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After living in Japan for 4 years, I can tell you with certainty that 90% of the shit you see in those "Japanese food etiquette" videos and guides is complete bullshit.

Japs drench their sushi in soy sauce, nobody gives a fuck what you do with your chopsticks, and nobody is impressed by how loud you can slurp your ramen.

>> No.18111835

>>18111825
I mean, yes. The Japanese have a cultural tradition of being polite and accommodating to guests/customers/visitors. You could do everything but flip the table and not raise an eyebrow.

>> No.18112909 [DELETED] 

>>18111835
Nice try amerilard
I too live in Japan (and am Japanese) and he's talking about the Japanese people doing all that shit
The whole politeness thing is mostly a facade btw, they do these things because they *have* to, not out of any sense of genuine politeness
Visiting overseas and seeing people actually be polite because they wanted to be was eye opening
Also seeing niggers in America, that shit was funny

>> No.18112958

>>18111825
lmao, as a half japanese here's my thoughts.
the soy sauce thing is personal choice, but if you eat at a good counter place it will be put on for you.
nobody gives a fuck but when I see someone struggling with chopsticks that isn't a child I think lmao what a retard
and you don't slurp to impress people. the noodles are hot and easier to eat like that.
you are right that the food etiquette guides are bullshit, though.

>> No.18113443

>>18111825
I live in Japan and people here genuinely think that corn on pizza is delicious and some sort of hidden italian delicacy. People here are really fucking nuts about italian food but can never remotely cook anything like it. There are loads upon loads of "italian" restaurants here but when you go in it's always some weird fucking japanese ripoff where they fuck up all of the dishes by adding jap shit like raw squid and eel and shit to it and then they try to fucking play it off as "real italian food". It doesn't help that people here don't know what normal bread or cheese is. It's all fucking gross. I have not had any normal-tasting cheese in all the time I've lived here, and good bread is about as rare as a properly paid salaryman. These people are born on this island, they will live their whole lives on this island, and they will die on this island without ever tasting real bread or cheese in their life and that's just sort of sad. The worst part is that because no japanese person actually knows what real italian food is like, nobody can call restaurants out on this bullshit, everyone eats it all up and calls it "honto ni umaiiiii uwuwuwu" and everyone thinks this is what real italian food is like. It's just sad. "Oh rettsu addu fishu eggu andu seaweedu to pasta carbonara don't u kno this is how rearu itarian peeporu eat!". The worst part for me is that japan doesn't just massacre classic italian food like this, but they also do it with every other country's cuisine imaginable. French, spanish, mexican, turkish, you name it. They botch everything they come across as "wow foreign so cool" but it's never apparently fucking good enough unless they douse it in soy sauce and raw octopus to make it "authentic european" food. Don't get me wrong I love me some japanese food but fuck this country for ruining foreign food culture and fuck the people for being too retarded to not know what real food is like, even though they kind of can't help it, fuck em it's gross

>> No.18113455

>>18111825
You had to live in japan for 4 years to realize that?
lmao retard.

>> No.18113475
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What would someone in Japan even do if they where upset with you about how you place your food sticks? They don't even have guns over there.

>> No.18113480

>>18113475
Behead you with their katana

>> No.18113484

>>18113475
assassinate you

>> No.18113485

>>18113475
Build a gun and shoot you.

>> No.18113489

>>18113475
Call upon Gamera to breathe fire on you.

>> No.18113678

>>18113455
Time dilation causes most things in japan to take many times as long to learn compared to everywhere else, for example takes 10 years to learn how to scoop rice for sushi and another 10 years to learn how to buy the fish

>> No.18113689

>>18111825
>nobody gives a fuck what you do with your chopsticks
False
>nobody gives a fuck what you do with your chopsticks, and nobody is impressed by how loud you can slurp your ramen
You’re a dumbshit for ever having thought that in the first place.
>After living in Japan for 4 years
100% doubt.

>> No.18113784

>>18113443
now this is a pasta I havent seen in a good while

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>>18113475

>> No.18113788

>>18113475
bind your feet

>> No.18113797

>>18111825
Op consider the fact that 50% or more of american uk, au cunts slap bbq ketchup or tomato sauce on anything in copious amounts, while the people with finer taste in their respective countries do tend not to put too much sauce The same is true in japan. don't ever post about this again you fuckin inbred flyover trash

>> No.18113798

Now why would I, a white man living on the east coast of the USA, give a shit what a backwards ass island dweller thinks about me? Peasants or slanty type.

>> No.18113803

>>18113443
Corn on pizza is delicious because it is a vegetable that imparts sweetness onto the pizza without being as dominating as pineapple.Try it for yourself and open your mind

>> No.18114353

>>18111825
It's sad that in the four years you've lived here you've never once been to an upscale restaurant.

