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17458500 No.17458500 [Reply] [Original]

Why the fuck do people say that adding things to your food is "an insult to the chef"? Fuck right off - if I want to add salt, pepper, tobasco, lemon, etc literally fucking anything to my food, it's because I enjoy it that way. If I paid for the food, the chefs opinion no longer matters.

>> No.17458508

i put ice cubes in my ramen

>> No.17458523

>>17458508

I think OP now knows the answer to the question.

>> No.17458526

>>17458500
>Why the fuck do people say that adding things to your food is "an insult to the chef"?

It's kind of like if you went to a museum and glued googly eyes to all of the portraits.

>> No.17458527

child

>> No.17458532

>>17458500
>If I paid for the food, the chefs opinion no longer matters.
then you can take your dog food and eat it outside with the dogs
https://youtu.be/ILmBcDltJQI

>> No.17458533

>>17458526
That's gotta be the worst metaphor I've ever heard. You aren't buying the portraits at a museum, so you don't own them.

>> No.17458535

>>17458500
>Why the fuck do people say that adding things to your food is "an insult to the chef"?
Because you're implicitly saying the chef doesn't know how to cook or that their skills are bellow you.

It's the same when you're invited to dine on someone's house; never ask for condiments if they're not provided to you or offered on the table.

If the food isn't good enough for you, go home and cook it yourself.

>> No.17458536

It's like playing Minecraft with mods

>> No.17458541

>>17458500
You are correct. I love oysters and I'm tired of other oyster enthusiasts looking down on those who eat them with cocktail sauce. I don't do it, but if that's what someone likes good for them. And fuck yeah I put ketchup on a hotdog.

>> No.17458547

>>17458535
>the chef doesn't know how to cook or that their skills are bellow you
How so? People have different preferences. If you're served fries with ketchup but you prefer them with cream gravy or mayo, why not use that instead? The chef prepares the food, but he doesn't know the customers taste buds. His food just forms the foundation - customers can still freely customize the result to their individual liking.

>> No.17458556

>>17458500
Normally people get upset if you don’t try it first before seasoning it.

>> No.17458590

>>17458500
i agree with you but are you like... going to places and doing disgraceful things to food just to see trannies seethe?

like going to a froyo place and topping it with sardines or something?

>> No.17458602

>>17458547
>The chef prepares the food, but he doesn't know the customers taste buds
That's why he gives the customer a menu to choose which food, based on their own knowledge of their tastebuds, they'd enjoy

>> No.17458607

>>17458602
By that logic, if the restaurant has salt/pepper/ketchup/mustard at the table, it's there for you to add to the food however you please

>> No.17458612

>>17458607
Of course, "to taste". If you pull A1 sauce out of your jacket pocket then you've got the problem

>> No.17458615

I've learned that it's a legitimate challenge to overcome when cooking for others. When you're cooking a dish you're trying to do specific things with the textures and flavors, and then some jackass comes and douses everything in soy sauce or sriracha or something. It's not an "insult" to the chef, that's arrogant as fuck, but it's disappointing that they don't want to try the food the way you intended for it to be.

>> No.17458623

>>17458607
They're obviously referring to cases where care was taken in the preparation more than your standard diner food. If you were invited to a friend's house who was known to be a fantastic cook, it's polite to try their food as is. This is more common with older, more skilled friends.

>> No.17458647

>>17458623
No, he isn't - he literally said "the customer". Being invited to a friends house and eating the food they cook for you is COMPLETELY different from going to a restaurant and paying money for the food.

>> No.17458658

>>17458615
>it's arrogant as fuck to make food taste the way you enjoy it
I understand the notion of "if you go to a friends house and they cook for you, it's rude to modify the taste of the food when you haven't even tried it", but what if you try it and think "Man, I'd sure love this with some sriracha". Is it then rude to add it? If not, then why is it "an insult to the chef" if someone goes to a steakhouse, tries a steak and goes "Man, I'd sure love this with some ketchup"? In both cases, it's just someone wanting to enjoy the food the way that tastes best to them

>> No.17458668

>>17458647
I assumed you'd be clever enough to infer that finer quality dining would be the same. If you're eating at a place where you'd know the chefs' name then you don't adulter the food as it is meant to be an experience, not just a feeding.

>> No.17458673

>>17458533
You're still fucking with authorial intent.

>> No.17458689

>>17458673
what if the authorial intent sucks ass? don't protect people who want to be a bitchy snob

>> No.17458693

>>17458668
The problem is that you've now added "familiarity" as a factor. Being invited to a friends house or going to a place where you know the chefs name are details that have nothing to do with the original question, and in fact, change the angle entirely. Instead of it being food from an unknown "chef", now you've made it about not offending your friends.

