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/tea/
Fancy Teapot Edition
This thread is for discussing teas, tissanes, and other herbal infusions.
info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
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>> No.17741412

>>17741397
Had some qingzhuan in my big thermos today at work. It's always strong stuff. I sometimes boil it on the stovetop for an extra-strong brew. Anybody here like qingzhuan? Mine's from puerhshop.

>> No.17741439

>>17741412
I have tried some other hei chas but not that one. Nice to hear you are simmering it that's probably a good treatment for it.
Whats it like? I kind of got scared off of the cheap hei cha bricks but ive been curious.

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17741504

>>17741412
What kind of ratios are you using when you simmer it, i have some tea i need to try that with.
Ive been sipping on this 2009 gao jia shan from YS. It's nice but overpriced with his yearly price increases but the factory is great and i would reccommend checking out any of their hei cha productions.
Anyway i haven't tried simmering it yet and it's good and stemmy so i probably should, i was thinking something like 10g to 1.5 litre

>> No.17741717

>>17741412
>Anybody here like qingzhuan?
yes i do, its not a very common tea and i wish more of it was available to the west. to bad it takes forever to open up if you want to gongfu it (I "pre-steep" in a bit of water it for 30 minutes). its definitely a tea that is intended for simmering but it still works quite well gongfu if you have the patience to get it started. i am sure it would work nicely grandpa style as well.

>>17741439
>Whats it like?
both the qingzuan productions i have tried had a unique buttery floral flavor characteristic to them and were easy on the stomach. they remind me very loosely of aged fujian white tea in that regard but are still very distinct and you would not likely confuse the two.

>> No.17741730

>>17741717
>both the qingzuan productions i have tried had a unique buttery floral flavor characteristic to them and were easy on the stomach.
Nice, i will have to see if i can scare some up.

>> No.17741768

>>17741730
these are what i had bought:
https://www.chawangshop.com/hei-cha/hubei-hei-cha/2009-hubei-zhao-li-qiao-tf-te-zhi-zhuan-cha-258g.html
https://www.chawangshop.com/hei-cha/hubei-hei-cha/2012-dong-zhuang-qing-zhuan-tea-200g.html
chawangshop used to have a good selection but are all sold out. my plan was to beg him to get some more in stock when i start running out.

puerhshop has a younger version. perhaps the other anon can tell us what it is like? i may pick some of this up at some point.
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1042

onerivertea also sells some as part of a sampler pack but i suspect it has a ton of markup on it. they also don't show exactly productions you get. they have an interesting write up on qingzhuan though.
https://onerivertea.com/collections/the-dark-river/products/dark-tea-sampler-patron-teabox-left-overs

>> No.17741870

>>17741439
>>17741504
When I said it was strong, I meant that it gave me a bit of a jolt when tasting it. Strong, woody taste and thickness to it. Great for a winter morning, honestly. Reminded me of older white teas, too.

>> No.17742711

>>17741768
Thanks anon,
Trying yo get chanwang to restock seems like a good idea. I also think ive seen a bit elsewhere, maybe i can find it.

>> No.17742713

>>17739381
Nice. Do you gongfu the jiaogulan? Thinking of getting some with my next order.

>> No.17742799
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17742799

>>17741768
>>17741870
Found the website of one of the big factories, might be worth seeing what their taobao store looks like and seeing if its worth it to order directly. They look to have been trying some upmarket productions in recent years in keeping with the demand for cleaner less stemmy fu bricks and generally more premium hei cha.
http://www.brick-tea.com/

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17742824

>>17742799
If I'm reading this right it looks like that factory also has maby older productions they are selling, i need to check this out on my desktop later.

>> No.17742829
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17742829

>>17742824
Yes, i need the 6.6 kilo round brick
That must be some dense tea, it doesn't even look that big

>> No.17743436

>>17742799
here is another manufacture's site
http://www.dztea.com.cn/

this site sells some but is kind of sketch
https://www.chinateawholesale.com/search-results?q=Qing+Zhuan

also watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyh3YeP1lvk

>> No.17743447

>>17742829
How is it shiny, did they soak it in gelatin or something?

>> No.17743464

>>17743447
The press might be heated or something. It might also have to do with the ways the leaves are processed

>> No.17743482

does anyone know of any good tea shops around Atlanta GA?

>> No.17743485

>>17743482
Yeah

>> No.17743493

>>17743485
neat :)

>> No.17743596

>>17742829
arent these decorative? i think theyre made from like tea dust and glued together, especially this one
http://www.brick-tea.com/product_636.html

>> No.17743601

>>17743482
Zentea looks only mildly depressing
https://zenteaco.com/loose-leaf/

>> No.17743625

>>17743596
yeah some of them look very much decorative, like these ones that come in wooden frames
http://www.brick-tea.com/product_636.html
I would focus on their other subbrands that have tea that is more clearly for drinking.
like so
http://brick-tea.com/product_638.html

>> No.17743782

>>17743601
I think I might just buy the spring sampler off of Yunnan Sourcing

>> No.17743818

>>17743782
Sorry i didn't get the chance to look more, Lots of teahouses in Atlanta that are more afternoon pastry places then teashops, and of course lots of places that mostly sell flavored stuff.
The ys sampler is probably a decent bet

>> No.17743947

Has anyone else tried adding sugar to tea? Way better.

>> No.17743958

>>17743818

>> No.17744007
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Damn my man on chawang shop has the most reasonable sounding Mongolian milk tea recipe ive seen so far.
Sounds like it would be strong stuff but i think it would work. It kinda depends on what percentage of those older hubei bricks are stems and big leaves. They don't look quite as nasty as the Tibetan kang bricks but maybe the high compression and shiny surface just makes them look better.

>> No.17744127

Fullchea finally has their 2022 teas in, so I'm looking to place an order. First time ordering tea from china, so that's exciting. If anyone here who, unlike me, actually knows about these teas could check my current picks and tell me if any are garbage, I'd really appreciate that.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/taetea-yunnan-puer-tuo-tea-2018-v93-shu-puer-tuocha-100g-p0592.html
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/-p0588.html
These white and pu'er cakes I saw being recommended in previous threads, so I'm assuming they should be allright.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/longjing-green-tea-chinese-organic-food-dragon-well-tea-long-jing-tea-250g-bag-aaa-chinese-beat-green-tea-organic-tea-online-p0067.html
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/150g-taiwan-milk-oolong-tea-aaaaa-chinese-food-high-mountain-jin-xuan-oolong-green-tea-milk-flavor-fragrant-and-mellow-taste-best-oolong-tea-p0058.html
These I'm really not sure about. I know I want a longjing and an oolong, since I've heard good things about longjing green tea and I've just straight up never had an oolong before. But I don't know enough to seperate the good from the bad, so I just sorted by popular and picked 2 near the top.

>> No.17744129

>>17741397
Tea is gay

>> No.17744154

>>17744129
Then I love slurping big long cocks

>> No.17744177

>>17744127
They are all garbage, you get what you pay for. This v93 is also too young to be any good.
On fullchea sort by the price.

>> No.17744289

>>17744127
V93 should be fine, like i said before ive heard it's a better year than some previous batches and it's old enough for ripe.
Gimme a second to go through the rest

>> No.17744314

>>17744127
>>17744289
I think this dragonwell is a safer buy, you obviously get less for the money but it should be a much higher tier product.
I don't really encourage you to get milk oolong, it has flavoring added to it and it can taste pretty weird if it's not well made.
Instead i would recommend a tieguyanyin, it should give you those creamy flavor profiles you are looking for, the russians seem to love this one.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/250g-top-chinese-anxi-tieguanyin-green-tea-oolong-tie-guan-yin-1725-gold-gui-weight-loss-china-green-food-slimming-teas-gift-best-oolong-tea-p0034.html
The white tea you posted seems fine, it's not going to be a super fancy production but it should be a pleasing and soft tea. Good for cold brewing and simmering pots of on the stove along with the normal brew methods.
Cheers anon

>> No.17744320

>>17744314
Whoops forgot to link the dragonswell
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2020-green-chinese-tea-dragon-well-top-grade-portable-packing-organic-new-dragon-well-100g-p0719.html

>> No.17744559

>>17744289
>>17744314
>>17744320
Thanks bro, I appreciate the help. I've switched out the oolong and the longjing for the ones you mentioned.
>The white tea you posted seems fine, it's not going to be a super fancy production but it should be a pleasing and soft tea.
Pleasing and soft sounds what I'm going for, I tend to like teas that are mellow more than teas that are in your face. Though if you've got white tea recommendations, I'm more than happy to consider those.
Also, a question that's somewhat related, What's a good size gaiwan for single person infusions? I've currently got a simple white ceramic one bookmarked that comes in 110ml or 130ml, which I think is about right?

