ITT: things that made you stop visiting your favorite restaurant

[Anonymous No.17713469]

thank you but i'll be giving my money to chili's from now on

[Anonymous No.17713478]

>>17713469
if 3% is good enough for the ones cooking the food its more than good enough for the wait staff

[Anonymous No.17713479]

>>17713469
Lot of restaurants near me have been adding an extra 5% to your tab for employee healthcare. Quick way to lose customers, especially rich boomers

[Anonymous No.17713555]

>>17713469
My gf left me and I don't want to go to all the old spots because I get too sad. Cuck shit but real shit.

[Anonymous No.17713570]

>>17713555
I know that feel brother, I can't listen to a bunch of bands I used to love because we listened to a lot of music together. Shit sucks. I hope you find someone even better for ya.

[Anonymous No.17713574]

>>17713469
I work in a restaurant in a country where staff gets paid a real wage and tips are completely optional and appreciated no matter how small they are.
The tips are all written down and once in a while distributed to ALL staff based on the number of hours worked by the individual.
The American tipping system is a travesty and the food service workers who put up with it are massive cucks.

To answer your actual question; snobby waiters.
We run a very high-end and quite expensive place but we keep the atmosphere friendly and relaxed. You don't have to wear a suit and you don't have to be an expert on wine to dine here.
When we go out ourselves we look for places that are like that too. I don't know what kind of asshole wants to be all stiff and boring when he's eating and drinking.

[Anonymous No.17713578]

>>17713469
never understood this, just pay your workers a living wage. Either you accept that you chose to open a business that exploits people or provide a living wage and benefits. Remember, ethical businesses always close their doors.

[Anonymous No.17713579]

Instead of adding yet another charge why not just raise prices by 3% and pay the kitchen better?

[Anonymous No.17713586]

>>17713478
>>17713578
>>17713579
Obviously, but front room never wants that to be obvious. There's a reason waiters stay in the profession while back room people drop like flies.
>>17713555
Go to your normal places, but wear something different. Wear a suit, fuck it.

[Anonymous No.17713587]

Just stop tipping waiters, that would close the gap, or tip the cooks instead as they would actually deserve it. Or just pay everyone fairly without any tipping.

[Anonymous No.17713594]

>>17713579
why do you have to be so anti semitic?

[Anonymous No.17713635]

>>17713579
Then you don't get to rub the customer's face in it.

[Anonymous No.17713638]

>>17713469
This is literally humble bragging. Just raise the price of your food and shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.17713653]

so basically it's virtue signaling to make you feel good about paying a lot?

obviously they can pay their employees whatever they want..

[Anonymous No.17713662]

>>17713469
>We need YOU to pay OUR staff

No.

[Anonymous No.17713665]

>>17713579
but how else will management virtue signal that they "'care'" then?

[Anonymous No.17713673]

>>17713662
You know it's your money that pays the staff anyway right?

[Anonymous No.17713679]

>>17713673
Yes, but not directly like that.

[Anonymous No.17713700]

>paying other people to cook your food for you
Pathetic

[Anonymous No.17713714]

>>17713574
>shitty tipper
>aka these people didnt want to pay my employees for me!!! fuck them!!!
Also, that sort of public shaming should not be legal

[Anonymous No.17713752]

>>17713638
This. Rising prices have been a fact of employment life as long as there've been jobs. But virtue signaling a cost of living rise as if you're doing them a favor deserves you to lose business to the point of replacing the management with someone less crooked.

[Anonymous No.17713777]

>>17713555
>>17713570
just don't think about her bros. worked with me everytime

[Anonymous No.17713804]

>people visit restaurants so often that they have favorites
lol absolutely cucked

[Anonymous No.17713823]

>>17713574
Hahahah that is fucking hilarious
>>17713714
>noooo! I just wanted to not tip and brag like a badass on the internet for (you)’s! I don’t actually want people to know I don’t do it!!
Lol holy shit what a pussy ass faggot.

[Anonymous No.17713831]

>>17713714
I think it would be illegal in japan
you're not allowed to dishonor someone like that even if it is true
(of course they are too civilized for tipping in the first place)

[Anonymous No.17713851]

why does victimhood have so much cache now after thousands of years of brutal war and enslavement?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the public school system turned the kids into fags.

[Anonymous No.17713896]

>>17713851
prussian system

[Anonymous No.17713983]

>>17713851
Technology. Noone has to fight/work for themselves anymore, so all that energy & effort bred into humans through 100ks of evolution has to be vented somehow as we're no longer allowed to war. I takes a considerable amount of effort to convince everyone to use force to promote professional victimhood on a species that would be long extinct if it wasn't a specialist in survival.

[Anonymous No.17713991]

>>17713823
>>noooo! I just wanted to not tip
Did it mention "tipping x% minimum required" on the menu or anywhere for the diner to see?

[Anonymous No.17714080]

>>17713991
Are you really so fucking retarded that you cannot figure out what you are supposed to do unless it's literally spelled out for you? That's some heavy duty autism.

[Anonymous No.17714088]

>>17714080
So your answer to my question is 'no' I take it. Even in the US we have the laws written down somewhere you can look up, where do we look up the rules in this restaurant to not be put on the wall of shame? What is the threshold? 'Shitty Tipper' is subjective

[Anonymous No.17714090]

>>17713578
>never understood this, just pay your workers a living wage.

Then you have a situation like Europe, where waitstaff don't give a fuck because they're guaranteed a paycheck.

The q.t. waitress at the local bar/restaurant where my friends and I regularly go, makes a ton of cash in tips (that she can fudge on her tax return) because she's friendly and quick.

[Anonymous No.17714100]

>>17714090
>like Europe
Europe isn't a single country, stinky burger, and has a huge variance between countries like Portugal (similar to Japan in the way that eating out is sometimes cheaper than homecooking) and places where it's impossible to open a restaurant
A staff that "doesn't give a fuck" gets fired either way and the back of the restaurants are often staffed with as many illegal immigrants as possible to reduce the costs, no matter if the legal workers earn an acceptable minimum wage

[Anonymous No.17714119]

>>17714090
>where waitstaff don't give a fuck because they're guaranteed a paycheck.
or maybe, just maybe, they just didn't put up with your fucking bad manners and your basis of "lazy" is balanced on sucking your dick like you're the only person alive. People like you need to just be honest. You want to be fucking cunts to other people, and you want to get away with it with no consequences. That's why you enjoy the current state of the services industry. And you see absolutely no problem with getting ""good service"" through fear motivation, and building an entire sub-culture around illegally circumventing the tax system

I don't work in a restaurant and I don't give cuck size tips, but I also don't feel the need to belittle other people and terrorize them to make my PP big. I also think fudging your tip taxes is just as bullshit as e-thots not being taxed for their patreon pay piggie money, or billionaires being able to hide their liquid assets in panama

[Anonymous No.17714134]

>>17713991
>>17714088
Maybe you could have a shred of common sense? If you aren’t ashamed of whatever you’re tipping, then why do you give a fuck if you’re on a board?

[Anonymous No.17714136]

>>17713574
If I saw that, I would deliberately give a name like Hugh Jass or Mike Hunt and just not bother tipping, paying only in exact change. Then again, I don't tip much, if at all, it's a reward, not an expectation because you as an employee chose a profession that pays 2.50 an hour and becuase the business you work at is too cheap to pay a wage. I've been lambasted, chased out, and threatened by a purple haired SJW (not even joking) and a manager actually threatened to call the cops for not tipping. I dared him.

