/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.17644619]

how much food do fat people actually eat

[Anonymous No.17644636]

>>17644619
nobody knows.

[Anonymous No.17644645]

its a good question, I often wonder how my obese flatmate keeps his 400lb frame when I only hear him make his microwaved meals at night. must just be snacking all day on candies

[Anonymous No.17644654]

I honestly don't eat a lot anymore. I drank pretty heavily to the point where I've got a lot of hard abdominal fat that makes me queasy if I try to gorge like I used too. I still drink like a fish and snack a lot, but I'm genuinely baffled by my fellow fat people who gorge and binge eat without puking. I can barely pack away two burgers (buns included) without hitting that stomach limit and yet there are actual people out there scarfing down 5+ fully loaded burgers plus fries in one go.
I'm kind of jealous, honestly. Eating used to be one of my favourite hobbies.

[Anonymous No.17644661]

Some fat bodies are better at holding onto those last few calories, but in the end the calories have to come from somewhere, eat less than you expand and you will lose weight, it physics

[Anonymous No.17644666]

Insulin sensitivity does effect fat storage

[Anonymous No.17644667]

>>17644661
>it physics
Sadly, the human body is not as simple as a bomb calorimeter and a lot of people die fat and wind up burning down crematoriums.

[Anonymous No.17644674]

>>17644667
Oh yeah? That's something that happens "a lot"? Sure thing

[Anonymous No.17644676]

>>17644619
>I've only true both options and fucking hated calorie restrictive reason
Yes, fat person, if you do not enjoy it then certainly, it must not work! When are you planning to publish?

[Anonymous No.17644679]

>>17644619
At 140kg and being a povvo rentoid, I would eat a 200g block of chocolate, 160g bag of chips and 2 dominos 5 dollar pizzas with a bottle of ranch. Plus I would lie in bed all day. I could easily do it again, but I choose not to

[Anonymous No.17644680]

>>17644674
Yes, fat people often die fat due to the myriad comorbidities that occur alongside obesity. The crematorium thing was a joke. Most funeral homes have safety precautions in place.

[Anonymous No.17644682]

>>17644619
Sugar more than anything, at least in America. If you’d asked me a few years ago, I would’ve been able to tell you the science of it, but it just boils down to processed food, with sugar at the helm. Dr Robert Lustig has written several books on the subject, which are approachable for beginners.

The gist is: the American processed food industry adds sugar to everything. I’m not even talking about desserts. Every sauce, every dressing, every batter, every bun, every beverage. Remember the Irish government refusing to give Subway’s bread a “bread” classification, because the sugar content was too high? It’s that, across the board. And Subway is considered the healthy option.

If you cook for yourself and don’t drink soda, you’ll never be obese, and probably never even overweight. But if you’re eating microwaved meals, drinking soda, getting fast food, and eating whatever’s convenient, you will eventually start gaining weight. Never mind that sugar is demonstrably addictive, and if you try to break away, you will withdraw.

And if anecdotal evidence is your thing: I once dropped all added sugars, and exclusively ate from home (but still mostly ate pasta, beef, and butter, and got full every night). I went from 170 to 155 in about three weeks. And of course you miss the sugar at first. But after a few weeks your body adjusts, and then cake and candy and soda will disgust you, and fresh fruit is suddenly your go-to dessert, and the weight falls off, and your mind is clearer.

[Anonymous No.17644684]

as a fatass it mostly comes from drinking a shit ton of soda juice or booze

[Anonymous No.17644687]

>>17644619
These people are just willfully ignorant. They're the flat earthers of the nutrition world.

[Anonymous No.17644690]

>>17644619
>how much food do fat people actually eat
A shitload
t. fat

[Anonymous No.17644693]

>>17644679
I didn't understand any part of this post. Are you perhaps Australian?

[Anonymous No.17644697]

>>17644693
>Ranch
I doubt he is Aussie
T. Aussie

[Anonymous No.17644703]

>>17644697
I am Aussie. Praise ranch with dominos pepperoni is good

[Anonymous No.17644715]

>>17644697
You can get store-brand ranch at woolies, what are you on about?

[Anonymous No.17644721]

>>17644680
>Most funeral homes have safety precautions in place.
how do i spot the ones that don't a-anon?

