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>> No.17458406

>>17458402
literally the healthiest option possible, retard

>> No.17458407

>>17458402
If you are on keto diet.

>> No.17458409

>>17458402
Tallow or butter is better IMO

>> No.17458414

>>17458402
eating dietary fat is retarded, check out the starch solution by john mcdougall.

>> No.17458626

Ketolard shill thread

>> No.17458638

>>17458406
How come?

>> No.17458651

>>17458638
No SNEED oils

>> No.17458653

>>17458409
do you have a reason for that or are you just parroting /ck/?

>> No.17458691

I make a duck like once a fortnight so that i have duck fat to cook with

>> No.17458700

>>17458402
Yeah, sure. why not?
Some things you need specific types of fat for.
Like shortbread cookies. You need to use beef fat for those or they don't taste right and have the correct texture.

>> No.17458912

>>17458402
Fuck.
I just realised I bought all that cream cheese for nothing.
I could have practiced quenelles with all the lard I have.
That's like four dollars down the drain right there.

>> No.17458917

>>17458402
Get some duck fat and thank me later.

>> No.17458949

>>17458402
pigs are monogastric so if you buy shit quality lard you are getting bad omega 3:6 ratios. ruminant fats are a safer bet in general

>> No.17458966

>>17458949
Look, my guy, I don't know anything about omegas, so you're basically speaking Greek to me (and I'm not Greek)

I'm referring to something like those blocks of lard you find close to the butter or margarines in supermarkets. Are those better for you than vegetable oil?

>> No.17458973

>>17458966
yes

>> No.17459124

I should hope so. I rendered some today and will render more tomorrow.

>> No.17459174

>>17458653
Nta, but cows are ruminants which allows them to turn PUFAs in their diet into saturated fats, which are healthier.

>> No.17459178
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17459178

>>17458966
Western most in price, Eastern most in quality.

>> No.17459179

>>17459174
who are you calling a poofta you little cunt

>> No.17459186

>>17458409
whats the difference between lard and tallow?

>> No.17459326

>>17459186
lard comes from a pig tallow comes from a cow. if you cant get decent quality lard tallow is a safer bet. or just get some butter and make ghee at home.

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17459628

Snow cap is all I can get locally. It seems ok but there a real rendered pig smell that comes out briefly when it is heated.

>> No.17460587

>>17458402
better than seed oils

>> No.17460591
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17460591

>>17458414
>eating dietary fat
As opposed to what kind of fat?

>> No.17460718

Tallow > clarified butter > coconut > butter > extra virgin olive oil > lard >>>>>> literal fucking poison > seed oils.

Here's how you want to rate your fats:
1. The less PUFAs the better.
2. Prefer saturated fat over mono-saturated fat (especially if you're overweight)
3. How well it handles high heat.

>> No.17460734

>>17459628
>pig fat smells like pig
this can't be happening

>> No.17460746

>>17460718
Voodoo faggot shit, none of this matters.

>> No.17460759

>>17460718
So you fell for the next meme, Karen...

>> No.17460765

Are sneed oils really just a meme? It seems like the people who sperg out about them online are all schizos

>> No.17460783
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17460783

You niggers lard-pilled me so I went and bought some. This cost me $2.26 at Walmart, so the investment was small. I pay more than this for a pound of bottom shelf butter.
Honestly I don't give a shit about health, and I wouldn't trust anything said here regardless. 4chan is not to be trusted with science, and health information based on "studies" is a bunch of conflicting bullshit anyway. Its all okay in moderation, that's the one and only takeaway point.
That said, you idiots from the peanut gallery could still provide something useful, and that is subjective information on what tastes good. All I know at this point is refried beans are better when made using actual lard and not a substitute. What else should I use it for? The only thing on my radar are lardy potato wedges.

>> No.17460786

>>17458402
No . Stop posting this contrarian bullshit every day you absolute autist.

>> No.17460790

>>17458651
what's the problem with those?

>> No.17460791

>>17458973
How so?

>> No.17460883

>>17460783
i buy that also but the problem is it is hydrogenated so it's basically the margarine version of lard

>> No.17460886

>>17460718
Why are pat upper fubic areas bad?

>> No.17460888

>>17459326
Tallow can also come from sheep.

>> No.17460893

>>17460765
OP here...

I don't think seeds oils are bad, I'm just asking about lard.

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17460941

>>17460783
Pastry mostly, basically any pie crust or flatbread, but it also improves fried chicken and roast potatoes as you've noted. webm related if you really like the taste.

>> No.17460947

>>17460791
what kind of fats do you think your ancestors were eating for the past million of years? lard and other animal fats or vegetable oils?

>> No.17460956

>>17460947
Both?

