Salt/Sodium

[Anonymous No.17779736]

What's the broscience verdict on salt/sodium these days? Is it really as unhealthy as mainstream health says it is? Basically anything over 2 grams of sodium a day is said to lead to heart disease.

[Anonymous No.17779743]

>>17779736
iodine deficiency is globohomo jewish subversiveness
>GGGGA

[Anonymous No.17779744]

>>17779736
Living in a post industrial society is plenty unhealthy as it is.

[Anonymous No.17779756]

>>17779736
I fast until 4pm every day so my sodium intake is a non issue. I'm probably deficient if anything.

[Anonymous No.17779764]

>>17779756
>fasts until 4 pm
>eats 40 mcnuggets and 2 pizzas
not so fast, fatso

[Anonymous No.17779770]

>>17779736
salts not the problem, seeds oils are

but people who eat out often are definitely eating too much salt, carbs and fat - along with the seed oils it's the perfect recipe for heart disease, there is a correlation with seed oils and type 2 diabetes as well

if seed oils went away a big chunk of health issue would probably go away too

[Anonymous No.17779775]

>>17779736
DO YOU
>eat out several times per week
no
>buy food that is canned, boxed, bagged, bottled, or jarred
no
>eat too few fruits and veggies
no
>avoid cooking meals yourself
no

[Anonymous No.17779778]

>>17779736
Yes it is super unhealthy but the effects are largely transparent when you are young. Which is most of /ck/
Keep tabs on your blood pressure. If its always in healthy range, you can probably get away with being irresponsible with sodium. But the older you get, the more its going to affect you negatively.

[Anonymous No.17779788]

>>17779764
No I eat pretty healthy. Omad fewer than 1000 cals. Unless I'm lifting then it's 1,500 cals and a bunch of eggs.

[Anonymous No.17779835]

>>17779770
Is olive oil ok? I only use extra virgin olive oil, butter and lard for frying.
I did get peanut oil once because an Asian I knew got anal about me using olive oil for stir fry.

[Anonymous No.17779844]

>>17779788
>healthy
>fewer than 1000 cals
The fuck are you a manlet?

[Anonymous No.17779850]

>>17779736
If you answer yes to any of these questions you need to get off my board stat

[Anonymous No.17779876]

>>17779844
Nope, but I do have a pretty hefty cheat meal on the weekends. I actually have a good bit of muscle and still have some excess fat and I've been doing this for like three years.

[Anonymous No.17780136]

>>17779743
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

[Anonymous No.17780161]

>>17779736
the whole salt bad thing started 400 years ago when a french doctor conjectured that his clients that ate a lot of salt had heart problems so salt bad.

the problem is that they also drank too much, ate too much, and probably had other habits that were not healthy.

but lets blame salt.

[Anonymous No.17780166]

why are they putting flouride in the salt?
i think it's dumb and retarded to use flourided salt instead of toothpaste

[Anonymous No.17780184]

>>17779736
>no
>yes
>fuck off I'm not eating a pound of fucking vegetables every day
>no
and the solution is "drinking more water"
outside of absolutely ridiculous amounts of salt intake simply drinking water regularly will flush it out of your system just fine
that or exercise to sweat it out but you can't expect that from anyone in the modern day

[Anonymous No.17780716]

>>17779736
every offering must be dealt with salt.

[Anonymous No.17780767]

>>17780136
GET YOUR BUTTS TO SAKURA-CON

[Anonymous No.17780791]

>>17780184
actually drinking too much water will result in flushing out sodium and other electrolytes, if your urine is clear, you shouldn't be drinking any liquids

drink when you're actually thirsty

[Anonymous No.17780802]

>>17780161
none of that has anything to do with sodium's effect on drawing fluid into the vasculature. Sodium ions are not inherently bad. Some French fuck 8000 years ago probably didn't understand ions and polar molecules

[Anonymous No.17780817]

>>17779876
theres no way youre gaining or even maintaining muscle with 1500cal a day

[Anonymous No.17780864]

>>17780184
>and the solution is "drinking more water"
Your body doesn't immediately flush out the extra salt as soon as you drink some water. During the time that your body is processing it, the salt can still be having a negative effect on you. That doesn't mean adding salt is always bad, especially with plant foods since most of them have very little to no sodium at all and you do need some for optimal health. But that doesn't mean it can't be beneficial to consume less salt, especially since a lot of people eat too much premade food that's usually very high in salt.

[Anonymous No.17781380]

>>17779770
This graph makes it look like humans are consuming too much fat in general, and seed oils are typically a proxy for ultra processed junk

[Anonymous No.17781401]

>>17779736
>Eat out several times a week
Maybe twice a week at most
>Buy cans, boxed, bagged, bottled, or jarred
Yes to all
>Eat too few fruits and veggies
I don't eat them at all
>Avoid cooking meals yourself
As if I couldn't dump salt into food myself

[Anonymous No.17781671]

>>17779770
>heart death down
>veg oil up
olive oilchuds how do we counter this...