[Anonymous No.17644724]

>>17644619
Processed shit with lots of fat and carbs but no protein while doing nothing physical. Also they drink sodas all day. Not even starting with trash food like chips, sweets and stuff like that.
Cico.

[Anonymous No.17644726]

>>17644715
You CAN but it's not exactly popular

[Anonymous No.17644732]

It's an addiction, just like some people can be addicted to drugs and alcohol, some are addicted to food.

[Anonymous No.17644735]

>>17644726
I know, it's disgusting, but for the economically-minded fatbody, it does exist as an alternative to the imports.

[Anonymous No.17644739]

>>17644732
Sugar should be a restricted substance, you can't eat it until you are over 18

[Anonymous No.17644740]

>>17644619
I didn't eat a lot when I was fat but I didn drink plenty of soda. When I went I cut out soda and empty carbs I lost 40ibs

[Anonymous No.17644741]

>>17644682
>Irish government refusing to give Subway’s bread a “bread” classification, because the sugar content was too high

>In Subway's recipe, sugar makes up 10% of the weight of the flour

Holy shit it's insane

[Anonymous No.17644746]

>>17644739
Restricting and heavily taxing cigarettes hasn't exactly had promising results. I know men who would rather go broke or otherwise grow their own tobacco than quit.
Gov't intervention isn't really helpful.

[Anonymous No.17644753]

>>17644680
I heard from a reputable source (Anonymous on 4chan) that fat people are freighted to the zoo to be cremated in the ovens used for large wildlife

[Anonymous No.17644756]

>>17644682
Yeah, people don't even know how many calories they consume. That's why they're fat. If you cook at home and make everything from scratch you don't have to count calories. But with processed food you'd better be careful. I've also cut out added sugar, and it's the best thing ever. I think I read the average person consumes 65lbs of sugar a year in the US. That's just the average, so I'm sure the super fat people are consuming closer to 100lbs or more. Imagine that.

[Anonymous No.17644757]

>>17644741
Yep, you get it. When the American public tries to “diet,” they skip dessert and go to subway, or maybe get a salad (iceberg lettuce smothered with dressing (garlic powder + hydrogenated oils + corn syrup)). The sugar and caloric intake remains the same, they don’t lose weight, and they don’t understand why.

I can hardly blame them though. Have you actually read the food pyramid? The food education is abysmal. And the processed food companies have reeeally pushed the “a calorie is a calorie” myth.

[Anonymous No.17644759]

It could be just as much or even less than you

The common thing is the sedentary lifestyle that preserves the calories eaten

[Anonymous No.17644763]

>>17644746
>Sugar addicts go broke or arrested for growing cane
I see this as a win

[Anonymous No.17644769]

>>17644763
We've seen plenty of sugar taxes carried out in various countries with no favourable results. People will either pay the price or get their "fill" elsewhere.
Hell, I'm a massive alcoholic in a country with some of the highest liquor taxes in a non-Muslim nation. Degenerates make do.

[Anonymous No.17644770]

>>17644756
> If you cook at home and make everything from scratch you don't have to count calories. But with processed food you'd better be careful.
You said it perfectly. But just imagine my surprise when I started LOSING weight with an omelette breakfast and penne alfredo dinners. For fucks sake, I probably ate more. It’s absurd. A literal fucking joke. I’ll never get over it.

[Anonymous No.17644775]

>>17644636
Like niggers, accurate record keeping is a mystery to the fats

[Anonymous No.17644781]

>>17644759
>sedentary lifestyle
i have what people would consider a "sedentary lifestyle" and i am far from being fat

>>17644763
>>Sugar addicts go broke or arrested for growing cane
never happened

[Anonymous No.17644858]

>>17644619
So, as an obese (albeit not morbidly) guy who've been counting calories for ~two months, I can give you some insight on that.

I went from 125 kg (275 lbs) - my highest weight ever - to 112 kg (247 lbs) by basically counting calories and keeping my daily intake in the 2k calories range.
I'm not strict about it, I can allow myself to go as high as 3k (which I consider to be my "calory used daily") but generally most of the days I sit in the 1600~1900 Calories range.
I didn't do anything else - no lifting, exercising, anything until the last week, so all the results were achieved by solely reducing the amount of food I eat.
I also leave an extremely sedentary lifestyle and can spend days barely moving around.

