/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.17919228]

>Analyzing factors such as age, body mass index, amount of physical activity, and ethnicity among other various variables, the researchers found that individuals who consumed unsweetened coffee were at the lowest risk of death while those who did not consume coffee at all had higher risks. It was revealed that the individuals who consumed between 2.5 and 4.5 cups of coffee a day were at a 29% lower risk of death.
>Even for individuals who consumed coffee with sugar, the risk of death was comparatively lower than for those who did not consume the beverage. The results were similar irrespective of whether the participants consumed instant, ground, or decaffeinated coffee. The data did not provide a clear correlation among people who used artificial sweeteners instead.

So I guess coffee is in fact good for you. But what coffee tastes good without cream and sugar?

[Anonymous No.17919240]

now pull up the data for tea drinkers

[Anonymous No.17919242]

>>17919228
Correlation isn't causation. You're behaving like a CNN viewing leftist commie.

[Anonymous No.17919243]

Death has a 100% chance of happening though

[Anonymous No.17919245]

>>17919228
So 29%of coffee drinkers live forever?

[Anonymous No.17919253]

>>17919228
If you usually need cream or sugar, try coffee with just milk. Makes it much less bitter and acidic.

[Anonymous No.17919302]

>>17919228
The most likely explanation is that people who enjoy unsweetened beverages are more likely to make better lifestyle choices and have a lower risk of preventable death.
That's not most coffee drinkers though, who load down their instant with milk and sugar and wonder why they can't lose 5lbs.

[Anonymous No.17919308]

>>17919228
caffeine is degenerate
hedonists get the rope

[Anonymous No.17919312]

>>17919242
>Correlation isn't causation

Correlation isn't necessarily causation, you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.17919316]

>>17919302
>What an interesting phenomenon OP, here's my explanation
>Now, I'll tell you why my explanation is retarded and doesn't make sense
True midwit

[Anonymous No.17919318]

>>17919228
Are the non coffee drinkers vaxxed though?

[Anonymous No.17919320]

>>17919228
If your problem with coffee is bitterness, try light or medium roasts, using brewing methods that extract less, like pourovers, or use less coffee, and don't make stale coffee, if your grounds are smelling sweet, your shit is stale.
If you're an infrequent coffee enjoyer, buy whole bean and keep it in an airtight container, it should last you one to two months that way, and just grind what you need.

[Anonymous No.17919327]

>>17919320
>If your problem with coffee is bitterness, try light or medium roasts
your mommas so fat she caused a stack overflow in the scale software

[Anonymous No.17919329]

>>17919302
>The most likely explanation is that people who enjoy unsweetened beverages are more likely to make better lifestyle choices a

What the fuck? That is not most likely at all. The most likely explanation is the simplest one, which is that the chemicals in coffee are good for your organs.

[Anonymous No.17919337]

>>17919329
I'm not going to pretend coffee is some miracle food that literally makes you live longer, it sounds like cherrypicked statistics much like how cool wine aunts will believe those studies about red wine being good for you.

[Anonymous No.17919368]

>>17919337
>Science cannot be true if it conflicts with my baseless kneejerk preconceptions

[Anonymous No.17919383]

>>17919228
>29% of coffe drinkers dont die
how much do i need to drink to live forever?

[Anonymous No.17919451]

>>17919243
>Death has a 100% chance of happening though
>>17919245
>So 29%of coffee drinkers live forever?
They took 171,616 people with an average age of 55.6 years who didn't already have cardiovascular disease or cancers and then checked up on them during follow-up period between 2009 and 2018. They had to die during that follow-up period for it to count towards the mortality risk assessed at the end.
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M21-2977

[Anonymous No.17919470]

>>17919337
It's probably legitimate and just means people with health problems on the way to an early death are going to avoid things like coffee because their fragile bodies can't take it.
Coffee wouldn't be making you healthier in that case. It would instead be an indicator you were already healthy enough to be OK with the idea of regularly dosing yourself with a stimulant.

[Anonymous No.17919484]

>>17919228
>unsweetened coffee vs no coffee
Unsweetened group clearly has some scew towards a healthier lifestyle while the non coffee drinkers are just normal people. This is a terrible interpretation of a study. It actually says nothing about coffee at all, but the people who drink it with no sugar

[Anonymous No.17919494]

>>17919228
>i have enough money to waste it on completely superfluous drinks, multiple every single day.
>said drink is associated with office culture, office jobs, and hard working people likely to have higher paying jobs.