[Anonymous No.17714137]

>>17714088
>'Shitty Tipper' is subjective.
Since you seem to have never actually been to a dining establishment (or anywhere that isn't a Cambodian rice wine imageboard), I'll explain to your autismo ass what the agreed upon procedure is when eating out, since you are so retarded as to be unable to comprehend anything that is not written down.

In America, it is expected that you are to tip about 20% of your bill to your server. We even have laws in place that deal with this exact concept, and work by assuming that they will receive this tip. Most resturants these days even show suggested gratuity amounts on the receipt. If you receive quality service and tip less than 20%, you are, objectively, a shitty tipper.

[Anonymous No.17714145]

>>17714137
>Most resturants these days even show suggested gratuity amounts on the receipt.
Ah excellent, thank you for answering the question. So they could easily put a minimum tip amount on the receipt to avoid being put on the wall of shame, correct?

Otherwise, what if I tip 15%? Is that wall of shame territory? 14? 13? If you're going to put someone on a wall there has to be a threshold, no?

[Anonymous No.17714148]

>>17714136
>Hugh Jass
>not Hugh Janus

[Anonymous No.17714156]

>>17714134
If they're going to publicly humiliate someone they should at some point indicate what the % tip it would be to get put on that wall

[Anonymous No.17714158]

>>17714080
It's not even about being mentally retarded. If a business does not explicitly outline costs on the bill, you are not legally required to pay it. But please, show me a federal law, hell where you are required to tip.

[Anonymous No.17714159]

>>17714137
>Cambodian rice wine imageboard
posting stupid shit like this is a dead give away that you're a transplant from reddit.

[Anonymous No.17714162]

>>17714090
why did the artisit do this to doma

[Anonymous No.17714164]

>>17714148
Janus Painus

[Anonymous No.17714170]

Oh cool another tipping thread, been a while

[Anonymous No.17714175]

>>17714137
>We even have laws in place that deal with this exact concept, and work by assuming that they will receive this tip.

I asked this before, captain faggolina, show me the exact federal law stating I have to pay a tip at every restaurant I eat at, even if that gratuity is not listed on the bill.

If it's not on the bill at the end of the meal, you don't have to pay. It's that fucking simple. Social Mores and Social Expectations =/= Laws.

[Anonymous No.17714185]

>>17714145
>So they could easily put a minimum tip amount on the receipt to avoid being put on the wall of shame, correct?
As I said, they most likely do.

>Otherwise, what if I tip 15%? Is that wall of shame territory? 14? 13? If you're going to put someone on a wall there has to be a threshold, no?
The treshold for the image that started this would appear to be a 3% tip or less, which is quite shitty.

[Anonymous No.17714188]

realistically I would tip to be normal but these threads make me hate amerifat servers lmao

also going to other countries with way better food
might just be a based anti tipper if I go back

[Anonymous No.17714190]

>>17714185
Then I will only tip 4%

[Anonymous No.17714193]

>>17714175
>>17714137
legally speaking he is correct. the entire onus of tipping is 100% social pressure, there is no legal backing to it. This is because the entire practice is a work around of paying wait staff a wage. There are laws allowing restaraunts to pay wait staff under minimum wage, with the expectation they will be tipped. There is no law compelling the tipping

>A tipped employee engages in an occupation in which he or she customarily and regularly receives more than $30 per month in tips. An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the federal minimum wage. If the employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference. Many states, however, require higher direct wage amounts for tipped employees.

In theory a business is require to pay the waiter the difference in Min. wage if they fail to meet the amount but they would just terminate you for doing a poor job then. Also you are legally required to declare tips on your taxes, pretty much every waiter in the country is or has committed tax fraud.

[Anonymous No.17714194]

>>17714158
Yes, you are not required by law to be a decent human being. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make since nobody has argued this, but enjoy being put up on the wall ig.

[Anonymous No.17714206]

>>17714159
>you're a transplant from reddit
posting stupid shit like this is a dead give away that you're a transplant from reddit.

[Anonymous No.17714213]

>>17714194
when did it become normal in the USA for restaurants to be the only single type of business to get this kind of leeway on wages for slow business?

[Anonymous No.17714214]

>>17714190
Then you will be put on the wall, because 4 is much less than 20.

[Anonymous No.17714216]

>>17714214
Oh my apologies, I'll tip 5% then

[Anonymous No.17714221]

>>17713469

• Any preachy shit where they let the homeless eat for free. Then you get transients coming in and wanting free shit and spazing out because they want more, were "disrespected" or some other dumb shit.

• Covid surcharges, mentions of "new normal" or any charge that is just a mystery line item. Either raise your fucking prices or decrease portions, but don't be a gypsy.

• Retarded names. It started getting popular after Bob's Burgers to do funny names, punny names, etc. A cool name is fine, but don't go redditfag on me.

[Anonymous No.17714233]

>>17714194
How the fuck are they supposed to know your name? Also, If I saw this, I'd Grandpa Simpson my ass out, calling them communist faggots as I did so.

[Anonymous No.17714245]

>>17714216
king

[Anonymous No.17714249]

>>17714216
>he thinks paying 1/4 of what is expected is socially acceptable
Really going hard to get as many sperg points as possible I see.

[Anonymous No.17714259]

>>17714249
Navigating the arbitrary waters of life, my front house friend
>>Sir do you know how fast you were going?
>No sorry, what's the speed limit?
>>Really going hard to get as many sperg points as possible I see.

[Anonymous No.17714265]

>>17714233
>How the fuck are they supposed to know your name?
It's on that magic plastic card that lets mommy and daddy get whatever they want for free little Timmy.

[Anonymous No.17714274]

>>17714194
Entitled dick nozzles like yourself are the reason I don't go to restaurants any more. I either just cook at home now or get the occasional In-N-Out.

[Anonymous No.17714275]

>>17714265
Implying I use my credit card or bother with purchasing alcohol, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.17714282]

>>17714259
>speeding laws are the same thing as social norms
I'm not even sure what you're trying to accomplish at this point.

[Anonymous No.17714283]

>>17714213
Well it's America, and it started around the civil war. So guess.
>At least two accounts state that there was no tipping in the United States prior to 1840, Kerry Segrave writes in "Tipping: An American Social History of Gratuities." Wealthy Americans are thought to have brought tipping back to the United States from lavish trips to Europe in the years leading up to the Civil War.
>In 1915, several states passed laws prohibiting tipping, which was a growing practice but unpopular at the same time. All six of the bans were overturned or ruled unconstitutional by 1926.
>"When these states banned tipping, it was because they were trying to discourage whites from tipping instead of actually paying former slaves," Jayaraman told the Post. Of six states that made tipping illegal, five were in the South, where the idea was that only Black workers were making tips because "you only tip inferiors," Jayaraman explained.
>Tipping was codified in 1938 as part of the New Deal, Jayaraman has said, because the Fair Labor Standards Act allowed federal minimum wage to be earned through wages or through tips.
This was a compromise to help it get through congress.

tl;dr, because nobody wanted to pay emancipated slaves, who mostly found work as unskilled labor such as wait staff or porters.
I will now be going out to the store so I won't see your /pol/ shitposts or soyjacks

[Anonymous No.17714289]

>>17714282
Social norms aren't having a wall of shame for people who don't meet your arbitrary tipping goals

[Anonymous No.17714291]

>>17713469
Too many frequent price increases

[Anonymous No.17714299]

>>17714137
>20%
Bitch, its 10%. 15% at most, only if you really like the place or food or the service overall.