I also didn't "cut" any kind of food, I eat more homemade stuff recently but due to different reasons that the retarded "healthy" one.
I either rely on the calories written on the package for the shit I buy (which ranges from prepackaged meals to chips, soda, and alcohol) or I weigh everything up and calculate total calories for the shit I cook. Oil and butter I use for cooking are also weighted up and highballed to be 9 Calories per gram and assumed to be fully consumed (because they pretty much are, I'd only make an exception for deep-fried shit because I clearly won't be drinking two liters of oil I used for it).

I also try to limit my "eating window" to be from 12 PM to 6 PM without being too restrictive about it. This easy form of intermittent fasting helps manage hunger, at least for me personally.

So, generally what I eat daily is a "full meal" and then "a snack" and/or "a dessert".
What I would consider a "full meal" for most people would be on the bigger side of what is still acceptable as a "reasonably-sized meal".
That one meal tends to sit in the 1100-1500 Calories range, the median being 1200.
Looking through the notes I've written down during cooking, here are a couple examples of what I would eat:

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[Anonymous No.17644863]

>>17644858
Eggs fried with sausages with toast on the side
>Bread 66g 205 Calories
>5 eggs 400
>2 sosig 400
>Oil 10g 90
>Butter 17g 153
>1248 Calories total

Rice with chicken in milk sauce
>Rice 100g 342 Calories
>Butter 16g 144
>Oil 15g 135
>Chicken 165g 400
>Onions, garlic, mushrooms 50 total
>Milk 250g 160
>1231 Calories total.

Then later throughout the day, I'll have, for example, milk tea with some cookies.
Or, maybe, a bag of chips with some soda.
Or yogurt with a bit of jam.

Sometimes, I would order a pizza, which can go up to 2400 Calories on its own, but I go for the smaller ones recently, + 225 from a 0.5l bottle of Coke, but I'll then keep that as my only meal of the day.

What I've realized, is that before I started counting calories, I could easily eat a pizza (2400) along with a 2l bottle of Coke (900) as just my dinner, despite earlier that day eating "a breakfast" which would be at least 3/4 of my "full meal", i.e. at least 900 Calories, as well as "a lunch" which would be that "full meal" of ~1200 Calories. On top of that, I'd snack on a bag of chips, or two, or three - each worth about 350 Calories.

Even the same "full meal" can be easily blown up to be in the range of 1600-2000 Calories with some liberal oil and butter use - without looking as if it's "drowning it in oil/butter".

In particular, I have to be mindful of eating various snacks (like potato chips or nachos) and fast food because it doesn't feel as filling for the calories you consume when compared to proper meals.
So, when I eat my "full meal" - I feel full and content. When I eat ~1200 Calories equivalent meal from McDonald's, for a while I feel like I could've eaten another one right away.
When they were selling flaming hot Cheetos here, which I absolutely loved, I'd eat about 4-5 bags of those (~350 Calories each) with 400-500 Calories worth of soda, on top of the 1-3 "full meals" I'd still have.

Basically, I was consuming 3000~6000 Calories daily, hence obesity.

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[Anonymous No.17644919]

>>17644619
They're fat because they grossly underestimate how much they're actually eating, so ignore any claims from a fat wording claiming to eat less than 3000 calories a day.

[Anonymous No.17644922]

>>17644619
fat people lie

[Anonymous No.17644927]

>>17644654
Eating is not a hobby, it's a basic biological function.
That's like saying breathing is a hobby.

[Anonymous No.17644930]

>eat half of a slice of bread
>run on a manual treadmill hooked up to a car battery for 12 hours
>solve entropy

[Anonymous No.17644936]

>>17644927
>Eating is not a hobby
I disrespectfully disagree. This is, after all, a board for food hobbyists of all sorts.

[Anonymous No.17644938]

>>17644922
well they certainly don't run!

