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18021922 No.18021922 [Reply] [Original]

When ordering food, what's the best value meals to get? What should I avoid ordering ripoff wise? For example, I've been told pasta and noodle based items are blatant ripoffs

>> No.18021927

>>18021922
>frog poster
Begone

>> No.18021939

>>18021927
Go back

>> No.18021957
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18021957

>>18021922
what was the reasoning behing the pasta ripoff theory?

>> No.18021965

>>18021957
Basically that pasta is super cheap and they charge you an ass load for it, same with noodles

>> No.18021968

Some things can be a good deal, but there's no such thing as a rip-off if you aren't willing to cook the thing yourself. Dumb frog.

>> No.18021973

>>18021968
>but there's no such thing as a rip-off
That's wrong though

>> No.18021979

>>18021965
That's not a ripoff. Is ordering a beverage a ripoff? Everyone knows the margins on beverages are incredible. But if I want a lemonade I'm going to buy one for a dollar or two. If I was ripped off, they would bring me a tiny paper dentist cup of water with lemon juice squirted into it.

>> No.18021987

>>18021973
When you take that one clause out of context of course it's wrong. We're not talking about one place charging more than another place for the same thing; OP is specifically talking about certain items (e.g. pasta) being a ripoff because the ingredients cost a lot less than what they're charging for them. And again, if you aren't willing to make lasagna for yourself then it's not a ripoff to order lasagna from a restaurant.

>> No.18021997

>>18021979
How is that not a ripoff? You think buying 25 bucks for pasta isn't a fucking ripoff? Also yes, that example is a ripoff

>>18021987
But that's the point, it's a blatant ripoff. Obviously it'll be cheaper to cook it yourself but that's not the point. You're just playing semantics.

>> No.18022004

>>18021922
Ramen is the best value possible.

>> No.18022013
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18022013

>>18021997
If the pasta is made by hand by someone with a connection to their nonna that labor is surely worth it, if I want pasta I demand pasta. >>18021979
has it figured out.

>> No.18022015

>>18021997
Let's say a restaurant charges $12 for a burger, $16 for lasagna, and $22 for salmon. Do those prices seem reasonable to you? They do to me. What you're saying is that you found out the food cost for the restaurant is lower for the lasagna than the other items, and therefore it's somehow a ripoff. This isn't taking into account labor costs, and you're unwilling to make the lasagna at home, and yet you're still claiming that it's somehow a ripoff. That makes no sense.

>> No.18022025

>>18022013
>>18022015
>Muh labor
Right because we all know how fucking difficult it is to cook a plate of fucking pasta. What kind of bullshit argument is this? And again this isn't about cooking it at home. Why do you think it's ok to charge out the ass for pasta? 16 bucks is ridiculous.

>> No.18022033

>>18021997
You're a fucking moron then and you don't know what a ripoff is. If I order chicken lo mein and I'm served chicken lo mein, I have not been ripped off. I saw a price next to a food I wanted and decided that I was willing to pay that much in exchange for that specific dish.
If you're really trying to Jew-max, don't eat out at all. Enjoy a life of rice, potatoes, chicken, and water. Oh and I hope you don't have a water filter. Those are such ripoffs when you can literally get water FOR FREE from the sky.

If I take my car in for an oil change and tire rotation, but they don't rotate my tires, I have been ripped off. I did not receive the services I expected my money to pay for.
If a restaurant tacks on a gratuity bill or doubles the price of the food you ordered and you weren't clearly notified of these charges, then you've been ripped off.

>> No.18022038

>>18022025
>i could totally make this myself it's so simple
>but i wont
>but that's not important
You're pretty dumb, aren't you? It's like you're intentionally missing the point. I bet you fucking love posting in tipping threads.

>> No.18022040
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18022040

>>18022025
any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair

>> No.18022076

>>18022033
I'm being a jew because I don't want to overpay for pasta? How are the people charging 25 dollars for pasta or 15 dollars for lo mein not the jews?

>>18022038
What fucking point? If anything you're the one who's missing the point with this ridiculous argument of "dur no ripoff unless you cook it". That's not the issue here.

>>18022040
No

>> No.18022090

>>18022033
You're still ripped off if you agree to be ripped off. You're very convinced you're right about this, but you're not.

