Coffee time /ctg/

[Anonymous No.17923358]

Time for coffee edition. This thread is for all coffee related discussion and inquiries.

Pastebin(WIP):
https://pastebin.com/2WCB8DyH
Previous thread:
>>17884010

[Anonymous No.17923374]

>>17923358
piss through my melodrop

[Anonymous No.17923377]

Reviewbrah looking sharp these days.

[Anonymous No.17923399]

>>17923358
I can't drink coffee coz gerd

[Anonymous No.17923419]

>>17923399
kick rocks amigo

[Anonymous No.17923431]

>>17923419
Why listen kid rock, lol

[Anonymous No.17923436]

The heat of the mug brews the coffee

[Anonymous No.17923448]

>>17923358
Back off, I don’t need you to tell me how fucking good my music is okay? I’m the one who makes it. I know how good it is. When y’all go to the studio, you make shit! I make the gourmet quality stuff because when I listen to it, I like to hear it. But you know what’s on my mind right now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2fNeEFda7k

[Anonymous No.17923496]

Spanish roast

[Anonymous No.17923501]

>>17923448
Listen son ill tell you anything I want and you'll like it

[Anonymous No.17923580]

Italian roast

[Anonymous No.17923608]

>>17923496
Actually single origin light roast espresso is a meme and you should be drinking robusta heavy blends roasted to 495f as the true espresso connoisseurs do.

[Anonymous No.17923858]

Dark roasts are comfy and I'm tired of pretending they're not

[Anonymous No.17923865]

Just ordered a flair signature, I'm very excited. I haven't bought new coffee equipment In years. Speaking of which, I've never cleaned out my grinder(baratza encore) any tips for cleaning it?

[Anonymous No.17923897]

Ordered a sampler and a new roaster off sweet marias and they forgot to ship the fucking roaster. Reeeee.

[Anonymous No.17924021]

Chicken roast

[Anonymous No.17924039]

>>17923858
i don't know why people haven't started comparing light roasts to india pale ales, pair it with a soy face and you're guaranteed to groom all of /ck/ into liking dark roast.

[Anonymous No.17924101]

Yesterday I had my coffee steeped with some used banana bread chai tea and some milk plus brown sugar mixed in

[Anonymous No.17924330]

>>17924101
That sounds foul but thank you for keeping us updated

[Anonymous No.17924463]

https://youtu.be/ECIgnBOU_X4
Is coffee steak good (for you)?

[Anonymous No.17924507]

Im looking for an espresso machine but unfortunately it just seems like what I am after doesnt really exist in the price bracket I looked at.

Essentially I wanted a good looking machine, 58mm portafilter, and controllable temperature. Adjustable pressure and pre infusion would be a benefit. Feels like there are some good machines for around £500 but all of them lack at least one of the elements. The Lelit Anna/Grace looks nice, has a temp control (although it looks questionable in some of the clips Ive seen) but has a 57mm portafilter. The Gaggia Classic and Rancilio seem to be classic machines but no temp control and dont look great.

Theres quite a void between £500 and £1000. At the £1000 mark it starts to become possible to get machines with all those features. Im just not sure if its really worth spending over £1000 on a machine and how much benefit I get for it being double the cost of some other decent machines.

[Anonymous No.17924523]

>>17924507
You could put a PID in a Gaggia for fairly cheap
>inb4 le meme 58

[Anonymous No.17924574]

>>17924507
Get to work.
https://github.com/Zer0-bit/gaggiuino

[Anonymous No.17924627]

>>17924039
Used to dislike IPAs in principle, but the constant wojak-spamming thread shitters actually convinced me to try them out of spite

[Anonymous No.17924746]

>>17924523
>>17924574
I think that might be the route I go down. Its a shame the Gaggia or the Silvia arent the most attractive machines.

[Anonymous No.17924763]

been to 4 different dutch brothers coffee joints
they have really good coffee
each location:
>did you want to tip it or skip it?
fuck you
i'm in your drive thru
just gimme my fucken coffee

[Anonymous No.17925249]

>>17924763
just skip it? How is this a big deal.

[Anonymous No.17925262]

for me, it's mcdonalds coffee

[Anonymous No.17925276]

One time I drank some Sumatra blend from a Sheetz and it tasted like salty coins and skunk spray and I couldn't get the taste out of my mouth for a full 24 hours after drinking 1/4 of the cup

[Anonymous No.17925330]

Getting a new manual grinder soon.

[Anonymous No.17925331]

>>17925330
What will you think of it?

[Anonymous No.17925336]

>>17925276
I really disliked the sumatra I got once and am scared of trying it from others

[Anonymous No.17925339]

i like really weakly brewed light roast coffee and i'm tired of having to hide it
it's like coffee tea kinda

[Anonymous No.17925947]

>>17924763
>tipping
never ever. i dont care if the waiters bend down to suck my cock im not giving a tip.
if you set the price as $5 im paying $5 no more no less, and no tip shouldn't mean "well i get to spit in your coffee now because i dont get paid enough and i have to rely on cucks tipping me to make ends meet" thats just plain old bullying "give me extra or ill break your knees" just pay people more ffs, $25 an hour and outright ban tipping(you can have a tip jar at the front. in my country people just use this tip jar to empty their spare change into if they dont want to carry around coins or whatever)

its like americans have stockholm syndrome for their shitty work culture.
like they think everywhere else in the world has it worse than they do so they should be thanking their boss to be able to be slightly above the poverty line. licking the bosses boots clean for a $1 raise, bending over backwards to get tips like a street performer begging for money.
its fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.17925952]

>>17925330
you did get a rok didnt you anon?

[Anonymous No.17926741]

>>17923358
Victory coffee.

[Anonymous No.17926919]

Why can't I buy whole bean folgers?

[Anonymous No.17926931]

>>17926919
https://www.coffeeforless.com/collections/folgers-coffee-beans/products/folgers-original-whole-bean-coffee-2-75lb-bag-past-peak
g-guys??

