Coffee Time General – /ctg/

[Anonymous No.17095334]

Coffee Time General — The Holiday Cup Edition

>Even bad coffee is better than no coffee at all.

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[Anonymous No.17095428]

First for based v60schizo still mad that people pointed out he was retarded when he was trying to convince other anons that paper filtered coffee is muddy

[Anonymous No.17095439]

second for 9barista

[Anonymous No.17095482]

>>17095439
I find the 9barista to be a very interesting device, but at over $400 I'm genuinely curious what the primary motivator is for getting this over something like a gaggia classic. Is there something it does significantly better than decent entry level machines at around the same price point which can also do milk steaming and back to back shots, or is it more to do with not having space for a full machine?

Legitimately want to know what made it appeal to anyone here who has one, not trying to shit on it or anything.

[Anonymous No.17095772]

Buying a decent grinder was a game changer for my v60 coffee, if any of you still think about it, just buy it and save yourself the troubles

Pic related

[Anonymous No.17095932]

I just personally dislike the French press because it makes too thin and clean of a brew without very much body and it loses all of the coffee oils

[Anonymous No.17095960]

>>17095772
thanks for the recommendation, Chang
but I think I'll stick to an electric grinder

[Anonymous No.17095993]

>>17095932
>I just personally dislike the French press because it makes too thin and clean of a brew without very much body and it loses all of the coffee oils

[Anonymous No.17096028]

>>17095993
What's the matter? You don't trust the experts from my coffee experience class that made me a muddy V60 and a thin-bodied French press? You think that the experts messed up something as simple as a pourover or a French press? Not likely. Anyways it's just my opinion that the V60 is muddy and that the French press is thin-bodied so I don't get why you are so mad over a difference in opinion lmao

[Anonymous No.17096033]

>>17095772
I have the jxpro, but I think if I were buying a hand grinder again, I'd get something with more capacity, fewer static problems, and a better adjustment nob. I might give my hand grinder to someone after a few years and get something fancy like a commandante

[Anonymous No.17096066]

>V60 is a cargo cult meme device
>French press is a cargo cult meme device
>$130 French press
>Glass is better than steel
>Breville SGP Saga (Grind distribution isn't real, trust the experts, real data, etc.)
>Plastic is better than ceramic
>Kingrinders are 1zpresso factory seconds
>$46 STEEL BURRS
>V60 produces a "muddy" brew
>Coffee experience class
Did anything else funny happen recently that I forgot about? Someone should be cataloging the /ctg/ lore in a general pastebin or something.

[Anonymous No.17096070]

>>17096066
Oh yeah I already forgot
>120 g/L V60
from the last thread kek
And it was "coffee exploration class" not experience I double checked the old thread

[Anonymous No.17096079]

>>17096066
Here's my iced coffee recipe, I hope you guys make it and then tell me what you think:
Ingredients:
>Ground cafe du monde (or preferred coffee. Cheaper coffees require no cold brew hot bloom and can be directly cold brewed).
RATIO: ONE CUP COFFEE-4 CUPS WATER
>Star anise (~2 pods/1 teaspoon),
>Vanilla extract,
>Cloves (2-4 cloves to taste; you can always add more at the end but you can't take away!),
>Cinnamon (about 1/2 to 1 stick, or, 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon ground),
>Ginger (4 teaspoons),
>Nutmeg (1 teaspoon. Remember that nutmeg is sweet and you're adding sweetened milk, this recipe makes 4 servings!) to taste,
>1/4 cup coconut cream (NOT CREAM OF COCONUT, that is sweetened), 1/4 cup sweetened condensed milk (total, so 1/16 cup or 1 tablespoon per drink, of each),

Cold brew, hot bloom your coffee: pour about 1.5 cups of hot water over the grounds, shove your spices and vanilla in while it's still hot, allow to bloom for 30 seconds, then pour over the rest of your water. Let steep in the fridge or at room temp--covered, obviously--overnight. Let those flavors get to know eachother and mingle. You can add your 1/2 cup coconut cream and 1/2 cup S.C. milk now, or 1/16 cup each, per drink, when you are serving it. I prefer now.

Take that bitch out, filter it through a fine meshed sieve. Drink it.

[Anonymous No.17096092]

>>17096079
I genuinely repressed all memories of the cum yourself coffee because of how bad that whole event was. Looking at that shit makes me feel sick. He sperged for like 2 or 3 entire threads right? Plus a couple of other non-/ctg/ offshoot threads as well that didn't reach bump limit

[Anonymous No.17096100]

>>17095334
I drink kcups, or folgers from a $20 black & decker
fancy/bought coffee tastes like fucking ASS

EVERYWHERE has SHIT coffee because normies drink it with a gallon of milk so they burn the beans. Always. Starbucks, Mcdonalds, Scooters, diners, local coffe shops, coffeshops in malls, coffee shops in Europe. No I do not want an Americano you just diluted that foul acid crap into a cut of foul acid crap.

Why can nothing beat a fucking 20 dollar black and decker pot?

[Anonymous No.17096114]

>>17096079
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.17096125]

>>17096079
You seriously have to bring this garbage shit back up

[Anonymous No.17096128]

>>17096100
>fancy/bought coffee tastes like fucking ASS
>they burn the beans
you’re not buying ""fancy"" coffee if it’s dark roast you dimwit. nobody is paying top shelf for greens just to burn them to a crisp

[Anonymous No.17096130]

>>17096079
Sounds awful but I'd take it over a muddy v60 any day

[Anonymous No.17096135]

I'm interested in just brewing some coffee that isn't instant, should I just get a fucking AeroPress and a basic grinder and just skip all this V60 autism stuff? I watched a video of some dude doing multiple pours and it just seemed like the most faggy pretentious shit imaginable, like wine tasting for men.

[Anonymous No.17096149]

>>17096135
>should I just get a fucking AeroPress and a basic grinder
yeah
SHARP

[Anonymous No.17096150]

>>17096128
By "bought" I mean bought after they brew it. I've bought beans and brewed good dark coffee before. I believe black silk wasn't sharp.

You can make a dark roast but not make it sour. God. How many coffees do I have to drink in my life that are sour. I hate that shit.

I've started drinking "blondes" just because I know the roasters are retards and can't handle not burnng the motherfuckers for a "dark" taste

[Anonymous No.17096151]

>>17096135
>pouring water onto coffee cringe and faggy
>drinking xenoestrogen HRT brew made with a frisbee based and manly
You sound like you need a Breville SGP and a Fellow Clara French press

[Anonymous No.17096158]

>>17096135
aeropress is great if you’re brewing a cup at a time
moccamaster/equivalent quality drip coffee maker is good if you wanna skip the autism all together
having a grinder is more important than brew method for good coffee anyway

[Anonymous No.17096166]

>>17096135
It sounds like you aren't actually interested in coffee so maybe you should stick to drinking instant instead of wasting money on worthless crap. But it's your money to waste and not mine so do whatever you want, faggot.

[Anonymous No.17096167]

>>17096135
Aeropress and its proponents are way more autistic than anything to do with a V60 (except for the muddy V60 autist). There's different techniques for doing pourover sure but at the end of the day it's just pouring hot water over ground coffee, unless you fuck up massively or your ingredients are shit you'll get something drinkable.

Get whatever the fuck you want, french press, aeropress, V60, whatever. You could easily get all of them for next to nothing and just test them out to see which you like best or switch things up depending on your mood. People who make coffee a hobby are obviously going to get really fucking into the minutiae of the brewing process because that's the point of a hobby, ignore the retards who try to push their obsession onto other people, they're a vocal minority and nobody ever has or will love them.

