years and have posted nothing but vegan videos and then they start eating animal products surely there is truth to it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 03:14:17 2022 No.18367735 >>18367725 See >>18367718

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 03:20:26 2022 No.18367750 >>18366957 Way to think for yourself :)

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 03:22:50 2022 No.18367755 File: 155 KB, 1128x1128, Veal-Roast.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All this jib jab is making me hungry

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 06:29:05 2022 No.18368132 Yes, it's unethical. And since humans are not half brain beast, we can stop eating it right away. >>18365380 Wild animal paws wrote this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 06:49:52 2022 No.18368175 >>18365943 prob need to renew that ESL class

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 06:55:39 2022 No.18368189 >>18367145 if you eat cheese, you support the veal industry; cows have to get pregnant to make milk; what does the dairy farm do with male calves that can’t produce milk?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 06:58:13 2022 No.18368192 >>18368189 remove males from the genetic strain then just clone the milk producing females

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 08:23:13 2022 No.18368377 >>18368189 Damn right I support the veal industry, shit is good, you must have misjudged my file name

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 08:29:33 2022 No.18368388 >>18365364 Yes. But I don't care. I'd eat Foie gras from any animal so long as it tasted good.

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 09:17:11 2022 No.18368487

>>18365364
Animals don’t have thoughts, and any rudimentary “emotions” they may display are projections of our own onto them. If a dog whines next to its food dish with those characteristic manipulative eyes, it’s not upset that it’s not being fed; it’s exhibiting an evolutionary adaptation to extort humans for food. There is no higher functioning involved. Therefore, no, fattening a duck via force-feeding to the point that its liver becomes a delicacy is not inhumane.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 16:11:29 2022 No.18369409 >>18367304 Ethics are fake. Might makes right. Suck my dick you dumb faggot.

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 16:34:17 2022 No.18369484

>>18365364
Yes and anyone with an IQ above 110 who has empathy knows this. I'll still eat it, but that's because I'm too lazy to live a moral life. Also too lazy to build elaborate justifications to lie to myself.

I hope the AI apocalypse is real and AI truly builds Eden as even ancient man knew it should exist. Without death, for all creatures. Humanity and nature in general are too fucked to deserve to exist as they are. Veganism is just a stop gap.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 16:34:30 2022 No.18369485 >>18367604 Bike cuck mentality.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 16:35:30 2022 No.18369488 >>18368487 > t. Descartes as he nails a cat's feet to the table

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 16:36:31 2022 No.18369493 >>18369409 Make me. Oh, you can't? Guess I'm right then, heh.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 16:56:20 2022 No.18369558 >>18369488 Well, he didnt have firecrackers, so nail was it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 17:00:54 2022 No.18369569 >>18365364 not my problem

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 17:40:09 2022 No.18369664 >>18369569 >Sticks tube up your throat >Shoves corn In your stupid face who's problem is it now, pal?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 17:44:46 2022 No.18369676 >>18366891 How am I supposed to look at my own teeth when they're inside my head you fucking retarded chimp?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 17:44:51 2022 No.18369677 >>18369664 I hate the antiChrist!

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 17:47:26 2022 No.18369686 Yes and it's totally unnecessary. There's plenty of delicious things to eat that don't require torturing animals, we can do without foie gras.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 18:00:19 2022 No.18369726 >>18365364 yeah

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 18:47:11 2022 No.18369858 >>18369493 I can. I'm coming to your house. Expect me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 19:40:54 2022 No.18370018 >>18369686 the whole process with the tube and the corn only takes a couple seconds and isn't painful for them, and they don't use that much corn at once

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 19:42:59 2022 No.18370022 >>18366708 Not eating meat is a survival situation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 19:43:59 2022 No.18370029 >>18366907 >you are not responsible for how the manufacturer chooses to treat the animals >literally creating demand That's not how ethics work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 19:55:27 2022 No.18370071 >>18365380 >Wild animals don't care how much their prey suffers Love how the justification is literally always, "I'm just an animal".

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 19:57:41 2022 No.18370082

>>18366114
>a pussy is designed to take a dick, so is it really rape if I take a homeless woman of the street, force her to live in my luxurious basement, and force her to take my 3 inch dick when her pussy is designed to accommodate a literal child during birth? of course it isn't, grow up
You people are fucking weirdos and unironically make me agree with vegans more and more every day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 19:58:45 2022 No.18370087 >>18367163 Sounds like bs since beef tallow was around back then

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 20:01:39 2022 No.18370099

>>18367604
You're in the same boat as this guy >>18365380. Both of you fail to understand that when we say "ethically inhumane", the "inhumane" part isn't about imparting humanity to animals. It's called inhumane because it's humans acting like animals, without principles and completely controlled by carnal desires, justifying their actions with the literal argument, "I'm just an animal, you can't expect more from me."