[Anonymous No.17926946]

>>17926741
>it's not a megapint

[Anonymous No.17927328]

>>17923436
The caffeine in the beans activates the almonds

[Anonymous No.17927578]

>>17924507
Didn’t read that wall of cope but get a flair+bellend+kingrinder and you’re set for life

[Anonymous No.17927832]

>>17923358
I like the way my pp feels when I rest my hot cuppa on it

[Anonymous No.17927845]

>>17923580
Based and Auschwitz pilled

[Anonymous No.17927983]

this shit ain't got no business bein' so good

[Anonymous No.17928003]

why does the cheapest brand coffee taste and smell like burnt popcorn

[Anonymous No.17928105]

/ctg/ went into a tailspin as soon as a $40grindernon decided to write the pastebin.

[Anonymous No.17928986]

À

[Anonymous No.17929029]

What ever happened to the Aldi brand Colombian coffee? It used to be so rich and nutty, and now it seems way more harsh.

[Anonymous No.17929043]

>>17927578
I already have a flair + 1zpresso but its a chore to use

[Anonymous No.17929064]

Weird, it's almost as if I predicted that normalfags would find using the Flair to be tedious. But no, the Flair sperg had to argue with a strawman for 24 hours straight when I dared to propose that theory. Now we have another example of someone complaining about the Flair being a chore.

[Anonymous No.17929065]

>>17924763
A coffee shop near me hands you the card reader in the drive through, and after you put in your card it asks for a tip and for you to fill out a fucking survey.
What's funnier is I assumed it's a chain but I looked it up and it's a local coffee shop. Don't know why they tryhard like that.

[Anonymous No.17929085]

>>17929064
Is he complaining about the quality of espresso out of the flair, or that he can't find a single fucking better alternative for under £1000(or immediately voiding the warranty and wiring in a microprocessor and series of relays into a £500 gaggia)

[Anonymous No.17929098]

>>17929085
>its a chore to use
It sounds to me like he is complaining that it is a chore to use.

[Anonymous No.17929181]

>>17929098
And somehow infinitely less of a chore than getting ready and driving to a decent cafe. Pic related. Super light columbian in a hand grinder. 20sec 7 bar shot.

[Anonymous No.17929204]

>>17929181
And using an automatic is infinitely less of a chore than using a lever

[Anonymous No.17929214]

>>17929204
Which one is easier to keep clean though???

[Anonymous No.17929219]

>>17929214
The automatic probably

[Anonymous No.17929252]

>>17929204
Automatic what? 98% of that chore was grinding, the other 2% was spritzing and gently laying paper filters. Homie just needs to buy a df64 or niche instead of wasting his money on an "automatic" gaggia.
> Super light columbian
I haven't had this in a while and its the first time I've roasted and pulled it on the 58. So fucking good. Clean, floral, strawberry sweet with a slick finish. Not all that textural because of the roast, but the kinu brings a little body. Its going to be fantastic on the big flat wug.

[Anonymous No.17929404]

[Anonymous No.17929415]

>>17923358
>>17929404
Is this a good espresso machine? I've never had an espresso machine but I have an oppourtunity to get one of these half price so I'm thinking about it

[Anonymous No.17929458]

>>17929415
no

[Anonymous No.17929460]

i got gifted this today and i kind of hate it? idk why i would go through so much hassle when my trusty french press is always at the ready and can make more than a measly cup or two per brew. i'm grateful it was given to me but it's such a useless nothing object

[Anonymous No.17929474]

>>17929460
>more than a measly cup or two per brew
based retard

[Anonymous No.17929489]

>>17929474
you cant be this stupid

[Anonymous No.17929518]

>>17929458
y?

[Anonymous No.17929546]

>>17929518
unironically youll either get on the treadmill of continuously always buying trash appliances that barely work for their intended purpose or youll make shitty espresso and think thats just what espresso is.

save your money buy a decent machine

[Anonymous No.17929570]

>>17929546
thanks senpai

[Anonymous No.17929616]

>>17929460
But thats a patented breville automatic. That should be as comfy and convenient as it gets.

[Anonymous No.17929656]

>>17929616
Cope

[Anonymous No.17929688]

Is pouring hot/boiling water into a bialetti moka a myth? Does it really make better coffee?

[Anonymous No.17929692]

>>17929656
>idk why i would go through so much hassle

[Anonymous No.17929695]

>>17923358
I've been strictly aeropress the past couple years. Anything else I should try besides French press?

[Anonymous No.17929706]

>>17929692
And you think that supports your lever how, exactly? Do you think that a retard like him is somehow not going to find dealing with a lever to be even more of a hassle? Thanks for proving me right again.

[Anonymous No.17929748]

>>17929706
He would have difficulty with any machine. Like you who goes around recommending superautomatic gaggias.
https://youtu.be/3fcC57GqIfY

[Anonymous No.17929809]

>>17925336
they are all shit

[Anonymous No.17929817]

>>17929748
When did I recommend a Gaggia?

[Anonymous No.17929829]

>>17929748
>He would have difficulty with any machine.
So someone who has difficulty with the easiest style of machine to use should in fact go buy the most finicky style of machine? Why exactly?

[Anonymous No.17929857]

>>17929817
>>17929829
>Is he complaining about the quality of espresso out of the flair, or that he can't find a single fucking better alternative for under £1000
>sounds to me like he is complaining that it is a chore to use.
>using an automatic is infinitely less of a chore than using a lever
Sounds like you should buy the cheapest used automatic you can(super or semi, doesn't matter) and it solves every workflow problem.

[Anonymous No.17929871]

>>17929857
So you think that your lever has better workflow than a Slayer?

[Anonymous No.17929874]

10:44 EST coffee time who's with me

[Anonymous No.17929880]

>>17929857
You're not even attempting to make an argument and I find it really funny

[Anonymous No.17929886]

>>17929829
>>17929706
idk where you retards got difficulty from my post. i just said it's a hassle, which it definitely is compared to a french press. not to mention way more shit to clean up at the end of the day

[Anonymous No.17929889]

>>17929886
Go back to your room son the adults are talking

[Anonymous No.17929896]

>>17929889
>Go back to your room son the adults are talking

[Anonymous No.17929919]

>>17929896
just say you dont know anything and move on

[Anonymous No.17929926]

>>17929871
Paddle "feedback" vs direct pressure. Line pressure trickle flow via needle valves vs slow full saturation of a flooded brewhead. Flair58 fully heat soaks much quicker and runs at 95w max, not 1600w. Sports cars are real nice to drive, but crotch rockets are real quick and real fucking cheap. I've only got to play around with a slayer a few times though. Just got shipping notification on the wug. Should be here tomorrow unless ups fucks up an entire plane.

