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17010068 No.17010068 [Reply] [Original]

What's the point of using copper other than showing off how rich you are?

>> No.17010073

What’s wrong with showing off how rich I am?
You know how many times my gorgeous copper cookware has gotten me laid?
Zero.
But I can afford the middle-aged Chinese women at my local massage parlor, and then admire my cookware when I get home.

>> No.17010076

>>17010068
It's better than any other material?
As to "rich", consider that a fancy place with a high end stove costs thousands of dollars a month, whereas upgrading your pan costs like what, $300 at worst? It's far more cost effective to buy a nice pan than have workers rip out your stove and put in a new one in a rental apartment.

>> No.17010080

>>17010068
It's beautiful to look at and it's a wonderful heat conductor, though you could argue that only the bottom needs to be copper with regards to conductivity.

>> No.17010153

you should only use it if you live in a french country cottage.

>> No.17010164

its self sanitizing

>> No.17010169

>>17010076
Idk how old you are, I just want to tell everyone that if you're over 30 and still renting, you really need to sort out your life.

>> No.17010200

>>17010169
>housing has never been difficult for anyone

>> No.17010209

>>17010169
I'm over 30 and not renting, but congrats on owning a home, fellow homeowner. My advice still stands, yours is irrelevant.

>> No.17010238

>>17010080
the deep stew pots conduct that heat right up the sides and there’s really nothing better for slow cooking
I caramelize onions 10lbs at a time and back when I was using enameled cast iron or an aluminum stock pot I’d need to add half a bottle of wine or a quart of stock to prevent scorching
with the copper pot of similar size, I don’t need to add any cooking liquid over the 3-4 hours of cooking

>> No.17010260

>>17010238
i'm glad you bought a pot after retirement, anon. fascinating stuff.

>> No.17010281

>>17010260
anyone who takes cooking seriously should aspire to own some copper cookware, when they can afford it
I honestly wish that some of the money I poured into le creuset pots had been spent on copper earlier in my life but I always viewed them as meme status-symbol shit until I actually got my hands on one

>> No.17010312

>>17010068
It's very heat reactive, which makes copper superior materials for sauce making. It's not practical for purposes with cinstant temoeratures like heavy roasting, boiling, simmering etc.

>> No.17010333

>>17010068
>copper
>rich
pennies are made of it.

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>>17010333
You know pennies are made from zinc...right?
97.5% Zinc, 2.5% copper (plating).

And even then, pennies are worth 1.75 cents to 2 cents per penny.

If they were made from pure copper, they would be worth probably closer to about 5 cents.
Also, when it comes to copper cookware you're paying for labor and manufacturing overhead, not just the pure metal cost of copper.

>> No.17010488

>>17010068
Copper is flimsy as fuck particularly if you heat it at all. Would not recommend. You can even see those pans are not copper inside, meaning it's for show to fleece retards.

>> No.17010504

I watched some japanese show and they said the secret to a great pancake is using a copper surface.

>> No.17010549

>>17010488
Are you retarded? All modern copper cookware is stainless steel lined.

Copper is toxic, the only things made in pure copper are jams, candies, and when shopping egg whites.

>> No.17010553

>>17010549
>shopping
Whipping

>> No.17010554

>>17010549
>shopping egg whites.
i still put mine in single use plastic bags.

>> No.17010556

>>17010169
If you're alive and wasting precious time on 4chan, you need to sort out your life, dickweed.

>> No.17010591

>>17010554
>>17010553
Close

>> No.17010786

>>17010281
>I honestly wish that some of the money I poured into le creuset pots had been spent on copper earlier in my life but I always viewed them as meme status-symbol shit
I mean, as someone that owns a fair bit of copper my only advice is never pay full MSRP.

I've gotten new direct from the manufacturer copper for ~50% off MSRP or more.

The only exception is if you need/want a larger copper piece that you're not willing to spend years hunting around for a vintage one that would fit your needs.

A large stock pot for example, if you need a copper stockpot, you're just gonna have to nut up and buy one new at or near MSRP, or wait for years until you stumble upon one in good condition that's not stupid priced.

