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>The virgin modern 2000 calorie diet vs the chad medieval calorie furnace
Is the lack of manual labor the only reason behind obesity?

>> No.17212992
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>>17212990
Medieval peasants even ate at least twice the calories we're recommended nowadays.

>> No.17213005

>>17212992
>>17212990
Yes

>> No.17213034
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I wish I was born somewhere in central Europe or Italy in the 8th century...

>> No.17213044

>>17213034
>serf
>dying at 60
lmao

>> No.17213056

>>17212990
>wood chopper 5500 calories
how does a medieval wood chopper get enough calories to not waste away?

>> No.17213059

>>17213034
The pick amalgamates serfs and paysants, as well as how wealthy this class was, and a bunch of other factors, but it got the gist of it.

>> No.17213061

>>17213044
Yeah, they did. When calculating life expectancy from those days, child mortality is accounted for.
Back then, about 40% of kids died before adulthood, which skewed the results.

>> No.17213063

>>17213034
I know this is bait but it still angers me.

>> No.17213109

>>17213056
Taking turns and only chopping a few at a time.

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>>17213034
>serf
>worked 20 hours a week
>owned his own land

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>>17212990

>> No.17213766

>>17213363
I don’t get it

>> No.17213848

>>17212990
>Is the lack of manual labor the only reason behind obesity?
no.
sport is also part of the reason.
we should force kids to participate in gym class again.

>> No.17213900

>>17213034
>serf (sɜːf) noun (esp in medieval Europe) an unfree person, esp one bound to the land. If his lord sold the land, the serf was passed on to the new landlord
>owned his own land

>> No.17213907

>>17213034
in feudal europe, land owns you!

>> No.17214811

>>17212990
excess food intake combined with a sedentary lifestyle is the culprit

>> No.17215418

>>17213848
Sports is just unpractical activity, it's physical labor in all but usefulness

>> No.17215422

>>17213056
>chop wood until hungry
>eat
>continue
This isn't hard at all

>> No.17215449

>>17213034
>le natural living is only so long uwu not the hacking longer living that's bad unlike the shorter livingrino nooooooo you can't live longer reeeeeeeeeeeeee

>> No.17215452

>>17213034
>Head of his household, wife permitting

kek'd

My wife stays at home with the kids and every so often we get into an argument about me not doing "enough" housework. I tell her that I pay 100% of the bills and she doesn't spend 8-9 hours doing housework so what is the complaint. It inevitably turns into this talk about "fairness" which is absurd because even though she is a low maintenance pretty good woman she is still a modern woman: she has this notion that house duties should be evenly divided on top of me working.

Woman want to have their cake and eat it too. In my wife's case she wants an equal division of HER responsibilities. Naturally I end the disagreement by telling her when she works full time we can talk about diving household chores. That shuts her up although to be honest I prefer her at home taking care of the kids and house.

Women are spoiled retards and I say this as a man who loves his wife. You can't ever forget that you are not reasoning with a fellow man.

>> No.17215470

>>17213034
Don't use modern climate control and live in your backyard shed for a year and let me know how much you want to be a serf.

>> No.17215472

>>17215452
Women should never be allowed to vote and it should be legal to rape them on the spot. Islam has the right view of women.

>> No.17216343

>>17213044
Yes. Ignoring infant and child mortalities, if you can make it past 5 years old, your life expectancy was only 10-15 years different than it is today. Just look at the life expectancies in turd world countries.

>> No.17216355

>>17215472
Personally, I'd stop at disenfranchisement.

>> No.17216375

>>17213034
>feudal serf
>owned his own land
Literally the definition of being a serf was being a laborer who didn't own land.

A commoner who owned the land he farmed was a yeoman/freeholder, not a serf.