[Anonymous No.17929932]

>Leverfags unironically think their toy is better than professional equipment
Why did I expect anything different from the same retard who shills the melopiss

[Anonymous No.17929969]

>man without lever/manual machine, semiautomatic machine, or superautomatic machine has strongly held opinions on espresso hardware
Just buy an automatic they're easy to clean.

[Anonymous No.17929985]

>>17929969
>has strongly held opinions on espresso hardware
What strong opinions have I posted regarding espresso hardware? All that I have ever done is tell you to stop trying to convince these retards to waste their money on levers since they're just going to get frustrated by them. You just cannot accept that for some reason, even though I've been proven right several times.

[Anonymous No.17930013]

>>17929985
>What strong opinions have I posted regarding espresso hardware?
>noooooooooooooo manual espresso is a meme don't buy it I have zero experience with them but they're frustrating :/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QapFgJxQGF8

[Anonymous No.17930037]

>>17930013
So the multiple people complaining across several threads about them being a hassle to use doesn't count because reasons?

[Anonymous No.17930059]

>>17930037
Its all the same schizo.

[Anonymous No.17930185]

OG flair workflow is just dogshit and backflushing an automatic machine isn’t hard. You are the schizo here.

[Anonymous No.17930189]

>>17929219
wrong.

[Anonymous No.17930209]

>>17929688
yes i have done tests of my own and boiling the water first does make it taste better. also its actually faster. you can boil the water while you are grinding your beans.
well maybe if you have induction and have an induction compatible moka because induction boils water extremely fast and has very little wasted energy.
but on gas (which is preferable because of the literal infinite amount of temp control) boiling water from cold will take a long time and it can heat up your coffee/start extraction before you have reached optimal temp/pressure which obviously affects the flavor.

[Anonymous No.17930210]

What manual has the best workflow?

[Anonymous No.17930220]

>>17929695
moka

[Anonymous No.17930257]

>>17930210
Aeropress

[Anonymous No.17930280]

>>17930257
No plastic please

[Anonymous No.17930295]

>>17930210
olympia cremina

[Anonymous No.17930302]

>>17930185
>OG flair workflow is just dogshit
I mean, I dealt with it for years. Wasn't too bad. Boil water, pour water, pour water again, pull espresso. You've heard people meme about it. Every gripe I had with the og workflow was entirely eliminated with the 58. UPS just updated, delivery on monday.
>>17930210
nomad

[Anonymous No.17930303]

>>17930280
Why are you scared of a little plastic? A little plastic never hurt anyone. And it allowed me to win 3rd place in the WBrC

[Anonymous No.17931165]

>>17923358
if you could share a cup with anyone or whoever from any movie scene, where coffee is being partook.

[Anonymous No.17931303]

>>17923358
JAVA

[Anonymous No.17931309]

>>17923358
>>17931303
It's gonna rain...

[Anonymous No.17931382]

>>17931165
my dinner with andre 1:33:59.

[Anonymous No.17931425]

im looking to buy some beans and it says if you are planning on using them for espresso to age them for 3-4 weeks. how do you age them? do you just not touch the bag for a month?

[Anonymous No.17931668]

>>17931425
3-4 weeks is a bit excessive, one week should be fine. And yes, just don't open the bag

[Anonymous No.17931711]

>>17931668
thanks :)
i didnt end up getting it and got some old faithful seasonal mix.(its like colombian/brazilian/ethiopian/guatemalan)
and some specialty instant coffee and panela and some other stuff.
still got some yirgacheffe to work through, i didnt like this roast this time(i have had this same product from this same farm a few months ago and i did like it) the beans smelled like cigarette ash and the final brew had a very earthy taste, it reminded me of highschool. add a bit of sugar and it mellows it out but still, not a great feeling waking up and grinding coffee beans that make the kitchen smell like you just tipped out a full ashtray.

[Anonymous No.17931831]

>buy nice or buy twice
I've got a shitty coffee filter, would like to buy a new one. Right now I just do cold brew coffee but I would like to branch out to espresso in the future.
What grinder should I get? Should I get an espresso grinder now or get 2 grinders (1 now and an espresso grinder in the future)

[Anonymous No.17931881]

>>17931831
Arco 2 in 1.

[Anonymous No.17932728]

Is the Comandante C40 irrelevant in 2022? Have the chinks surpassed it?

[Anonymous No.17933017]

While you were sipping on your pathetic light roast tea coffee, I was enjoying a delicious full-bodied, velvety SUMATRAN. I now feel refreshed, my palate is satisfied, and I am ready to conquer the day. What have you accomplished today?

[Anonymous No.17933023]

>>17932728
Stepped grinders haven't been relevant for a long time

[Anonymous No.17933124]

>>17933023
There's no reason for a good grinder to have more than 30 steps.

[Anonymous No.17933374]

Brim grinder- 30 bucks, supposed to be 100. Run it as a single dose and let the burrs spin a few seconds extra to keep it clean. So far so good.

[Anonymous No.17933534]

>pre-ground coffee blends (vacuum-sealed)
>from Walmart
Are any of these actually good or?

[Anonymous No.17933585]

*cums*

[Anonymous No.17933713]

>>17931382
based conversationalist

[Anonymous No.17934058]

The Flair 58 might solve a lot of problems, but I think a lot of people are pairing the lower models with hand grinders and its 10+ minutes for 1 espresso. If you want any milk based drinks then you either spend more money, or go without it. If you are really budget constrained, its fine.

There are plenty of alternatives under £1000, and for incremental jumps you can get incremental improvements. Want a bigger portafilter than the £200 Signature - buy a Flair Pro 2 for £280. Want bigger again? Buy a Gaggia Classic for £450. Want a more powerful steam boiler? Buy the Rancilio Silvia. Want a pre installed PID then buy a Lelit Victoria for £750. The Flair definitely isnt the best thing under £1000.