[Anonymous No.17714300]

>>17714283
>tl;dr, because nobody wanted to pay emancipated slaves
that's very antisemitic of you

[Anonymous No.17714304]

>>17714274
Never worked at a resturant in my life, so idk what you're on about.
>>17714275
You asked how they got the names, and I told you. How you choose to pay is irrelevant to how those names got up there.

[Anonymous No.17714308]

>>17714304
learn2read nigger

[Anonymous No.17714347]

>>17714289
Yes, but it does not go against any norms as well. Not tipping does, and is arguably even a taboo. I see no issue.

[Anonymous No.17714359]

>>17714347
>but it does not go against any norms as well.
I think that's arguable. The number of restaurants that have a public shaming wall I'd imagine is quite the minority. The kinds of people who work at front house in restaurants though are the types that usually can't hammer down anything but arbitrary feelings anyway.

[Anonymous No.17714399]

>>17713469
I stopped eating at restaurants about 7 years ago. Before not eating at was cool. I see more and more people rejecting the poor quality to price ratios, tipping "culture" shakedowns, and the new dubious covid-era fees. I approve of the decline of restaurant businesses. I believe that culinary creativity and skill will increase across the board as more people generalize in their daily lives. Culturally we have forgotten how to cook. Thus shitty and mediocre "professional" cooks have become acceptable to us. Putting up with weird as fuck service industry worker social power play dynamics should end.

[Anonymous No.17714406]

I only tip the chefs. Bringing me my food is not a big deal and I might as well get my plate myself, lol.

[Anonymous No.17714478]

>>17714283
pick up an orange, fool

[Anonymous No.17714513]

>>17713469

>your feedback is appreciated

Submit this:

>I will no longer eat at your establishment precisely because you come up with dumb-assed 'solutions' to problems which are entirely of your own choosing. Pay a standard wage and stop customers from tipping to individuals. Any 'tips' that are received are saved up until the end of the month and then redistributed equally to all staff members.

[Anonymous No.17714520]

>>17714090
>where waitstaff don't give a fuck

Eiuropean waitstaff have something called professionalism and in fact service in Europe (and UK) is generally better than the USA. Stop with this deluded fantasy that the world is so mean and cutthroat and out to get ya you fool.

[Anonymous No.17714529]

>>17714136
I would assume they got it from the card rather than asking everyone's names. I guess they could use the names of the person who booked a reservation but getting it from the card makes most sense
So if you don't want to be called out, just pay in cash.

[Anonymous No.17714542]

>>17714520
>the world is so mean and cutthroat and out to get ya
It isn't?

[Anonymous No.17714556]

>>17714529
when I make orders or reservations I always use the name Otto after Otto I, holy roman emperor and victor over the magyars

[Anonymous No.17714557]

>>17713574
How is it that everyone who works in the industry on here works in an up scale expensive place? I find that very hard to believe. Like why even lie? It’s anonymous. No one knows you.

[Anonymous No.17714570]

>>17714557
Most people don't want to admit that they work in dead end jobs (although plenty of people still admit to it here on 4chan) and not everyone is a degenerate NEET loser on here. I'm sure some of them are lying but I'm also sure that some of them do work in high end establishments. There are people on /g/ that work in FAGMAN.

[Anonymous No.17714571]

when i go out to eat the best thing to get is depressed.

[Anonymous No.17714574]

>when the owner considers himself kitchen staff

[Anonymous No.17714588]

>>17713469
dont have a fav place but if they fk up my food twice I wont eat there again..same goes for too much time I have to wait for my order..it can happen once, if it happens twice thats it.

[Anonymous No.17714826]

>>17713574
That...Does not sit well with me at all.

[Anonymous No.17714841]

>>17713469
why not raise prices by 3% instead of having this bullshit

[Anonymous No.17714855]

>>17713469
Why? I didn't hire them. If there is an issue you want to address with their pay, that's your job, not mine. I'm just here to eat food.

[Anonymous No.17714916]

>>17714156
Yeah that’s the thing. Don’t leave a tip where you’d find the % embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.17714945]

>>17714841
Because virtue signaling. They want to have an instagrammable picture that can be posted on social medias that Social Justice Warriors and Yaas Queens can blab about "muh socialism" and "workers' rights"

>>17714542
No, it is. This user is retarded. Read the 48 Laws of Power. Nature hates a vacuum, and humans will exploit a cheat wherever they can find it.

>>17714529
Just use cash. A place that doesn't take cash isn't doing business with me anyways.

[Anonymous No.17714982]

They killed off tipping in Ontario now, so it's quite literally not my problem

[Anonymous No.17715007]

>>17714136
Incomprehensibly based, tipping is the most retarded thing on earth and I will never engage in it

[Anonymous No.17715027]

>>17713469
I have 0 problem with this since it means I no longer have to tip, correct? If this means the staff gets paid fairly (and if the food is good quality) by all means raise the price 3%.

[Anonymous No.17715082]

>>17713469
You don't like them breaking down the pricing structure for you? They could have just increased the prices by 3%, said nothing about it, and only given 2% to the kitchen staff.

[Anonymous No.17715206]

why do the people who are actually making the food get paid less than the people who just carry it out to your table anyway? if they wanted to "close the gap" maybe they should force the servies to share their tips with the people doing real work that couldn't be replaced with a conveyor belt.

[Anonymous No.17715228]

>>17713469
I used to work in BoH at a restaurant, kept getting told that tip sharing was coming soon. Never did
Regularly had FoH staff complain that they *only* made 300 dollars in tips in a night when that was a weeks work for the rest of us. Fuck those guys

[Anonymous No.17715250]

>>17714090
They bring your food to table, how much fuck up they can make

[Anonymous No.17715316]

>>17713574
>I don't know what kind of asshole wants to be all stiff and boring when he's eating and drinking.
I like acting fancy sometimes, and fancy equals stiff and boring with a hint of condescension to my plebeian brain.

[Anonymous No.17715362]

>>17713469
If I'm going out to a sit down place I expect to pay a bit of a premium, so price doesn't really matter to me, it's how I'm treated and how the food is that will keep me away.
A sports bar that had decent food and good atmosphere lost my business because of that, been there many times to watch a game or race but last two times I went was just awful.

Now if it's a pop in and out spot the price, and food matters. If prices go up too much I'll just look elsewhere, if food quality drops same thing. There was a place I used to go to all the time but then the usual guy I guess quit and the new guy fucked up my order every time I went there. Not going back.

[Anonymous No.17715401]

>>17713478
This.
Waiters ad waitresses are parasites, and they frankly ruin my meal whenever I eat out with their presence.

[Anonymous No.17715412]

>>17714916
My % that wouldn't be embarrassing is whatever gets me on the board + 1, are thresholds a difficult concept for plate bringers?

[Anonymous No.17715420]

>>17715206
https://youtu.be/hNuu9CpdjIo

[Anonymous No.17715432]

Just add it to the net price. What the fuck is wrong with people?

[Anonymous No.17715441]

>>17713586
YOOOO IS THAT COUSINS??? LOVE THE CUZ?

[Anonymous No.17715447]

>>17714090
bruh here in sweden we don't tip and the service is just as good as the states. We don't fall for the scare tactic of "work hard or else you'll be a failure forever"

[Anonymous No.17716246]

>>17714359
The wall does not break any societal norms. There is no shared opinion that walls of shame are bad, while there is a shared opinion that not tipping is bad. Not following any norms is not the same as purposefully violating preexisting ones.

