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Is a nations food culture directly linked to how healthy the average person is from these countries or is that a myth pushed by Big Vegan Jamie Oliver?

>> No.18166236 [DELETED] 

>>18166230
I thinknit has to do with race. Most whites are reasonable weight in the US. Every Mexican or jogger is fat.
Also where is Mexico and UK on that infobrap

>> No.18166241

Americans are kind of special in the regard that they are simply too stupid to know what real food is. They aren't simply overeating, they just don't know

>> No.18166247

>>18166230
hrm, no England on this list? I don't think so. They're like 60%

>> No.18166265 [DELETED] 

Not sure how far you read into it, no interesting reason to isolate those countries in particular. countries in particular.

More generally, if the food culture is based upon less caloric intake relative to break-even caloric stability per the average person in that country, they should retain less calories and find it more difficult to accumulate excess fat. This both depends on the diet and how many calories are burnt over time by the average person, calories in calories out and all.

The above take doesn't change if the diet is vegan or not, so if Jamie Oliver is going beyond that you'd have to elaborate. Never heard of him before now.

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>>18166236
>>18166230
lol yeah me too I found it weird that Mexico and UK weren't on the list.
But apparently, just by "obese" standards, they're low on the list. I guess Mexi-lards and UK-fats are just fat and not obese.
Also congrats Oceania for being the most obese folks in the world.

>> No.18166271

>>18166230
>America is #1 as always
>hungary is hungry

>> No.18166272

Not sure how far you read into it, no interesting reason to isolate those countries in particular.

More generally, if the food culture is based upon less caloric intake relative to break-even caloric stability per the average person in that country, they should retain less calories and find it more difficult to accumulate excess fat. This both depends on the diet and how many calories are burnt over time by the average person, calories in calories out and all.

The above take doesn't change if the diet is vegan or not, so if Jamie Oliver is going beyond that you'd have to elaborate. Never heard of him before now.

>> No.18166275

>>18166265
>never heard of Jamie Oliver
Are you 12?

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>>18166247
i think whoever made OP's image decided that pacific islanders don't count as obese because they're "big boned"

>> No.18166296

>>18166286
I guess they are never listed, because nobody cares for Oceania and its 1000 citizens.

>> No.18166304

>>18166275
28
If he's mostly known from TV then that's probably it, since I didn't grow up with it. I don't really know any TV chefs beyond Gordon Ramsay and Alton Brown (forgot his name just now).

>> No.18166309

>>18166304
don't mind him, Jamie Oliver is irrelevant, just a brit celebrity. watched a couple of his YT vids. 100% brit-shit.

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>>18166236
>Most whites are reasonable weight in the US

>> No.18166331

>>18166286
>they also only listed one arab country instead of all ten of them
bullshit anti-white graph

>> No.18166340

>>18166230
There's a shit ton of factors when you're looking at things on a national scale, but yes food culture is going to play a role because the two major things that affect a person's weight are what they eat and how active they are. In the US another major factor besides eating trends is the fact that infrastructure is overwhelmingly car-centric as a result of so much of the country being developed during the rise of affordable automobiles when nobody knew what a bad fucking idea building that way was. When it's impossible to go anywhere without getting in a car in most of the country, people tend to lead more sedentary lifestyles as a result compared to areas where it's normal to walk/bike pretty much everywhere you need to go. What a fucking retarded question.

>> No.18166346

>>18166286
I used to work woth quite a few samoans and NZers. Theyre either Musclehead or Fatheads. No inbetween

>> No.18166352

>>18166331
>>>18166286
>>they also only listed one arab country instead of all ten of them
>bullshit anti-white graph
and really, everyone is supposed to know that the WHO only gets stats from countries that actually track and provide them. Most don't provide shit to them. Figures like infant mortality are the least tracked of all.
Who is providing weight figures in the US? Medicare and Kaiser.

>> No.18166354

>>18166340
You can be completely sedentary and not overweight. Obviously physical activity is good for your health but the main problem in the US is just the huge amount of calories coming from highly processed foods. It's been shown that simply eliminating highly processed food from your diet naturally results in consuming hundreds of calories less per day without having to plan or measure intake. People on any kind of diet started gaining more weight once processed food was added in.

>> No.18166355

>>18166236
Maybe if you live in a middleclass blue area like seattle or LA. But everywhere else, whites are nearly as fat as hispanics. I travelled around tge mid west with my gf a few years ago and I couldnt believe the white hambeasts I saw strolling down the costco isle.

