Induction pan

[Anonymous No.17778244]

I bought a set of three induction pans and one of them doesn't work. When I have one of the working pans on the stove then immediately switch to the broken one, it still heats up, but it doesn't heat up on its own when I put it directly on the induction stove. Can it be fixed?
It's not dirty or anything by the way

[Anonymous No.17778251]

How the fuck does a pan not induct? It's just metal. Why the fuck did you buy induction pans? They work with anything that isn't glass. Is one of your induction pans glass anon?

[Anonymous No.17778480]

>>17778251
I don't know man, it's metal too, but it doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.17778938]

bump

[Anonymous No.17778942]

>teflon shit
Your stove knows you're retarded and is trying to save you.

[Anonymous No.17778956]

>>17778244
is that the smallest one?
some induction hobs struggle to recognize pans if the diameter is too small

[Anonymous No.17778993]

>>17778251
I hope you are trolling.
>>17778244
Check if a magnet sticks to the bottom of the pan. If it doesn’t your pan is not induction compatible, probably because it is made of aluminium only or something.

[Anonymous No.17779010]

>>17778244
imagine being so cucked as to use induction heat, even coilfags are superior to you

[Anonymous No.17779027]

>>17778956
The smallest one is 20cm but the stove manual says the limit is 10cm so it should be fine
>>17778993
I bought a pack of 3 pans, the other two bigger ones work fine. The third one isn't damaged or anything

[Anonymous No.17779057]

>>17779027
Also I got a 20cm pan bought separately that works fine so it doesn't seem to be a size problem

[Anonymous No.17779081]

>>17779027
so return them, dipshit. get real pans not made of aluminium and plastic

[Anonymous No.17779112]

>>17779081
They're not plastic. I used them already, assembled them and threw away the packaging so I can't return them
I just don't understand why an aluminium induction pan would not work on an induction stove, what could be the problem

[Anonymous No.17779223]

>>17779112
your lack of education maybe. aluminium is not magnetic. the reason some work is because they have a core inside that is. the one you have probably has a core that is too thin so your stove doesn't detect it and turns itself off. btw teflon is msde of a plastic polymer

[Anonymous No.17779670]

How do induction stoves "recognize" compatible pans/pots? I know induction creates an electric current in the cooking ware, and the resistance of the cooking ware heats it up. This isn't magic, the stove can just produce the field, and if you put a plastic pot on it, simply nothing should happen. Why this "recognition" thing? Why can't the induction stove just create the magnetic field (which has to be alternating of course) and be done with it?

[Anonymous No.17779704]

>>17779670
ah the age old question first asked by the Insane Clown Posse in their thirst for knowledge

[Anonymous No.17779714]

FUCKIN MAGNET
HOW DO THEY WORK

[Anonymous No.17779759]

>Panasonic Corporation in 2009 developed a consumer induction cooker that uses a higher-frequency magnetic field of 60 khz or higher, and a different oscillator circuit design, to allow use with non-ferrous metals as well including aluminum, multilayer and copper pots and pans.[19][20]
Why is this not standard?

[Anonymous No.17779780]

>>17778993
Eddy currents work just fine with non-ferrous metals. Do you think generator windings are all done with steel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j2d8HjgY2k

[Anonymous No.17780055]

>>17779780
I take it you have direct experience with pure aluminium pans working on induction cooktops then?

[Anonymous No.17780072]

>>17779670
There is a hall effect sensor in the base which is wired to a SBM in the handle which uses BLE to negotiate the DRM in the cooktop

[Anonymous No.17780165]

>>17780055
I know enough about electricity to know that induction heating and aluminum are compatible. I don't know what the Jews did to your stoves but this isn't a physics thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9ZK_Hs99FU

[Anonymous No.17780178]

>>17779670
You don't need ferromagnetic materials to create a current via induction. Any conductor will do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7tIi71-AjA
t. electrical engineer

[Anonymous No.17780182]

>>17780178
I already showed them the magnet in a pipe eddy current demonstration. I don't think they have enough brain folds to get it.

[Anonymous No.17780191]

>>17780178
You didn't actually answer the question.

>>17780182
OK, now explain the skin effect and why it matters here.

[Anonymous No.17780199]

>>17780191
>now explain the skin effect
You seem to know a lot about (fore)skins so why don't you explain it? Yeah I'm saying you are an expert at inspecting dicks.

[Anonymous No.17780209]

>>17780199
That's just the level of a reply I expected from you.

