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ibsfags, how do you cope? trigger foods are a myth, everything I eat hurts my tummy and makes me shit painfully (even not eating anything). Is there really no hope?

This is the gayest lifelong disease you could have because you can't even complain about it without seeming like a weak faggot. I loathe having to eat these days. If I could just inject nutrients into my bloodstream I would.

>> No.16927434

>>16927431
>everything I eat hurts my tummy and makes me shit painfully (even not eating anything)
That's not IBS, it's cancer. Sorry to hear it anon, enjoy the time you have.

>> No.16927466

>>16927431
do you drink coffee? i do and i won't stop but i really should

>> No.16927552

>>16927431
Keto/limiting carbs to 100g a day has helped my asshole.

>> No.16927564

>>16927431
Go to doctor.
Get medication.
Heal.
Continue with your life.

>> No.16927658

Do one meal a day. Fixed my stomach and intestinal pain in like 3 days.

>> No.16927677

>>16927434
Hey it might not be cancer it can also be partial paralysis of the intestines

>> No.16927683

>>16927431
>>16927466
>>16927552
>>16927658
God, I hope you're women with IBM and you're farting in my face and mouth holes

>> No.16927686

Do 48 or 72 hour fasts with low carb refeeds

>> No.16927801

>>16927431
You could try a low residue diet which eliminates a lot of fiber so you don't have to poop as much. I tried the carnivore diet which helped but I struggled to get enough calories and I still kind of had diarrhea every few days. I've just been drinking a lot of milk lately and not eating/drinking anything else which actually seems to be helping, but that probably won't work for most people.

I also figured out I had an allergy to wheat and nuts which probably wasn't helping. So you might want to get tested for food allergies or do an elimination diet to figure out if anything in particular might be bothering you.

>> No.16927809

>>16927683
>God, I hope you're women with IBM
Tracey and Christine in HR?

>> No.16927810

>>16927658
That sounds like the problem might've just been overeating then. I've done OMAD a lot and it never made much of a difference.

>> No.16927820

>>16927564
Medication often has side effects and just masks a problem instead of actually fixing it. Going to doctors and being prescribed medication never really made anything easier for me and just added another problem into the mix.

>> No.16927873
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>>16927564
there is no medication. I went to a doctor and after running several tests he shrugged and said "maybe you just have ibs" before sending me home with a brochure for probiotics he admitted would probably not do much (and they didn't). you just have to cope with it

>> No.16927955

>>16927431
you need to eat the shit of a healthy person who has no digestion issues

>> No.16927981

>>16927431
>This is the gayest lifelong disease you could have because you can't even complain about it without seeming like a weak faggot. I loathe having to eat these days. If I could just inject nutrients into my bloodstream I would.
yeah my dad always bullies me for it.

I can't eat raw onions specifically and that fuck loves to cook with raw onions and eat them. he literally put 2 whole onions chopped into one serving what the fuck. Then he calls me a donkey for not being able to eat raw onions. fuck that guy.

>> No.16928033

>>16927955
Fecal transplants are only for fixing a problem with the bacteria in your digestive system, I don't think it would do anything if your intestines are inflamed or having some other kind of problem.

>> No.16928060

>>16927981
>eat the onions
>shit in his bed
Problem solved.

>> No.16928067

>>16928060
>>>16927981(You)
>>eat the onions
>>shit in his bed
>Problem solved.


It's more so I get bloated and gassy to hell and then I get constipated for like 2 days, and during those 2 days I am burping and taste raw onions. It literally doesn't digest.

>> No.16928074

>>16927434
Might be diverticulitis

>> No.16928081

what IBS type do you guys have? Unfortunately, I have the type that alternates between constipation and diarrhea :(

>> No.16928085

>>16928081
I think I have this but it's not diagnosed
>Can't shit for three days
>Have diarrhea for a whole day straight

>> No.16928100

>>16927431
I had some pretty nasty stomach problems but I refused to change my diet.
I did however start drinking my morning coffee AFTER breakfast and months of chronic stomach cramping and nausea went away after a few days.
I found out for me, I need a foundation before acidic or spicy foods.

>> No.16928132

>>16928081
>what IBS type do you guys have? Unfortunately, I have the type that alternates between constipation and diarrhea :(
I think I have that one too. One day I will have constipation and barely poop anything. The next day I will be pooping out a small hard poop and then the rest comes out like mud, and it takes forever for it to all come out. takes like 1-2 hours depending on how bad.

>> No.16928135

>>16928100
I'm starting to eat more vegetables and so far I have not had a day with just full on diarrhea. But I have been constipated these past few days.

>> No.16928256

>>16927431
I've been dealing with digestive issues, and for me, a liquid diet of just jello, protein shakes, and veggie juices for a couple weeks allowed me to slowly regain my ability to eat solids again.

>> No.16928864

>>16927431
I had IBS for years and got rid of it in one swoop when I just couldn't take it anymore. In my case I just needed enough willpower to make the hard choices.

Step 1 was to establish that diet could fix it. So I ate nothing but chicken and rice for a week as a test. It worked, after the first few days my poops were perfect. If this didn't work I would have tried something else like fish and potatoes, I dunno, just some kind of bare minimum you can live on for a little bit.
Once I established that safe diet, I just added new foods to it one at a time, logging everything. Step by step I added more ingredients to the whitelist while avoiding foods that consistently caused problems. Still adding stuff, but I've built up a good amount of variety in my diet now, plus I have nearly perfect poops and no more diarrhea at all.

The catch obviously is that you need an iron will, you're basically fucked for eating out or even prepared foods and you have to cook everything from scratch. Hell, until you build up a good whitelist even most recipes are off limits. And if you want to get all the food back you still have to find the root cause and fix it. But so long as you can pass step 1 it does work.

>> No.16928890

>>16928864
What did you find were the trigger foods for you?

>> No.16928908

>>16928890
By FAR the strongest was either wheat or gluten, not sure which as I haven't tested either in isolation. Getting rid of that removed like 90% of my issues. Second worst was actually xanthan gum, which I wasn't expecting. I actually verified that by taking a little alone with water, fucking disgusting but it confirmed it 100%. Baking is difficult.
I have a more mild reaction to lactose, beans, garlic/onions, and other fodmaps, but it's mostly just bloating unless I overdo it. Anyone with IBS should at least look that stuff up though, if only to get ideas of what might bother them.

>> No.16928915

>>16927431
I was in remission for 15 years and then hit rock bottom in 2 months. after 4 years of suffering i got my intestines removed and a bag on my waist. Its hard to cope but at least i dont have explosive diarrhea 10 minutes after eating anything at all and painful gas 20 times a day.

