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Why haven't humans figured out a way to process cellulose into human-digestible foods?

Cows and sheep ferment it in their stomachs to turn it into nutrients, I figure we could replicate that process in a similar way to brewing beer. So why don't we?

>> No.17804858

>>17804840
Maybe because humans are omnivores, unlike cows and sheep. Just a wild guess.

>> No.17804861

>>17804840
Americans already put it in their cheese

>> No.17804866

>>17804861
kek

>>17804858
But like, if we turn cellulose into digestible sugars we could obviously use that to make alcohol. Or just more caloric filler.
I'm not talking about evolutionary-wise btw, just industrial food wise.

>> No.17804870

>>17804861
Yes, mass-marketed grated cheese for poor people has cellulose in it because it's not harmful to the body and works well as an anti-caking agent. If you buy a shitty product you shouldn't expect gold.

>> No.17804883

>>17804866
Ahh, I gottcha. That wouldn't be a bad idea, but I feel like until meat sources become more sparse/expensive not much research will ever be done in that way. With factory farming currently holding the market hostage right now, there isn't much desire to push that kind of research. Obliterate factory farms and it will become a much more feasible idea.

>> No.17804886

>>17804840
Because the intent is to torture and increase metaphysical and psychological suffering by making people eat things which are increasingly difficult to consume in large quantities. You can simply identify the bacteria that ferments cellulose, and splice it via CRISPR. Once your stool has it, spread it amongst the population. Now certain bloodlines have the ability to digest cellulose. Rothschilds already do this, via an alkaline diet.

>> No.17804891

>>17804886
>hurr durr retarded le joos rothschilds aliens conspiracy
meds, schizo

>> No.17804903

>>17804886
I saw that youtuber cure his lactose intolerance in a similar fashion, I wonder if we could really give our guts the ability to process cellulose. I wonder what implications that would have.

>>17804883
Yeah, seems like a dire straits sort of situation where this would be necessary. But there's a part of me that wants to be able to turn a full ass tree into many meals

>> No.17804905 [DELETED] 

>>17804840
It's probably just not worth it economically. Rice and corn are already really cheap and can be used for brewing beer without having to do that extra step.

>> No.17804917

>>17804840
It's probably just not worth it economically. Rice and corn are already really cheap. And they have to eat pounds of plant matter every day so there's just not much to make use of there in the first place.

>> No.17804928

>>17804917
>so there's just not much to make use of there in the first place
yeah, I suppose. Given the ratio of cellulose/plant matter to rice/corn, if there was a human-consumable use for it we probably would have figured it out by now.

>> No.17804934

>>17804903
>Yeah, seems like a dire straits sort of situation where this would be necessary
Big meat will always fight against this. In this fight, the vegans are actually friends. However, don't go so far as to become a vegan. Just buy your meat locally sourced from a non-factory farm. Shouldn't be hard depending on where you live. The southwest and surprisingly the midwest have a shortage of local farmers because most of the land is dedicated to deserts or industrial farms. Even so, I'm sure you can find some local meat somewhere.

>> No.17804965

>So why don't we?
We do. It's called "feeding a cow".
The whole reason farming has been successful for thousands of years is because we're able to take inedible plants, feed them to livestock, then use the live stock for nutrients.

The reason we haven't tried just cutting the cow out of the equation is because it's more efficient to just skip the human and the cow altogether. We've been doing that even longer than we've been farming by burning inedible organic matter as fuel.

If you want food, feed a cow.
If you want energy, feed a fire
Simple as.

>> No.17804978

>>17804934
>midwest
Yeh. I've found that basically anywhere outside of the midwest I can find comparably priced, locally-raised meat, but here in the midwest it's apparently a prized commodity and you gotta pay through the teeth for it.

I'm not vegetarian/vegan, but especially now at the amount I buy meat I might as well be. I just can't justify buying shitty factory garbo, or meat worth its weight in gold if it's local.

>> No.17804990

>>17804840
Humans use animals to process cellulose into tasty meat

>> No.17805002

>>17804990
>>17804965
Yes, but through thermodynamic inefficiencies that cellulose-to-human caloric conversion with the aid of animals is less efficient than a cellulose-to-bacteria caloric conversion. So I feel like there's a lot left on the table calorie-wise.

>> No.17805005

>>17804978
Yeah, it's a shame too. It's a beautiful area with great prices everywhere but the things you'd expect would be easy to get aren't so much so. A lot of the higher quality products get shipped out to the coasts leaving fuckall around. There needs to be a bigger push for locally sourced products and a fight against the factory farming that's destroying the heartland.

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17805017

>>17805002
>Yes, but through thermodynamic inefficienci-
Stop. You're completely missing the bigger picture.
Turning cellulose into food is less efficient than turning it into fuel.

That's the reason we're not doing it.

>> No.17805028

>>17805017
You're actually probably right, desu. Burn the cud.

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17805033

>>17805002
Humans also use fungus to transform cellulose (and some sugar) into tasty Chitin

>> No.17805037

>>17805033
Mushrooms are actually what made think of this and made me make this post!

>> No.17805042

>>17805002
calories aren't scarce enough to care about this

most people's problem is that they get too many calories

>> No.17805046

>>17805042
That's also a fair point. But given the sheer mass of unusable by-products over the course of human evolution I'm just surprised we haven't found a first-party use for it.

>> No.17805081

>>17805046
>I'm just surprised we haven't found a first-party use for it
We have. It's called "fire". We've been using it for eons and for really good reasons. It's so fast and efficient that it rocketed humans straight to the top of the food chain.

You're not going to find a better explanation than this.

>> No.17805092

>>17804891
Kill yourself, kike.

>> No.17805096

>>17804965
based

>> No.17805225

>>17804840
Its an inefficient way to digest. Look at how much they have to eat and the process of digesting is way more intense. The more the carnivore the simpler the digestive system.

>> No.17805232

>>17804840
because cattle would be jobless
their secret agenda is to use mankind as long as we are useful to reach other star systems

>> No.17805511

>>17805092
I replied a few other times to this thread before some retarded conspiritard called me a kike and I pretty much gave similar arguments in each post. Why didn't he reply to the others? Oh yeah, cause he's a retard.

>> No.17805691

>>17805232
Nigga no ones leaving this planet physicality

>> No.17806887

>>17804840
>>17804886
we'd need to evolve to have more stomachs first

>> No.17806925

>>17806887
Not all grass-eating herbivores have multiple stomachs, like horses.