/ctg/ - Coffee Time General

[Anonymous No.17720890]

Lance Hedrick Edition

Thread theme: https://youtu.be/H2LQMElLoLs

Caught venting: >>17700743

[Anonymous No.17720969]

>>17720890
I’m in this photo btw

[Anonymous No.17720988]

>>17720969
Which one are you? I'm the one on the far left

[Anonymous No.17720990]

>aeropress
>1zpresso q2
>have delicious coffee every day
>makes /ctg/ fanny flustered
im thinking based

[Anonymous No.17721022]

Make me a cup of coffee, /ctg/.

[Anonymous No.17721036]

>>17720990
>1zpresso q2
>not Kingrinder
NGMI

[Anonymous No.17721055]

>drink a bunch of coffee
>take a giant nasty stinky doodoo shit
>wipe ass
>no poopie on the paper
>just blood
>wipe again
>more blood
Coffees for this feel?

[Anonymous No.17721163]

Sumatra or gtfo

[Anonymous No.17721177]

>>17721163
based

[Anonymous No.17721211]

Is it ever okay to put sugar in espresso?

[Anonymous No.17721218]

>>17721211
it's your choice really

[Anonymous No.17721527]

>>17721218
>Perfection is lots of little things done well
Fuck dude you expect me to pour water better now?

[Anonymous No.17721530]

I like my coffee how I like my girlfriend: blacked

[Anonymous No.17721588]

>>17721055
don't drink so much coffee

[Anonymous No.17721929]

>>17721211
when i buy a new bag of beans i always make 2 shots first drink both black, the first i drink when its hot and the second i wait for it to go cold. if its good both hot and cold i know this coffee is good and then i will start adding different elements. black with sugar, milk, milk with sugar, milk+foam, milk+foam+sugar.

then i will decide which is the best drink/s and decide if its worth it to buy this coffee again.

[Anonymous No.17721939]

>>17721055
go to a doctor.

[Anonymous No.17721946]

>>17721939
Why the fuck would I ever go to a (((doctor)))? So that he can tell me I'm actually a woman and need to spend $400,000 on surgery to turn my cock inside out or else I'm getting locked up in the asylum forever? Fuck off

[Anonymous No.17722000]

Is it actually possible to end up with a flat bed in a V60 without swirling it at the end? Or more importantly, does the bed really need to be completely flat to guarantee good extraction?

[Anonymous No.17722023]

>>17721946
looks like another /x/ schizo escaped its cage.

[Anonymous No.17722030]

>>17722000
You can find lots of information online that if you're using V60 or similar brewers that you must have a flat bed at the end of the brew or your extraction will be "uneven". It also seems like a recent thing as the original designers of the device in Japan didn't seem to care about having a a flat bed. Is there any actual testing on this (i.e. by taking dry residue from different parts of the brew bed) or is it just one of those things that people take for granted without giving it a thought? Who is not to say that in drip the extraction doesn't happen during drawndown but when hot water makes contact with the slurry (i.e through washing)?

I did a few brews on a V60 like brewer (Origami) without doing a final swirl/tap but just letting drain and it didn't seem to lower EY when doing bloom + two pulse pours. The one without the swirl salso eemed cleaner likely because you're not kicking more silt into the brew?

I'm undecided on this. I have had very tasty brews with uneven/pitted beds. With permanent filters like Kone & Hario Cafeor, these seem to be the tastiest.

Until the liquid drains, I see the slurry as just that, a floating/swirling mixture of particles semi-suspended in the liquid, if you pulse pour at a low water level you can see the whole lot churning as you add water towards the end of the brew.

I think it is important to get the whole bed wet at bloom, especially if using a few pulses (lots of little pulses with a coarse grind seem to do OK without a specific bloom), so that particles aren't left dry & excluded from contributing to the brew.

I think there can also be a trade off when brewing fine, or with larger brews, where silt passing through the paper causes bitterness even at normal extraction levels. Here, it can be advantageous to disturb the bed as little as possible to minimise silt in the cup/server.

[Anonymous No.17722032]

>>17722000
>Is it actually possible to end up with a flat bed in a V60 without swirling it at the end?
yes
>Or more importantly, does the bed really need to be completely flat to guarantee good extraction?
no but it helps.

[Anonymous No.17722052]

>>17722000
If you want to actually read on the subject.
https://coffeeadastra.com/2018/11/30/brewing-better-coffee/
https://www.scottrao.com/the-physics-of-filter-coffee
No ebook release so I can't snag that one for you guys.