>> No.17744598

>>17744559
I think that white tea is good, it has some reviews in English i think one of them is from one of the posters here.
For a gaiwan 100ml of usable space, which is something like 120ml to to top is ideal. No more than 120ml of usable space. The Chinese vendors frequently list capacity by total volume and not usable volume which can make things a bit confusing but somewhere in that range of 100-120 is good. Smaller can be a bit small, larger requires a whole lot of tea at once.

>> No.17745362

what's the untimate old man tea? Ripe puer? Roasted oolong?

>> No.17745388

>>17745362
Both of those desu. Or lio bao. Drink it out of a porcelain mug, grandpa-style.

>> No.17745529

>>17745388
>Or lio bao
Yeah that's a good choice too

>> No.17746028
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17746028

What tea should I drink if I want to LARP as a Chinese aristocrat?

>> No.17746484

>>17746028
yorkshire tea bags

>> No.17747239

Should I rinse loose tea leaves in cold water before pouring on hot water? I'm thinking it might be good if it has pesticide residue on it or something.

>> No.17747591

>>17747239
Yeah knock yourself out.

>> No.17747595

>>17747591
Do you do it?

>> No.17747606

>>17747595
Sometimes. Every once in a while I'll even warm that rinse water up.

>> No.17747612

>>17747606
So you're not doing it to clean it but some other reason? Otherwise you wouldn't use the rinse water obviously.

>> No.17747633

>>17747612
Do you generally clean yourself in warm or cold water?

>> No.17747662

>>17747633
Nevermind I googled it.

>> No.17748007

>>17745362
Hojicha

>> No.17748015

>>17748007
This is another good call, bonus point for low caffeine content

>> No.17748027
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17748027

How often do you wash your gaiwan?
Lately ive just been rinsing mine out between uses, should i be scrubbing it with a sponge or magic eraser more often?
Pic is this mornings 2011 xiaguan bulang something something. It's pretty good

>> No.17748247

>>17748027
never, i only wipe my tea cup out once its very stained

>> No.17748428

>>17748247
Yeah that's what i figured.
I haven't really gotten any buildup of staining so i haven't worried about it

>> No.17748955

Any US online stores that are "good enough"? I don't want to go through import autism yet.

>> No.17749012

>>17748955
Yes there is a whole list of them in the pastebin in the OP Yunnansourcing.Us is a common recommendation, they have already sold out of most of their first shipment of spring 2022 teas but should be restocking soon, check them and some of the other listed vendors

>> No.17749044

>>17748955
I liked Upton Tea quite a bit when I ordered from them. Their assam is really excellent.

>> No.17749125

>>17748955
Purple Cloud Best Cloud.

>> No.17749418

>>17749044
That was actually the shop I found to have the best selection after >>17749012 recommended the pastebin. Any particular assam you liked?

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17749779

Have you ever tried pic rel, brewing tea with ice?

>> No.17749968 [DELETED] 

>>17748955
Puershop.com
Been meaning to shill a couple affordable options I got from them recently. Pictures eventually maybe if I ever get around to it.
But the $10 for 330g Hunan Baishaxi Special Fu Zhuan Cha Brick, is blowing me away.
First Fu brick and I got it on a whim, it's fairly light in gold flowers but they are there.
Flavors are wild.

>> No.17749974

>>17748955
www.Puerhshop.com
Been meaning to shill a couple affordable options I got from them recently. Pictures eventually maybe if I ever get around to it.
But the $10 for 330g Hunan Baishaxi Special Fu Zhuan Cha Brick, is blowing me away.
First Fu brick and I got it on a whim, it's fairly light in gold flowers but they are there.
Flavors are wild.

>> No.17749983

>>17749418
Whatever their best seller is/was

>> No.17750034

>>17749779
I tried gyokuro that way. It's okay.

>> No.17750115

>>17749974
The 2006 ripe dragon egg puer toucha is fantastic for a cheap toucha, loads of chocolate flavor.
Puershop is an interesting store, he has some great teas at fantastic 10 years ago prices. And he also has a bunch of really mediocre tea, from what ive heard (and the samples ive gotten) his how brands zenpuer and american hao / mgh cakes seem to be pretty lame, but there are some real jems in his other stock if you don't mind putting some effort in to search for them. Also the storage is dry as hell.
Try a sample of this too
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&path=42_44&product_id=644

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17750245

>I am not at all interested in immortality, only the taste of tea

>> No.17750389

I tried a green tea/ashwagandha blend that I got in a sampler today.
It was truly disgusting. Not recommended.

>> No.17750485

>>17750389
Did it make you trip?

>> No.17750544

>>17743482
There are some tea shops in like Duluth where you can drink Pu'er with your ice cream like Snowflake, but I know of no good places ITP or OTP for good loose Chinese tea like you would see here.

>> No.17750559

>>17743601
Not worth your time.

>> No.17750802

>>17749974
>>17750115
Yeah, throw together some stuff you'd recommend if you don't mind. At these prices it seems worth chucking in an order. How was shipping etc.?

>> No.17751201

>>17750802
These liubao bricks are nice, chocolaty and bitter without much again on them but i enjoyed them
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&path=35&product_id=232
Maybe one of these
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&path=9_22&product_id=336
The dragon egg,
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&path=9_24&product_id=382
The sample i linked in my last post
Beyond that consider sampling some of the other old stuff, look for teas that say they pass pesticide testing because that makes their origin a bit more interesting. Stay away from his house stuff and look for some teas you find interesting. I don't want to give away all my secrets :)
His shipping has been reasonably quick, in the mail within a few business days at most and then as fast as USPS goes.
Remember most tea is really green,
As a bonus here are a few ive noticed but haven't tried yet
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&path=3_11&product_id=333
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&path=3_12&product_id=3
https://www.puerhshop.com/new/index.php?route=product/product&path=3_13&product_id=330

>> No.17751209

I've never purchased a clay teapot before. Is there a reason to choose a smaller pot over a larger pot?

>> No.17751267

>>17751209
Assuming we are talking chinese clay teapots
Yes, if you use a 200ml claypot for gongfu brewing you will need 14g of tea for each session. That's a lot of tea.
I think around 100ml is the sweetspot.
There is a ton of stuff in the pastebin about Chinese yixing clay teapots and i mostly would suggest not buying one unless you are willing to spend $100+ on one. Mud and Leaves, some of the pots from purple cloud teahouse and essence of tea are the three stores i would recommend looking at.
For Japanese clay pots i think you would normally use a larger size, at least for Japanese teas, and they are more affordable but i cant tell you a ton about them.

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17751553

what's a good but inexpensive tea to buy in bulk to make big pitchers of iced tea with?

>> No.17751676

>>17751553
Depends on what you like,
Upton tea has the java BOP tea which they say is good foe iced tea, they also have a bunch of other affordable options but i would make sure you sample a tea before you order half a kilo of it from them.
This is a descent choice but you might not consider it cheap, malty
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2019-yunnan-old-tree-black-tea-dianhong-feng-qing-red-tea-cake-357g-p0593.html
The Russians also like this it's probably on the sweeter side
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2018-fenghetang-yunnan-black-tea-dianhong-maofeng-500g-p0325.html
Some of the cheaper teas from vahdamn might be good too the dailh assam and maybe the unitea blend

>> No.17751907

>>17751676
when you make iced tea, do you do cold brew? the way I make a single cup is to brew with half as much water to make a concentrate, then add ice to cool and dilute it. works great for a single cup, but maybe doing an entire pitcher's worth might come out too astringent

>> No.17751916

>>17744127
>>17744314
They say their milk oolong is natural with no added flavour and after ordering it last year I am inclined to believe them, I haven't had milk oolong from another source natural or unflavoured but my hunch is that this is the unflavoured stuff. It is nice cold brewed and has no noticeable residue.