[Anonymous No.17644942]

>>17644619
Hyperobese fuck here, 470 pounds. I eat about 2,600 calories a day including all little extra shit like dips sauces and snacks. My meals are about 900 calories each on average and I eat 2 a day. I also intermittently fast 16h and don't eat/drink sugar.

I gained 50 pounds in the last 2 years doing this.

[Anonymous No.17644945]

>>17644619
When I was an obeast I weighed 170kg (390lbs) and most calculators gave me a BMR between 3500 and 4000 calories a day.
So just assume that the real fat ones eat over 4000 every single day

[Anonymous No.17644956]

>>17644942
>I eat about 2,600 calories a day
literally how

nigger

[Anonymous No.17644958]

>>17644942
Anon, if you can magically generate fat out of thin air, you should just stop eating and achieve Nirvana and immortality.
You were clearly selected as the next Buddha and are now only missing enlightenment.

[Anonymous No.17644959]

>>17644942
put less in, move around more

[Anonymous No.17644961]

>>17644942
Well yeah when you don't move you get fatter.

[Anonymous No.17644968]

>>17644956
How what? I'm utterly sedentary.

Food today:
4 pieces of bacon, 4 eggs scrambled with 2.5tbls butter, 2 piece buttered toast (small bread) for meal 1
About 1/3 a box of fettucine (550cal) and 1 chicken breast with about 2/3 cup alfredo sauce for meal 2
No snacks today. Average day.

>>17644959
>>17644961
>>17644958
Duh. I'm not making excuses I'm responding to OP. Fat fucks don't have to eat 4,000 calories a day to stay and gain fat like the drama trash on TV says.

[Anonymous No.17644971]

>>17644968
>4 pieces of bacon, 4 eggs scrambled with 2.5tbls butter, 2 piece buttered toast (small bread) for meal 1
you fat cunt that's the breakfast of someone who's bulking

[Anonymous No.17644972]

I have a (diagnosed) underactive thyroid, basically the only thing that actually gets me to lose weight is fasting, intermittent or prolonged. Fortunately fasting is easy as fuck.
Saves money on food desu, I can maintain weight and an active outdoors job on 1500 calories a day. I'll go over this if I'm aiming to gain muscle.

Fatsos just have to accept the clown nature of their situation and just stop eating if they apparently keep gaining weight on "normal" diets, like >>17644958 says.

[Anonymous No.17644974]

>>17644971
idgaf I eat my fill. Suck my dick nigger you aren't going to work my fat off why do you give a shit.

[Anonymous No.17644979]

>>17644619
When I started counting calories to lose weight I realized I was regularly eating 3,000-4,000 calories per day. I was close to 300 lbs at the time and had no clue I was eating anywhere close to that much.

[Anonymous No.17644980]

>>17644974
just don't understand how anyone can get that fat, and don't understand how they can then carry on being ok with being that fat.

[Anonymous No.17644987]

Why don't fat people just stop eating?
If they're like 300lbs, they could go down to a healthy weight if they just stopped eating for 6 months and drank only electrolytes.

[Anonymous No.17644990]

>>17644980
I'm not ok with it. I'm simply at the limit of effort I'm going to put into it. If it were easy I wouldn't be fat.

[Anonymous No.17644994]

>>17644990
you have 1 piece of bacon, 3 eggs made with less butter, and one bit of unbuttered toast instead of your bloater breakfast. congratulations, you're now consuming less.

[Anonymous No.17644995]

More than they can count.

[Anonymous No.17644998]

so if one of these fatties stopped eating altogether and they died of starvation they would leave a fat corpse behind?

[Anonymous No.17644999]

>>17644942
lyin tometa

Even if you are 470lbs (you are probably much heavier), even if you were 6ft 6in (you are probably much shorter), even if you did literally nothing all day long, you would need almost 4000 calories.

You fat fucking liar. The truth is easily revealed. >>17644995

[Anonymous No.17645000]

>>17644987
Because their oversized engine hungers for more fuel. Not to mention they got planet size in the first place because they have some undergoing problem. They probably equate food with happiness or something.

[Anonymous No.17645002]

>>17644990
It takes more effort to cook and eat something than it does to not cook and not eat something.

[Anonymous No.17645008]

>>17644990
It is easy, most people aren't fat.
Do you have a job, probably not.
You watch a screen almost all day long and droll a bit whenever you browse /ck/.