[Anonymous No.17716277]

>>17713469
>front of house gets minimum wage
>chefs out back get $80k/year
BUT WE NEED TO CLOSE TEH GAP GUIZ!!!!!

[Anonymous No.17716286]

>>17713714
>that sort of public shaming should not be legal
its not legal
it's defamation

[Anonymous No.17716294]

>>17714090
>waitstaff don't give a fuck because they're guaranteed a paycheck.
ive experienced the opposite
every country with tipping that ive visited the waitstaff are stuck-up annoying cunts that passively-aggressively harass you every 2.5 minutes trying to fish for tips

when you have waitstaff that get a normal wage like everyone else they can just focus on actually doing their job well instead of "what ass-sucking can I do to make an extra $1?"

[Anonymous No.17716355]

>>17713469
I would guess americans would figure out a way to tip their cooks by now.

[Anonymous No.17716370]

>>17713574
>6.50 is a shitty tip
wtf what are you expecting for bringing some food to a table

[Anonymous No.17716373]

>>17714134
I don't like being doxxed, zoomer. I'm not some faggot that had my real name and address plastered over social media my entire life.

[Anonymous No.17716388]

>>17714136
>because you as an employee chose a profession that pays 2.50 an hour and becuase
Friendly reminder that if a waitress doesn't make enough in her 2.50 plus tips to equal minimum wage then the employer must make up the difference. Even if you tip 0 dollars, a waitress is always guaranteed minimum wage.

[Anonymous No.17716396]

https://youtu.be/dTaUliCxN_o

[Anonymous No.17716429]

>>17714557
Because only the people that work in places worth mentioning actually comment. Hundreds of thousands of people post here. I'm unemployed right now. Are you also gonna comment on how it's weird only neets comment?

[Anonymous No.17716447]

>>17716286
Telling the truth isnt illegal. Reconsider voting in the future.

[Anonymous No.17716570]

>>17713574
Why make a wall of shame of the times their service was dog shit and list the customers name but not the waiters? Kinda pointless IMO.

[Anonymous No.17716605]

>>17713469
So you'are a cheap asshole, noted.

I'm taking this is bait.

[Anonymous No.17716612]

>>17713578
The problem is that a lot of tip-based employees can potentially earn shittons more than any meager minimum wage, not all of them of course, but enough of them combined with the people/companies who run the restaurants have a stronger say than those who would prefer a flat wage.

[Anonymous No.17716636]

>>17714137
Any tip at all is a charitable bonus

[Anonymous No.17716643]

>>17713469
just charge more for the damn food then. this is just stupid.

[Anonymous No.17716645]

>>17714137
>>17716636
Not saying you shouldn't tip, but in my region 18% is a "Good" tip, and 20% and up is a "Great" tip.

It might be higher in places like california with super high cost of living, but 20% isn't the "minimum".

[Anonymous No.17716649]

>>17713479
Why not just change the prices ? Or give menu without prices and charge whatever the fuck you feel like to customers.
>"I'll take the $8 burger"
>"It's $8 for the food, $5 to cook it, $6 to bring it to you, another $5 for employees healthcare, $10 for employees house mortgage, + tax + tip"

[Anonymous No.17716659]

>>17716643
That won't work anon, because the Tip culture still exists, and so long as the "pay your employees correctly" requirement isn't enforced on EVERYONE, people will just get confused and think the resteraunt charging more is being greedy (And think they still have to tip there due to culture), and that single business will end up going out of business.

In order to fix this, wage laws would need to be changed so the staff would have to be paid minimum wage BEFORE tips to bind everyone, to start to change the tipping culture to be like europe.

[Anonymous No.17716661]

>>17715228
fuck waitstaff

[Anonymous No.17716671]

>>17716659
Just ban tiping in your restaurant. "Staff can't accept tips". Write tips and taxes included on your menu.

[Anonymous No.17716673]

>>17716388
then they get fired for forcing the employer to dig around their bellybutton to come up with some pennies to cover the waitertress

[Anonymous No.17716686]

>Had an italian place I really liked
>On the pricey side ($25-$30 a person surrounded by $5-$10 a person restaurants) but the food was phenomenal
>Owner died in an accident
>Owner's kid takes over
>In a couple months everything on the menu has had its price hiked 10-20%
>The portion sizes got smaller
>Last I heard they stopped using the fish market two blocks away and started ordering bulk frozen fish from sysco
>Final straw for me was when the sauces had either been made with water instead of stock or were outright watered down, couldnt tell which

[Anonymous No.17716694]

>>17716673
>Underperforming employee gets fired for not doing a good job.
Wow, that never happens in any other business!

[Anonymous No.17716695]

>>17716671
they should just make it so tipping is done anonymously. it could be a jar by the door or something. the only reason I tip is fear of getting my food spit on.

[Anonymous No.17716703]

>>17716695
>the only reason I tip is fear of getting my food spit on.
What? First, you tip at the end after your food has already been prepared and eaten. Second, the tip goes to the waitstaff, not the cooks in the back room.

[Anonymous No.17716707]

>>17716659
yeah, i get it, but “insert woke multinational or Portland coffee house that pulls this kind of shit” wont go out of business by increasing menu prices by 3%

[Anonymous No.17716709]

>>17713574
>The American tipping system is a travesty and the food service workers who put up with it are massive cucks.

No, they make way more from tips than they would a regular wage. Waiter faggots prefer the tipping system. They are parasitic scum and tax cheats.

[Anonymous No.17716710]

>>17716694
>get the fucking MAGA assholes who refuse to tip
>Get narcistic sociopaths who literally get off on abusing workers and obviously don't tip for that reason
>get church crowd who are both pissed they just wasted time at church and also feel self righteous because they just came from church and don't tip
>End up with no money in tips because you got shitholes for customers
>ITS YOUR FAULT, WHY DO YOU HATE CAPITALISM!?!

[Anonymous No.17716715]

>>17716703
Most people go to a resteraunt more than once anon; The people working there remember the customers, so if you're not planning on never coming again, its a precaution.

[Anonymous No.17716717]

>>17716370
It's pretty dismal on a $200 tab. Assuming about $20 per person, that's a table of 10. 6.50 is less than if each person pitched in $1 for a tip.

[Anonymous No.17716721]

>>17716710
If you're that fucking unlucky, you deserve to get fired for that too. If those are really such blatant trends, then other waitstaff would see if too.

[Anonymous No.17716722]

>>17713469
tipping in restaurants should work the other way round - I'd rather tip the guy who cooked my food than the disinterested surly wagie who brought it all the way from the kitchen to my table. I know which one is doing the actual work in that scenario.

[Anonymous No.17716723]

>>17714945
>Read the 58 Laws of Power.
>assault_specialist_mkii_by_ianskie1_d60hv3f-fullview.jpg
you are so cool and tough. you are mowing down alien communists with your epic spacer assault ride. you are the imperium. you are jordan peterson. you are powerful. i love you. i'm going to kiss you. i'm on my knees for you. unzip your space marine jeans

[Anonymous No.17716728]

>>17716723
sorry, meant to type rifle. i was distracted, quivering in my boots at this guy's masculine aura

[Anonymous No.17716730]

>>17713679
How do you figure?