>> No.18022116

>>18022090
Exactly, finally someone with a fucking brain.

>> No.18022150

>>18022090
>>18022116
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rip-off#:~:text=1%20%3A%20an%20act%20or%20instance,off%3B%20ripping%20off%3B%20rips%20off

rip-off
noun
\ ˈrip-ˌȯf \
Definition of rip-off (Entry 1 of 2)
1: an act or instance of stealing : THEFT
also : a financial exploitation
2: a usually cheap exploitive imitation

rip off
verb
ripped off; ripping off; rips off
Definition of rip off (Entry 2 of 2)
transitive verb

1a: ROB
also : CHEAT, DEFRAUD
b: STEAL
2: to copy or imitate blatantly or unscrupulously
3: to perform, achieve, or score quickly or easily

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I am convinced I'm right about this because I am factually correct. By agreeing to pay for something and then receiving what you wanted, you are not ripped off.
Nice thread OP.

>> No.18022240

>>18022076
>this ridiculous argument of "dur no ripoff unless you cook it". That's not the issue here.
The explain what the issue is, because apparently I am missing your point. From what I can tell you're mad that restaurants make different profit margins on different dishes, and my point is that food cost is irrelevant if you're not willing to cook the dish for yourself.

>> No.18022248

>>18022150
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rip-off
Sorry, it's over.

>> No.18022251

>>18022150
/ck/, everyone. /ck/.

>> No.18022265

>>18021922
>For example, I've been told pasta and noodle based items are blatant ripoffs
what the fuck do you want the best or the blatant ripoffs
the best values are fuck off
the blatant ripoffs are fuck off

>> No.18022266

>>18022248
I don't recognize Cambridge, or any institution from Bongland.
>Jolly o', lad. Appleton just saw the queen dump 'er tea on 'er bumbleedongs!
Learn a real language.

>> No.18022283

>>18022150
I love how you posted the definition of ripoff and it justifies what I'm saying. So no you are not correct, at all.

>>18022240
The issue is paying top dollar for a meal that costs peanuts to make. There is no way you can justify 25 dollars for pasta.

>>18022265
How about you fuck off entirely as this thread seems to be above your IQ

>> No.18022293

>>18022283
>How about you fuck off entirely as this thread seems to be above your IQ
it seems your tardation level is the one in question. you say you want the best deals but your example is the worst deal

>> No.18022295

>>18022283
Did they steal from you? No. You paid for it.
Did they bring imitation pasta? No.
Not ripped off.
I can't even imagine how, in your head, that justifies what you're saying. Learn what market price and profit are.
If you thought I have anywhere to be right now instead of (You)ing about this pointless topic, you'd be wrong.

>> No.18022301

>>18022283
>the issue is paying top dollar for a meal that costs peanuts to make
But again, if you're not going to make it yourself then the profit margins on the food cost are irrelevant. That's what it goes for on the market, so either you pay it or you don't get to eat lasagna. It's like you're getting mad at gay people you've never met because they have gay sex in the privacy of their bedroom and that rubs you the wrong way and when asked why it bothers you you literally can't give a clear answer. You're almost doubling down on "it's the principle of the matter!" which is what fags do.

>> No.18022348

>>18022301
WHICH IS THE BEST VALUE THEY ARE NOT ALL THE SAME VALUE FUCKING HELL

>> No.18022360

>>18022348
Value is relative. Maybe you want the $12 burger because it will fill you up and is the cheapest. Maybe you want the $22 salmon because it's good quality for the price and not something you get often. Or maybe you think the $16 lasagna is the best value because it's twice as many calories as the salmon, you're carb loading, and you love lasagna.

>> No.18022405

>>18022293
Yes, I pointed out an example of the worst deal. That was the point I was making retard.

>>18022295
>If they don't steal it directly you're not ripped off
You're really not getting it. You can agree to pay for something AND get ripped off at the same fucking time. What is hard to understand here?

>>18022301
Again it's not about making it yourself. And why are you talking about gay people?

>> No.18022415

>>18022405
>and why are you talking about gay people?
Because you're being a massive faggot.

>> No.18022420

>>18022266
Kek

>> No.18022421

>>18022415
How am I being a faggot? Because I don't want to overpay for pasta?