>> No.17458716

>>17458500
If you paid for the food, you can wipe your ass with it if that's what you want. The minute money leaves your hands, the food is now something you own - and you can do whatever you want with it. Anyone who bitches about "nooooo, b-but think of the CHEF" is an elitist faggot. Enjoy your food in whatever way makes it most enjoyable to you.

>> No.17458718

>>17458689
Then you go to a different restaurant or stay the fuck home.

>> No.17458722

>>17458693
OK let me simplify it for you. Any meal where it is meant to be an experience based around the skill of the chef, more than it is meant to fill your stomach, you should eat the food as is. Is that good enough for you to understand?

Sometimes your opinion that this could use more of this, less of that, is just that, your opinion. It's part of your experience. It says as much about your taste as it does about the food. If you find nothing flavorful without your favorite topping, that's a preference that may gate keep you from novel experiences. This is part of why some people dislike those that immediately season food without tasting.

>> No.17458728

>>17458500
I've been to restaurants that don't have salt or pepper on the tables. When I asked for it I got one s from the kitchen.

>> No.17458737

>>17458535
>never ask for condiments
I bring my own.

>> No.17458751

>>17458722
Yes, if you're literally going to a place where a famous cook serves food, obviously the intent is to experience it as-is. But what about the other 99% of restaurants/diners in the world where you're just there to eat the food?

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>> No.17458799

>>17458751
Are those counted in my "Any meal..." statement? Use that head.

>> No.17458814

>tobasco
Is this a regional spelling?

>> No.17458828

>>17458500
That never bothered me any.
If a customer wants to put something on their food, well they're the one that should enjoy eating it.
If I wanted a plate of food exactly the way I like it, I'd make a plate of food for myself.

>> No.17458830

>>17458526
One of the dumbest things I've read in a while

>> No.17458843

Who the fuck would be offended? If someone threw ketchup on the steak I made them and said it was a delicious steak well then I'm glad you liked it, dumbass

>> No.17459122

>>17458500
Americans really have no culture, it's just about money for them.

>> No.17459148

>>17458541
Where did this meme that ketchup doesn't go on a hot dog come from anyway? I've always been taught that ketchup and mustard goes on a dog, or go full on with ketch, must and relish.

>> No.17459642

>>17458500
For the Amerilards food is their religion, the chef is their diety, every meal is as they ordained it. Additions are tantamount to sacrilege.

>> No.17459658

>>17459148
Chicago.

>> No.17459724

I mean it kind of is
I'm cool if people want to add salt, pepper, msg, vinegar, oil or sugar but anything else is an insult to me and would be very offensive

>> No.17459749
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17459749

>>17458500
I hope to god it is an insult to the Chef. Fuck em

>> No.17459761

>>17458799
>"why is this considered an insult to the chef?"
>WELL IN THIS ONE TYPE OF INSTANCE THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO 99% OF RESTAURANTS, IT IS!!
thanks for your contribution, retard

>> No.17459786

>>17458751
okay well when I rape women I intend for them to experience pleasure so it'd be an insult to the chef if they went to the police.

this isn't exactly a hard concept.

>> No.17459796

>>17458526
Not many portraits at a museum. Try it at an art gallery for maximum effect.

>> No.17459812

>>17458722
This.
If you go to a place that serves "nice food" in dinner portions and the chef comes out screaming because you salted the steak or whatever then the chef is a faggot.

If you go to a tasting restaurant and drown it in ketchup you pulled out of your jacket then you are a faggot.

>> No.17460359

>>17458526
here, let me try
>when you order food at a restaurant you are not buying the meal, you are paying for a licence to have the chefs recipe prepared for you. if you alter the dish, you are violating the EULA for the dish

>> No.17460882

>>17458500
If it's fast food or low end dining then no one really cares, but I think a lot of people subconsciously treat dining out in the same way they would eating with family/friends, and they wouldn't want you to modify the food because you wouldn't do that at home.

Also a huge part of the experience is the topic of food, discussing and reviewing it, and deciding if you'd go back there or not. How are you supposed to take someones opinion on that matter seriously when they dunk half a bottle of ketchup on everything they eat.

>> No.17460901

>>17458500
If you add anything before tasting the food, you're a pleb and a baby. But if you add stuff after, you're just tailoring it to your taste. Simple as.