>> No.18166359

>>18166330
62% is a majority.

>> No.18166365

>>18166359
That's just for obesity. If you include overweight but not yet obese it goes above 50%.

>> No.18166392

>>18166365
But that's just your mom tipping the scale.

>> No.18166393

>>18166354
Nigger did you miss the entire first part of the post where I said there's a lot of factors and eating habits is definitely a huge one?

>> No.18166412

>>18166354
>DOES PEOPLE IS OBESE BECAUSE THEY DON'T EAT GOOD?
>yes retard, also not exercising doesn't help matters
>UH ACKSHUALLY EATING BAD IS BAD

Jesus fucking Christ learn to read you schizoid dipshit

>> No.18166441

>>18166412
He's right, though. And the other guy is wrong. People are obese because they don't eat properly, not because they don't exercise. The other guy emphasized exercise. Therefore the guy you responded to was correct.

>> No.18166442

>>18166355
I bet you were turned on.

>> No.18166450

>>18166441
You're an illiterate samefag arguing with nobody about a thing nobody said.

>> No.18166462

>>18166441
>The guy who said bad eating habits make you fat is right
>The guy who said bad eating habits make you fat and also not exercising in addition to bad eating habits also makes you fat is wrong

You are quite possibly the dumbest retard in the history of retarded faggots

>> No.18166469

>>18166393
>>18166412
I'm just saying exercise is almost not even a factor. Obesity can be completely controlled through diet, but nobody will exercise enough to make up for consuming enough calories in make them weigh 600 pounds. Telling people exercise is important for weight loss might just end up discouraging people too because it's much easier to simply not consume those calories compared to burning them off later. Exercise is important for overall health but weight problems are pretty much entirely due to diet.

>> No.18166483

>>18166469
Unhealthy eating habits + sedentary lifestyle + ((genetics)) + fat acceptance movements + your mother are all major contributing factors to obesity rates. No amount of backpedaling is going to change the fact that your illiterate ass misread a post and started an argument about literally nothing then doubled down when it was pointed out that you're retarded.

>> No.18166490

>>18166236
I live in an NJ suburb where almost everyone is white and there are so many fat fucks here. I think it's social class. People close to the bottom seem to be more likely to be fat

>> No.18166506

>>18166340
>There's a shit ton of factors when you're looking at things on a national scale, but yes food culture is going to play a role because the two major things that affect a person's weight are what they eat and how active they are. In the US another major factor besides eating trends is the fact that infrastructure is overwhelmingly car-centric as a result of so much of the country being developed during the rise of affordable automobiles when nobody knew what a bad fucking idea building that way was. When it's impossible to go anywhere without getting in a car in most of the country, people tend to lead more sedentary lifestyles as a result compared to areas where it's normal to walk/bike pretty much everywhere you need to go.
Can you and the 100 other anons spamming this shit just fuck off? Fuck off the website, let alone the board, back to your shitty discord server or leddit. I swear to god I've never seen so many posts and threads whining about lack of "muh walkable cities!" in the years I've spent here until the past 3 or 4 months. It's fucking obvious it's a coordinated astroturfing campaign, especially since the pieces of shit at the WEF were recently complaining about the same thing. You and all your limp-wristed urban planning faggot friends need to fuck off back to where you came from and take your shitty youtube politics with you. You've already shat up /n/ and you spill over to other boards bringing this up in threads irrelevant to the topic. You're worse than the magatards at this point.

>> No.18166515

>>18166506
Take your meds faggot

>> No.18166525

>>18166236
Ultimate copium

>> No.18166534

>>18166506
>People are talking about a thing that's a matter of historical and actual fact that can be empirically observed in threads dedicated to subjects where it is relevant to the discussion at hand, it must logically be some kind of coordinated effort by lizard people as there is no other possible explanation. I will become irrationally angry and bitch about it because I am redpilled and intelligent.
Fuck off retard

>> No.18166539

>>18166483
I didn't misread anything, I just disagreed about physical activity being a major factor in obesity. I wasn't getting upset and arguing about it, so I'm not sure why you're acting this way over a calm disagreement. It's not a personal attack.

>> No.18166549

>>18166236
here in spain is rare to spot a single gypsy or south american girl who isnt chubby

>> No.18166551

>>18166450
>>18166462
You're both wrong. He is right. Exercising isn't that important and like he said, diet is what really matters. The other guy was wrong.