>> No.18114404

>>18113475
gas you in the subway

>> No.18114411

>>18113678
there is no physical evidence for the existence of trannies in japan

>> No.18114429

>>18114411
I have 14TB of futa porn that proves you dead wrong.

>> No.18115491

>>18113443
the funniest thing they take pride in is the mentaiko spaghetti thing. they treat it like its amazing and some genius culinary mix of japan and italy. its fine, but its sad how much they promote it.

>> No.18115528

>>18111825
They're judging you silently, except in Kyoto, where every comment is a backhanded insult even if it sounds like a compliment.

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coming in with real japanese etiquette

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>>18115537
>when you start off with manliness then struggle to learn first love

>> No.18116972

>>18111835
Nice try amerilard
I too live in Japan (and am Japanese) and he's talking about the Japanese people doing all that shit
The whole politeness thing is mostly a facade btw, they do these things because they *have* to, not out of any sense of genuine politeness
Visiting overseas and seeing people actually be polite because they wanted to be was eye opening
Also seeing blacks in America, that shit was funny

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>>18113443
That's one of the bad things about Iron Chef because every dish turns into Japanese food even when they claim it's French or Italian. Plus half the episodes are about seafood.

>> No.18117061

>>18113443
I'm gonna be honest I'm part Japanese and my father made spaghetti with canned tuna and soy sauce in it growing up...

AND IT FUCKING BANGED, JAPAN HAS THE MOST 3 MICHELIN STARRED RESTAURANTS IN THE WORLD SUCK SHIT EAT THE SQUID CARBONARA BITCH UMAIIII

>> No.18117603

>>18116972
Based hikkomori slurping the noodles and dabbing on nogs and mutts

>> No.18117607

>>18113475
Do a jutjisu and awake their Sharingan

>> No.18117614

>>18113475
Beat the shit out of your on thier Mecas
Livestream a Live TV show about you
Make a wierd kitkat flavor of your forearm flesh

>> No.18118157

>>18113475
come out of your tv and kill you

>> No.18118164

>>18113475
Glare judgementally when you aren't looking.

>> No.18118193

>>18115537
Source?

>> No.18118196

a chef there only went out of his way to advise me that the ginger is supposed to be a palette cleanser and not shoved in your mouth alongside every bite

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>>18113485

>> No.18118225

>>18113485
good thing im immune to bullets

>> No.18118262

>>18118196
Did you look him straight in the eye and eat a sashimi wrapped in ginger?

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>>18111825
Yeah man, I bet you also thought that Hispanics eat their local food in post-modern-harmonious-high-design Michelin-tier reataurants and put napkins on their laps to eat fucking tostones.
Massive retard.

>> No.18118294

>>18113443
WOW, Japan really is just like America

>> No.18118304

>>18111825
You don't have to practice "Japanese food etiquette" all the time, but knowing it is helpful. When I went to Japan, the women I went out to eat with would laugh when I held my chopsticks near the tip (kodomo mitai!), and when I stuck the chopsticks in a bowl of rice instead of setting them on the dirty tabel, they'd ask me who died. Men are the same in Japan as anywhere else. If you eat "impolitely," most won't say anything to you, but they will notice. All that is going to happen is you have to live with the social consequences of acting like a buffoon in public.

>> No.18118793

>>18118304
>and when I stuck the chopsticks in a bowl of rice instead of setting them on the dirty tabel, they'd ask me who died
yeah ok dude

>> No.18118811

>>18118304
When did they clap for your mastery of japanese culture?
>just because it happened in my mind doesnt make it less real
Back to anime with you

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>>18113475
NTR you

>> No.18119919

>>18115528
kek I love how accurate this is

>> No.18120010

>>18112958
>half nip in kkkalifornia with a white dad passing judgement about supposed Japanese customs
Ok retard

>> No.18120023

>>18116992
That's because the judges are japanese and the iron chefs know you have to twist everything to suit their palate.

>> No.18121074

>>18120023
why is japanese cuisine so hilariously bad?
the main staple dish of nipponland is sushi which is literally just fish on rice
their curry is just watered soup
ramen is just inferior version of authentic Chinese noodles
even instant noodles is taiwanese (Chinese) and not from japan

why could the nips not make a satisfactory cuisine?

>> No.18121456 [DELETED] 

>>18113475
Put kabuki makeup on you

>> No.18121696 [DELETED] 

>>18111825
good as i prefer to eat my sushi with my bare hands and just stuff my face

>> No.18121852 [DELETED] 

>>18113443

Corn on pizza isn't just a Japanese thing, it's a Euro thing too. I've had corn on pizza in seven or eight different European countries. Japs do love it though. Also macaroni salad.