[Anonymous No.17096169]

>>17096150
oh ok, yeah if you’re into dark roasts you’re generally going to find shit quality coffee
tried brewing at lower temp? tends to help round out the brew, especially shit dark roasts
you should probably find a specialty coffee seller and see if they have any good espressos (single bean/origin/estate whatever preferable) that aren’t blonde/scandi roasts. they exist but can be hard to find

[Anonymous No.17096179]

>>17095482
From someone considering a 9bar, space is obviously a concern, but I currently use a moka pot, so there's a presumption of familiarity I guess. I admire the engineering of the 9bar over the Gaggia Classic, certainly seems like you get a better build quality and presumably wouldn't have to worry about maintaining it to the same standard of any machine (just keep it clean/dry). I guess I feel it's a better entry level investment when considering my use case (no milk steaming, only I drink it); also I could be wrong, but in terms of cost, to get similar end results and quality of product, you either need to buy something similarly focused in use or spend a lot more.

[Anonymous No.17096209]

>>17096179
That's fair, I guess I don't know enough about the actual quality of what it produces and how it compares to what you get from other similarly priced machines. If you're getting something on par with much more expensive machines, I guess I could see it being a good value for someone who just wants plain espresso without spending a ton of money and taking up a lot of space.

[Anonymous No.17096223]

>>17096092
It's my fault for fucking with him lol. Also he was supposed to fix the recipe and post back by Thanksgiving.

[Anonymous No.17096226]

>>17096150
move to oslo ig we have good dark coffee (and coffee in general) everywhere. sucks to be a mutt

[Anonymous No.17096227]

>>17096223
Maybe he became an hero

[Anonymous No.17096236]

brew with a view

[Anonymous No.17096250]

>>17096236
Go brew the forbidden bean you coward

[Anonymous No.17096254]

>>17096236
How was it? Nice and muddy?

[Anonymous No.17096266]

My folks say their moccamaster stock carafe is difficult to pour evenly without spilling/leaking. Anybody else have issues with theirs?
I'm looking for a third-party or DIY substitute that roughly matches the shape and volume of the original but pours nicely to gift.

[Anonymous No.17096268]

>>17096236
enjoy your shitwater anon, should’ve opted for the far superior kalita wave instead

[Anonymous No.17096273]

>>17096254
muddy as fuck
just can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong

[Anonymous No.17096372]

>>17096266
You could probably get away with a 3d printed pour spout that clips onto the existing edge if you've got access to the necessary tools.

[Anonymous No.17096382]

>>17096250
fuckin kek

[Anonymous No.17096383]

>>17095439
Your crema are is dark in candlelight, good solution

[Anonymous No.17096389]

>>17096273
USE MOAR PAPERZZZ

[Anonymous No.17096396]

>>17096273
I got a bad steak once so now all steaks are charred and tough for me.

[Anonymous No.17096400]

>>17096179
Buy a lifetime supply of gaskets for your easy to matain gadget

[Anonymous No.17096407]

>>17096179
If you're only interested in straight espresso and want as much control as possible you've got the flair58 or robot in your price range. Spend a bit more and you could preorder an argos.

https://www.odysseyespresso.com/shop/argos-lever-espresso-machine

[Anonymous No.17096413]

>>17096135
The seethe over this post lmao. Remember to cry in concentric circles

[Anonymous No.17096437]

>Automatic kettle start boiling water at 7:55
>Bed alarm rings at 8:00
>Get up, fill mug and throw one of these bad boys in

Anything else is just pretentious bougie fag shit.

[Anonymous No.17096473]

>>17096437
Havs you tried just shoving it up your ass? Even simpler and you can do it while you're finishing your morning shit to save even more time.

[Anonymous No.17096475]

>>17096437
>fag shit
>french vanilla
Alright stacy. Mom's taking you to pick out some training bras this weekend, don't forget.

[Anonymous No.17096534]

>>17096473
>>17096475
>NOOO! Y-YOU HAVE TO USE THE SOUTH PERUVIAN BEENS THAT WERE SHAT BY AN E-ELEPHANT AND THEN FILTER THEM THROUGH A BEE CUM FILTER BY REVERSE OSMOSIS OTHERWISE IT'S NOT REAL COFFEARINO

Whatever you say buddy.

[Anonymous No.17096564]

>>17096534
Look man, I'm not the one guzzling scheduled sweet and creamy liquid every morning.

[Anonymous No.17096591]

>>17096135
You should choose the method based on how much concentration you like

[Anonymous No.17096596]

>>17096564
Of course not anon, you have to wake up 45 minutes early to prep the equipment.
Some of us don't have to work for it you know?

[Anonymous No.17096646]

I'm the guy who couldn't get tastes out of my v60. I upped the beans by 2g and it's definitely better. I ground even finer too.

[Anonymous No.17096675]

>>17096596
Why do you think boiling water and grinding beans take 45 minutes? What kind of salvation army appliances do you have poorfag?
>>17096646
Just keep pushing it little by little. I figured finer+5g would set you in the right direction. Glad you didn't double the recipe like the other retard told you to.

[Anonymous No.17096728]

>>17096236
There's an intelligentsia a block away from you
t. Used to work right there

[Anonymous No.17096736]

>>17096675
Sorry bro can't hear you over your 500$ coffee grinder doing it's morning screaming. Maybe we can go take a walk and pick up your special bamboo filters while we're at it.

[Anonymous No.17096794]

>>17096736
Yeah try 2k wagie. Let me know if you want me to photoshop some free nesquik coupons for you.
https://weberworkshops.com/products/key-grinder

[Anonymous No.17096815]

>>17096736
>>17096794
Kek, really enjoying watching you two try to one-up each others' autism, keep it up.

[Anonymous No.17096831]

>>17096675
It was weird too, people kept saying my coffee was awesome when it just tasted like slightly bitter water to me.

[Anonymous No.17096837]

>>17096033
I do agree with everything you said, but commandante is 3 times more expensive than this thing, and for the price it delivers

[Anonymous No.17096856]

>>17095960
Sure, I too sometimes enjoy the sound of the heavy duty drill in the morning. To each their own, as they say.

>>17096028
Taste is subjective, but I don't really think that pourover is that simple, or even french press as a matter of fact. There's a lot of variables that influence the taste of the brew in both of those methods

[Anonymous No.17096862]

>>17096831
Most people are used to stale preground automatic drip shit or burnt to fuck Starbucks espresso, give them a cup of something made with freshly ground well roasted beans and even if the brew itself is subpar it's still better than most anything they've ever had.

[Anonymous No.17096871]

>>17096831
Just shows you how many people are accustomed to shit coof.
>>17096815
He's coming into /steakgeneral/ singing the merits of microwave trash. Why would ANYONE bother lighting up the grill when you can just open a box?

[Anonymous No.17096875]

>>17096856
Do any of those variables allow for changing the material properties of the filters so that a paper filter somehow produces a brew with a lot of solids in it?

Only variables I could think of that would do that would be things like ripping a fucking hole in the filter like a retard

[Anonymous No.17096887]

>>17096875
There are papers of different densities that allow more of the stuff through, there's also metal mesh filters and whole world of weird reusable filters such as ceramic coffee filters.

But just changing your grind settings, your pouring technique or water temperature, at what temperature your drink your coffee, are going to impact your brew. That said, if you just like "thicker" coffee then there's no going around it and the rest might not be for you.

[Anonymous No.17096962]

>>17096887
Skin I don't know if you're missing the joke or legitimately dense, but people are taking the piss out of a retard from the last thread who went on an autistic tirade about how V60 as a brew method produces "muddy" coffee compared to other pourover methods, and anyone who disagreed was dumb because he did a one day coffee exploration class and they let him try all the brew methods so he knows his shit.

Not the papers.
Not the pouring technique.
The V60 cone somehow produces muddier coffee than other pourover cones.

[Anonymous No.17096980]

>>17096794
>Multiple thousands for a BRRRRRR Machine, beans, accessories and upkeep for wakey wakey juice

Tsk, tsk, tsk. My sweet summer child...
As they say, a fool and his money are easily parted.
You fell for yet another meme identity anon. Your the coffee version of an essential oil aunt.

[Anonymous No.17096988]

>>17096980
>Giving a shit how other people spend their own money

Y'all are both pretty pathetic desu, imagine having so little going on in your own life that it bothers you to know someone spent a lot on a kitchen appliance and you feel the need to act superior about having bad taste.

[Anonymous No.17096998]

>>17096980
If you channeled all this poorfag energy into something you might be able to afford better appliances. You get your sheets at kohl's too huh?
>upkeep
What?