>> No.18166560

>>18166539
>>18166551
You are retarded and most likely autistic, definitely a fatass

>> No.18166570

>>18166560
Having a meltdown when someone disagrees with you is a symptom of autism.

>> No.18166575

>>18166236
>most ameriwhites are reasonable weight gaiz!!
lolno
West Virginia is a vastly white majority state, number 3 in the country for whiteness, at 94%. It's also number 2 in the country for morbidly obese fatfuckedness, at 39.5%.
Short of Colorado and Hawaii, wherever you go in the US, you will find a huge portion of huge proportioned white people. Considering that blacks, 'spanics and mixed-race people make up a mere 20% of the US population (and whites 60% of it) it is impossible that they contribute significantly to your obesity rates QED
Facts are facts and y'all are fat.

>> No.18166577

>>18166575
>y'all

>> No.18166578

>>18166570
Being an autistic retard who can't read is a symptom of parents who didn't love you

>> No.18166588

>>18166575
I'm in New England and rarely ever see obese people

>> No.18166601

>>18166236
>race
Not race, CULTURE.

>> No.18166606

>>18166230
It doesn't matter what you eat or what your race or sex or genetics are, it's just a matter of how much you eat.

>> No.18166608

>>18166578
>diet and exercise are major factors in obesity
>i disagree about exercise being a major factor as obesity can be entirely controlled through diet
>wow you autistic illiterate fatass retard your parents don't love you
okay man have fun

>> No.18166610

>>18166588
Look in a mirror recently tons o' fun

>> No.18166616

>>18166588
56% of New Englanders from any state are overweight. 30% of New Englanders from any state are obese. Rhode Island, surprisingly, has the lowest rates of either, but fatties are still a very noticeable part of the population.

>> No.18166621

>>18166616
the OP was a national average, not by state. liberal states typically have less overweight people

>> No.18166630

>>18166621
That's nice, dear.

>> No.18166644

>>18166608
>Does food culture explain obesity discrepancies of different countries?
>To an extent yes, but with such huge sample sizes there are other factors that also contribute, among them exercise
>Actually I disagree about exercise having any effect on obesity numbers because I am retarded, here is a wall of text about how eating habits are the most important thing, a fact that is not contrary to the post I am replying to at all
>Fuck off retard, I literally just said yes it does and OP is fucking stupid for even asking
>I will now repeat my position for several replies

Yes you're disagreeing that exercise habits have anything to do with obesity numbers, but that's retarded and so are you. Nobody is disputing that eating habits are the single most important factor that affect an individual's weight but when you are looking at trends for an entire country, especially one as big as America, there are always going to be multiple contributing factors because the variance in lifestyles of the sample is going to be huge. You're as retarded as the sneed oil goyslop spammers who obsessed over one thing and go apeshit when people tell them they're being fucking stupid and need to take their meds.

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>>18166630
>getting triggered by facts
oof not a good look, anon.

>> No.18166658

>>18166268
Holy hell canada is so fat

>> No.18166664

>>18166651
>Lowest obesity rates correlate to states that have the largest population of homeless and starving unemployed zoomers who move there for dudeweed

lmao

>> No.18166675

>>18166651
I'm sorry. How did you jump to the conclusion that >>18166630 is at all triggered? Seems to me like >>18166621 commented with something unrelated to the post she replied to and >>18166630 simply dismissed it for being irrelevant.

>> No.18166677

>>18166664
Face it. He blew you the fuck out.

>> No.18166688

>>18166575
>y'all
lol
post physique btw

>> No.18166693

>>18166677
Face it. You blow dudes.

>> No.18166700

>>18166677
Not him, neutral party. He actually blew the other guy the fuck out.

>> No.18166701

>>18166677
I'm not whatever anon you're dick measuring with, I just thought that was funny

>> No.18166723

>>18166675
I'm sorry, but did the I already lose? Oh, that's right. The argument isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only getting started. Does not winning the argument at the start count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this claim when the argument is still on? I'm still arguing right now and I have been the best debater on /ck/ for how many years now? I'm arguing with one of the worst spergs in the thread who just happen to get a one up because they're feeding off shitposts and samefagging. But you know what? They still fucking suck. I'm still one of the best fucking debaters on /ck/, I went 13-3 last year and would of won the last thread that hit the bump limit if the thread didn't get archived. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded posts like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when I win and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, you just made a shitty argument when you really needed a good one, just like the other anon did. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a post on this board again and I'm fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-intellectual topics because you're a faggot hater who doesn't like me because I'm smart. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking people on the board, like I give a fuck. It's so easy to spot out your posts now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a post like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