>> No.18121885 [DELETED] 

>>18118793
This

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>>18111825
japanese have different standards they apply to themselves

>> No.18122291

>>18122102
In addition, it depends on whether you are wealthy or not.

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>>18113443
I thought corn on pizza was an american thing

>> No.18122401

>>18118304
This. I was out drinking beer with 4 Japanese women and I just began eating with my chopsticks without saying anything and they were like "eto...sumimasen, senpai. Itadakimasu ga inai no ni!!" and I was like "Oh shit suman suman Inoue-chan. Hazukashii desu. I am such a namaiki gaki da."

That was a close one. Or the time I dipped my Unagi roll in too much soy sauce and one of my female friends was like "Kyaa! Otoko janai no!(Otoko means man in Japanese) Sawaranai de, kono boke ga!" and I was like "Jesus christ! Fuzakeyagatte! Tomare expecting ore to kiiteru to all of your gachigachi nonsense, Shinobu-chan! I have an inochi to ikiru outside of your sabaku or oshioki for improper manaa!"

Suffice to say, I had to smooth things over with my female nakama or else I would have had to commit ritual suicide.

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>>18122401

>> No.18122441

>>18114411
Most of them move elsewhere because it's borderline impossible to get it done there

>> No.18122490

>>18114429
Jesus, imagine what you could have accomplished in the time you spent downloading and watching that garbage instead

>> No.18122552

>>18118304
This
>>18111825
There are a ton of eating rules and etiquette that most people don't even know about, like eating each group of food evenly, and you are actually supposed to separate your chopsticks horizontally, not vertically.

If you're just eating with friends or a quick lunch with coworkers, most people won't give a shit, and as long as you have basic food etiquette you'll probably be fine (other than possibly looking like a baka gaijin if you suck at chopsticks)

However, it is good to know them, and it depends on your setting. If you are on a date you want to be able to do everything well so you don't look like a kid or clumsy.

For extremely formal dinners with important government officials or business people, you want to be able to do most of the rules. Even if they don't, if you are "below" them, you should follow as many rules as much as possible. It's not so much "don't break the rule/law" as it is demonstrating your knowledge of the culture and showing you are polite and take the situation seriously.

>> No.18122575

>>18113475
*teleport behind you*

>> No.18122580

>>18122552
Yeah this guy gets it and is offering some very sound advice to a lot of people who could definitely use it. I know I'm often having dinners with Japanese bosses and they would definitely determine whether I'm getting a raise or moving up in the company based on my dinner habits as a foreigner.

He's right guys, proper table etiquette is no joke. You never know when you will have to impress your Japanese boss or a room full of Japanese businessmen.

Don't forget to eat your food evenly or the nearest sushi chef will butcher your fingers off for your rude behavior.

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>>18122580

>> No.18122614

>>18122552
This guy gets it. I separated my chopsticks vertically and literally nobody in the entire country would have sex with me. It's a big deal over there because there's no other reason that could happen.

>> No.18122627

>>18122304
This is the most obvious example of a foreign country’s product trying to emulate american food you fucking imbecilic peon.

>> No.18122652

>>18122580
>>18122614
>I literally can't read so I'm going to samefag to help my insecurity of using chopsticks with two hands

>> No.18122680

>>18122552
This guy gets it. You gotta be very careful and strictly adhere to the rules with all the Japanese formal dinners you'll be attending. It's okay to break these rules behind closed doors and under a friendly chabudai, but if you do these things on a date? Don't expect to get laid.

One time I eat my food unevenly and my date summoned the Yakuza on me.

>> No.18122687

>not yelling "BANZAI" everytime you take a drink or bite to eat

>> No.18122691

>>18122552
This guy gets it. Remember, NEVER put your chopsticks in rice. NEVER separate your chopsticks vertically. NEVER eat your food unevenly. NEVER hold your chopsticks near the end. These are serious social faux pas. You wouldn't want to be a baka gaijin like he said.

>> No.18122714

>>18118193
A series of shorts called “the japanese tradition”, I haven’t seen all of them but the sushi one is also good

>> No.18124077

>>18113443
Also living in Japan and here and carry the same sentiment. Why the FUCK can I not find ANY REMOTELY GOOD ITALIAN PLACES god fucking dammit STOP PUTTING SHIT LIKE CORN AND SEAWEED ON FUCKING PIZZA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

pasta here can be pretty decent though

>> No.18124110

>>18113443
Here's a thought, make your own cheese and if you make enough to sell, sell it. It's really not hard to make.