[Anonymous No.17716748]

>>17716694
in the US you will find stark differences between states that have "at- will" employment vs contract employment.

states with at will employment generally all pay waitstaff 15 bucks an hour.

but small town shitholes that only know employment through tradies tend to go with contract employment.

https://www.hrdirectapps.com/blog/at-will-vs-contract-employees-discipline-termination-rights/

[Anonymous No.17716750]

>>17716722
Not so simple there anon, you're also discounting the server maintaining constant attention on your table to anticipate refilling your drinks or bringing more things like bread/butter out as your party depletes them.

Not saying the kitchen staff doesn't also need to be compensated, but there are still many things a waiter/waitress provide for your dinner experience.
Nothing worse than having a shitty waiter who barely refills your drink as you eat your meal so you're having to eat a salty/spicy meal while sucking the dregs of your ice as it melts because they're too busy watching another table.

[Anonymous No.17716782]

>poor fuckers in the kitchen doing work all day cooking cleaning and maintaining the hot as fuck kitchen with barely a moment to even check their phones
>paid slightly above minimum wage, no tips

>entitled limp wrist faggot waiter who gets passive aggressive against anyone who even so much as looks like they don’t tip, and if they do poor service and get a poor tip they will perpetuate the cycle against the customer with continued poor service to spite them
>also gets tons of free time and spends have their shift scrolling on twitter complaining about tips
>gets hundreds of dollars in tax evaded gratuity tips and never fails to complain to kitchen colleagues how they didn’t get $300 in tips last night

[Anonymous No.17716786]

>>17716715
>The people working there remember the customers
Have you ever worked retail or food service before? They legitimately do not unless you're exceptionally shitty, and leaving no tip is, again, at the end of the meal so you would not be remembered until it had happened a few times.

>Most people go to a resteraunt more than once anon;
Not really, no. Most people eat out multiple times a week, but at different places. For reference, there are 24,000 restaurants in NYC. Someone could eat at a different restaurant every single night and it would take them over 60 years to get through them all.

[Anonymous No.17716790]

>>17716750
the easiest way to kill a restaurant business is to make the waitstaff and cooks hate each other

[Anonymous No.17716798]

>>17716748
I don't really see anything even close to that when I look at the data. States with at will employment tend to pay their waitstaff the least based on what I could find.

[Anonymous No.17716818]

>>17716786
I work retail asshole, yes, we do remember customers. If they're not regulars, sure they'll fade into memory. But if they're a regular who comes to that location every week/2 weeks, yes, you will goddamned remember them, other employees will remember them, and you will have conversations about the various people who come there.

[Anonymous No.17716823]

"Can I get you the ususal then, hun?"

[Anonymous No.17716835]

>>17716818
Cool, and how many times have you spit into a customer's food? Or if you're retail and not food service, how many times have you spit into their bag or stolen their cc info or given them incorrect change or don ANYTHING to a customer you disliked other than maybe being a bit curt to them?

[Anonymous No.17716866]

>>17716649
because the goal is not to actually help the employees, but to show the customers how much they "care"

[Anonymous No.17716870]

>>17716798
My takeaway from that would be that there's no correlation at all.

[Anonymous No.17716871]

>>17716835
Alright, so we See you're moving the goalposts here on your initial statement:
"Service people don't remember!"
>Get told and proven to be an ignorant idiot full of shit
"I know! I'll move the goalposts and instead state "Well nothing bad will happen!"
So yeah, your argument now is "They can't spit in my food!"
You go on there champ, lets see how well things turn out for you. As I don't work food, I can't say yes/no there, but I wouldn't put my faith in it.


Secondly, as for what have I done in retail to assholes, since I CAN talk about that?
Lets see, there's been about 10 times in the past month when I've used corporate policy to deny people asking for discount prices on products that don't apply for that product when for other people who aren't assholes I just use the "Give customer money" code (Yes, stores have those even if its not called that, since corporate just tells employees to literally bribe customers who get pissy) to just give them a discount when they ask.
So yeah, I know of a few backlashes for assholes where I work at least.

[Anonymous No.17716873]

>>17716818
just make sure you remain fixed on the fact that they never speak about you or think about you at all

[Anonymous No.17716878]

>>17713469
What is the point of calling it some gimmicky name and making a poster about it? If they had just made the menu items slightly more expensive they'd accomplish the same result without making customers feel like they're having extra money taken for weird reasons.

[Anonymous No.17716879]

>>17716871
>deny people asking for discount prices on products that don't apply for that produc
So... When people are shitty you just actually follow policies? Wow. I'm so scared. You really showed me that not tipping is terrible.

[Anonymous No.17716888]

>>17716879
"official" policy, when 99% of the other people just get the discount money anyways even if they don't apply.
Generally unless its a super huge amount people will ignore what the actual written stipulations are and give a customer a discount or markdown to make them happy, as the job of retail is to satisfy people and have them leave happy.
If a salesperson is being a hardass and holding to the fine print, its usually because you've earned it.

[Anonymous No.17716900]

>>17716888
I'm going to gamble here and say that the amount I save by not tipping will more than even out with whatever sale you're trying to push over the course of a lifetime if I eat at a place multiple times. And if I eat there only once, then it will definitely cancel out.

[Anonymous No.17716906]

>>17713574
In San Francisco, waiters get a minimum wage of $16.32 (higher than all but one country in the world), and are expected to get given about 20% of gross sales on top of that, the prices of which are already tremendously inflated because the real estate is some of the most expensive in the world.

In California, it is infinitely better to be a waiter/waitress than own a restaurant. But somehow, people do it even though almost all of the profits flow to the waitstaff. (waitstaff take 20% of gross after already getting paid, where the average restaurant is lucky to break even.)

[Anonymous No.17716908]

>>17716900
Look, we've already established that you're an asshole that doesn't tip.
That's cool. Just don't be a regular at a resteraunt and you're golden. But most people frequent resteraunts bi-weekly or even weekly if they like them, and that's generally who'll be the one's worrying.

[Anonymous No.17717102]

>>17716246
> There is no shared opinion that walls of shame are bad
What does that even mean? Have they done studies?

[Anonymous No.17717119]

>>17716710
kek just projecting your hatred of everything the tv told you to

[Anonymous No.17717180]

>>17713574
Is this even legal?

[Anonymous No.17717190]

>>17717180
If they get the names from credit cards, no. If the names are voluntarily provided by some other means, yes.

[Anonymous No.17717192]

>>17713469
My local coffee joint started charging an extra 4% like that so I stopped tipping them.

[Anonymous No.17717199]

>>17713469
Wait so you have to pay for the wages of THEIR employees? Wtf is this weird champagne socialist Marxist capitalism bullshit?

[Anonymous No.17717209]

>>17713574
Wait this restaurant actually doxes their clientele? Wtf how are they not sued for this shit?

[Anonymous No.17717249]

>>17713469
Wait staff/servers/waitresses/waiters/hostesses etc are basically food prostitution. You're literally paying and tipping for the adrenaline rush of feeling good about giving money to someone bringing your meal and maybe deluding yourself that they're your "friends". Convince me otherwise. The whole restaurant industry is a scam.

[Anonymous No.17717255]

>>17714399
>Culturally, we have forgotten how to cook
Thanks, feminism!

[Anonymous No.17717267]

>>17716823
I'm pretty sure I would be rock hard walking down that staircase listening to women insult me

[Anonymous No.17717344]

>>17716710
>Blaming the customers for your shitty service aka your job

[Anonymous No.17717363]

>>17716715
They have so many customers it'd be hard for them to remember who the fuck you are. Unless you did something notable like puke all over the dining floor or something. No way the cookstaff would know what you fucking look like. Waiters would also probably not remember you unless you touched their butts or whatever

[Anonymous No.17717371]

>>17714090
>where waitstaff don't give a fuck

Who gives a shit?

