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/tea/
This thread is for discussing teas, tissanes, and other herbal infusions.
info: types of tea, where to get tea, how to brew tea
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>>17100986

>> No.17131347
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More lio bao today, i need to get some more soon. I'm pretty tempted to get one of those bricks of it from yee on tea

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Order from Yunnan us arrived

>> No.17131410

>>17131367
Nice, those should be some interesting picks

>> No.17131773

my tea from farmer leaf is stuck in shanghai waiting to fly. i really want it to get to me before i travel to visit my family for Christmas so it does not get left out on my porch.

>> No.17131786

I flew on British Airways and liked their tea. Anyone know what brand they serve?

>> No.17131812

>>17131773
offer a sacrifice to the shipping gods, anon

>> No.17131838

>>17131773
Shipping is fucked now, I haven't had a package arrive on time in months.

>> No.17131854

>>17131838
I have, when I pay for DHL or order stateside

>> No.17131891

>>17131854
Basically this.
I order a ton of stuff from Asia, and shipping has been fine if I use an actual courier service, but pretty fucked if it’s going by normal post.
The one “normal post” exception being EMS service from JP Post.

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>> No.17132173

Friend ordered from w2t after me. His package is in NY. Mine is in honk gong :/

>> No.17132179

>>17132165

>> No.17132208

>>17131367
idk how y'all do these small amounts, i have like 35g in a pot and drink it all in a single sitting

>> No.17132325

>>17132208
Gong-fu is ~5-7g per 80-100mL. That's plenty for samples.

>> No.17132480

>>17132208
Because I don’t make a pot. I make a cup.

>> No.17132564

>>17132480
Plus, the whole point of a sample is to try something without committing to a large purchase. If you like it, you buy it in larger amounts.

>> No.17132568

>>17132165
kek

>> No.17132572

>>17132208
same, for me 100g is a sample. only trying something a few times isn't enough

>> No.17132586

I recently broke my cup and for the love of God can't find one that will fit my gaiwan in the whole country.
It's not that i can't find one at all but they all FEEL wrong.
Maybe i am just too autistic about this.

>> No.17132590

>>17132208
>i have like 35g in a pot
That sounds like obscenely large amount. How big pot do you have, Anon?

I generally use 8-10g for session.

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Hi /tea/! My Sideritis came in, and I was wondering if anyone here had any experience with it. I've had a couple of cups myself, one with a bit of honey and one without, and in both cases it definitely has some nice earthy notes to it. It's honestly really pleasant.

>> No.17133596

>>17132921
>Sideritis
>I was wondering if anyone here had any experience with it.
i have been drinking some pretty often lately. i really like the stuff.

>> No.17135106

this is a slow thread

>> No.17135224

>>17131786
seems like it would be tetley or twinnings or something.

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>>17132590
I brew my tea chaiwalla style, not gongfu. In my opinion it's much more useful medicinally in larger amounts.

>> No.17136244

>>17135106
finals week for some of our regulars perhaps?

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>>17132325
Years ago, there was a nice little tea shop in my area run by a married couple of retired professors that did the gong fu set up like in the OP. They're still in business, sort of, just not as a shop. They now only do wholesale, providing east Asian teas to many hotels on the US east coast from Boston to Miami. When they were closing, I bought some of their tea service sets and furniture but the gong fu sets were all sold out already.

>>17131838
How odd. All the packages I've ordered have arrived on time /or earlier/, oddly. But I haven't ordered anything for two or three weeks now (and never do this time of year) as I just guessed everything would be fucked with Christmas coming up.

>>17131329
Any o'y'all done Japanese tea ceremony? There's a place that does it in a 17th century-style estate house here, pic related. It's nice.

>> No.17136748

>>17135106
I am out of tea and so I will unfortunately no longer be able to participate in the discussion here
also it's winter so it's not like there are any new harvests to discuss/compare

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>> No.17136792

>>17136756
>he puts tomato ketchup in his tea
actually disgusting

>> No.17136799

>>17136792
I did half black tea and half fruit punch sports drink yesterday. Wasn’t good.

>> No.17137025

>>17136748
well that sucks

>> No.17137106

Is Japanese shipping ever going to get back to normal? Can i get regular EMS shipping to the US yet?

>> No.17137131

>>17137106
>is shipping ever going to get back to normal
Serious answer; No. It is literally NEVER going to go back to the way it was before. Not in 2022, not in 2025, not in 2030. We will NEVER go back to pre-COVID shipping. Our supply chains have completely and irrevocably collapsed and going forward once we rebuild things will be totally different.
But to answer the actual question that you're asking, probably not for another 2-3 years. We are nowhere near out of the woods and we still haven't even begun to fix shipping - it's getting worse right now and it will continue to decline into 2022. I wouldn't expect things to get better until 2023 and I wouldn't expect a proper new shipping system to "normalize" until 2025~

>> No.17137157

>>17137131
Nice

>> No.17137158

Would you guys consider Kava tea or is it just meme mud?

>> No.17137210

>>17137158
Ive tried it, you have to get it from decent vendors, the first place i got it from it didn't do anything, The second place i got it from it absolutely gives you a buzz that is similar to drinking. It's interesting effects wise, preparing it is a massive hassle and it tastes disgusting with an uncomfortable numbing effect on your tongue and throat. Overall it might be fun to buy 200g or so of a good quality one and try getting a buzz off of it some evening. Ive also read that it can give you a pretty bad hangover but ive never had enough to find out. Keep some fruit juice or something around to chase it and basically chug it like big 4oz shots.
The source i had decent luck with is the kraken kratom website but i cant tell you how they might compare to other vendors or where else might be good to order from.

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>>17137210
I've "had" Kava using this over the counter Yogi brand and felt a little tingly, didn't think it tasted that bad but I think they throw a ton of other stuff in there. Tastes interesting actually. Not bad for a $4 box of tea.

>> No.17137427

>>17137235
Yeah i have a box of that around somewhere they use kava extract and then load it with licorice and spices to cover up the taste, it does something but it's pretty mild. That's fine though i don't really think anything stronger should be sold in the grocery store.

>> No.17137669

Is someone here growing and fermenting his own tea?

>> No.17137728

>>17137669
Im growing a tea bush, i just planted it this spring so i haven't harvested any yet. I might plant some more bushes next year.
I got mine from https://camforest.com/collections/tea-camellias

>> No.17137788

I don't get yellow tea. I tried the YS Fancy Grade Yunnan Yellow Tea and it's pretty good at first, has an appealing fruit and grain taste, but it peters in taste out pretty fast and it's hard to keep it flavorful without it getting astringent which overwhelms the other flavors anyways.

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>>17137788
>YS Fancy Grade Yunnan Yellow Tea
that stuff is not really a "yellow tea" in the strict traditional Chinese sense despite the name. i think it would be better described as a lightly oxidized black tea. traditional Chinese yellow teas is a green tea that undergoes an additional "smothering" step. its a uncommon style of tea and is typically quite expensive for the real deal. here is some: https://sevencups.com/shop-category/yellow-tea/

actually, i have had that exact tea from a previous year. i though it was OK. it had nice almond biscotti and orange blossom thing going on but as you said it got bitter fast and required precise brewing to get the most out it. the longevity seemed fine to me however. i would like to try the pure bud version sometime. i also have had some of that same plantations black teas and found that their pure bud versions somewhat better balance of bitterness to the more delicate flavors. i wonder if they intentionally make their black teas robust because they sell most of their tea on the export market where people often add milk to tea.

>> No.17138111

Yellow tea is a meme, I'm not convinced that its ever worth buying

>> No.17138192

>>17138111
It's not a meme but you can't buy it outside of China so it's not worth bothering with if you're European/American
>y-you can buy it from this vendor
It's not the real Chinese yellow tea, that stuff doesn't leave the country.

>> No.17138584

What's the best value tea out there in terms of flavor to cost? If you were a broke college student what would you drink?

>> No.17138622

>>17138584
2017 XiaGuan " Bian Xiao Zhuan" raw

>> No.17139183

>>17138622
Well it sure is cheap

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Been testing some of my teas in the new storage of some months ago. My cheap 2015 FuDing gong mei is so good for the season lads. Still has a sort of fruity bread flavor and aroma, but the minerality seems to have improved slightly from what I recall. Not huge changes, but it's still quite tasty. Comfy sipper for this season, brewing low at 195F. Was cheap, too. What cakes are you lads cutting into lately?

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Been testing some of my teas in the new storage of some months ago. My cheap 2015 FuDing gong mei cake is so good for the season lads. Still has a sort of fruity bread flavor and aroma, but the already decent minerality seems to have improved slightly from what I recall. Not huge changes, but it's still quite tasty. Comfy sipper for this season, brewing low at 195F. What cakes are you lads cutting into lately?

A side note, yes, it has many stems, but I grabbed more of them for this infusion. I still haven't prepared for the coffee aroma tea yet, but I plan to do so soon. Maybe I should try the same with citrus peel or similar?