[Anonymous No.17097000]

>>17096962
Yeah, I haven't seen the previous thread so I missed out on the joke, I appreciate you filling me in, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.17097039]

>>17096998
Oh anon, already resorting to accusation of poverty? How sad.
I had a friend in college like you, fell for an MLM scam and used the same tactics. Telling other that she could afford and benefit from this venture, and that everyone who mocked her was just a poorfag.

It took years and countless dollars before she finally snapped out of it and realized her foolishness.
Sunk cost fallacy is a horrible thing anon, I hope that one day you too can wake up from this nightmare and realize that you've spent thousands on a glorified bean juice paperweight.

[Anonymous No.17097046]

Coffee is almost ready guys! Do you want Jimmy Dean Croissantwichs or Jimmy Dean bacon egg and cheese biscuits? We might have a few eggos left over from dinner last night too.

[Anonymous No.17097050]

>>17097046
For me it's the fish setting

[Anonymous No.17097054]

I'm getting bored of coffee again

[Anonymous No.17097068]

>>17097054
Have you tried shoving it up your ass?

[Anonymous No.17097079]

>>17097039
I made about 75k off vemma in 2014. Its been steadily flipped since. Are your towels from walmart or ikeuchi?

[Anonymous No.17097087]

>>17097054
take a break
i was extremely bored of coffee to the point where all coffee tasted somewhere from dogshit to just "pretty good", even if i was at the best coffee shop in my city drinking some crazy anaerobic yirgacheffe from el salvador or whatever

3 months later of no coffee i had a cup of coffee from mcdonalds and the experience was damn near religious

[Anonymous No.17097088]

>>17097068
I've heard coffee enema are actually quite good for you. Since you suggested it you must have experience. Any tips?

[Anonymous No.17097102]

>>17095960
>electric grinder
What's a good one? OXO Brew?

[Anonymous No.17097103]

>>17097088
Funnel

[Anonymous No.17097112]

>>17097079
Damn, you're in the big leagues now, boyo

[Anonymous No.17097120]

>>17097079
>I m-made about 75k off vemma blah blah blah

Pretty unimpressive Anon.
Me and my team orchestrated the reddcoin bubble back in January, after we split 7 ways we made 4.25 millions each.
As for my towels they're a souvenir from a Gobi bear hunting trip in Mongolia thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.17097136]

>>17097102
Baratza if you want something really cheap that's still going to give okay results and can be easily serviced/repaired when it needs it. Eureka is good if you want something a bit higher quality and are willing to spend a bit more, still easily serviceable but with big upgrades to stuff like construction (all metal construction compared to baratza using a lot of plastic) and burrs (50mm flat burrs in their cheapest options compared to baratza using relatively small conical burrs). As we've learned recently, don't bother paying for more expensive Eureka models unless they have a specific feature you really must have within a specific burr size (all their 50mm burr models are functionally identical outside of superficial upgrades).

If you want to spend more than that a lot of options open up to you and you should probably do more research into what specifically you want to get out of it

[Anonymous No.17097139]

>>17097087
Yeah I'm just drinking it for the caffeine these days, I don't even think about the taste anymore. Might switch over to tea for a bit.

[Anonymous No.17097140]

>>17097112
Its all relative. People got pissed when I posted this back in July. Diversify your bonds nigga. Keep an eye out for concavefi. You should have at least 2k stashed back by not buying dumb grinders right?

[Anonymous No.17097211]

>>17097136
Which Baratza is best for espresso?

[Anonymous No.17097218]

>>17097211
Baratza SGP.

[Anonymous No.17097243]

>>17097211
Haven't used them specifically but people generally recommend at least one of their sette models for doing espresso and those start at around $300 at the least, though they do look kind of nice and apparently do pretty well with retention. I'd probably look at the Eureka options over baratza if you're interested in espresso since you'll need to spend more anyway so you might as well get something sturdier for your dollars.

[Anonymous No.17097249]

>>17096150
If your looking for not a not sour tasting cuppa there's kicking horse's kick ass coffee and it's pretty good imo

[Anonymous No.17097258]

>>17095772
I just bought a Timemore C2 which isn't high end dor anything. Just a step up from my $10 garbage.
I have a decent espresso machine with a grinder but it's too fine for most of the brewers I prefer using.

[Anonymous No.17097289]

>>17097258
I like that one. Grinds through 20g im under a minute.

[Anonymous No.17097309]

Finally got around to getting the process right for this thing. It's become one of my favourite brewers. Always so consistent.
Anyone else use a phin filter? I'd never seen one until I went to Vietnam a few years ago. So simple and relatively quick.

[Anonymous No.17097323]

Does anybody actually leave the hopper on the grinder full to the brim? Or am I being autistic by just grinding the exact amount of beans I need

[Anonymous No.17097331]

>>17097218

[Anonymous No.17097341]

>>17097323
Single dosing is the standard if you want your beans to stay fresh as long as possible, the hopper isn't alright so storing beans in it will cause them to stale faster. More manufacturers are starting to catch on to the trend and releasing models with small hoppers only meant for single doses ever since the niche zero got so popular.

[Anonymous No.17097343]

>>17097323
I do. But it's full of a 1kg bag of beans from ALDI. that were probably 6 months old before I even bought them.
I weigh and grind fresh beans each time I use them which is really only on weekends when I have time in the morning to drink a coffee slowly.

[Anonymous No.17097356]

>>17097341
>Hopper isn't airtight
Fucking hell.

But yeah some people do fill the hopper, but it's not really recommended unless you're actually going through everything in there pretty quickly like a cafe does

[Anonymous No.17097362]

>>17097356
It also helps with popcorning and I think theres some tism about large flat burrs and single dosing consistency.

[Anonymous No.17097382]

>>17097258
I was on the fence between Timemore C2 and 1zespresso q2, but decided to get q2 because it was said to be "sturdier". And well, it is all metal. But I don't think that going with either is wrong, honestly.

>>17097289
Ye, same deal with mine q2, I think it's faster at grinding than my electric grinder was

[Anonymous No.17097454]

How bad did i fuck up bros

[Anonymous No.17097481]

>>17097454
You're fine. Pid the gaggia when your warranty runs out. Think about the single dose hopper + bellows for the grinder. Easiest things you can do to make the gaggia better would be ims/vst/pullman/decent basket, better sized tamper, and maybe a distribution tool.

[Anonymous No.17097490]

>>17097481
I’m on the brink of buying an IMS competition basket for mine but I don’t know yet, I’m tempted by a bottomless portafilter… what would be better to get first?

[Anonymous No.17097497]

Alright coffee bros. I don’t know anything about coffee but I really enjoy it and espresso. Can someone recommend a machine or two to fake a look at that does two things:

-Can load up with whole or ground beans and has a storage tank so you don’t have to load it all the time

-Can make espresso and coffee

If you got a low mid and high end that would be cool

[Anonymous No.17097521]

>>17097497
I'm new to /ck/ so I don't know what everyone else thinks of it but for years I've recommended the Breville Barista Express for anyone wanting to spend less than $1000 or so.
It does what you're asking and does it pretty well.
There are better options, depending on your budget, but it depends on whether you want everything in one machine or if you have the bench space for a separate grinder. The only downside I hear people talk about is the 54mm filter (instead of 58mm) but if you're new to home espresso, I can't imagine that's something you'd notice or care about.

[Anonymous No.17097541]

>>17097490
I've got a decent 10g, a pullman 17-19, and the stock flair 58(v1 apparently made by the same vst factory). I use the pullman the most and that faggot sprometheus said it won his "showdown". Bought the decent just to have because its the smallest non tapered basket you can get. Bought the pullman because I bought all their other shit on sale and didn't feel like paying shipping from aus twice. Their shit is so high quality I wish I'd have bought a matching bottomless pf too. Keep in mind their prices are in aud so its like ~20% off what their site lists so if you're already 800 deep I'd just bite the bullet.