[Anonymous No.17717378]

>>17717371
Why go to a restaurant if you don't get to feel like a pampered lord?

[Anonymous No.17717392]

>>17717378
to eat food thats different then the shit cooked at home

[Anonymous No.17717397]

>>17717392
Yeah but it's a given but that most people eat out for the service in addition to the food. Otherwise we'd always have take out n delivery instead of dining in.

[Anonymous No.17717444]

>>17717190
You can get business cards with any name on it you want. If they pull it from there it might not even be their name.
My friend got a personal business card and put my name on it as the LLC as a joke so what would they do then?

[Anonymous No.17717531]

>>17717397
Maybe its time to stop doing that.

[Anonymous No.17717540]

>>17717531
I think Covid is killing the dining in experience for most people, it's gonna get worse now than before if restaurants add these stupid 3percent hikes. Most businesses will survive by delivery not having a place to dine in. Good cause wait staff are literally fucking cancer for the food sector.

[Anonymous No.17717541]

>>17717209
>brag about being a shitty tipper on 4channel
>get angry at the possibility of being publicly exposed as a shitty tipper
hmmm

[Anonymous No.17717544]

>>17717397
I get carry out and then eat in my car in the parking lot

[Anonymous No.17717591]

>>17717544
Based

[Anonymous No.17717608]

>>17713469
>we value our kitchen staff that's why we're going to make you pay them instead of giving them a raise ourselves :)

[Anonymous No.17717651]

>>17713469
Amazing how America is the only country that is so blatant in telling restaurant customers that they, not the business, are directly paying the employees and nobody seems to give a shit.

[Anonymous No.17717667]

>>17717651
it only caught on so that business owners could get away with paying freed slaves $0 to work

[Anonymous No.17717689]

>>17716710
Get a better paying job, faggot. Get some skills that are more than just bringing out a dinner plate.

[Anonymous No.17717728]

>>17716447
voting's compulsory here so i'm gunna donkeyvote specifically to piss you off anon

[Anonymous No.17717869]

>>17717255
You have access to the internet, there's no excuse to not know how to cook

[Anonymous No.17717871]

>>17716717
And?

[Anonymous No.17717898]

We went to a Thai place last week where the bill came to about 48 quid, and we left two pound coins to round it up to 50.

Seems fair

[Anonymous No.17717907]

>>17717608
You know they need the customer to cover all expenses plus pay a little more than that, right?

[Anonymous No.17717941]

>>17713479
goddamn they can fucking afford it. what's their major malfunction? I can get that someone like me who lives off cheese might not patronize the place but some of these people have timeshares and yachts. are you fucking serious?

for me it was just mask policies. I have assburgers, anything covering my face will make me hyperventilate.

[Anonymous No.17717962]

4chan honestly put me off going to restaurants ever again. I know the "stories posted here are exaggerated" blah blah, but reading enough of them, I just end up with the conclusion it is absolutely not worth letting strangers handle my food.

[Anonymous No.17717977]

>>17717267
>I'm pretty sure I would be rock hard walking down that staircase listening to women insult me

Yeah but how would you handle the deafening silence when you reach the bottom?

[Anonymous No.17717995]

>>17714233
Tipping culture is capitalist as fuck you lazy retard

[Anonymous No.17718180]

>>17716612
Yeah I get that but the business should pay higher wages to the back of the house instead of taking it from tips or charging customers even more. It’s all so they don’t have to pay.

[Anonymous No.17718189]

>>17716906
>Living in San Francisco
It's your own fault

[Anonymous No.17718201]

The things that get me to stop visiting a restaurant are rising the prices but yet also cutting the portion size and / or quality. I understand places need to raise their prices to counteract manufactured inflation and so forth, but don't charge me more for less. Also, bad service. I'm pretty patient and understanding having worked public facing jobs myself, but when the wagies are so lazy and inept they can't be bothered to get basic shit right or pay enough attention to know what I ordered, I usually dont return.

[Anonymous No.17718207]

>>17718201
Yeah I've been going less and less, given the service has been getting worse and worse for a higher and higher price.
If I go at all nowadays it's because it's a holiday or I'm out with friends.
It's just not worth it when I can cook for myself.

[Anonymous No.17718227]

>>17713555
Women are trash

[Anonymous No.17718305]

>>17717977
The only congratulations I require are my own.

[Anonymous No.17718324]

>>17713469
If they kept must wear mask things on their buildings after states lifted the horrific mandates. I fucking hope you go out of business and lose your house and have to go into a medicaid shithole and get abused by the staff when you get old you stupid fucking pussy wops.

[Anonymous No.17718326]

>>17716866
When places beg for money to say that they donated it it makes me want to bomb their headquarters and put their board members heads on pikes in front of the ashes. Their children too.

[Anonymous No.17718342]

>>17718326
Yeah, that shit bothers the fuck out of me.
Pick whether you're a charity or a for-profit business, please. There are tax credits for donations as it is.

[Anonymous No.17718346]

>>17715228
>>17716661
fuck cuck chefs LMAO

[Anonymous No.17718360]

>>17714557
I really don't care if you believe me or not, man.
I don't read the fast food threads, but I would assume there are people who work in that industry posting in them.
This thread is about "real" restaurants where the food is brought to your table, though, so you're going to get replies from people who work in those places.
I'd tell you exactly where I work if it weren't for the fact that we are a very small staff and I'd practically be doxing myself.

[Anonymous No.17718368]

>>17713574
I just want to eat somewhere that I don't need to be seated next to some smelly rube who doesn't appreciate good food and wine. A dress code ensures that even if they have no taste at least they have enough self awareness to concern themselves with how others see them

[Anonymous No.17718374]

>>17717907
no they don't you lose

[Anonymous No.17718381]

>>17718324
he mad

[Anonymous No.17718396]

>>17717898
lol you fucking mingebag

[Anonymous No.17718429]

>>17718368
Our prices keep out the "rubes", anon.

[Anonymous No.17718530]

>>17718396
relax bro he said it was a Thai place

[Anonymous No.17718556]

>>17718429
>thyself
This is clearly more of a dumb entitled young cunt thing than a melanin one

[Anonymous No.17718585]

>>17718530
>dat wirr be $49 for rice an coconut milk, stupid white monkey

[Anonymous No.17718606]

>>17713469
So the restaurant is just admitting that it underpays the cook staff?

[Anonymous No.17718678]

>>17714090
>then you have a situation like Europe, where waitstaff don't give a fuck because they're guaranteed a paychec
do burgers really believe this

[Anonymous No.17718763]

>>17717541
we get it you work a job where you rely on tips to not make minimum wage

[Anonymous No.17718977]

>>17718324
>baker refuses to make a cake for gays
based based this is his right to refuse service to whoever he wants
>manager asks you to wear a thin piece of cloth over your face
kill yourself this is HORRIFIC!

[Anonymous No.17719014]

>>17713574
The more shit I see talking about how tipping is obligatory, the more urge I get to not tip waiters at all. I can kind of understand tipping the back of the house since they slave over a stove actually doing work, but the pack mule expecting something like 20% instead of almost a flat fee into their pocket is retarded.
I spoke to a wage friend about it also who was very vehemently against abolishing tipping in favor for a higher base pay and the reasoning was that he and every other waiter/waitress he knew was actually fine with the system because it brings in insane money if the restaurant is a busy one.
It's max jewing but somehow they have some sick mental gymnastics where the asshole in the situation isn't the employer exploiting them, it's the customer who should pay an absurd fee because they decided to buy the pricer entree and alcoholic beverage that night.