>> No.17139212

>>17139192
I really need to get into whites more, i love smooth mellow teas so they should be right up my alley.
I have a bunch of random samples of young sheng, some of it isn't even labeled that I'm trying to work my way through, i don't drink the young stuff often enough and it's nice when i do. I really need to get a young cake of something really bitter. It would be fun to hand on to for half a decade of so and see how it changes over the years in my storage.

>> No.17139241

>>17139204
Yes citrus peel would be really good, i think it would pair great with a white tea, also black and ripe puer. You can save the citrus peel too and let it dry and put some small pieces in with the tea when you brew. I have some dried aged citrus peels (chenpi) that i got a while ago and they brew up tasty on their own or along with some tea. Just watch out for mold if you put the peel in fresh, i should be fine but you might want to let the tea sit in the open air for a bit after the first 24hrs just to make sure excess moisture can evaporate.

>> No.17139272

I would like to get more into tea but I really dont like tea. I can barely bring myself to drink coffee with cream let alone black. Are there any tea not so tea-y in taste? I really dont want to put sugar in it.

>> No.17139274

>>17139212
I absolutely recommend you try some cheap whites if you're into smooth, mellow, light teas as I am. Young and aged whites are both pleasant, though I can really get into the cheap aged shou mei and gong mei whites. It's not uncommon to find some with bready, buttery aromas and/or flavors in my experience. Even a really high grade white can sometimes use some time to age. I have a relatively young 2019 Butterfly/COFCO cake that is really interesting and of obvious quality, but can be harsh sometimes with its potent florality as you go on in infusions despite having so many traits (according to my journal notes, anyway).

I'm probably going to try aging that some more, though I am unsure if I should separate my whites more for the sake of purity of aroma. My sheng has been leeching a bit of the harsh aroma of a bigger chunk to the point I had to separate it yesterday.
>>17139241
I've wanted to try proper chenpi, but have yet to. Closest would be when I put fresh mandarin peel into an infusion (decent) and a cruddy mini tuo. Wouldn't it be fun to make some chenpi balls and other aroma-infused tea as a small project with some anons in the thread?

>> No.17140140

Just found out my affordable fair trade organic daily drinker ripe from a small business actually comes from a single Lahu farm. Explains fluctuations in quality from years to years. Last year's was meh, current's is great. Even better than most of the pricey YS samples I got.

>> No.17140293

>>17138192
isn't it just more oxidised than green but less than black?
>that stuff doesn't leave the country.
why?

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Anyone use a Chinese tea cup for brewing? Seems pretty neat as there's only 1thing to wash.

>> No.17140319

>>17140315
probably most of us here, look up gongfu brewing for min maxing gaiwan usage

>> No.17140325

>>17140319
Cool. Thanks fren.

>> No.17140661

>>17140293
>isn't it just more oxidised than green but less than black?
that description would better describe an oolong. though yellow teas are probably still slightly more oxidized than a green due to how they are made. my understanding is that for at least some of the types the special processing they receive is intended to make them taste like a less "grassy" green tea. the traditional Chinese yellow teas don't taste like black teas.

>that stuff doesn't leave the country.
>why?
i think they they think Junshan Yinzhen is the only Chinese yellow tea and only consider it "real" if it actually came from the small island on a lake it was traditionally grown on. these days its likely a lot of what is sold (even if it claims to be from Junshan) is from the surrounding mainland region and not the island. to make things more confusing some of the producers selling "Junshan Yinzhen" don't do the additional processing steps and just make it like a green tea. the situation is kind of a mess at the moment. there is also Korean "yellow tea" is more like a lightly oxidized black tea (some of the Japanese black teas are like that too but they don't call them "yellow"). these days you occasionally see other teas that are slightly less oxidized than typical black teas from elsewhere being sold as "yellow tea" but the don't necessarily fit any traditional definition.

>> No.17140684

MAN I went to my local teashop and asked for a a recommendation, after arriving home and tasting it turns out it's gunpowder crap
Oh no what the fuck do I do with this, it literally tastes like an ashtray

>> No.17140707

>>17139272
>I would like to get more into tea but I really dont like tea. I can barely bring myself to drink coffee with cream let alone black. Are there any tea not so tea-y in taste? I really dont want to put sugar in it.
try looking into Chinese and Japanese teas. almost none of those are traditionally drank with milk and or sugar (yak butter tea being the exception). a lot of (but not all) the black tea from India is intentionally made for mixing with milk and or sugar because that is how the British (and most of the rest of the "west") drink it. also be carefully not to over brew you tea. i have seen quite a few people say they don't like green tea because all they have ever had was over-brewed cheap green tea bags.

>>17140319
>probably most of us here
i will second that. typically i use a gaiwan for brewing all my Chinese tea.

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>>17140684
>what the fuck do I do with this
you make Moroccan mint tea with it. also if its really that smoky you could also try bending it with some Lapsang souchong for fun.

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>> No.17141014

>>17140898
He can't keep getting away with it!

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>>17141014

>> No.17141176

>>17141148
How much did it weigh?

>> No.17141224

sipping on some fu-zuan today. its a bit tart and sour, a bit smoky and savory, some deep herbaceous notes, not very harsh. kinda the typical fu taste but a bit on the lighter side.

>> No.17141333

>>17141176
idk, not enough register on that scale, but that cup fits +600ml of water and cup made from tempered glass so when it brakes, it explodes spectacularly.

>> No.17141344

>>17140728
Yeah I'm currently blending it with other teas to see if I like some combination of it.
It's extremely smoky, I've tried cheap gunpowder before and it was ok, kinda like cheap green tea with some smoky kick to it, this one tastes like ashtray juice. I think the teashop employee hates me

>> No.17141541

>>17141224
Nice, was it a super stimulating one? I have to save my fu brick for days when im really tired or i end up pacing around like a madman

>> No.17141700

>>17141541
>Nice, was it a super stimulating one?
it seemed like it but then again i used like 14g of it so you would expect it to have some kick. i need to stop breaking off excessive amounts of tea; having too much caffeine doesn't feel great.

>> No.17141731

>>17141700
Damn yeah that's a big piece of tea.

>> No.17141757

>>17140315
I only switch to my teapot when I wanna BIG gongfu

>> No.17141833

>>17140315
i still use my gaiwan when im western brewing

>> No.17141922

>>17140315
>>17140319
>>17141833
bowl with a lid used as a strainer is the ultimate tool for every kind of whole leaf tea brewing. they figured it out quick enough in ancient chink times. whether you strain the liquid into the pitcher for cooling and sharing or straight into the cup is of minuscule importance. you separate the leaves and the brew when you deem the tea is ready and if your leaves are of decent enough quality you get to repeat this process quite a few times.
gaiwan is the eye opener in terms of tea. smell the leaves. smell the lid. drink straight from it.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?414718-1/president-obama-chinese-president-xi-jinping-hangzhou-china
2:50

>> No.17141953

>>17141922
>smell the lid.
I toss my gaiwan lid on my coffee carafe. Traps in heat and gives me heavenly smells when I go for a refill.
>>17139183
I like it so much I bought a bunch of other shit to preserve my kilo.

>> No.17141974

>>17141148
neger

>> No.17141981

>>17141953
dis nigga smells his lid.
I feel pretty bad for dilmah autist that he never graduated.
for most of the corn syrup on ice people is shocking enough when they try hot beverages that are not auto drip coffee.

>> No.17142049

>>17141981
I've also got a lil sniffing cup that came with a $6 ys gaiwan but it doesn't get used.
>dilmah autist
is a legend and should be treated with the utmost respect. Autists get shit on enough merely for existing now.

>> No.17142099

>>17142049
>Autists get shit on enough merely for existing now.
don't think I follow. they should be shat on. just like ((social justice)), fashion transgenders and tik tok watching individuals. we need to shit on you people to carry a semblance of equal representation in the media, I'm sure you understand.
are you saying I shouldn't be shitting on anyone because it doesn't align with your worldview? seems like severe nazism to me. do you even use a gaiwan?

>> No.17142184

>>17142099
>T. Autist

>> No.17142315

I just gotten into looee leaf green tea, tryingaround to find my favorite. I found that the instructions for brewing the sellers give me are way off. They can tell me to use water 70-80c and steep for like 2-3 minutes. It gets completely destroyed. I find using water like 65c is good, even lower for some japanese. First infusion no longer than 1 minute and second/third like 30sec or so. This goes for all greens I've tried so far, then it tastes good/ no bitterness. Am I wrong about this, am I supposed to use hotter water. I always get bitter and like too strong. How you guys do it?

>> No.17142331

>>17142315
>How you guys do it?
we start by stating the brewing method and capacity of the vessel

>> No.17142363

>try japanese green tea
>first tea I tried tasted nice, slightly like seaweed and even kinda savory
>second (more expensive) tea tasted like cauliflower water
Huh? Both were sencha teas, I thought japanese stuff was supposed to be consistent

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>>17142331
Okay yeah I heat water in a pot on the stove using a kitchen termomether. I don't have a scale for the the but I'm using a small measure so I can get consistency. I have disposable tea filters and then I brew it in my glass that's like 300ml but I use like 250ml water or less I think. Pic related is tea filters I use

>> No.17142596

Got myself some Kenia Purple and Ceylon Kenilworth and I think I like the regular Marynnin better. Looks like I'm stuck with this stuff throughout the X-mass season.