[Anonymous No.17097551]

My cheap amazon scale is finally going out. Any recommendations for a new one that isn't shit? And no, I don't need it to connect to my phone. Replaceable batteries would be nice. Mainly using it for pourover.

[Anonymous No.17097564]

>>17097521
Awesome thanks man. I’ll take a look at that one. And yea I don’t have much to compare to at this point pic related

[Anonymous No.17097608]

>>17096831
I say the same thing about bad tattoos

[Anonymous No.17097632]

>>17097490
>>17097541
Forgot the pic. I've also got a decent tea portafilter and its nice but the pullman stuff is nicer.

[Anonymous No.17097647]

>>17097481
>maybe a distribution tool

I made a wdt tool with acupuncture needles. ~$10 for the needles and the conundrum of finding a used bottle cork, but you can destroy all clumps and fix any distribution flaw, I'd be fucked without it.

[Anonymous No.17097695]

>>17097490
Before you buy a basket have a tamp picked out for it and make sure its tight but not so tight people have suction issues, they need to be sized appropriately.

I think both a good basket and a bottomless portafilter are useless without good distribution. I'm a fan of wdt with a homemade tool. If your distribution sucks the shot is going to channel and choke regardless of how perfect and invisible your basket is. If you can see how much your shot sucks with the bottomless portafilter you can't do anything to fix it without a tool either.

Other than that, the stock baskets in the gaggia are small and you might want an 18 or 20. Just know the higher the dose, the more coffee, but the coffee is good less often because more choking and channeling issues.

Bottomless portafilters also give you headspace for cups with a scale which vastly improves your experience and reduces frustration. But if you're making coffee for one the first thing I would do is unscrew the doubleshot splitter.

[Anonymous No.17097702]

>>17097521
whats the name of that grinder that's built into that again

[Anonymous No.17097712]

>>17097695
>But if you're making coffee for one the first thing I would do is unscrew the doubleshot splitter.

On the stock portafilter that is, once I could get my cups in the bottomless portafilter just felt like an expense I could put off.

[Anonymous No.17097786]

>>17097647
Yeah I just use a cork with a single sewing needle and feel around for clumping. I meant like a chisel or ocd. Maybe it does something, maybe it doesn't. I like having a level bed to tamp.
>>17097695
>they need to be sized appropriately
Thats why I just said fuck it and went with all the pullman stuff. Basket, funnel, distro, tamper all sized to each other.

[Anonymous No.17097792]

>>17095482
the quality of espresso is far superior to what you would get out of a machine costing less than 1500
t. 9barfag

[Anonymous No.17097830]

>>17097702
I have no idea

[Anonymous No.17097843]

>>17097792
That seems difficult to believe

[Anonymous No.17097873]

>>17097843
I can believe it. You sacrifice control for repeatability. Its like a superautomatic with an outside heat source. As long as you're dialed in e x a c t l y with your heat and water weight in it should perform great.

[Anonymous No.17097940]

>>17097541
>>17097632
>>17097695
I was considering pic related as the price is just about right and I thought it might give me more room for improvement, my current “stock” setup is alright but I want to go further into brewing a better espresso, considering the Gaggia classic does not have any sort of pressure, temperature or time control other than what it is set as… would it be more room for improvement or for error?

(I already have a perfect tamper for the Gaggia baskets)

[Anonymous No.17097949]

>>17095334
no, mcDonhal'g has the coffee best

[Anonymous No.17097975]

>>17097940
thats 807 crossed out S's and not 807 USD right?

[Anonymous No.17098000]

>>17097975
Yeah, it’s the 807 Bolivian peso version
Some manufacturers don’t ship to mexico for some reason, weird considering we have a culture that places coffee in basic needs

[Anonymous No.17098005]

>>17096150
>I've started drinking "blondes" just because I know the roasters are retards and can't handle not burnng the motherfuckers for a "dark" taste

Blonde espesso drinks and the blonde drip (when avail) is all I get from starbucks. I used to love dark roast, can't do it anymore

[Anonymous No.17098011]

>>17097940
>considering the Gaggia classic does not have any sort of pressure, temperature or time control other than what it is set as…

This is why I would suggest a refurb of the newer model or buy old and used if you're brave enough to fix problems that might come up later. Anyone can do the 9 or 6 bar opv mod, you just swap a spring in a tube and the only way to fuck it up is if you don't hold the plastic part with one hand, which won't happen if you watch a youtube video. It's basically a unforgivable sin a lot of espresso machines don't come 9 bar stock, and you void your warranty by fixing a design mistake.

Can you swap the spring out and put the original back if you need to claim your warranty? I don't know. I'd want to find out.

Other than that the PID, pressure gauge, and dimmer flow control mods are all cheap. Much more involved that the opv mod but still something a normal person who can pay close attention to a youtube video can do.

[Anonymous No.17098020]

>>17097940
Never used a gaggia or ims basket so I can't give you any opinion on the differences. All I can tell you is "better"/more controlled/more even flow="better" coffee imo. Doesn't matter if its pourover or espresso. If the gaggia basket is tapered any straight wall basket is probably going to be a clear upgrade. Pick a brand and you'll probably be happy enough to shill it. I bought my pullman before this video came out and I like the coffee I'm making.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgGWl7UmXZw

[Anonymous No.17098059]

>>17097940
All high end baskets should be good with minimal differences between brands, and they are pretty cheap considering they are taken to their ultimate quality. You can pay $20-$30 USD just know if your espresso sucks, it's not your basket.

I can't vouch for this video but this guy has bought a lot of shit. I'd rather hear what he has to say instead of buying all that shit myself even if I reach a different opinion. Take it in consideration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgGWl7UmXZw

What I do sweat over is size. Baskets need to be sized for the dose you're using, not too much or too little coffee in them.

Baskets also come in ridged or ridgeless. The ridge gives a groove for the ring in your portafilter to grip the basket tighter so it doesn't fall out when banging bucks out. Its also a reference line to see how level or high your coffee is. Some people claim it negatively affects the shot though. I don't have proof of that, but I know if you use a banger box or hit the rim of the basket on the garbage can instead of the portafilter itself the basket won't come out. And I like being able to remove the basket by hand instead of requiring a tool. And I can tell if my espresso is level without a ridge. And I use a scale instead of measuring coffee by eye. So TLDR I don't see the point of ridged baskets even people are merely superstitious about them.

[Anonymous No.17098146]

>>17097949
My blood was mcdonalds lattes for years. Started doing espresso at home and wanted to see what I was up against, so I ordered just espresso.

Let's just say they can't serve it in metal cups or it would eat right through it. The upside is it's not as bitter as starbucks.

I'm not above drinking it though. It shows that enough milk can make anything drinkable.

[Anonymous No.17098230]

>>17098011
Mine is the latest model I literally have no more than 3 moths with it, the PID is on my list of mods but I’m trying to get mods step by step to learn why I’m doing them, I could’ve gotten a very expensive machine but I want to not end a coffee twat
>>17098020
The ones it comes standard with are tapered and have a ridge, I’m pretty used to them, will the better flow help with crema and overall body of the coffee itself? I’ve found that Mexican coffee is very acidic and has tons of fruit notes but it lacks any body (it’s pretty much fruity dark chocolate)
>>17098059
>“If your espresso sucks is not your basket”
I want to know if my current coffee is shit and make it better, so far the “popular” coffee here has shown me the difference between effort and quality vs just a coffee shop that has everything lid out and just going trough the motions without care for that perfect quality on every shot

[Anonymous No.17098253]

>>17096407
Holy shit that's gorgeous.

[Anonymous No.17098316]

>>17097551
Alright thanks guys. I'm gonna get a timemore.
The other option would have been a decent simple.

[Anonymous No.17098427]

>>17096092
Yeah, it was like three threads where I had to avoid this general.

