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17065087 No.17065087 [Reply] [Original]

Anybody else just enjoy it after a while? Big ag’s empty carbs BTFO.

>> No.17065095

keto causes brainfog, hairloss, and water weight loss, in turn making you retarded
it also doesn't work
also it's a reddit diet

>> No.17065096

>>17065087
Keto is good if you're obese and want to melt off all the fat quickly. If you're an average size or want to get buff, it's not really the optimal diet.

>> No.17065102

Keto makes me feel so mentally sharp, I'm more productive which is great considering I spend 40 minutes a day shitting out greasy yellow slop

>> No.17065107

never felt more manic in my life

>> No.17065116

>>17065095
Those things happen regardless if you're on the keto diet or any normalfag diet. People in general are retarded too, whether keto or not. The real things that happen on keto are bad breath, lack of energy when you're starting out, also a huge craving for carbs. Most people do keto for a little bit and just end up binge eating carbs because they restricted their diet. I would say keto is good for very very fat people, athletes that need to reach a certain weight or models that need to lose excess fat for a photoshoot. If you're already healthy, there's really no need for any fad diet. Keto has its benefits because you're cutting down on a lot of potentially bad stuff so I don't agree with people hating it either. It depends on the individual and what goal they want to reach.

>> No.17065129

>>17065116
Ultra-processed refined carb/seed oil diets are the fad diets, dingdong.

>> No.17065145

>>17065096
>Keto is good if you're obese
this is wrong. its good if you are insulin resistant which can be at nearly any body weight and even happen in high performance athletes. most people are insulin resistant in the US now and many or most dont even know it and by the time they get a diabetes diagnoses the disease has been developing and doing damage for years or even decades

>> No.17065147

>>17065116
>athletes that need to reach a certain weight
Those things happen regardless if you're on a normie diet or any ketofag diet. Calories in = Calories out
>Keto has its benefits because you're cutting down on a lot of potentially bad stuff so I don't agree with people hating it either.
Cutting down on what nigger? Potentially bad stuff like chips and ice cream? Or you could not eat chips and ice cream instead of destroying your T levels by putting yourself into a suboptimal state and depriving your brain of enough energy to function at a regular level

>> No.17065155

This pic makes me want some salt-baked fish so badly right now. Wish there was a place nearby I could order it from for delivery.

>> No.17065156

>>17065095
>keto causes brainfog
absolutely false as multiple clinical trials have shown it improves cognitive function in those with alzheimers and i suspect similar in those with milder insulin resistance. the water weight loss is temporary and any "keto flu" symptoms are evanescent or can be avoided by replacing the sodium youve lost. either way your body will adjust and you will be healthier in the long run.

>> No.17065157

made me feel like shit

>> No.17065179
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>>17065156

>> No.17065294

>>17065129
Keto is a fad diet too.
>b-but it's been around since the 1920s1
Modern keto is different and modern produce, modern food processing is not the exact same as it was back in the 20s. Only really obese people should do keto. Or athletes that have a weigh-in deadline, or models that have upcoming shoots. Keto can be good but it's not something anyone should do long term. Even the biggest keto shills on youtube admit they don't stick with it, they go on and off.

>>17065147
Exactly. All the "bad" stuff about keto is shit that happens no matter if you're doing keto or not. Just eat good foods, any specific diet isn't gonna kill you unless you're a frail genetical weakling pussy. People get cancer, brainfog, hairloss, no matter if they're on keto or not.

>cutting down on what
Yes cutting down on those things is a good thing. I said its one benefit that keto has, is that it encourages fatties to cut back on potentially harmful stuff.

>muh T levels
Anyone who brings up t unprovoked is a manlet DYEL who has erectile dysfunction. No normal person obsesses over this stuff and brings it up in discussions about food. Our ancestors never had to measure their t and get their bloodwork done or be concerned about their eating habits lowering their levels. This is all just kike shit wanting you to buy certain supplements or keep buying their trash foods. If you're a healthy male you're gonna be fine, stop freaking out about the broscience you read about online.

>> No.17065328

>>17065294
>100,000 year human diet is a fad

>> No.17065349

>>17065328
the "modern" diet high in carbohydrate from cereals and grains is 10,000 years old which is not long enough for genetic adaptation. you can tell whether a skeleton is pre or post agriculture dependant on the quality of the bones. once people started to eat high percent diet of grains many aspects of health deteriorated and this is evidence in the human fossil records

>> No.17065357

>>17065294
>Keto can be good but it's not something anyone should do long term
why? there exists multiple clinical trials lasting years showing persistent benefit, if you stick to it. something that reverses diabetes in the first few years will kill you a few years later? seems unreasonable and not borne out by the data that do exist.

