/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.17513598]

why is cider so unpopular in the USA?

[Anonymous No.17513600]

>>17513598
Its not. They serve it everywhere I go

[Anonymous No.17513613]

We have really good beer, so even the best cider just seems meh in comparison.

[Anonymous No.17513619]

>>17513613
The two drinks are nothing alike…

[Anonymous No.17513623]

Your stupid generalizations about an entire country are both ignorant and wrong

[Anonymous No.17513626]

>>17513613
There's some killer cider in my state. I would get milner heritage over beer at the bars that had it

[Anonymous No.17513633]

>>17513598
The U.S used to have a massive domestic cider industry and alcoholic cider was widely preferred over beer. Then Prohibition happened, and a bunch of moralfags cut down the vast majority of apple orchards, resulting in the loss of dozens of carefully cultivated varieties of apples that were lost forever. Since grains grow much faster than apple trees, grain alcohols replaced ciders after prohibition was repealed and cider never regained its past popularity.

tl;dr fucking women ruined it for everyone

[Anonymous No.17513640]

>>17513598
It's more of a seasonal thing in my state
It's everywhere around Halloween and Christmas.

[Anonymous No.17513656]

>>17513619
That's like saying a double IPA and a lager are nothing alike, and yet they're both beer, and typically found on the same menu with ciders as another option.

[Anonymous No.17513659]

>>17513598
Its gay

[Anonymous No.17513668]

>>17513656
Beer is often found on drinks menus with wine and cocktails. Do those all taste the same too?

[Anonymous No.17513673]

>>17513668
Wine and cocktails are always listed in their own sections. Are you even old enough to drink?

[Anonymous No.17513677]

i'm confused is american cider alcoholic or not?

[Anonymous No.17513681]

>>17513598
>why is cider so unpopular in the USA?
Because it's not deep fried.

[Anonymous No.17513687]

>>17513673
That really depends on the country and bar mate. Often they just have a drinks menu in a restaurant with all their available drinks. I’m not the one that is retarded enough to think that cider tastes anything like beer. Have you ever had cider? You sound like one of those yanks that’s never left his home town.

[Anonymous No.17513689]

>>17513677
It's no. They call the alcoholic one "hard cider".

[Anonymous No.17513696]

>>17513598
>>17513613
>>17513619
>>17513633
the wave of german and irish immigration to the US (which was huge), along with the prohibtion led to beer replacing cider. cider trees, which are useless for anything but cider, were useless, and were thus cut down, which led to the death of cider because to restart it you need to regrow an orchard of cider trees from scratch which takes a long time instead of beer or whiskey which just uses fast growing grains.
cider was exclusively an anglo american thing and when anglo america died and prohibtion occurred cider died out with it

[Anonymous No.17513697]

>>17513687
>thread about american drinking culture
>"b-but it totally depends on the country, mate!"
>"you sound like an american!!"

[Anonymous No.17513699]

>>17513696
Based informative poster.

[Anonymous No.17513710]

>>17513697
So you are now happy to admit that cider is in fact nothing like beer? Look, I know American education is very poor but just because two drinks are the same colour doesn’t mean they’re the same thing. Otherwise ribena would be the same as wine. I’m glad you’ve accepted your retardation now though anon. I’m looking forward to the next seethe you come up with.

[Anonymous No.17513711]

>>17513598
Is cider particularly popular anywhere? They're sort of a regional thing in Europe, but even in places known for making cider (like Northern France or England) I don't think it's the most popular alcoholic drink.

[Anonymous No.17513712]

>>17513598
It isnt though? Super popular in New York state, Pennsylvania and washington. Those places produce the most apples but even out west and the south I've seen it on tap

[Anonymous No.17513724]

>>17513710
I've brewed many batches of cider using the same equipment I use to brew beer. I understand that the ingredients are different, but it's basically as close to beer as you can get, both in how it's made and the drinking culture surrounding it. You're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.17513725]

>>17513711
The UK. It’s still not the most popular drink but it’s very popular in the West Country. If you’re ever there for whatever reason give it a try. There’s even a bar in Bristol called the Apple that serves about 10 different types. You can her 8% cider but I don’t think it tastes all that nice.

[Anonymous No.17513734]

>>17513711
the UK is the only place where cider is really popular, it's extremely common there especially in the west country.
cider is basically an english thing

[Anonymous No.17513736]

>>17513724
It tastes nothing alike and isn’t even fizzy. I quite frankly couldn’t give less of a fuck what disgusting yank home brew you made. The similarity is superficial at best. Please seethe more.

[Anonymous No.17513747]

>>17513736
>and isn’t even fizzy
I've studied in both England and France and have had plenty of their cider. Where the fuck are you from that it's not carbonated? I'm starting to think that you might be ESL and when you say "cider" you're talking about something completely different.

