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Post & discuss:
-Cigars
-Pipe Tabacco
-Cigarettes
-Snus
-Dip
-Snuff
-Chew
-Etc.

>> No.17873121
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17873121

new haul

>> No.17873187

>food & cooking

>> No.17873189

>>17873187
U mad?

>> No.17873211

>>17873096
>tabacco

>> No.17873222

>>17873211
what?

>> No.17873230

Ennerdale is good.

>> No.17873235

i dont think you can eat tobacco

>> No.17873242
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17873242

Picrel is kino

>> No.17873246

>>17873096
This post is off-topic

>> No.17873250
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>>17873246
>getting this assmad
‘bacco threads are allowed.

>> No.17873264

>>17873250
They're not food or cooking, I don't care what a trannies judgement says about it they're retarded

>> No.17873273

>>17873264
u mad

>> No.17873323 [DELETED] 

>>17873096
cringe

>>17873121
cringe

>>17873189
cringe

>>17873230
cringe

>>17873242
cringe

>>17873250
cringe

>>17873273
cringe

>> No.17874854

bump

>> No.17875028

bump

>> No.17875069
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>never could get into cigarettes
>cigars are ok but I'm picky as fuck and most of them taste like ass to me if they get just a little bit too hot, even expensive ones
>also chronic allergies so breathing smoke bothers me
>try dip
>it's fucking heavenly
what should I try next? is this the ultimate form of tobacco? also pic is the best I've found yet. Copenhagen was my favorite at first but I started to hate it. Stoker's is my goto otherwise. This is the only grizzly product I've found that I liked but it has a good tobacco flavor unlike most that taste like you have a soggy malboro in your mouth behind the fake flavoring shit they use

>> No.17875078
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17875078

TOBACCO IS THE ENEMY OF CUISINE.

>> No.17875110

This is a long shot, but does anybody live near Charlotte, NC and know where I can buy some unfiltered Lucky Strikes?

On topic of the thread, I mostly use snus nowadays. Every one in a while if I go to the fancy tobacco shop I'll get a few packs of Dunhills, either Red or Fine Cut Black. Used to like Nat Sherman's MCD before the brand got sold off and went to shit.

>> No.17875113

>>17873096
Been buying General White again recently, but cutting back. Trying to save some money.

>> No.17875125

>>17875110
JRs in Burlington might be a little far, but they used to have a ton of tobacco products.

>> No.17875136

>>17873096
fuck now I want a cigar

>> No.17875154

>>17873096
how hard is it do diy your tobacco? I'm not worried about growing but the rest. Like I think you have to ferment it and shit like green tea. I'm only really interesting in making pipe tobacco (probably the hardest one to make no less). Or maybe extracting my own nicotine (yeah I vape how could you tell aha)

>> No.17875255

>>17875069
Have you tried nasal snuff? It can be quite nice.

>> No.17875262

>>17875255
I haven't yet. I'm not sure where to find it
I'm weird about this sort of thing and don't want to order online. I'll start asking around in smoke shops

>> No.17875264

>>17875154
Depends on what you're going for. IIRC Virginia is one of the more difficult (outside of specialty stuff like perique or latakia), burley I think takes less processing, but yeah either way you need to cure and age it and other shit.

The fair trade tobacco forum has tons of info if you really want to get into it.

>> No.17875267

>>17875262
It's pretty uncommon in the US, easiest way is to order it from Europe/Britain. Although occasionally it can be found here, but there's also not much selection.

>> No.17875272

>>17875267
I see. good to know. if i can't find any i'll look for an online source

>> No.17875279

>>17873096
Do you eat or cook tobacco?

>> No.17875323

>>17875279
Cram

>> No.17875435

>>17875154
Yes you do ferment it. In Cuba they still do it the traditional way with pilons. These are left to sit in the open air with a roof over to to prevent the rain from ruining them. If the native Americans could do it with less tools you can do it. Just do some research.

>> No.17875439

>>17875279
It has been used in drinks during the world barista championship. Sometimes it's smoke is used in high end restaurants to accent dishes.