Just like most studies, unless they controlled for income levels this is useless.

[Anonymous No.17919536]

>>17919494
Coffee is also associated with tradesmen, manual laborers, and the military. Servicemen will often have cups of coffee between their bang energy drinks. And in construction everyone has a thermos of coffee. The Beans Cafe (homeless shelter) always needs more coffee because the homeless love coffe (and it keeps them away from drugs and alcohol)

[Anonymous No.17919557]

>>17919536
that's fair, but did the study control for income and use/moderation? If not, it's retarded.

Probably the same reason you can say the occasional whisky is associated with longer life, or 1 glass of wine a day. I can all but guarantee the dude who has 2 glasses of scotch a week or a glass of wine with meals is richer and more adjusted than the average person who drinks nothing. I'd also wager the homeless guys and alcoholics slammin tons of it don't even make it to take the test or give accurate answers.

Even in your post, the homeless guys that love coffee are probably doing better than the homeless guys that love heroin.

[Anonymous No.17919567]

I am not a schizophrenic i am not

[Anonymous No.17919577]

>>17919302
Then explain why the second half of the post says people who put sugar in their coffee still live longer you illiterate moron

[Anonymous No.17919585]

>>17919536
sorry to be so autistic about it, but see the below quote from an article about the study.

"Study participants who drank between one and four cups of lightly sweetened coffee per day were 29 to 31% less likely to die during the study, according to the data."

So people who engage in regular daily rituals, have self control, and disposable income to spend on coffee do better than people who don't drink it. Leads me to believe my original assumption was correct.

[Anonymous No.17919592]

>consuming caffeine
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.17919735]

>>17919228
>various variables
stopped reading and caring.
>it's about coffee

[Anonymous No.17919747]

fuck you coffee is good

[Anonymous No.17919766]

>>17919747
Coffee soda is better

[Anonymous No.17919874]

>>17919308
This
100% of heroin addicts tried caffeine first

[Anonymous No.17919890]

>>17919484
No, the study found lower risk of death for both unsweetened coffee drinkers and sugar using coffee drinkers.

[Anonymous No.17919892]

>tfw finally mastered the 4:6 v60 method
tastes good man

[Anonymous No.17919895]

>>17919228
>Now researchers in China have found people who consumed a moderate amount of coffee every day, whether sweetened with sugar or not, had a lower risk of death over a seven-year period than those who did not.
>researchers in China
one of the first things you learn in research is to be skeptical of ALL papers out of the PRC

[Anonymous No.17919908]

>>17919892
why would anyone ever need 60 cylinders

[Anonymous No.17919917]

>>17919451
this is a retarded conclusion.

[Anonymous No.17919919]

>>17919895
It's not like this is a topic that the Communist Party of China has some sort of special agenda for.
Looks like a pretty simple and non-controversial study to me. They didn't actually perform any physical / experimental tasks for it either in case you're concerned about them fucking that up. It's merely a look at what happened to people who declared their coffee drinking habits.

[Anonymous No.17919923]

>>17919917
What conclusion? As far as I can tell the conclusion is just "this is what was found." Did anyone try to claim coffee has medicinal value or something?

[Anonymous No.17919953]

>>17919228
Oh yeah, and milk is very unhealthy for me too. Fuck off with your bullshit fake science article shilling.

[Anonymous No.17919968]

>>17919919
>It's not like this is a topic that the Communist Party of China has some sort of special agenda for.
I think he's more pointing out how the peer review system has basically been rendered meaningless due to the sheer amount of Chinese scientists flooding the field and rubberstamping each other's research because "it's not about what you publish, it's about how much you publish". It's not a problem exclusive to China, mind you, but their large population and cultural obsession with clout that's exploded has turned this into a serious problem in the scientific community over the last couple decades.
You get a lot of unscientific junk like this where they do a week's worth of statistical analysis and then publish a completely meaningless paper just to pad their resume.

[Anonymous No.17919976]

>>17919919
>people who declared their coffee drinking habits
self reported data is worthless

[Anonymous No.17919982]

>>17919976
Did you want to drug test them daily for caffeine over the course of seven years? It was a cohort study you dip.

[Anonymous No.17919988]

>>17919982
>Did you want to drug test them daily for caffeine over the course of seven years?
Yes. Science should be rigorous.