>> No.17065360

>>17065179
>I have nothing to add to the discussion
you are a waste of space

>> No.17065368

>>17065349
>evidence in the human fossil records
evident*
and as far as agriculture it may be as far back as ~15,000 years ago in the Fertile Crescent but this still doesnt negate the rest of the argument

>> No.17065384

>>17065349
Civilization was a mistake. We're overdue for a cataclysm. I beileve this is the longest period of time humanity has gone without one. Look how horrible things have become.

>> No.17065408

Keto did great for me, lost 80lbs in about 7 months. The main reason it works is you feel much more satiated on limited calories than you do outside ketosis. Otherwise I didn't notice it working better than CICO when I switched to that after I got tired of carb counting, but staying in my calorie limit was definitely harder.

>> No.17065425

I lean keto. Does that count?

>> No.17065440

>>17065425
Maybe kinda.

>> No.17065482

>>17065425
>lean
lean meat is a shit meme. have a nice ribeye or something

>> No.17065507

>>17065482
>lean
Who are you quoting?

>> No.17065526

>>17065507
WHOOOOSH

>> No.17065534

>>17065526
Ah so you're frustrated and just sageing the thread. Very typical.

>> No.17065535

>>17065349
Trying to base your diet on bone composition and guesses about what people ate 100k years ago is an insane stretch. We know that people can be extremely healthy on a carb-based diet, as literally every civilization in recorded human history had some variety of grain or starch as their staple food. For example, both the Ancient Roman gladiators and Spartans both ate barley as the basis of their diet. The physical fitness of the Spartans was so legendary that we still instantly associate the name with "badass warrior guys" thousands of years later.

Once you reach a point of physical fitness where you can be considered comparable to a Spartan or Roman gladiator (gladiators were even referred to as "hordearii ", "barley eaters") then you can look into fine-tuning your diet. But we both know you're not even fucking close and these legendary ancient specimens of physical fitness and athletic prowess ate the fuck out of carbs, so let's stop pretending you know better.

>> No.17065539

>>17065535
>the Ancient Roman gladiators and Spartans both ate barley as the basis of their diet
Nobody eats barley any more though.

The rest of what you typed can be discarded as uninformed nattering as well.

>> No.17065544

>>17065535
>Trying to base your diet on bone composition and guesses about what people ate 100k years ago is an insane stretch.
you say this and then proceed to make this exact type of argument but just much less compelling. and yeah maybe people in 1800 'could' be healthy on carb based diets. but an obese or diabetic person in 21st century is going to fare best on a carb restricted, especially sugar restricted diet

>> No.17065547

>>17065425
Get out jack

>> No.17065560

>>17065535
>both the Ancient Roman gladiators and Spartans both ate barley as the basis of their diet.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0110489
they werent vegetarian they ate significant meat and fish. they surely ate some barley and wheat but saying it was most of their diet is a stretch and contrary to the evidence

>> No.17065572

>>17065560
also it would be an advantage to have a significant layer of fat on you as a gladiator to protect your organs which may be why the grains were 'useful' but not necessarily promoting of good long term health

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>>17065087
Just eat less bread. You don't need to completely cut out bread from your life.

>> No.17065599

>>17065590
respectable and wouldve been sufficient 50 or 100 years ago. now the average person is diabetic in the great USA at least and this isnt such great advice. maybe there are some whole grains breads that have glyciemic loads comparable to leafy vegetables when eaten in small portion. i dont know of any however they may exist

>> No.17065637

>>17065539
>Nobody eats barley
Barley is the fourth most produced grain worldwide, behind wheat, rice, and corn.
>The rest of what you typed can be discarded as uninformed nattering as well.
That sounds a lot like "I don't have a rebuttal so I'm going to ignore it". Let me put it more simply for you: literally every single empire in recorded human history ate carbs. If a non-carb diet is so obviously superior, why don't we have a single historical example? Why do you have to go searching for weird fuckers living in extreme climates (eskimos, for example) to find anything even approaching a natural keto diet?