>> No.17875482

>>17875435
you know, on ck we tend to look at things like this rather simply. like "dumbfuck secluded shepherds isolated in the mountains made bomb ass cheese without any tools, how hard can it be", but in my limited experience even something as simple as sauerkraut or yoghurt isn't all that simple as it seems. let alone fermenting tobacco. there's a reason green tea is considered an art in itself.

like imagine making your own beer from scratch. it's an insane process if you think about it and it involves much more skill than we give it credit for. imagine just malting your own barley. it's insane.

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>>17875482
>sauerkraut or yoghurt isn't all that simple
Brother I ferment my own vegetables all the time. It's not hard. I didn't a little research and figured it out.

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>>17875482
I do cider with the champagne method traditional. Doing tobacco can't be overly difficult if you study it and try it a few times. Just read really high level documentation on the subject until you understand it and try it out.

>> No.17875526

>>17875496
maybe you got lucky or were well informed but my first experiences were enough to make me think "huh, this is not as brain-dead as a process as people lead you to believe", like there's a reason some people are considered experts in cheesemaking and such and there cheeses are worth their weight in gold.

my first two experiences were a jar of pickles and one of chillies, both went very very wrong. and my most recent experiences were with lactic fermentation in milk (yoghurt, cheese), and I have a new-found respect for people who do this succesfully. especially using like oldschool methods with wood barrels and such. and I understand various types of fermentation, the importance ot sterilisation, etc so I didn't go completely clueless into it either

and also I don't know one single person who can make a decent sauerkraut (even tho in Romania it's a staple), cheese, yogurt, etc. So it's a pretty rare skill.

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>>17875482
I've made sourdough bread, lacto-fermented pickles, made vanilla extract, rendered duck fat, made cultured butter, cooked dishes from michelin star restaurants. You can do tobacco.

>> No.17875537

>>17875529
yeah but how long did it take you? and how much dedcation? I have no doubt that I can do it, I definitely have the affinity for it, it's just not an overnight thing at all.

worth it? absofuckinglutely. fermentation of various types are probably the most insane and worthwile of all cookinig endeavours (along with meat preservation)

>> No.17875541

>>17875526
>my first two experiences were a jar of pickles and one of chillies, both went very very wrong
(Vegetables weight + water weight)*2.5% = salt weight. Dissolve the salt in water and add a fermentation weight to the jar to keep the vegetables from floating to the top. Leave sit in a closed jar for 7 days. Make sure to burp the jar.

>> No.17875563

>>17875541
Should be spring water so as to avoid chlorine in tap water. You can add in herbs and aromatics too too embrace the flavor. Bayleaf, garlic, coriander, black pepper corn, etc.

>> No.17875568

>>17875541
can you do a pure lactic fermentation (ie no vinegar, no pasterurisation/ boiling) on chillies?

>> No.17875583

>>17875568
Yes. The chilies in my first picture are not pasteurized. They have fermented enough to be stable, but I do keep them in the fridge since I didn't can them. I have had them last for months.

>> No.17875672

>>17875125
eyo I get my stuff there

>> No.17876175

>>17875272
I can recommend a place if you're in Ohio. Elsewhere I don't know.

>> No.17876214

>>17875526
lmao what the fuck. I just yolo'd it and everything I've made has turned out great. sauerkraut, kimchi, all manner of fermented and pickled vegetables, yogurt, kefir, cheese, sourdough, various alcohol... Shit's easy yo. Next up I'm gonna try my hand at cured meats. Can't wait to try some home made salami.

>> No.17876253

>>17876214
That's my next goal. Just moved north and I plan to hang some outside like was done in the past when it's cooler rather than modify a refrigerator. I hope more people start posting about it because there is not enough info online about our yet.

>> No.17876263

>>17876253
Enjoy this boomer tier website with much useful information: https://www.meatsandsausages.com/

>> No.17876367

>>17876263
Thanks. I have the river cottage handbook on curing meat, but I will give this a read through.

