/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.17488564]

So, I just bought a new place and we'll be installing a new kitchen. Thoughts on this setup?

[Anonymous No.17488566]

[Anonymous No.17488590]

Soulless.

[Anonymous No.17488592]

>>17488564
sink too far away from range.

[Anonymous No.17488600]

this is just mass-produced condo default kitchen man. with shit mdf cupboards and everything.
3/10.

[Anonymous No.17488601]

>>17488564
Don't need a kitchen for shower apples

[Anonymous No.17488604]

>>17488590
It'll look nice with appliances, some books, some pottery, and some big pans / pots on the shelf above. The whole idea is making something not for show, but for use.

>>17488592
I thought about it... I figured I'd like to have about a meter of working space near the range. How much prep space do you usually use?

>>17488600
That is true... however, even 20-25K euro kitchens are all MDF. This is a kitchen made to be used, not to appear on a catalog.

[Anonymous No.17488606]

>>17488564
Youre not going to have enough counter space for your toaster, ninja, rice cooker, blender and ez bake oven.

[Anonymous No.17488614]

>>17488604
>How much prep space do you usually use?
two square feet.

[Anonymous No.17488628]

I'm not going to comment on the cardboard box size of the kitchen itself, but why shelves instead of proper cabinets? And the other guy is right, move the stove a square over or something.

[Anonymous No.17488643]

>>17488564
> we
You and your boyfriend, fag?

[Anonymous No.17488644]

>>17488564
>minimalism/modernism

[Anonymous No.17488646]

>>17488564
I think that one guy on /ck/ who was like
"fuck getting cabinets and counters, just get solid welded stainless steel tables and shelves like they have in restaurants" had the right idea

Cheaper, easier to clean, less installation, looks like you have a professional kitchen.
That's what I plan on doing.

[Anonymous No.17488648]

>>17488564
Range is too far from the sink.

[Anonymous No.17488655]

>>17488643
No, me and my girlfriend(male) :)

[Anonymous No.17488660]

>>17488564
>So, I just bought a new place and we'll be installing a new kitchen. Thoughts on this setup?
Go to a kitchen design store. That's utterly stupid. A wall view while doing dishes. Back to guests. No walk-in pantry. No wall space for appliances you might wish to leave out. No kick space. No consideration for the triangle path. WTF oven and fridge together like that. A low to the ground microwave, insanity, should be counter height or higher. And you should have counterspace near it, not a cabinet wall. SO STUPID.
I think a lack of no upper cabinets means you don't give a shit about washing items the moment you need to use them. Why would all your china be put away under countertop levels out of the dishwasher.
Do you have room for a food disposal switch even near your sink while running your water.

[Anonymous No.17488670]

>>17488564
Why would you put your oven over there? Anyways, here are my suggestions:
>put the oven on the main section, and turn that area to the left of the fridge into a big pantry.
>Pull out drawer with trashcan/recycling can
>spice drawer
>put the sink closer to the range

[Anonymous No.17488671]

>>17488644
Lack of space-ism, really. Might go for upper cabinets, but I'm planning to use that space for the big pans / pots and some appliances that don't get used everyday, such as the pressure cooker.

>>17488646
This is part of an open-plan space. If it was up to me, I'd go full stainless steel... but gotta consider the rest of the space.

>>17488660
Will get it reviewed by a kitchen shop. You have some good pointers, but a walk in pantry is a privilege. In this country, there is not that much space so people keep their pantries small, and do much more frequent grocery shopping. (2-4x weekly).

I thought about upper cabinets too, but there's not much space up there. Just a plank would allow me more flexibility to put the 10-20 liter pots.

[Anonymous No.17488673]

>>17488566
I wouldn't put the oven right next to the fridge.
There's multiple reasons but the one that really stands out is the refrigerator isn't going to be very efficient if the oven is on.

[Anonymous No.17488678]

>>17488606
don't forget the coffee pod machine and the bread machine!

[Anonymous No.17488681]

>>17488673
Thanks for the tips anon. These are fairly well insulated, but the tall cabinet by the wall is actually meant to be a pantry. I guess I could switch it up for the ovens so that ovens are in the corner, then the pantry, then the fridge.

>>17488678
Kek anon, I am not a faggot. I grind my coffee with a hario skerton and use a v60 to brew. Household is too small at this point to frequently make bread.

>>17488643
Wife.

>>17488648
What do you think a proper distance should be?

[Anonymous No.17488735]

>>17488566
Microwave that high is really annoying unless you're a bit above average male height, even then it's not optimal. Your wife probably wouldn't feel comfortable pulling out a full bowl of scalding hot soup from head height. I know because my parents have the exact same setup.

I can't imagine not having storage over the counter as well as under. Even if you don't get 10 appliances it's much more comfortable to work in half full or less shelf spaces.