On a side note, apparently the local lts shop carries lapacho. Anyone with any experience about it? Sounds interesting, but I don't need yet another bag of stuff I won't ever finish, seriously.

>> No.17142599

>>17140684
You're probably brewing it wrong, but on the off-chance it's simply a supremely low quality Gunpowder why would you ask for a recommendation instead of just picking something out yourself?

>> No.17142915

>>17142315
>Am I wrong about this, am I supposed to use hotter water?
Your numbers sound fine if that's what works for you, some greens are very delicate.

>> No.17142924

>>17142363
It consistently tastes like savory seaweed and vegetable soup

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>>17142596
>lapacho
Never heard of it before, based on pic related i wouldn't suggest women drink it frequently
I'm alway sort of weary about drinking herbs that aren't really well known in the west in case they somehow make me sick and doctors/hospitals have never heard of it.

>> No.17143086

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za05HBtGsgUwatch it full with vol on 11, it'll help you understand the gongfu things

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>>17142599
Maybe, I'm no tea expert so I could be brewing it wrong. I'm brewing gong fu with 80c for a minute and a half. I've tried lowering and increasing the temperature and time but it still tastes too smoky for me.
Pic related is the tea, I can't tell if it's low quality by just looking at it. But it

>> No.17143342

>>17143127
If it's too smokey than it's too smokey, different brew techniques aren't going to help with a smokey tea any.

>> No.17144061

>>17143127
>gong fu
>minute and a half with 80c
Yeah, no wonder it's bitter. 70c~, and if you're actually doing gong fu (small amount of water, large amount of leaf) then you should be infusing 20s max, probably around 10s for the first infusion.
80c and minute thirty sounds like Western style, full teapot of water levels of steep.

>> No.17144098

anybody else enjoy drinking corn silk?

>> No.17144135

>>17143342
I disagree, Gunpowder is just a somewhat finnicky tea. It is a somewhat bitter and somewhat "smoky" tea by nature, that is the flavor profile, but it is very much supposed to be an enjoyable level of those and not an overwhelming "fuck this is like drinking an ash tray of burnt lapsang souchoung"
>>17144061
To add on to this; Gong Fu for Gunpowder is around 6g of tea for 125~ ml of water, the more compact varieties you could probably even use 5g. If you want a weaker brew, and just want to fill most of a cup'mug you could probably do 6g to 250ml and steep for 30s, you'd get a weaker tea than a traditional gongfu but I think it'd still have drinkable levels of flavor. An important step you'd probably benefit from is rinsing; the Chinese do it a lot and while you'll hear a dozen different reasons the primary benefit will be rinsing away any loose bits of dust that steep extremely quickly. Add just enough hot water to cover the tea, and it can be a bit hotter than you'd normally use to brew, and steep it for 5-10s before pouring that tea down the drain. This will remove the most immediate bitter/smoky notes and ideally wash away a good amount of the dust allowing the rest of your infusions to be much more mild and balanced.
If this is your first time brewing Gunpowder then yes in my (limited) experience it's a very finnicky Green tea that needs to be finessed to get a mild and balanced cup and it's incredibly easy to oversteep it and get an unpleasant cup of tea.

>> No.17144145 [DELETED] 

>>17142315
>>17143127
Brew more lightly. If you're doing gong fu, your infusions do not need to be so drastically long. If much shorter infusions don't make it more palatable, consider also lowering the temperature. Either way, gunpowder is gunpowder. It's part of the learning process.
>>17142315
>>17142591
Remember this: the hotter and/or longer you infuse something, the more its contents will be extracted. This means it may become 'thicker', or more dry/bitter with tannins and so on. Furthermore, the more surface area there is, the more readily it will extract. This can lead to a complete obscuring of all subtlety and aroma in many cases (but not all). Additionally, if your leaf is small/fine (take most teabag portions of tea for example), it extracts more quickly, and thus will most likely require more gentle infusion parameters. So, in your case:
>Use more leaf, especially whole leaf portions.
>Decrease infusion time across the board.
>Consider decreasing temperature if necessary.
If you're open to Gong Fu brewing with a gaiwan or pot (no more paper filters), I think you'll find this a lot easier to accomplish. Either way, you can test my recommendations even with your current system and find some improvements.

>> No.17144150

>>17143127
Brew more lightly. If you're doing Gong Fu, your infusions do not need to be so drastically long. If much shorter infusions don't make it more palatable, consider also lowering the temperature. Either way, gunpowder is gunpowder. It's part of the learning process.
>>17142315
>>17142591
Remember this: the hotter and/or longer you infuse something, the more its contents will be extracted. This means it may become 'thicker', or more dry/bitter with tannins and so on. Furthermore, the more surface area there is, the more readily it will extract. This can lead to a complete obscuring of all subtlety and aroma in many cases (but not all). Additionally, if your leaf is small/fine (take most teabag portions of tea for example), it extracts more quickly, and thus will most likely require more gentle infusion parameters. So, in your case:
>Use more leaf, especially whole leaf portions.
>Decrease infusion time across the board.
>Consider decreasing temperature if necessary.
If you're open to Gong Fu brewing with a gaiwan or pot (no more paper filters), I think you'll find this a lot easier to accomplish. Either way, you can test my recommendations even with your current system and find some improvements.

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>feel depressed
>make oily cup of chamomile tea
>no longer depressed
>repeat whenever it comes to mind
This really is something. After making it a deliberate response to negative feelings and administrating it like medication it only gets more effective every day. I even wake up happier sometimes. I can really feel how my body is actually holding onto and using all of the constituents. It's helped me think a lot clearer just instantly being put into a good mood. Even weed isn't reliable like this and I'm actually going to quit when I run out and replace the habit with tea entirely, in pursuit of a career.

Other sleepy herbs feel really nice too, but none of them taste nearly as good as chamomile, especially when steeped for long times. It is impossible for chamomile to become truly bitter. In fact, putting chamomile tea bags in coffee will make the coffee taste like water pH wise. Coffee is foul, though. Once I am done dropping out of college and can focus on getting real tea equipment and loose leaf it will be even better.

Chamomile on its own really is a whole body regulator, though, as in it can be stimulating. I just made some tea at 3 am when I was tired and I feel energized and everything. I'm actually amped for no reason at all. The Chinese are right about long-term herb usage with X cups a day, it wasn't working like this at all when I was only drinking one or two dilute cups a day and not every day.

>> No.17144626

>>17144590
I'll add that a side effect of this approach to life is increased bleeding, as coumarin is a real chemical and it is in chamomile. I've had more nose bleeding to an annoying extent (like a river for over 15 minutes at a time) and acne has gotten kinda bad and MUCH bloodier than I've ever had in my life. What this means is that my blood pressure is very low, so low that it's practically falling out of my body. I reminded to add this as it is bleeding right now.

Now the trick with this scenario is that in nearly the exact time it will take for my nose to get back to normal, I can make another cup of tea.

>> No.17144705

>>17144590
Tea and coffee are like this for me, everything improves for me with a regular regimen. Cannabis helps a lot more but in the absence of it it's a lot more noticeable how much of an effect the others have. You know tea used to be used as medicine by the Chinese? Nobody could use it except the royalty and monks. Kind of funny, it's something we totally take for granted these days.

>> No.17144771

>>17144590
>oily cup
W-what?

>>17144626
>I'll add that a side effect of this approach to life is increased bleeding,
That doesn't sound exactly healthy, especially for college aged person.

>> No.17144833

>>17142948
>I'm alway sort of weary about drinking herbs that aren't really well known in the west in case they somehow make me sick and doctors/hospitals have never heard of it.
On the bright side, it would make you feel like a guest star in a House M.D. episode.

>> No.17145326

What teas do you make for friends or family who aren't really in to loose leaf teas? I'm never sure what to make for guests and i feel silly making things like puer or other weird fermented teas for them.

>> No.17145391

>>17145326
Just your average south Asian tea. Darjeeling, ceylon etc. You know. Things that are similar to (but better than) the Tetleys and Liptons they're familiar with already. Just don't go crazy on providing them the best you have. Remember: FTGFOP stands for 'Far Too Good For Ordinary People.'

>> No.17145406

Have any o' y'all ever heard of blooming tea and discarding the water then rebrewing with more fresh water? Does this make sense?
Tea in pot. Add water. Wait a few seconds. Discard water. Add more water. Brew tea. Heard of this process?

>> No.17145423

>>17145406
>blooming tea
theres balls of tea with flowers that open up when brewed, tastes meh to bad but looks pretty. but i guessing you're talking about washing/rinsing the leaf before brewing and drinking, yeah thats recommended(i still drink the wash) it can help open up rolled or densely packed tea leaves and the wash/1st cup is usually so weak its not worth drinking. wash/rinse for 10sec

>> No.17145489

>>17145423
Ah, okay. So you call it washing. Fair enough. The person who told me about the process called it 'blooming.' I do that now for some teas, particularly if they're a bit harsh. Perhaps Anon with the bad gunpowder could try that and see if it improves the brew?