[Anonymous No.17934207]

>>17934058
What about if you want pressure profiling?

[Anonymous No.17934629]

>>17933534
no

[Anonymous No.17935024]

>>17933534
Biggest mistake you can do is buying pre-ground coffee.

[Anonymous No.17935060]

>>17934207
Then you quit being a poorfag and buy a Decent

[Anonymous No.17935143]

Does coffee get processed by the body quicker if you drink it all at once? e.g over 5mins vs 30mins

[Anonymous No.17935465]

>>17935143
Who cares?

[Anonymous No.17935471]

>>17935143
Possibly...

[Anonymous No.17935473]

>>17935471
Why didn't he cum himself after drinking that hot brew, cold bloom?

[Anonymous No.17935485]

>>17935471
I like how this was equal parts plot relevant and Tealc just being weird again.

[Anonymous No.17935805]

>>17935060
So is the flair58 the best profiling machine under $3500?

[Anonymous No.17936134]

ITS UP
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l_h2D8fJTU

[Anonymous No.17936331]

Why.

[Anonymous No.17936544]

>>17936331
They know the /ctg/ schizos will consoom anything

[Anonymous No.17936699]

Is Japanese iced coffee a meme?

[Anonymous No.17936714]

>>17936544
I do love buying stupid garbage.

[Anonymous No.17936742]

okay but memes and viral marketing aside what do I buy to get into pour over coffee instead of french pressing

[Anonymous No.17936789]

>>17924627
I used to hate IPAs on principle, but then after trying a few I now hate them because I simply do not like them at all.

[Anonymous No.17936935]

I like coffee :)

[Anonymous No.17936937]

>>17936742
V60
V60 filters
Temperature control electric kettle and suitable burr grinder if you don't already have them

[Anonymous No.17937089]

>>17936935
gween tea

[Anonymous No.17937249]

>>17936937
dont you just make coffee with boiling water

[Anonymous No.17937322]

>>17937089
cawfee

[Anonymous No.17937330]

DID SOMEONE SAY COFFEE?

[Anonymous No.17937493]

>>17937330
wrong board
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.17937528]

>>17937493
>he says in the same thread as gween tea and cawfee
Anime website btw.

[Anonymous No.17937637]

>>17936742
Melodrip

[Anonymous No.17937656]

>>17935805
If you shift the goalposts to exactly fit the Flair and nothing else then it can be the best thing in whatever category you want. You already know that you can install aftermarket parts to allow for pressure profiling in cheap entry level machines like the Silvia and Gaggia Classic, you don't need me to tell you that. You're just being a disingenuous faggot because it's the only thing you can do really in your situation.

[Anonymous No.17937661]

>>17937330
>using that same dogshit meme hand grinder
what is it with nips and this thing?
also she over swirled it clearly.

[Anonymous No.17937692]

Anyone got that Google drive folder full of coffee related books?

[Anonymous No.17937849]

>>17937692
I don't have time to find it right now, but the pastebin has a link to get the Hoffman book.

[Anonymous No.17938139]

>>17923358
Is there such a thing a good quality instant coffee? Every single one I've tasted has been the same tasteless garbage.

[Anonymous No.17938161]

>>17938139
You can buy specialty instant but it's exorbitantly expensive and still not as good as fresh

[Anonymous No.17938228]

>>17924039
>i don't know why people haven't started comparing light roasts to india pale ales
Because not all of us are faggots like you.

[Anonymous No.17938256]

Just stopping in to say I fucking love coffee. I just have one cup a day but it's one of the greatest pleasures in my life. Fuck yes

[Anonymous No.17938294]

>drink coffee
>piss
>piss smells like coffee
thank you coffee for making my piss smell nice

[Anonymous No.17938307]

>>17938139
Get wolverine's instant coffee or maybe it was kcups lol

[Anonymous No.17938468]

Parents gifted me this: looked it up and it’s worth around 1k. It’s at least 6 years sold but very lightly used since it has been sitting in my parents basement for the last 3+ years completely unused.
I’m pretty clueless about what makes a good/bad espresso, is there any maintenance or skill required for a machine like this or is it as simple as buying good beans and selecting the appropriate grind setting?

[Anonymous No.17938799]

>>17937656
>noooooo just buy this dimmer i swear its the same as pressure profiling you just gotta surf until you pull good spro
Remind me what machine do you use?

[Anonymous No.17938803]

>>17937692
I'd post it but I don't want pastebinanon blowing up my shit.

[Anonymous No.17938810]

>>17938799
We have had this exact conversation before where me and everyone else made fun of you for referring to your lever as a machine and you went on a spergout and started linking to the wikipedia page for machine or whatever trying to prove that a lever is actually a simple machine. Then we made fun of you even more by posting pictures of ramps and calling them machines. It was a good time.

[Anonymous No.17938841]

>>17938810
None of that cope answered the question.

[Anonymous No.17938851]

>>17938841
My favorite simple machine, the Melodrip

[Anonymous No.17938867]

>and you went on a spergout

[Anonymous No.17938884]

>>17931309
>>17938468
Give it a go

[Anonymous No.17938973]

New gearqueer shit just dropped.
https://youtu.be/4l_h2D8fJTU
Why don't you have a no-bypass brewer yet? It's the logical conclusion of pourover.

[Anonymous No.17938985]

>>17938973
I can't wait to melodrip my tricolate

[Anonymous No.17939237]

>>17938161
this. i just bought 250g of specialty instant coffee and it cost me $100, meanwhile i could buy like almost 6kg of my regular coffee beans for that same price.
i live with other people and we have paper thin walls so if my fucked up sleep schedule means i wake up at midnight and everyone is asleep the loudest i can get is turning the kettle on so i can't freshly grind any coffee meaning i have to grind extra while im awake incase in need it later which obviously sucks, so i bought a bunch of specialty instant that will only be used in this specific scenario(yes i know that everything i just said is very autistic)

[Anonymous No.17939277]

>>17938803
do it pussy

[Anonymous No.17939280]

>>17938468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeB02Fb3ACs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RerJ7TpQQU
https://www.delonghi.com/en-us/manuals/magnifica-xs-automatic-espresso-machine-cappuccino-maker-ecam22110b/p/ECAM22110B

[Anonymous No.17940062]

>>17939237
>250g of specialty instant coffee and it cost me $100
What the fuck

[Anonymous No.17940070]

>>17940062
Well if you think about it, instant is actually more coffee per coffee than straight beans since you only use like 2-3 grams of instant per cum versus 15g per 250mL of cum from beans so 250g of instant is equal to like 1500g of beans. So it's still retardedly expensive but like 6x less cum than you would think.