[Anonymous No.17098435]

>>17098230
If you have a coffee shop you like they will probably sell you the beans they use for espresso. It's a great way to know if your equipment and method is doing better

[Anonymous No.17098443]

>>17097054
>bored
legit same. i gave coffee up for like 6 months at the beginning of the year. just because. thinking about doing it again

[Anonymous No.17098526]

>watching a video on antique espresso machines for shits
>random 70s espresso machine captures the star wars aesthetic perfectly, yet disney artists can't

The more you know

[Anonymous No.17098550]

>>17096675
No, it's still too weak. But he's finding the correct path despite your weakling advice, albeit more slowly now. "Recipes" for coffee are inherently stupid and faggy. Empirical testing and pragmatism are the Way. I think that photo of his grounds looked too fine. I know they will taste bitter, but there is no accounting for taste.

[Anonymous No.17098625]

>>17098526
Also cafelat robots are nothing more than a chinese ripoff of the baby faemina.
550
too dumb to engage with

[Anonymous No.17098699]

>>17098435
Thanks that’s actually a good idea, I’ll do that and post my findings! Hopefully I’m not as retarded as I think and I’ll contribute to this general

[Anonymous No.17098800]

>>17097309
I used to, but I switched to V60 to make cleaning easier.

[Anonymous No.17098820]

>>17098800
How do you drink that mud?

[Anonymous No.17099080]

>>17098820
Whoa fuckstick what are you doing??? You're supposed to perch the v60 paper in your fucking cup so the bottom just touches the bottom inside, add your grounds, pour water in, and then sip from the top of the filter. Have you seriously suspended your filter paper from the fucking filter storage cone?

[Anonymous No.17099139]

>>17098059
>Baskets need to be sized for the dose you're using, not too much or too little coffee in them.

Got to thinking and I probably don't understand this enough to make a claim about headspace. Just disregard this

[Anonymous No.17099186]

>>17093060
I went significantly coarser today and it didn't help
There's something weird with the coffee it's like really dense, it's a light roast although probably closer to medium. The beans are super small and even though the bag says it's a week off roast it doesn't expand at all during the bloom. I'll post a pic of the beans next time I brew it.

[Anonymous No.17099201]

>>17099080
>perch the v60 paper
Clearly a cloth filter retord.

[Anonymous No.17099317]

>>17099186
What a horrid grinder you have. I can get less coffee dust with a blade grinder. I used one for over a decade in the before-times and this is sad, man.

[Anonymous No.17100048]

>>17099186
What grinder are you using?

[Anonymous No.17100533]

>>17098820
>>17099186
why do you assume we want to see this at all? is this some epic new /ck/ /ctg/ meme?
TROLOLO I POAST COFFEEGROUNDS THAF LOOK LIKE AN INFANT"S DIAPER LOLOL POOP IS FUNNY EPIC WINZ

[Anonymous No.17100554]

>>17100533
I mean I for one am legitimately curious to figure out how he fucked up so badly

[Anonymous No.17100590]

Anyone ever make their pourovers in a literal sock?
https://www.espressoparts.com/products/18-oz-coffee-tea-sock-pot-sock-included?variant=37553168253115

[Anonymous No.17100610]

>>17100590
I'd be interested to try cloth filtered coffee, but I don't want to deal with the maintenance required to keep one of those things clean, sounds like a pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.17100629]

>>17100610
Supposedly there's no need to pre-wet them, and they filter better.

[Anonymous No.17100675]

>>17099186
bro you're supposed to use coffee beans not pinto beans

[Anonymous No.17100748]

I have a lot of rust and salt in my tap water, and when I installed a RO system my light roast recipe started to become really acidic. If I go back to the tap water, the acidity is gone. Is my RO system reducing the alkalinity of my water?
https://www.baristahustle.com/blog/water-hardness/

[Anonymous No.17100799]

>>17100629
But you have to clean the grounds out of them and store them wet for future uses in a refrigerated environment, it's a lot fussier than just tossing out a spent filter and rinsing a new one every morning.

[Anonymous No.17100806]

>>17100799
Cleaning the grounds isn't a big deal and can't you just hit them with a hair dryer or something if you want to make sure they don't breed bacteria? You can also get more than one and just throw them in the laundry at the end of the week.

[Anonymous No.17100808]

>>17100748
RO water or any filtered water is sightly more acidic compared to regular tap water, because you remove minerals during filtration that would increase alkalinity.

[Anonymous No.17100827]

>>17100808
Good to know, thanks. Honestly, I think the purified water makes better medium roast coffee (better than the mineral water light roast), so I'm going to do that for awhile. Getting a mineralization phase is an option but I don't want to do it right now.

[Anonymous No.17100839]

>>17100806
I feel like I've heard that drying it out doesn't work well because if you use a hair dryer or something like you suggest you're going to end up cooking all the tiny bits of coffee left in there and you'll end up with your brews tasting like old burnt coffee, plus if I don't feel like cleaning a filter in the morning I definitely don't want to add another step of sitting there blow-drying my filter before I've had a chance to even drink my coffee. You don't want to throw them in the laundry because you don't want your coffee to taste like laundry, this should be obvious I would think.

Regardless, even if either of those suggestions would work it's still significantly more effort than "throw away a filter full of grounds" which to me just isn't worth it.

[Anonymous No.17100857]

>>17100839
It's not really a lot of effort honestly, cleaning a little cloth thingy is not hard. If it filters better like they say it does then it's worth a little bit of extra effort anyway. Then as a bonus you don't have to deal with paper wetting. I imagine they eventually get thread bare and need to be replaced, but they're probably cheaper than disposable papers in the long run too. I'd say it's worth trying.

[Anonymous No.17100898]

>>17100857
That's fine if you want to do it, but all of that is significantly more effort than literally just rinsing a paper before use, I honestly don't understand why you're pretending it isn't.

[Anonymous No.17100920]

>>17100898
It's still a negligible amount of effort. 10% more work than an already tiny amount of work is not really worth splitting hairs about.

[Anonymous No.17101034]

>>17100920
You forget about it once and it molds and it's a real fucking hassle. I'll keep paying 7c a paper for cafecs.

[Anonymous No.17101041]

>>17100920
Not that guy but having to not only clean out a piece of cloth but also dry it is like 4000% more work than literally dumping hot water on a piece of paper then discard that water.

[Anonymous No.17101043]

What kind of fucking retard would believe that a sock would somehow filter better than a paper filter anyways

[Anonymous No.17101056]

>>17101034
>>17101041
>>17101043
how many shekels do you get from those disposable filters?

[Anonymous No.17101063]

>>17101056
How about you back up this retarded nonsense you're spewing by providing any evidence at all that a sock somehow does a better job than a filter you dumb faggot

[Anonymous No.17101077]

>>17101063
>Ask if anyone has used the filters that >>>supposedly<<< >>17100629 work better.
>Now i need to provide evidence.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Can it, argument machine.

[Anonymous No.17101082]

>>17101077
"Supposedly work better according" to what or whom you dumb fucking faggot nigger

[Anonymous No.17101087]

>>17101082
I don't remember, it was on a product description somewhere, who gives a fuck, I was asking if someone else had tried it, niggerfaggot.

[Anonymous No.17101126]

>>17101056
>Noooo you can't spent $21 on 3x100 filters to compare you have to use a recycled sock

[Anonymous No.17101159]

>>17101126
>only $0.70 per filter and they are reusable for probably hundreds of times
Heh, nothin personnel.

[Anonymous No.17101187]

>>17101159
You can't even link the right filter. Those are for siphons moron.

[Anonymous No.17101189]

>>17101159
one and done, m8
you know how bad rancid oil smells & tastes? coffee is made out of oil a cloth filter would go manky after a day

[Anonymous No.17101209]

>>17101187
I bet those filters would last way longer than the chink ones too, probably at least 1000 uses per filter.
>>17101189
Oil takes months to years to go rank dude, you're supposed to clean them.

[Anonymous No.17101313]

Maybe the retard that was getting "muddy" V60 brews was using one of these gay faggot filter socks kek

[Anonymous No.17101325]

>>17101313
Impossible. He went to a class at Peet's. They don't just hire anyone you know.