[Anonymous No.17645009]

>>17644995
doing physical activity to lose weight is the dumbest shit ever suggested.
>you get more hungry
>you actually don't lose weight because you just change the type of mass (from fat to muscles)
>>17644999
>even if you did literally nothing all day long, you would need almost 4000 calories.
fatsos lies. they don't need that many calories.

[Anonymous No.17645011]

>>17645008
>It is easy, most people aren't fat.
anon... 70% of Americans are either overweight or obese

[Anonymous No.17645012]

I have a moderately physical job and I eat generally healthy home cooked food. If I stop there I lean out over time and I don't look great, but I don't look bad. I look like a guy who does a moderately physical job and enjoys an alright diet. I like booze though and if I drink how I want, like 2 or 3 drinks most nights I gain weight slowly and start to look fat in the stomach and face. Again very much what you'd expect, drinks too much eats ok does a manual job basically every dude out there.

[Anonymous No.17645015]

>>17645011
why are you narrowing it down to one country ?

[Anonymous No.17645017]

>>17644998
You can starve yourself for a long time if you're still getting appropriate electrolytes and vitamins. It's been proven multiple times.

[Anonymous No.17645019]

>>17645002
Most fat people don't cook, they eat fast food and snack all day.

[Anonymous No.17645020]

>>17645012
>2 or 3 drinks most nights I gain weight slowly and start to look fat in the stomach and face
protip: drop beers, drink vodka/rum/gin etc if you really want to fall for the alchohol meme

[Anonymous No.17645023]

>>17645019
>I cooked this, it must be healthy!

[Anonymous No.17645031]

>>17645023
Seriously, I make stuff at home sometimes that's way unhealthier than most restaurant food

[Anonymous No.17645045]

>>17645009
>>you get more hungry
It's called self control, train your body to realise it doesn't need to replace those calories instantly

[Anonymous No.17645049]

im fat
i don't actually eat that much but i have a major alcoholism problem

[Anonymous No.17645051]

>>17645049
I'm also fat and don't eat anything beyond normal three meals a day, but I also do fuck all physically.

[Anonymous No.17645053]

>>17645045
we're talking about fatfucks which normally can't even stop eating when they're full.
if you really want to help them lose weight you should never suggest them to hit the gym at first.
Let them lose weight with a diet first, and then after they have gained a little bit of self control then you can tell them to exercise and become /fit/

[Anonymous No.17645055]

>>17644942
>dips sauces and snacks.
Normal people do not have dips everyday hippo.

[Anonymous No.17645060]

>>17644942
>I also intermittently fast 16h and don't eat/drink sugar.
Don't do this. You're sending your body into shock so it begins to store fat,

[Anonymous No.17645062]

>>17644753
It's true. A friend of mine works at a crematorium and she tells stories about it all the time. Many crematoria are investing in larger ovens but at ones that haven't (or when the deceased is even too big for the large oven), they just do the entire ceremony but the casket is just lowered into the oven cellar but is kept there and is wheeled to the local horse crematorium after the next of kin has left.

[Anonymous No.17645082]

>>17644619
Haven't done the math in a long time but basically I only eat one meal a day but I overeat hard on that one meal. If I order pizza it's usually a medium pizza and 2 sides from dominos that I down in one sitting. It's a serious problem I'm trying to solve by doing more home cooking since it makes it harder to just add more food on top like you can ordering from a restaurant but if I start thinking about some food I enjoy like some nachos from a Mexican restaurant I tend to fall to temptation and since I don't do shit all day there's quite a few times where those thoughts will just creep into my head.

[Anonymous No.17645106]

>>17644757
>the “a calorie is a calorie” myth
But that's a truth. A calorie will always be a calorie. A calorie of excess food energy won't always be a calorie of gained fat, because the human metabolism isn't a perfectly efficient converter, but a calorie absolutely is a calorie, that's a fucking tautology.

[Anonymous No.17645120]

>>17645023
>>17645031
Cooking at home allows you to regulate what goes into your diet, and helps to prevent impulse snacks. If you have to go bake cookies from scratch, you're less likely to snack on them than if you just buy them from the grocery store.