>> No.17876401

>>17875529
that bread looks amazing, well done

>> No.17876495 [DELETED] 

>>17873323
gay

>> No.17877884

>>17873096
we back baby

>> No.17877890

>>17875272
online try mr snuff

>> No.17877895

>>17875262
this guide is pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoHMGRIZWyk

>> No.17878532

>>17875110
I've recently switched to smoking almost nothing but luckies, just glad smokes are ridiculously cheap where I live(under 3$ a pack in Missouri).

>> No.17878619

>>17878532
how much does marlboros go for over there?

>> No.17878633

anyone have a site for ordering dip online from canada? I used to buy from northerner but they dont seem to ship to canada anymore

>> No.17878637

>>17873096
*tobacco
Retard.

>> No.17880190

bump

>> No.17880317

What are some good cigars for a beggienr? tips? tricks?

>> No.17880599

>>17880317
Macanudo Crystal Cafe are good starter cigars. Just learn how to properly light it and keep it lit while smoking. Don't overheat it puffing on it too often.

>> No.17880648

>>17873264
>smokelet opinions
unironically filtered

>> No.17880878

>>17880317
Odyssey Coffee, Trader Jack's dark or sunrise. I just got back into them and they were all pretty good. The odyssey just blew my socks off. It didn't have any of the pepper taste that cigars normally have so everything else about it stood out.

>> No.17880895

>>17880599
>Don't overheat it puffing on it too often.
This cannot be stressed enough.

>> No.17880921

>>17875110
Lucky strikes were gone from my area for 20 years they have been doing big marketing push in VA lately now they are back and pretty fucking cheap. I've switched from pall malls to luckies I'm never looking back.

>> No.17880934

>>17873096
I rolled and then smoked my very first cig yesterday.
Sucked and lungs still feel like shit.
Glad I don't smoke

>> No.17880953

Back on the cloves.
Djarum Bali Hai

>> No.17880965

>>17880934
let me guess you tried to use straight menthol tobacco or you suck.

>> No.17881008

>>17873096
It's tobacco you fuckin donut. Not TABAcco

>> No.17882005

bump

>> No.17882238

>>17873187
>Oops I overcooked my tobacco again and it turned to smoke

>> No.17882240
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Red Man changed their name to America's Best Chew. I'm honestly disgusted and refuse to chew it anymore. Now, all I chew is Levi Garrett and Beech-Nut which are better anyways. Fuck you Pinkerton Tobacco Company.

>> No.17882285

>>17873121
>packs with full logos and without warnings and gay photos of British teeth
Where can I still get those

>> No.17882287

>>17882240
>(((Levi Garret)))

>> No.17882311

>>17882238
happens

>> No.17882640

>>17882240
Getting triggered by racism isn't nearly as ridiculous as getting triggered by woke culture.

>> No.17882792

Had a punch clasico cigar the other day on the porch, moving out of the house with my 7 other roommates. Couldn't think of a better way to say goodbye, but it hurts bros

>> No.17884553

>>17873096
Oh great, you retards are back

>> No.17885101

>>17884553
seethe

>> No.17885563

>>17873242
Classic

>> No.17885796
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i prefer vaping

>> No.17887228

luv me 'bacco
simple as

>> No.17887358
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Hand-rolled 5 Brothers blended with 3 Sails.

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i roll this thick and without filter

>> No.17887761
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17887761

Discussing tobacco seems like something teenagers do to feel cool and mature.

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17888487

>>17875279
>>17884553
>nooooooo, one single thread about something many people enjoy ingesting? but what about my fast food threads???

>> No.17888500

>>17885796
this shit is such a meme, you either get a neck beard nebulizer where you make your own coils like an autist or overpay for those shitty disosable pods

>> No.17888563

>>17873250
STOP

>> No.17888566
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cheapest way to make vape juice at home? i have a bottle of glyerin and propylene glycol already. just need a cheap source of nicotine and info on how to make vape flavoring

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I recently got back into pipe smoking for the first time in like five years and I'm having trouble getting my tobacco lit, and having it stay lit. I thought maybe it was too moist, so I've tried airing the tin for a day, and I've even tried letting the tobacco air in the pipe for a half hour or so before lighting. This is the first time I've ever had a problem with he tobacco staying lit. What am I doing wrong?

pic is of some of my ATF

>> No.17888584

>>17888583
wow you just have shit tastes in everything huh?