>> No.17752136
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17752136

Where can I find a tea with notes of agarwood? The source of this simply says it can be found in aged teas of high quality.

>> No.17752655

I just plop two kroger brand green teas in a cup and don't remove the tea bags until I've finished the drink. Good stuff!

>> No.17753197

Is the chinese tea = lead poisoning thing true?

>> No.17753746

Is Genmaicha supposed to just taste of rice, or do I just have shit tea?

>> No.17753857

>>17752136
That's tough, as someone who burns agarwood and drinks old tea i see what they are saying but i can't point you in the direction of anything specific.
Try a bunch of old tea from yee on tea, see where that gets you

>> No.17754638

>>17753197
yes and no
yes, the tea plat will bioaccumulate heavy metals and some tea has more lead than ideal.
no, tea consumption not generally considered to be a significant source of lead intake.
China is probably worse in this regard but i don't there is cause to worry too much. honestly i am more concerned about the potential pesticide exposure from the tea.

>> No.17754708

Any britbongs tried the matcha from what cha? I want to quit the roasted bean jew.

>> No.17754784

>>17752136
What tea will make me feel like I'm drinking volcanic stones?

>> No.17754826

woody shu puer and runescape again...

>> No.17754908

>>17750544
Yeah the only place I'd imagine you could find anything similar to what's here is around Buford highway and I bet it's tucked away somewhere probably not even on Google maps

>> No.17754932

>>17751907
for some tea cold brewing brings out different flavors than what you might get from a normal brew

>> No.17754960

>>17753746
genmaicha in origin is a poor man's tea. the rice is added to combine with the tea and make it taste better. because of the origin of the tea the toasted rice is sort of meant to overpower the tea. your tea is probably fine.

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17754968

>>17754826
Comfy.

>> No.17755011
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17755011

Today I found out that tea bags aren't popular in America because of lazy consumerism, but because loose leaf tea was considered unpatriotic after the revolution. Was bagged tea secretly based the whole time?

>> No.17755022

>>17755011
>Was bagged tea secretly based the whole time?
No

>> No.17755111

>>17755011
>Today I found out that tea bags aren't popular in America because of lazy consumerism, but because loose leaf tea was considered unpatriotic after the revolution.
there was more than a century between the American revolution and the invention of the teabag.

>> No.17755124

>>17755111
FUCK.
Nice digits though.

>> No.17755221

How do i profit from tea? Everyone says coffe and doughnuts, but tea and ............ is better.

>> No.17755234

>>17755221
Become shrewd in the ways of dealing with chinamen, spend 4 months of the year in china buying tea and developing relationships with dealers and farmers. Become wise to their crafty ways and learn how to buy good tea. Get a following in the west selling good tea.
Or alternatively just be a creepy guru that convinces gullible Westerners that you are selling them some kind of spiritual tea experience and then get them to buy lots of overpriced tea from you along with maybe crystials and other assorted woo.

>> No.17755265

Iced barley is so good. Fuck hot weather

>> No.17755268

>>17755234
I'm trying to avoid anything with China, isn't there somewhere else that grows tea? Apparently alot of Chinese soil is contaminated from being the worlds plastic and textile goods manufacturer. My goal is to have an online shop selling herbal, ecological and health/body related products, but i have a food van and everyone says coffee and doughnuts
but what can i do with tea? Hqve like a fancy tea contraption? there is alot of success stories with people starting with selling tea imported from China. I think Lipton owns a litteral plantation in Africa who grows their tea.

>> No.17755293

>>17755268
There is tea from other places, japan, india, Ceylon, but not the same kind of opportunities to buy from small time rural farms that exists in china.
Anyway just buy herbal tea from mountain rose herbs and resell it.

>> No.17755305

>>17755268
china sells some of the best tea, you are really cucking your tea experience by not trying chinese tea especially if you're new. if you're scared of contaminants then buy from higher end gardens with older trees (which is mostly just made into puer tea i think), the owners of those are usually much more serious about not using pesticide and that stuff.

>> No.17755419

>>17755293
Good to know, i am on their website now and it is very good.

>>17755293
>>17755305
Does anyone know if black tea is the original tea and is it supposed to have milk added? Because this is the standard practice where I'm from. Green and white teas just don't have the kick I'm looking for, i want old fashioned english tea really i think, but nothing too strong with smoked flavours or anything like that, just classic black tea.

>> No.17755429

>>17755265
Recipe?

>> No.17755957

Bogpill me on tamaryokucha

>> No.17755989

>>17755957
It's Japanese green tea, it tastes like most Japanese green teas except slightly different maybe. It's also supposed to be early spring harvest only and it's probably pricey.

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>>17755419
>is the original tea
That would be green tea. Also, chewing on the leaf or making it into powder are older than current brewing methods (unless you currently use matcha).
>is it supposed to have milk added?
God didn't supply every tea plant with a cow next to it, no. It's a plant that developed caffeine as a pesticide, it's not "supposed to" be a drink whatsoever.
Less pedantically, the original tea drink didn't have milk in it either.

>> No.17756148

>>17756132
Chewing tea leaves is where its at

>> No.17756158

Why aren't non-green teas made into matcha very often

>> No.17756169

>>17756158
It's becoming more common than it used to be, but i don't know if you can find it made out of nice quality teas

>> No.17756172
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17756172

H*CK YEAH

>> No.17756175

>>17756172
Orange peoke power

>> No.17756220
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These are some fine looking leaves despite being shipped in a bubble wrap envelope. It's got a good strong malty aroma. Only drank one cup so far but I can safely say it rules with a splash of milk. It brews really strong. Thank you, anon who recommended it several threads ago.

>> No.17756261

>>17756220
Cheers, sounds nice

>> No.17756348

>>17752136
This is a good wheel. That LP Nannuo shou I was posting about had a very slight minerality to it after running it through the pressure brewer. Dark dark red flavorless water that may have had a rock or two sitting in it at one point.

>> No.17756435

>>17756348
Minerality is really nice in teas, one of my favorite aspects

>> No.17756699
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17756699

>Enter the tea shop
>Look around for something interesting
>A name catches my eye
>"Yea I'll have 1hg of that"
>It's one of the most expensive teas in the store
Why does this keep happening

>> No.17756838

Is pu-erh tea supposed to kind of taste like dandelion tea?

>> No.17757696

>>17756699
1hg
You mean kg?

>> No.17757701

>>17756838
I dunno what dandelion tea tastes like
Puer can taste like a whole lot of things

>> No.17757703

>>17757701
Dandelion tea tastes very thick and bitter

>> No.17757728

>>17757703
Well thick and bitter would describe some of the puer ive had, the bitterness can vary quite a bit depending on what farms the leaves are from.

>> No.17757785

>>17757696
1hg is 100g
Disregard last post it was $36

>> No.17758147

>>17757785
That's 36¢ per gram, that's a reasonably pricey tea. I hope you enjoy it anon

>> No.17758463

>>17757703
>bitter
I find dandelion to be buttery and sweet; have heard it called bitter before but I really don't experience it that way.

>> No.17758479

>>17758463
Are you talking about dandelion roots or the greens?

>> No.17758518

>>17758479
Roots (haven't had the greens)

>> No.17758556

>>17758518
That's what i figured i haven't tried them but they are usually roasted right?

>> No.17758632

>>17758556
Yeah; I think I've just had the roasted roots from MRH.

>> No.17758782

twodog is so based. Sent me a free 10th anny chabu on a $30 order.

>> No.17758797

>>17758782
How are those cheapie cakes you got? Get a chance to try em?