[Anonymous No.17513751]

>>17513736
>It tastes nothing alike and isn’t even fizzy.
Not that guy, but you can easily make fizzy cider, just like with beer. Either force carbonate it or prime it when bottling/kegging.

[Anonymous No.17513756]

>>17513747
Spanish sidra and Austrian most isn't carbonated afaik.

[Anonymous No.17513766]

>>17513747
It’s barely fizzy compared to beer. The drinks are nothing alike. I’m sorry there are so many spastics in this thread. One is made from apples and has at best a slight fizz. The other will literally froth up if you don’t pour it on the side of the glass.

Also “studied in France and England.” You tremendous faggot.

[Anonymous No.17513776]

lots of cider apple varieties have become much more obscure, farmers destroyed them during prohibition and the chain of tradition was broken
modern cider varieties are either irradiated to prevent fermentation or irradiated post-fermentation
they lack the fun, fizzy qualities of the homemade stuff that you can make by letting your sweet cider sit outside for like 7-14 days
maybe it's just as well that it isn't very popular, since Americans already consume way too much sugar

[Anonymous No.17513781]

Europoor here
In my country we don't have cider culture and its really expensive
It's either 4.2% piss water or 6.8% costing 3 eur when beer is an euro

[Anonymous No.17513785]

I love it when trolls praise their own ignorance. It's so funny.

[Anonymous No.17513818]

>>17513598
Cider was more of an American thing until the big brewers barged into town and bullied all saloons and bars.

Then craft brewing became popular. Cider is still popular tho.

[Anonymous No.17513840]

>>17513598
do you want a meme answer or the real answer?

[Anonymous No.17513843]

>>17513840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R41YFcX8e4

[Anonymous No.17513906]

>>17513785
It really is. Pretending beer and cider are even remotely similar as drinks is some fucking hilarious shit.

[Anonymous No.17513921]

>>17513776
I think the saddest part is the death of applejack as a drink. You take your cider, leave that bitch in the snow, scrape off the frozen bits at the top that aren't alcohol, and do it again for several days. Distillation without even needing a still and as old as Odin.

[Anonymous No.17513940]

Non-alcoholic cider is pretty common.

[Anonymous No.17513982]

>>17513781
>or 6.8% costing 3 eur when beer is an euro
Jeez, 3 euros gets you a bottle of drinkable wine.

[Anonymous No.17513991]

>>17513598
Americans are health conscious and cider has too many calories.

[Anonymous No.17513994]

>>17513598
It's not unpopular. Beer is just more popular but cider is available everywhere.

[Anonymous No.17514002]

It rots your teeth.

[Anonymous No.17514008]

As a former alchy:

Cider is typically more expensive and not as enjoyable as beer. Most commercial ciders are disgustingly sweet, and give monster hangovers. Dry ciders are ok but I would still prefer a good German or Belgian over it.

[Anonymous No.17514044]

>>17513696
>the midwest is all germans
This explains so much.

[Anonymous No.17514057]

>>17514008
A different former alchy. You're right as hell about those hangovers but I loved drinking cider. The worst part about the expense is that they often came in 4 packs instead of 6 packs so you'd have to buy three instead of two packs of beer. If I was low on money I'd buy a 30 pack of cheap bud light and that'd be my weekend. I'd have to buy 7 packs of cider to come close and still be down two. The beerconimics just don't work out unless you have an intense need for something tasty.

[Anonymous No.17514074]

>>17513766
i was born and live in england and you sir are talking shite if you think cider is 'barely fizzy'

[Anonymous No.17514150]

I’m the US, every year a local place in town has an Apple Festival, where it’s seems 1/2-1/3 of the entire population shows up. They specialize in and sell apple products of all varieties, including ciders, pastries, caramel apples, apple sausage, anything you can think of. The people here love apples!

[Anonymous No.17514154]

>>17513598
I used to work in a liquor store and the only English cider we stocked was Longbow. Is that considered good cider over there? I thought it tasted pretty crappy.

[Anonymous No.17514159]

>>17514154
**Strongbow I meant lol

I wasn't bad just not very good and I'd export more from the only English import we stocked.

[Anonymous No.17514168]

>>17513681
Challenge accepted.

[Anonymous No.17514213]

>>17514057
Yeah, my favorite when I started drinking at 19 was Hornsby's. It tasted like drinking apple juice, but it wasn't cloyingly sweet. It was refreshing. Then they got bought out, the formula got reworked, and it was never the same. Then they went out of business.

[Anonymous No.17514220]

>>17513598
those are some photogenic apples

[Anonymous No.17514233]

>>17513725
>>17513734
Cider is very big in Australia and NZ which are the only two commonwealth nations that are still largely British in their culture.

