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17312521 No.17312521 [Reply] [Original]

Is working in the food service industry worthwhile? It seems like it's horribly stressful for low pay.

>> No.17312526

>>17312521
no, which is why they're having such a hard time finding employees

>> No.17312531

>>17312526
/thread

>> No.17312532

no, it's horribly stressful for low pay.

>> No.17312544

>>17312521
it's a job for people who have literally nothing better going for them. the only perk is you don't need to be sober at work

>> No.17312552

i worked in professional kitchens and ran one for a little while. It sucks and its stressful but the adrenaline rush is unmatched. Cooking at home for friends and family doesnt do it for me anymore.

It also killed my passion for food so i had to quit and rethink my relationship with food and work.

If you're interested in doing it then try it out. It's not for everyone but you'll definitely learn a lot

>> No.17312572

>>17312552
Does anyone get a comfortable life working in the industry?

Seems like most positions are low pay. If you're a manager or owner, you can make a living wage or even a good one but you're working so many hours and so stressed that it's not worth it

>> No.17312604

>>17312572
it really depends. I only have experience working in kitchens so i dont have any knowledge on life as a waiter or host or anything.

It's a hard job and it can fuck up a lot of other parts of your life, but it's also energetic and exciting. You can make a career out of it but you really have to be willing to go through some shit.

The best advice I can give is to read Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential. It gives a good pastiche of that life through all the bullshit up to the highest level

>> No.17312901

I worked at a fast food restaurant where I was finishing and wrapping orders, running the fryers, and expediting orders all by myself with one other person starting orders and making drinks. And we received constant massive $50-$100 orders from the likes of grubhub and doordash that would sit out on the counter for hours after completion before being picked up. And we were required to make every order in the sequence that they came in so customers in the store would wait for 15+ minutes while we were working on these orders.

>> No.17312907

>>17312544
More like people who have nothing better going for them and are too weak to go into construction or landscaping.

>> No.17312926

Chipotle always seems to understaff, lately when I go the 1-2 counter people have major suicide eyes.
Lady accidentally ripped my tortilla wrapping my burrito up and burst into this ungodly laughter and said to herself "That's great! That's great! What a great day!"

>> No.17312949

>>17312926
You should have reported her to corporate and gotten her fired

>> No.17312978

I got obese from the massive cortisol spike that came from working full time food service work. Don't do it.

>> No.17312982

>>17312978
>it was the cortisol
>not unlimited access to a deep fat fryer
hmmmmmmmmm

>> No.17312987

>>17312544
basically this, you have to be too dumb to get a job in a warehouse to do food service. that's why they're all teens or angry burnouts

>> No.17312994

>>17312949
agreed

>> No.17313005

>>17312949
Other than actually fucking with my food or refusing me service, I can't actually think of a single thing a wagie would do that would make me give enough of a shit to report them.
They could literally hand me my bag and say "here you go you fat fucking faggot", and I'd just take the food and go.

>> No.17313022

>>17312544
this, i miss going in the back of my subway sparking one, coming out with dirty hands and making a sandwich for the lovely condescending old farts

>> No.17313023

>>17312521
My brother never thought so, he worked his way up from a bartender to head of hilton stuff. I had to work long days myself but fuck all I didn't have to suck up to assholes.

>> No.17313027

>>17313005
I have seen customers make up lies about employees in an attempt to get them in trouble if they did anything less than lick their boots. In fact at two of my jobs as a highschooler I had a customer claim that the manager called him retarded in order to get free stuff from another manager. I wonder if it was the same guy doing it to two different businesses.

>> No.17313035

>>17313005
I'm going to report a wagie today, what business should I pick? can be anywhere, I don't plan to go there

>> No.17313037

>>17313027
I got that once writing code, some bitch tried to claim that my code was hers so I just shut up. She couldn't back up her claims or explain "her" code so she got fired. It was fucking funny.

>> No.17313039

>>17312987
Warehouse jobs are worse than food service. Stuck inside all day, air is filled with cardboard dust, typically nigger music being played over PA, all sports ball talk and no Vidya talk...

>> No.17313042

>>17313035
HR is always easy.