[Anonymous No.17722726]

>>17721211
Please don't

[Anonymous No.17722744]

Morning lads, how the fuck do I do latte art? I think my milk jug is too small or something or I'm just retarded

[Anonymous No.17722763]

how do you pour milk from these retarded 1 L containers?
>pour slowly
>it dribbles down side
>pour fast enough that it doesn't dribble
>it GLUGS and splashes everywhere
the first time I got one it splashed all the way to my eyeglasses

I searched online, and one tip was to pour with the spout on the side away from the glass. this works well with bottles that have a flattened rectangle shape and the spout on one side, but for square top boxes it makes no difference

if the size of the opening is large, air can get back in and it can pour normally, but many are designed by retards and have an unstable flow with a small nozzle. some attachment is needed to safely pour into my coffee without spilling. I am baffled. Why are these stupid milk packages so widespread? some are literally impossible to pour with

[Anonymous No.17722776]

>>17720890
No thanks, I don't want my coffee to taste like stray shaved hairs with a volatile aroma of hair gel from a hipster who quaffs himself into a gay dinosaur-man every morning.

[Anonymous No.17722788]

>>17722763
have you tried this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Hw6wq67wI

[Anonymous No.17722813]

>>17722788
yeah that helps with cartons like in the video but not with square ones in my experience

btw here are the ones I actually own
sainsbury's is very comfy to pour with
I think the angled spout makes a big difference
then the other one is a retarded splasher that makes me seethe

[Anonymous No.17723015]

>>17720990
recipe?

Got my aeropress few days ago and still trying to figure out the best recipe.

[Anonymous No.17723304]

>>17722726
What if you're trying to introduce a normalfag to espresso? Maybe a quarter of a spoon? Just the tip?

[Anonymous No.17723589]

>>17720990
I'm just getting into it because coffee helps a bit with non alcoholic fatty liver disease, now I have to graze on grass like cattle and avoid anything that tastes good, fucking bullshit.
Looked into some reviews of products and options available online then ordered the following:
>Espro P3 french press
>Airscape Stainless 500g
>Lido 3 hand grinder
>3x250g roasted bean samples from a local roaster
Definitely overspent, fuck it.
I like turkish coffee as well and have a kit I received as a gift but I never tried making coffee with it myself, french press seems much easier for a beginner and doesn't require any paper filters.

[Anonymous No.17723684]

>>17723589
>>Lido 3 hand grinder
Please tell me this is satire

[Anonymous No.17723695]

>>17723684
It isn't satire, grinds pretty fast and the results look consistent but it is made out of plastic there are better options in the same price. Couldn't find the products I wanted on amazon, the 1zpresso q2 looked similar to the commandante C40 but seemed iffy I've read it was discontinued so I am not sure if the quality is still the same it seemed to get stuck/inconsistent resistance when I saw one guy grinding with it on youtube.

[Anonymous No.17723696]

>>17723695
Yikes

[Anonymous No.17723699]

>>17723696
What do you hate about the product? I can still cancel it if need be.

[Anonymous No.17723707]

>>17723699
Why would you cancel it? You clearly already decided that you like it and nothing that I can say will ever change your mind. Fuck off and enjoy your shitty grinder.

[Anonymous No.17723712]

>>17723707
My mind can be changed if there is an accessible alternative that is better and the flaws of my choice are highlighted. All you've said is yikes, shitty product ngmi, etc... and offered nothing constructive.

[Anonymous No.17723719]

>>17723712
No, go ahead and buy it, because it's going to be funny as fuck to see you come back here in a few days to bitch about how terrible it is.

[Anonymous No.17723721]

>>17723699
Pay $10 more, get a kinu m47p off prima. Lidos were okay 10ish years ago before the market was so saturated.

[Anonymous No.17723723]

>>17723721
thanks I'll have a look

[Anonymous No.17724096]

1zpresso gripanon where you at? Made any progress?

[Anonymous No.17724207]

>>17721163
>>17721177
https://youtu.be/ojQB7PYaU28?t=24

[Anonymous No.17724217]

>>17724096
Damn, how did that happen?
There has to be a replacement, it looks so easy to snap a new one on.
Good luck.

[Anonymous No.17724340]

>>17724217
Not my pic, thats the flair signature. Doesn't have the silicone grip so he wrapped it with yonex supergrap. Some other anon was complaining the grip on his kmax? had ripped off a few weeks so I was suggesting tennis overgrip.

[Anonymous No.17724631]

>>17724096
Nah, I haven't done it yet. I've been busy this month. That looks fucking awesome though. Racquet grips on coffee shit is gonna be the next cool kid thing.

[Anonymous No.17725399]

>>17722744
that milk looks too foamy to draw with, you should vaporize your milk and take some of the foam off, then stir until the surface looks shiny like fresh paint. Thats the point where you can pour it to make you fucking faggot gay ass latte art and drink a cold as fuck coffee

[Anonymous No.17725493]

>>17725399
>vaporize your milk
How is he going to pour it into the coffee if it's a gas retard

[Anonymous No.17725900]

why is it so comfy bros?