>> No.17460963

>>17460947
You didn't answer my question

>> No.17460968

>>17460783
If you're into baking you could make frenchbread. I'm going to the store to buy some lard to make a loaf later

>> No.17460971

>>17460968
I meant cubanbread

>> No.17460980
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17460980

>>17460783
>That said, you idiots from the peanut gallery could still provide something useful
id say its really a subjectibe thing. lard could definitely be an acquired taste, especially if you never tried it before.
im from eastern yurup, and lard here is traditionally used a lot, but also i was raised as a city boy in modern times, so when I was a kid I was only used to the taste of butter and oils. So when I had do visit my granny's village house every summer and she used to use mainly lard for cooking, I absolutely hated it. She used to just spread it on a toast with some onions on top and make me eat that shit. But once you get used to it, and learn when and how to use it, its amazing. Nowadays I often render it myself, put in jars and just store in the fridge.I mostly use it during winter/autmun, cos it feels too heavy for the summer, but even then you can use it for something like french fries(way better tasting than when fried with any kind of oil).
That being said, its also a good entry into the world of animal fats, its definitely not as "pungent" as beef or sheep tallow. My personal favorite is duck fat, but that also needs needs some getting used to

>> No.17460982

>>17458402
Added fat isn't healthy one way or another, but solid fats are particularly unhealthy. Boiling, steaming, baking and roasting should be preferred to the use of refined fats in cookery when aiming for health.

>> No.17460988

>>17460941
Looks good.

>> No.17460997

>>17460790
Eat local food, the less industrialised the better. Retards like that dude above saying lard is better than vegetable oils is an ignorant fat fuck and probably a burger. Idiots like him have two options:
Vegetable oils with xenoestrogens (much less dangerous than the plastic bottles they use daily)
Animal fat full of hormones and antibiotics, that also act as xenoestrogens.

Eat grass feed animals and cold pressed mineral oils (raw extra virgin olive, and canola/peanut/unsalted butter or ghee for cooking) and you are good to go.

>> No.17461003

>>17460997
meant cold pressed vegetable oils

>> No.17461510

>>17458402
its based

>> No.17461873

>>17460783
Make cuban bread! It's a god tier sandwich bread

>> No.17461884

>>17460968
>>17460971
What recipe do you follow? I made some last night but I feel it isn't as airy as the stuff I get at Cuban bakeries.

>> No.17462171
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17462171

>>17460790
>take fistfuls and fistfuls of seeds
>mash them up in a vat, oily liquid comes out
>pour in some of pic rel
>"don't worry anon it's perfectly safe :^) but this next bit is patented. no peeking!" *closes curtain*
>"here's your rape... I mean canola oil anon :^)"

>> No.17462178

>>17460591
OP is a faggot and eats analsex grease

>> No.17462195

>>17460982
>mfw it's still 1986

>> No.17462198

>>17460783
>refrigeration not required
>unless, for some reason, you find the smell of rancid lard nauseating or something

>> No.17462200

>>17462171
>oh no chemicals!

>> No.17462219

>>17462200
sorry I should have posted a bigger picture. it's hexane, which has never once been tested or assessed for its effect on human health when consumed
>Hexane is a solvent widely used as an industrial cleaner and degreaser and is an ingredient in many consumer products. Easily inhaled or absorbed through the skin, hexane has been recognized for more than 40 years to cause long-lasting and even permanent nerve damage in feet, legs, hands, and arms. Existing regulations do not address consumer use and are not protective enough for workplace exposures.

>> No.17462298

>>17462219
But does vegetable oils CONTAIN hexane?

>> No.17462306

>>17458402
Yes, even high in vitamin D. Nothing compares, its literally the healthiest fat to cook with

>> No.17462311

>>17460783
>He buys lard
Those shits are impure garbage, make your own lard. Dont tell me you throw your bacon grease.

>> No.17462657

>>17462298
they're extracted using hexane. I'm a different anon, but I dont have sources saying that they purge hexane entirely, and I wouldnt trust the notion without a source. I also dont see any benefit to using such oil, and things like cotton are exposed to a LOT of pesticides since cotton is produced for consumption, but then they also extract the oil from the seeds with similar bullshit, which only further exacerbates the potential problems

>> No.17462670

>>17462311
I don't cook much bacon, and pan drippings usually become gravy.

>> No.17462706

>>17462657
I'm no expert, but if a chemical analysis can't detect hexane or pesticides, I can't see why it would matter that they were used.

>> No.17462723

>>17460765
See how it's made and decide for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfk2IXlZdbI

>> No.17462752

>>17462723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFt70EpY4jg

>> No.17462790

>>17462706
that implies that chemical analysis can't detect them. we would need a source. I have no reason to look it up because olive oil does the job just fine

>> No.17462820

>>17458402
it would be if animals in the US didn't eat corn and soy
it's literally made from the organs that concentrate fat-soluble poisons which can't be degraded or excreted - pesticides and naturally occurring plant carcinogens

>> No.17462902

>>17462723
Which parts of this video do you find particularly scary?