[Anonymous No.17780220]

>>17780209
That's the reply you get for talking out of your ass. You've got 3 different examples in this thread of induction working with non-ferrous metals. Burden of proof is on you here buddy.

[Anonymous No.17780239]

>>17780220
>metal can burn
>so I can fire my oven with steel rods
Talking to a retard like you isn't worth anyone's time.

[Anonymous No.17780240]

>>17780182
sorry, I didn't see your posts
>>17780191
I imagine it recognizes pots and pans the same way metal detectors work and instead of making a noise it turns up the heat when a sensor picks up a returning electric field above a certain threshold.

[Anonymous No.17780536]

>>17780240
>>17778244
I was thinking the same thing. The stoves must be using some mechanism to detect the presence of a pan and for what ever reason the sensor/sensing mechanism is failing with the one specific pan OP has mentioned.

OP: I saw some musings about coating aluminum pans with CPU heat sink thermal paste to get them working with induction stoves. Though it's in the same web page that talks about magnetism being used to transfer hear so they obviously have no idea what they are talking about.

[Anonymous No.17780578]

>>17780178
>>17780182
>>17780220
ITT: engineers who have never used plain aluminium pans on their induction cooktop

[Anonymous No.17780601]

>>17780578
You are suffering from being unable to tell the difference from a practical and theoretical limit here. It's pretty obvious induction stoves reject aluminum pans but there is no obvious reason why. My guess is it's some kind of safety bullshit related to pan detection. Shitting on engineers is a pretty bad idea considering engineers designed the stoves in the first place. And you still haven't explained why you think skin effect has anything to do with this and there is no obvious reason why it would either considering it's about conduction of electricity and that's not what happens with induction heating. Or recognized that induction furnaces work fine with aluminum.

[Anonymous No.17780605]

>>17780578
Do you want me to apologize because I'm an engineer and can afford stainless steel pans? Sorry I'm not poor.

[Anonymous No.17780618]

a good engineer would know aluminum only has 40% of the field effect of ferrous metals like steel, it's likely the stovetop will not operate unless it's inverse field has enough resistance from the pan

[Anonymous No.17780624]

>>17780601
>considering it's about conduction of electricity and that's not what happens with induction heating.
Fucking lol. Do you even know what induction fucking is?

[Anonymous No.17780625]

>>17780605
Oddly there are people complaining induction stoves don't work with their stainless cookware too but it's not as consistent a failure as aluminum.

[Anonymous No.17780626]

>>17780601
Not skin effect guy, just the original guy who said that the plain aluminium pans won’t work. You seem to be unable to tell the difference between a practical useful answer and a useless theoretical one. OP wanted to know what why his pan wasn’t working. I told them it was probably due to the pan not being ferromagnetic and gave them as easy way to check. You on the other hand chose to say that there is no reason why aluminium pans shouldn’t work on induction and only now admit that they don’t, at least not necessarily.
I wasn’t shitting on engineers, merely your response which was entirely unhelpful to OP.

[Anonymous No.17780647]

>>17780624
>Do you even know what induction fucking is
Induction is when a moving magnetic field causes the generation of electricity inside a conductor. The magnetic field permeates the entire pan which generates electricity through the entire material then immediately shorts out causing resistive heating. The current does not travel so the skin effect is not applicable here. There's no transmission of electricity.

[Anonymous No.17780648]

>>17780625
I was more concerned with learning how to make the power and get it from the plant and to the homes. I can't be expected to know how every fucking appliance works.

[Anonymous No.17780662]

>>17780647
>current does not travel
Now I want to hear your definition of current.

[Anonymous No.17780671]

>>17780625
lot's of stainless steel cookware have aluminum bases

[Anonymous No.17780732]

Looks like the answer is: aluminum and copper conduct too well to function with the frequencies available from the practical cost switching electronics available. I still don't understand what skin effect has to do with this. Perhaps our professional foreskin inspector can chime in on that one. https://cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/83851/how-to-explain-why-aluminum-wont-work-on-an-induction-stove

[Anonymous No.17780780]

>>17780732
No need, your link mentions the skin effect.

[Anonymous No.17781010]

>>17780648
Seems you were even more concerned with being a counterproductive cunt with a little bit of knowledge that made them harmful.
You don't have to know how every appliance works but you shouldn't behave like you do.

[Anonymous No.17781190]

>>17779223
>probably has a core that is too thin
Then why am I able to start heating on another pan, then switch to the broken one with no issues? It's only if I try to start cooking with the broken one that the stove doesn't recognize it