/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.16957034]

What country outside of France, Italy, and America make the best wines?

[Anonymous No.16957077]

>>16957034
Chile has some good wines
https://www.jamessuckling.com/wine-tasting-reports/top-rated-chilean-wines-date/

[Anonymous No.16957078]

Chile.

[Anonymous No.16957171]

>>16957034
Well, looks like Chile has been taken, so I'll go with Argentina.

[Anonymous No.16957180]

>>16957034
>america
You seem to have mistyped, dear anon

[Anonymous No.16957183]

>>16957034
I think Asstralia or some shit. Who cares, just drink what you like.

[Anonymous No.16957289]

>Italy
>America

wtf are you on aboot? France, Australia and Portugal have taken most of the IWC medals for the past 20 years.

[Anonymous No.16957381]

>>16957034
The best wine is that Italian wine that comes in the basket

[Anonymous No.16957390]

Spain, obviously

[Anonymous No.16957493]

>>16957390
This. Spain is amazing for any style of wine under the sun. Big bold reds, aromatic whites, world class sweet wine and phenomenal traditional sparklers.
Pic related has some of the best soft and smooth red wines in the world. Catalonia may be full of socialists but they know how to make amazing wine.

[Anonymous No.16957498]

>>16957034
Argentina

[Anonymous No.16957558]

>>16957034
Austria

[Anonymous No.16957634]

OZZIE OZZIE OZZIE, OI OI OI

[Anonymous No.16957692]

>>16957034
America doesn't belong in that sentence

Germany, Hungary, Slovenia, Austria, Portugal, Spain, Georgia, and even Lebanon make better wine than N*pa

California is to wine what Wisconsin is to cheese: delusional, and with its head up its own ass

[Anonymous No.16957834]

Americans make terrible wine

[Anonymous No.16957842]

>>16957498

I'm not crazy about malbec, though. Have they got anything else?

[Anonymous No.16957852]

>>16957842
Keep trying, some of them are real good, all kidding aside, just sample wines, you'd be surprised what you truly like and with what

[Anonymous No.16957859]

>>16957842
Torrontes. I agree argie 'bec is trash

[Anonymous No.16957867]

>>16957852
It's ok to admit that some wines/regions simply aren't good.

[Anonymous No.16957871]

>>16957867
It's all subjective and opinion in the end, r-right?

[Anonymous No.16957890]

>>16957871
Some people use words differently, as long as we can all agree that my internal experiences are valid and yours are valid only to the extent that they correspond to mine irrespective of the words we happen to use to describe them, and those semantic differences are all that we mean by "subjective" then yes. Exactly.

[Anonymous No.16957939]

Spain. Good dry reds here are fantastic. And like this anon mentioned: >>16957493 god bless the catalans for the Cava they make. Also finding good wine that's also cheap is stupidly easy.

[Anonymous No.16957955]

>>16957034
England

[Anonymous No.16957963]

>>16957955
Br*tish climate may become better for wine in the next decades but the people have no hope of producing anything delicious

My money is on the norwegians

[Anonymous No.16958007]

>>16957034
>valid question
>brings america-obsessed out to screech
At least you tried.

[Anonymous No.16958033]

>>16958007
95% of the posts ITT are about literally any country except america, yet you apparently could only see the ones about your own cuntry. Speaking of obsessed

[Anonymous No.16958049]

Canada

[Anonymous No.16958200]

>>16957955
based
england is making more and more wine each year
even french champagne houses are buying up land in england to make wine in

[Anonymous No.16958206]

Austrians bring a certain autism to their wines that I find enjoyable. Anti-freeze memes aside…

[Anonymous No.16958397]

>>16957183
>just drink what you like
noooooooo i need to flex my knowledge and expertise and worldliness to people online

[Anonymous No.16959232]

Wife and I really enjoy German wine.

[Anonymous No.16959271]

Georgian wine. Aint even close. Winelets get off my board

[Anonymous No.16959279]

Bros how do I get in to wine?

[Anonymous No.16959287]

>>16957955
“English wine is like French rock and roll” —-John Lennon

[Anonymous No.16959511]

if i had to rank the major winegrowing countries we would go:

france
germany
spain
austria
italy
south africa
portugal
hungary
usa
new zealand
chile
australia
rat vomit and dirty dishwater
argentina


>>16957955
as someone who works in english wine this is wrong it sucks major ass

[Anonymous No.16959514]

>>16957077
>james suckling
>rothschild new world projects
>bordeaux blends

youll never make it anon

[Anonymous No.16959541]

>>16959271
Tastes like shit, hasn't evolved in thousands of years

>>16957034
Probably Spain, Germany, Chile, Australia

[Anonymous No.16959545]

>>16957034
Probably Greece, because their raw material --see: grapes-- isn't GMO crap. Yet.