[Anonymous No.17919990]

>>17919228
>It was revealed that the individuals who consumed between 2.5 and 4.5 cups of coffee a day were at a 29% lower risk of death.
Death from what?

[Anonymous No.17919992]

>>17919990
Me.

[Anonymous No.17919993]

>>17919228
so If I drink 90% more coffee on top of the 30% I will be invincible?

[Anonymous No.17920038]

>>17919982
Cohort studies are performed by career obsessed bureaucrats who are too unskilled to find a mechanism
They are wasting grant money to pad their CVs and make splashy, forgettable headlines like the one in the op

[Anonymous No.17920051]

>study funded by Starbucks

[Anonymous No.17920068]

>>17919327
You mean integer overflow you turbo brainlet

[Anonymous No.17920106]

>>17920051
>Starbucks
>coffee

naw, they sell sugar drinks that have caffeine in them

[Anonymous No.17920118]

you're gonna die no matter what you drink dickhead

[Anonymous No.17920126]

>>17920106
Nigga you think most people read past the headline? They'll see that headline, hop in the car, and order four mocha fraps double whip no cap

[Anonymous No.17920133]

>>17920106
I mean, if you want to get down to it, it's not the sugar they're profiting on so much as it's the sheer amount of dairy they go through. Regionally sourced milk and cream is dirt cheap for large buyers and makes up most of their popular drinks. That said, I vaguely remember a shareholder report mentioning how regular drip Pike Place blend was still their best-selling product but I'm too lazy to go looking for it.

[Anonymous No.17920180]

>>17920133
I just wish their Expresso wasn't fucking burnt. Someone who worked at Starbucks explained why that was but I forgot the details

[Anonymous No.17920205]

>>17919383
>29% lower chance means the same as 29% of people
Jesus, are you people retarded or only pretending to be?

[Anonymous No.17920234]

>>17920180
IIRC, they use high-pressure/high-temp on their espresso because 90% of the time it's being served in a drink where more than half the volume is dairy and they want to preserve the coffee taste. The beans are also typically roasted a little more than you'd expect because they're being shipped around the world and stored for weeks, and burnt beans simply last longer because the stuff that rancidifies has burned off.

[Anonymous No.17920253]

>>17919240
here you go bro
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200109105508.htm

[Anonymous No.17920263]

>>17919228
>But what coffee tastes good without cream and sugar?
Instant coffee. Also use milk instead of cream you silly little Amerifat critter.

[Anonymous No.17920301]

>>17919228

[Anonymous No.17920317]

>>17919312
Seems like a distinction without a difference

[Anonymous No.17920322]

>>17919242
>Correlation isn't causation
Love this reddit chant. It ONLY comes up when they don't like what the statistics might mean. When the correlation suggests something they do like, they point to it and claim it vindicates their entire fantasy land worldview.

[Anonymous No.17920332]

>>17920301
This proves DM is an unbiased source simply reporting scientific results without trying to promote one view or another. Most other "science journalism" will only show you the study they want you to agree with and ignore the one that says the opposite.

[Anonymous No.17920362]

>>17920038
>The study, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, is based on data from more than 171,000 participants
It seems more like you don't understand how much cost and time is involved with analyzing a single blood sample, let alone almost 200k every single year.

[Anonymous No.17920383]

>>17920362
I'd be more likely to believe a controlled study with 171 participants than a cohort study with 171,000
even if it was done by Zhang et al.

[Anonymous No.17920390]

>>17920301
Which is it?!

[Anonymous No.17920394]

>>17920332
False. If they were unbiased source just trying to present scientific information they would have accurate headlines instead of clickbait garbage misrepresenting the quality of evidence.

[Anonymous No.17920396]

Yeah but it's extra time at the end of your life. I'm 41 now and feel exponentially worse than a did at 30. Only masochists and boomers want to be old withered drains on society

[Anonymous No.17920397]

>>17920362
>WE'RE PUBLISHED AND USED A LOT OF DATA POINTS, THAT MEANS TRUST THE SCIENCE!
Garbage analysis of garbage data is an utter plague nowadays. You can parse entire spreadsheets in a couple keystrokes and then write a bullshit template paper.