[Anonymous No.17940089]

>>17939237
you pathetic fucking autistic ocd faggot

[Anonymous No.17940103]

>>17939237
Just get a quieter grinder. Or just tell your roommates to quit being whiny faggots. People who get woken up by the slightest noise are annoying as fuck. I slept through a tropical storm dropping a tree on my front porch once, while I was sleeping on the couch in my living room. Only fags get woken up by a coffee grinder gently crunching away in another room.

[Anonymous No.17940141]

>>17935485
Indeed.

[Anonymous No.17940297]

I'm a guy who can appreciate good coffee and enjoys pre-roast/ground coffee. Would it be worth getting hold of a cheaper but still decent grinder like the aerogrind? Spoonfeed my life choices to me.

[Anonymous No.17940312]

>>17940070
Anon why are you talking about cum?

[Anonymous No.17940332]

>>17935805
Might well be.

If you're happy to forego other features and have a longer workflow because you value pressure profiling, the Flair is great.

But then the best profiling machine under $3500 doesn't even have accurate temperature control

[Anonymous No.17940585]

>>17940332
What longer workflow? I wake up to a preheated machine, turn on my external pid boiler and I'm locking in a standard portafilter and pulling within like 4 minutes.

[Anonymous No.17940593]

>>17940103
>>17940089
>>17940062
seethe, cope, dilate.

[Anonymous No.17940600]

oh right, i forgot to mention its $100aud not $100usd

[Anonymous No.17940670]

>>17940600
Your economy has been in shambles for decades. I do enjoy ordering shit from Pullman at a 30% discount though, so keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.17940698]

>>17926741
Nakadashi

[Anonymous No.17940769]

>work as a bartender a few years ago
>run out of decaffeinated coffee
>put the regular coffee in the decaffeinated coffee jar
>somebody asks for caffeine free coffee
>give them the regular
>forget to order decaffeinated coffee for weeks
>some faggot comes to me arguing his mother isnt feeling well
>asks me if im sure i gave her non-caffeine coffee
>show him the jar, clearly says "non-caffeine"
>tell him to fuck off
>next week some old guy passed out on the bistro
>get super worried i might have had something to do with it
>turns out its a heat stroke
>keep giving them regular coffee for weeks

not my problem you old pussies cant handle it.

[Anonymous No.17940778]

>housemate's friend stays for a few days
>finds my hand grinder and beans
>tightens grind adjustment as much as possible
>puts beans in the grind catch
At no point did he ask anyone for help,
nor did he ever tell anyone the fact that he did this.

[Anonymous No.17940817]

>>17940769
also
>buy 125grams of the cheapest possible coffee from the store
>mix it in the 1KG premium coffee bag
>1 coffee is ~7grams
>pocket transfer the money from 17 coffees
>go home with €60 extra
>do this every single day

[Anonymous No.17940832]

coffee? more like icky stinky poop juice

[Anonymous No.17940835]

>>17940817
You just pocketed money? Assuming you're working in a store, wouldn't your boss just think you are skimming cash? Why even buy the cheap stuff and mix it?

[Anonymous No.17940876]

>>17940835
I was working in a huge bar with a huge bistro out in the front. The boss had multiple of those throughout the country, 4 of them were in the city. So he wasn't really around to look at our hands and pockets. We were 4 bartenders at any given time too.

>Why even buy the cheap stuff and mix it?
Because if you just skim cash it's basically stealing, and at the end of the week there will be money/product missing during inventory.
In order to avoid that, you mix a little bit of the trash coffee(which you bought yourself)with a lot of the nice expensive one, you pocket the money worth of the cheap coffee.
People do not feel any difference in taste, there is no cash nor product missing. And since we sold hundreds of coffees a day, there was almost no way to get caught.

Get it? It's not stealing, you just sell a little bit of your own coffee.

[Anonymous No.17940878]

>>17940670
>shambles
eh?

[Anonymous No.17940881]

>>17940876
Highly based, though I reckon you could have gotten away with putting a bit more cheap coffee in.

[Anonymous No.17940889]

>>17940778
based schizo

[Anonymous No.17940906]

>>17940881
>you could have gotten away with putting a bit more cheap coffee in.
Sometimes I did. However there were a shit ton of customers and a lot of work to be done so I didn't always have enough time to sneak more of it .

Occasionally there would be a party with some DJ at night, thats when the big money was because we did the same with alcohol.
Once people get drunk/high on whatever they were snorting, I was opening my cheap ass vodka and whiskey bottles.

Bartenders ALWAYS do this kind of shit whenever they can.

[Anonymous No.17940976]

>>17938973
>that slow ass pour speed
I'd like to have my coffee when I wake up in the morning, not when I take my lunch break.

[Anonymous No.17941004]

>>17940906
Why are SEAmonkeys like this.

[Anonymous No.17941101]

>>17940976
Sounds like the cuptismo is the zero bypass brewer for you.https://youtu.be/ws_zXmluldo

[Anonymous No.17941106]

>>17941004
No idea, i'm Austrian

[Anonymous No.17941642]

Covfefe bros I need some espresso bean recommendations.

[Anonymous No.17941658]

>>17940585
So you have to heat water and the machine individually? That's an additional step. You've had to buy an external boiler. If you want a milk based drink, better go out and buy something else that will require heating separately.

As said previously, I think the Flairs are good machines and the 58 does address a lot of the issues that arise from the lower models. If you exclusively want espresso, happy to use a lever machine and don't mind the extra step of filling with water every time, the 58 seems like a good choice.

[Anonymous No.17941737]

>>17941642
rwanda medium roast

[Anonymous No.17941950]

>>17941658
>You've had to buy an external boiler.
Who doesn't have a kettle?
> filling with water every time
Argos has a .6L boiler. I'd be filling that up way more often than a stagg. Kind of the only reason I didn't hop on the first batch.

