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Everything she cooks and buys is keto now. I'm fucking dying of starvation here because I'm not getting the essential carbohydrates I need. Tonight I've been desperately looking in the cupboards for anything nourishing and there isn't shit. What the fuck am I going to do?

>> No.18005796

Go to the store and buy yourself food like a fucking adult?

>> No.18005804

>>18005792
OP here, forgot to mention that i am morbidly obese and also trans :^)

>> No.18005813

>>18005792
Tell your idiot mom that insufficient carbs spike her cortisol and inhibit fat loss and that whole grains and legumes are okay so long as she sprouts them or soak overnight.

>> No.18005828

>>18005792
Imagine voluntarily revealing that you can only eat what mommy buys

>> No.18005837

Pasta is $1/lb.

A 20lb bag of rice is $8.

>> No.18005845

>>18005828
He also revealed he's fat and she's doing it for him as much as her self, else she'd have bought him some hamburger buns.

The funny part is that she's probably sneaking candy bars and donuts in her mini van while out of the house and OP is actually doing keto because he's too neet to afford a loaf of bread.

Just learn to deal with it OP, you'll get used to it.

>> No.18005952

>>18005796
Not too happy about the NEETphobia I see around here

>> No.18005979

>>18005952
Buy your own goddamn food, you are not entitled to have your aging parents house, clothe and feed you their entire life.

>> No.18005983

>>18005979
I didn't ask to be alive. Maybe I'll just die. Not my problem.

>> No.18005985

>>18005983
kay then, bye

>> No.18006230

>>18005792
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. You're living under her roof and eating stuff she buys. Ask politely for her to buy some bread and rice for you or something instead of being a little shit and whining on the internet like a passive aggressive beta cuck.

>> No.18006252

>>18005792
Meats and vegetables and dairy leaves you starving? Cry more Dorito bitch.

>> No.18006706

>>18005952
Being a neet is worse than anything

>> No.18006793

>>18005792
>essential
>carbohydrates
no such thing, just eat more protein and your body will convert the excess into glucose through gluconeogenesis

>> No.18006800

>>18005792
>You have to be 18 or older to post here

>> No.18006805

She is doing the right thing you fat fuck. After awhile your weak obese body will start taking all your fat reserves you subhuman trash.

>> No.18006847

>>18005792
>everyone believes OP is true
and by god, I'm choosing to believe it too.

>> No.18006864

>>18005979
maybe if they'd done a better job raising me earlier in their life they wouldn't have to take care of me now

>> No.18006923
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18006923

>>18005792
>>18006805
>>18005804
Tell her that consuming meat promotes inflammation by adding endotoxins to our diet and by saturated fats disrupting the gastrointestinal barrier allowing endotoxins to spill into the bloodstream. Tumor necrosis factor which is increased by endotoxins that activate TLR4 and TLR2 within the body directly contributes to neuronal cell death by inducing microglial inflammation through activation of kv1.3channels. This also promotes neuronal insulin resistance and contributes to hypothalamic neuroinflammation which is the root cause of all metabolic and neurodegenerative disorders.
There's metabolic ward experiments and feeding trials showing the direct consequences of consumption of a high fat, high protein meal on markers of endothelial function: increases in markers of peripheral inflammation, reduction in serotonin metabolism in the brain, and these can be extrapolated to disease pathology because we can observe the direct consequences of lipotoxicity and endotoxicity within the brain and reduction in cognitive function and metabolic homeostasis through understanding of the hypothalamic model of metabolic disorder
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28677618
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9036757
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2858203
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28045396
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19116375
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2853195
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4424797
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28323986
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6506390
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6814438
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211124716307331
Directly increasing neuronal insulin sensitivity increases metabolic homeostasis and BCAA catabolism. The failure of BCAA catabolism aggravates organ fibrosis, cancer growth, etc
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2728689
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5813603

In other words: Tell her she will die early. Tell her inuits die early due to meat.