[Anonymous No.17645122]

>>17644666
that's true, but eating less and eating healthier will increase insulin sensitivity while simultaneously making someone lose weight most of the time

[Anonymous No.17645125]

>>17645082
>medium pizza and 2 sides from dominos
how is that a lot

why cant fat fucks tell the truth not even on the anonymoose board

[Anonymous No.17645126]

>>17644679
>a quarter pound of chips and chocolate
>two entire pizzas
>entire bottle of ranch
That's at least 3000 calories a day, with most of that from the pizza alone. And I bet you drink booze and sugary soda, too.

[Anonymous No.17645130]

>>17645125
How the fuck is that not a lot, I'm talking about an entire medium pizza, 8 wings and a whole order of stuffed cheesy bread. If you don't think that's a lot for a single person then you're clearly a fatter fuck than me in denial.

[Anonymous No.17645133]

>>17645120
Generally I agree with you, I'm just pointing out it's not a guaranteed thing. Homecooked food can be ridiculously unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.17645139]

>>17645106
You're taking the phrase too literally, a calorie is literally a calorie, but what about your body's other myriad of nutritional needs? You can just eat a box of sugary cereal bars in one go because it's "just calories" and under your daily limit, and expect to remain healthy

[Anonymous No.17645142]

>>17644619
something like 1/3 of the calories americans consume comes from drinks. take the waterpill anon

[Anonymous No.17645144]

>>17644757
>Have you actually read the food pyramid?
It's too heavy on the grains but nobody really followed it. A lot of people would actually be better off if they did since it tells you to limit added sugars and junk food. It didn't tell you to eat 11 plates of pasta like some people claimed, but 6-11 servings and a serving of pasta is only 2 oz. Eating at least 12 oz of pasta per day is still a bit much but it'd be a minor problem compared to people constantly consuming junk food and added sugar with everything.

[Anonymous No.17645146]

>>17644619
I’m about 30kg overweight according to bmi. I eat less calories than my coworkers at work. I see what they get in the cafeteria from pop to desert everyday and sugary snacks in the middle of work everyday. We have a physically demanding job. Yet some people are fat and others are skinny.
I know intimately people who are seriously obese and they eat way less than I do.

So my anecdotal evidence and specialists like Lustig say that post is true. Calorie intake and calorie expenditure by themselves do not explain weight gain and weight loss. It’s not the amount of calories it’s the kind of calories. Because a calorie is not a calorie.

[Anonymous No.17645163]

>>17644863
>So, when I eat my "full meal" - I feel full and content. When I eat ~1200 Calories equivalent meal from McDonald's, for a while I feel like I could've eaten another one right away.
>When they were selling flaming hot Cheetos here, which I absolutely loved, I'd eat about 4-5 bags of those (~350 Calories each) with 400-500 Calories worth of soda, on top of the 1-3 "full meals" I'd still have.
Yeah it's mainly just any kind of junk food that's the biggest problem. It's not very nutritious and doesn't make you feel full but is still really high in calories.

Another odd thing seems to be that just how much you chew your food really does affect feeling full. A lot of junk food doesn't take much chewing to completely break down which leads to eating more.

[Anonymous No.17645168]

>>17644942
2600 calories a day is not enough to cause weight gain at 400 lbs you fat fuck, you would be losing weight at that calorie range. You're stuffing your face with snacks/candy/sugary soda/booze during the day. Literally just eat more fiber and take some fucking multivitamins you stupid fucking cow

[Anonymous No.17645169]

>>17644769
You didn’t see sugar taxes implemented anywhere.
What you saw was a soft drink tax, which is just politically popular and doesn’t have the desired effect it’s just PR for the government. In my country all pop has a tax on it including Diet Coke. But chocolate milk has no tax, juice has no tax. And juice is number one in consumer choice not pop.

[Anonymous No.17645170]

>>17645146
A physically demanding job but what do you do outside of it compared to your co workers and what do your co workers eat outside of the workplace compared to you? If all the info you have is from the 8 hours you spend together at work then you're coming to conclusions based on some severely incomplete info. There are people who have conditions sure but a vast majority do not and are simply overweight through their own actions or inaction.