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 20:02:57 2022 No.18370108 >>18370082 what a strange straw man

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 20:05:04 2022 No.18370122

Yeah but so is most meat eating.
Did you know farm raised salmon are fed corn? salmon are carnivores naturally, and we're feeding them corn and soy... I would say force feeding them because its their only food source but I guess without the tubes its all gravy. to me it seems just as egregious

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 20:38:50 2022 No.18370232 >>18370087 Most beef tallow is considered chelev, and is not kosher.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 20:42:18 2022 No.18370245 >>18370122 I wonder if they would taste better if they ate ze bugs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 20:43:17 2022 No.18370252 >>18370122 >salmon are carnivores naturally, and we're feeding them corn and soy... I would say force feeding them because its their only food source Funny how vegans want to inflict this on humans

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 21:26:49 2022 No.18370420

>>18365364
Nothing inherently wrong with foie grass.
>verification not required

>>18365379
>added torture adds to the quality
It doesn't, quite the opposite actually. The gentler and better the goose is treated the better the product turns out, mistreatment leads to bruising and damaging.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 21:30:33 2022 No.18370432 >>18365477 Reddit moment.

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 21:35:51 2022 No.18370453
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>>18367114
>My entire point is not that we cannot eat meat, or that we did not evolve to do so, or even that we should not do so, but that it must be accepted that doing so is simply unethical
Are you brain damaged?
The fact that you yourself agree to the necessity of eating meat for survival, to exist, makes it impossible for it to be unethical.
If the act to survive would be unethical your very existence would be an unethical one at it's core. In turn the only ethical act would be immediate suicide.

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 22:52:10 2022 No.18370699

>>18370453
Not him, but our evolution is entirely irrelevant to what we need for survival. Science trumps nature.

Humanity can grow human infants on whatever protein slop they want because the problem was approached scientifically, ie. experimentally. If anyone cared enough to find out why vegans become skelly, they could come up with vegan diets to avoid it ... but no one really cares enough.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 22:53:49 2022 No.18370700 It's as delicious as it is unethical, and it's fucking delicious.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 02:10:50 2022 No.18371265
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>>18366941
But seriously, I agree with this.
We need to be keenly aware of what we're doing and take responsibility for it. I won't stop eating meat, but I damn well respect the food I'm eating.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 02:12:31 2022 No.18371270

>>18365364
I tried it once, my dad bought some from the market. We sliced it about as thick as in that picture and fried it in a little butter and its own fat.
I was surprised by how light and airy the texture was. I liked it but I wouldn't pay for it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 02:17:04 2022 No.18371284

>>18366941
Humans are specialized as omnivores, Even herbivores don't turn down mammalian meat just like carnivores don't turn vegetable matter.
All your blathering though only has one conclusion. Elimination of yourself is the best thing for the environment on a local and global scale.
>Do it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 02:32:03 2022 No.18371320 >>18367145 cute dog

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 03:34:26 2022 No.18371482 >>18365364 Has the foie gras itself offended some law of ethics? No, it's simply an object, it has no autonomy and therefore cannot be judged guilty of any ethical lapse or gaffe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 03:41:27 2022 No.18371496 >>18370699 >Science trumps nature. This has to be bait.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 04:02:13 2022 No.18371543 >>18370108 not really. using the physical limits of a ducks body really seems like a strange way of saying that hooking a duck up to a tube and pumping it full of food to make it extra fat isnt weird as fuck tho

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 06:24:04 2022 No.18371852

same motherfuckers crying about how animal abuse is heckin based in big ol' tears when their entire country is stolen from them (because chuds have zero sympathy for anything that isn't themselves due to low IQ animal brain ironically. maybe chud foie gras would be superior but society is too afraid to find out)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:47:33 2022 No.18372935 >>18366997 I never heard of that, does it work?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:49:44 2022 No.18372944 File: 186 KB, 500x375, foie gras pizza.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:59:08 2022 No.18372974 File: 19 KB, 448x299, veal4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18365364 Why wouldn't it be?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 17:51:34 2022 No.18373080 >>18370082 Why are you talking about rape bro?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 19:27:56 2022 No.18373369 >>18371543 except they do the same in the wild

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 19:28:58 2022 No.18373370 >>18373080 deranged vegans always have to make an extreme straw man

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:48:00 2022 No.18374019
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>>18365380
>Za whaito piggu kills cows with a pneumatic rod, therefore I should be allowed to torch, boil, vivisect, and serve any animal while it's still alive
>t. chang

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:41:00 2022 No.18374548 Everything humans do causes suffering What little suffering extra is worth it for what extra new sensation is attained

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:47:38 2022 No.18374564 >>18374548 t. Emperors Children

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:47:46 2022 No.18374565 >>18370082 >yeah, so like women are ducks right and their pussies are like ducks throats and ducks definitely have consent, so like dude, I get why you’d wanna eat a duck or a pussy but why’re you so mean to women?