[Anonymous No.16959566]

>>16959545
Finally someone mentions greece

[Anonymous No.16959568]

>>16959287
John Lennon was a faggot and is dead, and nothing of value was lost.

[Anonymous No.16959584]

>>16959566
Took the missus to the Peloponnese for winter break a few years ago. Purest food we've both ever had, and their wines taste completely different. Even their processed/packaged stuff tasted "organic" to our NY palate.

[Anonymous No.16959585]

>>16957034
Canada, you know-nothing fuckwit

[Anonymous No.16959591]

>>16957077
>>16957171
>>16957180
>>16957183
>>16957381
>>16957498
>>16957558
>>16957692
>>16957955
>>16958007
>>16959541
>>16959545
None of you fucking imbeciles mentioned Canada

[Anonymous No.16959599]

>>16959511
why would you put germany above spain and italy?

[Anonymous No.16959602]

>>16959591
>worst parts of bongs and frogs combined murican arrogance: the country
No, thanks.

[Anonymous No.16959611]

spain obviously

[Anonymous No.16959617]

australian natural wine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Anonymous No.16959710]

>>16959602
kill yourself, fuckstain

[Anonymous No.16959721]

>>16957289
>IWC
Snobs don't count. Who the fuck sniffs a cork like a brap from Jennifer Anistons asshole either way

[Anonymous No.16959735]

>>16957034
I've had some great Croatian wines.

[Anonymous No.16959736]

>>16959591
canadian wine? probably comes out of the barrels like a slushie.

[Anonymous No.16959744]

I make pretty good wine in my basement

[Anonymous No.16959771]

>>16959599
I'd guess because the best German white wines can indeed compete with best French whites in quality. German whites are actually more expensive, whatever that might mean. White wine from hotter climates is nowhere near in quality (note that best French white is made north, away from Med sea) . Now while Spanish and Italian red wine surely is much better than German red, it's still not at the level of French red wine.

There is a lot of generalization in this obviously and surely some people will not agree but that would be a line of thinking I could agree with heh.

[Anonymous No.16959933]

>>16959771
This. Get yourself some decent Riesling eiswein from the Mosel region, and it'll probably be one of the best white wines you've ever had.

[Anonymous No.16959943]

>>16959721
>Jennifer Aniston
Literally who? Go back to bed grandpa

[Anonymous No.16960128]

>>16959771
despite disagreeing with almost everything you wrote i can see your reasons and their logical conclusion. ty for answering anon.

[Anonymous No.16960194]

>>16959591
Canada has some exceptional ice wine but you are obviously a Canadian trying to shill his own country because like most Canadians you are insecure about Canada and subconsciously think it sucks

[Anonymous No.16960511]

>>16959591
Went on wine turns in Canada for the fuck of it, only thing that stood out ice wine you fuck, I mean the wine wasn't bad, but it wasn't anything that stood out except for the ice wine.
>>16960194
This right here, canadian ice wine pretty good and stood out, wasn't really aware it existed before, but on one wine tour the guide was heavily into it and was raving about it, told us all about the process and we sampled a bit, bought some small bottles myself. Ice wine is kind of cool.

[Anonymous No.16960519]

>>16960511
imagine paying actual money for a wine tour in fucking canada lmao

[Anonymous No.16960535]

>>16960519
How DARE people DO THINGS holy shit just fucking shitpost from your mothers basement like ME now THAT is BASED AS FUCK am I right!?!?!?!??!

[Anonymous No.16960544]

>>16957034
>american wine
Spain, but is a definite third overall out of them, the frogs and the wops. The beat the italians in some categories (overall their sparkling is much better) but France is the untouchable no.1 wine nation overall, except for fortified wines.

[Anonymous No.16960564]

>>16957955
Some of the sparkling wine is good, but thats the only thing to write home about, champagne and Cava still top.

[Anonymous No.16960595]

>>16960519
Imagine leaving the basement or getting a passport and on a plane? Install a carbon monoxide detector and check your lungs out for mold damage, supplement with vitamin d3 at least. :^)
>>16960535
This.

[Anonymous No.16960615]

>>16959591
>canadian
>mass reply
kys

[Anonymous No.16960621]

>>16960535
>>16960595
leafcucks seething lmao

[Anonymous No.16960687]

>>16959591
No one really gives much of a shit about VQAO or VQABC wines anon, sure they're not too bad but I'm probably going to go buy the bottle of Valpolicella anyway.

[Anonymous No.16960690]

>>16957381
You mean Chianti? That's one type of wine that typically uses fiaschi as a marketing gimmick.
But it's actually just a container you know, you can find any kind of wine (and oil for that matter) sold that way.