>> No.17217027

>>17213034
Kek holy fuck people like you are so ungrateful, deluded and spoilt. You’d be in fucking tears if you actually had to experience that kind of life, bet you wouldn’t survive two minutes. You live in a day and age where you have the internet, literally a wealth of knowledge and entertainment at your fingertips, you have modern technology, luxuries and comforts, you can eat like a king with food in abundance, cuisines from all over the world that you can easily try, you can order stuff online and have it delivered in 24 hours or less, all the health care benefits of modern day, dentistry, you can travel the world if you wanted to and had the actual motivation.

You really should move to some shithole country and do manual labour if you really want to experience hardship and see what it was somewhat like back then.

>> No.17217049

>>17217027
>comparing white societies to brown subhuman shitholes
Ya sorry. Try again sweaty

>> No.17217078

>>17215452
She's stuck 24 hours in her workplace. You get out of the house for 8 hours then get to clock off for recreational time, of which she effectively has none.

>> No.17217104

>>17217078
Oh shut the fuck up you have no idea what you're talking about you simp bitch.

>> No.17217195

>>17215452
She cleans and cooks all day.
You come home and she has to then baby you because big worker man needs his downtime.
Poor woman should leave you and find a real man to partner with.

>> No.17217198

>>17215452
This is just you being lazy and excusing it using bad logic. You’re working 8 hours a day yeah, in a job that you’re choosing to do and that you’re getting paid for, yet she has to look after the kids and house 24/7, she isn’t getting paid, she doesn’t get time off and has a lot more responsibility than you do. She’s literally sacrificing her time for the both of you.

If you actually cared and were thoughtful you would help her out, but it sounds like you’re the one that’s actually spoilt and doesn’t realise or think about what she does and what she’s sacrificing for you.

>> No.17217488

>>17213363
lmfao i thought it looked like a speccy screenshot at first too

>> No.17217509

>>17213034
>owned his land
Anon, do you know what serf means?

>> No.17217614

>>17212990
>Is the lack of manual labor the only reason behind obesity?
Processed food. Some tests have been done showing that any kind of diet will keep people slimmer as long as it doesn't have processed food. Diets high in processed food regularly had people consuming like an extra 500-600 calories more.

>> No.17217626

>>17212990
that and the addition of extra fat and sugar in every food to ensure your addiction to the brand.

>> No.17217632

>>17217198
>>17217078
>>17217195
>t. angry femcels or soys

>> No.17217666

>>17213034
Serfs worked 14 hours a day, 7 in the morning, 7 in the evening, with church in between.
Marriage was arranged, ideally to advance social standing.
The landlord owns the land and rents it to the Serf in exchange for a portion of thier harvest AND half their labor going to the lord's crops.
"goods" where whatever you could make yourself or barter for.
The landlord is the undisputed head of all household on thier land, any disagreement can result in eviction, resulting in homelessness, starvation, and shunning by the entire town.
"Society" is being forced to fight other serfs when your lord goes to war with their lord to expand the lord's holdings.
Died around 30 by injury or illness, mostly via war, famine, or accident.

Modern capitalism is just feudalism woth extra steps.

>> No.17217699

>>17217666
>le "died around 30" meme
We get it anon, your teachers repeated false claims on the level of droit-du-seigneur made up during the Renaissance to demonize previous eras and you never figured that out, that's cool and all but it's time to stop posting

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>>17213359
why did you post the inspiration for Le Pol face?

>> No.17217704

>>17217198
A job isn't a choice with a stay at home wife and children, nigger.

>> No.17217710

>>17217198
>a job you're choosing to do
Shit nigger, better choose to stop going to work then since some retard online thinks that's a real possible thing to do. Oh shit, no money, everyone in my family is starving and we're being evicted, damn that's crazy, it's almost like the job I 'chose to do' and 'got paid for' was absolutely foundational to the continued existence of my household.
Shut the fuck up, retard.

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>>17217195
>cleaning, cooking, etc
>taking all day
>in the 21st century
>with the aid of 21st century technology

>> No.17217722

>>17217104
I certainly do, and if you have any brains there was a flicker of comprehension in your mind before you duly suppressed it to continue being an asshole.

