/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.17578733]

For the price is there a better brand of bourbon?

[Anonymous No.17578764]

yes

[Anonymous No.17578774]

yes

[Anonymous No.17578775]

yes

[Anonymous No.17578788]

>>17578733
for me it's Woodford Reserve or Blanton's. Both d'licious, same price range.

[Anonymous No.17578800]

>>17578733
Old Grand-Dad 114

[Anonymous No.17578857]

Old Grand-Dad's pee pee

[Anonymous No.17580043]

Wild Turkey 101 is best bang for buck bourbon

[Anonymous No.17580051]

>>17578764
No
>>17578774
No
>>17578775
No

[Anonymous No.17580753]

>>17578733
Elijah Craig does the job.

[Anonymous No.17580772]

>>17578788
>Both d'licious, same price range
Where the hell are you that they're both the same price?


Blanton's is $60 for 750ml here
Woodford is $35 for 750ml

[Anonymous No.17580915]

>>17578788
>Blanton's.
>d'licious, same price range.
where on earth?

[Anonymous No.17581092]

>>17578733
one of my favs for manhattans and man o wars

[Anonymous No.17581100]

>>17580772
From a certain point of view

[Anonymous No.17581124]

>>17581100
If you categorize it as "under $100" sure I guess, but considering 99% of people are drinking sub $40 bottles it's a bit absurd to consider $35 and $60 in the same range.

[Anonymous No.17581133]

>>17578733
>for the price
its basically the most expensive whiskey in the store before you get to aged scotch or specialty bourbons. So to your point, no, you can get something just as good or better depending on your preference for about 20 dollars less.

[Anonymous No.17581159]

>>17578733
Their rye is fucking fantastic

[Anonymous No.17581174]

>>17581133
that's bullshit, there are a TON of options in the $40-80 range at my local store.

Sure, it's on the upper scale for "normal" everyday bourbon, but there are still plenty of fairly normal bourbons that cost more.

Woodford is what I keep in my liquor cabinet for the best price/taste ratio.

[Anonymous No.17581181]

>>17581159
Yes

[Anonymous No.17581192]

>>17581159
The Rye and the Wheat are both great.

[Anonymous No.17581640]

>>17578733
Of course. First, there's every single fucking bourbon on the whiskey value chart. And I'm sure a lot more before you get to the crap you posted, OP.

[Anonymous No.17581668]

>>17581640
Woodford is a much easier drinking bourbon than the rare breed or longbranch. All 3 are great bourbon, but for every day sipping i'd take the woodford.

[Anonymous No.17581743]

>>17581640
Worst chart ever.

[Anonymous No.17582849]

>>17581668
I'm pretty sure OP asked for best bourbon price, not easy drinking.

>>17581743
>Worst chart ever.
Except for this thread, where its perfect.

[Anonymous No.17582861]

>>17582849
> not easy drinking.
If your goal is to have the best bourbon to drink in an under $40 price range, woodford is probably the best choice.

If you're looking for bourbon snob harsher bourbon that wont be liked by the average drinker, then sure there are other options (like the Rare breed and longbranch) but I don't think OP is a bourbon snob, so why should he give a fuck about the harsher to drink "better" bourbon that only bourbon snobs actually enjoy?

[Anonymous No.17582958]

>>17578733
Knob creek 9 year old.

[Anonymous No.17582973]

>>17581743
Wait, I take this back. I didn't open the image and didn't realize it's an edit of the original, which really was the worst chart ever.
This edit is actually decent.

[Anonymous No.17583014]

>>17578733
>$80 a bottle
Basically everything is better

[Anonymous No.17583246]

>>17582958
I've found that Woodford gives a much more mild hangover than Knob Creek. This doesn't matter if you're sub 30, but as you get older, smoother booze is worth the cost. I find Knob Creek is harsher thanks to that 100 proof as well.

[Anonymous No.17583302]

>>17580772
>>17580915
Well whenever I've bought them in Australia they've both been in the $70-$80 range

[Anonymous No.17583656]

>>17583302
I bought the nicer Blanton's for $70AUD last time.
It's been a couple years since the US shortage started, but I'm pretty sure that's still cheaper then they can get it now.
That said, looks like it's all gone bro.

[Anonymous No.17583707]

>>17583656
yeah I haven't seen Blanton's in stock for awhile. Occasionally you can find Woodford easy enough.