>> No.17145506

>>17144771
Strong chamomile tea tastes oily. If it is too weak it just tastes like lukewarm grass water, no fun

>> No.17145508

>>17145406
Yeah ive read about that, especially in terms of gunpowder green and making Moroccan mint tea.
Also more generally the concept or rinsing tea is the same thing, add hot water for a few seconds, dump out, rhen actually brew the tea.

>> No.17145510

Gonna check out a store today in a town I used to live in.
Awesome little tea shop run by a nice Chinese lady who basically forces tea tastings on anyone who comes in and isn’t 100% certain what they want.

>> No.17145528

>>17145506
"strong chamomile" almost seems like an oxymoron like 'jumbo shrimp' or 'black employment.'

>> No.17145550

>>17145510
Nice, ask her for some roasted oolongs

>> No.17145615

Brewing up a big mug of stinky ripe this morning, almost out of ripes i will need to get more soon.

>> No.17145640

>go to my local tea shop
>ask the owner if he's had yellow tea, not expecting him to have it but curious what his impressions are
>he actually stocks Huo Shan Huang Ya but everyone in this city are ignorant and have no clue what yellow tea is, it doesn't sell at all
>got 25g for free and if I enjoy it he'll cut me a special deal so it doesn't go to waste
Kinda excited to have an affordable source of yellow tea if it's good.

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Best tea brand I can buy on Amazon with EBT? That's food stamps for non niggers. For example Harney and Sons and Tao of Tea are EBT eligible. Not every tea is EBT eligible for some reason.

Here's some examples.

>> No.17145649

>>17145646
Why are you buying food stamps on tea?
Shouldn't you be drinking real food?

>> No.17145651

>>17145649
Perhaps I should buy soda instead like everybody else with food stamps?

>> No.17145661

>>17145651
You should buy tap water and real food and work towards getting a real job like a functioning human.

>> No.17145667

>>17145661
I just want to know what's the best EBT eligible brands of tea on Amazon. I know that Tao of Tea and Harney and Sons are decent quality usually. Though I'm hoping to find something higher quality that's eligible. Poor people can have nice things as well and there's nothing wrong with that.

>> No.17145670

>>17145667
I didn’t even know Amazon took ebt, and I’m sure most people here have no idea what to suggest.
Chances are you’re already the “resident expert” on this topic.

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>>17145670
In Amazon grocery you can click a check box to show only EBT eligible stuff

>> No.17145696

>>17145667
>"poor" people who don't work for a living are eating premium steaks and drinking gyokuro on my dime while I wageslave

>> No.17145703

>>17145682
Do you have a local halal or Asian grocer?
You’d be better off going there.

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>>17145696
I can get gyokuro

>> No.17145750

>people getting offended at a poor person wanting to drink good tea
Brewing premium tea (most) is more economical than buying bottle water.

>> No.17145805

>>17145708
What the fuck is wrong with society? SNAP EBT/foodstamps are supposed to be so poor people can afford the bare essentials to not starve to death, not so they can gorge themselves on luxury goods.

>> No.17145812

>>17145805
>SNAP EBT/foodstamps are supposed to be so poor people can afford the bare essentials to not starve to death
It's an excuse to tax the middle class out of existence.

>> No.17145828

>>17145646
Probably hareny and sons, i dunno there isint much good tea on amazon but they are consistently okay i guess. Maybe vandham but i dunno if they are ebt able.

>> No.17145836

>>17145708
Oh capital teas, might be good, there a few shops with that name and at least one of them is pretty decent. There is a puer store in the pastebin links in the OP for the dayi / taetea store on Amazon but I'm guessing they aren't in the ebt program.

>> No.17145838

>>17145805
Tea isn't a luxury good. It's not the 17th century anymore.

>> No.17145842

>>17145750
You have to buy bottled water to brew said premium tea, because poor people don't have good tapwater.

>> No.17145853

>>17145838
Anything over 10c/gram is a luxury tea.
The only tea in his picture poor people should be drinking is that 1lb bulk bag of Gunpowder.

>> No.17145866

>>17145853
>NOOO you can't enjoy things
American brain

>> No.17145873

>>17145853
That means Lipton is a luxury tea.

>> No.17145880

>>17145873
Probably, overpriced garbage.
You can get decent loose leaf for 10c/g easily, maybe not on foodstamps amazon though.

>> No.17145920

>>17145646
>Best tea brand I can buy on Amazon with EBT?
what sorts of tea are you looking for?

>Tao of Tea and Harney and Sons
those are some of the better options on amazon.

>> No.17145928

>>17145920
I mostly drink Chinese green tea and sencha. I like oolong and puer as well. Black tea is good as well as long as it's not strong. I don't like strong teas.

>> No.17145937

People here say loose tea from some good tea shop is better than teabags or loose tea from your grocery store. How much better? Should I order some from a local tea shop? If so which kind?nwdsx

>> No.17145948

>>17131347
Looks very dark. What is it?

>> No.17145959

How are Sugimoto teas?

>> No.17145978

>>17145646
>buy tea with ebt
>put in small plastic bags
>sell to kids as marijuana
>ghetto life

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By the way, here is a list of a lot of the brands of EBT eligible teas on Amazon.

>> No.17146008

>>17145842
>poor people don't have good tapwater.
What country are you in?

>> No.17146022

What's a good brand of teabags to bring to work? Been having Twinings but I want something with more caffeine to wake up in the morning.

>> No.17146028

>>17145928
perhaps look into Sugimoto brand teas then.
https://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Green-Tea-Loose-Package/dp/B00DDGRE0M
https://www.amazon.com/SA-Japanese-Green-Tea-Loose/dp/B001A4DM64
https://www.amazon.com/SA-Japanese-Green-Tea-2-0-Ounce/dp/B004INCXSM

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>>17145937
Until you know what kind of tea you like, buying teabags will be cheaper than loose leaf. When you figure out what you like, then you start buying loose leaf from the dedicated tea shops.

English breakfast tea from tourist shop with traditional English breakfast.

>> No.17146071

>>17146028
Have you ever drank Sugimoto teas? The bright green sencha on the package looks deceptive because there's no way you're getting that jade green of liquor with sencha that cheap.

>> No.17146077

>>17146008
America?

>> No.17146082

>>17146071
wtf Sugimoto is shit?

>> No.17146095

>>17146082
I'm asking because I've never drank Sugimoto tea.

>> No.17146111

>>17146077
Bruh, America's huge. The tapwater varies massively across the whole country. Literally undrinkable in some spots, better than bottled in others.

>> No.17146113

>>17146071
>Have you ever drank Sugimoto teas?
no, but they are a well know longstanding Japanese brand so i would expect it to be ok for the price. its not going to be super fancy but i think it should be fine as more of a "store grade" tea.
https://www.sugimotousa.com/the-sugimoto-story

>The bright green sencha on the package looks deceptive because there's no way you're getting that jade green of liquor with sencha that cheap.
agreed, but its pretty common to see super green tea advertised. you are not going to get tea that green very often in general. I suspect companies use distilled water or something for there publicity shots in order to enhance the effect.

>> No.17146155

>>17145948
That was this tea
https://www.chawangshop.com/hei-cha/guangxi-liubao-cha/2014-2010-china-tea-t1101-first-grade-liubao-tea-150g.html
Probably not the best intro to liubao unless you like the flavor of beets aging in a dirt root cellar

>> No.17146161

>>17146022
Pg tips, builders

>> No.17146173

>havent drank any tea in months
>got tons of it sitting around
coffee did this to me. how can i kick the coffee addiction? its the richness and strong flavor that keeps pulling me back to it.

>> No.17146353

>>17146173
Drink more tea

>> No.17146400

>>17146173
Coffee in the mornings, tea at night.

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Hello Teamed. Ive come to you to ask you if there is a tea that tastes like senna tea but doesn't make you shit yourself?

>> No.17146458

>>17145646
strongly recommending the gunpowder

>> No.17146465

>>17146173
try a mamri chai, strong milk tea, very comparable to coffee

>> No.17146472

>>17146458
I have two tins of those Tao of Tea Gunpowder. Drink it all the time.

>> No.17146522

>>17146022
Put 2-3 teabags in one cup, or drink coffee

>> No.17146538

>>17146071
>>17146095
>>17146173
Learn English, retards

>> No.17146701

>>17146173
Don't sweat it and just drink coffee.

>> No.17146719

>>17145937
Depends on the tea shop and grocer; it varies. Most loose tea from western grocers will be of lower quality or old. Eastern/Asian grocers can sometimes carry better stuff, but it's a bit of a gamble unless you know what to look for. Tea shops will probably have better leaf, but that is strongly based on geographical opportunity. Still, I'd sooner drink some cheap whole leaf from a site like Fullchea than most bags, even Asian grocer whole leaf tea, before those touted as being premium bagged teas.
>>17146173
More aged shou pu'er or dark tea.

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For what it's worth, sticking a cinnamon stick in the pot/infuser as you're preparing tsai tou vounou has extremely good results. The resulting aroma is wonderful.