Sink might as well be one counter closer to the stovetop for when you need to transfer hot stuff to the sink without extra walking with potentially wobbly stuff in a pan or whatever. You're still getting the same workspace overall.

STRONGLY consider getting a induction system that allows you to jump all the steps individually and not just a "+" and "-" button. I just find it annoying to have to press the same touch button 8 times to go from 9 to 1 with a small pause between each step it triggers. Compared to a knob that does it in literally less than second. Maybe even multi touch so it isn't a bitch when you might be two people at it or simply need to adjust two or more zones quickly between each other. Again, the confirmation beep and delay or whatever triggers me whenever I want it done fast. Pressing two things at once or with minimal delay can make it not do either of it.

Make sure all the workspace is usable and not filled with potted plants, decorations and crap. Secure enough compartments to stove away appliances not used daily.

[Anonymous No.17488763]

>>17488564
Good choice on the induction.

[Anonymous No.17488773]

>>17488735
> Microwave that high
Thanks anon, definitely something to consider. Wife is on the shorter side and we have the same setup in our current place, and she hasn't really complained about it... so I thought it'd be OK to do it the same way. I guess it does not hurt to be considerate.


> I can't imagine not having storage over the counter as well as under.
I was originally planning on a plank running above the window throughout the length of it... mostly for the big pots. Small ones I could probably hang.


> Sink might as well be one counter closer to the stovetop
This definitely seems like a constant in the feedback and something to keep in mind. I will be doing this.
> STRONGLY consider getting a induction system that allows you to jump all the steps individually and not just a "+" and "-" button.

Definitely and absolutely. I currently have one that does that, and I wouldn't have it any other way.


> Make sure all the workspace is usable and not filled with potted plants, decorations and crap.
100% this. There is no single ornamental element in my kitchen. Countertop space is little and precious, and it shall be protected. The one thing I am having issues with is the appliance storage... in my current design, they are supposed to go on the plank above the window, as they would not fit in the kind of cabinet that fits that window.

>>17488763
Thanks anon. Other than the robotic sounds, they're pretty awesome as long as you have thick pans. Also... fuck russian gas.


Pic is part of my current kitchen.

[Anonymous No.17488794]

>white counter

YIKES

[Anonymous No.17488801]

>>17488564
>Thoughts on this setup?

Don’t locate the sink centrally in the counter top, move it off to the side.

You’re going to be standing in front of the sink for hours on end so why place it front & center? Open counter top space for food prep, piling up grocery bags, etc. is far more important, so get that sink out of the way.

[Anonymous No.17488802]

>>17488773
Is there are dishwasher here and will there be one in the new space? If not:
>No dish rack
Perhaps you're a man of proper routine and simple wipe everything directly after it gets washed? I'm a lazy bastard and leave everything that can take moisture to dry overnight in a dish rack.

[Anonymous No.17488807]

>>17488801
> You're NOT going to be standing

Fixed that.

[Anonymous No.17488809]

>>17488801

[Anonymous No.17488949]

>>17488671
>Lack of space-ism, really. Might go for upper cabinets, but I'm planning to use that space for the big pans / pots and some appliances that don't get used everyday, such as the pressure cooker.

Enjoy all the dust collecting on top of them.

And, no, you're not going to dust them once a week. We all know you won't.

[Anonymous No.17489059]

>>17488949
You know what? You're completely right. I can be a bit of a slob with the dusting. I'm planning on having an air filter in the area to reduce odors in the rest of the floor, but there'll be dust that I won't clean as often as I should.


>>17488801
>>17488670
>>17488660
>>17488628

Anyway... this is a new layout considering the feedback from y'all. Not sure how to resolve the ovens... perhaps having a single combi oven under the hob?.

[Anonymous No.17489063]

>>17489059
One moar.

[Anonymous No.17489069]

>>17489059
Whichever design you go with, just make sure the don't tile in those annoying blue pointy things, they look ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.17489101]

>>17488660
You need a view when cleaning dishes? Look at the dishes, dumbass.
Who cares if your back is to the guests? They’re not going to stab you Or whatever you fucking autist. You don’t get to comment if you’re not a normal person.

[Anonymous No.17489131]

>>17488564
>>17488566
I think the main consideration for small kitchens like these is how easily two or three people can move around in them. Mainly thinking about scenarios like if one person is making breakfast while another comes in to make a coffee, or at night when one person is cooking while another is making a salad.
It's probably good how the sink is in the most accessible location, and the fridge is fairly accessible because it's the first thing on the right; a second person won't be getting in the others' way accessing these. It looks like there's just enough food prep area to the left of the sink as well so that one person can do something there and leave the rest of the kitchen free. Only issue will be if someone wants to access the pantry (which I assume is the bit left of the oven) while someone is cooking on the hot plates, but I assume that won't happen too often.

[Anonymous No.17489172]

>>17489131
someone's been playing Overcooked

[Anonymous No.17489175]

>>17489063
Is this IKEA's kitchen planner software or something?