[Anonymous No.16960705]

Argentina.
Mendoza is the eurocucks dream.

[Anonymous No.16960713]

>>16957034
austria

[Anonymous No.16960747]

>>16959287
Lots of French rock and metal bands are pretty fuckin b@d@ss

[Anonymous No.16960776]

>>16960621
Wrong, but you do you basement anon.

[Anonymous No.16960793]

>>16957034
>drinking wines from the new world

[Anonymous No.16960824]

Hands down the best white wine under $20 i ever had.
Thanks argie bros.

[Anonymous No.16960832]

>>16959599
i drink a ton of riesling for one but also love spatburgunder and other german wines. quality is better across the spectrum whereas spain and italy make a lot of pretty bad wine alongside some exceptional wines

>>16959545
should have mentioned greece, would come in below hungary on my list

>>16959591
at least in the uk canadian wine is without a doubt the worst value ive come across

>>16960793
youre missing out if youre not drinking any south african wine

[Anonymous No.16961199]

>>16960747
Metal yes, rock not so much

[Anonymous No.16961213]

>>16960832
The new world is the Americas and Australia.

[Anonymous No.16961805]

Every country south of France makes wines that are too alcoholic IMHO

[Anonymous No.16961902]

>>16959514
What?

[Anonymous No.16961906]

>>16957034
>America

Lol
The absolute state of burguers

[Anonymous No.16961921]

>>16959933
Eiswein is a dessert wine. That's nothing you can compare to normal white wine.

[Anonymous No.16961997]

>>16957034
>America
>>16957077
>>16957171
>>16957078
Ignore these guys they are latinos. I'm also a latino but i'm not a fucking shiller.

Spain and Portugal

[Anonymous No.16962233]

Wherever this shit is made. Holy fuck it's so damn good.

[Anonymous No.16962651]

>>16957692
t. seething frog

[Anonymous No.16962793]

>>16960824
I wish the Syrah under that label wasn't so overextracted. Hate that shit about New World wine.

[Anonymous No.16962948]

>>16962651
>being so obsessed with France that everyone who disagrees with you is French
France still living rent free in your head after all these years? I thought muh judgment of paris was supposed to fix that. Or if it can't, add a gallon of mega purple and a truckload of oak chips. It's your solution to everything else isn't it?

[Anonymous No.16962969]

>>16957034
never trust countries that make wine but dont drink it themselves.
this is why you should exclusively buy Aussie wine.

[Anonymous No.16963142]

>>16962948
If American is selected for its similar soil composition and climate to European regions, planted with European varietals, harvested and processed via European methods, and made by a European winemaker, it's going to be of similar quality to European wine. Obviously the mega purple oak bombs aren't going to measure up, but you know that's in bad faith.

[Anonymous No.16963158]

>>16957034
Spain, Portugal and Australia. New Zealand also has decent conditions for whites. Don't particularly care for Argie or Chilean wine and don't touch any booze that comes out of America.

[Anonymous No.16963203]

>>16963142
>if {insert laundry list of pie in the sky conditions} is true, then you have no point
Burgerfriend, I would be very pleased if american winemakers would just stop making practical joke wine, "european methods" or otherwise, but you know what sells to the suburban facebook moms, or at least what wine industry consultants tell their clients sells to suburban facebook moms. Movements like "anything but chardonnay" aren't France's fault.

[Anonymous No.16963282]

>>16963203
In terms of premium wines, that's completely accurate. Winemaking practices, equipment, and professionals are shared/traded on a global level. Spanish wines are aged in Californian barrels and French nobility build wineries in Chile. With reasonable investment, good wines can be and have been made anywhere, "terroir" notwithstanding. You aren't special, frogbro.

[Anonymous No.16963292]

>>16963282
>I don't disagree with you, I just disagree with you
Why are you afraid of having a position on things? Is it because it would imply you accept that there are good and bad things and that would place your wine squarely in the "bad" category?
>frogbro
Wrong continent N*pabro.

[Anonymous No.16963406]

>>16963292
Dude I've hated every californian wine I've tried. Some of the washington and oregon stuff is good, but i like sicilian and rhone stuff best. i just think your opinion is dumb.

[Anonymous No.16963562]

>>16957034
Unironically Ohio.

[Anonymous No.16963614]

>>16963203
>I have no experience with American wine except cheap plonk & Rothschild oak juice
>therefore, nothing good exists there
I sometimes wonder how people like you stop yourselves from becoming solipsists.

[Anonymous No.16963650]

Australian cold climate shiraz is godly

[Anonymous No.16964397]

>>16963650
and gay