Soul food's authenticity

[Anonymous No.17319654]

Is soul food just a cheap cop out to make African Americans feel relevant in gastronomy cumulating white food or is their some validity to soul food being African American?

[Anonymous No.17319655]

>>17319654
Yes

[Anonymous No.17319658]

>>17319654
It's the tradition of it as well as how the meals got put together. Soul food is based. I fucking miss it. I just had a can of tuna as my "got home from the bar" snack. I didn't even drink tonigh.t

[Anonymous No.17319669]

Poor blacks had to make do with what they could get/afford. The shitty cuts of meat and barely edible veggies that whites either tossed out or sold for next to nothing became the staple diet for the negro.
So it's kind of neat that they fashioned something edible out of literal garbage.

[Anonymous No.17319708]

>>17319658
I like it but I still see as btec version of white american food

[Anonymous No.17319727]

>>17319669
You seem to be the racist, as is very common with your types. I simply don't give a shit about your fucking nations and don't want to visit them.
If you want to call me racist for disagreeing with you then you must have been shillary supporters since that's the best that they can do.
Are you still seething in your closets because Trump beat your annointed one?

[Anonymous No.17319806]

>>17319655
/thread

[Anonymous No.17319829]

Soul Food is the cuisine of both poor white and black southerners

[Anonymous No.17319830]

>>17319655
yes its a cop out of white food or is it culture

[Anonymous No.17319860]

>>17319669
The barely edible veggies I think you're talking about come from Africa, so I doubt they ate those because they were poor but because it was traditional.

[Anonymous No.17319866]

Nah not really. Like many types of cuisine it was made from food that the rich land owners didn't want.

[Anonymous No.17319888]

>>17319654
kys poltroll

[Anonymous No.17319895]

>>17319866
yeah but I can dispute that it was theirs or purely theirs, as their have been numerous information detailing that the remnants of the food was eaten by poor southern whites first.

[Anonymous No.17319910]

>>17319888
take your meds retard, soul food is pinnacle gastronomy. Seethe

[Anonymous No.17319912]

>>17319654
Why do niggers insist on calling their "meals" "soul food". They are literally the most soulless looking meals I have ever seen. I hate niggers so fucking much.

[Anonymous No.17319916]

>>17319669
>whites didn’t eat chicken
>whites didn’t eat collard greens
>whites didn’t eat okra
>whites didn’t eat Mac and cheese
>whites didn’t eat ribs
Lmao what a retard

[Anonymous No.17319923]

>>17319916
Okra is African, so they definitely weren't eating it before the slave trade.

[Anonymous No.17320270]

>>17319912
Part of the black american psyche is constantly being in the opposite state of hygge

[Anonymous No.17320302]

>>17319912
based
I will now make some meatballs.

[Anonymous No.17320344]

>>17319654
Black culture has made some priceless gifts to humanity especially in the form of music but the food isn't really worth talking about. I am sure it has sentimental value to a lot of people but that doesn't carry much weight with the general population. I live next to Sylvia's and Red Rooster and if "the best soul food in the country" is merely pretty good, that doesn't really speak well for black american gastronomy. Especially considering one of them is run by a literal swede, come on now.

The best thing about soul food in my opinion is it can produce some unintentional humor from wh*teoid boomers, pic related.

[Anonymous No.17320349]

I don’t know why you people hate black people. My friend Pierre in like 5th grade was an ethiopian and his whole family was very nice and intelligent.

[Anonymous No.17320834]

>>17319654
it's just generic southern food that had a nostalgic taste for blacks who moved to northern cities, that's it. malcom x coined the term

[Anonymous No.17320841]

>>17319669
fried chicken is a luxury because you have to kill a young bird for it. actual poor person chicken is stewing hens

[Anonymous No.17320850]

>>17319860
kale is native to asia minor, okra's origins are disputed but probably from asia also. collards are native to europe

[Anonymous No.17320885]

It would be interesting to read a book about the history of soul food. Maybe I will do that

[Anonymous No.17320898]

>>17319727
This is not a joke. Get checked for schizophrenia. You're ranting on points that were never even made.

[Anonymous No.17321086]

>>17319912
White people are the ones who call anything a black person cooks "soul food", and niggas are tired of that phrase every time they so much as cook anything with chicken or catfish in it.

[Anonymous No.17322564]

>>17319658
I would expound on that and say because families tend to cook and eat together, certain recipes, seasoning mixtures, get passed down.
I've never had authentic soul food that was cooked by a white person. I could try to imitate what I've seen myself but as a white guy I never got that close to the kitchen.

[Anonymous No.17323207]

soul food is cultural appropriation of the highest order

[Anonymous No.17323247]

>>17323207
Nah bruh we waz kangz

[Anonymous No.17323283]

>>17320270
>hygge
Is that like feng shui

[Anonymous No.17323539]

>>17319654
It is valid, but not nearly valid as West Indian food when it comes to authentic "slave food". Fried chicken is something African Americans surely ate, but the soul food genre has a lot of generic southern food under its umbrella.

[Anonymous No.17323549]

I mean there is a reason half of "soul food" is Thanksgiving food. Can't get more American than that.

[Anonymous No.17323645]

>>17323549
oh you mean southern food?

[Anonymous No.17323662]

>>17323539
yeah idk West Indian food also comes the umbrella as inauthentic, due to its roots. The "soul food" is basically southern (white) food.

[Anonymous No.17323669]

>>17323539
yeah idk West Indian food also comes under the umbrella as inauthentic, due to its roots. The "soul food" is basically southern (white) food.