>> No.18006953

>>18006923
baset

>> No.18006964

>>18005952
Reflect on the discomfort caused by someone giving you a simple solution to your problem. Allow it to change yourself for the better.

>> No.18007016

>>18005792
>essential carbohydrates
but ketonerds told me those don't exist

>> No.18007033

>>18005792
steel your moms credit card and get
https://www.amazon.com/Great-River-Organic-Milling-Specialty/dp/B0049YNXDY/ref=sr_1_24?crid=2TGDFMH96OTAS&keywords=corn+for+milling&qid=1655737508&s=grocery&sprefix=milling+co%2Cgrocery%2C92&sr=1-24

>> No.18007059

>>18006864
holy cope
you are responsible for your own issues anon. fix it

>> No.18007093

>>18007016
that is correct

>> No.18007140

>>18005792
tell her about the sneed oils

>> No.18007150

>>18005952
Being a NEET is one thing, not having some pocket money is something else.

>> No.18007162

>>18005792
>essential carbohydrates
pffffff hahahahahahahaha

>> No.18007176

>>18007140
this

>> No.18008201

Bake bread to torture her

>> No.18008205

I wish my mom was still alive I could have taught her how to cook.

>> No.18008211

>>18005792
Follow your moms lead and lose some weight fatty.

>> No.18008227

>>18008205
Haha get fucked fag

>> No.18008248

>>18006923
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10453437/#:~:text=A%20few%20studies%20have%20found,low%20in%20fruits%20and%20vegetables.

also men who eat more meat are at risk for testicular cancer as opposed to men who have a varied diet.

Though I have a question: we make most of our serotonin in our digestive system, and fat makes us happy.

>> No.18008311

>>18005792
>Everything she cooks and buys is keto now. I'm fucking dying of starvation here because I'm not getting the essential carbohydrates I need. Tonight I've been desperately looking in the cupboards for anything nourishing and there isn't shit. What the fuck am I going to do?
sounds like you have no other option than to report her to child protection services. i'd get off this site in the meantime, don't want to raise any red flags to the social workers.

>> No.18008388

>>18006923
Inuits die early because they eat western diets instead of their traditional meat based ones, and they drik alcohol like you wouldnt believe.
All your studies are meaningless when we know how we evolved to eat due to archeological evidance.

“Northern Hunter Gatherer carb intake less than 15% of total energy, varies racially”
>In this study, it was hypothesized that diets of modern hunter-gatherers vary in their carbohydrate content depending on ecoenvironments. Thus, using data of plant-to-animal subsistence ratios, we calculated the carbohydrate intake (percentage of the total energy) in 229 hunter-gatherer diets throughout the world and determined how differences in ecological environments altered carbohydrate intake. We found a wide range of carbohydrate intake (≈3%-50% of the total energy intake; median and mode, 16%-22% of the total energy). Hunter-gatherer diets were characterized by an identical carbohydrate intake (30%-35% of the total energy) over a wide range of latitude intervals (11°-40° north or south of the equator). However, with increasing latitude intervals from 41° to greater than 60°, carbohydrate intake decreased markedly from approximately equal to 20% to 9% or less of the total energy. Hunter-gatherers living in desert and tropical grasslands consumed the most carbohydrates (≈29%-34% of the total energy). Diets of hunter-gatherers living in northern areas (tundra and northern coniferous forest) contained a very low carbohydrate content (≤15% of the total energy). In conclusion, diets of hunter-gatherers showed substantial variation in their carbohydrate content. Independent of the local environment, however, the range of energy intake from carbohydrates in the diets of most hunter-gatherer societies was markedly different (lower) from the amounts currently recommended for healthy humans.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190514120029/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0271531711000911

>> No.18008389

>>18006923
But its nice to see how the shills fear the Pastebin.