>> No.17146818

>>17146036
>buying teabags will be cheaper than loose leaf
Really depends how much tea you drink. When you are using two bags per cup and drinking several cups a day, bagged tea can conjure a nasty weekly bill.

>> No.17146823
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A word of warning. Never get any lapsang souchang.

>> No.17146839

>>17146823
C'mon, it's not that bad...

>> No.17146860

>>17146823
smoked tea is max comfy, drinking some right now

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17146887

I was just about to order some David's Tea Cardamom french toast and it's motha fuckin out of stock, i'm so upset

I don't usually drink tea but I'm trying to start to curb my appetite and this is the best tea I've ever had. It has some stevia in it and actual little pieces of dehydrated french toast and such, it creates such a richer/deeper flavor than I've ever had with any other tea.

Are there some other brands of tea that make stuff like this? I bought some republic of tea vanilla cupcake but it just tastes like nothing. It doesn't have to be something I can buy from a store, ordering online is fine, but I'm looking to not spend a huge amount of money either

>> No.17146912

>>17146522
I don't know why this didn't occur to me

>> No.17147039
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>>17146823
lmao
lol

>> No.17147066

>>17145510
Bah, ended up not going.
It was in a part of town that would have taken me 40min out of my way just in terms of driving, plus time spent in the store.

>> No.17147080

>>17146173
Try matcha.
I was the opposite; I was entirely a coffee person and didn’t drink tea beyond bottled Ito En stuff because it’s refreshing as fuck.
But when I decided to try starting my mornings with a bowl of strong good quality matcha?
Fucking RIP coffee. Just as much intense rich taste, just as much pick-me-up, and less of a crash.

>> No.17147304

>>17146823
Smoked tea is fantastic

>> No.17147314

>>17146887
Adagio
https://www.adagio.com/flavors/index.html

>> No.17147431

>>17146818
If you already know what you like and are drinking kettles-full per day, then switch to loose leaf. I think bagged is best only when you’re starting to figure out what you like. It’s well noted the tea leaf quality in bags is low. It’s the dust and broken leaves that goes into teabags, not good full leaves which are best for brewing.

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>>17146823
Pic related is mfw. Couldn’t get over the smell to even drink it. I poured out the whole kettle. Almost tossed the kettle itself. Definitely tossed the smoky Chinese tea. Afraid to try Russian caravan tea for fear of getting the same stench.

>> No.17147467

>>17147446
It's just cheap lapsang that's the issue, it's smoked with pine logs and the low quality stuff is acrid and bitter smoke that's really overpowering. Good smoked teas aren't horrifyingly pungent like that. Hard to say with Russian caravan because it's very varied from blend to blend.

>> No.17147473

>>17147467
I had Harney & Sons. Can you recommend a better brand of lapsang souchang that wion’t stink up my house?

>> No.17147507

>>17147473
This is still a very smokey tea, but it won't be acrid and bitter
https://marktwendell.com/shop-by-tea-type/hu-kwa-tea
If you want a mild lapsang that isn't really smokey at all
https://yunnansourcing.us/products/zheng-shan-xiao-zhong-of-wu-yi-fujian-black-tea?_pos=3&_sid=6576a583d&_ss=r

>> No.17147590

>>17147446
>Couldn’t get over the smell to even drink it.
it usually tastes far more mild than it smells. why did you buy it if you don't like the smell of smoke?

>>17147473
>I had Harney & Sons. Can you recommend a better brand of lapsang souchang that wion’t stink up my house?
don't buy any western style lapsang souchong then as its supposed to be smokey. you could try an unsmoked Zheng Shan Xiao Zhong which is the progenitor tea to "lapsang souchong" but its not quite the same thing.

>> No.17147662

Is it bad for your teeth to brush with baking soda often?

>> No.17147707

>>17147662
just use arm&hammer toothpaste bro

>> No.17147770

>>17147662
If you're trying to avoid tea stains, just get in the habit of rinsing with clean water after each session. Brush nightly. It's not so bad.

>> No.17147816

>>17147770
Idiot

>> No.17147818

>>17147662
>Is it bad for your teeth to brush with baking soda often?
Yes, don't do it often

>> No.17147883

>>17146823
>>17147446

What a bitches of tastelets both of you are

>> No.17148027

>>17147314
thanks this indeed looks similar

I also ordered some david's forever nuts. looks to be their best seller.

unrelated question do you guys have suggestions on ceramic mugs that are 100% not made in china? anywhere else is fine, i assume french would make good ones. looking for 12oz mugs though

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>>17148027
Yeah Pillivuyt makes porcelain mugs in france, you can find good deals on ebay if you look around. Fantastic quality
https://pillivuytshop.com/

>> No.17148057

>>17148047
thanks m8. maybe i will get into this enough to drink actual tea and not this flavored shit

i bought some gunpowder like 10 years ago and it definitely made an impression on me, i have some matcha also right now. i actually add matcha to kratom tea sometimes. i know this is probably heresy

do you make tea lattes? i was thinking i'd really enjoy that but i've never even had a chai latte or anything

>> No.17148061

>>17148027
You can also search
limoges mug
On ebay, its a frech region famous for porcelain manufacturing, so most of the companies that make mugs there will print limoges on the base, makes it easy to look through a big selection of different brands of french porcelain.

>> No.17148067

>>17148061
thanks yall are super helpful :)

i've actually heard that word before, my mom is into nice porcelain stuff

>> No.17148151

>>17148067
>yall
Just stop. I get it, you’re a person of gender. You’re not being folksy or down to earth appropriating a southern US colloquialism. Have a samovar of puerh and go to the local dyke bar and start decking any bitch that side eyes you.

>> No.17148158

>>17148151
what the heck? i genuinely don't get this reaction
i'm from south carolina..??

>> No.17148214

>>17147590
I was trying different and new teas at the time. I’d read about Russian caravan teas, read they were a mix of teas iincluding lapsang souchang . People said itms smoky, I just didn’t know how smoky it was.

>> No.17148237

>Oil tea is prepared by frying tealeaves with garlic, salt, ginger, chili, and possibly other ingredients in an iron wok.
https://www.chinahighlights.com/guilin/food/oil-tea.htm

wtf has anyone had tea like this? sounds interesting.

>> No.17148251

>>17148237
i had it before but instead of tea it was rice and i ate the finished product instead of drinking it

>> No.17148583

>>17147816
I think you thought I meant to brush with baking soda frequently. I meant to not use baking soda, but simply rinse with water and brush your teeth with toothpaste like normal.

>> No.17148707

What sort of coffee is best for mixing with tea in a Hong Kong sort of style? I have Orange Pekoe and I was thinking of picking up a bag of a breakfast blend I already quite like.

>> No.17148905

Are there any clay teapot owners here who who can tell us their experience with clay teapots? I'm interested to hear if anybody does. To ask a question in particular, how has the seasoning built up and does it balance with the muting aspect of the clay?
>>17148151
Ugh I hate people like that. I think they just say it because they think "y'all" is a black thing. I'm actually from the south and now I stop myself to say "you all" instead.

>> No.17149173

>>17148707
>What sort of coffee is best for mixing with tea in a Hong Kong sort of style?
interesting concept. hong kong milk tea/non-masala chai is my favorite tea

>> No.17149175

>>17148905
>I'm actually from the south and now I stop myself to say "you all" instead.
it's y'awl

>> No.17149362

Is smoked Green tea a thing?

>> No.17149384

>>17149362
If it gets smoked it going to go from a green tea to become a black tea and not be a green tea anymore. Try some hojicha.

>> No.17149411

>>17149362
yes, cheap gunpowder green tea is smokey, it shouldn't be but it always is

>> No.17149490

What are some nice mild black teas? I got some Ceylon that people complained was too weak and it's too strong for me. I'm not talking about caffeine but the maltiness and acridity. I used to drink exclusively black tea but as I've drank even more teas I've found myself drinking almost exclusively green teas aside from occasional oolong and puer. I've tried brewing black teas for less time but it doesn't improve them for me.

It's palatable to me with milk but I prefer just green tea. I'd rather drink mid range Chinese green tea over premium silver tipped Ceylon.

>> No.17149500

>>17149490
I think the ceylon teas people were talking about were just bad. If you want mild I definitely suggest bud-heavy dianhongs. Also had a bud-heavy laoshan black that was definitely mild.

>> No.17149502

>>17149490
Darjeeling, High Mountain Red Ai Lao off Yunnan sourcing are both more floral than malty, for the acridity try brewing with 90c water not full boiling, or try ripe pureh darker colour but thicker and smother and tastes earth/woody but a little sweet

>> No.17149508

>>17149502
The floralness of Darjeeling is perfumy to me and gives me a headache, and is this Red Ai Lao the same?

>> No.17149509

>>17149508
no its not bug bitten like darjeeling but its on the floral side rather than malty

>> No.17149627

>>17149411
>it shouldn't be but it always is
i would say its intentional for gunpowder green at this point. perhaps it used to be the side effect of wood smoke when dong the kill green but these days all the cheap stuff is going to be made in factories by machine. they probably have a smoking step during the manufacture.

