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I've tried popular sake such as Gekkeikan and Dassai, but I really didn’t enjoy them, so I'm going to try some good jizake. When they come as wine, do they taste like decent muscadet or chablis?

>> No.17585669

>>17585659
sake in general tastes like shit. same with shoju. both are dranken out of necessity by pan faced chinks to get tanked and escape their miserable lives for the cheapest cost, not to taste good.

>> No.17585681

>>17585659
>jizz sake
kek

>> No.17585685

>>17585659
Honestly, I could never get into upscale sake. Give me a bottle of Hakutsuru junmai and I'm happy.

>>17585669
You're thinking of baijiu. That's the stuff that tastes like (and probably is) cigarette lighter fluid that Chinese factory workers drink to numb the pain. Sake's more like wine; you can get plain cheap stuff or fancy pompous bullshit.

>> No.17585697

>>17585659
It has fresh minerality and elegant tannins.

>> No.17585722

>>17585659
>What do good sakes taste like?
bad sake

>> No.17585731

Sake is so expensive in Shitnites States so I've only had 2 glasses from 1 bottle at a sushi bar. It was probably Chiyomusubi's Junmai Daiginjo and had rich aroma as good as Alsatian white wines. Like a Gewurztraminer with a watery texture

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>>17585659
>popular sake such as Gekkeikan
That's like saying you tried "popular wine such as Franzia".

>> No.17586910

>>17585659
salty coins and milk

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>>17585659
Gekkeikan is the Franzia of sake, as >>17585805 said.
Dassai, however, is almost universally regarded as one of the best “large” breweries. It’s an extremely good junmai daiginjo, and one of the most popular “non-micro/regional” junmai daiginjos in Japan. The 23 is what my wife and I drink on “special occasion” type days since it’s a bit pricey to be a daily drinker.

If you genuinely didn’t like the Dassai, it’s quite possible that sake in general just isn't something that appeals to your personal taste.

Can you be a bit more specific on what you didn’t like about it, or what you’re looking for?
There are all sorts of non-junmai sakes with various flavors and levels of sweetness. “Junmai” is just the sake equivalent of “Bavarian purity law”, and means the sake is made with only rice, water, koji, and yeast. Many people find non-junmai with other flavors to be more approachable.

>> No.17587002

>>17586972
What else gets added besides those ingredients?

>> No.17587117

>>17587002
Quite a number of possible things.
Same as how “wine” can sometimes have all sorts of things besides grapes and yeast.

Some people think “junmai” automatically means “better”, but that’s a retard take. It means it’s junmai and will have a base flavor profile of junmai.

But some of the more common things added to non-junmai are flavors, such as fruit juice/extract, or other things to give it a sweeter profile, or simply adding alcohol to boost the ABV% (kinda like fortified wine) while fermenting it for less time in order to sell it for a bit cheaper.

>> No.17587145

>>17585669
>”dranken”
Amerilard detected

>> No.17587153

>>17587145
>quoting the same word twice

>> No.17587201

>>17587002
different varieties are made by doing different shit during the process, using different local springwater or different varieties of rice
cooking the rice first makes okinawan shochu called Awamori which is much rougher and a bit stronger.
sometimes you get unfiltered sake which makes it look like you're drinking jizz
when i lived there a coworker gave me a bottle that supposedly tasted good because they play classical music over speakers in the fermenting room.

main thing that sucks about getting sake outside of japan is paying retardedly high prices for shit you know is $3 for a 3L bottle in Japan

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>>17587201
>main thing that sucks about getting sake outside of japan is paying retardedly high prices for shit you know is $3 for a 3L bottle in Japan
Yeah that’s pretty shit.
A big part of that is the fact that Japan doesn’t tax the retarded motherfuck out of alcohol.
American booze shipped halfway around the world is still often cheaper there than it is in America.

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>>17587464
I was about to say that $20 for Jim beam was pretty standard, until I saw it was the a handle of the shit. That's ridiculously good value.

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>>17587471
Yup, and ~$50 will get you 4 fukkin liters of it.

>> No.17587544

>>17587471
Jim Beam white label is pretty meh, California has good prices on whiskey too, back in 2019 1.75lt of wild turkey 101 cost $24, in 2022 it’s $29.

>> No.17587951

>>17587544
and just 6 years ago my PS2 was bought for $30, along with the copy of Gauntlet Dark Legacy i accidentally left in the thing. that's $400 now.

>> No.17587956

>>17587495
>4L of Jim Beam for like 65 cad

Fuck I miss Japan.