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Have you ever deep fried with this stuff?

>> No.17453499

>>17453497
yeah

>> No.17453513

>>17453497
nope

>> No.17453515

Oh yeah

>> No.17453573

>>17453497
Whats the difference between this and margarine?
Like, can I just spread this on a toast and eat it like margarine?

>> No.17453585
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I should try frying food in general with shortening. I have a feeling that shortening lasts longer without going rancid than its liquid counterparts and it's easier to measure out amounts.

But before I buy it regularly and use it for frying I need to see facts about its stability under high heat, but I haven't seen any studies or research about this on shortening.

Plus there's butter flavored shortening, so like you get the flavor of frying with butter, without the burning vulnerability of butter, and for like a quarter of the price of clarified butter.

>> No.17453588

>>17453573
shortening is 100% fat and it isn't really as soft and spreadable as margarine which has some added water and stuff in it. Also margarine that's intended as a spread has some additional flavors added to make it taste good while shortening in OP's pic >>17453497 tends to have a neutral flavor.

>> No.17453593

>>17453588
I see... So I imagine its something like less flavorful lard or something?

>> No.17453628

>>17453593
that's one way to look at it. sometimes you just need a fat with a neutral flavor. Shortening is mainly used for baking or for frying, not eating as a topping like with butter or margarine.

But shortening is also healthier than all saturated fats which includes lard and butter.
shortening and margarine used to terrible for you because it was trans fat, but trans fat shortening is banned now so modern shortening is made differently so now it's 0% trans fat - even less trans fat than in animal fats.

>> No.17453716

>>17453628
I see. Not sure if we have anythign similar in my country, or at least its not popular enough for supermarkets, i guess i should try to look for something similar in professioal bakeries and shit

>> No.17453725

>>17453593
pretty much. crisco is a "healthier" (because vegetable lol) replacement for lard.

>> No.17453811

>>17453725
it being from plants doesn’t make it healthier than animals fats. it’s healthier because it’s lower in saturated fat and lower in trans fat than animal fats.

>> No.17453845

>>17453811
>healthier because it’s lower in saturated fat and lower in trans fat
pffft

>> No.17453862

>>17453845
you think i’m wrong? literally just look at the nutritional facts or look up the fat content of butter, lard, and vegetable oil.
or are you implying that the scientific findings that say that saturated fat isn’t good and trans fat is bad is all wrong.

>> No.17453873

>>17453497
I once made kraft mac and cheese with it when I was 7 because I thought it was the same thing as butter.

Me and my sister thought it was the best mac and cheese ever.

>> No.17453874

>>17453497
Faggot

>> No.17453889

>>17453862
>scientific findings
o i am laffin

>> No.17453922

>>17453862
>scientific findings that say that saturated fat isn’t good and trans fat is bad is all wrong
yes.

>> No.17454077

>>17453874
What did xhe mean by this?

>> No.17454415

>>17453862
On a chemical level, a saturated fat doesn't have room for oxidation, so it has greater stability. Considering that the fats you eat are incorporated throughout your body, I'd choose the chemically stable compound over something that oxidizes quickly like most seed oils.

>> No.17455176

>>17453497
why would you cook with lube?

>> No.17455190

>>17453811
RETARD ALERT

>> No.17455294

>>17454415
wouldn't shortening have the same oxidative stability as saturated fat if the oils have been fully hydrogenated and interesterified?

>> No.17455298

>>17455176
You're confusing it with coconut oil. Top notch stuff.

>> No.17455346

>>17455298
If you're doing extreme anal fisting and riding gigantic dildos, crisco's sodomitic qualities has the lasting thickness necessary for such tasks

coconut oil melts too quickly and isn't as viscous

>> No.17455359

>>17455346
this is very true, crisco is for experienced anal explorers

>> No.17455360

>>17455298
If you're shooting black powder firearms, Crisco does alright. Personally, I prefer a mixture of beeswax and olive oil but I certainly wouldn't look down on anyone using Crisco. Straight coconut oil might be a little to thin for summertime shooting tho.

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>>17453628
>But shortening is also healthier than all saturated fats

>> No.17455404

>>17453862
kek

>> No.17455426

>>17455402
got proof that says otherwise?

>> No.17455441

>>17455426
burden of claim, anon

>> No.17455501

>>17455426
I want you to let your manager know that you're doing a bad job at hiding it.

Anyway, Crisco is poison. It's literally cotton seed oil that's been raped and processed into something tasteless. Lard is better in every single way.