>> No.18166738

>>18166723
Meds

>> No.18166754

>>18166723
See >>18166630

>> No.18166766

>>18166230
>Is a nations food culture directly linked to how healthy the average person is from these countries or is that a myth pushed by Big Vegan Jamie Oliver?
Partially this, but also probably quite importantly how walkable the urban environment is built like, with how comically rare places in the US are where you can get comfortably around without a car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPUlgSRn6e0

>> No.18166770

>>18166738
>>18166754
Newfags

>> No.18166781

The diet of the Samoan population is known to consist of large portion sizes, and is rich in saturated fat and energy-dense, nutrient-poor ingredients https://metrosouth.health.qld.gov.au/sites/default/files/profile_samoa_dietetic.pdf

Escalating obesity rates have become a significant public health problem in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region and have been associated with shifts towards a westernized diet: http://www.emro.who.int/emhj-volume-22-2016/volume-22-issue-10/dietary-transition-and-obesity-in-selected-arabic-speaking-countries-a-review-of-the-current-evidence.html

The typical Western (American) diet is low in fruits and vegetables, and high in fat and sodium. Moreover, this diet consists of large portions, high calories, and excess sugar. This excess sugar accounts for more than 13% of the daily caloric intake with beverages constituting 47% of these added sugars: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7721435/

I have no idea why this is even a topic. If you love life and love living grow your own food and make your own dishes. If you're depressed: double so. Boycott supermarkets, Heinz, Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Inbev, Nestlé, Unilever, fast food chains.

Fight back and live.

>> No.18166782

>>18166664
>get BTFO
> instantly pivots to something else
a tale old as time

>> No.18166791

>>18166782
Nigga I didn't even read whatever y'all are arguing about, I don't care, I just thought it was funny

>> No.18167040

>>18166230
The food pyramid with its mass of carby grains (subsidised by American Department of Agriculture) and pushing corn syrup caused this.

>> No.18167062

>>18166506
Get a grip loser the jews aren't to get your lardass Car's keys anytime soob

>> No.18167126

>>18167040
Food pyramid says to limit added sugar. The majority of people have never followed the food pyramid.

>> No.18167165

>>18167040
Nobody gets fat from eating potatoes and real bread. Blaming everything on the food pyramid is a keto cope.

>> No.18167187

>>18166651
So, Arkansas is the place to be for a fat fetishest it seems.

>> No.18167324

>mexico isn't on the list
damn how old is this?

>> No.18167387

>>18166286
Ah yes, the pacific islanders and their great population of five families and a dog.

>> No.18167507

>>18166355
Yeah it's this. I live in a redneck place and it's considered totally normal to be at least 30lbs overweight

>> No.18168156

>>18166236
I don't get why you keep spouting this because it's not true. You can literally go to the US and see stupidly fat white Americans. Go to anywhere else and it's no where near as bad. It's no meme that Mexicans are fatasses too but you're just coping if you think American culture isn't obese

>> No.18168257

>>18167187
Yes, please go to Arkansas and never leave

>> No.18168262

>>18167324
The starving children skew the numbers

>> No.18168376

>>18166268
lmao, so the WHO is just cherrypicking first world countries, and is leaving out about 40 third world shit holes because it would hurt their feelings to call the local browns fat?

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>>18168376
basically. there are other considerations but I don't know how they're weighting their calculations to omit some countries. like fine, Tonga has a culture that actually requires males to get fat on sweet milk for years in order to achieve status and a wife, but the rest of them? come fucking on. Kuwait? i mean come on.

>> No.18168423

>>18168400
Probably only counting "developed" nations or something I'd guess

>> No.18168765

>>18166230
That's outdated af. The US obesity rate is above 40% now.

>> No.18168790

>>18168765
>Source: trust me bro

>> No.18168906

>>18166651
>2014
Got any modern charts, chief?

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>>18166236
This is just beyond cope, this is just something else holy shit.

>> No.18169057

>>18168376
Most of these countries on the top of the list are rocks in the ocean with <100000 people on it. And it's mostly genetic there.

>> No.18169076

>>18166230
I thought Mexico passed us at some point.

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>>18169057
>...And here's where I keep my "genetics".

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