[Anonymous No.17489181]

>>17488592
this, range is awkwardly placed too far right

[Anonymous No.17489192]

>>17489181
Depends, does OP post on /pol/ or not?

[Anonymous No.17489193]

>>17488564
>>17488566
Did you just open generic 3d home models and stick them in place?
It looks terrible and despite your mile long counter you've somehow also made it cramped

[Anonymous No.17489205]

>>17489059
Is the fridge location a hard requirement? It's a huge appliance that requires a lot of floorspace to even use, you don't want opening it to block half the kitchen. It should be in as open as a spot as possible. Swap the oven and fridge.

[Anonymous No.17489225]

>>17489172
Don't know what that is, that's just my experience with a small kitchen. Mine is sort of set out like pic related, except instead of a window on the far wall there's the coffee machine and a small pantry above it, meaning it gets congested in the morning if one person wants to make breakfast/ a coffee. And not a lot of room for a second person to cook alongside you.
However, it's a great kitchen for just one person

[Anonymous No.17489692]

>smallest sink you could find

why would you do this to yourself?

[Anonymous No.17489702]

>>17488564
>>17488566
Are you a character in the sims? The fuck are you going to do with a cgi kitchen retard.

[Anonymous No.17489787]

>>17489059
This looks so much easier to work with.

[Anonymous No.17489805]

>>17489702
kek

[Anonymous No.17490224]

>>17488564
>No double sink, dishwasher or upper cabinetry with bulkheads to the ceiling.
Being this fucking poor.

[Anonymous No.17490963]

>>17488564
Imo I think the sink should be closer to the stove

[Anonymous No.17490984]

>>17489069

[Anonymous No.17491122]

>>17489059
Rotate the Fridge 90° to the left, the way it is currently set up just going to the fridge blocks half the kitchen and if someone has to work there (lets say washing the dishes) it's hella annoying
Could be circumvented by having it open to the left wall and not towards the sink

[Anonymous No.17491171]

>>17488564
If your place is small I would get as many overhead cupboards as possible. You can store other crap in there other than kitchen stuff. Saves another closet somewhere else.

Would have more space on the right for all the clutter that's always on the counter, toaster, water boiler, utensil basket, other various items. Keeps the view clean when you view it from the room side.
Fridge in the corner is nice, keeps the noise away. I fucking hate fridge noise. And modern ones turn on forever as it's more economical.

Think of where to keep dish cloths, where to dry your hands, towels.

Would switch the dishwasher with the stovetop. Move to sink one tile to the right also. Fuck dishwasher noise too.

[Anonymous No.17491183]

>>17488564
Be sure to include a drying cupboard. Best invention ever, thanks Finland.

[Anonymous No.17491254]

>>17491183
The bottom angled so it drips down in the sink or does it pool inside?

[Anonymous No.17491256]

>>17491254
This is some concept photo but it's just grills all the way so it drips into the sink. You store your big pans and stuff in there that don't go into the dishwasher and you just leave them there until you use them again. Super handy.

[Anonymous No.17491262]

>>17491256
But what about when you close the cupboard? It just leaks out through the frame? That wouldn't look very good.

[Anonymous No.17491269]

>>17491262
it drips into the sink, it looks just like a normal cupboard only the bottom is open

[Anonymous No.17491275]

>>17491269
Sounds nifty for sure but dunno how I feel about having stuff slowly drip into the sink from above.

[Anonymous No.17491277]

>>17488809
Kek

[Anonymous No.17491281]

>>17491275
It stops after a few minutes even with the wettest of dishes

[Anonymous No.17492982]

>>17489059

What's the thing on the wall over on the left side, a replicator?

[Anonymous No.17493113]

>>17489059
Looks cool anon, only thing I'd really care for is to move the fridge to the left of the sink but if that's actually a window and you can't change it I think it looks fine

[Anonymous No.17493168]

>>17488564
>Be OP with this kitchen
>Cooking a steak
>Need pepper, cross the kitchen to reach the shelves to get it
>Return, grind pepper, add to steak
>Walk across entire kitchen again, return pepper grinder
>Walk across entire kitchen again, return to stove
>Steak is now well done
Put shelves or cupboards across the entire thing, this is how every good home kitchen has been designed for the last 200 years for a reason. This looks like a nightmare for storage. Where are the knives going to go, and the pots and pans?
>>17488566
Wrap the counter around that corner instead, put the sink in it, then put the stove about 38" out and the fridge another 26" after that.

[Anonymous No.17493212]

>>17488673
>I wouldn't put the oven right next to the fridge.
Got an oven on top of a fridge, works fine.

[Anonymous No.17493219]

>>17493212
Post pics

[Anonymous No.17494059]

>>17488606
ex bakes go in the bedroom or living room dude.

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FIXED