[Anonymous No.17101569]

>>17095334
Daily reminder that all Aliexpress grinder enthusiasts are shills or were tricked by shills. I bought a Lido recently and it destroys my old C2 and 1zpresso out of the water

[Anonymous No.17101573]

>>17101569
Which Lido? Because the Lido 3 sucks shit

[Anonymous No.17101645]

>>17101573
Aliexpress posting is a psyop. My Lido 3 grinds extremely consistently and goes fine enough for espresso. I was able to dial very nice shots with it.

[Anonymous No.17101654]

>>17101645
Maybe it's more consistent at a finer grind setting but the Lido 3 that I have has dogshit consistency at a pourover setting

[Anonymous No.17101663]

>>17101654
No, I was comparing them at medium back to back. The C2 couldn't do espresso and the 1zpresso was just OK. Maybe your grinder is out of alignment.

[Anonymous No.17101676]

>>17101663
No, it's just a shit grinder and you're lying about it for some reason. Maybe you just don't know what a good grind consistency looks like or what a good espresso tastes like?

[Anonymous No.17101700]

>>17101676
Settle down. I'll post a picture of grind consistency later if you behave.

[Anonymous No.17101704]

>>17101700
And what if I don't? What are you going to do, spank me? That would be so horrible I would hate that so much haha

[Anonymous No.17101710]

>>17101704
I'll just stop replying even though it'll also hurt me... :(

[Anonymous No.17101813]

>>17101569
Lidos are probably the worst of the nonchink hand grinders. Them or aergeind. They were alright about a decade ago when the market wasn't so saturated with good budget choices.

[Anonymous No.17101824]

>>17101813
Yes, keep parroting what YouTubers and small time review sites tell you. They definitely don't have any incentive to sell the constantly-price-increasing Chinese grinders!

[Anonymous No.17101878]

>>17101824
I've got a 2019 Kinu and a key otw. My lido 2's shaft snapped clean in half and it was a bitch to get them to replace it. When they did I got italmill burrs instead of the etzinger ones it originally originally came with. Pissed me off so bad I sold it and quit making coof for a while. Ymmv, but they're coasting on their name from 2009. Miles behind in build quality to the $200 kinus.

[Anonymous No.17101895]

>>17101878
YMMV because you're bad at math
I don't have the time to give a serious response, but hoo boy, are you a retard ^^;

[Anonymous No.17101912]

>>17101824
Who is talking about chinkshit here? The Lido series has always been considered inferior to the other common handgrinder series like the Kinu and Commandante according to /ctg/, even before chinkshit like 1zpresso existed.

[Anonymous No.17101923]

Is pic related a meme or can it produce good espresso for my daily coffeine crave?

[Anonymous No.17101936]

>>17101912
Completely skewed assertion. Reread where the conversation started.

[Anonymous No.17101939]

>>17101923
It can't produce espresso, but it can make decent strong coffee if you use it right.

[Anonymous No.17101946]

*SIPS KCUP BREWED COFFEE*
*SIPS NESPRESSO*

[Anonymous No.17101954]

>>17101923
no moka pots do not make espresso despite having a vague crema. they make their own distinct (and imo shitty) coffee.
/ck/ loves moka pots because /ck/ is unironically the poorest board on 4chan, and moka pots are dirt cheap and somewhat hipster. if you want espresso, the shitty $150 espresso machine from costco or wherever will get you closer to espresso than a moka ever will. Or just plunk the $400 down for the gaggia classic or whatever they cost now

[Anonymous No.17101958]

>>17101936
>probably the worst of the nonchink hand grinders.
>nonchink hand grinders.
>nonchink
>They definitely don't have any incentive to sell the constantly-price-increasing Chinese grinders!

[Anonymous No.17101961]

>>17101936
You are the one falsely asserting that anyone opposing Lido garbage is a chinkshill when they are actually instead recommending the established non-chink brands that are significantly better than Lido at a similar price point

[Anonymous No.17102170]

>>17101961
It is an assertion that appears in every ctg, newfag

[Anonymous No.17102183]

>>17102170
That's a strawman. Nobody compared anything to chinkshit except you. And nobody unironically calls others newfags other than newfags themselves who are desperately trying to fit in.

[Anonymous No.17102190]

>>17102170
The last time lido was mentioned was 2 ctgs ago.
>>17059670
>I had to use my Lido 3 over Thanksgiving and was reminded of how fucking godawful that piece of shit is.

[Anonymous No.17102194]

>>17101958
Doop doop you may have had a point if you knew how to write doop doop
Also, the industry of burr grinders is very old. You are being sold inferior things and told they're better. That's why no one with a big name will comment on chi grinders.

[Anonymous No.17102225]

All of this talk about grinders being better than others is useless when there is no hard, factual, peer-reviewed DATA on any grinder other than the Breville SGP

[Anonymous No.17102237]

>>17102194
>Also, the industry of burr grinders is very old
Kinu has been making grinders for 25+ years. Mazzer is a precision metal fabricator from post world war 1. Comandante exists as a company because they saw the shit quality lido was getting away with selling.

[Anonymous No.17102501]

>>17102225
the only real information ITT

[Anonymous No.17102559]

>>17102194
>That's why no one with a big name will comment on chi grinders.
t. comments on youtube videos

[Anonymous No.17102628]

>>17101189
you're supposed to put them in the freezer and thaw them out or something

[Anonymous No.17102728]

>>17102628
you're shitting me
so then you get the sort of stale freezer burn flavor on your palate when you're drinking your coffee, that smell that's impossible to wash out of ice cube trays?

[Anonymous No.17103048]

Anyone have experience with DIY bellows?

I have something like pic related, trying to adapt it to the grinder that should not be named because let's just say the 3d printed chinese bellows that work well cost half the price of the grinder. Anyway even after clearing the grinder I can feel no air flow out the shoot. Just have the bellows piece, a pvc coupling, and the grinder right now. Do I just need to get everything air tight?

[Anonymous No.17103061]

>>17103048
you need to get a life you massive fucking autist

[Anonymous No.17103063]

>>17103048
https://youtu.be/g_i43frlTFg

[Anonymous No.17103093]

>>17103061
says the guy who thinks about me constantly yet I've never heard of him

[Anonymous No.17103104]

>>17103063
neat thanks

[Anonymous No.17103279]

>>17097454
what made you choose gaggia over silvia or other choices in the same category?

[Anonymous No.17103998]

>>17101923
Can make an awesome coffee but it's a little tedious to use and clean compared to other options.
I guess of all the options for small, strong coffees, it's a pretty good choice. I'd probably take a phin filter over it though. Just simpler.

[Anonymous No.17104494]

Got given drip coffee bags... gonna give it a go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP96VPVMpd8

[Anonymous No.17104500]

tfw stopped drinking coffee for 6 months now

feels good man

[Anonymous No.17104532]

>>17101923
I got the one with the weight. It's good for making tasty milk drinks. A bit of a pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.17104722]

>>17101923
i was gifted one. i don't like how it locks you into a particular ratio (you have to fill the water tank and the coffee basket to the limit or it won't work right) that's based on volumes.
i also don't like how you have to babysit it or it will produce extremely bitter coffee.
cleanup is actually very simple, i like it in that regard.
i tend not to use mine because i'm almost always disappointed in the coffee that it makes. i can't be arsed to "dial it in" and waste good coffee when i have a french press that will at least give ok coffee in a very wide array of ratios, grind sizes, etc.

[Anonymous No.17104762]

>>17104722
What kind of French press you have? Any idea if the Bialetti one is decent?

[Anonymous No.17104778]

>>17104762
i have a cheap glass one from ikea. they're all the same. you could get identical results by mixing coffee and water in a caraffe, letting it decant, and pour in a cup.

[Anonymous No.17104782]

>>17104778
Gotcha. I think I'll get it then. If I don't like the coffee it makes, at least I could also use it for tea. It's probably great for brewing chamomile petals before bed.

[Anonymous No.17104873]

>>17096236
What a shit view.

[Anonymous No.17104878]

What are the best beans I can order online!

[Anonymous No.17104957]

>>17104878
BRCC ships anywhere

[Anonymous No.17104980]

Does my coffee look under or over extracted?