>> No.17149664

>>17149490
>What are some nice mild black teas?
most of the Chinese, Taiwanese or Japanese black teas in general are less acrid then Indian, Sri Lankan, or Nepalese black teas. the British liked to make their tea with milk and sugar and so all their colonial holdings that were made to grow tea tended to make strong tea for this use. and well the UK no longer holds those territories they still make the same style of tea as it is still what most of the market expects and wants.

>> No.17149674

>>17148151
Holy hell shut the fuck up.

>> No.17149747

>>17148905
>To ask a question in particular, how has the seasoning built up and does it balance with the muting aspect of the clay?
My experience, using my new clay pot every day after it came in, the first 5 or so brews tasted noticeably muted and a bit bland. After that for another 5-10 brews the tea was somewhat muted but not in an unpleasant way. After that the clay seemed to stabilize where it maybe takes the harsh edge out of some teas or helps round them out but the effect is subtle or at least never leads to an overly bland or unpleasant tasting tea even when i use the pot with teas that don't really need to be rounded out any. This is with a zini clay pot which is supposed to be kind of in the middle when it comes to the muting effect of clays.
Overall its a fun thing to have around but collecting clay pots should really be seen as a separate hobby outside of drinking tea. Good info on vendors and buying clay in the pastebin. My pot is from essence of tea but i would suggest buying from Mud and Leaves to most people starting out.

>> No.17149810

>>17149384
>If it gets smoked it going to go from a green tea to become a black tea and not be a green tea anymore.
That doesn't sound right.

Green tea blackens by oxidization, not by being smoked.

>> No.17149820

>>17149664
>so all their colonial holdings that were made to grow tea tended to make strong tea for this use
I was under impression it is mostly by the fact those areas aren't able to produce good green tea due to climate?

>> No.17149873

>>17149820
>I was under impression it is mostly by the fact those areas aren't able to produce good green tea due to climate?
i kind of doubt that as good green tea is made in such a wide variety of places. i see it as being a problem of their tea production knowledge, their tea varietals, and their tea processing equipment being mostly focused on making (often cheap) black tea and there is not enough market pressure to change it. remember modern Indian tea culture is mostly a byproduct of colonialism, they do not have a significant history of producing green tea to draw upon.

>> No.17149893
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Hello frens what are you drinking today?

>> No.17149925

>>17149893
LOVE FOREVER PAPER TONG

>> No.17149951
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>>17149893
Cheap tea lumps

>> No.17149954

>>17149925
Love forever is a very interesting tea, good choice.

>> No.17150103

What's the greenest green tea?

>> No.17150113

>>17150103
Gyokuro

>> No.17150127

>>17150103
Probably Gyokuro. Matcha gets honorable mention.

>> No.17150142

>>17150103
longjing

>> No.17150183

>>17150127
To elaborate: I think Gyokuro is greener than, say, Long Jing, because it is made to grow in shade for few weeks before harvest. That way, plant produces more chlorofyl and as we all know, more chlorofyl => more green.

But honestly, the whole question is kind of retarded.

>> No.17150304

>>17149893
qing zuan

>> No.17150716

>>17150183
oh, he said greenest. i read greatest. yeah, probably gyokuro.

>> No.17150816

I want to try getting into tea. So I bought some black teabags and I've been drinking them for a few days. I like it but I wonder if I'm doing it properly.

So, I watched this video earlier today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-kx8JEDgnE

Is this the correct way of brewing tea with teabags?

>> No.17150918

>>17150816
Seems fine if a bit overly elaborate, just using freshly boiled water and steeping for about 3 minutes in fine, also don't squeeze the teabag, it will make your cup bitter

>> No.17151072

How long does it generally take for orders from Yunnan Sourcing to arrive in the EU? I'm tempted to buy but I don't drink as much tea when the weather becomes warmer.

>> No.17151101

Black tea and nanner bread for the afternoon. Comfy. Really don't want to go wagie right now.

>> No.17151142

>>17151072
My order from mid october arrived early december in sweden, so 45 days.

>> No.17151193

>>17151072
shipping to the uk, my august 10th surface(cheapest) shipping order came in last monday, my airmail(most expensive) shipping took ~2 weeks and came in a week before

>> No.17151224

>>17151101
Great combo
Love me some tea and a nice pastry

>> No.17151228

>>17151072
from a US perspective their estimates are fairly accurate if you assume the longer side of the range but if things get bad again stuff may be delayed significantly: https://yunnansourcing.com/pages/welcome-to-the-yunnan-sourcing-shipping-page
international DHL express is very fast and reliable (at least to the US) but costs a lot.

>> No.17151261

>>17150304
>qing zuan
it tasted simultaneously very buttery and very floral. a little sour but not bitter. the stuff is pressed super tight so i gave it a 45 minute rinse in a half way full gaiwan to let it open up before i gongfu-ed it. its probably meant to be tossed in a pot and simmered but it works fine gongfu style if you are patient.

>> No.17151333

one river tea is doing a giveaway of sorts if participate in their quick research survey. wish me luck.
https://old.reddit.com/r/teasales/comments/rjtrs3/one_river_tea_new_round_of_survey_raffle_1_in_10/

>> No.17151361

>>17149674
Put the puer down, fatty. It’s making you angry.

>> No.17151741

>>17151333
Ive never heard of that shop, have you ordered from them before?

>> No.17151755

>>17131329
Can you guys recommend the best teaware?
Price is not an issue.
I just don't want to repeat the same mistake of buying a teapot that's hard to clean and doesn't have a removable filter, etc.
I can't seem to find the perfect teapot that has a high volume, a removable filter, etc

>> No.17151907

>>17151741
>Ive never heard of that shop, have you ordered from them before?
no, i only know of them because they post sales regularly on Reddit. they are a newer outfit that seem to focus on "social justice" by promoting small farmers cooperatives and doing market research which i don't really care about but because of that they do carry some interesting stuff that's less common. they had a yellow tea sampler that looked fun but was far too expensive for me: https://onerivertea.com/collections/green-teas/products/take-the-yellow-pill-yellow-and-green-tea-blind-sample-box
i wish i had not missed their Enshi Yulu market research giveaway as its a tea i would like to try. its kind of unique in that its a steamed green tea from China.
https://onerivertea.com/collections/green-teas/products/enshi-yulu-sampler-survey

>> No.17151933

>>17151755
Best teaware for what? Western style brewing?
For more than one cup at a time, probably this guy, anything more expensive than this is just to get something more fancy/exclusive/etc
https://www.uptontea.com/teapots/upton-tea-imports-chatsford-teapot-20-ounce/p/V00514/
For a single cup at a time than probably a 2 cup brown betty
https://www.amazon.com/HIC-Harold-Import-Co-7702/dp/B000GLPPVC
That amazon listing is for the same pot as this one
https://cauldonceramics.com/collections/brown-betty/products/brown-betty-2-cup-teapot-in-rockingham-brown-by-cauldon-ceramics
For gongfu brewing or other more nice stuff you will have to tell me your exact use case and how much you want to brew at a time but for just making a regular cuppa or two with an easy to clean filter basket one of those teapots should be perfect both very heavy duty and robust.

>> No.17151939

>>17151933
*or other more niche stuff

>> No.17151957
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Finally reunited with the tetsubin I got years and years ago.
It was lost in the abyss of my parents attic for ages; visited them this weekend.

>> No.17151987

>>17151957
Nice, looks pretty beefy.
Is that an induction heater? Seems like a good combo with a tetsubin.

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>>17151933
This kind of thing. Although I might be overcomplicating this and injecting complexity where it doesn't need to be.
I want to make and enjoy quality Chinese tea but I don't really care about the entire process or aesthetic nature of it.

Right now I just have cheap bagged black breakfast tea and I don't regulate the temperature of my kettle's water so it's not really that good. I'm looking to correct these deficiencies. I prefer soft drinks to tea for some reason, but I've had really nice tea before, so I want to replace my soft drink habit with lots of nice and properly made tea. I just want something that can efficiently go through a lot of volume at one time. I drink upwards of 3 liters of liquids a day so it's in my best interest to make most of it water

>> No.17152016

>>17151987
>looks pretty beefy.
It definitely has some chunk. The interior is enameled so I don’t have to worry about rust or anything with the nambu iron.
>induction heater
Nah it’s just a glass-top kitchen scale

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>>17152014
Okay, it kind of depends on if you want to brew tea in a standard western style, like the picture you posted, or if you want to get into gongfu style brewing, ehich involves using a very small brewing vessel and doing a lot of short infusions.
Lots of regulars here do gongfu brewing, so you might use a 100ml teapot or gaiwan, and around 10grams of tea, but you would do 10 short brews in it, and end up drinking a litre of tea. There is some info about it in the pastebin, and you should be able to find good videos on YouTube about it.
For now what im going to recommend in a brew basket from the brand finum, you can get one for about $10 and it lets you western style brew looseleaf tea right in your mug. It is easy to clean, large, and you can even experiment with gongfu brewing without having to get any specialized teaware. It's also always handy to have around for brewing loose herbal teas.
I don't recommend spending money on a fancy teapot unless you know that's how you are always going to brew tea and in general we try to encourage people to spend money on tea instead of teaware. You can get fancy stuff later on when you know exactly what you want.