The last couple bottles of bourb/whiskey I've gotten were George Dickel (which really was pretty good) and Gentleman Jack which really was garbage. Tastes like a monkey's taint mixed with brake fluid.

[Anonymous No.17584038]

>>17582958
I dont dislike Knob creek 9, but I find 4 Roses Single barrel cheaper and tastier

[Anonymous No.17584275]

>>17584038
Do you mix this with anything? Looking for a bourbon that’s good for cocktails

[Anonymous No.17584286]

>>17584275
I usually drink it neat, but it holds up very well in cocktails

[Anonymous No.17584298]

>>17583707
Based Dickel poster. The sour mash is one of my favorites. They have a 12 year too that I've only seen once, but it has a black label, and still affordable too. worth it all around.

[Anonymous No.17584384]

>>17584286
Sounds good, I had my eye on woodford but it’s quite a bit more pricey than four roses where I live

[Anonymous No.17584813]

>>17584384
The single barrel he posted is more expensive than woodford (at least for me).

Woodford is $35, four roses single barrel is $45.

The standard four roses is cheaper, but that isn't what anon posted.

[Anonymous No.17584859]

>>17584813
In my place they're an euro apart from eachother

[Anonymous No.17584868]

>>17584859
Fair enough, I can only speak to US prices in my part of the country.

[Anonymous No.17584869]

>>17581743
amen

>>17581640
>>17582849
>>17582861
Who is so poor that they only buy cheap bourbon? I don't touch anything unless its $30+.

>>17578733
>Colonel Taylor
>Bookers
>Blantons
>Knobb Creek 9 Yr
>Eagle Rare
>Basil Hayden Toast
>Penelope
>TX Barrell Proof
>Kentucky Owl

All absolutely worth the price of admission. Woodford is too popular and like most things; their quality is starting to go down so they can sell more as it's mass produced. This isn't me being a bourbon snob or trying to sound like I don't like popular things, but their taste is going downhill; this is also what happenned to Panera bread by the way, prices stayed the same or increased and quality went down, which is why no on eats there anymore.

[Anonymous No.17584875]

>>17578733
Im (eastern) Yurpoor so good or cheap bourbon aint that easy to find here, the cheapest and most popular is Jim Beam and thats garbage, but I love bourbon and my go to is either Maker's Mark or pic related. A bit overpriced here, but its def better than Jim Beam or Jack Daniels(which is actually also really overpriced here, while being dogshit)

Oh and Four Roses, that one is pretty decent too

Ive noticed that my nearby supermarket started selling Buffalo Trace recently, I should give it a try

[Anonymous No.17584876]

>>17584869
Woodford is aged for 7 years so do you think 7 years ago woodford went, this shit is so popular we should start making it cheaper and sell more of it, they'll never suspect a thing in 7 years!

Woodford tastes just as it did a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.17584907]

>>17584875
>Buffalo Trace
Def worth the try if it's decently priced

[Anonymous No.17584909]

>>17578733
yes.

[Anonymous No.17584917]

>>17584869
More likely you're just so mentally ill that in your mind anything that becomes too popular starts getting worse, even if the product itself remains unchanged.

You're just THAT mentally ill that your mind tells you it's worse.

[Anonymous No.17584932]

>>17584869
>this is also what happenned to Panera bread
panera only had two good things ever on their menu, the cuban, and the chipotle chicken panini. once they got rid of those and then fucked up the chipotle by throwing garbage like avocado on it they were truly lost.

[Anonymous No.17584969]

>>17584907
its like 15-20 euros for 700ml iirc, not much more expensive than Bulleit

[Anonymous No.17585420]

>>17584869
>Who is so poor that they only buy cheap bourbon? I don't touch anything unless its $30+.
Anything over $30USD + tax loses to scotch. I've not had all of your list but Bookers, Eagle Rare, Basil Hayden all get crushed by similarly priced scotch.

>>17584875
Look out for abv reductions; Bulleit, Jim Beam, Jack Daniel's, Maker's Mark and Buffalo Trace all do it on at least some of their products.

[Anonymous No.17585673]

>>17585420
>abv reductions
quick rundown?