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>>17758797
They just got here about 30 minutes ago. Box was fucking mangled so I expected a bunch of crunched up tea in bubblewrap but I was pleasantly surprised. He also tossed in a 2022 grandpa's so I'm going to brew that up now. Doesn't look like that towel is listed on his site either.
>White2tea
>2012-2022
>Like no other
>fuck the fake fuck the fake fuck the fake

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>>17758901
Gotta give him credit for having the proper style of datecode stamp, tickles my autism

>> No.17759109

Is Sri Lankan green tea any good flavour wise? It apparently has the most EGCG.

>> No.17759130

>>17759019
No funk at all, just a mix of stewy plummy flavors. Dark stone fruit, dates etc? Maybe a little bit of honey florals. Bretty gud for a lazy breakfast brew.

>> No.17759132

>>17759109
>It apparently has the most EGCG.
Meme, even if there was some green tea from srilanka that tested the highest (against what?) YOU probably can't buy it
Can't tell you if it's good or not but don't buy it for nebulous health reason, buy it because you like green tea

>> No.17759158

>>17759130
Nice, that's a pretty solid shu combo, ranks right up there with slightly bitter chocolaty ripes.

>> No.17759238

Who has a good first flush silver needle?

>> No.17759322

>>17759238
I would consider king tea mall if/when they get 2022 silver needle in stock.
I didn't try last years but it reviewed really well and it's priced around the right rate to be a good silver needle but not high enough to be the fancy luxury gifting type. Might be worth emailing him to ask when it's coming in. You could also try seven cups if you are in the USA but they are probably priced at $1 for a similar grade to what you will get from KTM

>> No.17759325

>>17759322
>but they are probably priced at $1
*per gram

>> No.17759480

>>17756132
I have a packet of Matcha, but is it supposed to be vile and extremely bitter tasting? I have just used Matcha peder and water...

>> No.17759528

>>17759480
>is it supposed to be vile and extremely bitter tasting?
You can try brewing it with 70°c water and see if that helps.
Most "matcha" on the market is dogshit, the cheapest stale green tea ground into a powder god knows how long ago. I'm not snobby about tea but because of the massive demand for matcha right now it's pretty much pointless to buy it unless you import it from a good tea seller in japan or buy it from a local tea store that only specializes in Japanese tea and even that is a gamble.

>> No.17759575

how do i do shorter tea sessions? everytime i start a gongfu session i end up going for like 1.5-2 hours even if its not even that high quality of a tea, its the only thing keeping me from doing multiple sessions a day like i want to

>> No.17759590

>>17759528
Good info, are you a tea trader or something?

>> No.17759605

>>17759575
You could have even smaller infusions.

>> No.17759684
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Took a photo of Gorreana's tea without milk. It's very light amber, like pale ale. Made me expect it would be weak but it's one of the maltiest black teas I've tried. Minimal Lipton yard debris bin flavor. A hint of peachiness. No bitterness. Near typical assamica astringency, like 3/5. Still pleasant without milk. Would recommend to teabag drinkers.

>> No.17759731
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Just ordered nearly a kilo from Yee On Tea, I,m ready for some delicious HK storage funk from the vampires dockside warehouse.
Shipped it via it surface so it will arrive sometime in August

>> No.17759742

>>17759590
>are you a tea trader or something?
I bought some matcha from the grocery store/amazon/ my health food store and it's really bitter is a somewhat common post.

>> No.17759748

>>17759684
Color looks great anon.

>> No.17760078

>>17759605
like 80ml gaiwans? how well does that work

>> No.17760115

>>17759575
Drink faster, Get a serving pitcher and you can chug one cup while the tea in the pitcher is cooling off and more is brewing in the gaiwan, do a grampa style brew or even a western brew for the second session. Or just enjoy that you are only drinking 7g of tea a day instead of 16-20g like i have been.
>>17760078
>like 80ml gaiwans?
I find em a bit small but if your regular gaiwan is just too much tea to drink in a quick session you might find it allows you to have a faster session. It also can be good if you get a sample of some expensive tea and want to get more than one session out of it, or if it's later in the day and you don't want to drink too much tea.

>> No.17760564

>>17760078
I have a small gaiwan I fill with ~70 mL of water and I like it for tasting good tea. It doesn't feel like a lot of liquid but I can savor the flavor while still going pretty quickly if I want to, and it cuts down on how much leaf is needed. If I feel like drinking a lot of hot liquid with cheap leaves then I use a larger teapot, ~120 mL and chuck 5-6g in there while steeping for longer.

To be honest I think gong fu is way overblown, people start to get anal about having these ultra short steeps with high ratios to get the "most" out of their tea. It is true to an extent but you can do like 2.5g in a 70 mL gaiwan which is considered a "low ratio" for gong fu and still get the same level of flavor (depending on the tea). That really isn't much tleaf and it lets you enjoy the tea for a few brews without making it a 2 hour ordeal trying to use up leaves.

>> No.17760845

>>17759528
>>17759742
What do you think about culinary matcha for drinking? Obviously it pales in comparison to the good stuff, but still.
Also, where are the instant matcha packets on the ranking? I wouldn't know if they're bitter tea because they're sweetened to hell, but they taste good.

>> No.17760953

>>17760845
Depends on where you get culinary matcha, get it from one of the Japanese shops in the pastebin and it's probably better than whaver matcha powder you will find at the supermarket but still they are selling it for cooking. If you are talking about a big bag of something from amazon god knows what it's made out of. If you are trying to drink matcha for health benefits the stuff that tests so well is probably fresh and expensive.
No idea about instant matcha.
To be clear what matters is that you find tea that you can buy and enjoy drinking, im not saying all this to be snobby if you can get matcha from wherever and like it more power to you. Depending on your palette you might try a super premium version and still find it bitter. Proper brewing temperatures and preparation play a massive role in how it tastes, so make sure you are doing those things right. Try following the directions here
https://www.o-cha.com/make-matcha.html
Matcha is uniquely a hassle because so many Westerners want it for health reasons and don't want to pay the market rate for it, so other teas get ground up and sold as matcha to fill that demand.

>> No.17760960

>>17760845
Whe had another guy posting recently that was making matacha lattes with stuff from the grocery store and he said he enjoyed it. I think he was just mixing some into steamed milk

>> No.17761085

>>17749779
yes
it yields a very strong, viscous drink with heavy vegetal notes
it's interesting but i wouldn't use it with tea you like drinking warm, especially something as $$$ as gyokuro
i bought one particularly astringent tea from o-cha (struggling to remember what it was) and ended up brewing it all koridashi style

>> No.17761104

>>17760953
>im not saying all this to be snobby if you can get matcha from wherever and like it more power to you.
No, I get it, there's stuff you can't skimp on though.

>> No.17761190

>>17761104
With most tea you can get away with buying pretty damn cheap tea and have it be plenty good to drink. Matcha is kind of uniquely annoying because it's supposed to be made with a single first harvest of the years tea, they have a very labor intensive processes where they cover the tea bushes with black sheets for several weeks to block the sun before harvest that changes how it tastes. Then the production requires getting rid of half the tea they just harvested (they actually sell just the tea stems from this harvest as a different prouduct) then they pick out the older and ugly leaves, which they sell as a third different tea. Then like any spice as soon as you grind it up it starts loosing oils and flavors very quickly. So some of the vendors actually store the whole leaves refrigerated to keep them fresh and then only grind what they will sell in the next two or three weeks at a time. Then after all this the end result tastes like seaweed and green vegetable soup, which is pretty good if you are into that kind of thing, but it's not for everyone.

>> No.17761395

>>17761190
Thank you, very knowledgeable.
>With most tea you can get away with buying pretty damn cheap tea and have it be plenty good to drink.
Coming from coffee, I was surprised to see how affordable some fairly high quality teas could be. However, I also took a liking to white tea, which can get up there in price, although not as much as matcha.
>which is pretty good if you are into that kind of thing, but it's not for everyone.
Kek, although I like matcha I've had mixed results introducing it to other people. Even as a latte it's fairly different from anything the average joe drinks, although it's gone up in popularity a lot.

>> No.17761979

>>17758797
Lol fuck. Deceptively light body despite the inky red color, with way clearer minerality and sweetness than the nannuo shou. Dry finish with strong lingering hui gan. Very comfy yet energetic. Makes me think I should have overleafed the fuck out of the nannuo to amp up what little flavor I was getting. I'm more of a fan of the fruitier ripes but this is very good.