[Anonymous No.17514244]

>>17514150
Sounds comfy, what town?

[Anonymous No.17514248]

>>17514244
sounds like something that would happen in stars hollow connecticut

[Anonymous No.17514259]

>>17513696
It's been decades since prohibition was lifted, surly someone has attempted to regrow an orchid by now.

[Anonymous No.17514267]

>>17514259
there are plenty of small craft cideries all over the us and canada, you just wont find any macro cideries on the scale of budweiser which is probably a good thing since the cider would be extremely shitty

[Anonymous No.17514268]

>>17514248
Makes sense, I was only in CT for a bit but I know its a nice state, too cold for my blood though.

[Anonymous No.17514271]

>>17514268
>connecticut
>too cold
yeah, places like this are really just for white people

[Anonymous No.17514275]

>>17514271
I'm white, just Texan.

[Anonymous No.17514282]

>>17514267
Angry Orchard.

[Anonymous No.17514299]

>>17514282
>60 acre orchard
>222 million in revenue
I will admit it is fast growing but it's not exactly what someone would call a "macro cidery", at least not on the same scale as the nation's macro breweries.

[Anonymous No.17514302]

>>17513626
>milner heritage
Based fellow Minnesotan. MH makes some great cider/wine blends, and I really wish their product was available further north. It's no Washington, but I still feel spoiled to live in a state that has a vibrant, expanding cider industry.

[Anonymous No.17514342]

>>17513677
In the US apple cider typically refers to unfiltered apple juice, we call the alcoholic drink "hard cider". Unfortunately the common conception of hard cider is that it's one of those sweet drinks for girls who don't like the taste of beer, just one of those parts of our culture that's fucking retarded and perpetuated by people who don't know what they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.17514360]

>>17514342
it is a girl drink, its gay as hell

[Anonymous No.17514366]

>>17514360
It has been drank by men far manlier than you for eons. Cider is one of the oldest alcoholic drinks there are

[Anonymous No.17514370]

>>17513766
>barely fizzy
It depends. 3.0 vols of CO2 isn't unheard of for cider. Still cider isn't unusual either. Why are you trying to larp as a cider connoisseur when it's this easy to expose your ignorance?

[Anonymous No.17514387]

>>17514366
Men far more girly than i maybe

[Anonymous No.17514395]

>>17514259
>It's been decades since prohibition was lifted, surly someone has attempted to regrow an orchid by now.
Even after prohibition ended there was strict legislation on the production of alcohol. It wasn't until Jimmy Carter's presidency that much of this legislation was lifted, which led to the eventual emergence of microbreweries. Cider has been having a regrowth in recent years, but it's been a slow regrowth and will probably never catch up to beers again.

[Anonymous No.17514396]

>>17513600
Angry Orchard sucks though

[Anonymous No.17514415]

>>17514244
Owensboro, Kentucky

[Anonymous No.17514433]

>>17514150
We started having yearly hard cider festivels where I'm from that attracted people from all over. It just started in 2017. The last one was in 2019. Then covid happened and i have yet to hear plans for a 4th festival. Fuck this gay Earth.

[Anonymous No.17514437]

If it's clear and yella', you've got juice there, fella.If it's tangy and brown, you're in cider town.

[Anonymous No.17514442]

>>17513696
>cider trees, which are useless for anything but cider
"cider trees" grow "apples" which are used to make "apple pie", the most "american" food after burger

[Anonymous No.17514546]

>>17514442
Cider is more complicated than you think it is. There are several varietals of cider apple that are awful in pies or pastries.

[Anonymous No.17514592]

>>17514442
except cider apples are nothing like cooking or eating apples you midwit retard. actually go to an orchard some time before talking bullshit

[Anonymous No.17514624]

>>17514437
Now of course the whole thing is reversed in Canada

[Anonymous No.17514629]

>>17513711
Henry Westons Vintage is the go to drink if you want to get fucked up fast.
Frosty Jacks counts too if you're homeless. t. West Country anon
https://youtu.be/80Dbl0O0r7k

[Anonymous No.17514637]

Would malted cider be any good? Looking to make my own some time, though I should probably ask /fap/

[Anonymous No.17514659]

>>17513734
It's popular in all of the UK, not just England. The Irish like it a lot as well.

[Anonymous No.17514666]

>>17514637
>malted cider
What does this mean to you?

[Anonymous No.17514681]

>>17514387
men far less insecure more like

[Anonymous No.17514712]

>>17514666
Cider with malt added? I'm not a beer guy but its supposed to add a caramel-like sweetness isn't it? Figured it would be good added to a dryer cider.