“Hunter Gatherers got 68% of their calories from animal products, seasonally resp. more”
>In this review we have analyzed the 13 known quantitative dietary studies of HG and demonstrate that animal food actually provided the dominant (65%) energy source, while gathered plant foods comprised the remainder (35%). This data is consistent with a more recent, comprehensive review of the entire ethnographic data (n=229HG societies) that showed the mean subsistence dependence upon gathered plant foods was 32%, whereas it was 68% for animal foods. Other evidence, including isotopic analyses of Paleolithic hominid collagen tissue, reductions in hominid gut size, low activity levels of certain enzymes, and optimal foraging data all point toward a long history of meat-based diets in our species.
https://www.nature.com/articles/1601353
https://web.archive.org/web/20190514095546/https://www.nature.com/articles/1601353

For more: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EPyssWASiOuNurbc2FyibL-5ZK1wwPEPMuTbjzD-auw/edit?usp=sharing

>> No.18008395

>>18005952
bro being a neet is not an excuse to be a fully helpless child

I'm a neet and I do all the shopping

>> No.18008400

>my mom
Have you considered the fact that you must be 18 to post here?

>> No.18008595

>>18008205
kek

>> No.18009474

>>18005952
Sorry, I apologize for making fun of a fellow neet.
HAHAHAHA FUCKING POORFAG CANT AFFORD FOOD HAHAHAHA LITERALLY STARVING KILL YOURSELF YOU USELESS SACK OF SHIT HOW DO YOU LITERALLY STARVE.
Making fun of retarded poor people is definitely something people do here, so I don't want to hear you complaining again. Kill yourself poorfaggot.

>> No.18009485

>>18005792
Steal that cunt's credit card and buy what you need, king.

>> No.18010079
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18010079

>>18008388
>>18008248
>>18008389
I've already posted the studies regarding BCAA and insulin resistance. Let me post the highlights since you apparently can't read:
>BCAA catabolism is lost during the development and progression of multiple cancers
>BCAA catabolic enzyme expression predicts tumor aggressiveness and patient survival
>Tumors display increased BCAA content and enhanced mTORC1 activation
>Dietary BCAAs correlate with tumor burden in mice and cancer mortality in humans
>brain insulin controls BCAA metabolism in humans. Thus, brain insulin resistance could account at least in part for the elevated BCAA levels observed in the insulin-resistant state.
>increased circulating levels of BCAAs increase insulin-resistant obesity and T2DM, as well as the observations that these increases might predict future insulin resistance or T2DM
>a reduced BCAA diet promotes rapid fat mass loss without calorie restriction in obese mice.
>Selective reduction of dietary BCAAs also restores glucose tolerance and insulin sensitivity to obese mice, even as they continue to consume a high‐fat, high‐sugar diet.
>A low BCAA diet transiently induces FGF21 (fibroblast growth factor 21) and increases energy expenditure.
>dietary protein quality (i.e. the precise macronutrient composition of dietary protein) impact the effectiveness of weight-loss diets.
>a diet with reduced levels of branched-chain amino acids (BCAAs), which are associated with insulin resistance in both humans and rodents, modestly improves glucose tolerance and slows fat mass gain.
Now fuck off. All of this is mechanistic and has been proven over and over again. If you want to get Alzheimer's, then that's your choice. Just please keep your fucking mouth shut about things you know NOTHING about.

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>>18010079
>in obese mice, feeding them a unnatural diet for their species
>oh look, their metabolism doesnt work as intended, quick publish that humans shouldnt eat keto or meat!
Fck off, you retarded shilll. OUR speces has been living keto and on a meat heavy diet for hundreds of millenia, growing our brains on it due to surplice making us the global alpha predator while shrinking since we introduced grains, both in bain volume and bodily height.
Please be my guest and eat like would be suitable fo an obese mouse but shilling your retardation with Trek macros like youre some kind of IFLS mong off the future.