>> No.17010808

Not using a 22k gold frying pan. YNGMI

>> No.17010811

>>17010076
If you buy a mauviel pan but you can’t afford a house then you are a god damned moron

>> No.17010814

>>17010786
well yeah that goes without saying
but my point was that I wish I hadn’t spent so much time chasing down different sizes of enameled french ovens that I thought I needed and instead taken the copper pill earlier
all of the copper I own is used very regularly, but out of 6 various enameled pots I really only use the same two that often

>> No.17010820

>>17010811
First of all I don't want a house. Little boxes, little boxes, they're all made of ticky tacky. Lawns are absolutely nightmare fuel to me.

Second, when I was saving for my condo, I bought several copper pans. A typical down payment is like $80-120k whereas a copper pan is about as much as your favorite vidya system, 4K television, or 4000 pound 4 wheeled death box (I consider you a moron for owning anything like that, though I'm quite sure you do).

So that leads us back to you. What are you doing with your life, you moron?

>> No.17010821

>>17010786
Which copper brands though? No one likes that all clad meme shit

>> No.17010825

>>17010820
I’m enjoying my nice house that gained 100k equity in one year as I laugh at your retarded boomer ass who can’t afford a place to live LMFAO

>> No.17010844

>>17010821
real copper, mauviel.

>> No.17010849

>>17010811
You think the $200 spent on mauviel is the difference between them being in an apartment vs a house?

lol

>> No.17010850

>>17010825
Your reading comprehension is garbage, must be gasoline fumes from all those hours mowing muh lawn.

>> No.17010869

>>17010849
To him that's probably the difference between a trailer and a house. It's the same guy in every thread, no matter what the subject is he tries to make it about muh home ownership, because he has nothing going for him other than his squatter house he bought for a bag of $50 bills in some half-completed subdivision that was abandoned after the 2008 crisis. He's in the cooking at home thread too talking about how mortgages are a jewish lizard people hoax.

>> No.17010876

>>17010869
>>17010849
>>17003124
>>17003616

>> No.17010881

>>17010876
lol, just stop eating avocado toast and drinking Starbucks, you'll have a house in a few months tops.

>> No.17010890

>>17010881
Starbucks is disgusting, but I did drink very good coffee when I was saving for my condo. I've gotten more into fancy teas now though. $2 per gram makes your average fancy coffee look like McDonalds crap.

>> No.17010908

>>17010849
Means you make shit financial decisions, yes.

>> No.17011327
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>>17010068
a man likes to have copper pots laying around, stop asking questions chud

>> No.17012055

>>17010786
>>I've gotten new direct from the manufacturer copper for ~50% off MSRP or more.
how?

>> No.17012061

does copper require special care for it?

>> No.17012076

>>17012061
tinned copper is about as much of a pain in the dick as teflon, except that it's not as nonstick as teflon

normal (stainless lined) copper doesn't require special care, unless you are the "copper for decoration" type in which case you polish your copper every time it gets a little boo boo, which is never, because people like that buy copper to hang up, not to cook with

>> No.17012089

>>17010908
I'd say you're probably not good at budgeting. It sounds like all you know about money is to either spend or not spend. Dividing income into categories of expenditure is foreign to you, rolling over remaining surpluses from one income period to the next is not something you've considered. Read up a little on proper budgeting, and you'll likely find your income working more effectively for you.

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>>17012055
Waiting for sales

>> No.17012124 [DELETED] 

>>17010820
>Lawns are absolutely nightmare fuel to me.
haha americans. just let the shit grow wild and it'll literally look better than some buzzcut soulless lawn. oh wait, no, you can't, cause you cucked yourself hard with HOA's in a miserably failed attempt to keep minorities out of your suburbs.

>> No.17012153
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>>17012089
If someone wanted to blow $1500 on a shitty cruise or trip to disney world nobody would accuse them of being "bad with money" but a $300 pan that lasts the rest of your life is evidently a sign of financial illiteracy. Never mind just drink your corn syrup, nice things are a scam
>>17012124
Look at the bright side, petty dispute with your neighbor over literally anything? Just have them swatted, problem solved!