>> No.17762058
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Hi /tea/, first time poster. This was my recent order on Happy Earth after not having delved much into tea for the past few years:

>Turzum First Flush Darjeeling
This stuff is excellent. Years ago I stopped at Seven Cups and they had a first flush darjeeling from Puttabong Estate which is probably still my favorite tea. This stuff is reasonably close in profile.

>Turzum Second Flush Darjeeling
Not really feeling this one so far. I'll try again but this is nothing like the above. Is it normal for first flush and second flush to be so different? On the topic of darjeelings, what else should I check out? I'd like to try one with stronger muscatel notes.

>Himalayan Imperial Organic Nepal Black
Awesome. Really mellow and smooth. Sorry for the shitty description but that's the best I can do.

>Imperial Organic Earl Grey
Probably the best earl grey I've had. The bergamot is strong but everything is still in balance.

>Da Hong Pao Red Robe Oolong
Fantastic, very nice roasty flavor without any smokyness. Very balanced.

>Wuyi Shui Xian Organic Oolong
I don't like it. It's got an unpleasant note to it and overall reminds me of yerba mate.

>> No.17762079
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What would a tea iceberg be like? I'm a pleb so I can't make a good one but I think it would go something like
0
>Matcha lattes from Starbucks
>Lipton teabags
>Heating tea in the microwave
>Black tea
>Iced tea
1
>Loose leaf tea
>Brown betty
>Electric kettle
>Non-descript green tea for health reasons
>Chamomile to sleep
>Butterfly pea
>Rooibos
>Kombucha
2
>Gaiwan
>Cheap matcha made with a milk frother
>Misattributed Chinese wisdom quotes about tea
>Going to a tea shop
>Oolong
>Using the term tisane
>Kyusu
>Sobacha
>Suspiciously cheap Yixing
>"Actually, it's called cha in most languages"
3
>Gongfu
>Tea pets
>Reading the tea classics
>Puer
>Shiboridashi
>Gyokuro
>Silver Needle
>High mountain oolong
>First flush
>Yerba mate
>Making matcha with a whisk
>Aesthetically pleasing tea towels
4
>Actually learning Chinese or Japanese
>Incense pairings
>Flower arrangement pairings
>Chado
>Factory 1 teapot collection
>Real yellow tea
>Pronouncing puer correctly
>Silver or cast iron kettle
>Bhutanese tea
>Kenyan tea
>Tokiname-yaki
>Ruyao
>Charcoal stove
>Camellia sinensis bonsai
>Playing guqin
5
>Colonizing China again
>Scholar rock pairings
>Ironic usage of lipton teabags
>Boiling water with an enameled tetsubin on purpose
>Intentionally seeking out tea with high levels of lead for the flavor
>Puer from Mao's private stash
>Becoming a Taoist monk
>Actually buying real dahongpao
>ナチス月面基地茶 (do not research)
>Drinking water from Boston harbor
>Scuba diving for 天青泥
>Frisian tea ceremony

>> No.17762108

>>17755221
It's tea and biscuits... how has nobody heard this?

>> No.17762199

>>17762108
Even Anglophiles in burgerland don't seem to engage with Bongolese tea culture beyond making earl grey and collecting elaborately decorated tea sets. Too much effort for casual drinkers, while enthusiasts are more interested in how they do things in east Asia.

>> No.17762334

>>17760564
I agree on gongfu being a bit overrated. I think it's often a good starting point and its biggest value is probably that it gets you into the mindset of really appreciating tea and trying to brew it well, instead of just mindlessly putting leaves or teabags in a mug and forgetting about them, but I actually prefer some teas with lower leaf to water ratios.
I even used to brew Japanese teas gongfu style because someone recommended it to me, and it was nice in its own way, I still sometimes do it but it's way to rich for a daily driver.

>>17760078
80-70ml gaiwans work well, I use them for A/B tea comparisons, you can probably also just use less leaf and not fully fill a 100ml gaiwan.

>> No.17762343

>>17762079
Very good.
Is Yerba Mate really 2 levels below Rooibos though? I knew about Yerba Mate first.
Also, I feel like there's too big of a jump from 1 to 2.

>> No.17762376

Are there any tea shops out there owned by based people instead of white guys with chinese wives, tatted up freaks, or a sleazy greaseball bastard? Best I know is Old Ways which is at least just run by one chinese guy selling tea from his family's farms. He seems normal.

>> No.17762380

>>17762079
category 5 is too jokey, also half of 1 is pretty normie tier (kombucha, chamomile, random green tea) while the other half is somewhat appropriate
Kenyan tea is pretty much in every cheap teabag, should replace it with something like gyokuro or if you want more obscure, Georgian No. 8 - the soviet cultivar of tea. Heck the whole soviet tea grading system is something neat to add.
Tier 5 is too jokey, it's supposed to be real things that are incredibly obscure or absurd but realistic. Like people sending their teapots in to be spectro-analyzed, or you can just put "water" to refer to the water autism some people get, but uninitiated would think it means drinking water. I do vote for a jokey one of "becoming a chinese CEO" to get free puar

Sorry for the autism

>> No.17762479

>>17762376
The guy who runs Mountain Stream Teas seems cool.

>> No.17762485

>>17762376
>white guys with chinese wives, tatted up freaks, or a sleazy greaseball bastard
i'm all three. maybe I should open up a tea shop

>> No.17762641

When you brew puer, do you just break off a piece and brew the piece whole, or do you basically break it up into individual leaves? I have seen both.

>> No.17762678

Anyone tried the light roasted "fried" tea from fullchea?
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2021-traditional-high-quality-handmade-fried-tea-oolong-chinese-tea-china-jieyang-light-roasted-fragrant-taste-100g-p0810.html

>> No.17763399

>>17761979
Sometimes you can go crazy with the leaf brewing ripes and get a really great result but if it's bland it's bland.
Lingering sweetness from a ripe is a pretty nice surprise, i wish it was more common

>> No.17763426

>>17762058
>Is it normal for first flush and second flush to be so different?
They tend to be quite different with some first flush almost performing like a green tea and second flush being much more firmly on the black tea spectrum. I think second flush is typically oxidized much more.
>>17762058
>Wuyi Shui Xian Organic Oolong
>I don't like it.
Damn, most not be a great example. It can be a bit finicky because sometimes its over roasted but a good one is nice.
Keep an eye out for rou gui oolong in the future, it should do it for you.
Thanks for the tasting notes. Ive never heard of that shop before i will check them out.
Wuyi oolongs are some of my favorite teas, i love the complex roast aromas and the mineral flavors. Too bad they get so expensive so quickly. If you like the more floral aspects of oolong you might like the dan cong oolongs, but i would still suggest looking for ones with a decent roast on them.

>> No.17763443

>>17762079
>>17762380
Becoming a high level chinese banking executive just for the tea gifts
5 also needs some stuff like
Actual 1000 year old trees
Realizing teas from the 50s aren't aged long enough
Buying out Dayi Tae Tea
Purchasing Yiwu Mountain - The entire thing
The original 4 Yancha bushes

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>>17762641
If it's a really loose pressed cake i will kind of tease the leaves apart. With most heavily compressed puer you need to get a feel for what a good chunk size is, if you just use one rock hard 7 gram chunk sometimes it doesn't open for ages and you end up with some substandard brews. At the same time you don't want to break it up too small or you end up with tea dust.
Pic related is an iron cake i broke up earlier today, i basically cur the cake into inch thick strips and then go along the edge of the strips and separate them into smaller pieces.you can see the thickness with the piece on the bottom left.
Don't worry too much, you will get the hang of what works for you.

>> No.17763477

>>17762678
Ive been damn tempted to. Actually i was looking athe the deeper roasted versions but that's just my general tea preference.
Give it a shot it's cheap enough that it's not a bug deal if you don't like it. It's a tea you aren't going to see anyone else selling to the west.

>> No.17763523

>>17762641
>>17763461
One thing you need to learn to look out for is that one brew in the middle of the session when all of the chunks open up all of a sudden. Learn to spot when that his happening and cut that brew down to 5 or maybe 10 seconds, as the chunks will dump a bunch of flavor all at once and it's easy to get a overly strong brew out of it.