>> No.17313048

>>17313039
dont forget the “no smoking inside” rule but jethro who has worked there since age eleven has a full flavor lit and ready at all times of the day

>> No.17313049

HR and marketing, that's where the morons tend to go.

>> No.17313057

>>17313048
You know that makes no sense.
Get over yourself what does "jethro" have to do with smoking?
You dumb sack of shit.

>> No.17313061

>>17313027
Well, for roughly the past decade, most fastfood establishments have a set of microphones on the ceiling above the registers, and if they're going all in, the cameras have integrated mics, too.

>> No.17313062

>>17313035
Hmmmm
Fuzzy's Tacos

>> No.17313063

>>17313048
You do that the character that played Jethro on Bev Hillbillies went on to be exotially rich from real eastate investments.
So stuff it cunt.

>> No.17313066

>>17313057
>t. jethro

>> No.17313074

>>17313039
warehouses tend to pay twice as much though

>> No.17313075

>>17313061
Do you think anyone watches any of those cameras or listens to any of those recordings? The managers at these places don't care. It's far more effort to go searching for an event occurring in the hours of footage taken than it is to just tell the customer some empty platitudes and give them a free meal coupon. The cameras are basically there for insurance purposes and worker's comp claims. Or I guess if an actual crime occurs and the police need the footage.

>> No.17313077

>>17313027
I don't get it myself but they also had to redesign zoos at some point because a large amount of people liked to chuck rocks at the animals, I think it's just something that's common among roughly 30% of people. Hit a monkey with a rock, report a wagie, take a shit in a public urinal.

>> No.17313078

>>17313057
It’s gotta hurt lacking basic reading comprehension.
Who’s the dumb sack of shit?

>> No.17313086

Sadly working in a restaurant really has no end-game. You can become a manager and manage a bunch of drunks in the kitchen and teenagers who may or may not show up for their shift and you'll constantly be over-worked having to manage customer expectations and your staff. If you happen to be an owner then you can pretty much expect to spend your whole time at the restaurant managing the place and making sure no one is stealing.

If you're a cook then you can eventually get hired on at a fancy restaurant that will pay you well but you will still deal with kitchen bullshit and stress until you die. There's no retirement, 401k or any of that shit.

My landlord actually runs a restaurant and it's a great place but he's here 7 days a week, even when the store is closed he's here managing inventory and shit and it is successful but that's his life. He's an old man who should have retired many years ago but he's here working at his restaurant but maybe that's what he likes.

>> No.17313094

>>17313078
Clearly you since you cant come across with a coherent point.

>> No.17313103

>>17313086
Many of the directors on the board of several fast food chains were franchisee managers at one point. If you provide noticeable value to the business, show ambition and loyalty, and NETWORK, you will go places.

The facts are the people who bitch about not getting recognised/never going anywhere are usually the people who show up 20 minutes late and leave 20 minutes early every day, spend time shooting the shit with coworkers as food gets cold, always have a foot out the door, and never even bother to learn their boss’ name.

>> No.17313110

>>17313094
>i cant understand so it must be you
we are done here lol

>> No.17313112

>>17313103
>Show up 20 minutes late and leave 20 minutes early every day
Sucker, as long as I get to meetings and my code works out then it really doesn't matter when I get in or when I leave. What kind of stupid cunt are you?

>> No.17313121

>>17313075
I've been a co-manager for two businesses, and the handling of the situation depends.
Customer complains to corporate with their receipt information, corporate sends an email down the pipe to the store in question, we read the email, note the time, and check the cameras.
The discretion comes into play is when we send an generic email back with a bit of fluff saying the problem has been handled. However, this is only for the petty complaints, of course. Unless it's something serious, and the employee was legitimately at fault, either a write-up or termination is filed with their signature.

>> No.17313124

>>17313103
You're right there are some higher-ups who did start working there and created opportunities for themselves but there are only so many board of directors a fast food restaurant can have. There are only so many district managers you can have in your state before the roles are gone.