[Anonymous No.17514746]

>>17513598
It was popular until the German immigrants came in the late 1800's early 1900's.
CIder is quite classic in colonial times. Washington owned an apple orchard to make, you guessed it, cider.

Also Americans don't like cider because it's not sweet enough. This is evident when they first imported strongbow but everyone hated it so they had to bring out "golden apple" flavor which was much MUCH sweeter, and thus more palatable for Americans.

Because I can't find a cider dry enough for me (Woodchuck granny smith is close but I can never find it in my area) I just make my own. It's really simple actually.

[Anonymous No.17514753]

>>17514712
>>17514637
It's called "graf'. I've never had it but it's probably fine.

[Anonymous No.17514770]

>>17514746
Crispin is good without being overly sweet. Fortunately, Jew York is good at a few things and I have many local options open to me.

[Anonymous No.17514779]

>>17514746
>It's really simple actually
It's stupid easy (as long as you like dry cider). You just fill up a food safe bucket with apple juice with headspace, add yeast and let it ferment for a couple weeks. You don't even need to press your own apples or do anything fancy; I've gotten great results from store bought cider.

The best part is that it's way cheaper than brewery cider, around $6/gallon or less when the juice is on sale.

[Anonymous No.17514784]

>>17514746
Not sure how available it is outside of Utah but stinger dry cider is pretty nice

[Anonymous No.17514789]

>>17514770
>>17514746
Forgot to add 1911 original, Possmann and Austin are also fairly dry ciders. Original Sin is very dry, but it tastes like a cider that's trying to be a beer and fails to be either imo.

[Anonymous No.17514834]

>>17513724
wow you fermented something in a fermenter gj
I guess wine us the same as beer too

[Anonymous No.17514837]

>>17514779
I can ferment a gallon of cider to dry in like 4 days. Now I'm never out

[Anonymous No.17514854]

>>17514154
Strongbow is like the lowest of the low here.
It's the shit underage kids drink when they're 16.
I've never seen someone of legal age drink strongbow.

[Anonymous No.17514860]

Maybe its just because I'm from Wisconsin but I see cider everywhere

[Anonymous No.17514916]

>>17514592
you can use any kind of apples
it's like getting upset about what kind of potatos you can make vodka out of
have sex

[Anonymous No.17514927]

I've only had sweet cider before and I'm not that interested in sweet alcohol

[Anonymous No.17514930]

>>17514927
Most good cidres are dry.

[Anonymous No.17514936]

>>17514930
In my country it seems that dry ciders aren't very popular

[Anonymous No.17514951]

>>17513598
I can find cider everywhere where I live, even a few local ones. For a few years all I drank was cider, mainly Woodchuck & Strongbow.

[Anonymous No.17514969]

>>17513598
American cider is hot garbage and they don't have the orchard culture / cultivars to make the real thing. Your only option is specialty importers.
>>17513747
Carbonated & chilled cider is like bud light tier and they do that to hide how bad it tastes. Good cider is still and served at room temperature like red wine.

[Anonymous No.17514977]

>>17514969
Yeah cause we grow real apples not dogshit cider ones lol

[Anonymous No.17514985]

>>17513613
>We have really good beer
Budweiser is garbage and you know it. Stop lying.

[Anonymous No.17514995]

>>17514985
sometimes i forget eurgantuangs only have macrobreweries

[Anonymous No.17514997]

>>17514985
>implying Stella and Heineken are any better
shut up you dumb yuro

[Anonymous No.17515012]

>>17514977
You can get eating apples anywhere in the world.
>>17514985
Never trust people who chill their ale.
>>17514997
Mass produced lager tastes like shit no matter where it's from. That's not what anyone gives a fuck about.

[Anonymous No.17515022]

>>17513598
My favorite cider was locally brewed, but the brewery got shut down after the pub it was attached to changed ownership. Fucking sucks.

[Anonymous No.17515112]

>>17514916
>you can use any kind of apples
A ciders made with cider apples does not taste the same as if it was made with red delicious apples you clueless trog

[Anonymous No.17515118]

>>17514916
Way to double down on being an utter smeghead.

[Anonymous No.17515229]

>>17515012
>Mass produced lager tastes like shit no matter where it's from
Opinion discarded, your head has been stuck too far up your ass for you to see anything but your own autism. Sad.

[Anonymous No.17515232]

>>17513633
I think you mean tradfags ruined it

[Anonymous No.17515327]

>>17515232
>implying cidermaking is anti-tradition
It was women and moralfags, American christians are the most insufferable there are.
t. American

[Anonymous No.17515330]

>>17515232
No, the temperance movement was almost entirely driven by women. Emotional, unthinking, knee-jerking women.