[Anonymous No.17725933]

>>17721055
take some fish oil and tumeric pills. you have hemorrhoids. that shit works, takes about 3 months though. I am living proof.

[Anonymous No.17725942]

>>17720969
Looking good anon ;)

[Anonymous No.17726091]

Is it worth it? I'm looking for a temp control gooseneck but this might be too expensive.

[Anonymous No.17726112]

>>17726091
No complaints with mine.

[Anonymous No.17726118]

>>17725900
tempted to take the peetpill, I see fresh roasted stuff at kroger all the time. fresher than a lot of cafe offerings around here, even.

[Anonymous No.17726353]

>>17726091
No trouble with mine.

[Anonymous No.17726363]

>>17726091
I have trouble and complaints with mine.

[Anonymous No.17726406]

I like it!

[Anonymous No.17726824]

it razed my crops and killed my children

[Anonymous No.17726883]

>>17720890
Bros, what do we think of SMEGs? Are they overpriced luxury tax? Or do they actually make a decent cup of coffee? I'm asking because I can get a discount at a SMEG showroom, but know very little about them aside from them being pretty showpieces.

[Anonymous No.17726887]

>>17726883
I've got some discount SMEG for you right here *unzips dick*

[Anonymous No.17726919]

>>17726091
You can just get a normal variable temp kettle and then use it to fill a gooseneck up when needed instead of paying what amounts to a luxury tax

[Anonymous No.17726927]

>>17726919
Based retard

[Anonymous No.17726947]

Is a PuqPress worth it? I’m looking for a perfect tamp but this might be expensive.

[Anonymous No.17726970]

>>17726947
What is your current setup

[Anonymous No.17726997]

>>17725933
Today there were weird small chunks and also more blood

[Anonymous No.17727019]

>>17720890
What should I put in my morning sip to make it taste better? I'm out of honey and don't like sugar

[Anonymous No.17727021]

>>17723015
keep trying out different amounts of beans, different grinds etc and find the one thats best for you

[Anonymous No.17727027]

>>17726997
Go low carb and low fiber. Also look into protease enzymes. God speed

[Anonymous No.17727041]

>>17725493
any gas heavier than air will pour perfectly well you stupid cunt.

[Anonymous No.17727042]

>>17727041
The key word in this case is
>into
the coffee as a milk vapor would just float on top

[Anonymous No.17727044]

>>17720890
If I say I like Bonez coffee would I get laughed at by coffee snobs? Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous No.17727054]

>>17727044
>"World's Freshest Coffee"
>Flavored dark roast
>$15 per 340g

[Anonymous No.17727056]

>>17727027
I've also been farting constantly recently, yesterday it was once every 10 minutes for the entire day. And they all smelled fucking foul too like actual sewer shit. I'm not afraid of a little blood though so I think I will be fine.

[Anonymous No.17727084]

>>17727054
I'm not a coffee guy at all and just drink whatever my girlfriend makes me but I'ma take that as a yes lol.
I'm a beer snob (kinda, as in I have the knowledge but know better than to spend $9 on a craft beer I've already had at a bar so I get domestic) so I wasn't trying to become a coffee snob. Then I'd start getting way too close to being a hipster.

[Anonymous No.17727095]

What does your coffee taste like? Describe it.

[Anonymous No.17727102]

>>17727095
Burnt water

[Anonymous No.17727126]

>>17727095
What do you mean? It tastes like coffee.

[Anonymous No.17727131]

>>17726887
cmon bro, you can't do me like that.

But memes aside, any opinions on smegs?

[Anonymous No.17727141]

>>17727131
I have no idea what a smeg is man

[Anonymous No.17727248]

>>17727131
What's smeg, man?

[Anonymous No.17727336]

>>17727131
think about ease of cleaning and maintenance when buying a cofe machine, don't want mold growing on moist internal surfaces

[Anonymous No.17727700]

>>17727131
Probably alright? They're a big expensive brand name

[Anonymous No.17727704]

>>17724096
what happun?

[Anonymous No.17727720]

>>17727704
excessive channeling

[Anonymous No.17727731]

>>17727131
Rebadged DeLonghi iirc

[Anonymous No.17727765]

>>17727248
Is that what the fat little dyke was shilling?

[Anonymous No.17727834]

>>17727042
sounds like frothed milk, which also pours perfectly well into coffee.

[Anonymous No.17728052]

>>17727095
Pleasantly acidic/sour, but there's still some of the bitterness that won't go away. Just working through a bag of yirgacheffe. It tastes nice

[Anonymous No.17728060]

>>17728052
it was actually so nice that I'll make another.

[Anonymous No.17728068]

>>17720890
coffee makes me sleepy, idk why
energy drinks and caffeine pills don't make me sleepy so it has to be something to do with coffee rather than caffeine.

[Anonymous No.17728071]

>>17728052
pour over?