>>17065560
I never claimed they were vegetarian and I would never recommend anyone be vegetarian. Taking the previous example, Spartans ate barley, fish and cheese, fruit, and a soup made from blood and organ meat, which is pretty close to what I'd consider the ideal human diet: starches, organ meats, assorted fruits and vegetables. I'd love to include fish but unfortunately fish isn't the incredibly healthy food it once was, thanks to how fucking polluted our oceans have become.

>>17065544
>an obese or diabetic person in 21st century is going to fare best on a carb restricted, especially sugar restricted diet
Look up Walter Kempner. We've known since the 1950s that you can put diabetics on a diet that is literally 95% carbs - white rice, fruit juice, and table sugar - and straight up cure their diabetes.

The problem with all these meme diets, be they keto or vegan or paleo, is that they have this huge blind spot regarding what is actually causing the benefits of the diet: the removal of processed foods. Feeling better on a keto diet has nothing to do with "carbs" and everything to do with the removal of vegetable oils and highly refined sugars from your diet. Luckily for those of us with a brain, it's possible to stop eating garbage without doing dumb shit like claiming that "carbs are poison", a position with not a single shred of historical evidence.

>> No.17065639

>>17065637
>Barley is the fourth most produced grain worldwide, behind wheat, rice, and corn.
is that all barley grown? how much of it is for food and how much for whisky?

>> No.17065645

>>17065637
>If a non-carb diet is so obviously superior, why don't we have a single historical example?
empires need population and relaxed subjects, high calories food thats easy the grow fills that role. empires do well on grains but why are empires something to aspire to anyway?

>> No.17065656

Grain merchant consortium thread.

>> No.17065671

>>17065637
>We've known since the 1950s that you can put diabetics on a diet that is literally 95% carbs - white rice, fruit juice, and table sugar - and straight up cure their diabetes.
you mean burn out their pancreas

>> No.17065676

>>17065639
>how much of it is for food and how much for whisky?
No fucking clue. It's just a cultural thing, barely is more popular as a food in the middle east, eastern europe, and africa.

>>17065645
I'm not talking about "we have a big population" empires, I'm talking about "we genocided our neighbors" empires. Ancient Rome fed its soldiers wheat and barley. You really think that we wouldn't have even a single example of a keto empire if it was really so superior? Where's the great empire with superior warriors who never ate carbs?

>> No.17065678

>>17065656
I post these from time to time to check up on our shills and their scripted replies. There's a startling lack of creativity and innovation on their part.

>> No.17065682

>>17065676
>Where's the great empire with superior warriors who never ate carbs?
mongols?

>> No.17065687

>>17065102
kekked
/thread

>> No.17065688

>>17065671
Kempner's diet has been continually researched since he first started prescribing it in the '50s; we have very in depth studies of multiple generations of people living the majority of their lives eating it, and the pancreas does just fine. Let's be honest here, you don't know what you're talking about so stop while you're ahead.

>> No.17065706

>>17065682
In Britain the elite soldiers got extra beef rations because it was effective in making them stronger. This tradition survives with the Beefeaters of today.

>> No.17065707

>>17065682
The traditional Mongol diet was mostly meat, sure - it's hard for nomads to grow crops. But they drank a shitton of alcohol in the form of fermented milk which, spoiler alert, provides a healthy serving of carbs. Rice wine was also reportedly popular. And they happily added grains to their diets as their empire expanded into areas where the native population ate lots of grain. It's a good example of my point, though: if grains were so terrible, surely the Mongols would have noticed a decline in their fitness when they started eating grains from the societies they conquered? They didn't seem to notice anything.

>> No.17065719

>>17065706
See, here's a retarded response from a retard. Can you make the distinction between these two statements?
>carbs are bad
>meat is good
Meat being good for you does not mean that carbs are bad for you. No shit, you need protein to build muscle and the most bioavailable protein source is from animals. That doesn't mean that you should eat nothing but beef.

>> No.17065727

>>17065719
But carbs ARE bad for you, this has been proved with animal research and ongoing studies. They're cheap food for low-IQ laborers.

>> No.17065734

>>17065688
show me a single clinical trial where high carb diet reverses diabetes. you cant. the only exception i could see here being a starvation diet that happens to be high carb. this will also be an easy path to nutritional deficiency

>> No.17065774

ketoschizo hairloss thread

>> No.17065792

>>17065774
vegan shill or useful idiot?