>> No.16928916

>>16927431
You better not be drinking alcohol

>> No.16929223

>>16927431
Ask your mom if you were breastfed or on formula, we develop a gut biome from when we're infants. Really look into it. I had IBS until I had a really bad flu, I basically threw up and shat nonstop for a week which I think emptied my stomach out. Ate a bunch of yogurt and other probiotics/vitamins and it's been smoother sailing. I'm only one case though.

>> No.16929266

>>16928908
>>16928864
desu that sounds like a good idea. Although how long does it usually take you to poop and then how long to wipe?

Also what's a typical day to day diet for you?

>> No.16929274

>>16929223
Not OP but I was originally breastfed then formula after a year cause I never liked breast milk.

I've been eating a lot of greek yogurt recently, some kombucha and looking into kefir currently.

>> No.16929279

>>16927431
Carnivore diet cures IBS.

>> No.16929316

>had constant ibs for most of my life
>about two years ago got horribly sick
>high fever, diarrhea of every color, after a few days couldn't keep solid food down and stopped eating
>shivers and sweats for a week straight
>legitimately thought I would die alone and nobody would find me
>slowly started feeling better and began eating solid food again
>food starts tasting good and poops are normal for the first time in my life
The only thing that sets it off now is random spices. Garlic and cumin are the big ones that I need to avoid.

>> No.16929333

>>16927431
it goes away when you get old. this is how you know it's a fake disease rather than a real one. see also: borderline personality disorder.

t. doctor

>> No.16929337

>>16929266
My poops are great now, they come out nice and long and I barely need to wipe at all. I can just sit, go, and leave in like a few minutes. I never thought I'd ever have a normal digestion again so I'm pretty happy about that desu.

Keep in mind the elimination diet didn't do that right away. Cutting triggers got rid of all my painful cramping and diarrhea almost instantly, which was worth it on its own. But normal considerations still apply, you need a good diet to have great shits. Chicken and rice alone won't do that so I had rabbit or sticky shits on and off at first. Not painful, just not perfect.

I usually eat simple meat starch and veg meals for now. So like steak mash and green beans, or roast chicken carrots and rice, etc. Low-lactose dairy is fine so I'll make cacio e pepe or mac and cheese with gf pasta, lactaid and hard cheeses. I started with just salt and pepper but by now I have a decent collection of safe spices to use, the lack of onion and garlic still fucking hurts though. I still have some gas issues which would probably go away if I dropped carbs completely, but I'm not desperate enough for that yet.

Root cause is still important, I'm pretty sure my issue is my small intestine microbiome is fucked, trying to fix it over time but it'll probably be a slow process.

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16929340

feels good to have healthy guts

>> No.16930046

>>16927431
i have the same thing but its because i drink lots of alcohol every night for years and if i quit for a day or two it goes away lol genes i guess

>> No.16930749

>>16927431
try sashimi and raw vegetables

>> No.16930863

>>16927431
For me, it was about finding what foods gave me the least amount of stomach issues and being very aware of what kind of food I put into my body. I'm just now getting over being bloated, gassy, and having diarrhea for the last few days from eating a large amount of raw onions, so I'll be avoiding onions from now on. I'm already agoraphobic and having any sort of stomach discomfort will prevent me from leaving the house unless I can ensure there will be an easily accessible toilet wherever I'm going, it fucking sucks and I wish I didn't have to eat at all.

>> No.16930961

How do I know I have this ?
t. Feel bloated after eating quite often

>> No.16930969

>>16927431
I hear IBS is very often a misdiagnosis of SIBO
look into getting a bacterial transplant

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>>16927431
If you say tummy as a grown man then there is no hope for you. Might as well castrate or off yourself now, faggot.

>> No.16931305

>>16929337
how do u plan to fix the small intestine? my diet is pretty similar to yours

usually a smoothie of carrots, kale/spinach in the morning with pinapples and melon

then some vegetarian dish, i had chili today with carrots and peppers

end if off with some greek yogurt and 10 almonds

this is a fairly new diet i think the greek yogurt might give me some gas but i am
eating it to hopefully fix my gut biome and. protein.

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16931343

>>16927431
>tfw my shits and cramps were getting real bad and didn't know what to do
>had a blood marker test positive for crohn's
>got a colonoscopy at the ripe old age of 24, they didn't find shit
>told it's IBS
>years later it still comes and goes
>decide fuck it, I'm going to have a huge fuckoff glass of wholemilk before bed with some oreos for an entire week
>suddenly my shits are perfect and cramps are gone

bros what the fuck am I a baby fucking cow? what is this nonsense
>not fat btw, 152 pounds and king of the manlets

oh and for you more literate IBS enjoyers, have a fun article I found years ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2887205/

>> No.16931344

>>16927431
You'll never be able to have a women over unless she's reeeaaally into liquid scat and wants to be the "reciever".

>> No.16931352

>>16930961
Does your farts smell like rotten vegetables? Does your shit consist of 50% liquid, 50% gas? Have you tried to not eat milk protein or gluten to rule out the common allergies with similar shit-related problems as IBS? If it's just sotmach ace without the shits you might just have stomach cancer.

>> No.16931356

>>16931352
or instead of jumping straight to cancer he might have what's much more common and likely, which is a peptic ulcer

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16931361

>>16931356
>peptic ulcer
mmm, tasty

>> No.16931374

>>16931343
i dont quite get what they mean diagnosis of exclusion

but from my own research i heard that IBS is more of a diagnosis they just throw around when they are not sure what your poop problems is and as long as they see no other major issues that could make you more sick.

>> No.16931377

>>16931361
>>16931356
shit not that anon but i think i might have that i cant handle greasy foods like rotisserie chicken without diarrrhea. but i can handle a greasy slice of pizza just fine.

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16931384

>>16931374
that's pretty much what diagnosis of exclusion is, anon.
>well it's probably not celiac, colitis, or crohn's, so fuck it you've got IBS
Well, IBS needs more study because it's currently just what you've described. It's probably an umbrella condition that has many different subcategories, any of which might be able to be treated. We really don't know enough about it.

>> No.16931406

>>16931384
You know i am not a doctor but what we really need to know is why people get certain reactions when eating different types of foods. Like allergies.
I think I recently got a ragweed allergy because my eyes get very bloodshot recently.

But on IBS i know from my own gut I get heavy diarrhea or heavy constipation from eating certain foods.

>> No.16931498

i've suspected i had this for a couple of years. i'm 32 and the past couple of years i've needed to shit three times a day and it takes me like 15-20 minutes per shit. and then for the first two shits which are in the morning, i can go shit again in less than an hour after the first one. i don't -need- to, but if i don't, i'll just feel like shit for the rest of the day, or i'll need to go at some point. my shit's mostly sticky and unsolid, although i still have a regular normal shit from time to time. sounds like the symptoms are similar.
i generally don't eat junk food but i do drink once a week. so far i haven't been able to isolate a root cause even if i've tried to avoid trigger foods. but not eating bread is the one thing i haven't tried
let's say i cut out bread (and all forms of wheat) from my diet. does that mean that i'll gradually lose resistance to it and if i eat wheat at some occasion it'll blow my guts out or will it be easier to digest?