[Anonymous No.17920403]

>>17920301
Both studies are correct. The problem if anything is the pop sci journalists reporting on it not including the details.
The first one showed that if you take a group of overweight people between the ages of 40 and 75 who have prediabetes and have some of them eat one egg a day and some of them not, the ones who ate one egg a day show modest improvements in fasting blood glucose.
The other study shows that if you look at the dietary habits of a bunch of people and compare it with diabetes incidence you'll find the ones who ate eggs were more likely to be the ones who eventually become diabetics.
This isn't contradictory because people who eat more eggs might also be people who do a lot of other things that modify diabetes risk, like eating a surplus of calories overall for example. Something can both be good for you on its own while being something more commonly seen with people who are worse off for other reasons. An obvious example might be that the kind of person taking a lot of health supplements might be more likely to have health problems. Maybe the health supplements are good for them but the fact they're feeling the need to take them makes it more likely they're sick and grasping at anything that could improve their condition.

[Anonymous No.17920420]

>>17920403
sounds like me. I've been doing OMAD as a lifestyle for 5 years and I started getting multivitamins last year because I'm worried I'm not eating enough.

[Anonymous No.17920434]

>>17919228
Everyone's risk of death is 100% on a long enough timeline. That headline is sensationalist bullshit as per usual. Go drink whatever you want.

[Anonymous No.17920470]

>>17920317
Cutting off hands correlates to a rise in people without two hands, but since correlation doesn't equal causation, we must not look to this and assume instead that they're habitual masturbators and their frequent fapping causes their wrists to wear away.

The distinction is that acting like some things don't correlate to their cause is dumb as shit. Sometimes correlation DOES equal causation and to repeat some stupid little mantra like you're trying to make rain rain go away at anything you don't like is retarded. And you acting retarded correlates with the fact that you're a retard, and acting like a retarded causes your retardation, because given an opportunity to learn, you'd rather act like a retard, which means your learning is being slowed by you acting like a retard, your learning is being retarded by you being retarded.

Correlation, causation, chicken, egg, cope, seethe.

[Anonymous No.17920474]

>>17920470
>?!

[Anonymous No.17920493]

> individuals who consumed between 2.5 and 4.5 cups of coffee a day were at a 29% lower risk of death.

my uncle just beat prostate cancer and the doctors told him the best thing he can do is reduce his coffee down to a cup a day.

[Anonymous No.17920495]

>>17919308
You faggots have been crying about the day of the rope since Obama got in.
The only thing we've seen was the Day of the Cope in 2020 when BLM burned down cities and /pol/ hid in their basements pretending it would make the world see how nigger black people could be, instead of the actual result of white people kneeling and kissing boots.

I look forward to sipping my coffee as your son gets on his knees.

[Anonymous No.17920512]

>>17920474
>implying those symbols don't indicate the best chess moves

[Anonymous No.17920542]

>>17920493
Prostate cancer is uniquely impacted by diuretics like coffee.
Again, both cases are true and don't contradict one another. Context is important. When they do studies like this they go out of their way to avoid warping the results with people who have a condition already known to be affected negatively by the substance in question.
For people who don't already have blatant severe medical problems, you can probably predict fewer of them will die within a subsequent X year window based on whether they're a coffee drinker or not. And at the same time, you probably shouldn't drink coffee if you're recovering from prostate cancer.
Similar to how fiber is maybe helpful to the average person while also being the first thing removed from the diet of a patient with severe GI problems in a hospital setting. Or how the practice of strenuous exercise is a good predictor of future health while also being potentially harmful to someone who just had a heart attack a day earlier.

[Anonymous No.17920616]

>>17919585
>drinking coffee is always a ritual
Lmao
>people who drink four cups of coffee have self control
Rofl
>drip coffee that costs cents a day is disposable income
You're not being autistic you're just making shit up. Your additional assumptions make your original assumption correct, wow.

[Anonymous No.17920672]

>>17920394
I read both those DM articles and they accurately describe the contents of the studies though?
>>17920397
Sounds like you've figured out how to make bank doing very little work, why aren't you doing it?

[Anonymous No.17920688]

>>17920470
>Sometimes correlation DOES equal causation

I can name one for you.

[Anonymous No.17920765]

>>17919228
for each cup of coffee i drink i eat a hot dog so it evens out

[Anonymous No.17920772]

>>17919228
Teacuck sisters, did we get too cocky...

[Anonymous No.17920779]

>>17919320
>Imagine not liking the taste of black coffee
No. I even like the taste of decaf and some gas station swill. Am I rare in truly liking the flavor?