>> No.17455561

>>17453628
>But shortening is also healthier than all saturated fats which includes lard and butter.
Thanks mr industry shill, but I'll stick to my tallow.

>> No.17455584

>>17455426
its probably poison
>Sydney Diet Heart Study, a single blinded, parallel group, randomized controlled trial
>Replacement of dietary saturated fats (from animal fats, common margarines, and shortenings) with omega 6 linoleic acid (from safflower oil and safflower oil polyunsaturated margarine).
>The intervention group (n=221) had higher rates of death than controls (n=237) (all cause 17.6% v 11.8%, hazard ratio 1.62 (95% confidence interval 1.00 to 2.64), P=0.05; cardiovascular disease 17.2% v 11.0%, 1.70 (1.03 to 2.80), P=0.04; coronary heart disease 16.3% v 10.1%, 1.74 (1.04 to 2.92), P=0.04).
https://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.e8707

>> No.17455713

>>17455584
>study conducted in 2012, based on data collected in the 1960's.
>Food standards and regulations about consumer fats have changed a lot since 2012 and dramatically since the 60's.
>no mention of polyphenols present in some oils and the potential benefit of those.
>clinical trial only found corellatiation. correlation is not causation.
>the intervention group was given specifically omega-6 from safflower oil. No testing of other oils or shortenings.

I'm not convinced.

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>>17455501
>literally cottonseed oil that's been raped and processed.
yeah you definitely know what you're talking about alright lmao.

are you literally dumb?

>> No.17456113

>>17455722
you do realize thats even worse, right?

>> No.17456302

>>17456113
please elaborate. go on.

>> No.17457215

>>17455722
Damn, didn't even realized they switched to even more poisonous soyl. The name is derived from "crystallized cottonseed oil"

>> No.17457409

>>17455722
BOY I HECKIN' LOVE SOY!

>> No.17457550

>>17457215
>>17457409
how is soy poisonous exactly? do you just believe health conspiracies you heard on a dipshit podcast or something

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>>17457550
>how is soy poisonous exactly?

>> No.17457577

>>17457570
yes that was indeed what i asked. you can't answer it can you

>> No.17457582
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>>17457577
>>17457550
>health conspiracies

>> No.17457601

>>17455713
>>study conducted in 2012, based on data collected in the 1960's.
because the inconvenient results were hidden for decades. should really make you think.

>> No.17457658

I was raised by my grandmother in the 90's and crisco is all she would ever fry in. It was even solid in her "fry daddy"

>> No.17457664

>>17457658
Boomers and niggers are the reason we haven't moved away from trash like this.
I have never seen someone white and under 30 buying margarine or shortening

>> No.17457703

>>17457664
well shortening used to be trash for your health because it was all trans fat. even though shortening isn't trans fat anymore it still has that reputation which is understandable. personally i only cook with expensive extra virgin olive oil and butter, so something "low-class" like shortening would be something i'd look down upon. But then I remembered I also like lots of low class things like chicken nuggies and frozen pizza. So in generally it might be that non-poor white people are just too stuck up to get stuff like this if literally their only reason is "ew i've seen poor people and blacks buy that."

>> No.17457724

>>17453497
It would be extremely painful.

>> No.17457735

>>17457703
because non-subhumans already realized that this shit kills you

>> No.17457737

>>17457735
what part of the vegetable shortening kills you?

>> No.17457848

>>17453497
I fry using lard or homemade rendered lard. I believe i still have some bear lard from the end of last year. I won't argue that its good for you or any gay shit like that, but its cheap and its plentiful. Personally my favorite things to fry just out of pure nostalgia are sliced peppers, chicken wings, and either green tomatoes or onion rings.

>> No.17457855

>>17457737
I think people that believe it kills you have never heard of moderation.

>> No.17458754

>>17455294
>A man who's taken as many dicks up his ass as humanly possible and can no longer take any more dicks up his ass is basically a straight man
This is you.

>> No.17458769

>>17457855
>MUH moderation.
the retards favorite catch all. if you have any problem its your fault for not moderating. go moderate some cyanide faggot

>> No.17458986

>>17458754
>>17458769

why do anti-soys act more soy and mentally unfortunate than actual soys?

>> No.17459019

>>17458986
>mentally unfortunate
ESL or retarded. anything you say will be disregarded

>> No.17459088

>>17453497
I've never fried stuff in it, but it's well known to be an excellent anal lubricant

>> No.17459100

>>17459088
Really? Show me ;)

>> No.17459114

>>17453497
It sounds like a cleaning product, I don't know how people could actually eat this

>> No.17459130

>>17459100
Sure, bend over cutie :)