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>>16931352
My symptoms:
No diarrhea whatsoever, no issues with pooping
Smelly farts
light bloat sometimes
hardly feeling full after eating
brain fog sometimes, concentration can be fucked up
fucked up mood, anxiety and depression

Currently trying to avoid eating grains and wheat and going gluten free, Paleo diet

Some meals affect my mood in a weird way
When I was with my parents (like 90% of their diet consists of grain stuff) i felt like going insane: only eating bread, cake, noodles and cereal made me so fucked up and I can't stand eating too much of it

>> No.16931605

>>16927431
have you ever tried fasting or a really restrictive meme diet? Only things I've ever heard of working to cure IBS

>> No.16931681

IBS-D anon reporting; it has completely ruined my life. I can't cook my favorite foods anymore, I can't go out to eat, and I can't drink more than 1-2 beers without getting ill. Tried everything from a low FODMAP diet (biggest issues coming from fructans, in my case, so no onions/garlic), L-Glutamine, psyllium husk, peppermint oil, oregano oil, and digestive enzymes but nothing helps. Please. Someone fix my stupid fucking gut, I look and feel malnourished

>> No.16931689

>>16931681
Forgot to mention the probiotics, they don't work either, though Visbiome and saccharomyces boulardii at least help with the pain

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>>16931681
I assume you've been to a gastro and you got diagnosed IBS-D. If it's been a few years go back and make sure it's not crohn's or celiacs, maybe go to an allergist or a rheumatologist. Otherwise, maybe ask your gastro for some anti spasmodics.

>> No.16931701

>>16931690
Diagnosed through a gastro, they were beyond useless. Blood/stool tests showed nothing wrong. Thinking of going to an endocrinologist next to see if it's an issue with my thyroid or pancreas. I'm fairly confident my issue has to do with a lack of digestive enzymes. They did prescribe dicyclomine, but it doesn't help either.

>> No.16931702

>>16931701
did you get scoped? If not then they absolutely were useless and you should get a 2nd opinion

>> No.16931711

>>16931702
Yes, they found nothing of use aside from some very mild gastritis which was resolved with a PPI. IBS symptoms remained

>> No.16931716

>>16931711
well I mean I'm in the same boat as you. Best you can do is reduce inflammation any way you can, get your endocrines checked, and maybe see if you have some other autoimmune bullshit going on. Other than that, RIP.

>> No.16931720

>>16931716
Best of luck, anon and thanks for hearing me out. This is hell for me, but at least we're not in hell alone.

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>>16931720
there is some solace in the fact that everything you eat makes you blow your ass out on a regular basis. It means that you can just eat whatever you want and never worry about gaining weight! Consequences be damned, I'm eating this double 5 guys burger, large fries, and chocolate shake with oreos in it, and I'm gonna destroy my office toilet later, but fuck me I'm hungry PISSED at my BOWELS

>> No.16932089
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>>16931498
>let's say i cut out bread (and all forms of wheat) from my diet. does that mean that i'll gradually lose resistance to it and if i eat wheat at some occasion it'll blow my guts out or will it be easier to digest?
If you're allergic to it then the symptoms will probably be more severe when you try it again if your system was able to start healing. When I cut out wheat for a month and then tried it again my symptoms seemed worse. I woke up in the middle of the night after eating a small dish of pasta because my joints were starting to hurt and I had a little trouble walking for a couple days. I also had diarrhea the next day that burned really badly. It was still worth it to figure out that I shouldn't be eating it though and I still feel a bit better now.

These are the most common food allergies so you might want to try cutting them all out if possible for a few weeks. Then try one thing on the list on its own and wait 8 hours or so to see if any symptoms appear.

>> No.16932097

>>16931529
>Smelly farts
>light bloat sometimes
>hardly feeling full after eating
>brain fog sometimes, concentration can be fucked up
>fucked up mood, anxiety and depression
A lot of this sounds like it could just be from eating too many carbs and not enough fat/protein. I don't think carbs are inherently bad but I've felt similarly after eating too many without enough fat and protein. Carbs are also a good food source for bacteria in your digestive system which can be a good thing but also produce gas, especially something like beans. But it doesn't sound like you have IBS or something like that since you don't have any issues pooping.

After doing an elimination diet, I tried eating some nuts again and started to feel kind of sick and dizzy. So it's possible you might be allergic to something though if you really feel like you have brain fog bad enough sometimes. But I've also felt that way after just not getting enough fat and protein, like my stomach would be full but instead of focusing on something else I'd just be thinking about eating a bit of meat/cheese/eggs instead.

>> No.16932114

>>16931343
>the inability to let go

I wish I could, every interaction with someone my brain tries to dissect. Also it goes over times that I wasn't socially aware and cringes daily. I have to keep telling my shit brain that if I didn't go through that I wouldn't have learned social cues. but god it's tiring.

>> No.16932165

>>16931681
try inflammation reducing enzymes like serrapeptase and nattokinase. they also get rid of unneeded protein build up (like scars/blood clots) and some sufferers of IBS have excess fibrin in that area

>> No.16932269

>>16932097
Thx for your input
I'll also try intermittent fasting again, made me feel very good sometimes

>> No.16932316

>>16927873
IBS can be treated with antidepressants. I'd go back (to someone else preferably, who knows what they're talking about)

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>>16930863
>"I'm already agoraphobic and having any sort of stomach discomfort will prevent me from leaving the house unless I can ensure there will be an easily accessible toilet wherever I'm going"
>"I wish I didn't have to eat at all"
[spoiler]no joke I dropped out of college because of this. It was getting to the point where I would have to get up multiple times during the same lecture to take consecutive runny shits.

>> No.16932548

>>16932089
ah shit eggs and fish are a possibility? fuck my life. i eat eggs almost every day. but thanks for the info, that sounds brutal. fucking joint pain? i'll try cutting out wheat. if it ain't wheat it must be eggs. are minimal amounts of wheat like however much flour you'd use to thicken up a stew fine?

>> No.16932732

>>16932548
>are minimal amounts of wheat like however much flour you'd use to thicken up a stew fine?
It depends if you have an allergy or just an intolerance. Food intolerance usually means you only get some digestive issues if you eat too much of something so then a little bit of flour might be fine. If you try it and get digestive issues but also other symptoms like a rash or joint pain or dizziness then you probably have an actual allergy and need to completely avoid it altogether, as even small amounts could still be damaging your digestive system or lead to worse reactions later on.