>> No.18022426

>>18022421
No, because you refuse to explain how it's overpaying if you're not willing to make the dish yourself. I keep explaining - in multiple different ways - how the food cost is irrelevant when buying the ingredients yourself is out of the question, and you just keep repeating that it has nothing to do with whether or not you're going to cook it yourself. I'm not sure if you're a moron or a troll.

>> No.18022432

>>18022301
This guy is so autistic it hurts. I almost feel bad for him. He probably got bullied so bad in school.

>> No.18022439

>>18022405
>You can agree to pay for something AND get ripped off at the same fucking time.
I know. If you order fish and chips, but they only give you 1 fried fish but the picture shows a basket of 3, then you have been ripped off. What you expected you were paying for isn't what you got.
Misleading ads, price gouging, hidden fees, and anything from China -- rip offs.
Paying $18 for a bowl of tonkotsu ramen -- not a rip off. Unless they served you a tiny amount, or they used shitty ingredients, or the noodles were undercooked, etc.
Paying $22 for "oh a my, what's'a this? Thissa spaghetti taste-a justa like how me mama used to a-make it back in the homeland" Spaghetti and Meatballs but only receiving one meatball -- rip off.

>> No.18022443

>>18022426
You keep focusing on the wrong thing. This is like telling someone they're not being ripped off by the mechanic if they don't want to fix the car themselves. That's not what the issue is and even if it were it doesn't justify being ripped off because "durrrrr you didn't make it yourself". That's a bullshit argument.

>> No.18022448

>>18022432
>people stop replying to op's bait
>he immediately resorts to ad hominem
Like clockwork.

>> No.18022450

>>18022439
Both of those are ripoffs. So you think it's only a ripoff if you get lied to?

>>18022448
That's not OP

>> No.18022455

>>18022443
>like telling someone they're not being ripped off by the mechanic if they don't want to fix the car themselves
Except in this analogy every mechanic is charging the same price, or at least the mechanic you're going to isn't charging any more than other mechanics available in your area. So no, if you don't know how to fix whatever's wrong with your car and have to go to a professional who's charging a competitive price then you are not being ripped off.

>> No.18022469
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>>18022450
Yes. By definition. I posted it above.
You have been rip offed if you have been cheated, not if you disagree with the price but choose to pay anyway.

>> No.18022476

>>18022469
>also : a financial exploitation
This definition?

>> No.18022478

There’s this higher end Asian buffet (like 30 euros per person) in some rich people town and it’s always funny to see all of them normies and boomers stuffing their faces with eggrolls and fried rice, while there are widely available slices of tataki tuna and all sorts of seafood.

>> No.18022491

>>18022476
Yep. And do you know what financial exploitation is? Because it's got nothing to do with the margin of noodles lmfao.
$25 noodle dishes aren't embezzlement or identity fraud. They're just out of your price range :)

>> No.18022498

>>18022478
Same with the Brazilian steakhouse around here. It's a shame, too, because their salad bar and bread are actually very tasty. But I'm not paying $40/seat to not stuff my face with 20 chicken hearts minimum.

>> No.18022505

>>18022491
Yes. If they exploit your desire for fresh noodles by inflating the price, and you see the inflated price but buy it anyway because you want fresh noodles so badly, you are financially exploited.

>> No.18022517

>>18022505
You're either resorting to clowning because you can't admit that you were wrong, or you're so retarded or fucked up on drugs that you genuinely believe what you just said. Financial exploitation isn't some broad term that you throw around whenever you want to sound smart and "oppressed". It's a term used for a specific group of crimes.

>> No.18022525

Honestly the only time I felt like I got ripped off was at a korean restaurant and they just served me instant noodle. I mean, I expected something else.

>> No.18022555

>>18022517
or you idiot, it means exactly what the words mean, being exploited financially. we ignore labor costs, because this is not a Michelin star restaurant with molecular agronomists, they are line cooks, if they are even that. so if something costs pennies in ingredients, and they upcharge you 1000% it is not a good deal, and a thing that is not a good deal, is called a ripoff.

>> No.18022575

>>18022555
So now your argument is that we can just ignore labor cost because you don't believe line cooks deserve to make what little they do? You've gone full retard at this point.