[Anonymous No.17515366]

>>17515327
Tradfags are American Christians are moralfags

[Anonymous No.17515389]

>>17515366
Tradfags and christians are not mutually exclusive, one look at modern christian leaders will tell you that. Just look at the troon pastors and the ones who suck their HRT-shriveled cocks

[Anonymous No.17515410]

>>17515389
Ok electionigger

[Anonymous No.17515415]

>>17515410
I don't vote though

[Anonymous No.17515585]

>>17514074
Well done you had a few pints of thatchers gold. I lived in the West Country for 5 years and most varieties aren’t carbonated at all. But do please go on

[Anonymous No.17515594]

>>17514370
Not a connoisseur I’ve just had more varieties than fucking thatchers gold down the local pub. Bet you’ve never even been to the West Country.

[Anonymous No.17515595]

>>17515389
>The ones who suck their get shriveled cocks
GIWTWM

[Anonymous No.17515604]

>>17514969
Finally someone in this thread that knows what they’re talking about.

[Anonymous No.17515611]

got some cider going right now in my closet
might have to dump it since I don't see any activity. My yeast might be old. I still got a five gallon that I just need to clear up though

[Anonymous No.17515619]

>>17513598
I live half an hour from a great local cider mill. It kicks ass in the fall.

[Anonymous No.17515769]

could go for one right now

[Anonymous No.17515786]

>>17515769
William approves

[Anonymous No.17515793]

>>17515786
ooh than maybe not

[Anonymous No.17515811]

>>17515793
Maybe these cider enjoyers would be more to your liking.

[Anonymous No.17515816]

>>17514969
>American cider is hot garbage
I live in new york and beg to differ.
>Good cider is still
I have never had a cider that was intentionally flattened.

[Anonymous No.17515820]

Cider is too weak. Mix 3 parts cider with 1 part apple (or apple pie) liqueur, I like Mcgillicuddy's. The flavor is almost identical but it'll get you a much better buzz.

[Anonymous No.17515821]

>>17515811
Hey a black female/black male couple
you don't see that very often in advertising

[Anonymous No.17515909]

>>17515820
If you find cider too weak I’d suggest trying to find some pic related. Henry Weston’s always does the job for me at 8.2%.

One thing I’ve noticed as well is that cider seems to produce a much more elated type of drunkness. Beer makes me angry drunk sometimes but cider always has me feeling happy.

[Anonymous No.17515920]

>>17515821
Must be an old stock photo. Although for a very long time you NEVER saw a black male and white female couple in tv, movies or advertising. Try and find it in anything before 2010. They would never let Will Smith have a white girl, she always had to be at least a bit chocolatey. So the stuff we’re seeing at the moment is probably a bit of an over correction but I don’t really mind.

[Anonymous No.17515924]

>>17513598
one time for two weeks I ate nothing but doritos and drank nothing but cider and I got diarrhea and shit my pants in my car

[Anonymous No.17516002]

>>17513687
>>17513673
just fuck already and get it over with

[Anonymous No.17516006]

>>17513598
tastes like rotten vinegar. Drink something good.

[Anonymous No.17516022]

>>17515920
I do, it's making black men into tokens. Malcolm X foresaw it happening. These companies don't give a shit about black representation, they just want to appeal to the black and "white guilt" demographics.

[Anonymous No.17516023]

>>17513598
Because cider is seen as a weak man's drink
>He can't handle Beer lmao!!
>look at anon ordering apple juice!
I don't mind it, but if you order it with a group they'll think you're not a strong drinker and a bit of a sissy

[Anonymous No.17516218]

>>17516023
Being a man is not giving a fuck what others think and doing what you like. I order cider when out with others all the time

[Anonymous No.17516234]

>>17514396
Do you not have local ciders? Hell even 10 years ago Crispin was everywhere

[Anonymous No.17516236]

>>17513598

Depends on where you get it. A lot of local breweries out on the coast of the Pacific Northwest have some delicious locally brewed ciders. They're so fresh and tart. Probably the only part of the country I would bother getting those. All your chained brands like Woodchuck, Angry Orchard suck. If you like that stuff, you just haven't developed your palette for good beer yet.

[Anonymous No.17516246]

>>17514302
Have you tried the milk and honey stuff? Their regular ciders are good, but they make awesome liqueurs? I guess. Idk one of them is an apple brandy blend and the other is basically mead. Both easily worth the price

[Anonymous No.17516417]

>>17513677
>>17514342
I've heard it described like a venn diagram, for Euros "cider" is always alcoholic and "juice" is non alcoholic.