>> No.17012229 [DELETED] 

>>17012153
okay yeah that is pretty nifty

>> No.17012232

>>17010434
how many pennies would it take to make a pot

>> No.17012255

>>17010786
Why in the absolute fuck would you ever need a copper stock pot? What possible use would that be?

>> No.17012264

>>17012232
A small saucepan of good quality would contain about 150cc of copper. An old copper penny is about 3g of copper. At 8.94 grams per cc that's about 450 old copper pennies.

>> No.17012273

>>17012255
Why do you NEED a car? Answer: you don't. You WANT car. Anon wants a copper stockpot. Why are you so mad?

>> No.17012276 [DELETED] 

>>17012232
depends on the pot, let's assume a weight of 2.5 pounds(there are of course pots that are way bigger than this). 16 329 copper plated zinc pennis

>> No.17012278 [DELETED] 

>>17012264
>An old copper penny
cheater

>> No.17012298

>>17012273
He literally said need in his post

>> No.17012383

>>17012298
I specifically say need/want earlier in the post, I could've said it again later, but it should've already been evident that's what was meant.

Obviously you don't need a stock pot at all in life, or to even own pots or pans, just order McDonald's every day.

>> No.17013103

>>17012276
More than that.

A penny weighs 2.5g only 2.5% is copper, that's 0.0625g per penny of copper. For 2.5lbs of copper (about 1135g) youd need more like 18,000 pennies.

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>>17013103
copper pans are usually 90% copper(even the nice ones)

>> No.17013220

it's better than aluminum

>> No.17013244

>>17013209
Stainless steel is about 12% less dense than copper, which you're not accounting for.

So yes, 2.3mm copper and 0.2mm stainless lining is 90/10 copper/stainless, but the copper weighs more than 90% of the total weight.

>> No.17013996

>>17010312
>for sauce making
yes i think copper sause pan is based

>> No.17014011

>>17012104
>cast iron handle
>you will think you should've choose stainless handle one

>> No.17014048

>>17012255
Looks pretty while I skim scum

>> No.17014060 [DELETED] 

>>17013244
so we're both wrong

>> No.17014082

>>17010312
>It's very heat reactive
That's called thermally conductive GED wannabe

>> No.17014095

>>17010820
Holy fucking autismo, how do you function enough to have an income?

>> No.17014353

>>17010169
If you are over 30 and browsing 4chan, I have news for you.

>> No.17014383

>>17010164
The tin is self sanitizing?

>> No.17014386

>>17010068
I don't know, but sauciers love them.

>> No.17014504

>>17014095
I often wonder the same thing myself. No one ever said this was a meritocracy. Ok I lied, they often say that, but it's bullshit and you know it.

>> No.17014508

>>17010073
based

>> No.17014511

>>17014060
>>17013244
>>17013209
>>17013103
>>17012276
>>17012232
based polite conversation

>> No.17014529

>>17014383
Almost no modern copper uses tin unless it's being sold for a very specific function, or sold as vintage-like despite being new.

The VAST majority of modern copper is stainless steel lined, not tin.

>> No.17014537

>>17014011
Technically their modern "cast iron" is actually cast stainless steel that is then electroplated with a layer of iron.

Only their older stuff used full cast iron.

>> No.17014540

>>17014353
I have news for you too: you're never leaving this place

>> No.17015723

>>17014529
That's not really true, tinned copper is still quite popular. You have to remember that copper is already a niche product in its own right, so anyone drawn to it won't have too far to go to start being curious about fringe shit like tin lining

>> No.17015752

>>17015723
I mean, you can find it, but it's not "popular", or commonplace.

Falk, Matfer Bourgeat, Made In, Mauviel, Rufoni, etc.

All use stainless steel on their primary copper products.

Rufoni and Mauviel both have vintage/heritage collections that are tinned, but they're generally more specialty pieces (like a turbot kettle) the vast majority of what they make and sell is stainless lined.

So yes, tinned copper exists, but it's basically always sold as a heritage or vintage piece, even if it's brand new. And further, it's also usually for specialty cookware.