[Anonymous No.17719017]

Their delivery guy fucking killed a guy from my workplace because he was a fucking indian driving wrong-way and my guy on motorcycle had no chance in a frontal collision

[Anonymous No.17719121]

>>17716645
>having invited some friends, bill is like $300
>give the waiter 50 fucking bucks on top for simply bringing the food to the table
>that's somehow not considered a "great" tip by burger standards, technically not even a "good" one
Holy shit I know if I lived in the US I would refuse to go to any restaurant out of spite and principle.

[Anonymous No.17719232]

>>17718977
>he believes in the binary dichotomy
>2022

[Anonymous No.17719333]

>>17716710
yes, get out of my fucking restaurant you black cat. take you bad juju with you

[Anonymous No.17719337]

>>17716710
>contempt for the clientele
>narcissistic
>vulgar
>in a skilless job a literal retard can do
Yeah I wonder why you’d get fired. Surely its because of the customer.

[Anonymous No.17719346]

>>17719121
How is he going to buy coke with only $50? he was expecting at least $70

[Anonymous No.17719354]

Americans will defend to the death their incredibly fucked up tipping system and also mutilation of their babies dicks. What a fucked up third world country.

[Anonymous No.17719356]

>>17718429
>call them a nigger
>they prove you right
every time

[Anonymous No.17719373]

>>17716823
this guy's a pussy. i'd walk it even if there's no compliment to be found by the bottom stair

[Anonymous No.17719394]

>>17719373
All of us would, half this website is just insulting each other.

[Anonymous No.17719407]

>>17713469
but workers already have their income, why do they need to receive extra for performing what they're being paid to do?

[Anonymous No.17719411]

>>17719394
it’s gonna be a long fuckin staircase

[Anonymous No.17719437]

I did curbside delivery for carabbas for a few weeks last year
I ended up doing 100% of the work and answering all the phone calls while 7 girls stood and watched me because I was "in training"
every time I got a tip I had to go inside and give it to one of the girls because I wasn't allowed to take tips until I was done training
then when I got out of training I had to spliut tips between those girls
THEN they did a shit test on me over the phone and when I fucked up an order they put me back in training so I couldn't get tipped again
this is the only resturaunt I've worked for and I quit as fast as I started
why are they incapable or paying their employees?

[Anonymous No.17719450]

The whole restaurant experience is so irritating now that I'm waiting until the inevitable big shift when most of them close before I start going out again. Get robots, eliminate tipping, whatever just figure it out.

[Anonymous No.17719451]

>>17719354
tips are not mentioned anywhere in this

[Anonymous No.17719516]

>>17713469
NGL it's really amusing how badly restraunts are at managing themselves. Like just adjust prices to COGS, no one needs a speech. That being said, you dipshits continue to complain about how expensive everything is, BUT KEEP EATING OUT

You can only choose 2
>quality of service
>continuity of service
>even price indexing
>speed of service
>ingredient quality
>product quantity

[Anonymous No.17719561]

>>17713578
>never understood this

Right, it is because you are a child with no experience in the real world.

[Anonymous No.17719568]

>>17713469
If any item on the menu has mayonnaise I won't go. I'll check and walk out.

[Anonymous No.17719580]

>>17719568
Unfathomably based. Fuck sushi

[Anonymous No.17719717]

>>17719561
No because I live in a country where all of our taxes create a social security net so people who are already poor, such as restaurant workers, don’t have to be exploited by bad bosses and a bad system. We also have better labour laws that don’t allow such low pay. Enjoy the hellscape known as the United States

[Anonymous No.17719727]

>>17719717
But being upper middle class in the US is pretty godly. If you can get over the moral issue that you actively exploit people, it’s a really nice place to live

[Anonymous No.17719735]

>>17713469
Why not just tip 3% less?

[Anonymous No.17719772]

>>17719437
you sound like a beta

[Anonymous No.17720489]

>>17719516
I can get all 6, it's only faggy waiters that feel entitled to shekels because they brought out a Pepsi.
Need more conveyor belt restaurants like the autistic nips do, cut out waiters and kick them to the curb.

[Anonymous No.17720539]

>>17720489
wouldn't work in America people would just steal food that aint theirs

[Anonymous No.17720570]

>>17719717
>Enjoy the hellscape known as the United States
you better believe it

[Anonymous No.17720647]

>>17714090
>where waitstaff don't give a fuck
they give a fuck if they want to stay employed. Also I hate fake smiles so theres less those.

[Anonymous No.17720658]

>>17719437
I would pay to have seven girls watch me work.

[Anonymous No.17720669]

>americans still can't grasp that waiters can be paid a living wage AND still receive tips
>like every other country in the world

[Anonymous No.17720701]

>>17719717

I fucking hate this style of europoor the most. Lmao everything you like has been a disaster and only was even possible because your daddy America pays for all the military protecting you. I hope your shithole gets invaded by Russia next and America does nothing. You will probably wish your politicians didn’t just use the tax money to buy votes from poorfags

[Anonymous No.17720717]

>>17718678
I've been to france, italy, and england, and yes, your waitstaff literally don't give a fuck

[Anonymous No.17720732]

>>17718429
dont get it, they are mad because the white couple had their tables cleaned out first? who cares about this kind of thing

[Anonymous No.17720744]

>>17719735
b&r

[Anonymous No.17720765]

>>17720701
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.17720788]

I propose the following:
-cook staff gets paid a total salary
-wait staff get what they get
-tips collected by the wait staff will be put into a total and then divided equally to every wait staff member
Call me the Lenin of restaurantour

[Anonymous No.17720791]

>>17713469
My actual favorite closed down years ago, and similar places just aren't the same.
Other than that, a lot of fast food places I like can't keep a full crew that's trained and I don't don't want to sit or stand in line for fucking ever.

[Anonymous No.17720805]

>>17720788
make a restaurant and then you make the rules, otherwise you're just a pink faggot jawboning

[Anonymous No.17720843]

>>17714137
>imagine saying this like you're proud of it
Please just kys instantly

[Anonymous No.17720848]

>>17716388
They're supposed to but it doesn't always happen

[Anonymous No.17720869]

>don’t tip
>”you shouldn’t be going out to eat if you can’t afford to tip!”
>”you shouldn’t be working for optional tips if you can’t handle when someone chooses the option not to tip you”
This didn’t happen but it’s irrefutable

[Anonymous No.17720871]

>>17720848
Not my responsibility to make sure everyone's employer is following the law. Do I have to make sure that every retail employee I interact with is getting at least minimum wage and is properly compensated for overtime and sundays or holidays too and then give them money out of my pocket to make up for it if they aren't?

[Anonymous No.17720882]

>>17715441
HOLY SHIT I THOUGHT THAT WAS ONLY IN MY STATE

[Anonymous No.17720901]

>>17720805
oh, do YOU own a restaurant?

[Anonymous No.17720908]

>>17716388
This implies they are hired as minimum wage workers. As long as they make minimum wage through tips they shouldn’t be expected to be given any more than that.
Therefore, 20% is often overshooting it the majority of the time

[Anonymous No.17721583]

>>17719017
>motorcycle
Anyone who rides a motorcycle is basically saying that they're fine with dying pointlessly in a car accident and they're willing to take the risk.

[Anonymous No.17721594]

>>17720901
Yep, a little place called Subway. Ever heard of it, bitch?