>> No.17065801

>>17065792
vegan shills coping with their own hair loss

same shill made another comment or two along the same lines upthread

>> No.17065807

>>17065727
>But carbs ARE bad for you
eating more carbs than you can tolerate is bad for you and certain carbs, the refined grains and sugars may be bad independently of that but if everybody knew how carb tolerant they were people could individualize their carb intake level
>>17065801
give the hundreds of clinical trials and thousands or tens of thousands of doctors using carbohydrate restricted diets you could safely assume if it did reliably produce hairloss you could find it somewhere in the literature? to date ive never seen a source on any of this propaganda crap like keto crotch, keto hair loss, or keto breath or whatever stupid shit Unilever thinks will get people to eat more motor oil

>> No.17065815

>>17065807
>if everybody knew how carb tolerant they were people could individualize their carb intake level
but we dont because insulin levels rarely if ever get tested for reasons i cant fathom

>> No.17066010

>>17065095
4chan causes brainfog, hairloss, and water weight loss, in turn making you retarded
it also doesn't work
also it's reddit

>> No.17066051

bump

>> No.17066162

how do I go keto? are pies keto?

>> No.17066188

>>17065087
Are those pink salmon? Are you gonna bbq those, OP? Did you buy them or catch them?

>> No.17066195

>>17066162
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto

if you were gonna have broccoli, rice, and lean chicken breasts for dinner instead you could have some chicken thighs and broccoli with some butter or olive oil instead. and no pies are not keto.
p.s. if on blood pressure or blood sugar meds you may have to reduce the dose or stop altogether in which case the aide of a physician can be helpful.

>> No.17066239

>>17066195
no pies no interest simple as

>> No.17066244

>>17066239
you could do a keto friendly pie with almond or coconut flour and some artificial sweetener but its not something you would be eating regularly on this type of diet. after a while you will lose the craving for very sweet and carb rich foods but you wont ever know that unless you try this out for at least a few weeks

>> No.17066250

>>17065087
nah, glycogen is too useful

>> No.17066251

>>17066250
and where do you think people who dont eat glucose get their glycogen from?

>> No.17066256

>>17065145
true, but you and I arent one of those retards, right?

>>17066251
whatever process it is doesnt necessarily produce optimal amounts, despite being able to survive on it

>> No.17066259

>>17066256
and i bet you think carb loading is good for exercise lol

>> No.17066264

>>17066244
what do I ask for at McDonald's for a keto meal

>> No.17066268

>>17066259
a small bowl of oats before a workout 100% affects a workout positively, yes

>> No.17066272

>>17066264
quarter pounder with cheese and just throw away the bun
>>17066268
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12566193_Carbohydrate_loading_failed_to_improve_100-km_cycling_performance_in_a_placebo-controlled_trial
the first placebo controlled trial on the subject suggests otherwise. carb loading may only be useful if you are otherwise eating a low carb diet

>> No.17066281

>>17066272
>quarter pounder with cheese and just throw away the bun
actually maybe skip the cheese cause you might not be able to get the bun off the melted cheese product. better would be going to Costco and getting bulk deenz eggs and ground beef and salmon

>> No.17066294

>>17066268
>>17066259
and you can see it in the pre-show regimen of bodybuilders to how it works.
>keto 2 weeks
>work out, especially high volume
>deplete your glycogen
>eat a bunch of carbs the day before a show
>your muscles absorb all those carbs(now glycogen) and draw in water because they are absolutely starved of it
>you look bigger than you would otherwise despite muscle mass not changing significantly over the two weeks
keto does not provide optimal carbohydrates for working out or manual labor

>>17066272
>otherwise eating a low carb diet
such as keto
I dont disagree that low carb is generally good, and that most people overconsume carbs, but keto is not balanced, and I choose a more balanced approach to consuming a low to moderate amount of carbs over keto and carboloading

>> No.17066306

>>17066272
sauce is ok?

>> No.17066308

>>17066294
The things bodybuilders do to change how they look is so wild. bless them for being the test subjects. I would never

>> No.17066309

>>17066294
additionally, you should look at the relationship between HGH and insulin. they're antagonistic, meaning high insulin(a response to moderate to high carbs) lowers HGH. so generally low carbs would be good, right? except that at least one insulin spike during the day causes a higher level of HGH secretion at night

basically, moderate, balanced diets generally produce the best results, and have the highest diversity of nutrients. keto falls on an extreme end of the diet spectrum, and imo puts it into the "avoid" category

>> No.17066312

>>17066294
have heard it before and its interesting but important to remember even very lean athletes can be insulin resistant and do damage from large boluses of carbohydrate and sugar.
>keto does not provide optimal carbohydrates for working out or manual labor
except performance improves on carbohydrate restricted diets once subjects are fat adapted. muscle glycogen is also probably not the performance limiter but im not so clear on this. better to read Jeff Voleks book on athletic performance