[Anonymous No.17728083]

>>17728071
Espresso.

Also, I just discovered used coffee grounds get mouldy. What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.17728115]

>>17728060
Waaw, the second one is even more frooty because I've done the pressure thing differently.

[Anonymous No.17728281]

>>17728115
Did you bloom before infuse and pressure ramp?

[Anonymous No.17728423]

>>17728281
On both I did 15 seconds on low pressure. The first one I squeezed only gently at less than 6, the second one I went hard and I think it went beyond 10 at some point and then I was like "oh shit" and eased up.
Not sure if it's proper blooming, since this is just a Flair, but it's good coffee.

[Anonymous No.17728432]

>>17728423
15 seconds before seriously pressing it out, I mean. The whole thing took more than 15, but 15 seconds was the start/preinfusion phase.

[Anonymous No.17728449]

>>17728068
Get your iron levels checked. Tannins in coffee fuck with your iron absorption, and if you have a deficiency it can put you to sleep

[Anonymous No.17728570]

>>17728432
With my flair I pour the water in and let it bloom for about 30s give or take, then I’ll pull down to about 3-4 bar..just till I see the basket fully about to drip and hold it for right there for another 10-20 seconds if possible before hitting it up to 6-9 Bar gradually decreasing the pressure by feel

Seems to give the tasty balance i like, while also letting me deal with my good/bad puck prep

[Anonymous No.17728577]

>>17728570
Cool, I'll try just leaving the water there for a bit.
It's great how you can play around with variables like that, but a downside is that it'll never be consistently the same shot even if you keep a log and write down everything.

[Anonymous No.17728676]

>>17728577
yeah with water in the chamber it’s most likely touching the puck so I start a timer when I start pouring and let that bloom for 30 seconds. With no pressure it just apppears nothing is happening but after the bloom time, I pull down levee until I see the basket fully saturated,..then I’ll try to hold that until I either feel see more and more drips or feel the resistance falter..then I’ll gradually/quick pull to 6-9 depending on roast really..6ish for light..and I’ll feel the resistance and see the flow and try to keep the flow and pressure equal until I get whatever ratio I’m going for

[Anonymous No.17728685]

>>17728676
as in after bloom, I’ll pull to 3-4 bar and hold that for awhile, then pull to 6-9 bar and respond to what I feel in the arm, and see from the naked portafilter/scale/sep

[Anonymous No.17728694]

>>17728570
>while also letting me deal with my good/bad puck prep
This is where the "lever magic" comes in. By not shoving a 9bar cylinder of water directly into the puck at the start, you're letting those potential channels and uneven flow through the puck even out. They just kind of work.
>>17728577
> never be consistently the same shot even if you keep a log and write down everything.
Thats why the SEP is so based. You pull a god shot, you star it in the app and write in as many parameters as you want in the log, then set it to show on the background. Gabor added a "profile drift indicator" in december to show you how far you've strayed from your reference.

[Anonymous No.17728794]

Anybody keeping tabs on this? Does it look worth the price? I've been using a Flair for about 3 years.

https://www.odysseyespresso.com/shop/argos-lever-espresso-machine

[Anonymous No.17728821]

>>17728794
kek

[Anonymous No.17728859]

>>17728794
It looks very worth the price. The owner and a couple employees hang out on EAF discord and give updates over there. Last I heard they're currently setting up the shop to start manufacturing.

[Anonymous No.17728888]

>>17721946
A-Anon...

[Anonymous No.17729601]

>shotgun a cup of dark roast
>do an hour of cardio
>take the biggest dump of my life, totally uplifts my mood and leaves me feeling physically lighter
thank you coffee

[Anonymous No.17729614]

>>17723015
I like Tim Wendelboe's.

[Anonymous No.17729650]

>>17727834

[Anonymous No.17729764]

[Anonymous No.17729940]

>>17728794
>>17728859
For that price, you can buy an entry level espresso machine that isn't mr. coffee tier. If you really want to do the manual thing, I used a flair for 3 years and got good espresso out of it for like $150. There's a learning curve on any of these things. Expect to suck for like a week or two.

[Anonymous No.17729966]

>>17729650
kek someone's mad

[Anonymous No.17730178]

>>17720890
Today for my coffee I had a caramel ice capp from tims

[Anonymous No.17730193]

>>17729966
What?

[Anonymous No.17730448]

>>17728794
Is there a pressure profiling attachment? That kind of feedback is one of the best things about a flair.
Otherwise looks really cool, would be a nice upgrade. If you're wealthy, you could also get one of those 3k swiss olympia creminas

[Anonymous No.17730499]

>>17730448
Of course. They also just have an adapter for the sep to screw on if you already have one.
https://www.odysseyespresso.com/shop/digital-bluetooth-transducer

[Anonymous No.17730591]

>>17725900
Based