>> No.16932876

>>16927431
Brother I don't know what variety of IBS you have but if you look up low glycemic index foods and only eat those, stay away from grains, sugar, and milk; and for drinks, alcohol and coffee, you could probably heal your stomach.
also get some fucking supplements cause you sound like you're gonna die
>probiotics
>mastic gum (heals the stomach lining)
>sunflower lecithin (protects the stomach lining)
>marshmallow herb infusion (adds mucus to the stomach)
>cordyceps (antiinflamatory)
Kelly Brogan has pretty good resources on the subject, and there's another keto-esque diet out there that focuses more on the glycemic index rather than just carbs, called GAPS.
>>16929279
alternatively this

>> No.16932886

>>16932316
>food allergy causes massive inflammation in the nervous system, leading to depression and other mental illness
>puts a bandaid on the problem
doneskies

>> No.16932896

>>16931498
>does that mean that i'll gradually lose resistance to it and if i eat wheat at some occasion it'll blow my guts out or will it be easier to digest?
yes

>> No.16933002

>>16928033
>Fecal transplants
These have been shown to cure IBS completely , its one of the most common uses

>> No.16933011

>>16933002
actually but not really maybe we don't know......

For real though they work but also don't. It's likely a treatment for some specific people but again, not a silver bullet

>> No.16933034

Man I think I need to try an elimination diet. I was denied assistance through the ACA for health insurance last night so going to actually get checked out and diagnosed is off the table; thanks, America.

My farts smell awful. I bloat like crazy. Pooping goes from normal solid logs, to clumps, to watery piles, to mud... Not in that order but it varies widely how I'm going to poop. This started probably a year and a half ago. Some days I'm fine with no bloating, other days I'm lying in bed farting non-stop. I've not had any weight loss and it seems isolated to GI issues so I really doubt it's stomach or colon cancer. I'm thinking IBS, Crohn's or an intolerance to one of more things. All I know is that I hate it, it's made my life awful, and I might blow my brain out one night.

>> No.16933043

>>16927431
Low fodmap has helped a lot. Pretty much never bothered by my stomach anymore

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>>16927431
try to eliminate all FODMAPS for at least 2 weeks, then reintroduce them one at a time to identify which is it that cause the most symptoms. yes that means eliminating most vegetables, legumes and fruits, even those commonly believed to be "healthy". in doubt, don't eat it.
>FODMAPs are a group of commonly malabsorbed carbohydrates (sugars and fibers) that are especially hard to digest.

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>>16928915
oh fuck, that's gotta suck. did the docs change your meds or something? I hear that's common for crohnnies after being taken off remicade
>>16931681
>>16933034
Do you have Crohn's? how many times per day do you shit? If it's over 4 and theres blood and mucous it's probably UC or Crohn's.


For 4 months I tried the elimination diet after always having to shit. and that wasn't working. Literally nothing I ate or avoided would help. I noticed some things made my poops more frequent and much worse. Things like nuts and veggies (I still avoid them).

After pooping 4-7 times a day, usually with mucous or blood, and getting some abscesses (confirmed through an MRI scan) I was put on Inflectra (lots of other meds initially).

I fucking love modern medicine. I don't have to die at age 24 cus of it!!!! WEEEEEEWHOO!!

>> No.16933314

>>16933289
this is a meme. I tried it for 2 weeks, and the second of those two weeks I avoid ALL grass family foods (a dumb faggot chink allergist suggested it after my allergy test).

I wanted to cry at the store cus there was nothing I could buy to eat. Thank FUCK i was finally diagnosed with Crohn's after 6 months of shitting my innards out.

I told this to my GI doctor and he said diet doesn't fix the issue. Liquid diets (boosts and ensures) are cited to work ok with children however.

I am
>>16933300
btw

>> No.16933317

>>16932886
>Hey I'm having trouble living with a lifelong, uncurable condition
"Would you like something that makes it easier to cope with?"
>NO >:(

>> No.16933346

>>16932316
>IBS can be treated with antidepressants. I'd go back (to someone else preferably, who knows what they're talking about)
What kind of delusional reality do you life in? Just.. yikes.

>> No.16933354

I sip on kefir or whole milk throughout the day, lots of soups. If it's particularly bad I cram 3 shots of vodka down my throat to numb the pain.

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>>16933354
Now!!! What are you waiting for!?? take the antidepressants!!! NOW!

>> No.16933374

>>16933370
Who are you talking to schizo?

>> No.16933384

>work and sleep schedule makes me unable to eat for 12 hours straight most days
>one (1) piece of any kind of food or a sip of fucking bottled water causes instant gut cramping hell pain and shitting
love it

>> No.16933387

>>16933374
I'm mocking the absolute banana brain anon
>>16932316

>> No.16933389

>>16933387
I'll mock your asshole if you don't shut up

>> No.16933395

how many of you have had gallbladder issues or had it outright removed?

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>>16927431
i just shit all over without thinking about, like a proper negroid humanoid would

>> No.16933436

>>16933384
>get stomach cramps from not eating
>eat a bite of anything
>stomach cramps are now 500x worse
Some days I genuinely consider suicide because of it. If it were just gnarly shits maybe I could suffer through it with some powerful antinaseua meds but knowing every time I eat is going to feel like getting knifed in the kidneys is unbearable. Nothing but endless hunger and stomach pains with no solution

>> No.16933505

>>16933389
ya, right. you mean if I dont drive over you with my van first

>> No.16933514

>>16933505
Good luck I weigh 32,000lb.

>> No.16933525

>>16933300
i went through like 5 meds after remicade developed antibodies and nothing working
>entyvio
>stelara
>humira
>2 experimental drugs

after 4 years i got the bag surgery but it was too late. i look like i aged 10 years in 4, and ive developed crohns in my small intestine too :(

>> No.16933573

>>16933514
you should take some SSRIs and fix that

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>>16933525
my sincerest condolences. this is one of my biggest fears. I'm on Inflectra right now and nothing else. Doctor took me off MTX because it was increasing my ATP levels too much and it stressed me out. Really not good for you.

Were you taking anything to help supress antibodies?

Also how do you cope?

I'm in my early 20s and fuck as many women as I can because I know this disease will eat my ass for breakfast later and I won't be looking this great after.

>> No.16933683

Any thoughts on BPC-157? Was looking into it to help with a bone break and saw suggestions that it could help with digestive issues.

>> No.16933708

>>16933656
i was on pred for 4 years straight which is a huge 'never do this' situation. it made me bloat up in the face and caused me osteopenia but it was the ONLY thing keeping me from having dehabilitatign ass pains (95% of my crohns is in the colon/rectal area) which felt like passing glass every 2 hours.

i found a gf who was with me when i was having a decent passible time, when i told her i was getting worse and i needed a poop bag she stayed with me through it all. our relationship is rocky now for other reasons but its not easy to cope knowing i will probably never find another girl once they know i have a bag on my abdomen. i have a laundry list of deficiencies and honestly some days i have to tell myself, i just may not live to 60.