>> No.17015808

>>17010068
copper is old school. it's what people used before cast iron because it was easy to smelt and work with. also, relatively food safe compared to other metals, and it's a good conductor that is stable at cooking temperatures.

>> No.17015825

>>17014540
Toss my phone in the coffin with me so I can see how many (You)s my last post gets.

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>>17010068
I bought my stainless-lined copper set for 40 euros (including 15 for delivery). Pic related, except switch the fish pan for a stewpot. I'm proud of it.

>> No.17015863

>>17015752
Maybe we have different ideas of popular. A product you can buy from any mall in a middle class neighborhood is popular in the grand scheme of things. Until recently tinned copper pans were a lot easier to find in stores than even carbon steel cooking knives, although that has changed somewhat now that everyone has gone full weeb.

>> No.17015882

>>17015863
It's been more than a decade since tinned copper was even close to standard.

Hell, it was basically standard by the late 90's.


Again, tinned stuff exists, but pretty much EVERY copper manufacturer is pushing stainless as their primary copper line.

Again, only two of the 5 brands i mentioned even offer tinned copper at ALL, and it's priced higher and marketed specifically for aesthetics or heritage production techniques.

I own over two dozen various copper pieces, the only tinned stuff is vintage, anything bought new in the last 20 years is stainless.

>> No.17015888

>>17015832
That's almost certainly copper-plated aluminum with a stainless lining.

>> No.17015923

>>17015888
No. It was second hand, and as it was old and tarnished, I removed the handles to clean and polish them. I took the chance to drill one a little bit at a spot that would be hidden by the handle. I only went like half a millimeter deep, but it was still copper inside.

>> No.17015965

>>17010068
To get heavy metal poisoning because you hate life

>> No.17015971

>>17010553
Nice. No one was able to flame u for auto correct hehe

>> No.17016056

>>17015971
dodged that bullet by a full 1 second.

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>>17015923
Not bad, looks pretty thin though.

Also, I'm personally not a fan of the rolled edges that hide the copper.

I like being able to see how thick the copper is by looking at the edge. (webM related, just look at the edge and it's a thicc line of copper with a tiny bit of stainless on the inside)

>> No.17016066

>>17015882
Why are you changing the argument? I never said it was standard. I said it was popular. Walk into any Williams-Sonoma and they sell it. Even a lot of TJMaxx stores. You're just terribly, terribly wrong about all of this.

>> No.17016074

>>17016066
Lol, but it's NOT popular, like at all.

Again, yes it exists, and yes it is in stores, but you're walking past a dozen+ stainless lined pieces to find a SINGLE tinned piece.

That's not popular moron.

>> No.17016082

>>17014529
How is stainless steel (or tin) self sanitizing?

>> No.17016084

>>17016082
It's not, the copper is.

My point was simply tinned lined stuff simply isn't really standard anymore so you should generally assume it's stainless steel lined unless it's vintage, or something non-standard.

If I walk into a kitchen and see a standard set of copper pots and pans, 9 times out of 10 it's stainless steel lined.

Copper is anti-microbial, and thus somewhat self-sanatizing.

The cooking surface is not and never has been self-sanitizing, and should be cleaned thoroughly after use.

>> No.17016089

>>17016084
>It's not, the copper is.
Copper isn't touching food, so who gives a shit.

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>>17016074
Not really, I've never seen a stainless lined copper pan at TJMaxx but I've seen a ton of tinned ones. At Williams Sonoma there's usually equal numbers of tinned and stainless, and also quite a lot of those fake "copper" pans they're pushing now, maybe those threw you off? Pic related.

>> No.17016104

>>17010068
to toxify your body.
same reason why romans used lead.

>> No.17016111

>>17016102
I usually see a lot of tin lined copper everywhere, and sometimes a few silver lined copper. To me I think the people who want copper are mostly looking for the tin lined version.

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>>17016102
Lol no those didn't "throw me off"

Show your copper

>>17016111
>are mostly looking for the tin lined version.
This is delusional, most copper manufacturers don't even produce tin-lined stuff anymore.