[Anonymous No.17920793]

>>17920772
I am literally shaking right now. Tea kettles really are just 1/2 of a coffee machine. It's not fair, I hate you stupid sexy americhads ;_;

[Anonymous No.17921265]

>>17919228
How many ml and many mg per cup? (Give caffeine content equivalent if possible)
Btw 150 or 118 ml per cup

[Anonymous No.17921438]

>drink coffee
>become immortal

[Anonymous No.17921449]

>>17919968
The current research environment is basically publish or perish. It encourages spamming out 5 mediocre papers instead of what could have been one really good paper. There's more to it than that too and has a lot of other issues.

[Anonymous No.17921547]

>>17919228
>But what coffee tastes good without cream and sugar?
I've been drinking coffee using tons of different devices over the years.
Of all the methods I've used, I found the 4:6 V60 method made for the best black coffee drinking experience.
I dialed it in and found a bean from Costa Rica which game me my favorite cup.

[Anonymous No.17921574]

>>17920793
You're a man

[Anonymous No.17921668]

>>17921574
And?

[Anonymous No.17921869]

>>17919228

[Anonymous No.17921875]

>>17919242
this says literally nothing about causation

[Anonymous No.17921887]

>>17919228
good coffee tastes excellent without cream and sugar

[Anonymous No.17921890]

i like my women like i like my coffee
i hate coffee

[Anonymous No.17921951]

>>17921887
Good coffee would be ruined by cream and sugar

[Anonymous No.17922121]

>>17919243
I've never died before and see no reason why I should start now

[Anonymous No.17922131]

>always mix tea and coffee together at work
Ha! KNEEL coffeecucks and teatwats

[Anonymous No.17922460]

>>17919228
coffee + milk is kino combo

adding sugar is fatass behavior

[Anonymous No.17922892]

>>17919536
You’re not wrong but working in both trades and office settings, both groups of workers drink copious amounts of coffee. Though, it probably helps the blue collars worker are actually active with their coffee consumption.

[Anonymous No.17923039]

>>17919228
*early death*
29% less chance of dying would mean that those lucky people live forever.

[Anonymous No.17924144]

>>17919302
>unsweetened
most people put sugar in their coffee

[Anonymous No.17924149]

>>17920106
they serve plenty of good coffee, its just that most people only order crap

[Anonymous No.17924178]

>>17919228
Or perhaps the people who can't afford to drink coffee also can't afford healthcare.

[Anonymous No.17924180]

>>17919536
Doesn't everyone drink coffee? Blue-collar, white-collar, pink-collar, fucking rainbow-collar; they're all drinking coffee. Only NEETs and stubborn motherfuckers don't.

[Anonymous No.17924183]

I want to die but I don't want to give up coffee

[Anonymous No.17924184]

>>17924178
I make 80k a year and I refuse to sign up for health insurance because insurance is a pyramid scheme.

[Anonymous No.17924190]

>>17919228
>100% of non-coffee drinkers die
>coffee drinkers have a 29% lower risk of dying
Does that mean if you drink coffee there's a 29% chance to become immortal?

[Anonymous No.17924191]

>>17924190
yes that's exactly what the study means

[Anonymous No.17924313]

>>17920616
It's cool if you want to put words in my mouth, but you know I didn't say any of those things.

>takes what the other person says and changes it to extreme views that were never actually said

>ignores quote from actual article about study saying the best performing group liked moderate amounts of coffee with low amounts of sweetner added.

>easily dismantles fake talking points they made up

It's easy to defeat an opponent you made up in your head. Try avoiding strawmans next time. You're not giving me anything to believe my assumptions are wrong, or any examples from the study to show that they controlled for income.

What I don't get is why you're so angry about it, I guess it's probably the retarded thing.

[Anonymous No.17924339]

>>17924184
I just don't go to the doctor. If I can't treat whatever problems I have with supplements then w/e.

[Anonymous No.17924403]

>>17919228
How are these statistics not bullshti?

[Anonymous No.17924410]

>>17924403
They are. Midwits love taking individual data points and extrapolating them over the entire populace.

>Anon did you know you have a 0.0001% chance of being run over when crossing the road?
>Errr this road is literally completely empty
>DOESN'T MATTER YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE BECAUSE PROFESSOR SHEKELBERG TOLD ME

Reminds me of that Orwell quote about rejecting the evidence of your eyes and ears and just relying on what you're told.

[Anonymous No.17924417]

>>17919567
You will never have a healthy brain.