>> No.17066317

>>17066306
depends on whats in it really. just try to avoid the low fat stuff that gets pumped with added sugars. long term you should try to get used to using olive oil, butter, or your preferred natural fat source instead of sauces made from processed cr*p

>> No.17066329

>>17066309
i meant to quote you as well >>17066259
>>17066251

>>17066312
>muscle glycogen is also probably not the performance limiter
glycogen is just carbs that are absolutely immediately available to the muscle, as thats where its stored. >>17066272 seems to show that carb intake improves performance in low-carb diets(let alone practically zero-carb keto). if keto produces low glycogen in bodybuilders(or even I have done that method in high school and achieved the same though significantly less impressive results) that then is overcompensated on resumption of carb intake, then the diet isnt producing the level of glycogen that your body wants at that activity level. you can carbo-load to offset it, but then I dont know if you can really call it keto

I have read that low carb can increase performance, but I'm not sure what its compared to. the average american diet? if so, thats a garbage metric

>> No.17066332

>>17066317
?? there are specific sauces on a qp bro. do you even know the McDonald's menu?

>> No.17066335

>>17066332
i dont i havent eaten fast food in decades sorry

>> No.17066351

>>17066329
>"The low RQ and the fact that blood glucose and muscle glycogen were maintained during exhausting exercise after 6 wk of a PSF suggest that prolonged ketosis results in an adaptation, after which lipid becomes the major metabolic fuel, and net carbohydrate utilization is markedly reduced during moderate but ultimately exhausting exercise."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC371554/

could cite consistent results from higher performance athletes from the same author but itd be better if you read the book he wrote with his collaborator about sports performance. you could try it for yourself and see if your exercise capacity improves. i suspect it will but if you are already healthy and insulin sensitive maybe it wont have an effect.

>>17066332
they are probably mostly sugar and should be avoided

>> No.17066358

>>17065087
If keto worked well for you, try carnivore. It's even better.

Ignore all the seethe posts. That is vegans.

>> No.17066366

>>17066351
>if you are already healthy and insulin sensitive maybe it wont have an effect
thats a good point I havent heard. I imagine that could affect results pretty significantly. I could see keto beign very useful if you test your fasted insulin levels and use keto to bring yourself down to baseline strategically while resuming a low to moderate carb intake outside of that

but the people who really do direly need keto I think are the ones who would never touch it

>> No.17066387

If keto works for you, then more power to you. Personally, I feel such a massive difference in exercising when I have eaten carbs. If eating carbs is making you fat... it's not the carbs.

>> No.17066389

>>17066358
eggs fish and meat are all you need. refined grains, sugars, and seed oils are all you need to get sick. personally i havent been able to sustain carnivore for more than a few weeks not because i dont feel great, i may even feel a notch better than when i do regular keto, i just like cheese too much.
>>17066366
unfortunately insulin levels are rarely tested. if we tested fasting insulin and perhaps even more importantly if we tested insulin response to glucose tolerance tests we would a more accurate, unfortunately much higher, prevalence of diabetes and insulin resistance

>> No.17066405

>>17066387
it takes at least a few weeks to adapt and maybe months for close to peak vo2max performance to return to baseline and potentially improve. you may be able to improve your exercise on low carb but just doing it half assed for a few days wont do it.

>> No.17066414

>>17066405
I've been fat adapted and well into ketosis before. The difference in performance when eating carbs is night and day. Athletes eat carbs for a reason.

>> No.17066418

>>17066239
Simple as what?

>> No.17066428

Keto constipation

>> No.17066437

>>17066428
just eat some salt lmoa

>> No.17066442 [DELETED] 

>>17066414
whatever the reason its not for performance

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>>17066387
It's impossible to be fat without carbs.

However it's very easy to exercise without carbs.

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>>17066414
perhaps you are an outlier but theres significant data that low carb has some benefit once fat adapted with adequate electrolyte replacement. these researchers wrote a book on the topic which i found quite useful and would recommend if youd like to give another try. you could get a copy for like $5 or just get it on libgen

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29108901/
>Compared to a HC comparison group, a 12-week period of keto-adaptation and exercise training, enhanced body composition, fat oxidation during exercise, and specific measures of performance relevant to competitive endurance athletes.