>> No.17152376

>>17148707
I've seen a worker at the Chinese supermarket brew bags of Folgers with bags of Chinese Lipton. I could see the tags sticking out of her cup, one reading Folgers and the other with Lipton's familiar logo.
I asked her about it, too, and she said it's not quite the same as what you'd get at a tea restaurant, but it does the job.
I have no idea what coffee or tea they use at tea restaurants for yuanyang.

>>17149173
Mixing tea and coffee together is very common, but you don't typically brew them in the same cup/pot. It's called yuanyang. It's milked with evaporated milk or sweetened and milked with condensed. If iced, some people use powdered coffee creamer.

>> No.17152408

>>17151907
Fuck off shill. You’re not welcome here.

>> No.17152488

love living in china and being able to get great tea from my local tea shops

>> No.17152493

>>17152488
Why would you willingly live in an insect colony?

>> No.17152658

>>17148707
Chamomile because the polyphenols neutralize the acidic taste of the coffee. It's like drinking coffee with milk, but the flavor just sort of disappears.

>> No.17152671

I have never found an herbal tea I liked that I could drink "in place" of normal tea on a given day, if I didn't feel like just more green tea.
I like raspberry leaf tea, though my girlfriend makes fun of me because it is normally for vaginal reproductive health. I like licorice tea but not in large amounts.
What is a kind of herbal tea with a flavor similar to, well, the tea leaf?
Alternatively, could I make a blend, myself?

>> No.17152819

>>17152671
Jersey tea supposedly tastes like tea. The Yanks drank it while they were boycotting UK tea.

>> No.17152860

>>17152671
I've got some raspberry leaf here. Its pretty good. I was looking through bulk spices and decided it looked close enough to brew lol. I like hisbiscus alot but its not "tea" at all.
>Alternatively, could I make a blend, myself?
Why not? Dandelion root, mints, chicory, rosemery, kola, ginkgo, rose, lemonbalm, lavender etc. I grew some ginger and my dad is going to drink all of it before I get a chance to resprout and plant.

>> No.17152870

>>17152860
I meant blends between regular tea and herbal, like raspberry leaf. I worry they may not mix well and am looking for people with experience. Pardon my English,

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>>17152870
There are a couple tea and herb blends that are popular in china, tea and dried osmanthus flowers is my favorite but i don't know how easy it is to get dried osmanthus outside of china.
Tea and dried Chrysanthemum flowers is also popular.
Pic is a compressed cake of black tea mixed with Chrysanthemum

>> No.17152933

>>17152907
This looks interesting.
I would like to try it out, though I don't know if flowers have "empty" health benefits much like "empty" calories.

>> No.17153048

>>17152860
The only way I ever drink "ginger tea" is 'susu telor madu jahe' or STMJ. It's basically Indonesian virgin egg nog, less the spices. The "name" (more like a shopping list, really) literally means milk egg honey ginger.

>>17152907
Why would osmanthus be difficult to get?

>> No.17153049

>>17151333
Cool find, thanks for posting. I participated as well, would be fun to sample and journal aboutsome new tea for the first time in a long time. Best of luck to us both.
>>17152488
Sounds like a lot of fun. Picked up aythint of note recently? Would you consider sharing some pictures? I wish we had such opportunities near where I live. I've tried to look for dedicated stores, but I found nothing shy of one horrendous value "for the gwailou" kind of shop. I think I might be able to find some straight leaf at stores that emphasize casual trendy tea experiences, though it's more of a gamble, and they're still not especially close.

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I recently moved to Japan and I'm in absolute despair at the utter lack of any kind of black tea in normal stores.
I'm also in the middle of absolute nowhere so it's not like I can just go out and find a tea store.

Time to buy online and overpay out the ass since the Japanese have this absurd idea that any kind of black tea is "classy" and has to be priced like a luxury good.

>> No.17153072

i'm making some kombucha right now!

it's almost ready for the second fermentation phase!

this batch is based in english breakfast but my next batch is going to be golden tips :)

>> No.17153073

>>17153058
It's one of those "one man's trash" sort of situations. I, too, live abroad. Here in America, truffles are, like, $50 each. Back home, they're around 8€.

>> No.17153086

>>17153058
Why not take the opportunity to go deep into greens and various regional specialties? I mean, I mostly drink white tea these days, and rarely consume any green tea, but I'd be taking the opportunity to sample as much as possible. Kukicha seems to be cheaper than many others, but I'd still like to give that a go someday.

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>>17153086
Unfortunately I strongly dislike green tea of any kind, somewhat dampening my excitement at this opportunity.
I was given some gyokuro as a souvenir once and I forced myself to drink it just because I knew how expensive it was, but hated the experience from start to finish.
As far as other local teas go, while I like oolong and mugicha, it's not like they benefit from getting a "quality" one that much (on top of being usually consumed cold), so I'm not eager to delve much deeper than my supermarket's selection there.

>> No.17153157

>>17149893
5g of 2020 Yunnan sourcing impression raw. Very thick liquor and pleasantly sweet taste, like vanilla pastries or sugar

>> No.17153226

>>17152870
>>17152907
>>17152933
I've got a brick of this they gave me for free on an order. I've only made a few cups but its pretty good. Very warming with a bit of earthy spice from the aging flowers. Great winter sipper. Might have to grandpa up a cup now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNsOJHp-hg0

>> No.17153237

>>17149490
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/best-selling-products/products/ninger-golden-honey-aroma-yunnan-black-tea

Its sold out right now but its pretty subtle, has hints of honey followed by more of a subtle peppery taste.

>> No.17153260

>>17152671
Herbal tea usually has no caffiene at all. Maybe that's what you like in tea?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wiENQMc9g8

>> No.17153359

Looking to set up my "coffee aroma oolong" experiment tonight before I delay it any further. Have a sealed plastic tub I've only stored paper-bagged coffee grounds in I'll be using, so it should trap aromas very well. Do you anons think the aroma will penetrate best if I keep the tea in a separate paper bag directly next to the others, or should I keep the coffee very loose against the tea? What if I use a plastic bag with an unzipped top for the tea next to the bags of coffee?

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>>17137920
red leather yellow leather

>> No.17153456

>>17148905
To give my own experience I have a "yin chun shui ping" dahongpao clay teapot from KTM which I use mainly for yancha. It definitely dampens the flavors but only slightly, more so in later steeps, I think it actually affects the mouthfeel more than anything. I tried some tea that was kinda dry and 'rough' in mouthfeel brewing it in porcelain, and the clay made it smoother. On the other hand with bitter dancong it didn't lessen the bitterness noticeably. I've used it for some months, enough that it looks seasoned and has a shine, but I haven't noticed it it's changed the effect much yet. I am glad though that the effect is only slight because I don't like the idea of masking a big part of a tea's flavor, which is why I chose this clay that's on the denser side. I'm quite happy with my purchase. I'm going to get a Chaozhou zhuni teapot too soon, I'm interested in seeing how that's different.

>> No.17153597

>>17153359
Decided to pour all the coffee into the tub, clean one of the bags of coffee remnants, and re-use it for the dong ding oolong. Placed the new bag of tea within the sea of dry grounds. Sealed in the plastic tub, should concentrate the scent and permeate well. Now we wait, anons. I'll try in one month or so, and then start more batches progressively.

>> No.17153671

>>17153597
What coffee and how did you grind it?

>> No.17153721

>>17153671
It's old pre-ground stuff (coarse) from a vape liquid company that someone gave me as a gift a fairly long while ago. The flavor is not really acceptable at this point due to being both ground and old, but the aroma is still pleasant. That's all that really matters in the end for this experiment, so I'm not bothered. It's not meant as a strict process, but more for testing how much I can intentionally transform a tea through concentration of aroma over a prolonged period of time, and more importantly, if it would be 'good'. I chose the dong ding oolong on purpose because I have a lot of it, and it's cheap Asian market bulk oolong, so it is the perfect pairing to the grounds.

>> No.17153864

>>17152671
A blend with herbs and tea.

>> No.17153916

I just mixed half black tea with half green tea. Lets see how this turns out.

>> No.17153922

>>17153916
Brewed for 4 minutes minutes western style at 195F. The Ceylon smells stronger than the green tea.

>> No.17153929

>>17153916
>>17153922
The aroma is improving as it cools. It has a nutty honey like smell, with the Ceylon aroma broadly.

>> No.17153942

>>17153916
>>17153922
>>17153929
Sipping it very hot, it has the taste of Ceylon. Aftertaste of ceylon and umami. Not really tasting the green tea except the umami in the after taste.

>> No.17153953

>>17153916
>>17153922
>>17153929
>>17153942
Drinking it at my preferred temperature now. The green tea taste is more prominent now, and as well as in the aftertaste. The Ceylon is still there. It doesn't mix well.

This was a waste of time, but it's palatable at least.

>> No.17154129

>>17152408
girl, you need to lay off the puerh. i was answering someones question and i only posted about them in the first place because they were giving out free stuff.

