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why does tea taste like shit without sugar but coffee tastes better without sugar?

>> No.17575422

>>17575412
Because you have shit taste, or are brewing the tea wrong.

>> No.17575430

>>17575422
This.

>> No.17575445

>>17575422
what's the correct way to brew tea then?

>> No.17575459

>>17575412
green tea doesnt need sugar

>> No.17575462

>>17575445
$300 equipment and leaves imported from China. My coffee costs maybe £60 at most between a dripper, a bag of coffee, cheap scales and filters.

>> No.17575464

>>17575462
$300 equipment to boil some leaves??

>> No.17575471
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17575471

>>17575445

>> No.17575472

>>17575464
In fairness I exaggerated but I think it will run you up more for a good tea set than coffee. I also forgot my kettle which is a £40 gooseneck non-electric.

>> No.17575798

>>17575472
/ctg/ will argue till they're red in the face that you need at minimum a $300+ grinder to really enjoy your bean water

>> No.17575803

>>17575445
/tea/

But you are probably just overbrewing the wrong amount of tea. The pastebin has all the times and amounts.

>> No.17575806

>>17575803
Also brew in literally anything that allows you to strain the leaves out, you don't need to buy anything unless you live like an actual goblin and dont even have a mug.

>> No.17575808

>>17575412
What shitty tea are you drinking?

>> No.17575957

>>17575798
True, I'm probably being a hypocrite since I buy pre-ground but the roast date's always within two days of delivery and the bag's done in two weeks.

>> No.17575968

>>17575459
Yes but have you ever had a bottle of chilled sweet green tea from a vending machine in some randomfuck town in SE Asia at 4:30pm?

>> No.17576006

>>17575412
Post a pic of the tea you drink, OP

>> No.17576116

>>17575472
Good tea is cheaper than good coffee by a country mile
Either get a cup strainer for $5 or a Gaiwan for $10, buy some chinese loose leaf for $0.10 per gram, and have a kettle and you've got the basics to make tea. Temp adjustable kettle is nice but you can always pour it into a pitcher to cool it down like japs do

>> No.17576136

>>17575412
tea with milk is very good, without sugar

>> No.17576164

>>17575968
no
I dont fuck trannies

>> No.17576180

>>17576116
And yet the only teas I want is $400-650 for .5kg. Great tea is more expensive than great coffee and it's not even close.

>> No.17576207

>>17576180
Not my fault you want to pay $1 per gram and pretend your $7 cup of tea is great because you're a puer lesbian.
I can get good Gyokuro for 50 cents a gram and thats the peak of green tea unless you want to go full chinese prestige culture and get long jing from the specific lake because it costs the most

>> No.17576257

>>17576207
Its not that I want to pay that. Its that I've tried them and want more. I've got ~15lbs of organic brazilian coffee greens I paid $2 an lb for. Tea is SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than coffee. Sure you can make it in a $2 leaded aliexpress gaiwan and waiting until mid april every year for trash leaves run through yakuza and have ~3 weeks to drink your fresh 50/c a gram tea you paid $45 for dhl shipping on. If the italian mafia has completely buttfucked the olive oil industry, I can't even imagine the efficiency the nips are fucking you out of your money.

>> No.17576287

>>17576116
>Good tea is cheaper than good coffee by a country mile
It depends on the roast. You need to look harder but there's some great flavours from Africa, Colombia etc.

>> No.17576385

>>17576287
https://onyxcoffeelab.com/products/costa-rica-las-lajas-natural-sl-28
Special process sl28 for 8c a gram if you pick up 2lbs. 12c a gram if you pick up 10oz.
https://www.vervecoffee.com/collections/single-origin/products/tima-guji-natural-single-origin-espresso
High altitude ethiopian landrace for $57 a kilo. Both from world renowned roasters. It really isn't close. But I should probably be paying 50c a gram for second flush gyukoro that tastes like grilled mackarel and daikon.

>> No.17576414

>>17576287
They were right when they said great tea is more expensive than great coffee but good tea is cheaper than good coffee. The cheapest of both costs basically nothing but is undrinkable.
>>17575412
Also you're wrong neither need sugar.

>> No.17576423

>>17576414
>They were right when they said great tea is more expensive than great coffee but good tea is cheaper than good coffee
That's fair. I think my usual's something like £10 for 200g. But according to OP's reqiurements they want great, not just good

>> No.17576430

>>17575462
Retard, brewing tea requires literally no equipment. Coffee is what requires all the dumb appliances.

>> No.17576487

>>17576430
>dumb appliances
We wouldn't be here as a society without mills moron. We've had small home "mills" for coffee since the late 1700s. You've somehow convinced yourself having an outside company cucking the freshness out of your grinds is a good thing.

>> No.17576497

>>17576430
https://www.whittard.co.uk/equipment/tea-equipment/all-tea-equipment
It might depend on which country's tea I'm trying to brew.

>> No.17576526
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>>17576487
>We've had small home "mills" for coffee since the late 1700s.