My district manager was a lady who started working at Arbys when she was 16 and had to make the choice of becoming a general manager or going to college. She chose general manager and eventually became a district manager. She's doing well for herself

My last general manager had been the GM for almost 20 years at various
Arbys and will be retiring in the next few years. She's never been more than a GM who is only earning around $50k which isn't bad for the area but she can't go any higher because the current position for a district manager in her area is filled and when the job becomes open she will be competing with other general managers at other locations to get that district manager position.

There's very little growth for you at a restaurant. It is the epitome of a dead-end job. You'll likely become a shift lead / team lead if you show you give a shit but actually getting a role that gives you a salary or paid time off is very slim unless you're there for ages and by then you could've been more successful doing something else.

>> No.17313125

>>17313103
Are you some "diversity" type?
It comes across that way.

>> No.17313129

My gf and I were too broke to eat out at one point so I would just call little caesars or pizza hut and say I spoke to cooperate about an issue I had with my pizza and they told me to call and speak to a manager.

The manager would pretty much just ask me to come in and get a free replacement and not ask for an order # or anything.

>> No.17313132

>>17313124
If a so called "GM" is only making about 50k usd per year then maybe that's not the right job? Figure in the hours as well.

>> No.17313136

>>17313103
Only so many people can advance. Society is a pyramid, not a square.

>> No.17313139

>>17313129
Your gf was cool with that?
I'm mildly surprised.

>> No.17313143

>>17313037
>>17313112
i guess this counts as /ck/ since you can cook an egg on a cpu's heat spreader

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>>17312521
Yea, it's worth it.
The pay sucks, the working conditions suck, the whole thing sucks all around.
The payoff is an esoteric thing.

>> No.17313148

>>17313129
That happened to me once as well, not with a girl. This guy who ran a pizza place in NYC would give me the leftover pizzas, weird times.

>> No.17313157
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>>17313103
Going above and beyond is how you get to be the guy they put all the shit work no one else wants to do on. It becomes your responsibility and no one cares that you do it and are only invested if you don't do it. There's more of a finesse to this type of stuff and you're dropping boilerplate boomer platitudes

>> No.17313162

>>17313139
yes because she saw my potential. I now make $90k a year after learning to code 3 years ago UwU

>> No.17313163

>>17313144
Bang the interns, they don't know any better.

>> No.17313168

>>17312521
I like it because it's like playing in a perpetual football game with how stressful it is and I handle stress like its my bitch. After my first year and realizing that everyone around you is a window licker and you don't have much in common with them if you don't do drugs or have incredibly shitty takes on everything outside of the kitchen you might realize its not for you. Try it out, I'm getting into programming because I would prefer to have non retards around me, and I mean people objectively smarter in most aspects of their life not just some drunkard divorced head chef in his 40s-50s still trying to hook up with 20 something waitresses instead of being in his kids life.

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>>17313157
I know that fucking feel.

>> No.17313170

>>17313162
Congrats, your going far in life.

>> No.17313175

>>17313163
>interns
>at a restaurant
uhhh what?
I'm not into casual sex to begin with, but even if I was I'm not sure what you're on about here.

>> No.17313178

>>17313175
yeah interns, idiots that work for free

>> No.17313184

>>17313178
Wait you mean like, the front-of-house girls?
Those... aren't interns...

>> No.17313199

>>17313184
Oh no, those front of house babes bring in the cash, they don't work for free at all.

>> No.17313202

>>17313175
I think its more of a normal thing outside the states, when I worked in asia there were plenty women who were "interns" who needed to do free work for college credit

>> No.17313206

>>17313184
They suck a lot of cock to bring in business.

>> No.17313207

>>17313199
So... where exactly in a restaurant do you expect to find... interns?

>> No.17313215

>>17313207
As u said for a resturant, front shaking their tits.

>> No.17313221

>>17313157
That is true, though, don't lie - you start laughing heartily on your way to the car after your two weeks is up, and you leaving means someone else gets the shit or the rest of them actually have to work by not standing around chit chatting.

>> No.17313225

>>17313207
Its normal in hotels with restaurants

>> No.17313226

>>17313215
Okay we're having an ESL problem right now.
This is the point where'd I'd just make another of whatever order the injun is on about so I don't have to listen to them babble anymore.

>> No.17313230

>>17313225
>hooters

>> No.17313233

>>17313226
Yeah, make some sense of this someone.
ESL, stuff it cunt.