>> No.16933772

>>16933436
Which side are the pains on? For me it's on the left side just under the ribs and seems like it's a post-poop thing, so presumably it's my descending colon. I went on a liquid diet for weeks, not pooping at all, and the pains seemed to slowly go away. I gradually increase grains, start pooping again, things seem fine. Then I go a bit too heavy on the corn flakes, have an absolutely massive series of shits, and the pains come back, which went away again after a low-fiber diet.

>> No.16933782

>>16933708
>was on pred for 4 years straight
shit dude, I did that for the famous 2 month taper and my joints never stopped cracking.

>>16933708
>passing glass every 2 hours.
I know the feeling.

>>16933708
> i just may not live to 60.
does this fact ever get to you?

>> No.16933809

>>16933656
>I'm in my early 20s and fuck as many women as I can because I know this disease will eat my ass for breakfast later
Based outlook.

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>>16933314
>I wanted to cry at the store cus there was nothing I could buy to eat.
it's not supposed to be a long term diet baka. it's very restrictive at first, then you introduce food groups back one by one. just pick stuff from the right column.
>breakfast: banana, oatmeal, handful of almonds
>lunch: chicken, lettuce, tomato, and quinoa salad
>dinner: fish, brown rice, bowl of berries

>> No.16933824

>>16927431
Psilocybin. It made my body go from incel to chad

>> No.16933836

>>16933708
I can't imagine how hard it must be but for the love of god put aside any of your issues and baggage and treat that gf like a goddess. You can't lose her because as you know there probably won't be another. Give her whatever she wants or needs, you don't want to be alone.

>> No.16933838

>>16933782
i was single for most of my life until i was 28. i had alwats figured id just live my life until something happened to me, my hobbies kept me optimistic. now that im with a girl who i will probably marry someday, i have serious concerns about having a child with as sick as i might become. 1 because i dont want to give him crohns that young - i got it when i was 12 which was bad but at least i was old enough to deal with it and 2 i dont want to be that dad that dies when the kid is 15 and gives him no solid future.
i will preface though, i get anxiety about a lot of stuff so there's a chance everything will be fine but i still worry about it.

>> No.16933882

Any digestive issues anons get vaxxed and notice any effects/changes? I had some general issues going back four years prior (starting age 27) but always had them under pretty good control until I got the first Moderna shot in June. By severely restricting my diet I've been able to at least be functional again but I've never gotten back to my pre-jab levels.

>> No.16933963

>>16929316
ffs, you were cured by getting a fever? Did you ever find out what it was?

>> No.16934051

>>16931746
>I'm gonna destroy my office toilet later
This. Why do people bother fighting this disease when it has so many useful applications.

>> No.16934059

>>16932316
>suffer from ibs
>take antidepressants
>become school shooter
>feelsmuchbetter.jpg

>> No.16934071

>>16932316
there's a hypothesis that depression is just another type of low grade inflammatory disease, and the mechanisms that antidepressants work with actually address that in some roundabout way. It's possible they do the same thing for IBS

>> No.16934073

>>16931681
I feel bad for you man, i read your story and i have issues with my poop too. sometimes i eat a lot of shitty food and suffer the consequences tomorrow, like i ate a whole pizza today. I think this all formed because i overate and binged eat a lot then kept trying to poop it all out the next day.

I dont know man. maybe it was the meds i took when i was younger.

I hate ibs

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>>16934073
>tfw I took solodyn (low grade antibiotic to treat chronic cystic acne) and also applied retinoids to my face when I was 16-20
>stopped the solodyn and face creams b/c acne went away
>now get mild acne flareups and IBS at the same time
I blame the antibiotics for fucking up my gut flora permanently. I have no proof but this is my truth

>> No.16934099

>>16933573
>>16933370

>> No.16934110

>>16934093
I remember taking retinoids when I was younger too, although for the most part it cleared my acne but I had to adjust my diet to basically eat no dairy products, or fast food.
Also I meticulously washed my clothes and sheets maybe twice a week since that would flare up my acne if I didn't or if I didn't shower often enough( usually twice a day).

This might have been the beginning of my IBS before I had IBS. I also did start anxiety meds before this which may have aggravated my acne.

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>>16934110
honestly it's more likely to a comorbidity. As in people who end up developing IBS later also had acne issues. Same thing with anxiety. Gut-brain biome axis and all that shit. God I love hypochondria

>> No.16934140

>>16934093
>>16934110
Skin sores are a common early sign for Crohn's. My brother has severe Crohn's and had unusual cystic-like spots all over his body around when he turned 16. Most of it went away by 18 or so but his GI issues went downhill from that point forward.

>> No.16934150

>>16927431
Go no salt, no alcohol after like a month your gut should be normal.

>> No.16934158

>>16933011
False
We know it works nearly every single time

>> No.16934169

>>16934123
>honestly it's more likely to a comorbidity. As in people who end up developing IBS later also had acne issues. Same thing with anxiety. Gut-brain biome axis and all that shit. God I love hypochondria
we were rigged from the start werent we fren
>>16934140
>Skin sores are a common early sign for Crohn's. My brother has severe Crohn's and had unusual cystic-like spots all over his body around when he turned 16. Most of it went away by 18 or so but his GI issues went downhill from that point forward.
I mean I had bad acne but I don't know if it was skin sores. I actually went to a dermatoligist for it and he agreed it was acne.

I googled it and holy shit it looks nasty. I hate acne holy fuck. maybe I should get tested for crohns.

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>>16934169
the only real test for Crohn's is a colonoscopy wherein they biopsy some of your tissue. The blood marker tests have really high false positive rates and are only there to give a GP the *hint* of an idea that you might have Crohn's. Pray you don't have it, the long term implications for people with Crohn's are fucking awful.
>fistulas
>abscesses
>much higher rates of colon cancer
and then the treatments, which are universally different types of immunosuppressants will make you deathly scared of getting a fucking strep infection, because it can literally kill you.
I mean, the treatments are getting better over time but they haven't really changed too much since monoclonal antibodies became the hot thing to give to patients. Immunology is a fucked up field and needs some serious talent thrown at it but everything got diverted over the past couple years for obvious reasons

>> No.16934213

>>16934198
HOLY FUCK I will absolutely feel like necking if I hear I have this.

Like holy fuck if its going to get worse from here I feel like there's barely a point in playing this whole life game.

>> No.16934216

>>16927434
Exactly. It can be anything. I will throw in parasites.

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>>16934213
It's pretty awful but the alternative to not treating is to suffer untreated Crohn's which, well, is worse than not treating it. People DO go into long periods of remission thanks to treatments, and hopefully as research progresses it'll get better. That said, it's a shitty disease. (lol, get it? poop!)