>> No.17764183

What is a good babby's first aged white?

>> No.17764359

>>17764183
Probably something like this
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/compressed-white-tea/products/2014-chen-nian-shou-mei-aged-white-tea-cake-of-fuding
Or maybe this if you don't mind spending more
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/compressed-white-tea/products/2016-shun-ming-dao-lao-bai-cha-gong-mei-white-tea-cake
See also
https://kingteamall.com/collections/white-tea/products/2018-xiaguan-bai-cha-white-tea-320g-yunnan-yueguangbai
Or this for a bit more
https://kingteamall.com/collections/white-tea/products/2017-xiaguan-yue-guang-moon-light-cake-360g-bai-cha-white-tea
Third website
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2019-zhongcha-white-tea-cake-bai-mu-dan-silk-road-tea-357g-p0691.html
I would probably get one of the xiaguan ones but it deepends on how much KTM charges for shipping one cake.

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Explain to me why tea elitists hates these.

>> No.17764425
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>>17764361
When you use good tea with large leaf pieces you cant fit enough in there to brew a mug of tea. If you do manage to stuff enough in the leaves dont have enough room to expand and you end up with a solid ball of wet leaves where only the ones on the outside of the ball infuse into the tea.
Just get a finum brew basket for $7 on ebay, problem solved. No need for teapots or any fancy kit. You can find all stainless ones too if pic related tickles your autism.
You can also find larger size tea balls like your pic that work fine if you really want to use one.

>> No.17764972

thinking of buying a copper kettle ive seen in a second hand store, anything i should look out for or are they all pretty good?

>> No.17765004

>>17764972
You gotta read up on copper cookware, is it tinned?, does it need to be if you are just boiling water? Does the inside look disgusting? Is it nice heavy copper meant to look good in a kitchen or is it cheap thin copper meant to fill with water and stick on top of the wood stove?

>> No.17765095

>>17764183
>white tea
>aged
Oh no no no. Iceberg level 2: buying "aged shou mei." Iceberg level 5: buying actual aged white tea.

>> No.17765123

wtf is this
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/powders-of-natural-reishi-mushroom-ganoderma-lucidum-spore-powder-reishi-lingzhi-spore-powder-250g-p0556.html
>>17762079
Also no mention of aging puers yourself

>> No.17765169

>>17765123
Reishi mushroom powder, i doubt it's actually all spores. I would not buy that, reshi mushroom is something you should look into before taking regularly.
If you want something weird off there get the aged citrus skins.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2018-xinhui-quotchen-piquot-tianma-production-area-chinese-herbal-tea-dried-tangerine-full-red-peel-dry-herb-pericarpium-50g-p0829.html
Some bits of that mixed with some ripe puer is tasty.
Just don't store them in the same bag as your tea they will make it all taste like citrus.

>> No.17765207

Does anyone have that infographic with all the Chinese teapot shapes? I forgot to save it.

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>>17765207

>> No.17765382

>>17765375
For me it's flat meat

>> No.17765516

>>17765375
I enver understood the Chinese love for pots in gimmicky animal or plant shapes.

>> No.17765522
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>>17765207
I found this in the archives, don't know if it helps.

>> No.17765548

>>17765516
>I never understood the Chinese love for pots in gimmicky animal or plant shapes.
It just seems like a decorative thing. Like all the factory one pots that look like things like bundles of bamboo shoots. I think the more impractical shapes aren't really intended to be used regularly

>> No.17765566

>>17765375
>all those tall instead of wide
pleb tier

>> No.17765612

>>17765566
Iirc tall and narrow is supposed to be good for roasted wuyi oolong

>> No.17765793

Is it disrespectful to the tea farmers to put milk in my loose leaf brew? I don't care about milk in bagged tea because industrial bagging of tea is the most disrespectful way to treat tea.

>> No.17765818

>>17765793
If adding milk to your tea improves the taste vs. drinking it straight then it probably isn't very good anyway, do whatever you want though. If you spent good money on high quality leaves I don't know why you would mix it with milk instead of just enjoying the taste of the leaves.

>> No.17765824

>>17765793
Depends entirely on the tea. Some black teas, like Assam, arguably benefit from milk. Not for me, but it's probably not going to raise any eyebrows. If you add milk to nice chinese tea, or sencha or something like that you're a psychopath, however.

>> No.17765863

>>17765818
It's not that I don't like the leaves, sometimes I want a cup that's a little softer on the palate so I add an ounce or two of milk.

>> No.17765874

>>17765863
Like the above poster said, if it's an assam then it's kosher to add a splash of milk. In my experience yunnan black teas are already quite soft on the palate, to use your expression, and any other tea type with milk makes you a psychopath. To be honest I have been drinking some cheap GFOP assam from Upton for a while which has basically become my "tuition tea" I'm trying to get rid of, I should have just been adding milk to make it more palatable.

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>>17741397
They currently have a black tea sale going on, any recommendations? I always stock up on some smoked Lapsang and Bi Luo Chun (the rolled up stuff). I love the malty and dried fruit flavors, or anything honey like. I'll also try anything unique or weird too, gotta get my money's worth in shipping

>> No.17765899

Would you add milk to his tea?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iaMgWNKGwrQ

>> No.17765910

>>17765897
I was going to aak if this purple black tea cake was included in the sale but $48??? Meh i thought they were $30 and that was pushing it
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/compressed-black-tea/products/purple-voodoo-purple-black-tea-cake-spring-2021

>> No.17765918

>>17765897
Go with this unsmoked lapsang, it's really good. It's not really similar to their BLCs or other black teas but it packs a punch and is pretty inexpensive too:
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/orchid-aroma-zheng-shan-xiao-zhong-black-tea?variant=39962004881607

>> No.17765955

>>17765897
Sample this, it's not black tea but it's unique and interesting
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/hunan-fu-brick-tea/products/2017-yun-tai-mountain-sentinel-mountain-fu-zhuan-brick-tea
Also if you like smokey lapsang you might enjoy this, it should have a nic smokey flavor profile with good smoothness
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/hunan-tian-jian-tea/products/2018-cha-yu-lin-liu-bu-xi-village-tian-jian-basket-tea
Disclaimer i haven't tried these
If you want malt
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/black-tea-spring-2022/products/feng-qing-classic-58-dian-hong-premium-yunnan-black-tea?variant=42130839371975
Also im assuming this sells well for a reason so it might be worth trying
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/black-tea-spring-2022/products/high-mountain-red-ai-lao-mountain-black-tea

>> No.17765969

When you buy say 100g of the tea bricks how do they package that? Is it 100g cut away from a kilo brick, 100g pressed by itself?

>> No.17766024

>>17765969
I bought 50g of a fu brick and it came in two solid chunks. If they sell bricks and part of the size options is 1 kilo then that means that's how they were pressed and that's what they are cutting from. You can usually tell by the picture anyway, but I haven't heard of 100g bricks. Something that small would be in a small cake shape usually.

>> No.17766090

>>17765969
Its going to be chunks broken off of a brick in a sealed bag.

>> No.17766878

bump

>> No.17766900

>>17765612
wide and flat lets leaves expand better and more surface area touching water, tall and narrow retains heat while sacrificing surface area.

>> No.17767841

>>17766900
Sometimes more heat can be desirable, especially with aged teas

>> No.17768602

>tfw lao cha tou is so tasty I'm brewing 2L with 7.5g

>> No.17768975

>>17765793
If Taiwan does it so can you. Fuck the Chinese

>> No.17768994

>>17768602
I'm also drinking a lao cha tou, might be my favourite tea ever and I didn't even like shu puer that much until recently.

>> No.17769187

>>17768994
I really wish there wasn't so much awful shu that is really easy for westerners to buy. If someone buys dirt cheap Chinese black tea from some random store on ebay the worst it will do is barely taste like anything, do the same thing with ripe puer and you get something that smells and tastes like rotting fish.

>> No.17769250

>>17769187
Can confirm most shou is utter trash. You can easily undrinkable shou, 70% of it falls in the inoffensive but bland and composty category, very rarely is it ever worth drinking.
The good stuff is pretty darn good though, and it's still fairly cheap.