>> No.17066473

>>17066466
>electrolyte replacement.
*supplementation more accurate
>>17066464
what a beast

>> No.17066695

>>17066428
Low to no fiber is the cure for tgat

>> No.17066701

I like bread

>> No.17067009

>>17065087
the only good thing about keto is fish
just eat more fish you retards it's fucking great goddamn i fucking eat so much fish
fuck you can even pair fish with carbs and it won't leave you feeling like shit
just slap that meat between some bread with some mustard and cold cheese and maybe some onions it's fucking lunch

>> No.17067207

>>17066188
that pic's from earlier in the fall, it's local trout and apparently they get pink like that from eating loads of crayfish around here

>> No.17067895

>>17065087
I tried it and after giving it the full 6 weeks for my body to adapt, I could still lift only about 90% the weight I could before. It was also inconvenient and expensive. I didn't notice any other change. I started eating carbs again and my strength returned.

>> No.17067900

>>17065095
What do you mean by "doesn't work"?

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>>17067009
Everything about keto is good. The only downside is not eating sugar and starch, because sugar and starch are like drugs that are fun to eat even when you're not hungry.

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>>17067900
Vegans are super butthurt about low-carb diets. Keto wiped out decades of lies about nutrition and health which vegans had been spreading to scare people away from eating animals.

They don't want anyone to ever do keto so they make posts like that. They are very dishonest and they have a hard time thinking due to malnourishment. They don't realize how silly their lies are.

>> No.17067931

Imagine having to follow a stupid diet because you have shit tier will power in the first place.

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>>17067914
Indeed. I just lost ~13 kg incredibly easily and now I'm effortlessly maintaining at around 70.5 kg, eating as much as I want. Oh, and all my lifts are going up (I just take a little bit of dextrose before going to the gym).

>> No.17067947

>>17067931
Ketosis is the body's natural state.

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>>17067931
A person with willpower should use their willpower to stop eating carbs. That's the most effective intervention for losing body fat.

Why waste willpower on something that doesn't work (i.e. calorie restriction)?

>> No.17068312

>>17065087
post body

>> No.17068332

>>17067947
>turns you're blood into acid if it progresses too far or for too long
I'd like to speak with the design team here, because this is a crap feature.

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17068357

All places where people experience extra long life eat carbs for almost all meals.
Greece - bread
Italy - pasta and bread all the time
Japan - Rice and tofu
The key ingredient to a healthy life seems to be a balanced died that delivers a wide range of nutrients with each meal.
Keto is a meme for fatasses

>> No.17068364

>>17068332
And that doesn't happen to anyone who isn't a type 1 diabetic.

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I don’t see the purpose of “diets” as they’re mostly temporary. I just eat low carb and high protein. It’s what I mostly crave and it’s realistic because i don’t see myself quitting carbs all together. I’ve always been thin.

Plus, I could never go Keri because I like my alcohol.

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I don’t see the purpose of “diets” as they’re mostly temporary. I just eat low carb and high protein. It’s what I mostly crave and it’s realistic because i don’t see myself quitting carbs all together. I’ve always been thin.

Plus, I could never go keto because I like my alcohol.

>> No.17068416

>>17065087
kys you contrarian fuck

>> No.17069392

>>17068357
>All places where people experience extra long life drive Volvos
I guess we should all drive Volvos to live long

>> No.17070808

>>17068416
i'll teach you how to deep throat a .45 and you'll learn to want to pull the trigger

>> No.17070827

>>17068400
Eat big to get big. However, eventually you'll have too much fat over the muscle and you go on a cut. Then you go back to bulk, hopefully minimizing muscle loss. "Diets" are just routes to goal bodies assuming you're active. Diets without specific goals are just retarded though.

>> No.17071064

>>17065087
I would eat those raw just like that.

>> No.17071287

>>17065145
I'm not insulin resistant, and keto got me to lose 15kg+

>> No.17071458 [DELETED] 

>>17071287
then you probably were insulin resistant

>> No.17071480

>>17071287
you mightve been insulin resistant and just not known. Most people dont get diagnosed with insulin resistance until it progresses to diabetes. Just having a normal fasting blood sugar doesn't mean you aren't insulin resistant

>> No.17071525

99% of people on “keto” aren’t in ketosis

>> No.17072657

>>17065095
>>17065096
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6286979/

>> No.17072664

>>17065157
You were dehydrated.

>> No.17072683

>>17066414
You can eat extra carbs before working out on keto

Why are you talking if you didn't know this basic idea