>> No.16934231

>>16934221
you are so cute anon. I kinda want to cuddle with you.

>> No.16934239

>>16927431
have you tried infecting yourself with hookworms to give your immune system something else to attack rather than your digestive tract? It's a legitimate method that many people claim to have success with

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>>16934231
thanks bro but I might shit myself because I had a spicy chicken sandwich for dinner from chick fil A so I'm gonna have to take a rain check
>>16934239
we watched a documentary on this in parasitology during our discussion on the hygiene hypothesis and well, it's kind of bunk. It works temporarily because the worms do secrete anti-immune chemicals to hide from the immune system, but in the end the body adjusts back to square one, and others end up worse than before in their disease progression. None of the worm treatments have gotten past early stages in clinical trials for that reason.

>> No.16934264

>>16934258
>thanks bro but I might shit myself because I had a spicy chicken sandwich for dinner from chick fil A so I'm gonna have to take a rain check
that's ok I am available whenever. there's no need to act like that though I am pretty good at cuddles.

>> No.16934279

gotta reset your gut bacteria, nuke it with antibiotics (something you probably did before) and then take everything probiotic you can get your hands on for about a week. Yes: sauerkraut, probiotic pills, yogurt, etc.

Had celiac for 4 years until that point.

>> No.16934284

>>16934279
>gotta reset your gut bacteria, nuke it with antibiotics (something you probably did before) and then take everything probiotic you can get your hands on for about a week. Yes: sauerkraut, probiotic pills, yogurt, etc.
>
>Had celiac for 4 years until that point.

should I just eat that for the entire day and avoid any non-probiotic food?

>> No.16934288

>>16934279
just so you know if you fuck this up you can just end up killing literally all the good bacteria in your gut, leaving behind antibiotic-resistant harmful strains that will fuck your bowel disease up even further.

Best case is to find some clinical trial that's doing this and hope for the best

>> No.16934298

>>16934288
>just so you know if you fuck this up you can just end up killing literally all the good bacteria in your gut, leaving behind antibiotic-resistant harmful strains that will fuck your bowel disease up even further.
how can you mess it up?

>> No.16934316

>>16927466
I find coffee to be a helpful tool. My stomach's gonna be upset anyway, so might as well drink some french press and get the nightmare toilet session over with in the morning.

>> No.16934320

>>16934298
taking the wrong dose of antibiotics, the wrong type, not taking them long enough, not eating correctly while doing so. There are a myriad of other risk factors that I can't even name because who the fuck knows exactly what goes into gut microbiome health. Even if you were to do all those things correctly, there's basically a guarantee that some type of bacteria in your gut is resistant to the antibiotics you took, and those will likely thrive, potentially leading to a bacterial overgrowth even if they're the good kind. There's a reason this treatment isn't prevalent, and it's because it's not guaranteed to work. I'm glad it worked for that anon but really, it's not advisable to do this at all.

>> No.16934413

>>16934320
>all this fear mongering yet defends clinical trials
Hi big pharma.

>> No.16934426

>>16934320
>I'm glad it worked for that anon but really, it's not advisable to do this at all.
do u have any studies on this that I can read cookbro

i've been eating a lot of greek yogurt and kombucha lately but thats not all i eat in a day,

>> No.16934468

>>16934316
Are you sure coffee isn't the problem? I didn't change anything else except no longer having coffee and eventually noticed an improvement but it was like 4 months before the diarrhea stopped. I don't know why coffee messed me up that badly.

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>>16934426
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4716021/
https://journals.lww.com/ajg/Abstract/2011/04000/Antibiotic_Therapy_in_Inflammatory_Bowel_Disease_.14.aspx
here are a couple somewhat recent studies from a cursory google scholar search. Basically
>highly specific types of antibiotics might work and deserve further study
note the complications include basically the things that I mentioned before.
Also, much of the knowledge I'm going off is from a 2017 lancet journal on gastroenterology that focused entirely on bowel disease, so if you can find that, I highly recommend reading it. I've been too busy until this year to really try to read up on the topic again.

>>16934413
not trying to fearmonger, just pointing out that you can't just chug amoxicillin and expect your gut to suddenly reset. This isn't a juice cleanse, it's a hugely complex ecosystem living in your body and you need to try to be as specific as possible when it comes to such a significant portion of your health.

>> No.16934497

>>16934472
>Also, much of the knowledge I'm going off is from a 2017 lancet journal on gastroenterology that focused entirely on bowel disease, so if you can find that, I highly recommend reading it. I've been too busy until this year to really try to read up on the topic again.
damn you are a smart anon.
im going to name you mr smarty pants. from now on i think you should name yourself that until you stop posting on ck so I can give you a hug everytime I see you.

>>16934472
also maybe we can experiment gut biomes like we do with mushroom biomes and adjusting their temp indoors like we do with our guts.

>> No.16934503

>>16927431
>IBS
IBS is just a way for doctors to say stomach pain without figuring out what it is. Keep a food diary of what you eat and look at when the pain increases etc. You're probably have an intolerance to a common incredient in food.

I went through the same thing for 4 years until I was diagnosed as a Coeliac. I wouldn't wish it on anyone, it's a total dream killer.

>> No.16934518

>>16934468
I only started drinking it a few years ago, and I think it's been a net improvement. I still have diarrhea every day, but it's a bit more predictable now.
The two biggest things that have helped me suffer less are probably morning coffee and a bidet.

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diapers. furries make really good ones that can contain four, maybe even five big shits

>> No.16934536

>>16934279
>Had celiac for 4 years until that point.
>Had
are you saying you cured it? was it diagnosed or did you just have problems after eating wheat? because that sounds more like you just had trouble digesting something since celiac is an allergic reaction to protein.

fasting and cutting out all carbs for a little bit is probably a safer way to lower the amount of bacteria in your digestive system in an attempt to get rid of some of the bad stuff though. doctors were never much help for me but i think i'd rather try to get some kind of testing done that proves i have a problem with bacteria and need antibiotics instead of messing around with them on my own.

>> No.16934544

>>16934536
heroin CURES celiac

>> No.16934557

>>16934497
regardless of whether you're bullshitting I'm just trying to get info out that's usually gatekept by academic institutions. IBS isn't given much time in the research world because it's not as severe as IBD, which barely gets any attention in the first place. Also please don't try to adjust the temperature of your bowels, anon. That's probably not a good idea
>>16934544
well opioids do cause constipation so at the very least you won't shit yourself while you're shooting up

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>>16934557
>well opioids do cause constipation
bros what if the cure to all gut problems is just shitloads of Lean™

>> No.16934586

>>16934557
>regardless of whether you're bullshitting I'm just trying to get info out that's usually gatekept by academic institutions.
I'm not bullshitting. I think you are pretty cool anon. Although I am busy waging I will probably take a gander at the links you gave. I agree IBS/IBD is not really bothered to be looked at which is fucked up like how the hell do you not want good shits and just to take 5 minutes or less shits.

i mean i meant more so like not temperature, well maybe that might do something but Idk. But more so like growing plants, you need certain minerals, and nutrients on it for it to flourish. Maybe our guts are the same way. Also I take 2 hour poops sometimes due to IBS and it sucks, everyday, every morning.