For Americans, "juice" is always non alcoholic, "apple wine" is always alcoholic, and "cider" is either alcoholic or non alcoholic. Non alcoholic cider isn't any different than juice by definition, though there may be colloquial associations like "cider" being less filtered or less sweetened than "juice." "Cider" can also be just a fancy term that small farms use to market their juice to rich hippies.

Basically, when I think of apple juice I picture the shelf stable sugar water that kids like. When I picture cider, I think of alcoholic or maybe refrigerated high quality non-alcholic product.

t. work for a cidery

[Anonymous No.17516431]

>>17515816
Still cider can be very good. Carbonation softens the flavors and makes it more refreshing, but leaving it uncarbonated gives a more bold flavor and texture, the tannins in the apple skin really come out. It's not for everyone, if you hate chardonnay you probably won't like still cider.

[Anonymous No.17516478]

>>17516246
Their alchemy blend is some damn good ice cider. I've had their flora, and fauna, one of which kinda sucked, but the other was damn good. Also tried their chaga chai, which was fine, I guess? Seemed like they were trying to do too much, but ended up falling flat. My go-tos lately have been Minneapolis cider company, Wild State, and Duluth Cider. I'm still patiently waiting for No. 12 to find a distributor that ships north, but that day may never come.

[Anonymous No.17516724]

>>17514360
you drink piss faggot

[Anonymous No.17516738]

>>17515012
>Mass produced lager tastes like shit no matter where it's from. That's not what anyone gives a fuck about.
This. Nobody says, "my country has good beer" and is talking about fucking Bud.

[Anonymous No.17516784]

It's kind of hilarious that bong beer is so mediocre that they consider cider a viable alternative. I don't hate cider, and have had many good ones, but it's usually just something ordered by teenagers and women.

[Anonymous No.17517007]

>>17516784
I’ll never fail to be shocked at not only how uncultured Americans are, but their intense pride in being so

[Anonymous No.17517526]

>>17515924
kek

[Anonymous No.17517532]

>>17516234
The funny thing is that there are PLENTY of locals around me, but for some reason the only cider I've ever seen in a resturant is Angry Orchard except for like 2. It's infuriating. Crispin is good though.

[Anonymous No.17517535]

>>17516236
Woodchuck literally tastes like apples you picky eater autist.

[Anonymous No.17517778]

Cider is pretty regional and seasonal here, I’m in the northeast surrounded by orchards and we have a cidery down the road from me with apple festivals every year. We only really fuck with it during the fall and winter, cider and Jameson is a really popular drink

[Anonymous No.17517795]

>>17517007
This nigga drinking apple juice

[Anonymous No.17518957]

>>17513613
Sorry. Just gotta say. Generic America beer is shit compared to European beer.

[Anonymous No.17518965]

>>17513598
I used to like it until a friend helped me find good tasting beer. Now it's too sweet for my taste.

[Anonymous No.17518966]

>>17518957
Read the thread. Nobody is talking about fucking macro lagers.

[Anonymous No.17519027]

>>17518965
Saying this does not make you an adult.

[Anonymous No.17519075]

>>17514985
>all american beer is budweiser
just shut the fuck up already you cultureless slave

[Anonymous No.17519611]

>>17519027
>Saying this does not make you an adult.
unironically, what is this supposed to mean?

[Anonymous No.17519640]

>>17513598
We're not pussies.

[Anonymous No.17519656]

>>17513598
Not in my area. But I live near some of the largest Apple orchards in the world.

[Anonymous No.17519708]

American men worry they'll be seen as unmasculine cuz nothing screams unfettered masculinity than worrying what other men think of your masculinity.

tl:dr they're insecure

[Anonymous No.17519747]

>>17514008
Former Aussie alchy
Cider here isn't taxed the same as other drinks, so we have quite a few 8% ciders that's are half the price of any other drink. I find it very enjoyable as the extra sugar helps it go down easier

[Anonymous No.17519761]

>>17514342
>Unfortunately the common conception of hard cider is that it's one of those sweet drinks for girls who don't like the taste of beer
It's sweet but it has twice the alcohol, I'll never understand the connection between manliness and beer.

[Anonymous No.17519792]

>>17515920
>Although for a very long time you NEVER saw a black male and white female couple in tv, movies or advertising. Try and find it in anything before 2010. They would never let Will Smith have a white girl, she always had to be at least a bit chocolatey.
Good. Racemixing is disgusting.

>but I don’t really mind.
Well of course you don't, mongrel.

[Anonymous No.17519812]

>>17515821
Lmao so true

[Anonymous No.17520499]

>>17515594
>I’ve just had more varieties than fucking thatchers gold down the local pub
doubtful because you think the only style of cider that exists is still or low carbonation.

[Anonymous No.17522342]

>>17515920
What are you on about, Men in Black came out in 1997.