[Anonymous No.17942304]

>>17941642
FRENCH roast

[Anonymous No.17942330]

>diet consists of nothing but coffee, jerky, and veggie packs from the clearance aisle

[Anonymous No.17942503]

>>17942330
Let me guess, you need more?

[Anonymous No.17942547]

>>17938973
I maybe would buy a metal version of one of those but I just know the glass is going to crack pretty fast either due to user error or just dealing with heat then cold over and over.

[Anonymous No.17942588]

what do you call a machine that has a grinder, makes how water, and forces that water through the ground up beans? i'm looking for the cheapest no-frills version of that i can, but every time i look it up its like it is $1000 with 20 kinds of detachable dildos and frothers and other stupid shit

[Anonymous No.17942598]

>>17942330
cut the veggies and start shitting diamonds

[Anonymous No.17942634]

>>17942588
is the machine having a grinder built into it a deal breaker?

[Anonymous No.17942639]

>>17942634
no actually that'd be perfect

[Anonymous No.17942645]

>>17942634
found a used one with those features for $89
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092VVJPCC
automatic too

[Anonymous No.17942648]

>>17942645
thanks that looks good

[Anonymous No.17942654]

>>17942588
Espresso isn't for you maybe get a different hobby

[Anonymous No.17942664]

>>17942654
being precious about it is your prerogative i'm just tired of instant

[Anonymous No.17942677]

>>17942645
new ones go for $150
https://www.amazon.com/Automatic-Machine-Programmable-Capacity-Aluminum/dp/B09LCSNP9C
if you get it be sure to post a review I'm interested in hearing how it works for you

[Anonymous No.17942695]

>>17942588
Superautomatic or bean to cup. There are also things like the gevi 2 in 1 for automated pourovers at home. Here's a world champion soyface look at it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhhzDXxhSsQ

[Anonymous No.17942814]

>>17942664
If you're not willing to invest any money or put any effort in to learning then you're going to have a bad time

[Anonymous No.17942870]

>>17942664
All you have to do is buy a french press, decent whole coffee beans (roast level depends on your preference) and a burr grinder. The rest is up to your amount of effort in producing a decent cup of coffee.

[Anonymous No.17942914]

>>17942695
>airfryer in background
heh

[Anonymous No.17943449]

My only problem is a decent grinder is fucking expensive, I'd like to get into coffee without spending a ton.
If you want to drink something like tea, it's a couple bucks for a cup and maybe another $5-10 for a Gaiwan if you're feeling really fancy.

[Anonymous No.17943531]

>>17943449
just get the clone of a chinese clone of an italian grinder

[Anonymous No.17943559]

>>17942645
>24h programmable automatic start function
You could just hit the button and wait the 5-8 minutes to get your coffee, doing the rest of your morning routine in the mean time.

[Anonymous No.17943575]

>>17943559
yeah you could or set it up to make a cup for you around the time your alarm clock goes off

[Anonymous No.17943586]

>>17943575
Wait you have to set it up? That's an additional step.

[Anonymous No.17943839]

>>17943586
nah just tell your bitch to do it for you

[Anonymous No.17943978]

Robert Timms , soy milk, one sugar.

[Anonymous No.17943992]

>>17943449
Get a kingrinder and an aeropress.
>If you want to drink something like tea
Why would you want to do that?

[Anonymous No.17944263]

>>17943992
The one with real steel burrs?

[Anonymous No.17944371]

My regular coffee places upped their prices +$2/lb and now I don't feel like buying it anymore.

I've never bought large bags of roasted coffee because I could never finish a 3lb bag before it goes stale after opening even with an airtight container, does green coffee last longer?

Where can I buy wholesale green coffee so I can roast it myself?
All I've found are shitty coffee roasters who sell green coffee for a higher price than their roasted products because they're scumbags.

[Anonymous No.17944408]

>>17944371
>does green coffee last longer?
Yes
>Where can I buy wholesale green coffee so I can roast it myself?
https://www.sweetmarias.com/green-coffee.html
https://www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com/index.php?board=11.0

[Anonymous No.17944415]

>>17944371
>$2/lb
>$2
how fucking poor are you jesus christ

[Anonymous No.17944433]

>>17944415
poor enough, i usually buy coffee at $7/lb but no more

>>17944408
those coffees all start at $10/lb for unprocessed coffee and that doesn't even cover shipping, which is 50% the price of a 5lb bag, nevermind

[Anonymous No.17944446]

>>17944433
Bro how were you planning on roasting these beans?

[Anonymous No.17944451]

>>17944433
You can get 20lbs of any of these for ~100 shipped.
https://www.sweetmarias.com/brazil-fazenda-alta-vista-7171.html
https://www.sweetmarias.com/india-monsoon-malabar-aa-7140.html
https://www.sweetmarias.com/brazil-pulp-natural-fazenda-ip-7174.html
> 0 - 20 lb = $8.99
>21 - 40 lb = $14.99
>41 - 60 lb = $21.99

[Anonymous No.17944951]

>>17932728
It sure is useless for Espresso. /ctg/ told me too but I didn't listen :')

[Anonymous No.17945266]

>>17923358
Coffee time x4

[Anonymous No.17945864]

coof

[Anonymous No.17945895]

someone pls shill me an electric kettle
i learned today that nat gas has 3x'd this year and my stove is gas and i drink tea 3x per day
a few years back i looked hard but everything had plastics in it
i'd like to find something all stainless or glass for parts that contact the boiling water
if you give a recc, post your favorite animal and i'll reply with a webm of that animal (i have >500 animal webms)
>t., tea drinking /an/on

[Anonymous No.17945952]

>>17945895
got antsy and bought this:
>Cuisinart CPK-17 PerfecTemp 1.7-Liter Cordless Electric Kettle, Stainless Steel
every decent kettle i could find had some plastic in contact with the water and was made in china, i could look for years before finding one that had no plastic and made elsewhere so just went with it

[Anonymous No.17946011]

>>17945952
Its always interesting when they won't tell you what grade of stainless they're using.