I would like it if you put Mr Smarty Pants in your 4chinz name if you could.

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>>16934518
I see. If you feel it helps then just keep doing that. Have you ever tried tea instead though? I felt like tea made me poop but never gave me diarrhea. I actually noticed an improvement when eating chocolate though. But it has to be a good high percentage chocolate bar with as little sugar as you can stand, or making hot chocolate just with cocoa powder. I'm guessing it's because chocolate is fermented and digests slowly but it made me start having solid poops again. Have to be careful though because too much can quickly be constipating.

If you seem to have diarrhea all the time no matter what though and you've eliminated any specific foods as a cause, you could try doing a basic low residue diet which minimizes how much you have to poop. By getting rid of a lot of fiber and harder to digest foods.

>> No.16934616

tfw no ibs bf to feed mild foods but also occasionally put in diapers "just in case" (actually its for my fetish (but i will cook mild dishes for u))

>> No.16934618

>>16934616
mommy

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>>16934586
ty anon but I'm not gonna make a trip so I can post about IBS on /ck/. that said I'm sure that there's some type of root cause for some bacterial imbalance like pH, enzymes, etc, that probably have an impact. How'd you actually do anything about it, I'm not really sure. I know people take proton pump inhibitors like prilosec and nexium to reduce acid, to help with heartburn, so maybe that might be a thing for gut health too? idk.

Oh, and a lot of this shit is just tied to immune system horseshittery. The intestinal wall has immune cells out the ass (because there are so many bacteria in there, you don't want to let anything bad through) and if some of them malfunction you can develop things like lactose intolerance or other food allergies. Not much you can do about it once your body decides you're allergic besides insane allergy treatments. Honestly fuck immune systems.

>>16934577
I'm half inclined to run a trial on this myself

>> No.16934647

>>16927431
Sometimes I wonder how my digestive system isn't destroyed after all the alcohol abuse.

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>>16934618
>mommy
nah son


>>16934628
gucci mane's autobiography notes that he gained a ton of weight and shit real bad every time he went to prison as a result of no longer being on The™ Lean® but would resume good health like a week after either quitting or RESTARTING the opioids

>>16934647
beer shits arent a problem theyre a solution. more specifically it's your body returning to mostly normal after being dehydrated, unable to take up more water, and having digestion stimulated, on top of your inevitably bad dietary choices after drinking

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>>16934656
>the gangster life didn't choose me, and I didn't choose it either. My gut microbiome did. Pass me my cup

>> No.16934685

>>16934628
>ty anon but I'm not gonna make a trip so I can post about IBS on /ck/.
to be honest i'd love to see you on other threads. you seem like a very well driven person. i'd love to hug you.

>> No.16934694

>>16934628
>>16934685
>tfw no ibs bf to encourage into drug abuse and diaper fetishism

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>>16934694

>> No.16934712

>>16934694
get out of me and mr. smart pants love circle.

>> No.16934715

>>16934698
>>16934712
you WILL drink the lean and you WILL get powdered and pampered

>> No.16934718

>>16934715
MR SMARTY PANTS IS MINE

>>16934698
>>16934698
>>16934698
>>16934698
MR SMARTY PANTS COME HERE AND KISS ME

>> No.16934728

>>16934656
Until the shits come out mostly water, and yellow water at that.

>> No.16934735

>>16934728
do you mean heroin shits or beer shits? my beer shits are always really dark

also watery yellow shits means the diapers will work better so thats A+ either wya

>> No.16934753

>>16934735
Well it wasn't beer it was whiskey usually. Like 8-15 shots a night.

>> No.16934766

>>16934753
i wager my beer shits are dark since i tend to eat a lot of junk food when i drink. definitely watery, but throw some sand in there and you've got potting soil. the liquid can be yellowish but what do you expect, poop isnt actually brown, theres a lot of translucent stuff in there that only makes brown dark turds when compressed and solid

>> No.16934807

>>16927431
Eat one meal a day of mostly meat and potato or rice with some salad and tomato. Eat at night shit in the morning live a normal life.

>> No.16934870

>>16931305
>i think the greek yogurt might give me some gas
That's probably the lactose, it's a fodmap and can cause issues even if you're not normally lactose intolerant. I also have issues with yogurt and unfortunately they didn't get better, so I'd watch out if I were you. I had to drop commercial yogurt from my diet after I realized I always had problems with it.
Fortunately, I had a major breakthrough by making my own yogurt with lactose-free milk, it's quite easy. You get all the probiotics and protein without any downsides, and no additives that can bother your gut either. In fact, it's easier to use than normal milk since those milks are usually ultra-pasteurized so you can skip the boiling.
If you try it I recommend fairlife since it has extra protein which makes the yogurt come out nice and thick, I don't bother straining it.

>> No.16935032

Through trial and error I've discovered my body literally wants the opposite of any official "healthy" recommendations.

>whole grains = misery, a tiny of serving of oats made me feel like shit all day
>white rice is okay especially short grain aka the emptiest carbs imaginable
>leafy greens mess me up but potatoes are fine
>meat digests great, way better than veg
>fatty cuts of meat are better than lean cuts, hell I can even have some whole grains if I have it in a meal with greasy pork.
>refined sugar is great but honey is risky

My guts are literally fucking contrarian.

>>16932548
>are minimal amounts of wheat like however much flour you'd use to thicken up a stew fine?
If you have issues with wheat, there is absolutely no reason to use flour to thicken a stew, whether you can tolerate it or not. There are so many other ways to thicken that work better, like a cornstarch slurry.
If you really need a roux, try sweet (short-grain) rice flour instead, it works just like flour for making sauces like bechamel etc.
The gluten in wheat flour is only really critical for baking, not cooking.

>> No.16935470

>>16934870
thank you anon ill see if i can try doing this

>> No.16935473

>>16934807
my stomach needs more time to digest. if i eat at night i wont shit anything next morning

>> No.16935562

>>16929333
t. physician here
ever notice how IBS, fibromyalgia, sleep disorders, and anxiety disorders run in the same circle?

>> No.16935654

I have had issues for the longest time and i don’t know what it is, doctors have done all these tests. I got food poising in Mexico and had the worst symptoms for like 2 days, but ever since, I haven’t been able to eat the same as before and I have pain in my side and poop irregularity. At this point I’m just chalking it up to I’ve acquired IBS. Anyone have a similar situation or story?