[Anonymous No.17924639]

>>17919766
but sugar is terrible for you

[Anonymous No.17924748]

>>17924639
Eating too many calories is terrible for you. Sugar hysteria is mostly a ketotard meme.

[Anonymous No.17924754]

>>17924410
mental case

>>17924403
Because correcting for factors is shaky science no matter what. They "correct" for weight, but what is that correction? It's entirely subjective how to correct for it, and a study that does the same data points but with a different correction could get entirely different results. Over correction and inaccurate correction is a very reliable way to generate sociologically misleading information.

Also, coffee drinkers are spending money that non-coffee drinkers aren't. Stands to reason that higher expenses --> higher income --> lower chance of death.

[Anonymous No.17924761]

>>17924748
nah, sugar causes inflammation and long term chronic inflammation wreaks havoc with your body, a diet high in sugar is really bad for you without even mentioning anything calorie or weight gain related.

[Anonymous No.17924777]

>>17924754
Scratch that, it's the other way around. The were ONLY looking at risk characteristics, and found that coffee drinkers had lower risk factors, and non-drinkers more. Which really doesn't say anything about the coffee, and just implies that there is a negative association between risk and coffee drinking: that it is something people who aren't likely to die anytime soon are likely to do. That doesn't inform whether or not you should drink coffee, it informs whether or not you should expect a given person to die soon.

[Anonymous No.17924819]

>>17924761
>sugar causes inflammation
So does oxygen.

[Anonymous No.17924824]

>>17919988
Obviously, we need a randomized controlled double-blind study, where the subjects don't know whether they are drinking real or ersatz coffee.

[Anonymous No.17924826]

>>17924748
The truth is in-between. Most people consume way too much sugar, especially processed sugar. But if you're healthy and don't overeat it's fine.

[Anonymous No.17924827]

>>17924819
Weird you need one to live and the other to uh not do anything crucial for the body so I guess it's like they're the same thing

[Anonymous No.17924846]

>>17924827
They're pretty similar since almost everyone except keto cultists get some portion of their calories from sugars and you could go out of your way to reduce oxygen intake too if you were similarly into mentally ill fads.

[Anonymous No.17924866]

>>17924846
Nah even at 1:1 calorie consumption, sugar is bad. High GI foods burn out your endocrine response and give you diabetes even if you don't eat above BMR. You also feel hungry a lot faster after heating high GI foods.

[Anonymous No.17924873]

>>17919567
If you drank Coffee you would feel better, your brain fog would clear up and you wouldn't have to worry about being stalked or being on watchlists. You should drink a cuppa joe.

[Anonymous No.17924883]

>drink and eat all of the things that lower my risk of death
>it's multiplicative and not additive so diminishing returns
>still manage an 89% chance of never dying

[Anonymous No.17925069]

>>17924866
>High GI foods burn out your endocrine response and give you diabetes even if you don't eat above BMR.
No it doesn't. You're confusing result of diabetic onset with the cause.
Type 2 diabetes is predicted by whether or not someone is overweight, not what their diet's macronutrient ratio is.
Same as how AIDS patients being unable to handle mild respiratory disease is a result of AIDS and not its cause.
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/guide-to-diabetes/enjoy-food/eating-with-diabetes/diabetes-food-myths/myth-sugar-causes-diabetes
>With Type 2 diabetes, though we know sugar doesn’t directly cause Type 2 diabetes, you are more likely to get it if you are overweight. You gain weight when you take in more calories than your body needs, and sugary foods and drinks contain a lot of calories.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23880355
>In the present study, we investigated the association between dietary intake of carbohydrates and the risk of type 2 diabetes.
>These prospective findings suggest that the intakes of starch and sucrose are not associated, but that those of fructose and glucose are inversely associated with diabetes risk.
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/
>Is diabetes caused by eating sugar?
>A diet high in calories from any source (including sugar) contributes to weight gain and weight gain increases your risk for type 2 diabetes.
>The mechanisms by which visceral obesity results in insulin resistance appear to be related to excess lipid accumulation in liver. This may be due to excess fatty acids from visceral adipose tissue draining into the portal vein.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4038351/#S11title

[Anonymous No.17925110]

>>17925069
I kneel
I made it up

[Anonymous No.17925265]

>>17919243
This is deep.