>> No.17460913

>>17458500
>Why the fuck do people say that adding things to your food is "an insult to the chef"?
Ive never heard or read anyone say that outside of contrarian 4chan shitposts whining about that

>> No.17460920

I would LITERALLY kick you out of my house if you modified my food in any way.

And if I had a restaurant, you would be banned from it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtJrrF4RNwE

>> No.17460964

>>17460920
you sound like a moron.

>> No.17461570

>>17458500
in my experience it's only considered an insult if you season the dish before even trying it, unless the chef says it needs salt/pepper/cheese etc.

>> No.17461695

>>17458533
Of course you have the legal right to alter your food, that's not the point. If someone buys a painting and destroys it he is still an uncultured faggot with more money than brains, even if he has the legal right.

>> No.17461729

>>17458673
I'm an anarchist. I don't recognize their authority.

>> No.17461737

Op is a retard n*gger who puts ketchup on steak and salt in soup

>> No.17461741

>>17458500
>If I paid for the food, the chefs opinion no longer matters.
preach brother

>> No.17461920

>>17460964
Kek

>> No.17462052

Yes, I add [more]soy sauce to every asian dish, then oyster, then some hot sauce. Yes I put ketchup, mustard AND mayo on my hot dogs. I always need s&p in my soup, cream if it's thick vegg soup. I dip maki rolls in soy and at least one more sauce. I dont give a fuck what some of you pc snowflakes think. I know my choices are ~top tier in everything I do, especially food. I will put salt on your molecular trash foam if it's not salty enough. Thanks for reading, you can carry on with your life now.

>> No.17462058

>>17461741
you're going to suck my dick until i shoot hot ropey cum loads down your throat, you homosexual.

>> No.17462072

>>17458500
>Why the fuck do people say that adding things to your food is "an insult to the chef"?

if the food isn't seasoned to your taste, there's nothing wrong with adding what you like. That said, if you add shit without even tasting the food first, then you're a literal fucking retard.

>> No.17462120

>>17459148
hot dogs are gross, but if i have to eat one it's gonna be 'chupped

>> No.17462133

>>17460901
>Simple as

as what? you didn't finish your sentence.

>> No.17462142

>>17462133
Shut up. This is decades old vernacular.

>> No.17462150

>>17462142
typing out incoherent fragments is vernacular? since when?

>> No.17462183

>>17462142
For yuropoors maybe. You don't matter faggot.

>> No.17463305

>>17458526
you don't get to eat the googly eyed portraits so what's the point?

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>>17458500
i think if you put salt and pepper on your food before your first bite you need to be taken into a dark room and get your head beaten in

>> No.17463406

>>17461695
Googly eyes are unique, googly eyes are quirky. If Picasso used googly eyes, you'd be licking his boots. Not to mention the consumer thought the chefs food wasn't good enough.

>> No.17463423

>>17463406
you should kill yourself.

>> No.17463448

>>17463406
>>17463423
both of you pls end your time here quickly and efficiently thanks in advance

>> No.17463472

>>17458500
When i make food for others i want them to enjoy. I dont stroke my dick to the idea of being an amazing chef and cry when someone salts something.

>> No.17463492

>>17463472
neither do i, but i do think they're a fucking moron if they don't even check to see whether it *needs* to be salted first

>> No.17463754

>>17459761
Holy shit you're thick. Your skull could deflect tank shells.

>> No.17463774

>>17458500
You should do what you want but what they mean is that you don't think the food is seasoned well enough by the chef since you're adding stuff.

>> No.17465196

>>17458500
Chefs are simply wagies with an attitude, what they think its irrelevant. Just tell then to shut up and do the fucking dish as you ordered, and there better be a smile on his face or else.

>> No.17466589

>>17462133
Simple as that, anon. Simple as that.
>>17462183
It's a common saying, don't larp as an American because you're clearly not as educated as most Americans.

>> No.17467158

>>17458526
kys

>> No.17467592
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17467592

>Spend time and effort making a meal
>Some basic bitch puts ketchup on it
I don't know any people like this but it would annoy me. If I did know someone like this I probably just cook whatever basic shit they eat rather than wasting my time and effort on something that won't be appreciated.

>> No.17467840

This is such a retarded bait take.
I purposely under salt/pepper my dishes because I know that everyone has their own preference for how much they want.
You can't remove salt and pepper once it's mixed in, so why risk overdoing it?
Let the people dictate how salty/peppery they want their food by doing it themselves.

>> No.17468473

>>17458526
That's funny though

>> No.17469017

>>17458526
I'm done with this thread because I know that it can only get even more retarded from here. Fuck you cunt.