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>>17888584
>DDR Makarov
>shit taste

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>>17888598
you read what I said nigga, might as well melt it down for scrap.

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>>17888487
>Let me absorb my tobacco in peace!!!!

>> No.17888636

>>17888566
Just get a giant bag of cheap tobacco from a tobacco store like pic, soak it in isopropyl alcohol for a day, strain and evaporate. You now have about 8,600mg of crude nicotine oil. Use an acid/base wash if you want to purify further but the isopropyl wash should be good enough for vaping.

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>>17888636
Forgot pic

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>>17873242
>cherry flavor
No thanks.

>> No.17888678

>>17888622
>IQ of a plastic bag
.. you realise thats literally how nicotine works, right?

how else does it get into the body if its not absorbed by the lungs/gum/skin?

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>>17873096
Friend from work gave me some of his pipes for free. Really excited to try them out, but all I have are aromatic blends and I wanna get some less ghosty ones first.
>tfw tobacconist closed till the weekend cause owner got the coof

>> No.17888849

>>17888678
So now your telling me you eat nicotine through your lungs? Let me guess you voted biden..

>> No.17888886

>>17888636
This is retarded, there’s no way to control the dosage and you’ll end up giving yourself nicotine poisoning at best and dying at worst

>> No.17888932

>>17888886
I didn't say to smoke the whole thing at once retard. There are plenty of ways to measure dosage if you're not completely retarded and know basic math. The nicotine you buy on the internet is going to be even more pure than my crude product, how do you expect to measure the pure shit if you can't measure a dilution?

>> No.17888989

>>17887358
My Father-in-Law smoked this stuff, so I think he was trying to get rid of me when he gave me a pouch to try. I usually smoke Prince Albert, and E.A. Carey's blends.

When I opened the pouch, the aroma took over the environment. My cat hissed and arched her back (they really can detect evil....). All the house plants died...even the plastic ones. The room note was classic peat bog.

As I took a deep breath and filled my pipe, it was squirming in my hand, trying to get away. I should've stopped right there. It lit easily, unfortunately. After my first puff, my whole life flashed in front of my eyes...it was very depressing.... Have you ever smelled the peat that nightcrawlers are in when you buy a carton of them at a bait store? That was what this tasted and smelled like, with a little burly thrown in for camouflage. I experienced major vertigo, so it was a good thing I was sitting down. After the second puff...just before I passed out, I had visions of guys in Environmental suits placing my pipe, and this tobacco in ziplock bags, and decontaminating the house.

Seriously, this is the absolute worst...whatever it is, I have ever tried to smoke. It really does taste like worm-dirt, with some cow-chips mixed in, and smells even worse. It is strong enough to floor a Water Buffalo. I really did have to throw the pipe away, carefully....I could never get the smell or taste out of my DIplomat, even after repeated cleanings with pipe sweetener.

I could only manage a few puffs of this before putting it out. I couldn't smoke it long enough to tell if it burned hot, or not.

You should have to have a license from the EPA to even sell this stuff. I would definitely advise anyone to avoid this 'blend' at all costs, unless you are on some kind of macho-trip, or really into self-mutilation. I smoke for pleasure, and I have nothing to prove.

>> No.17889019

>>17888566
you just… buy it? they sell nicotine in pg and vg and theres entire websites for buying flavors. dont poison yourself or get a lung infection from contamination.

>> No.17889024
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>>17873121
>Being excited about smoking garbage tier mass produced cigs

>> No.17889028

>>17889024
>mass produced cigs
As opposed to boutique Latakia cigarettes?

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>>17889028
Not that guy, but American cigarettes are trash. I really wish they sold these in the US. They taste like a really smooth bowl of pipe tobacco and you don't get any burn unless you suck on them like a vacuum cleaner.

>> No.17889479

>>17882285
In the United Baseds of America.

>> No.17889495

>>17889224
Can’t you order foreign cigs into America though?