[Anonymous No.17946031]

cawfee

[Anonymous No.17946248]

>>17923358
What's the best all-in-ine coffee grinder and maker?

[Anonymous No.17946261]

Just got my flair and made my first espresso. Didn't turn out great, but it was fun. I didn't plan ahead and buy beans tho, so now I'm out baka

[Anonymous No.17946268]

>be Americano
>get shot

like pottery

[Anonymous No.17946694]

>>17946248
>>17942677

[Anonymous No.17946821]

>>17946268
Underage b&

[Anonymous No.17946894]

>>17946821
What's almost interesting is how I feel that used to be a big "problem" like a decade or more ago, but I bet it very rarely happens anymore. I feel like we're all old, have been here for said decade or more. The chinz is probably uncool and also no one has kids anymore.

[Anonymous No.17948088]

Coof

[Anonymous No.17948246]

>>17938468
Well guys I'm back and slightly less clueless now.

Did some major maintenance on this thing; insides were absolutely filthy and had to descale it twice since it was so gunked up.
Added filtered water and replaced the in-machine water filter.
Adjusted the grind setting from 6 (second least fine) to 2
Fiddled with the dose and yield for the single-shot espresso

TODO:
Figure out what I like/dislike when it comes to espresso beans. Any resource[s] out there to help a noob?

[Anonymous No.17948256]

>>17948246
Find a nice local roaster and talk to them. Don't trust people on here

[Anonymous No.17948735]

>>17948246
Noone is going to be able to tell you what you prefer in coffee. You've got some equipment. Start ordering beans. https://youtu.be/O9YnLFrM7Fs
>>17948256
His local roaster isn't going to know shit.

[Anonymous No.17948891]

>>17948735
>His local roaster isn't going to know shit.
this. local roasters and baristas are fucking clueless. i bet the average schizo in this thread knows more about beans than those professional clowns.

[Anonymous No.17949389]

>>17948246
The problem you might encounter is whilst you have dialed in your preferences for one particular type of coffee, that can change when you change coffee. The bean type, size, roast level all impact what settings you might choose. Even as you work through a single bag of beans you can expect grind setting to change.

Normally Super-Automatics don't give the level of control you need to fine tune your espresso to get the best shot.

Personally I wouldn't spend too much on beans to go in it. My experience is you can make some perfectly acceptable espresso or milk drinks but no point going for high end specialty coffee - lots of roasters have a much cheaper house blend that is fresh but not too pricey.

[Anonymous No.17949473]

Like 3 months of owning it and my new Krautmandante started making a weird sound when spinning it with the top on. Like a small chainsaw or a zipper oppening type of sound. I'm kinda peeved.

[Anonymous No.17949486]

>>17946261
Pro 2? That video an anon posted was super helpful to me
https://youtu.be/KgNeV8G2LBM
Combined with preheating brewing chamber with steam from the kettle, it makes tasty coffee every time and it's super simple

[Anonymous No.17949540]

For the same price, is there anything better than a Niche Zero?

[Anonymous No.17949702]

>>17949540
Maybe

[Anonymous No.17949851]

>>17946031
gween tea

[Anonymous No.17949868]

>>17949486
I got the signature, I like it.

[Anonymous No.17949953]

>>17949486
>>17949868
Based. Turns out slightly inconvenient workflow is worth it for brettygud espresso.

[Anonymous No.17949979]

Wait, I thought that the workflow wasn't inconvenient? Now the workflow is inconvenient but it's worth it because you can make mediocre espresso with considerable effort?

[Anonymous No.17949995]

>>17946261
>>17949486
>>17949868
>>17949953
Imagine samefagging this hard. Nobody is going to buy your piece of shit lever or your useless melodrip or your dogshit overpriced coffee brand, nigger.

[Anonymous No.17950003]

>>17949979
>mediocre espresso
It makes good espresso

[Anonymous No.17950009]

>>17950003
Poorfag cope

[Anonymous No.17950046]

>>17949979
Flair58 workflow isn't. The other models have dealbreakers like pouring water an additional time. Really wish I had that automatic delonghi.
>>17950009
Not him. My burrs cost more than your grinder. So does my pressure gauge.

[Anonymous No.17950070]

>>17950046
Why can't you afford an actual machine then?

[Anonymous No.17950123]

>>17950070
I don't like the decent's UI and don't feel like running a 2k watt boiler and waiting an hour to pull two shots a day. Decent synesso clone looks nice but it doesn't seem all that data driven. Maybe I snag a DE2XL when that releases.

[Anonymous No.17950196]

>I could totally afford it
>I just uhhhhh.... don't like the UI, yeah, bad UI
>I spam the thread constantly with posts about the cheapest pressure profiling lever under $3500 just for fun the price doesn't actually matter because I could totally afford it
Fucking kek okay buddy

[Anonymous No.17950336]

>>17950196
I probably should have gotten a bdb and df64 instead right?

[Anonymous No.17950347]

>>17950336
How many times are you going to post that receipt? This has to be the 20th time you've posted it in the past year. How have your not realized by this point that nobody cares? Now post Decent receipt and I'll stop making fun of you and I might even buy the next meme gearqueer shit that you decide to shill.

[Anonymous No.17950362]

>>17950336
Why not post a picture of the grinder rather than the receipt?

[Anonymous No.17950369]

>nooooooooo you can't afford it stop posting receipts of shit I can't afford
Do you like the profitec p500 or bdb better.

[Anonymous No.17950398]

>stop posting receipts of shit I can't afford
As I said, you've been an obnoxious faggot for months now spamming the same picture of this receipt in every thread and bringing up your Wug at every opportunity. Nobody ever replies to your receipt posts (except me to make fun of you) because they think you're an obnoxious faggot.
>Do you like the profitec p500 or bdb better.
You can't afford either, so what does it matter?

[Anonymous No.17950787]

What's the best tasting k-cup brand you've ever tried?

[Anonymous No.17951726]

goffee

[Anonymous No.17952193]

This gato died irl recently. Pour some goffee out for the dead gomies.