>> No.17769298

>>17769250
The good stuff is amazing, i had a saple of a pretty expensive one thst taste like german black forest cake with cherry sauce, no joke, still had a tiny bit of young dhu taste but its was a very new production. I almost dropped $400 on a full kilo brick of it

>> No.17769449

>Cast iron kettles
>Silver kettles
How much of a difference do these really make? Which one is better?

>> No.17769492

>>17769449
Kettles, as in the thing you boil warer in might maybe make.some difference. Cast iron will add some quantity of iron to the water as it boils, not very much, it also needs to be carefully dried after every use to prevent it from rusting. Silver kettles are supposed to be inert and not change the flavir of tea at all (so is regular stainless steel)
When i comes to teapots, the thinga you brew tea in, the cast iron pots usually have enamel on the inside to prevent rust, they make brewing more difficult and don't really provided any benefits, must be warmed before use because of the large thermal mass. Silver teapots are thinner and work well, as long as they have some kind if insulated handle and lid knob, again they are supposed to not change the flavor of tea, thry are somewhat popular, at least one poster here has one. Fun if you don't mind dropping a few hundred on a teapot but nothing you need.

>> No.17769659

>>17765375
Am i a basic bitch for liking shi piao shape the most?

>> No.17769983

>>17769659
shi pao is easily in my top three, it's a great shape, i like the stark geometric aspects of it, it has a sort of mid century modern design vibe to it.
shui ping is my absolute favorite, probably the the absolutely most popular or common shape, i don't care, i bought one, i love it.

>> No.17770006

>>17765375
I like ruyi. The little legs are cute.

>> No.17770130

>>17765375
Cang Liufang looks cool. Does anyone have a picture of one in real life? It must be a rare shape since I get no search results for it.
Seng Mao is also interesting, but they are also very rare.

>> No.17770168

>>17770130
Outside of aesthetics, Seng Mao is mostly known for being bad for everything except black teas.

>> No.17770177

what electric kettles do you use? mine can't reach a boil without overheating anymore, so i need a new one.

>> No.17770204

>>17741397
The fuck is going on in op's pic? Is he pouring tea over a closed teapot?

>> No.17770212

Cancer anon here
Got cleared that it didn't spread and I'm functionally cured. Antioxidants are fine again and I can go back to chugging tea

>> No.17770247

>>17770177
If you are in the US get a secura on Amazon, 100% stainless steel interior with no seams, priced around $35-$40

>> No.17770248

>>17770212
Glad to hear it, man

>> No.17770258

>>17770204
Yeah it's just a thing people do because it looks cool, it doesn't enhance the tea brewing as far as i know. Guy in that pic is putting on a show

>> No.17770262

>>17770204
It's just hot water to keep the teapot hot while brewing.

>> No.17770284

>>17770258
What's the show? Looking like a dumbass?

>> No.17770302

>>17770284
Impressing customers so they buy his tea
I think the idea is the hot water keeps the pot warm so it maintains a higher temperature while brewing, but lije i said it's mostly just for show, i don't know if it really does anything.

>> No.17770711

>>17770212
Welcome back to the club. You should brag to everyone you're a survivor.

>> No.17770856

>>17770711
Yeah I'm going to buy cancer merch like mugs to be smug about

>> No.17770864

>>17770302
It creates a coating on the pot over time that makes it seasoned and shiny

>> No.17770877

>>17770864
I like my pot dry and hard water stained on the outside thanks

>> No.17770924

>>17769492
>it also needs to be carefully dried after every use to prevent it from rusting
It does so no matter how hard you try. You boil green tea in it and it turns the rust spots into a black patina. Then you can drink the boiled down green tea if you want some really disgusting tea.
t. knower

>> No.17771150

>>17770924
Interdasting. Does it just turn the rust into black patina or does it patinate the whole thing?

>> No.17771194

>>17771150
You build a dark rust resistant seasoning by boiling black tea into sludge inside it when you first start. The green tea treatment for rust spots is slightly darker than the surrounding seasoning.
You can also make green tea and paint external rust spots with it.

>> No.17771200

>>17770924
>>17771194
Do you have pictures? Just curious.

>> No.17771241

>>17771200
I don't have it with me right now but I'll take pictures of it next time I have it with me if I remember to. Here's a big writeup on them by Hojo Tea:
https://hojotea.com/categ_e/tetsubin.htm
Other things that can develop on the inside: red mineral spots (similar looking to rust but not the same), white mineral spots, blue hues from fast temperature changes

>> No.17771509

What's your guys' favorite sweetener for tea?
Be it sugar, honey, or artificial.
Looking for something to sweeten up my evening camomile tea.

>> No.17771570

>>17771509
Has to be honey, or not at all. It makes a tea that much more soothing.

>> No.17771723

>>17770212
Good news, what a relief
t. Anxi hairy crab anon

>> No.17771724

>>17771509
Glycine

>> No.17771756

>>17770924
>>17771150
>>17771194
>>17771200
>>17771241
Tea can be used as a dye agent, but vegelal based fabric has to be mordanted with either Al2O3 or Fe2O3 (rust) to fix the color. It's quite logical that rust spots can be painted with tea. Lowtech rust paint. Brilliant.

>> No.17771849

Why is tea so delicious when it's just dirty leaves

>> No.17772422

What is the best tea in the whole world?

>> No.17772479

>>17772422
It's the one you favor

>> No.17772574

Turns out kombucha is still great without any second fermentation flavor infusions. I was memed

>> No.17772585

>>17772479
I have literally never drank any tea at all

>> No.17772586

for me, it's Tazo Zen tea

>> No.17772600

Just drank 7572 shu puer. It was nice.

>> No.17773004

Broke my wrist a couple months ago and couldn't gongfu my shou pu er anymore with my 500mL insulated flask. Here are my parameters for gongfu/western crossover I ended with:
>Vol 500 mL stoneware teapot
>Temp boiling
>m 5-7.5g depending on the tea
>first steep 3.5-4 min
>second steep 7 min
>third 10 min simmer
>fourth (depending on the tea): see third

>> No.17773100

>>17771509
Honey, preferably wildflowers honey from a spot within 50mi of where i live (allegedly helps with allergies)

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>>17772422
It's totally arbitrary, there are expensive meme teas like oolong from the original bushes but god know if it tastes any good.
https://www.wufeng-tea.com/news-post/the-current-situation-of-da-hong-pao-mother-trees/

>> No.17773131

>>17772600
Nice
>>17773004
Good system, i need to try that sometime, i love the idea of having piping hot ripe ready to go all day.

>> No.17773223

>>17773131
>Good system
Thanks, next step would be to find the absolute minimum tea mass and simmer duration for a given volume at once. Near 5g/L if I had to guess, and 15 min. But I'm recovering so I won't try that any soon.

>> No.17773253

>>17773223
>Near 5g/L if I had to guess, and 15 min.
That's right around what i would expect.

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17773462

Oho? What has arrived in the mail?

>> No.17773624

>>17769298
The mengku bo jun sample from niequn-oleg? Shit was so good.

>> No.17773689

Oolong is objectively the best tea there is. Name a tea that has a name as based as “black dragon”

>> No.17773741

>>17773624
Yes exactly, im so glad at least someone else tried it
I need to grab some more affordable mengku ripes to see how they hold up.
I had a 2011 brick of mengku raw that was an 88bing tribute and that was one of the best raws ive had, unfortunately shortly after KTM removed half of their mengku stock and then doubled the price of the rest of it.

>> No.17773754

>>17773689
This is the unassailable truth, nothing holds a candle to yancha.

>> No.17773759

>>17773462
>2008
Very nice, very nice
How does it look? Where did you get it?

>> No.17773794

>>17742799
Entire site is in chinese and if i click on the english button, i get an error message.
Can't make out what is what there. But otherwise it seems to be a good.