[Anonymous No.17781737]

Just don’t eat out. Simple as

I pour entire boxes of old bay on every dish I eat

[Anonymous No.17781766]

>>17781671
the dip at the end of the graph marks the introduction of statin drugs and other medial interventions, like valve replacement surgeries and stints

[Anonymous No.17781770]

>>17779736
why would a salt shaker be advocating for this

[Anonymous No.17781821]

>>17781770
What chu mean?

[Anonymous No.17781831]

>>17779736
I'm so far from having a fuck to give that it's honestly quite hilarious.

[Anonymous No.17781832]

>>17779775
Bullshit you lying faggot.

[Anonymous No.17781896]

Take the Salt Pill

How to Heal Disease With Salt: The Forgotten Wisdom of the Ancient Mariners
https://archive.org/details/how-to-heal-disease-with-salt/page/n3/mode/2up

Salt: The Answer To Everything
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/343849683/#q343849683

[Anonymous No.17781908]

If I don't eat a fuck ton of salt every day I get dizzy

[Anonymous No.17781913]

>>17781770
he doesn't want to get eaten duh

[Anonymous No.17781919]

>>17781913

[Anonymous No.17781926]

>>17779736
From what I've read in the brosphere, the sodium/potassium ratio is more important than absolute sodium intake. The vast majority of people are not getting enough potassium, so they're getting too much sodium by ratio. Therefore, eating less salt is not quite the solution, but the salt shaker guy is still mostly right even if he's not telling the whole story: you should eat plenty of vegetables (good source of potassium) and avoid processed foods (usually very high in sodium), but if you eat a healthy diet with mostly whole foods you don't really have to worry about it.

[Anonymous No.17781935]

>>17781913
sound more like he doesn't want to be loved anon

[Anonymous No.17782060]

>>17779736
>at least one pound of fruit and vegs a day

lolowut, I'm not even sure I eat a complete pound of food in a day

[Anonymous No.17782072]

>>17781926
>sodium/potassium ratio
sodium/potassium/magnesium/water to be more specific as thats your electrolyte balance

[Anonymous No.17782245]

>>17781380
Yeah, I love that graph for not really showing what people say it shows. The two lines they're comparing aren't even that correlative.

Also, a big thing that's rarely discussed is is that factors like that are multi-causal. So, cancer and heart disease are things that happen to you if you live long enough. People started living longer, analysis got better, so numbers go up. Diet is important, but genetics are probably more so beyond not being grossly unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.17782252]

[Anonymous No.17782266]

>>17779736
>Hyponatremia is a low sodium concentration in the blood
>Mild symptoms include a decreased ability to think, headaches, nausea, and poor balance.
>Severe symptoms include confusion, seizures, and coma
>Hyponatremia is the most common type of electrolyte imbalance

[Anonymous No.17782285]

>>17782245
Oh, also, the best somewhat subtle problem with that graph. The consumption axis is per Capita. The heart disease deaths are raw deaths. So, it doesn't also show that the population increases 5x-6x times during that time period. If they did, the increase in heart disease deaths becomes much flatter. Though, not entirely flat.

[Anonymous No.17782286]

[Anonymous No.17782605]

>>17779736
>No
>Yes
>No
>No

[Anonymous No.17782712]

>>17782245
This is true for certain cancers but not others. Some are effecting younger and younger people, and at increasingly greater rates. I only know this because I have lung cancer at 35 and never smoked in my life, and apparently the type I have is becoming more common and doctors have no idea why. I'm sure it's due to the awful standards we've imposed on ourselves, but this is most certainly not a natural occurrence.

[Anonymous No.17782802]

>>17779835
You gucci broski. If you want a pufa free neutral oil, can try coconut oil (triple filtered for no coconut flavour) or avocado oil as well. Olive oil isn’t ideal for stir frying due to low smoke point, gets very acrid in flavour after being exposed to high heat

[Anonymous No.17782889]

>>17779736
What's that funny little fellow pointing at?
lmao

[Anonymous No.17784023]

>>17780161
>400 years ago
>ate too much
I call bullshit

[Anonymous No.17784134]

>>17779736
Salt is fine if you drink water. If you drink crap and eat salt all day its bad for you.

[Anonymous No.17784148]

>>17779756
but what time do you STOP eating? like you start eating at 4pm, when is the cutoff?
i enjoy fasting buy have found that my body wants to devour more calories before the cut off time and its "too late"

[Anonymous No.17784153]

>>17780166
i derive from salt solely from the blood of animals and maskoids