[Anonymous No.17952761]

>noooooooooooo post more about kingrinders and aeropresses

[Anonymous No.17952774]

The aeropress is the best pressure profiling espresso machine under $3500

[Anonymous No.17952802]

Its pretty close.
https://youtu.be/VFvKRI99Zi4

[Anonymous No.17953051]

You will never be a real woman and your aeropress will never be a real espresso machine

[Anonymous No.17953074]

Why do we never have good bait ITT? It's just manual grinder autism and "le fancy brand-name french press".

[Anonymous No.17954119]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfCGc3Jjmps

[Anonymous No.17954288]

>>17945266
>>17945895
Get a cheap one from K-mart or Target; electric is faster than stove cos the power goes straight into the water rather than thru the metal bottom of the kettle.

>>17950787
Don't use k-cups please

>>17952802
All that effort... I would rather get an espresso machine. Is it really an aeropress espresso if you use another extra machine to get the pressure up?

[Anonymous No.17954293]

>>17925262
For me, it's NescafeTM Instant French Vanilla Coffee.

[Anonymous No.17954454]

>>17952802
Neat. If only it wasn't plastic

[Anonymous No.17954646]

>>17954288
>Don't use k-cups please
i've got two toddlers so often it's hard to find time to brew a pot and when i do it tends to sit there all day.

[Anonymous No.17954649]

>>17953074
be the change you want to see. try picking an idiotic opinion that has just enough merit to be considered and then passionately argue it.

[Anonymous No.17954698]

>>17923419
see you in /tekgen/

[Anonymous No.17954711]

>>17924507
such autism... i kneel
get the lelit you'll get more enjoyment out of looking at something pretty than out of 1 extra mm in your coffee

[Anonymous No.17954736]

>>17954711
I decided to just spend more. Lelit Victoria arrived this morning.

[Anonymous No.17954737]

>>17954711
Kek. But in all seriousness 57mm is a pretty niche group size. Your basket and accessory options will be a bit limited. Not the same anon but the 57mm is probably a bigger deal breaker than temp control and aesthetics.

[Anonymous No.17954762]

>>17954737
Lelit do offer a limited range of accessories in 57mm, but I didn't want to have it 6 months and be frustrated by a lack of options. The Victoria is 58mm.

The main downside to the Victoria (although seems to be the case with all the Lilets) is that it's a real bitch to get to the OPV. It ships with 11 bars as standard apparently. I have seen people control the pressure but opening the steam wand whilst pulling a shot though. Eventually I'll probably take it apart to turn it to 9 bar though

[Anonymous No.17954772]

>>17954736
Congrats anon, use in good health
>>17954737
>Your basket and accessory options will be a bit limited.
I refuse to believe that you can't find anything you want on the wonderous internet

[Anonymous No.17954792]

Switching to cold brew from instant has been a revelation. $40 USD for the pot + filter, $6 for a plastic jug to store it, $6 for a bag of pre-ground that makes over 3L worth of brew concentrate and it's way better than the instant crap I've had and doesn't include all the junk that the sachets have (and those cost $15 USD for 30 sachets).
I got a simple milk heater/frother and that is enough to warm up the combined milk + brew to temperature and it's obviously great for iced coffee.

[Anonymous No.17954800]

>>17954762
>control the pressure by opening the steam wand whilst pulling a shot
That sounds like it would tank the temperature at the group head.

[Anonymous No.17954920]

Using my new flair signature, I accidentally ran it once without the filter between the chamber and portafilter. Shot tasted fine, as did my next one. My only fear is that some grounds could have gone in the pressure guage. Anybody know anything about that?

[Anonymous No.17954931]

I had too much coffee bros :(

[Anonymous No.17954944]

>>17954920
It shouldn't have. If it was likely to happen youd also be getting water in your pressure guage and that doesn't seem to happen.

[Anonymous No.17954963]

Thanks for the reassurance. Another question: how high do you fill it up with water? I've been going slightly above the rim of the chamber lid, and that's been working so far. I can not find an answer to this question anywhere online

[Anonymous No.17954970]

>>17954963
Meant for
>>17954931

[Anonymous No.17954977]

>>17954963
Meant for
>>17954944

[Anonymous No.17954987]

>>17954963
Believe there is a line just near the top of the brew chamber that is a fill to line. Either way you want it mostly full. Typically just stop at the point where it's almost enough to touch the plunger but not quite.

[Anonymous No.17955110]

>>17954963
Fill past the bottom of the piston ring. You don't want an air bubble. If you want to play with a lower volume, just set the ring lower to begin with.

[Anonymous No.17955149]

Why is my second cup always better tham the first kfrench press btw)???

[Anonymous No.17955162]

>>17954987
>>17955110
Thanks bros. I've drank 4 shots today, feeling wired

[Anonymous No.17956033]

Is decaf worth it?
I often find myself craving coffee from 6pm-11pm but don't because I don't want to fuck with my sleep hygiene. Is there any difference in taste between normal and decaf beans?

[Anonymous No.17956228]

>>17956033
get swiss water decaf if you don't want the weird chemical taste of regular decaf

[Anonymous No.17957457]

What kingrinder is best for aeropresso?

[Anonymous No.17957498]

>>17957457
Commandante

[Anonymous No.17957922]

kof

[Anonymous No.17957970]

Just got some stuff. What do I think of it?

[Anonymous No.17958065]

about to pick up my new beans what won't i think of them?

[Anonymous No.17958066]

How’s the Robot’s espresso quality? Is it as good as a La Pavoni? I don’t care about milk drinks btw and usually don’t brew anything roasted before second crack.

[Anonymous No.17958317]

>>17958065
*rapes you*

[Anonymous No.17958339]

coffee is a faggot drink

[Anonymous No.17958364]

>>17958339
i would hope so

[Anonymous No.17959281]

Which kingrinder is the best commandante?

[Anonymous No.17959292]

>>17959281
Knock Aergrind

[Anonymous No.17959387]

>>17959292
I prefer the rok aergrind for my aeropresso.

[Anonymous No.17959405]

>>17959387
I prefer the Lido 3 for my Nanopresso 'spresso

[Anonymous No.17959555]

>>17959405
For me its a pre second crack rwandan handgrond for a 1zpresso jx pro for my joepresso.

[Anonymous No.17960062]

>>17957970
You think it's the bee's knees.