Why do craft beer nerds copy established styles incorrectly?

[Anonymous No.17203108]

I don't get it. Couldn't you just categorize it as something new instead of misleading consumers. Some anons on here believe they've tried Kölsch, Hefeweizen etc; eventhough they were packed full of adjuncts and won't taste the same as the originals.

[Anonymous No.17203152]

It's an old gif. Today she is probably raising 2+ children sired by a man whose annual income exceeds anything anybody here has seen in their entire life.

[Anonymous No.17203189]

>>17203108
Marketing. How are they going to sell something called Kölsch adjacent, or Hefeweizen inspired?

[Anonymous No.17203216]

>>17203108
>why do tiny breweries whose entire business/marketing model is based on “doing things that the “big” breweries won’t/don’t do” things that the big breweries won’t/don’t do?
How the fuck is anyone here supposed to solve such a mystery?
Even Sherlock Holmes would say “blimey! fuck this shite!”
Nothing short of a special task force combining the A-Team and the Scooby Doo Gang could get to the bottom of this.

[Anonymous No.17203224]

They're trying to be creative while also attaching their creation to something established. Most craft beers are ephemeral regional products and if the breweries tried to sell you on the basic taste profile of the beer rather than the attempted style the beer might not attract consumers to begin with

[Anonymous No.17203233]

So it's sorta like seeing the style and then mentally checking a box for another example of the style tasted becomes the impetus for buying the beer. It is easier to sell a saison than a golden ale because of the specificity of "saison" (associated with a specific country/region, implies brett, herbs/spices...)

[Anonymous No.17203248]

>>17203152
She probably gets drilled by some black drug dealer.

[Anonymous No.17203262]

>>17203108
Crapitalism. Saves money and/or work.

[Anonymous No.17203268]

>>17203189
>>17203224
>>17203233

I understand that breweries try to push their products. I just don't think intentionally mislabeling them is good practice.

There're some good examples though; i.e Weizen Pale Ale, Session IPA, Imperial ~

[Anonymous No.17203326]

boobie

[Anonymous No.17203344]

>>17203108
>Some anons on here believe they've tried Kölsch, Hefeweizen
It's probably mostly americans, they usually look for things that they can call "authentic", "artisanal", or "European". These things are mostly boring and well established products in Europe, but americans, being the perpetual newfags that they are, think they just discovered this obscure, secret, and new product, not only that, it also makes them seem as if they're in on this "complicated" beer/panettone/tea/coffee/whiskey-"science". Americans will pay good money for this cultural bonus, so there

[Anonymous No.17203558]

>>17203108
But I've had originals and the American kind and they're both great

[Anonymous No.17203589]

>>17203248
Very American of you.

[Anonymous No.17203591]

People like European beer because for any style that has been around for a while there are several essentially perfect Euro beers. If you want to make beer it's really hard to beat hundreds and hundreds of years of tradition. It's the same reason microbreweries are always doing meme shit, beer is fundamentally solved and perfected already.

[Anonymous No.17203614]

>>17203344
That's what I observed. I don't think this sort of behavior is beneficial for beer culture.

>>17203558
I'm sure there are really good deviations of original styles but than they should be labeled as such. It would be a shame for people to disregard a style because they didn't liked a spiced up Schwarzbier.

[Anonymous No.17203695]

>>17203248
Mutt’s Law

[Anonymous No.17203707]

>>17203614
It’s pretty common still for Amercans who drink microbrews to also drink Euro beers

[Anonymous No.17203777]

>>17203108
I NEED THAT WOMEN IN MY LIFE

[Anonymous No.17203796]

>>17203707
No doubt about that. Many of those European beers that you guys post about on 4Chan are average. Not bad in terms of their quality and taste but not exceptionally good either.

Currently, I'm based in Germany and it's difficult to get your hands on really good Schwarzbier if you're not living somewhere in the East. I'd be surprised if US consumers would have access to regional specialities.

[Anonymous No.17203900]

>>17203614
But they're practically identical. The best pils I've had has been american easily. Same with hefeweizen. A lot of dark lagers and schwarzbiers made here are pretty traditional as well, although the Czech dark lagers are still my favorite

[Anonymous No.17203919]

>>17203900
Where are you located and which EU Pils/Hefeweizen did you sample?