>> No.17016152

>>17016115
>This is delusional, most copper manufacturers don't even produce tin-lined stuff anymore.
You're retarded. Nobody cares about what is sold in your shanty town. When I see copper pans they are tin lined with sets ranging from $800-$1200.
They are being made, and the copper/stainless steel ones exist, but that's not what people who are wanting a copper pan are looking at. Those are for those who want a stainless steel pan first, and then want the copper look.

>> No.17016164

>>17016111
Yeah I think that guy is just digging in becuase he likes to argue, I've had arguments over his nonsense in past copper threads

>>17016115
Ok you win, tin lined copper doesn't exist, and actually I don't even have any copper, as proven by the fact that I'm not going to get up and arrange all my pans for an inane argument with a moron on 4chan, happy now?

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>>17016152
I live in one of the wealthiest suburbs of the country, outside of a major city.

You're simply full of shit, pic related, all of the copper sets currently sold by William Sonoma online, and the ONLY sets that have tin lining, are the Ruffoni sets, which are specifically their heritage collection, which specifically offers a vintage styling and manufacturing techniques.

Everything else, is stainless steel lined.

>> No.17016225

>>17016171
>I live in one of the wealthiest suburbs of the country, outside of a major city.
I live in a random shithole, and tin lined copper pans are available in department stores, and restaurant supply stores, so maybe you have a hole in your head.
>here's some stainless steel pans, so tin lined doesn't exist
You're obviously brain damaged.
Add "tin lined, or tin lining" in your online search dumbshit, and you'll find plenty of new tin lined products made in us, and france.

>> No.17016231

>>17016225
gr8 b8 m8

>> No.17016243

>>17016063
what if they plate over part of the rim to make the copper look thicker?

>> No.17016254

>>17016231
>b8
This kind of fuckery should be illegal.
An online search is all it takes an anon to prove you wrong.

>> No.17016279

>>17016063
do you touch yourself when miring the thickness of that copper anon?

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>>17016225
Not at William Sonoma. They have Ruffoni stuff that's tinned, and some special mauviel stuff that's tinned, but basically everything else is stainless.

Pic related, the ONLY things that are tinned are the non-standard mauviel things(Fish poacher, turbot kettle, fondue set, etc), and the Ruffoni stuff.

>>17016243
I guess they COULD, but there is little reason to do so, any nig name-brand that did that would be called out pretty soon after releasing something like that.

>> No.17016286

>>17016282
>Not at William Sonoma.
Your point?

>> No.17016290

>>17016282
>nig
big

>>17016286
see >>17016102
>At Williams Sonoma there's usually equal numbers of tinned and stainless

>> No.17016301

>>17016290
That's a different anon, and completely different conversation string.

>> No.17016302

>>17016282
>but basically everything else
You mean the all-clad and 20 other pans that aren't even copper except for trace amounts?

>> No.17016303

>>17016301
If you say so, the whole point is stainless steel is by far more commonly seen unless you're specifically looking at show pieces, or specialty stuff.

Your standard 5-10 piece copper set is going to be stainless lined.

>> No.17016310

>>17016302
Literally, all of the mauviel except for the specialty things, all of the Hestan, and all of the william sonoma branded copper.

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>>17016303
If you had just said it's more common there would have been no argument, but your argument was (and evidently remains) "almost no tinned copper is sold" which is laughable

>> No.17016347

>>17016303
>If you say so, the whole point is stainless steel is by far more commonly seen
My point was that tin lined copper is available new, and is what people who are looking for copper pans are interested in. You're overlapping your arguments over to multiple anons. Also who gives a fuck about a different product just because it's commonly seen when discussing a specific product? Pfte lined pans are the most commonly seen, but that does not relate when looking for copper/tin.
>unless you're specifically looking at show pieces, or specialty stuff.
You're moving goal posts, and copper tin lined is a niche product by default, so no shit fatlock.

>> No.17016364

The steel dildo store only sells steel dragon dildos so tin lined copper pans don't exist.