[Anonymous No.17585723]

>>17585673
Distillers cask age shit at a high abv, like 80% or more. Otherwise it'd take up twice as much space. They then water it down to bottle and sell. Purists insist their undrinkable fire water doesn't taste right unless it is upwards of 45% abv. Many producers decide to release bottlings at 40% abv and this was considered normal until relatively recently when 37.5% and 37% started to become more common. Some say it is because it allows their bottles to sit at a better price point in countries that tax based on alcohol content. Others it allows the spirit to appeal to health conscious drinkers looking to reduce their alcohol intake. Others that is allows the producers to get more product out and thus increase output and profit. Others that it makes the spirit a little 'easier' to drink and thus people consider it 'smoother' or something. Maybe all of these things, but generally spirits do drink easier at a slightly lower abv, but ... it isn't what it used to be right?

[Anonymous No.17585802]

>>17585723
>Distillers cask age shit at a high abv, like 80% or more.
It literally can’t enter the barrel higher than 62.5% abv as a whiskey.
And has to be at least 40% abv when bottled, don’t care that some Jews water down your “whiskey” lower than 40% in your 3rd world country, no one lives there.

[Anonymous No.17585824]

>>17585723
Oh, I see.
Nah, pretty much all the "common" whiskey here, both bourbon or scotch/irish is 40%. The only "hard" alcohol ive seen at 37% is vodka, now counting liqueurs and shit, of course
Actually, Ive seen some whiskey at 37, but that was one of those meme flavored whiskeys, like Jack Daniels with honey and etc

[Anonymous No.17585854]

>>17585824
>like Jack Daniels with honey
It’s called whiskey liquor, but there are some countries in the world who have no legal definitions of whiskey and that is why there is an autist that thinks whiskey is barreled at 80% abv and bottled at 35% abv despite that being illegal in U.S., Canada, Ireland, and Scotland.

[Anonymous No.17585932]

>>17578733
I dont know shit about bourbon but It looks classy.

[Anonymous No.17586094]

>>17585854
I see
So basically, if I see any bourbon bellow 40%, its not a """real""" whiskey, then?

[Anonymous No.17586098]

>>17586094
Yes

[Anonymous No.17586148]

>>17583302
I'm so sorry but you're being completely ripped off. Blanton's has always been horrendously overpriced even here, but you shouldn't be paying that much for most Woodford Reserve.

On that note, I've never seen Australian made whiskey, though I feel like your country should be able to. Is it just not exported much or what?

[Anonymous No.17586155]

>>17584875
Please be cautious, bourbon whiskey is becoming an 'it' thing too much these days and is therefore falling to all the marketing tricks and pressures as a result.

[Anonymous No.17586158]

>>17578788
Half the price for Blanton's is the collectable horsey.

[Anonymous No.17586160]

>>17584275
Maker's Mark is the standard for mixing, Bulliet wouldn't be a bad choice either.

[Anonymous No.17586175]

>>17583707
Dickel and Gentleman Jack were the last two I got as well. This is some brother from another mother shit.

Also, I agree with you. The GD is pretty great. Everyone needs to take the Dick(el) pill. I want to try the bottled in bond version if I find it near me

[Anonymous No.17586181]

>>17586148
>On that note, I've never seen Australian made whiskey
Starward, it’s good, just like scotch.

[Anonymous No.17586218]

>>17586155
>amerimutt delusions

[Anonymous No.17587018]

>>17586155
I have no proof but I am certain Redditors are behind this

[Anonymous No.17587482]

>>17578788
blantons is a meme

[Anonymous No.17587488]

>>17584275
theres only like 3 good bourbon cocktails, stick to gin and rum.

[Anonymous No.17587542]

Is Woodford a good example of an American bourbon? I had a 375ml bottle and it was okay but I have no idea where it sits in the bourbon world.

[Anonymous No.17587550]

>>17587542
It’s a good example of low proof bourbon, you need some 100 proof and higher to get a better representation.

[Anonymous No.17587554]

>>17587542
It's a very good sipping bourbon for it's price.

There are some better bourbons if you're looking to experience the entire spectrum of what's possible, but they're usually harsher cask strength or similar shit.

[Anonymous No.17587614]

>>17586175
>another mother
a-are you sure

>>17587482
YOU'RE a meme

[Anonymous No.17587659]

I find it pretty fucked up that america, the country that has almost no legal protection for food definitions and naming, manufacturing technique and geographical origin gets butthurt about what can legally be called bourbon.