I know I have one of these.

>> No.17576545

>>17576526
>>17576487
These devices do not work well you need a real coffee grinder to properly macerate the beans and preserve the flavor it's important to have a consistent speed and roughness when grinding and a human cannot achieve this.

>> No.17576556

>>17576526
>You need all the dumb appliances to cook like a knife and an easily cleanable cutting surface
>I just get my ingredients pre chopped and packaged by HELLOFRESH like a chad. Use code KEK now for free minced garlic while supplies last.
Reject modernity embrace tradition or some shit. Call up SSP and see if they can't cast you some new burrs.

>> No.17576640

>>17575472
>I think it will run you up more for a good tea set than coffee
You have to be joking, right?

You literally need a method to heat water (any metal pot), another container to pour into to cool down (literally anything in the kitchen with a handle), a simple thermometer for non-black tea ($10), a strainer ($3), and a ceramic/glass cup to drink out of (any will do).

Total equipment investment: $13

A teapot is nice but unnecessary, same with gaiwan set.

>>17576257
>luxury grade is the only grade that matters except when I say it doesn't
>Tea is SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive than coffee.
No. Your argument is like saying all whisky is expensive because you happen to enjoy Glenmorangie Signet at $300/bottle. Nonsense.

>> No.17576664

>>17576164
You never lived as an 8-14 year old.

>> No.17576674

>>17576640
Just come out and say you like cheap things. Its not that hard. I've got some shit I got for $15 a kilo from KTM. Its fantastic. $100 of 90+ rated coffee greens will last me 6mo to a year. $100 order of tea from anywhere in the pastebin won't last 6 weeks of daily drinking.

>> No.17576676

>>17576430
There's snobbery, autism, and finer nuances on both ends, I will admit however just getting a cup of green tea that isn't piss leaves requires a tad more attention and a couple more steps than making coffee through a machine

>> No.17576704

>>17576674
Why make up blatant lies that anyone can check?
Go into the pastebin and go to the very first website. Click on the very first option (new products). Click on the second tea listed. You can get 1.25kg for under $100.

>> No.17576731

>>17576704
>go to the very first website.
ys.us...
>Click on the very first option (new products)
>second tea listed
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/new-products
>Why make up blatant lies that anyone can check?

>> No.17576770

>>17575472
You are a retarded shit.
You can brew tea with a spoon and a mug and boiling water. You don’t need “kit”. You can buy artistic pots and cups but they don’t produce a superior product.
The money is in the tea itself.
I probably have fermented teas older than you.

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17576949

>>17576731
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/new-products/products/yunnan-early-spring-silver-strands-green-tea-of-simao?variant=41974056157383

>> No.17576981

>>17576949
>Go into the pastebin and go to the very first website.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_processing
>https://web.archive.org/web/20190321060054/https://www.teadiscussion.com/types/index.php
Oh yeah obviously not those. He probably meant the 32nd website.
https://pastebin.com/80GeeXJV

>> No.17576986
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17576986

>>17575412
>sugar in tea
What the fuck is wrong with you?

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17577020

>>17576949
Little under twice the price as the ethiopian landrace from verve after shipping and it'll be ~55 days spoiled by the time Scott gets it out. You're not making much of a case here.

>> No.17577050

>>17577020
You can't steep coffee twice. The average cup of tea also uses less leaves by weight than coffee uses beans by weight.

>> No.17577072

>>17577050
Grasping at leaves here pal. Drink fresh roasted specialty coffee year round, but only be able to brew them once. Or drink multiple steeps of spoilied overoxidized greens for a few weeks, once a year at their "freshest".

>> No.17577086

>>17577072
Or you can buy the tea is smaller increments just like you do with coffee? Or buy an aged tea? Or stop being autistic over what drink you like to have in the morning?

>> No.17577093

If you were drinking proper tea like earl grey you wouldn't need any sugar.

>> No.17577129

>>17577086
>Or you can buy the tea is smaller increments just like you do with coffee?
From china. Yeah I'll just pay $10/100g a few times a year and wait for YS Express to the USA w/ Signature Requirement (12-24 Days) at $10.46 USD. I've got a pumi full of stuff I like to drink and a $2500 coffee grinder paid for and on the way. I'm telling you coffee is cheaper. That 18L cambro I just posted in /t/ is stuffed full of about 8 bills worth of tea. It was a much better idea to drop $200 on a hand grinder back in 2019 before starting on stashing back cakes. My last order of coffee greens was 10lbs of grade 1 ethiopian and 10lbs of specialty bali. For $130 shipped. Just paid twodog $40 for 400g of ripe to stash back for next winter.

>> No.17577260

>>17577093
Earl grey of all teas really needs a spot of sugar or honey to wake up the bergamot.

>> No.17577292

>>17577260
The rose hips do that just fine.

>> No.17577294

>>17577260
>spot
Bong identified

>> No.17577321

>>17577292
No.