The taste itself doesn’t tell me anything as it is a body less blend, just fruity acidic flavors and chocolatey hints

[Anonymous No.17105080]

>>17104980
>Does my coffee look under or over extracted?
>The taste itself doesn’t tell me anything

[Anonymous No.17105166]

>>17104980
What?

[Anonymous No.17105358]

>>17102728
Thats when you rinse it with bleach.

[Anonymous No.17105437]

For me it's alternating between some of the best and some of the shittiest coffee I can get

[Anonymous No.17105446]

>>17105437
it does help you put things in perspective

[Anonymous No.17105468]

>>17105358
mmm…chlorinated coffee

[Anonymous No.17105528]

>>17105468
After about 10 cups the rancid oil overpowers it.

[Anonymous No.17105538]

>>17096092
>>17096223
i do appreciate the fact that slayeranon updated the recipe

[Anonymous No.17105574]

My son in kindergarten had a Christmas thing at school where people brought in junk from home to sell (proceeds go to charity). I saw that he bought me one of those mugs that says "shhhhhh" then "okay now you can talk to me"

I cringed when I saw it and know that he'll probably want to see me drink out of it sometimes.

[Anonymous No.17105582]

>>17105574
it's not like you HAVE to bring it to work

[Anonymous No.17105583]

>>17105538
I'm still butthurt that noone made my cold brew hot bloom swissmiss Brazilian.

[Anonymous No.17105591]

>>17105582
I know but just having it in the house is bad enough.

[Anonymous No.17105593]

>>17105574
Nothing a hectic Christmas morning sweep off the counter won't fix. Then you two shop for nice coordinated father/son mugs.

[Anonymous No.17105732]

>>17105574
you could just accidentally drop it on the driveway

[Anonymous No.17105973]

>>17105574
Fill it with whiskey, by the time it's at the "now you can talk to me" you'll have no problem smashing it over your retarded son's head

[Anonymous No.17106004]

I'm not really liking this disparaging talk of that guy's son. Pretty uncool. Boys get shit on enough merely for existing now.

[Anonymous No.17106106]

>>17106004
Last birthday, she got you a new sweater
Put it on, give her a kiss, and tell her, do better

[Anonymous No.17106262]

>>17105973
LMAO

[Anonymous No.17106365]

>>17106004
Shut the fuck up kid, get your dad a better present or it'll be your fault when he goes out for cigarettes and never comes back.

[Anonymous No.17106428]

>>17095334
I forgot there was a whole general dedicated to coffee so I made my own thread, regardless, whats the best filter coffee grinder under £200?

[Anonymous No.17106443]

>>17105973
kek'd

>>17106004
I'm the father who posted and it's all in good fun. Of course I love him and appreciate that he knows I like coffee and was thinking about me. I can't expect him to know how much I hate that meme mug.

[Anonymous No.17106450]

>>17106428
Electric or manual?

[Anonymous No.17106453]

>>17106450
electric

[Anonymous No.17106459]

>>17106453
Very slightly above your price range, but Eureka Filtro is a really good value

[Anonymous No.17106471]

>>17106459
If you absolutely must stay under $200 exactly, baratza encore is probably your best bet but the Eureka is a big upgrade for the money and gives you a lot more options, especially if there's any chance you might want to mess with espresso down the road

[Anonymous No.17106494]

>>17106453
>>17106459
>>17106471
The 60mm meme burrcarriers are also an option now. Akira koki M520a at $140 and throw on some ssps later.

[Anonymous No.17106512]

>>17106004
Go back

[Anonymous No.17106519]

>>17106471
the price is flexible but in the region of £150-230 is best, is the eureka really able to do espresso? I thought for any grinders to be able to make espresso the price point jumps to £500 level
>>17106459
seems good at a glance but boy do I hate large hoppers
>>17106494
any real difference between 50mm and 60?

[Anonymous No.17106560]

>>17105574
Damn I feel bad that your kid.

[Anonymous No.17106573]

>>17105574
Damn I feel bad for your kid.

[Anonymous No.17106602]

>>17106519
The Filtro is functionally identical to their more expensive espresso-focused models, you just miss out on accessories which you can buy after the fact or make yourself. They repackage the same hardware with add-ons to jack the price up, the internals are all the same. Not a lot of people seem to know about this specifically right now because I guess the brand isn't that well known at least in the US, but every bit of info I have been able to find supports it.

Biggest drawback to the Filtro is it covered standard with a push button you have to hold add it grinds but you can replace that with a cheap $2 rocker switch with zero experience.

[Anonymous No.17106616]

>>17106519
The hopper isn't really all that big in person, but there's cheap single dose sized ones you can buy online from places like Etsy, a lot of people go that route. It's kind of a great candidate for upgrading and customizing over time.

[Anonymous No.17106662]

>>17106512
Been here 16 years, faggot. I've been sick of you and your shit for a long time. Eat shit and die.

[Anonymous No.17106686]

>>17106662
Newfag

[Anonymous No.17106724]

>>17106616
good to hear
>>17106602
alright thanks for the deatiled response, is there any chance of a boxing day/Christmas sale or not? the price is fine either way but saving a little extra is nice

[Anonymous No.17106742]

>>17106724
I wouldn't expect anything, the companies that make higher end grinders don't tend to do sales like that, the process tend to stay pretty static and they didn't have anything around black Friday, you could look up price history on places like Amazon to verify whether they have done it in the past but I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.17106745]

>>17106742
understood, thanks again

[Anonymous No.17107237]

>>17106519
>any real difference between 50mm and 60?
SSP doesn't make 50mm burrs so you're limited on your "upgradability" there. Throwing new burrs in a body is essentially creating a completely different grinder. I'd go with the mignons for their build quality. Ugly quiet italian tanks basically, and you'll have real warranty support. I'd imagine they hold their value relatively well too if you ever want to flip it.
>but saving a little extra is nice
Only way you're going to save a few bucks is to bundle with a machine but I wouldn't let saving 25 push you into dropping a few hundred extra unless you wanted to fuck with espresso anyway. You can always pick up a machine next christmas or check the used market.

[Anonymous No.17107245]

Would you buy a 400$ Ascaso Uno local? Coming from a Rok gc. The used market here is so incredibly grim that I'm considering driving 2 hours roundtrip just to get this.

[Anonymous No.17107273]

>>17107245
Probably. Buy it, use it for 6 months and resell it for $650.

[Anonymous No.17107306]

>>17107273
I've been holding out for a Silvia but this might have to be it. thanks anon, hope this dude gets back to me before tomorrow

[Anonymous No.17107446]

>>17095334
>Even bad coffee is better than no coffee at all.
with this in mind
my bitch brought home a used 1st gen keurig and really wants it working
i cleaned it thoroughly.. started it up. loud as fuck.
descales a whole reservoir fine. runs through a whole reservoir into hot water fine.
slap a k cup in it, set the knob to 10, hit brew... about half comes out, stops. any attempt to restart (open/close then brew button, even new kcup and brew button) just barfs a bit of water back into the reservoir. after trying 2-3 times, the knob stops updating the cup size indicator LEDs and everything just makes it barf back like 0.5oz water back into the reservoir
unplugged, let it sit for a while.. plugged back in, still only doing about 5oz before entering reservoir-barf-mode
is this thing retarded? i suspect it was damaged.. dropped maybe, maybe water spilled into the electronics. i'm about to open it up to see if i can spot anything.
or is this a known failure mode of these pod fuckers?

[Anonymous No.17107472]

>>17095439
didn't know about this thing, it looks great.
it would likely get most of its use on my stovetop, but since it's using external heat sources, it looks like it would be awesome to have camping
but ouch that fuckin price

[Anonymous No.17107494]

>>17107446
look mang, your not talking about a vintage faema from the 1960s with kitschy appeal and aesthetics here it's a goddamn keurig
just throw it out and buy a new one

[Anonymous No.17107530]

>>17107472
>it looks like it would be awesome to have camping
9barista on a vintage primus would be unfathomably based.

[Anonymous No.17107552]

>>17095439
>Made in the UK
into the trash it goes

[Anonymous No.17107555]

>>17107494
i mean, that's been my impulse too
but that would mean that the girl wasted everyone's time and some money so... i'm at least looking into it first.