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:51:35 2022 No.18374577

>>18371543
The question isnt ‘is this an odd thing to do’ its about ethics. Is it ethical to allow humans to gorge themselves to 600# and force the rest of us to pay for their medical care as a morbidly obese person? See, this is what your false equivalency feels like, you schmuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:58:13 2022 No.18374590 File: 170 KB, 1046x850, Veal farm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18374548 I don't know what he said but give me some meat!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 02:01:49 2022 No.18374605 >>18374590 Kino. And delicious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 02:02:32 2022 No.18374610 >>18370071 You are nothing but an animal, no matter how you twist things.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 02:09:19 2022 No.18374631
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>>18370699
>science trumps nature
You are a dunce of the worst order. You degrade the scientific method with your arrogance and pollute the realm of science with your retardation. Science is merely the act of prediction and consequent evidence to either prove or disprove a theory. Nature is extant without observation. You think, in your arrogance, that you can do better than millions of years of trial and error on the cellular level and you are beyond foolish for even entertaining the thought that a few observations suggest otherwise. You are an ungrateful cur for the long line of scientists that allow you to breath clean air or shit a clean shit. Leave and don’t return until you’ve thought long and hard about your shortcomings.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 02:14:20 2022 No.18374646 File: 201 KB, 1192x1280, I'm not a furry but.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>18367073 considering.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 04:53:53 2022 No.18375100 >>18367123 >thinks people are literally evil for eating ortolan >tells anybody but himself to grow up Shigg Also they cover their face because it can be fucking messy biting into them, not because the are partaking in some satanic ritual lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 05:23:29 2022 No.18375173 >>18365364 There's no objective ethics. All ethical reasoning is based on a foundation of a certain number of initial axioms, which are taken for granted. One such axiom in my personal system of ethics is that eating foie gras is good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 05:24:00 2022 No.18375175 >>18365379 >we may as well label most every mass produced meat production everywhere yeah actually, since it is and I'm not even vegan

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 05:25:17 2022 No.18375179

>>18366114
>>The way the animals spend the first couple months of their life is no question: The few foie gras farms in this country (three, at the time of this writing, I believe) raise animals that have more space, more comfort, more care, and can engage in more natural behavior than practically any commercially-raised animal on a large-scale poultry, pork, egg, or dairy farm, and are on par with the small-scale farms so championed by humane activists.
why should I believe this

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 05:26:22 2022 No.18375183 >>18366891 appeal to nature maybe also is-ought

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 05:33:06 2022 No.18375202 id eating animals is bad then what about carnivorous plants

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 05:47:12 2022 No.18375224 >>18374590 >Australia, 2020

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 13:43:27 2022 No.18376059

>>18374610
Low IQ take. You had not one notable thought in your entire life. Look:

Humans invented the term and concept "animal" to separate themselves from animals, because it's a pragmatically useful token/concept (normative concepts don't even enter the picture). How does this mesh with your interpretation?

I am a human. I can decide how I regard myself. For example, I might agree I am an animal in topics where this is relevant, like evolutionary biology.
But in this instance -- i.e. ethics -- I decide to regard myself as separate from animals. The same applies when it comes to topics like culture or any involving language: I separate myself from the animal kingdom. (Needless to say, humans regard themselves as separate in almost all possible fields)

I am a human and I consider ethics to be a vital goal to determine how I live my life, and to a lesser extend, how the shape and state of the wider world agrees to the standards set by my personal ideas.

Ergo, what you said is completely empty, vacuous and non-sequitur. Non-human animals and their conduct don't impact how I, a human, conducts himself -- it's a category error. It's like asking tomatos to be good vehicles. And this is the case in particular with moral considerations.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 14:37:26 2022 No.18376148

>>18365364
Yes, in addition to the other ghastly and macabre culinary horrors which could only be dreamed up by the Fr*nch, such as boiling an animal fetus in its mothers milk, stuffing an animal in another animal and roasting it, or drowning a bird in alcohol then swallowing it whole like some kind of demonic serpent

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 14:38:28 2022 No.18376151 >>18365438 Absolutely Talmudic

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 14:49:33 2022 No.18376172

>>18370453
> The fact that you yourself agree to the necessity of eating meat for survival, to exist, makes it impossible for it to be unethical.
The same logic can therefore be applied to any action which increases your chance of “survival”. Cold? Kill that man next to you and wear his skin as a coat. Short on money? Beat up that old woman and take her cash. A little hungry? There’s a perfectly good toddler playing unattended in the front yard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 14:56:19 2022 No.18376182 >>18366066 >chickens

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 17:00:27 2022 No.18376542 >>18365364 Doesn't torture the bird enough, very unethical. In America, at least. I trust the gypsies and the frogs to do it right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 18:24:24 2022 No.18376743 >>18375179 Because he visited the only foie gras farms in my country. Have you ever been to a fpie gras farm?

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