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>>18113797
Try not to be so fucking gay next time you post on here.

>> No.18124554

>>18113443
>they fuck up all of the dishes by adding jap shit like raw squid and eel
>what is frutti di mare

>> No.18125125

>>18122401
this was a fun read

>> No.18125126

Nobody cares how you eat sushi if you're eating it from a konbini or one of those conveyor belt places or cheapo places. But, if you're not a poor person and go to an actual sushi place where the chef is standing over you watching you eat there are a lot of things you could do that are disrespectful like deconstructing the roll, putting soy sauce on the rice, not eating it in one bite (ask for a smaller portion instead), not eating it right away etc etc.

But the real redpill that op is forgetting is that nobody expects foreigners to know or care about politeness so unironically it doesn't matter what you do as long as you don't bother people around you.

>> No.18125174

>>18111825
I thought it was understood that those were jokes?

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>>18113475
>no guns

>> No.18125326

>m-muh etiquette
blow it our your ass JF. We're glorified monkeys, I'll eat however I fuck well want

>> No.18125334

>>18125326
This. If I were to go to Japan I would eat like a barbarian and act like a white devil.

>> No.18125798

>>18113443
Imagine a fucking poor man who has only been to fake Italian restaurants like Saizeriya

>> No.18125823

>>18113443
Japanese style Mexican food is a human rights violation

>> No.18127245

>>18111825
nice blog, incel

>> No.18128039

>>18111825
>Japs drench their sushi in soy sauce, nobody gives a fuck what you do with your chopsticks, and nobody is impressed by how loud you can slurp your ramen.
Good

>> No.18128480

>>18111825
>Japs drench their sushi in soy sauce, nobody gives a fuck what you do with your chopsticks, and nobody is impressed by how loud you can slurp your ramen.
>gaijin smashes and no one punches him in the face
>everyone loves me

>> No.18128739

I live in Japan and the only time a girl I was dating was like Wow gaijins are weird was when some loud as fuck americans put mayonnaise and tonkatsu sauce all over their rice.

Personally I've seen Americans being especially retarded here many times. I was at a winter festival in Nozawa Onsen, Nagano, they were giving out sake to everyone and everyone was having a good time. At this festival they build a big treehouse and older dudes in the village have to stay up top and defend it, while younger dudes attack it with fire, trying to burn it down. It could be the other way around I cant remember. There was a group of americans who were way too drunk and talking extremely loudly. I guess one of the girls wasnt getting enough attention because she started crying really loudly and yelling YOU ALWAYS DO THIS! to someone in her group. Keep in mind this is a festival for locals and their families, not fucking cochella or something. It would be like if someone got beligerant at one of those gay church picnics americans have.

Anyway she's sobbing like she just found out she had 2 minutes to live when suddenly she slips on the ice and knocks herself out and her friends, in their american accents where saying, oh shit we need to get her to a doctor now. Haha it was like watching a tv show. Meanwhile all the Japanese people were just like, ehhhhh yabe. Sugoi ne, daijoubu? My then girlfriend said "wow fuckin crazy" and I nearly pissed myself laughing.

>> No.18128829

>>18128739
based pasta copier

>> No.18128856

>>18113786
Holy shit lmao

>> No.18128966

>>18111825
>nobody gives a fuck what you do with your chopsticks,

You don't live in Japan.

You can be a big massive American asshole and no one will say anything the entire time right up until you stick your chopsticks in rice

>> No.18128989

>>18128966
Ignorance is bliss I guess

>> No.18129306

>>18112958
>as a half japanese
stopped reading there, kys

>> No.18129978

>>18128829
Wrote that while I was taking a shit mate although I wouldnt be surprised if someone had a similar experience

>> No.18129987

japan is nice observed from afar and when you can pick and choose what parts you have to interact with
i can't fucking imagine having to live around them or work under them or go to their schools, it would be a fucking nightmare

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>>18111825
after being in jap-an for 10 years i can say that I haven't watched other people eat i mostly look at my own food

>> No.18130019

>>18129987
There’s a few things that are fucking nightmares and most of them have to do with driving (which I have to do because I live in Okinawa). The JCI is a huge scam, why the fuck do I have to pay my road tax in cash and in person, why the fuck is the road tax separate from the weight tax, why can’t the Japanese drive not down the middle of the fucking road in an alleyway, why the fuck do they drive so slowly, can you please not fucking stop in the middle of the goddam road I’m trying to turn here, holy fuck why are the lights tuned to where you hit every goddam one, Jesus Fucking Christ guys there’s a mother fucking ambulance coming down the road get the god damn fuck out of their god damn way, etc.