>> No.17217735

>>17217722
So he should vacuum when he gets home from work so his wife can look at Facebook for the fifth hour of the day.

>> No.17217754

>>17217703
That's not John Oliver it's the guy who pretended to be a crazy conservative.

>> No.17217820

There are still manual labourers now and they are usually in worse shape than white collar people, so no. Brad in tech is less likely to be obese than Mike in construction.

>> No.17217863

>>17217820
Is that so? Go ahead and post your timestamped physique, bud.

>> No.17217991

>>17217710
>Shit nigger
This just shows you’re a lazy unskilled retard with zero qualifications that can’t find or pick and choose a decent job of his choosing. No wonder your wife is upset with you. Maybe she should be the one working, sounds like you’re failing at your career as well as your home life.

>> No.17218031

>>17217027
shithole countries are full if brown people

>> No.17218036

>>17217863
This is a statistical fact, look it up. I don't need to use an anecdote to prove anything

>> No.17218206

>>17217632
It's hilarious. I'd like to be a stay at home husband if I could.

>> No.17218217

>>17212990
>shearing sheep
>forking hay
>weeding
>hauling water
>chopping wood
>for 8 hours
wtf?
>>17212992
>4 cups of turnips
>8 oz of cheese
who the fuck? what the fuck?
>>17213044
Yeah, possibly even older.
>>17217666
>Died around 30 by injury or illness, mostly via war, famine, or accident.
I don't even know how this one gets repeated because you can just go look up people's gravestones.

>> No.17218498

>>17213061
so the left should actually be
>Feudal Serf
>die before first memory

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>>17215452
>Woman want to have their cake and eat it too.
And they shall.

>> No.17218537

>>17217666
>7 in the morning, 7 in the evening

It gets dark at about 3pm in Britain in Winter?

>> No.17218544

>>17218036
Muscular people have a higher BMI, retard. The construction guy is a muscle machine while you're an out-of-shape dork with high visceral fat but apparently he's fatter because muh BMI.

>> No.17218558

>>17217703
The inspiration for le pol face is Patrick Crusius.

>> No.17218562

>>17212990
No, the presence of snacks and soft drings is. Also, if you eat outside and everybody else is a fatty, you will become a fatty too because the food is geared towards a >3000 kcal diet.

>> No.17218564

>>17213034
>>17215452
depressing

>> No.17218579

>>17215452
Based. That bitch has the easy jobs. It seems worse because it seems all day, but there's plenty more breaks in between and your life is guaranteed. Once those kids are old enough, they can start doing their own chores. They also won't be as much as a pain.

>> No.17218773

>>17213363
please tell me its a merchant and im not mentally ill

>> No.17218790

>>17217715
this. im a student and do my cleaning/cooking. granted im living in a small place, but cleaning takes like half an hour every 3 4 days, doing laundry is literally as easy as pressing buttons and cooking isnt that much active time either. waiting for the food to cook on a fire that wont go out by itself and hanging wet clothes isnt a "job"

>> No.17218832

>>17217078
>>17217195
>>17217198
wow look at all these women being delusional, just like OP's wife

>> No.17218888

>>17215452
You should do some housework, even just cooking once or twice a week or something.

>> No.17218909

>>17218217
people had it rough back in the day, they had to spend all their awake hours doing basic activities for subsistence
ranges or stoves didnt exist, being limited to a pot hanging over a fire they didnt have many cooking options, and ended up just eating the basic foods as is

>> No.17218916

>>17213034
I also wish I lived in the past, because I love dying at 20 of septicemia.

>> No.17219030

>>17215452
Then you don’t actually love your wife.

>> No.17219783

>>17215472
>Islam has the right view of women
It would if it didn't have female genital mutilation. I don't care what you think, If you actualy belive that shit is a good thing then you are a fucking asshole.

>> No.17219810

>>17212990
sugar as well my american friend

>> No.17220017

>>17217666
Straight up historical revisonism get your head out the mud leftie faggot

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>>17219783
Inshallah submit to Allah's(PBUH) will and you shall understand