>> No.17313241
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17313241

Hoot! Hoot!

>> No.17313243

>>17312521
What is hard about putting shit on a burrito and then checking the person out? The faggot just does one at a time... the customer probably has to wait longer but it's not exactly difficult for the faggot unless he's disabled or something.

>> No.17313248

>>17313243
I haven't been to one of those places in about 20 years and the morons behind the counter are the delay. That's why I don't go to those places.

>> No.17313258

anyone got any good gifs or webms of wagie abuse

>> No.17313266

>>17313243
You behind the counter like to blame customers when it's not that at all, it's you morons that have nothing better to do and a certain demographic that seems to expect shit.

>> No.17313273

if you can sit down and read through a 250 page book in a relatively busy week, you are way too smart to be in culinary.

>> No.17313280

Not at fast food but on 57th street in Manhattan, when manning the registers we'd have baseball bats to nail maurading negros who wanted to rob the place. That was no joke.

>> No.17313315

>make a customer's order as fast as possible
>customer complains
>"i felt like I was being rushed, and that they wanted me out the door!"
>make the customer's order at their own "uh..., can i get, uhhh...." pace
>customer still finds a reason to complain
>"your employee didn't want to work, they were being so slow! i was late for my meeting because of them!"
I don't miss it.
I also don't miss the fact that, being white, you're expected to act like a damn cartoon character in terms of friendliness, but no one expects the same out of other enicities even by their own.

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17313373

>>17312572
>>17312521
>industry
Why do insufferable wagies at the bottom of the totem pole love using this word? My theory is it makes them feel special

>> No.17313377

>>17313373
why would you try to understand a wagie? they're just cattle. relax.

>> No.17313384

>>17313221
>goes from 100 to 55 health score two months after you leave
best validation

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>>17313373
>why do people use the correct and common term for something? they should call it something different

>> No.17313438

>hot, loud, often wet
>unusual hours
>no weekends
>heavy lifting
>pay 20% less than the national median
>your boss is either a faceless executive or a chef, literally an artist (look at your local rock band to see why artists make poor managers)
it sucks but it might be getting better

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>>17313373
What word would you prefer?

>> No.17313508

>>17313035
Taco Bell. They take it extremely seriously. I reported it when I got a rancid mexican pizza and the manager personally reached out to me on my cell phone and asked me what time I was there and shit, they wanted extreme details, it was so fucking weird I hung up

>> No.17313532

>>17312521
Probably his coworkers left because the guy can't figure out how to put the mask over his fucking nose.

>> No.17313544

>>17312572
only corporate management (and above) gigs, retirement/care facilities, or private schools offer a good work life balance. anything else usually sucks and is not worth the stress

>> No.17313550

>>17313103
this is completely false
t. lazy line cook worked my way up to director of ops over 10 years. it's about 80% who you know and 20% pretending you work hard.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jifaNxq7IG8

>> No.17313560

>>17312521
working in retail/fast food atm the moment is the worst. with people getting mad because they're not getting paid liveable wages and quitting over it while managers try to bully/guilt trip you into not quitting. just remember these corporations dont give a fuck about you at all and at the end of the day you make a penny while they make a dollar.

>> No.17313564

>>17312521
And now in authoritarian countries, they are forced to check vaccine papers at the door as well as do the checkout and cook the food and pack the food kek.

>> No.17313570

>>17313103
Do boomers actually believe this crap? Going above and beyond at work just ends with you getting fired or demoted for only giving 80% instead of the usual 110% one day

>> No.17313605

>>17313570
Regarding your statement, that's more likely to ring true if it's the work you put in to get better pay becomes the bar that justifies keeping your pay. Aside from that, they'll have an idea to get rid of the employee being paid more in favor of two grunts fresh out of high school.

>> No.17313712

>>17313157
literally this

>> No.17313780

>>17313039
As someone who works warehouse, it really depends on who you know. I made the move to work above base level warehouse employment so I get to listen to my own music instead of rap/hip-hop, and I'm lucky that some of the managers do talk vidya or tabletop, I'd go insane introvert at work otherwise