>> No.17889554

>>17889495
You can bring in a lot for personal use. I'm not sure about ordering from overseas. I had some fun 15 years ago importing some Russian and Asian cigarettes, on accident. I mean, they passed customs no problem because they were labeled as a gift item, but I didn't order them.

>> No.17889638

What’s the best ~$20 cigar cutter?

>> No.17889639
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>>17888989
A lot of manufacturers market RYO cig tobacco as "pipe tobacco" to avoid extra taxes. I'm guessing you fell into the same trap as other folks haha.

>> No.17889661

>>17889639
Based self roller

>> No.17889971

>>17889638
Just bite the bullet and buy a Xikar.

>> No.17890247

This isn't food?

>> No.17890402

>>17888989
5B is legendary. It's been around for 150+ years. It's strong burley shag with no other bullshit in it. Really good for adding strength to shag virginias in cigarettes. It matches beautifully with 3 Sails.

>> No.17891571

bump

>> No.17893127

>>17873096
Does anyone else think “La Aroma de Cuba” is intentionally misleading? The average guy who wants to get into cigars won’t know that they actually come from Nicaragua

>> No.17893191

>>17893127
God forbid someone ask about them, read the box, understand imports from Cuban are illegal, or recognize Cuban seeds were flow out of Cuba after the embargo to grow tobacco in other locations making Cuban cigars a meme.

>> No.17893204

>>17893191
gonna cry?

>> No.17893222
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>>17873096
Has anyone ever tried General Grant cigars before? I’m a pipe chad but always wanted to try a cigar, and I’ve read these are pretty good to start out with.
>inb4 BRO YOU GOTTA GET LE HECKIN CUBANS
Fuck off with that redditor shit, I’m just looking for a good noob friendly smoker that won’t destroy my wallet.

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how do you guys deal with the reduced blood flow?

>> No.17893226

>>17893224
>don’t inhale
>don’t smoke 30 bowls/cigars a day
Simple as.

>> No.17893231

>>17893222
>>inb4 BRO YOU GOTTA GET LE HECKIN CUBANS
Almost nobody in America smokes Cubans, and a lot of that is by choice since you can order them legally from Switzerland

>> No.17893324

>>17893191
Cubans are no longer illegal in the US. You can buy them in person or direct from several sites.

>> No.17893348

>>17893324
Yeah the embargo was dropped years ago

>> No.17893425

>>17893324
>>17893348
Part of the embargo was dropped under Obama. But it is still in place for large purchases.

>> No.17893907

>>17873096
What’s the name of that one cigar youtuber in his 50’s that was portly and had grey hair? He smoked that one thousand dollar Gurkha cigar. I can’t find his channel anywhere so I’m assuming he got banned or he’s dead

>> No.17893972

>>17893907
He moved to Rumble cause he said YouTube was going to ban him for monetizing tobacco. Cigar Obsession was the channel name.

>> No.17893996

>>17893231
>Almost nobody in America smokes Cubans

Right. Everyone knows this. It's one of the reasons why Cuban cigars are famous around the world. This has changed in recent years, though.

Of course, the main reason Cuban cigars are known around the world is because everyone agrees they are the best cigars on the market.

Cohiba? Cuban. Montecristo? Cuban. All the award winners? CUBAN!

Why the fuck would you be a poser about this stuff? Who do you think you're trying to fit in with? Do you also pretend you're an afficionado of mobility scooters?

>> No.17894011

>>17893996
>reddit spacing
Opinion disregarded

>> No.17894020

>>17888487
>One

>> No.17894031

>>17893972
Thanks, he was one of the few good channels I encountered. Cigars Daily is helpful when you’re starting out but his videos get redundant quickly

>> No.17894053

>>17893996
>Davidoff
>Left Cuba
>Smoked the world around

>> No.17894945

>>17880317
for me it's partagas aristocrats, super partagas, H.Upmann half corona, fonseca delicias and schizo (yes it' a brand) robusto/torpedo.
Generally speaking it's pretty easy to actually smoke, I'd recommend a cheap jet lighter to light it and taking your time to smoke it. Ideally inside or somewhere where it's not windy since it's harder to get a good even burn going outside