[Anonymous No.17107580]

>>17107555
your on an IMAGE board here
if you open this fucking thing up and start tinkering around i know that i'm not gonna be the only fag whose a little curious to see what your doing, as a fellow fixit i admire your desire to repair something like this
but besides all that, how much money did this bitch actually waste on that first gen chunk of plastic? i'd imagine the going rate for broken used keurigs is maybe $5-10??

[Anonymous No.17107602]

>>17107580
>IMAGE board
>i'm not gonna be the only fag whose a little curious to see what your doing
fair... if i pop it open i'll post the nightmare within
>how much money
20 bucks plus some testing kcups lol. it's really no big deal, more annoyed by the principle of the situation. thrift stores...
>desire to repair
this is most of why i don't just go get a new one, i like fixing stuff.. but also she never really thought about getting one before seeing it and was really excited about slapping some kcups in the thing, so now i want a working keurig in the kitchen. and, fuck me, i guess i like to see her excited about something for a change

[Anonymous No.17107613]

>>17107602
your a good man, anon
i like your attitude

[Anonymous No.17107660]

>>17107602
Rip out the heating element, wire in an arduino and program it to irrigate your houseplants. Bound to be some keurigthrifter plantmom crossover.

[Anonymous No.17107673]

>>17107660
i actually like this as a backup plan, but i hate that i like it

[Anonymous No.17107711]

>>17107673
https://hackaday.com/2020/04/23/coffee-maker-gives-plants-an-automatic-drip/

Make her happy then buy the two of you something nicer to make coffee with.

[Anonymous No.17107763]

>>17107555
She did waste the time and money, don't get sunk cost fallacied by a fuckin Keurig man.

They said if you want to rip it apart and post the autopsy photos here I'm all for it.

[Anonymous No.17107767]

>>17107660
It'd be the most useful thing a Keurig has ever done

[Anonymous No.17107769]

>>17107763
>She did waste the time and money, don't get sunk cost fallacied by a fuckin Keurig man.
i know that, but if i can help it, i'm not going to force her to acknowledge that for something she was excited about
>I'm all for it
i plan to but don't know if i'll get to it soon. if there's a coffee general when i do, i'll post it there. otherwise it might end up on /diy/ which seems appropriate.

[Anonymous No.17107913]

>>17107769
>/ctg/ (rest of /ck/ is for fatties and alcholics)
>/diy/
>/out/
a real mans choice of boards, maybe /fit/ if they would fucking stop with the incel/lookism shit

[Anonymous No.17108484]

coof

[Anonymous No.17108954]

>>17108484
bripe

[Anonymous No.17109421]

Saw this atrocity being advertised on Facebook this morning. Imagine trying to get people to quit coffee in favor of dissolving powdered mushrooms in water and unironically calling it mudwater. Vegans are legitimately insane.

[Anonymous No.17109428]

>>17109421
first of all why would you admit to being on facebook you cum sniffing mongoloid?
second, if you wanted mud water just get a V60

[Anonymous No.17109480]

>>17109428
Because I don't give a fuck about the opinion of a bunch of autistic weeaboos with BBC fetishes.

You are right though, they're trying to take on the V60 industry and they won't win, V60 has the market cornered for muddy brown morning drinks.

[Anonymous No.17109482]

>>17109421
I use a lions mane tincture along with reishi for general mental sharpness and energy. I put it in my morning cuppa jo

[Anonymous No.17109494]

>>17109482
Then why do you still talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded

[Anonymous No.17109876]

I know it's a waste of money and the coffee they serve isn't even that great but I like my morning ritual of going to the coffee shop -- local and Starbucks. And maybe this is weird but I like having a clean new throw-away cup instead of carrying around my own from home.

[Anonymous No.17109891]

>>17109876
You are the quintessential zoomer consoomer

[Anonymous No.17110226]

>>17109876
It's really comfy, I like the smell and looking at all of the macbook people pretending to do work.

>>17109891
Every pozzed zoomer thing has it's roots in something the baby boomers ruined and set precedence for.

[Anonymous No.17110275]

>>17105538
looks like mud

[Anonymous No.17110299]

jailhouse coffee is probably one of the strangest marketting decisions ive ever seen, but they make a damn complex cup. not sure why they thought prison would be the perfect concept to sell coffee but alright

pic related. my fave roast

[Anonymous No.17110321]

>Oh you want coffee? Fuck you, I'm gonna whistle loudly instead and ruin all your beans.
Yep. Once I find a job I'm definitely getting a Flair

[Anonymous No.17110322]

Anyone buy one of those budget moka pots? Is it worth drinking shit coffee for a few months to buy a bialetti? Its pretty outside my budget rn with the holidays and all

[Anonymous No.17110337]

>>17110322
Got my 3 cup for $7.
The details are kinda ass on it but it works fine. Why wouldn't it? The moka pot is a century old device.
There are other takes on the concept too. Some are electric, some have a glass top. I've seen some with a pressure valve like the Brikka as well.

[Anonymous No.17110350]

>>17110322
I wouldn't bother with those, since the quality can be really bad. You wouldn't want to burn your hand every time you try to pour coffee, would you?
The taste though is probably not much different from a Bialetti.
I liked those cute made-in-Italy mokapots an anon posted in a previous thread.

[Anonymous No.17110351]

>>17110322
outside of your budget? they're mostly like $30-$40 here, is it more where you live?

i've used a budget moka pot before, now i have a bialetti. i used the budget moka pot so long ago that its hard to remember much of the specific differences, but it was pretty okay. it took a little longer to heat up and the material just in general didn't seem as nice.

for the most part, price point on types of coffee makers doesn't affect much about the flavor. its how long you want it to last, how fast it works, how easy cleaning will be, etc.

[Anonymous No.17110443]

>>17096236
fuck chimpcongo

[Anonymous No.17110507]

>>17109421
Alot of the vegans will use shit like chaga too. They generally dont harvest it properly (youre only supposed to harvest a bit at a time otherwise you kill the diseased tree and the fungi faster)

I forage for some mushrooms, havent found any lions mane tho. If I wanna rip off vegans more id sell dandelion root tho. They are usually organic by default since most herbicides kill them

[Anonymous No.17110572]

>>17109421

[Anonymous No.17110574]

its 3am and i cant sleep

[Anonymous No.17110581]

>>17110574
Perfect time for a cuppa and a /nightwalk/ if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.17110600]

>>17110572
something always made me wonder in that scene,
what kind of labratory keeps the stool sample right next to the coffee?

[Anonymous No.17110682]

>>17110600
b r i t i s h i n t e l l i g e n c e.

[Anonymous No.17110786]

>>17110682
>Bri'ish in'elli'ence

[Anonymous No.17110905]

What's a good grinder to get my mom for Christmas? I'd be willing to spend upwards of $300 for something if it was nice enough.
Her kitchen is has mostly stainless steel appliances although some are black and her kitchen aid mixer is red.

[Anonymous No.17110921]

>>17110905
Nobody gives a fuck what color her mixer is, what brew methods is she going to be using and what's her skill/interest level?

[Anonymous No.17111007]

>>17110921
She's got a little stovetop espresso machine and a french press, but I don't think she uses the press much at all.
I was just describing her kitchen so that maybe there's a good grinder that might look at home in her kitchen.

[Anonymous No.17111048]

>>17111007
>a little stovetop espresso machine
you mean one of these things?

[Anonymous No.17111064]

>>17110905
Two people here have recently bought eureka mignons and are real happy with em.
>>17106602

[Anonymous No.17111076]

>>17111064
I just don't know if that design is going to fit in with her kitchen. It looks very modern. It also looks a little tall how can I find out if it would fit under the cabinets?

[Anonymous No.17111098]

>>17111048
And yes it's alot like that. She usually uses cans of ground coffee but I thought she could make better espresso if she could grind whole bean herself.

[Anonymous No.17111146]

>>17111076
I'm one of the anons who bought it, it's just under 14 inches tall with the standard hopper it comes with

[Anonymous No.17111174]

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