[Anonymous No.17204018]

>>17203919
Minnesota. I couldn't even tell ya. I used to buy imports quite a bit from a shop that oriented themselves around their import and local selections. The only reason I got into Czech lagers was because of them like 10 years ago. Now I just buy local because 9/10 times a fresh beer beats an import even from the best euro breweries.
This isn't a knock on euro brewing by any means, but they really don't hold some magic key to great beer. Whenever I visit there again I know I'll have fantastic beer, but I also know when I get home I have access to just as good of a product

[Anonymous No.17204140]

>>17204018
Maybe your taste palate is used to US foods and beverages? I've noticed that most US beers have adjunct ingredients such as: sugars, syrups, corn etc, which might make them less dry and more velvety.

When I came home from living abroad in Japan, everything tasted overly salty cause Japanese daily cuisine is pretty bland. You might be experiencing something similar.

Can you name some US beers that you think are better than OG euro styles? I don't know much about IPAs desu.

[Anonymous No.17204158]

>>17203216
Sherlock Holmes would never say "blimey".

[Anonymous No.17204230]

>>17204140
I cook fairly religiously at home to avoid that stuff. Also hate the adjunct filled stouts and shit as well.
Summit Keller pils is the pilsner I was talking about specifically, but a few other small local breweries pump out great pils too.
As for the hefe I really like utepils Bavarian hefeweizen. More clove and spice flavors vs the overwhelming banana/bubblegum flavor a lot of breweries in the states here end up with.
I'm not a big IPA guy anymore. Bells two hearted is very good as well as bent paddle golden hop, but those are the only two I buy anymore.
For stouts, badger Hill HAD a very good one called foundation stout as well as a great ESB. They moved away from it though. There's also a brewery called hammerheart here that pumps out a lot of smoked beers and tradition Norwegian stuff. Grodziskie were popular for a couple years here and I loved it as well. Schell's has a fantastic Berliner Weiss line too

[Anonymous No.17204260]

>>17204158
It would always be preceded by "Cor."

[Anonymous No.17204301]

>>17204230
>Also hate the adjunct filled stouts and shit as well.
The more colorful and gimmicky the can design is the more adjunct ingredients are in the beer. I've no proof for this but that's what I've experienced.
>Summit Keller, utepils Bavarian hefeweizen, Bells two hearted, paddle golden hop
I'll try to get my hands on them when I'm in the US. I feel like I've a lot to catch up on. Especially, IPA's and other beer styles that are hop centric.
>Grodziskie
Have been looking for one of those beers for ages. I think there's one brewery in Germany that produces them aside from the others in Poland.

[Anonymous No.17204310]

>>17204301
>The more colorful and gimmicky the can design is the more adjunct ingredients are in the beer.
Some of the most obnoxious and colorful cans in my local scene come from breweries that specialize in minimalist recipes and unfiltered cannings.

[Anonymous No.17204317]

>>17203248
This

[Anonymous No.17204320]

>>17204301
You might be able to find summit, bells is pretty much everywhere, the other two are Minnesota exclusive I believe, unfortunately. There's a large portion of beer drinkers who want simplicity and tradition and contrary to what most people say, there is a decent selection for them in the states. Maybe not in California or Chicago, but in any other not insane shit hole you can find good stuff

[Anonymous No.17204330]

>>17204301
Oh and I would suggest Toppling Goliath for another widely available IPA focused brewery. They are actually pretty damn good.

[Anonymous No.17204340]

>>17204310
Hudson Valley is guilty of this

[Anonymous No.17204393]

>>17204301
We've got a local brewery that pays local artists for their designs to put on the cans. They do have adjunct this, and dry hopped that, but their straight up lagers, ambers, stouts, etc. are great. They make the only Czech lager I've had from outside of Czechia that tasted like a Czech lager.

[Anonymous No.17205026]

>>17204310
>>17204320
>>17204340
>>17204393
Is there a way you guys can send me some samples? :P

[Anonymous No.17205041]

>>17203108
God damn I love this gif. This chick is amazing.

[Anonymous No.17205083]

>>17203108
Barleywine is the best style of beer, no contest. Luckily a lot of shitty hype breweries have no idea how to make them/they're too much work to make, so they don't even bother.