[Anonymous No.17925290]

>>17925110
>I made it up
Based

[Anonymous No.17925402]

>>17919228
Who are you quoting

[Anonymous No.17925443]

>>17919228
I stopped drinking coffee about six months ago and I have never felt better in my life. I have an occasional tea. Anyway, not falling for this propaganda study funded by Big Bean

[Anonymous No.17926502]

>>17924410
Now what mr smart man?

[Anonymous No.17926523]

>>17919228
scientists are so fucking stupid

fate is pre determined, you will die at whatever age god sets for you. drinking coffee has nothing to do with it

[Anonymous No.17926528]

>>17926523
Nah bro, I made a deal with god that he would extend my life for every cup I drank.

[Anonymous No.17926531]

Absolutely astounded by the number of absolute idiots inhabiting this thread.
>Uhhh actually you have a 100% chance of death! Tee hee
Yes, moron, immortality is not induced by drinking bean juice, did you actually think even for a single second that this study implied anything of the sort? If so, you are a retard, kindly remove yourself from the gene pool and preferably stop consuming oxygen better put to use on more useful life forms like slime molds and plague rats.
Lowering the risk of death means lowering it WITHIN A GIVEN TIMEFRAME. Here's how longevity works. Every year, you roll the dice on whether you die or not. Certain factors such as your sex, your weight, your activity level, your diet, and particularly your age can weight the results of that dice throw one way or another. Eventually, you WILL come up snake eyes and that's that. But the chances are never 100%. That's why we still get super-centenarians who live to 110 even though they have a ton of factors stacked against them like lifelong smoking habits and being old as shit. Their number just hasn't come up yet, because in a population of seven billion you're bound to get at least a few lucky fuckers.
What does this mean about the study? It means that over the period of the study, coffee drinkers were 29% less likely to hit a roll that resulted in their death. You can make up cute little stories in your head about why that happened, but the study doesn't care about that. It didn't test for any of that. It ONLY tests for whether or not you throw the dice and the Reaper plucks you from this mortal coil as you likely richly deserve.
So does that mean that coffee is good for you? I don't fucking know. But it does mean that it's probably not BAD for you, so I'm going to keep drinking it, because I like it, and it isn't going to kill me any time soon.

[Anonymous No.17926553]

>>17919567
the sign is actually a subtle joke

[Anonymous No.17926568]

>>17921869
I hope you get sent to a FEMA forced labor camp

[Anonymous No.17927653]

>>17919308
Go hop on the Mayflower you fucking Puritan

[Anonymous No.17927670]

>>17926523
which god or gods sets your end date?
Chronos?
the Moirai?

[Anonymous No.17927846]

>>17919228
>chug even more coffee than I currently do
>become a god
Beware, mortals

[Anonymous No.17927850]

>>17927670
Me.

[Anonymous No.17927937]

Case closed. No more coomer threads.

[Anonymous No.17928623]

>>17919228
>drink 2 cups of black coffee in the morning
>drink some black tea throughout the afternoon
Simple as.

[Anonymous No.17929979]

>>17919243
yeah, it's just 29% riskier

[Anonymous No.17930028]

>>17919228
Any coffee that is actually brewed from whole beans instead of shat out from that piece of shit kureg machine that spits out plastic and sawdust into your fucking cup. Seriously I can't even stand coffee with cream and sugar. If your coffee can only taste good with cream and sugar then it's shitty coffee that you're masking the disgusting flavor of by making it into a fucking milkshake.

[Anonymous No.17930062]

>>17919228
OP has a 100% higher risk of eating dicks.

[Anonymous No.17930083]

>>17926531

[Anonymous No.17930127]

>>17919228
So the coffee cancels out my tobacco usage. Very nice.

[Anonymous No.17930413]

>>17919990
Death from "I think I'll die if i don't have my coffee"

[Anonymous No.17931125]

tfw 1 gram of caffeine a day + 2 cups of black coffee

[Anonymous No.17931324]

>>17919308
Tell me how much you're enjoying that tall and juicy glass of room temperature water. I want to orgasm!

[Anonymous No.17931358]

>>17931324
>tall and juicy glass of room temperature water
i do enjoy that
not exclusively however

[Anonymous No.17931375]

>>17931358
I know what you mean and agree.

[Anonymous No.17931487]

>>17919228
>"I don't drink coffee"
>swigs 2 liter of diet coke
I wonder...

[Anonymous No.17931495]

>>17919567
First half is 100% true
2ne is retarded