>> No.18022592

>>18022575
we can ignore labor costs, because the labor is not specialized. and I'm not even the person you were arguing with before. they are cooking the food, they get paid the same no matter what food they cook. would you pay $40 for a glass of water? or would that be a rip off.

>> No.18022606

>>18022443
>issue
>were
RETARD

>> No.18022607

>>18022592
The labor cost is how much time the dish takes in prep work. OP is repeatedly saying that pasta costs pennies, but that's only true if you're making everything from scratch, which takes time, It takes me like 5 minutes to clean and portion a whole salmon, but if you're making lasagna from scratch that's easily going to be over an hour of work. You're essentially paying the line cook over 10 times more to prepare the lasagna, so saying you can disregard labor cost is retarded.

>> No.18022608

>>18022555
man, read the rest of the thread before replying to me. we've gone over this multiple times.
disagreeing with a price doesn't make it a ripoff.

>> No.18022629

>>18022607
lasagna is not a plate of pasta, its a different thing. the time making that lasagna makes many more portions then you'd get from a salmon.

>> No.18022634

>>18022608
it does when the value proposition is low relative to what else you could purchase with the same funds.

>> No.18022636

>>18022629
Both of those points are arguable, but it doesn't matter because they're just nitpicks and have nothing to do with the point about labor cost being a real thing that you can't just disregard for whatever bullshit reason you made up in your head.

>> No.18022661

>>18022636
the labor costs are standardized, only the ingredients vary. if you don't see how this effects things, idk what else to say. 20 minutes making a burger you sell for $15 vs 20 minutes making plain white rice you sell for $15. you can see the better value there right?

>> No.18022671

>>18022661
Just because I'm saying labor cost is a real factor doesn't mean I'm reducing everything to labor. Are you being intentionally dense?

>> No.18022682

>>18021922
You have fucking 11 threads up on /b/ RIGHT NOW. WTF are you doing? What do you want? Why do you suck so much cock? Please DIE tonight.

>> No.18022705

>>18022671
labor costs are a complete non issue. when you go into a restaurant and order food, you are not caring about the people who prepare it, you only care about the type and amount of food you get for the money. that is the sole determining factor.

>> No.18022718

>>18022705
>you are not caring about the people who prepare it, you only care about the type and amount of food you get for the money
And that's not how the restaurant prices things because they're taking into consideration both food costs and labor costs. So once again, the only way you can disregard labor costs is if you're willing to buy the raw ingredients and make the dish yourself.

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18022791

This is literally the dumbest fucking thread I've seen on here in a while. Well done everyone. I sincerely mean that.

>> No.18022803

>>18022791
Thank. I really killed an afternoon on the cooking board of a proto-Indo-European competitive cup stacking forum.

>> No.18022807

>>18021939
No matter where I go I'm gonna run into these god forsaken frogs

>> No.18022906

>>18022498
>Brazilian steakhouse
Those places are so outrageously overpriced it's not even funny. Steakhouses in general are like that but holy fuck do these people take it to another level.

>> No.18022924

>>18022607
>Lasagna
Now tell us how much "labor" goes into making ramen noodles or linguine and why charging over $20 for either is OK

>> No.18022935

all takeout food is a rip off anon.

When I order food, I usually get food that is a bitch to make or is extremely time consuming.

I always avoid pasta, any drinks, and burgers unless it's a special burger

>> No.18022940

>>18022803
Kek

>> No.18022978

>>18022924
Assuming both the noodles and broth are made in house, there's a shit ton of labor involved in making ramen. I don't usually see ramen or linguini for over $20 unless there's some expensive ingredients involved. You're never had a job before, have you?

>> No.18023210

>>18022978
How much do both of those cost where you live? Almost every restaurant around here charges at least $20 or more for both, unless you get it plain which is even more of a ripoff

>> No.18023237

>>18023210
I just looked at 2 of the better Italian places around me and the linguini dishes top out at about $20, but average about $16. Looking at 2 ramen places one is $13.50 for every bowl and the other runs between $12-$16. I don't exactly live in the middle of nowhere either.

>> No.18023243

>>18021922
>ordering food
>thinking it can be cheap
lol, lmao even

>> No.18023248

>>18021957
>>18021965
>>18021979
>>18021997
>>18022013
>>18022025
All starches are a scam