>> No.17463392

>>17458414
Some skinny nobody who never ate a real meal and barely holds up a marker.

>> No.17463471

>>17458414
Good to see you're still here, oats anon.

>> No.17463689
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17463689

>>17460783
saute some apple slices with it

>> No.17463702

>>17463689
huh, this actually sounds interesting, im gonna try it
do you just saute them in a pan with some lard?

>> No.17463793

>>17463689
You just eat em as a snack?

>> No.17463804

>>17463702
yep - just treat it like browning a veggie. I add a little salt at the end, but you can also add stuff like cinnamon or allspice. if you brown a bunch of apples then add some water, simmer a bit, then blend them up you have applesauce. may need to add some spices, but if you brown them up nice you shouldn't need any sugar.

>> No.17463809

>>17463793
yeah, they taste like apple pie. can go well with greek yogurt, goat cheese, in some oatmeal, etc. lots of ways to use them but eating alone is tasty enough too.

>> No.17463918

>>17463809
>can go well with greek yogurt
Oh shit, I'd forgotten how fucking tasty stewed apples and yoghurt is. Spent an entire autumn eating that one year. Thanks anon.

>> No.17463970

>Hexane is the solvent that is widely utilized in the process of herbal medicine and bioactive components production and oil industry. However, it may not be completely removed and hexane residue, especially more that standard limit is undesirable. In this study the content of hexane in forty samples (23 brands) of different type of vegetable oil including frying, blended, sunflower, corn, and canola oils were investigated. Although, hexane residue was determined was detected in thirty-six out of forty examined samples, hexane content was below the MRL of 1 mg/kg which set by the EU in all of oil samples.
https://oap-journals.net/ject/article/622

However, they only analyzed vegetable oils from Iran.

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17464015

>>17463918
np bud. enjoy them apples.

>> No.17464039

>>17463970
>hexane content was below the MRL of 1 mg/kg which set by the EU in all of oil samples.
There you go.

>> No.17464746

It is more about the nutrients and fibers you are getting from plant matter than the fats and proteins. If you are making refried beans with lard they're going to taste great. Use them on a carne asada taco and have a big bowl of greens with a vinaigrette and you're set. Just sit there and eat lard all day and you're a lard ass.

>> No.17464815

>>17464746
based. the word "healthy" is my biggest culinary pet-peeve. it's a feelings-word, not quantifiable. "Nutritious" is the word people should be concerned with. "______ is healthy!" is an advertisement, and "______ is unhealthy!" is a 24-hour-news filler headline.

>> No.17465032

>>17464815
I don't know why it is so hard understand. It's like you can't eat chocolate cake anymore because you had a salad. Fucking cook asparagus in bacon grease if you want but eat asparagus. Get a lot of not greasy foods to chew up all that grease and carbs. Snack on fibers as often or more than fats or animal proteins and cut out most sugars most of the time.

Or be forced into ulcerative dieting and pills twenty years earlier than you had to because you won't saute spinach in garlic and olive oil. Or put parmesan cheese on steamed broccoli, that shit is delicious. Eat it.

Whatever you want eat it with a cup of lard but get your fiber and nutrient dense plants to clear it out and support your gut.

Tldr lard is fine eat your fucking vegetables.

>> No.17465207

>>17465032
this post made me force myself to vomit up the KFC I ate an hour ago and go to the kitchen toeat some granola with yoghurt

>> No.17465424

>>17465207
KFC is shit and not even food. They can't even make sides edible. But you're fine every once in a while. Yogurt and granola is sugar and carbs. Eat a fucking butter basted steak with a giant salad.

>> No.17466083

>>17460790
the problem is that your body does not metabolize them properly. Modern industrially produced seed oils (which is the only way to produce them, there is "organic, local" canola oil) cause a breakdown in electron transfer within your mitochondria. They sap you of energy and your body ends up getting fatter as a result because it makes it harder for your cells to break down the food into energy. It's a big reason why obesity rates continued to rise after the 90s even though sugar consumption plummeted

>> No.17466173

Lard is fine, but stay away from whatever lard you're finding at the grocery store. A lot of it is hydrogenated, making it worse for you. Thankfully, making homemade lard isn't very hard, and it's a great way to make use of large chunks of fat that you might not otherwise want to keep in your pork roasts.

>> No.17466183

>>17461003
ty i thought i was retarded

>> No.17466190

>>17460997
>Animal fat full of hormones and antibiotics, that also act as xenoestrogens.
Is there any study that has found traces of hormones or antibiotics IN the fat of animals?