>> No.17154180

>>17144590
I wish I could drink more chamomile, but I think I might have an allergy or something to it, I get a headache whenever I drink or smell it

>> No.17154189

Can anyone else taste when there's stems in green tea?

>> No.17154247

>>17151907
Why is streamed green tea rare/unique from China? It's the standard method of tea production in Japan and I'm given to understand it's how the Chinese first made Green tea before they moved to frying/roasting it.
Why don't a significant amount of Chinese tea producers steam it like their Japanese counterparts? Sencha is very popular so it's weird to me that the Chinese don't have a common Sencha equivalent.

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>>17154247
>Why don't a significant amount of Chinese tea producers steam it like their Japanese counterparts?
i don't think there is any sort of definitive reason why, its just the way it is. almost all the traditional Chinese green teas have the kill-green done via frying in a hot wok.

>> No.17154321

>>17153456
>think it actually affects the mouthfeel more than anything. I tried some tea that was kinda dry and 'rough' in mouthfeel brewing it in porcelain, and the clay made it smoother.
Yeah this is a good way to describe it i think.

>> No.17154324

>>17153953
I wasn't really sure what to expect, thanks for posting about it.

>> No.17154357

>>17154247
The one steamed Chinese green I've tasted was remarkably good. It was one of the four fresh greens in the One River Tea spring box; I'll almost certainly grab one again next year if they're still doing it.

>> No.17154406
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starting the day off with iced mamri in homemade soymilk, very sweet, supremely creamy

>> No.17154408

Do we have any genuinely experienced Sencha drinkers around? I'm trying to determine the level of steaming of a few Senchas I purchased but my frame of reference is rather small and so I don't know how confident I am in my ability to determine that from a tasting session.
I've got one with a large amount of fine particulate matter and relatively fine/small leaves but it's not quite the level of a properly labeled Fukamushi I bought and the flavors seem a bit too bold, my initial impression is that it's a relatively deeply steamed Chumushi and not a true Fukamushi. But then I genuinely only have a single true Fukamushi as a frame of reference so it could very well be a Fukamushi that's simply not as deeply steamed as my other Fukamushi.
The other seems to be a relatively safe assumption of a Futsumushi/Asamushi.

>> No.17154419

>>17152376
thanks for the info, i'm gonna give a shot of espresso in milk tea a try

>> No.17154437

is everyone here asian

>> No.17154445

>>17154437
no

>> No.17154479

>>17154408
Im far from an expert but my understanding is that more more broken up the leaf is the deeper the steaming is.

>> No.17154618

Sweet basil boiled in water is pretty good. Like a mild mint, but with a slight astringent woodiness reminiscent of real tea. Very nice caffeine free drink.

>> No.17154762

>>17154445
then why does everyone here jerk off asian tea/tea customs so much

>> No.17154771

>>17154762
Same reason people who like whiskey tend to like whiskey from places that produce whiskey, I suppose.

>> No.17154811

>>17154762
where else are you going to get tea

>> No.17154887

>>17154762
I have yellow fever
as I type this post I am listening to a Japanese woman speak.

>> No.17154893

>>17154811
all over the world

>> No.17154902

>>17154762
CCP shills shillling their tea businesses

>> No.17154904

>>17154811
i mostly drink assam, so india

>> No.17154921

>>17154893
There aren't commercial quantities of tea grown anywhere in the world outside of asia.

>> No.17154928

>>17154437
I'm Anglo and we're famous for going to war for tea and spices.

>> No.17154941

>>17154921
there is Kenyan tea, they use it to cut Indian tea in teabags because its cheaper.

>> No.17154955

>>17154921
Wrong. Africa out produces India in tea. But, not India and China combined, and certainly not all of Asia. But, Africa is the second highest producing tea continent after Asia. Kenya produces the most tea in Africa.

Over the last decade there has been explosive growth in African production and exportation of tea. A lot of what you get in tea bags is sourced from Africa. The cheapest teas come from Africa and it's largely the big names like Lipton that are using African teas.

I've actually never tried any African teas, I'm sure some are good. Anybody can recommend actual African teas? I know about African tisanes like roobios and honeybush or whatever, but African black teas? I wonder. I'd like to try premium African tea. It's probably Assam-like or Ceylon-like, but I wonder if they have anything special.

Anybody here familiar with African tea?

>> No.17154971

>>17154437
Speaking of what race everyone is. I have a feeling a large portion of this general are women (females). So is everyone here a female?

>> No.17155036

>>17154971
I'm not and I'm friends with a couple of people who post here frequently, and none of us are women.

>> No.17155106

>>17153953
At least now you know. Experimentation is underrated and necessary for any serious tea drinker (or any other hobbyist for the mattter).

>> No.17155139

>>17154941
Kenya might be one of greatest tea producers, but their tea is really not great or interesting.
It's basically Assam 2. Nice to have in teabag, nice to have with milk/sugar/honey/spice, but certainly not experience qualitatively comparable to good chinese or japanese tea.

>>17154904
You might not have noticed, but India is part of Asia.

>> No.17155186

>>17154955
Jeeze i actually completely forgot about African teas, they have sort of supplanted indian teas in the low end bulk commodity tea market. Things like bagged black tea blends now frequently use african teas. There are also some south American plantations that have begun being established in the last decade or so.
I also haven't tried any of them, frow what i have seen their premium tea production is extremely limited and priced high enough that i would rather just buy other teas i am familiar with instead.

>> No.17155402
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Tao of Tea sencha is not sencha. It's not steamed. It seems like it's just thin clipped Chinese green tea.

Anybody else that's tried this that can verify? I don't know why they're selling this, when I like their oolongs.

>> No.17155418

>>17146823
What a little pussy.
Tries 1 single instance of a tea and immediately writes it off completely. There is an amazing variety of Lapsang Souchang, with variability tea material, smoking material, and how much it's smoked.
A heavy pine smoke is going to be significantly different than a lighter smoke of non-sap trees.

It's almost like having a bad version of something is going to be bad.

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>>17155402
Here's what it looks like. The liquor is just a clear, pale yellow like green tea. No cloudiness like what sencha has. The taste is stale, like a medium quality green tea that has expired.

It's not good. I feel ripped off.

>> No.17155555

>>17155436
Yeah that tea looks low quality. Maybe it's just really old? Older Japanese tea doesn't brew up with that bright green color anymore.

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>>17155436
Looks like mate. Christ.

>> No.17155608

>>17155555
Quints confirm that tea sucks

>> No.17155609

>>17155555
Sencha brews up yellow yellow to jade green. Chinese green tea is a clear yellow. This is a clear yellow. At first, I thought that it could be old but it's not cloudy and it's completely clear. With sencha when you brew it, it'll be cloudy.

The liquor not being jade green isn't the reason I'm saying it's not sencha.

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>aldi isn't selling these right now
>honey and mint
>not selling it in winter

REEEEEEE

>> No.17155630

>>17155609
Sencha brews up bright yellow to jade green, I mean. A lot of sencha doesn't have a green liquor anyhow.

>> No.17155699

>>17155436
I haven't had good experiences with that company myself, so I'm not especially surprised. Bearing that in mind, the color and size of the leaves don't look anything like the advertised image. Even the old bagged Maeda-En sencha I used to drink was a more saturated green, albeit of course with smaller leaf bits. Tao of Tea is a bit stale in my experience, but I've only had their 500 Mile Chai or whatever it's called.

>> No.17155703

>>17154904
Yum I just love my poowater blacks. For when old liu bao just isn't giving you the nightsoil aromas you'd hoped for.

>> No.17155714

>>17155436
>>17155402
>>17155699
I'm getting a slight fishy taste to it as well. I made a mistake calling it medium quality Chinese green tea. It's low quality Chinese green tea. Tao of Tea's Chinese green tea offerings are better than this shit.

It's very clear as well as no brothiness. It was never steamed. Don't buy Tao of Tea sencha. Some of their other teas aren't bad like their gunpowder green tea, as well as some of their oolongs are decent.

I'm disappointed it's definitely false advertising. I don't think I'll be buying from this company anymore even if I do like their gunpowder green tea.

>> No.17155746

>>17155714
Unfortunate, but at least now you're aware of this issue. Thanks for sharing your experience with the thread to warn others not to buy as well. Hope you still have some decent tea aside to sip with us, anon.

>> No.17155772

>>17155714
Wonder how it cold brews.

>> No.17155970
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Dumb newb question.

When I use these, the tea wants to float out of the top, even if I keep it down with a spoon. Am I supposed to tie these or something?...

>> No.17156159

>>17155970
Fold it over the edge of your mug so the tea can't escape from the top. Or stick a bamboo skewer or choptick through the top of the bag and use it to suspend the bag in the middle of the mug with the opening above the water level.

>> No.17156185

>>17155436
yeah that looks rough. did it just come in the cardboard tube, no foil bag? there is no way its going to be fresh then. if its a poor as it looks i would probably complain and get a refund.

>> No.17156217

>>17154762
Cause they make damn fine tea and doing it their way makes it taste better than stewing it like a gap toothed bong

>> No.17156586

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>>17156578
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