>> No.17773816

>>17773794
For those situations i use a chromium based browser and use it's built in google translate functionality, it works good enough most of the time. You can configure it to automatically translate when it detects chinese or once a page has loaded you can right click on it and select translate and it will work seamlessly in place, much easier than trying to feed urls into google translate and then navigate that way.
Also protip, for tabao / tmall you usually have to set your browser to allow thrid party cookies to get taobao to stop hitting you with bot checks constantly.

>> No.17773837

>>17773759
I'm pretty sure they just mean that it conforms to the 2008 revision of ISO9001, but it's a 2014 fu brick. I'll post a review after I've drank it a few times, initial impressions are "pleasantly surprised" though. Not bad.
Mostly just posting to let this anon know I got my order in
>>17749974

I grabbed this brick and some cheapies from Pasha, Nannuo, and Bulang. Still have the Nannuo to try, overall about what I expected. If you have an aristocratic palate, none of this tea will probably appeal to you, it's firmly in the "rustic" category in terms of processing, but I'll post detailed thoughts once I've drank my way through significant amounts of these cakes. Very affordable, though.

>> No.17773993

>>17773837
>>17773462
Looking forward to seeing what you and other people think of that fu brick since I don't really have any experience in that realm.
My tea budget is miniscule atm so the affordable nature of a lot of puerh shop's inventory is so nice.

>> No.17774006

>>17773837
Ah alright, well 2014 isnt bad either. That's about how old the black bishashi brick i tried was. It was smokey and smooth.
Im also interested i hearing your thoughts on the other stuff you picked up.

>> No.17774097

>>17773816
I use firefox. Will look at ways to translate. Normally it's offered to me, but not this time.

>> No.17774235
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17774235

Thoughts?

>> No.17774252

Alright teaboys, I got bored and picked some dandelions out of my yard and set them to dry on a coffee filter in the window. How long do I need to do this before brewing?
>>17773741
If I had a cooler full of that my life would be perfect.

>> No.17774457

i started using a stovetop kettle and its much more comfy than a loud electric one, since its a shitty aluminum kettle made for camping i put a wool beanie over it so it holds heat longer :)

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>>17774097
Switch to Brave. It comes without a lot of exploits and backdoors designed for Firefox and Chrome, despite being a roided-out Chrome clone. You'll be able to use all the translation extensions you want, and it will actually ask if you want to install them if it detects foreign language.

>> No.17774652

>>17774235
I like the oolong.
I like flavored teas from Harney and Sons too

>> No.17774657

What tea should I drink if I want to be immortal

>> No.17774664

>>17774657
cute and funny tea

>> No.17774746

>>17774252
Dandelion root? Should dry in a day or two but i think it's typically also roasted

>> No.17774798

>>17774746
Nah just the flowers and greens. I only plucked enough for a gaiwan full to make sure I wasn't cucking the beebros.
https://youtu.be/1-3aU9Vm0h0

>> No.17774805

>>17774798
LOL wrong link. For some reason I always have to right click>copy video url twice.
https://youtu.be/OjlhnZ99rTc

>> No.17774827

>>17774805
Interesting, post results

>> No.17774833

please install Brave sirs

>> No.17774875

kek don't blame that one i just said use a chromium baaed browser for reading Chinese websites. I just keep chromium around for that and other foreign language sites and then use firefaux for my regular browsing needs

>> No.17775111

Keep two browsers installed on the off chance you need to translate some runes, or just install an extension? Make the right choice /tea/.

>> No.17775125

Such a tease

>> No.17775282

God i love tea

>> No.17775470

What's the perfect amount of time to steep your tea bags in a large pot?

>> No.17775487

>>17775470
3 minutes

>> No.17775548

>>17741397
Where are some places to get some pretty nice teapots? I like the place I'm shopping at but I want some really nice looking stuff

>> No.17775568 [DELETED] 

>>17762079
Can someone make this with the actual text on the iceberg

>> No.17775579

>>17775548
What kind of teapots? For porcelain i recommended learning a bit and then looking on ebay. There is a load of stuff and it's affordable. For Japanese check the Japanese vendors in the pastebin, for Chinese there is a section in the pastebin for sellers of clay pots.
If you say what exactly you are after i might be able to point you to some specifics

>> No.17775614

>>17775579
I'm not too picky on quality (I know it's bad to say) but I've always been fond of teapots with animal or floral patterns on them. I don't know if this leans more on the Japanese or Chinese side of things.

>> No.17775641

>>17775614
You wqnt something for western style brewing? Not gongfu?
I suggest a 2 cup size teapot i will take a look real quick, you in the USA?

>> No.17775651

>>17775614
>>17775641
Also you should try to find something with a basket that fits inside to hold the tea.

>> No.17775663

>>17775641
>You wqnt something for western style brewing? Not gongfu?
If that involves just putting a teabag or loose leaf into a pot then yes
>you in the USA?
Also yes

>> No.17775711

>>17775663
Here are a few of the easiest options
https://www.amazon.com/Hario-Cha-Kyusu-Maru-300ml/dp/B000NVMC4I/
Also these guys
https://www.ebay.com/itm/332998557852
The older stuff can be a bit tricky because you have to find a separate basket that will fit.

>> No.17775757

>>17775711
These brew devices also work great for making tea for one as long as you don't mind the plastic
https://www.amazon.com/GROSCHE-Aberdeen-PERFECT-coaster-BPA-Free/dp/B00KIW0T9C/

>> No.17775937

>>17771241
>>17771756
Great info.

>> No.17776721

>>17775757
>>17775711
Thanks! I'll definitely take a look at these

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(Cheap) 2020 yiwu from Essence of Tea. This was a free sample with my order last year.

>> No.17777178

How do I store teas?

>> No.17777201

>>17777178
In a sealed package in a cool dry area away from any strong odors.hopefully the stuff you buy will come in reclosable bags, when it doesnt you can buy canning jars and keep the tea in those. You can also buy turkey bags or slow cooker liners at the grocery store (with the plastic bags) that are airtight when ties shut correctly. I keep most of my bags of tea on a bookshelf in my living room.

>> No.17777211

>>17777159
Nice tea, sweet and creamy, girlfriend said it tastes like it has milk added to it. I wouldn't go that far but it does have that oolong kind of cream going on.

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17778305

>>17777178
I personally stre the teas in the bags they come in.
Earl grey with bergamotte. It is a Ceylon bend.

Good quality for the price. We always order from this guys shop in Berlin.

>> No.17778490

>>17778305
Nice

>> No.17778620

Anon from a little while ago who inquired about kettles.

I ended up finding a chink £20 stainless steel one, because the cofe one you guys recommended me for £100 had a bit of plastic in it somewhere iirc.

Trouble is, this one has also white plastic retention fork thingies for closing the lid on the inside, hooking onto the spout (it's about 2cm square contact, it's not much, but water will run past it during pouring) and although the interior is a stainless steel bucket (pretty much a bucket, I imagine the heating element is in the chassis underneath somewhere) and although the lid has a stainless steel plate, the lid plate is ultimately connected to the rest of the plastic lid by a 1cm white plastic rim, so some steam condenses and comes into contact with it, and no doubt during pouring, too. The black shell is polypropylene, I don't know about the inside plasticy bits.

I think it's a step up from my 6 year old, all plastic, £5 tesco one, but I still feel like I should have just listened and got the funny one with the really long spout like you guys said to.
>how's the taste?
A slight improvement. I don't smell literal burning plastic in my steam, and I didn't notice that until this cup of tea.
>5 social credit has been deposited into your tea jar

>> No.17778757

>>17778620
Mostly stainless is a huge improvement. Way fucking better than totally plastic on the inside.

>> No.17778811

im almost out of lapsang, 200g of tea lasted me about 2 1/2 weeks

>> No.17778825

Now i need to buy more lapsang, or i won't have any, and that would be bad.

>> No.17778830

I think I'm too stupid for gyokuro. I don't get it at all.

>> No.17778840

>>17778830
What does it taste like?

>> No.17778849

>>17778840
Savory spinach
But it was cheap, so it might have been bad leaves.

>> No.17778859

>>17741397
new thread
>>17778854
>>17778854
>>17778854

>> No.17778860

>>17778849
I think that's what it's supposed to take like

>> No.17778991

>>17773689
For me it's the frozen summit aka dong ding