[Anonymous No.17721730]

>>17714916
I find anything above 10 embarassing

[Anonymous No.17721739]

>>17721583
This but for all vehicles

[Anonymous No.17721775]

>>17714090
>duhhhh without tips da waitinx has no in-sent-iv to do a good job :)))))

How about getting fired for shit work you pigger

[Anonymous No.17721807]

>>17716277
>front of house doesn’t do anything that can’t be done with a plate on a roomba
>back of house makes the food

Anon, you open a restaurant without kitchen staff and I’ll open one where there aren’t any waiters and we will see who is more successful

[Anonymous No.17722501]

>>17713469
Paying a lot for mediocre food and unproperly cooked beef.

[Anonymous No.17722506]

>>17714520
>Eiuropean waitstaff have something called professionalism
European here.
No they do not.

[Anonymous No.17723249]

>>17714221
>•
Tourists get the rope.

[Anonymous No.17723263]

>>17716373
>m-muh zommers
Imagine being a poorfag with no real accomplishments apart from being born before an arbitrary year

[Anonymous No.17723288]

>>17714399
>>17717255
>Culturally we have forgotten how to cook
Just because you're a social reject in the current era doesn't mean the current era is bad.

[Anonymous No.17723292]

>>17720717
They don't give a fuck because they serve amerilard in tourist traps that will never manage to complain because they don't know the language.
Or maybe it's just plain cultural barrier. As a French person, I was uncomfortable around american waiters that kept pestering me about everything. I just need my food to be delivered at my table and if I need some shit I'll ask. Fake smile fake kindness, all they want is money.

[Anonymous No.17723345]

>>17720701
>american
>calling other countries shitholes
Lel. Finland for example has accomplished all the things mentioned in the post before and they have a large army compared to the size of their country. We also have less niggers.

[Anonymous No.17723352]

>>17713469
It should be straight-up illegal to add random charges on top of the list prices. US is fucked up as usual.

[Anonymous No.17723362]

>>17714249
Anyone who expects 20% deserves 0%.

[Anonymous No.17723401]

>>17723345
>We also have less niggers
you have finns, we'll call it a wash

[Anonymous No.17723435]

>>17716686
That's a pity

[Anonymous No.17723478]

>>17723263
Imagine being so used to plastering your name and address on everything that you think it's okay for everyone to know everything about you. I'm calling you a zoomer not to pull rank, but because millenials and everyone before that were told from minute one of the internet to not share anything about their real life no matter what. And then you fags came along addicted to social media from the day you were born.

[Anonymous No.17723573]

I like my American tipping culture because $30+ an hour from tips while not driving away business with high prices. People are less reserved with their money AFTER the meal.

It just works

[Anonymous No.17723777]

>>17716906
imagine living in that homeless infested shithole.

[Anonymous No.17724037]

>>17713469
This is based though?
Cooks deserve more pay than the fags running around holding plates and getting groped.

[Anonymous No.17724104]

>>17720539
This, unfortunately

[Anonymous No.17724111]

>>17723263
Underage

[Anonymous No.17724152]

>>17724111
You're literally proving the picture correct, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.17725147]

>>17724152
And?

[Anonymous No.17725152]

>>17723292
I didn't go to tourist traps. I actually speak french quite well, and was in the farmlands of Nice and more. No, your waitstaff is far more cantankerous than our's. Maybe it is cultural, but we enjoy having waitstaff ask us how we are doing.

[Anonymous No.17725532]

When the food is bad. I don't even know how to tip, so it's not something I think about.

[Cock and ball torture No.17725649]

>>17714399
People like you are why I have fantastic job security selling ingredients

[Anonymous No.17725757]

>>17716717
Tip should not scale to price. If I order a $1000 bottle of wine, do you deserve $100 for bringing it to me?

[Anonymous No.17727079]

>>17713469
WHAT IS "NOT MY PROBLEM"?

[Anonymous No.17727105]

Why don't places in America just pay more and adjust the cost of meals for that?

[Anonymous No.17727119]

If you tip in civilized places (Japan, Europe etc.) you are considered rude because you're implying that the establishment doesn't pay their workers or that they are poor. The jewnited states actively engaging in that is just beyond disgusting and proves them as the humanoid filth that they are.

[Anonymous No.17727278]

>>17722506
european here. yes, they absolutely do. they do not fuck around with fake niceties, they do not put up a friendly facade, they just do their job. you know like a professional would. I'm not there to make fake smalltalk so you can trick me into giving you a better tip, just bring me the fucking food so i can talk to my friends.

[Anonymous No.17727296]

>>17716717
It's half of minimum wage. They want guests to pay their wage since the establishment is too cheap, there you go, work two tables in that hour and there's your pay.

[Anonymous No.17727310]

>>17713574
the people who dine in high end restaurants with strict dress code are the types who sperg at you for not wearing masks or having yourself vaccinated. It's not a class thing. It's a control freak thing. They're salty because they will never get promoted as managers in their own shitty wagecage office job

[Anonymous No.17727998]

>>17716723
kek

[Anonymous No.17728024]

I have no favorite restaurant but I will sure as hell never step into one that enforced higher corona restrictions

[Anonymous No.17728069]

>>17723345
True, my country is getting invaded but at least I know when Muhammad throws a grenade at me I don’t have to pay for the hospital bill. Unlike the United States where victims of your subway miss fire will be in debt forever from their hospital bills.

[Anonymous No.17728085]

>>17720701
True, my country is getting invaded but at least I know when Muhammad throws a grenade at me I don’t have to pay for the hospital bill. Unlike the United States where victims of your subway miss fire will be in debt forever from their hospital bills.

[Anonymous No.17728095]

>>17719727
Yeah I’ve been to the states like six times, it is really nice, I loved montana and Colorado the most but for some reason your government really hates your poor people. The ones that make basic society operate, they can’t get paid well, access to things that’ll improve their lives like education or healthcare and then everyone shits on them for being poor.

[Anonymous No.17728098]

>>17720669
That's because corpos run the government here, not the other way around, just as God intended.

[Anonymous No.17728114]

>>17728095
you guys have been infected with a mind virus that affects how you view reality

[Anonymous No.17728117]

>>17716649
Because it lets you falsely advertise the prices to bait people into overpaying.

[Anonymous No.17728120]

>>17728114
Yes the horrible virus of everyone deserves help when they’re at their lowest point in their lives, how will we ever move on.

[Anonymous No.17728133]

>>17728120
this. the REAL problem with society is that we just don't help people enough. how does nobody except europeans from the past 20 years understand this?

[Anonymous No.17728159]

>>17725757
Pretty much this.

[Anonymous No.17728167]

>>17714090
I am not a lonely simp who needs to pay women for kindness and attention lmao you should seriously consider suicide

[Anonymous No.17728277]

>>17716722
Yep. Tipping the wait staff just encourages them to be annoyingly "friendly" cunts. Tipping the cooking staff encourages them to make the food really nice. I'd rather tip for good food, fuck service.

[Anonymous No.17728367]

>>17728133
Everyone evolves at a different pace, amerisharts are clearly just underdeveloped

[Anonymous No.17728518]

>>17713469
The Land of the Fee

[Anonymous No.17728693]

>>17718429
I hate Canadians so damn much.

[Anonymous No.17729270]

>>17713574
Holy fucking based

[Anonymous No.17729402]

>>17716782
the free time means you aren’t getting tips lol

[Anonymous No.17729464]

>>17713714
Your name is up there isn’t it