[Anonymous No.17323846]

>>17320270
Jesus, LA really has gone to shit hasn't it.

[Anonymous No.17323879]

>>17323669
>inauthentic
Maybe, but its fucking delicious

[Anonymous No.17323902]

>>17323879
I will admit some dishes are but overall still quite trite, many others even say so. I remember everyone (West Indians) talking it up and when I went there it was mediocre not even comparable to something like Peruvian food.

[Anonymous No.17324154]

>>17319708
What the hell is white about okra?

[Anonymous No.17324157]

>>17324154
I like okra. People in my family like okra. Okra is used in gumbo.

[Anonymous No.17324570]

>>17323902
i mean what is; chifas rule

[Anonymous No.17324607]

>>17324570
I can draw some comparisons like Italian, but West Indian food is overrated and lacks variety. I honestly rather bong food kek.

[Anonymous No.17324676]

>>17322564
They just get good at cooking about 5 dishes because it's all they ever cook.

[Anonymous No.17324687]

>>17319923
>they could import nogs but not plants
big big brains on this fella

[Anonymous No.17324728]

>>17324687
I mean, Europeans don't eat okra. No one there even bothers growing it. It seems like white people only started eating it during the slave trade and it was only white Americans eating it.

[Anonymous No.17324884]

>>17319923
Neither were Africans. They were only eating other Africans

[Anonymous No.17325008]

>>17324157
Gumbo is a multi-ethnic dish. Remove one ethnic group from it, and the whole thing falls apart.

[Anonymous No.17325242]

>>17325008
nah its white

[Anonymous No.17325304]

>>17319654
lmao it's not a matter of opinion.
Enslaved black people were incredibly influential in creating many types of American cuisine as were their African American descendants.

Watch the Netflix documentary High on the Hog if you want to learn about the history of soul food. It's pretty fascinating actually.

Another good food history doc is called "Searching for General Tso" which explains how Chinese food became such a big thing in America and why so many Chinese restaurants almost follow a cookie-cutter approach with the same types of dishes, aesthetic, etc. Also looks for historical evidence of real life General Tso.

If you stop buying into the white supremacist propaganda that white people invented everything worthwhile and actually take a couple hours to learn about history, you can learn some really cool stuff.

[Anonymous No.17325315]

>>17324728
i eat it somewhat regularly, and i live in western europe, but it's true that you can't really find it often in supermarkets

[Anonymous No.17325566]

>>17321086
is that why niggers open up restaurants and call it a soul food kitchen every fucking time?

[Anonymous No.17325665]

>>17325304
i challenge everyone in this thread to find a more reddit post than this

[Anonymous No.17325786]

>>17319654
>is their some validity to soul food being African American?

It it's not African American how come I have to buy it at African American restaurants?

[Anonymous No.17325991]

>>17325665
you mean an informative post that answers OP's questions with over 90% grammatical accuracy and doesn't contain any slurs???

[Anonymous No.17326019]

>>17319654
The only thing authentic about soul food is that they cook grass.

[Anonymous No.17326023]

>>17325991
>grammatical accuracy
>three question marks in a row
shutup, faggot.

[Anonymous No.17326049]

The only authentically black soul food is chitlins (pork offal you have to drown in hot sauce to make edible) and collard greens (leaves that are steamed to a taste and nutrient devoid mush). Everything else was taken from whites.

[Anonymous No.17326085]

>>17319654
it used to be legit but no black woman under 40 cooks

[Anonymous No.17326086]

>>17325991
Does shilling a Netflix show that's probably mostly filler and propaganda really make your post informative?

[Anonymous No.17326115]

>>17319654
>Is soul food just a cheap cop out
Not sure what you mean by that.
It’s a legitimate classification of a certain form of food, using certain ingredients and/or methods of preparation, originating in a certain geographic region.
It is a valid category of “cuisine” by any reasonable sense.

The only issue I have with it is the near-exclusive association people seem to have with it being uniquely African American.
It’s southern poverty food. Sure, blacks ate it during and after slavery, but the countless southern whites who were poor as fuck ate the same stuff.
It’s a regional cuisine unique to an economic demographic, not a racial one.

[Anonymous No.17326125]

>>17322564
their secret is to cook everything with copious amounts of salt, sugar and vegetable shortening

[Anonymous No.17326127]

>>17319727
go back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.17326129]

>>17319654
idk why you think it's for black people, poor whites in the south eat the same shit

[Anonymous No.17326130]

>>17325566
to attract whites

[Anonymous No.17326141]

>>17325991
it mentions netflix, its enough to be considered garbage

[Anonymous No.17326153]

>>17325304
Nigger "soul" cuisine is just white southern food that's been scrubbed with dish soap beforehand

[Anonymous No.17326161]

>>17319654
Coping mechanisms for melanin-rich mutts:
>soul food
>sweet barbecue sauces
>rap
>hollywood

[Anonymous No.17327569]

>>17320349
>Pierre? Like from the song?

[Anonymous No.17327577]

>>17325991
Yes.

[Anonymous No.17328067]

>>17326115
You I'm pretty sure that's what he means about being a cheap cop-out, due to African Americans calling it only theirs. Even nearly all of it is basically white food inherently.

[Anonymous No.17328075]

>>17326129
So why black people exclusively say it's their food, when in reality the food is basically white food.

[Anonymous No.17328081]

>>17326161
Stop being a shill

[Anonymous No.17328115]

>>17326049
Someone with an actual answer, even though those foods could be white aswell. Where did you get your sources?