[Anonymous No.17587676]

>>17587659
I agree. There should be more food origin protections in America. Coney Island hot dogs should only be allowed from Coney Island

[Anonymous No.17587682]

>>17587659
Maybe if you didn’t get your knowledge of America off of memes you’d know we have had laws on whiskey since 1897 before the food and drug act of 1906.

[Anonymous No.17587685]

>>17584875
Bullet is a safe bet. I'm a cheap fuck so I got something called Point Rider. Anyone had it?

[Anonymous No.17587762]

>>17585673
Depending on your region:
Bulleit Bourbon 45% -> 40%
Jim Beam White Label 40% -> 37%
Jack Daniel's 1907 ?% -> 37%
Maker's Mark 45% -> 40%
Buffalo Trace 45% -> 40%

>>17585723
>it allows their bottles to sit at a better price point in countries that tax based on alcohol content
The tax is calculable, they're not undercutting by enough. And If I could add $10 to any given bottle and get the CS instead that would be a godsend.
>allows the producers to get more product out and thus increase output and profit
Definitely this.

>>17585802
>It literally can’t enter the barrel higher than 62.5% abv as a whiskey
According to who? There's no such law here, and as you can clearly tell by above, the American laws don't mean jack shit outside of USA. Including in every other first world country. Don't blame us for not regulating your trash into not being bottom shelf and your companies into appearing to care about their product.

[Anonymous No.17587766]

>>17586148
It's great stuff. Pricey though.

[Anonymous No.17587789]

>>17578733
Wish I could drink alcohol, but I legit get a headache minutes after drinking it, and my stomach can't keep even just one beer down.
I've tried shotgunning 3 shots of vodka once and my friends said I "aged 20 years in 20 minutes"
I just want to know what it feels like to be drunk without feeling like shit.

[Anonymous No.17587793]

>>17587762
>Don't blame us
Nah I’m going to keep laming you third world ears, I bet you fucks are still spitting tobacco juice in your “whiskey”

[Anonymous No.17587806]

>>17587762
You fucks are drinking shit like this and blaming us because of it.

[Anonymous No.17587950]

>>17587793
If I piss in a bottle after a night of drinking Taiwanese whisky, that passes my whisky laws, I then export it to you as planned, that passes your whisky laws, you now have to enjoy your "Bourbon" or you're un-American. And it is bourbon.

[Anonymous No.17587969]

>>17587950
Stop projecting your whiskey laws on us.

[Anonymous No.17588044]

>>17587969
You haven't read your laws.

[Anonymous No.17588061]

>>17580043
This, because my local liquor store is being jewish with the WT101 handles (I think they know I spend more money when they're out), I've been trying out other bourbons with a fifth of WT101. And WT101 always beats out every other bottom shelf bourbon.

[Anonymous No.17588066]

What the hell is up with 'blended' whisky's? Are they bullshit?

[Anonymous No.17588091]

>>17588066
>Are they bullshit?
Most big brand blends are alright

[Anonymous No.17588124]

>>17588066
anon there's a whole art and science to blending booze and frankly the goal is to create a more complex, nuanced product that's better than any of the component products on their own. blending wines and whiskies is, in this casual observer's opinion, a state of the art production technique

[Anonymous No.17588644]

>>17587614

[Anonymous No.17588684]

>>17578733
this>>17580043

[Anonymous No.17588739]

In the US some states or jurisdictions ban anything with a abv% higher than 20% or force it to be sold in liquor stores only. Meanwhile liquor has to be minimum 40% usually to use restricted trade names like "bourbon" etc. This creates a strange no-man's land in the range of 21-39% abv where it's completely unprofitable to sell anything unless its a niche product or imported flavored liqueurs.

[Anonymous No.17588914]

>>17587789
Consume mixed drinks until you are used to the taste of alcohol and then start tasting spirits
Learn your limits and definitely don’t do dumb shit like down 3 shots just to get drunk. You’ll probably get absolutely pissed at some point like everyone does and figure out that spending the night praying to the porcelain god is the opposite of fun and people will make fun of you behind your back if you constantly drink too much to look cool and yak.
Just learn how to maintain a buzz and say no to people asking you to drink more than you should. People will forget you being lame and rejecting a shot in five minutes but will remember you vomiting in their house forever. Its infinitely cooler to just be the guy who handles their liquor and knows how to have a good time.

[Anonymous No.17589829]

>>17583656
I haven't seen Blanton's for less than 100 USD in forever. It sells for like 200 online now.

It's good but not that good.