[Anonymous No.17522444]

>>17522342
L isn't his girlfriend in the movie

[Anonymous No.17522449]

>>17513656
>cider and beer are comparable to IPA and lager
you're a special kind of retard arent you, anon?

[Anonymous No.17522468]

>>17514779
>>17514837
What's the ABV?

[Anonymous No.17522472]

>>17513696
The upper peninsula of Michigan and northern Minnesota is of Finnish heritage, not scandinavian.

[Anonymous No.17522562]

It WAS our defacto drink but the prohibition women killed most of the apple trees and by the time it was lifted people were already brewing and distributing beer

[Anonymous No.17522569]

>>17522444
Undercover Brother then, 2002.

[Anonymous No.17522882]

>>17514837
It's not high ABV then if you're fermenting it in 4 days. Probably somewhere in the 1.5-2% ABV range. It takes at least 10-14 days to get something 6-8%

[Anonymous No.17523059]

one time I left a jug of non-alcoholic cider in my fridge and forgot about it for months. it was supposed to have been pasteurized but by the time I found it again it had swollen up like a football. it turned bubbly and tasted like alcohol. I tried doing it again but was never able to replicate it. I guess they fucked up and let some yeast into that one jug before they sealed it.

[Anonymous No.17524377]

>>17522882
dunno what you're using but according to the sugar wash calculator https://homedistiller.org/wiki/htm/calcs/calcs_rad14701.htm here when I put in .448kg of total sugars as calculated from the juice label per 1 gallon of liquid, I come up with 7% once it's dry.
But I also don't have a hydrometer and I could be retarded, so there's that. But other sites I've looked up for calculating abv of cider say to use a sugar wash calculator, so there's that too.

Also looking into this I came across this site that answers a few questions (https://www.montalvospirits.com/how-long-to-brew-hard-cider-recipe/))
>The typical cider will press at around 10 Brix (SG 1.044) which can produce a dry cider of 5.5% ABV. Some cider makers will add some sugar to bring the gravity up to 1.050-1.055 before fermentation. This is called chaptalization and it helps increase the alcohol level and makes the cider more stable for storage.

So it kind of checks out that fermenting apple cider without adding sugar would keep it in the 5% range, and as stated early on in the article it can take as little as 4 days for fermentation, which I usually take as when the airlock stops bubbling and the cider gets clear.

[Anonymous No.17524489]

>>17513598
Based cider bro, been really enjoying some Aspall lately.

[Anonymous No.17524649]

There's a cider brewery up north that makes phenomenal cider and sparkling juice. I go up there once a year and buy a years supply.
The cherry + apple is my favorite

[Anonymous No.17524659]

>>17513598
Why are peanuts more popular than sunflower seeds

[Anonymous No.17524670]

>>17522569
NTA but that's a comedy film, and the interracial relationship is the butt of the joke there, not something normal.

[Anonymous No.17525049]

>>17524670
Fuck, I guess. My memory's failing me apparently, I could have sworn there was a ton of that shit, but everything I look up to double check doesn't quite fit.

[Anonymous No.17525387]

>>17522468
Most commercial apple juices ferment out to anywhere from 5.5%-6.5% ABV, without adding additional sugar.

[Anonymous No.17525547]

>>17514154
Strongbow is trash

We have far worse ciders here in Ireland (and also very nice ones) so Strongbow can seem meh-tier as a cheap cider by comparison

[Anonymous No.17525560]

Step aside

[Anonymous No.17525561]

>>17515611
>yeast might be old

There's yeast on the apple skins bitchass

[Anonymous No.17526715]

>>17513711
Cider is great but it makes you shit your guts out after 3 cans. The strategy is to start with 3 cans of cider and then switch to something else when you're slightly soused.

[Anonymous No.17526828]

>>17513696
Cider is made all around Europe, the French make some of the best. The taste for it died in most places outside of the northeast and the northwest to a lesser extent. Lots of cider producers in NY where my grandparents live.

[Anonymous No.17526855]

>>17513696
Since when were there so many Scandis in South Louisiana?

[Anonymous No.17527280]

>>17513598
I'm not American, but I fucking despise cider. The smell is what kills it for me. It literally smells like shit. Just like white pepper, it feels like sniffing manure. Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.17527285]

>>17513598
old people love cider
idk why it's not popular with zoomies and middle ages

[Anonymous No.17527292]

>>17513633
>Then Prohibition happened, and a bunch of moralfags cut down the vast majority of apple orchards, resulting in the loss of dozens of carefully cultivated varieties of apples that were lost forever
Sounds like what the Muslims tried to do to Sherry wine in Spain, except the military got pissed because they loved the raisins the grapevines in Andalusia made so the Caliph only destroyed 2/3rds of the planted vines.