>> No.17016365

>>17016347
>and is what people who are looking for copper pans are interested in
It's really not, the only people who want tinned copper specifically are usually just doing it because they think it's somehow classier, or because of the aesthetics.

For actual usability? Stainless steel lined is MUCH preferred by almost every chef I know.


You really think NO ONE buys copper for use and EVERYONE that buys copper is only buying show pieces?

Come the fuck on.


Again, I have dozens of pieces of copper, and EVERYTHING I have bought in the last 2 decades new I've bought stainless lined because I simply don't want to keep retinning my pans every decade. It's not too absurdly expensive, but it's still additional money and time you're having to invest in your pans.

>> No.17016401

>>17016365
>It's really not, the only people who want tinned copper specifically are usually just doing it because they think it's somehow classier, or because of the aesthetics.
It's the other way around. People who buy copper tin lined pans are doing it because they believe that they can master the art, esoteric technique and heat control to create the best omellete, sauce, or etc. The people looking for stainless steel aren't looking to dedicate that much effort, and just like the aesthetic of copper, but still retain the convenience of stainless steel.

>> No.17016404

>>17016365
Calm down sperg. You are projecting hard.

>> No.17016416

>>17016365
>when the loud self appointed expert doesn't actually know anything

>> No.17016421

>>17016365
Tin has much better thermal conductivity than stainless steel.

>> No.17016432

>>17016421
>>17016401
Tin has very minor thermal benefits that don't really matter in 90% of situations.

Is tin lined slightly better than stainless lined? Sure, but both are better than standard 3-ply or 5-ply stainless.

I have both stainless and tinned copper, I pick the stainless in almost every situation unless I only own a tinned version of the pan I need, or I'm doing something super delicate like pan frying white fish

>> No.17016453

>>17016432
Why do you keep linking me to your posts when your comments aren't a direct response to my posts?

>> No.17016463

>>17016453
oh sorry was I supposed to reply directly to your autism?

>The people looking for stainless steel aren't looking to dedicate that much effort, and just like the aesthetic of copper, but still retain the convenience of stainless steel.
No, stainless lined copper performs better than any 3-ply or 5-ply stainless set, while retaining the convenience of a stainless cooking surface.

You're retarded if you think 0.2mm of stainless steel on top of 2.3mm of copper suddenly makes it just as shit as a standard stainless pan and somehow all of that copper does nothing for thermal performance.
better?

>> No.17016505

>>17016463
>oh sorry was I supposed to reply directly to your autism?
Yes. It's kind of how it works when responding to an anon.
>No, stainless lined copper performs better than any 3-ply or 5-ply stainless set, while retaining the convenience of a stainless cooking surface.
Your point?
>You're retarded if you think 0.2mm of stainless steel on top of 2.3mm of copper suddenly makes it just as shit as a standard stainless pan and somehow all of that copper does nothing for thermal performance.
better?
Copper+tin performs differently than copper stainless. They are for different markets, and tin lined copper is available new. The end.
Have your strange unrelated arguments with someone else.

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Should I buy it?

>> No.17017096

>>17017082
what do you need it for and how much do they want for it.

>> No.17017151

>>17017096
$100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Mpl78GbP0

>> No.17017169

>>17017151
I mean, it's clearly not Gyokusendo, they don't make that sorta thing. They make tea/coffee-related stuff mainly, and tends to cost a lot more $1000+ tea pots and shit like that

The hammered copper look is fine i guess, but at $100 it's clearly nothing high-end.

>> No.17017227

>>17017169
I guess you have to spend about $300 to get a real TSUIKI...

>> No.17017328

>>17010169
post zip code

>> No.17017384

>>17010549
>Copper is toxic
incorrect as long as copper is shiny and clean it's an excellent cooking surface conducts and stores heat well, is anti bacterial.

it's when it oxidizes that it becomes toxic.

>> No.17017393

>>17017384
It's still not recommended to use for general cooking.

Unlined copper is basically only used for jam making, candy making, and whipping egg whites. As I said.

>> No.17018760

>>17017328
25703

>> No.17019319

>>17017384
It is antibacterial because it is toxic. It's just much more easily absorbed by the body when it's oxidized.