“Farming to blame for our shrinking size and brains“
>Looking at human fossil evidence for the past 200,000 years, Lahr looked at the size and structure of the bones and skulls found across Europe, Africa and Asia. What they discovered was that the largest Homo sapiens lived 20,000 to 30,000 years ago with an average weight between 176 and 188 pounds and a brain size of 1,500 cubic centimeters.They discovered that some 10,000 years ago however, size started getting smaller both in stature and in brain size. Within the last 10 years, the average human size has changed to a weight between 154 and 176 pounds and a brain size of 1,350 cubic centimeters. While large size remained static for close to 200,000 years, researchers believe the reduction in stature can be connected to a change from the hunter-gatherer way of life to that of agriculture which began some 9,000 years ago.
https://phys.org/news/2011-06-farming-blame-size-brains.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20190421104116/https://phys.org/news/2011-06-farming-blame-size-brains.html

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18010433

>>18005792
>What the fuck am I going to do?
Go outside.

>> No.18010480

>>18005952
based NEETchad stand up for our rights

we are people too!

>> No.18010482

>>18006864
unironically kys you waste of oxygen

>> No.18010552

>>18010079
Alzheimer's can be treated by high fat diet. Multiple clinical trials have shown improved cognition. The brain is insulin resistant in the demented and can only use ketone bodies. Also high protein is not keto. It can be higher protein than a standard diet but most of the literature is on a moderate amount of protein.

>> No.18010673

>>18006864
>wwwaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>> No.18010693

>>18005828
>Imagine voluntarily revealing that you can only eat what mommy buys
This. Your unfruitful searches in the cabinets is simply hunger. Relish the feeling as a good feeling.

>> No.18010787

>>18005792
>What the fuck am I going to do?

Stop being a pussy and limit your carb intake to less than 50g per day, you'll adapt and loose your appitite and cravings, you'll be sick for like 2 days when it starts working just make sure your put salt on everything and drink lots of water and it will pass quick.

If you do it successfully you get to eat bacon and eggs, cheesecake, pizza, steak, curry, brownies etc etc. all while loosing weight.

>> No.18012490

>>18006923

If anyone takes this seriously you will get the malnutrition you deserve

>> No.18012647

>>18012490
You tell him ketosister!

>> No.18013916

>>18006923
>Tell her inuits die early due to meat.
Inuits die early because they are a lost people living in lands which are no longer their own, living at the whim of their conquerors, history is over for them. inuits die of boredom and despair

>> No.18014079

>>18010480
The people who have 0 contribution to society. NEETs are not more valuable than my neighbor's cat.

>> No.18014090

>>18006793
This, I always feel more hungry the morning after I eat too many carbs

>> No.18014101

>>18005813
>legitimately telling people to eat sprouted grains

>> No.18014115

>>18012647
cringe

>> No.18014116

>>18014079
>muh contribution to society
Why are slaves always like this?

>> No.18014130

>>18014079
>The people who have 0 contribution to society.
You need to cool it with the racism

>> No.18014140

>>18005983
Good

>> No.18014151

>>18006923
God I hate vegans with a passion

>> No.18014282

>>18005983
based

>> No.18014528

>>18005792
>essential carbohydrates
Fake and gay. Your body makes its own glucose if it can't get it through sugars.

>> No.18015221

>>18005804
good, you deserve the pain. YWNBAW

>> No.18015341

Faggot jannies deleted my post, but this meme is why I'm on a high carb high sugar diet with plenty of soy, msg and SPAM. Jannies probably on faggy keto

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18015349

>>18015341
My entire family fell for this shit, they just don't eat carbs at all. Meanwhile I'm cooking cupcakes, breads, pastas, cakes, and adding liberal amounts of sugar to everything including meats

>> No.18015632

>>18005792
There are no essential carbohydrates, fatty. Try eating meat, fat, dairy, and vegetables for a while. There are a handful of essential vitamins and minerals in very low-carb vegetables. Eat vegetables and fatty meat if you're malnourished. The modern industrial grain-based diet is so deficient in essential vitamins and minerals that they have to add them into foods (wheat, rice, corn) so people don't die of weird definciencies.

>> No.18015684

>>18005952
bro if your a NEET the least you can do is help your mom with the shopping