So yeah, puritan faggots are not much better then filthy Muslims when it comes to alcohol.

[Anonymous No.17527293]

>>17523059
>Apple juice
>Brewing yeast
>Somewhere not too hot or cold
>Time
Poor man's cider

[Anonymous No.17527611]

>>17516417
hit the nail on the head faggot

[Anonymous No.17527731]

>>17514753
I fermented my own batch it was pretty good then I tried a commercial (regional microbrewery) version also pretty good. I’m a graf advocate

[Anonymous No.17527762]

>>17517795
this nigga cant enjoy a glass of fucking apple juice without worrying about people finding the thong up his bussy

[Anonymous No.17528023]

>>17527285
Millennials and Zoomers will make fun of you for drinking cider instead of beer for some reason. That's why a lot of them don't drink it

[Anonymous No.17528083]

>>17519640
What are you a fuckin retard? Hows that marketing gimmick workin for you there, cowboy? You drink what you enjoy the taste of. Or you're a pussy who gives a fuck about such an asnine subject as to your own thoughts and truths.

[Anonymous No.17528087]

>>17515821
If thats the tv in the background it looks to come from the early to mid two thousands.

[Anonymous No.17528292]

>>17513696
Cider is massive in Ireland and made all over the country

[Anonymous No.17528293]

>>17527285
I don't like beer, I've been a cider drinker since I was like 17 and I'm almost 34

[Anonymous No.17528336]

>>17525561
nobody fucking makes wild yeast cider anymore retard

[Anonymous No.17528356]

>>17514044
Please send help. I’m the only anglo in a sea of germs. They have been trying to indoctrinate me since a young age with their pretzel buns and their bratwurst. I won’t have it. I fear my tea and crumpet rations can only last so long, and the chippy has long since closed down.
I don’t know how long I can last.

[Anonymous No.17528499]

>>17513598
Cider as in the alcohol? Or the Mutt cider as unpurified apple juice?
Yes I watched /ourguy/'s video on the subject

[Anonymous No.17528543]

>>17528336
I do and it tastes better than any of the 30 something ciders I've sampled.

[Anonymous No.17528564]

>>17528499
>/ourguy/'s
Go away Adam.

[Anonymous No.17528601]

>>17513711
Idk if it's the whole region, but my family in southern france by the pyrenees drinks cider way more than anything else. My dad still seethes regularly about American cider being shit

[Anonymous No.17529229]

>>17528499
if he gets a little more toned and loses the glasses this dude might just actually legitimately be ourguy but we'd need a cosigner on it and i'm pretty sure /fit/ would approve

[Anonymous No.17529233]

>>17528601
>My dad still seethes regularly about America
No way you don't say

[Anonymous No.17529610]

>>17514360
What makes juice of a certain fruit "girlier" than another? Sounds like made up rules from an insecure dude

[Anonymous No.17529813]

>>17513598
You need bitter and bittersweet apples to make cider, and these aren't usually cultivated in the US - certainly not to the extent that indigenous cultivars are grown in the UK and Europe. That said, I've been able to find cider just about anywhere I've been.

[Anonymous No.17529840]

>>17513598
Its actually not. Angry Orchard sells well here

[Anonymous No.17529941]

>>17513736
This post sure contains a good bit of seething for someone accusing someone else of it

[Anonymous No.17529969]

>>17513598
>why is cider so unpopular in the USA?

Historically after prohibition it was considered a hick thing to drink.

During prohibition it had become popular for every farm to have an "apple orchard" that was used for making hard apple cider. Before prohibition it had fallen out of style as Ales and Later lagers became more popular with the increasing number of german and irish immigrants. At the 1776 revolution, Cider was the most popular drink in the USA.

[Anonymous No.17529982]

>>17514244
lol my town has a spinach festival slightly less comfy than Apple days.

[Anonymous No.17529992]

>>17514044
Not really the lower rust belt has a lot of us Anglos

[Anonymous No.17529994]

>>17513598
What? The homies and I dedicate the whole season of fall to cider and old fashioned donuts

[Anonymous No.17530003]

>>17514969
Come to Ohio. We're fucking known for apples because of Johnny Appleseed

[Anonymous No.17530011]

>>17515327
Well I'm kind of one and I still drink. Lutherans are exactly anti-alcohol

[Anonymous No.17530015]

>>17530011
*aren't

[Anonymous No.17530034]

>>17513598

[Anonymous No.17530137]

>>17528292
due to the brits and their influence

[Anonymous No.17530227]

>>17528023
Most "Cider" zoomers are exposed to is essentially WKD but with more alcohol.

[Anonymous No.17530258]

>>17513613
the fact that you said that makes me think it's all as shit as picrel