>> No.16935669

>>16935654
no but i binge ate a lot for a while. usually it would give me diarrhea the next day after. i am assuming have a lot of diarrhea lie that is offsetting our poops from what i see in the thread. maybe we pooped out important stuff.

>> No.16935687

>>16935654
Left side or right? It's left side for me but right side for my brother with Crohn's

>> No.16935700

>>16935669
>maybe we pooped out important stuff.
Yeah I think that's possible. You probably want to try eating stuff with probiotic bacteria but also with fiber so that it'll slow down digestion a little bit to give the good bacteria some more time. Plain yogurt with bananas might be good. I had some improvements after eating some unsweetened chocolate, which most people probably won't like but maybe an 85% cacao bar would help. Raw sauerkraut is good too if you can get or make that.

>> No.16935748

>>16927434
ITS NOT LUPUS

>> No.16935796

>>16935687
Right side, what does that mean?

>> No.16935823

>>16935654
>mexico
latin Americans have a strange disease, mostly unknown to the West, called "empacho". you ate their food and now you are accursed with it forever.

>> No.16935850

>>16935796
Means it's probably at the ascending colon or possibly the ileum

>> No.16935863

>>16927431
I have it. Doctors gave anti depressants to help (idk)

Do the fodmap diet. Don't try n avoid it like I did for so long. Two weeks you feel no different then magically you are completely normal by the 15th day. Strict fodmap diet. Then afterwards slowly add back in foods
>>16932316
Do not fucking do this. They prescribe SSRIs the absolute worst for your mental health and emotionally dull you. Make you depressed but have you slowly not notice it

>>16928864
Based

Fodmap also fixed a ton inside. Less anxious and generally happier, less irritated. Also worth noting I knew I had celiac prior to trying this diet so gluten was off from the get go

>> No.16935878

>>16935823
What caused it was the water, I ate at a Carl’s Jr. and had a Coca Cola with ice cubes, and I’m assuming it was the ice cubes that melted and did it.

>> No.16935941

>>16935878
the comment about water, in addition to the pain being on the right side reminds me of something I read about the appendix. for North Americans and West Europeans the appendix is a bullshit shrinked up organ that does nothing but fuck up for no reason. but in developing country it is much larger and is essential in making them tolerate shit food and shit water. maybe ou fucked up your appendix, or your useless north american appendix gave up because of the shit food. right side could also be liver, maybe you done given yourself hepatitis A to Z

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>>16935941
this is why I give my self food poisoning every 6 months. It helps to grow my appendix. Many doctors have complimented me on its size. They say "wow, your appendix has such girth! how did you accomplish this?" And I respond with a sly wink and say "that's my secret, young man!"

Ahh. Anyways, I have crippling bowel disease now and will likely wear a colostomy bag. Do not eat at chilis unless you're trying to grow your appendix, specifically the bean dip.

>> No.16936143

>>16935953
> Ahh. Anyways, I have crippling bowel disease now and will likely wear a colostomy bag.
I laughed so fucking hard at this that I have tears in my eyes, and my ribs are now in pain. Thank you for being so hilarious, holy fuck

>> No.16936602

brehs sometimes if i drink a lot of water - like 3-4 glasses within 15 minutes of each other, i get stomach rumbles and the urge to shit. does this happen to anyone else? i realize i drink more water than most but i'm curious.

>> No.16936922

>>16936602
Happens to me too, it's worse if it's sparkling water

>> No.16936934
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16936934

I've developed lactose intolerance but I made a shit tonne of macaroni cheese and it's really tasty but I don't want to destroy my toilet
Does anyone else have any experience suddenly developing lactose intolerance in your early 20s? I love cheese so much bros, I don't want to give this up. But I spent an hour on the toilet this morning.

>> No.16936945

>>16936934
All my issues started in my early 20's as well. Over the span of a couple months I was suddenly unable to eat anything with fructans in it. For what it's worth, there's a lot of varieties of cheese that are low in lactose, plus lactase is widely available to help with digestion. There inulinase for fructans, but I've only seen that in one supplement

>> No.16937039

>>16936934
Supposedly lactose intolerant people can have about 12g of lactose before symptoms start appearing, so try just eating small amounts of it. Like the other poster said, most harder cheeses have almost no lactose so you should still be able to eat them. Instead of using milk for mac and cheese, you could try using a lactose-free milk, or use beer instead which is commonly paired with cheese for that kind of stuff too.

>> No.16937046

>>16937039
Yeah, I could try that, welsh rarebit style. Honestly I'm just mad. I love cheese so much. It's my favourite food. It definitely does take eating something like a fat bowl of macaroni cheese before I get the shits though.

>> No.16937057

>>16937046
>Honestly I'm just mad.
As you should be, this shit is soul-destroying lmao. I can thankfully have dairy, but I'd give anything for a good spicy curry or mapo tofu. Life without garlic sucks

>> No.16937060

>>16937057
Oh man you're right, that sucks. I don't know what I'd do if I had to give up mapo tofu, that's my favourite dish.

>> No.16937069

>>16937046
You'd have to eat like 5 pounds of cheddar cheese for it to equal the amount of lactose in just 8 oz of milk so you probably don't have to worry about cheese. But you might want to be more careful with stuff like cottage cheese or cream cheese that will have more lactose.

>> No.16937089

>>16937057
Can you stomach asafetida? It's a potent onion/garlic replacement and used in small quantities. It's also allegedly supposed to reduce gas.

>> No.16937107

>>16937089
Looks like it's low fodmap, it's used heavily in ayurvedic diets as a way to cheat and get flavor without consuming alliums and the side effects they have.

>> No.16937117

>>16937089
Yeah, I actually use it fairly often. It has a very strong smell before cooking. It tastes good but unfortunately it's just not the same.

>> No.16937578

Take 2kg of beets and slice them. Put in an 8liter jar and pour over that 1.5% salt brine. Screw on a lid with an airlock and let ferment for at least two weeks. Drink a cup twice a day. Do the same with cabbage.
This cured my ibs bruh.

>> No.16937720

>>16927431
I have crohns it sucks. I eat once every 2 - 3 days. I have a couple of shots of whisky before eating so I can stomach it. If my food is not digested by the time I wake up I projectile vomit the rest. Shit life

>> No.16937730

>>16927431
I had IBS-M for 3 years after a bad round of Antibiotics. I went to the best doctors in Boston (Harvard, BU, Beth-israel etc.) and they did absolutely fucking NOTHING for me. It got so bad I had to drop out of school for a bit. Here's what I did.

Via Positiva / what to add
1) Probiotics - Pills are fine, natural is better
> Raw Kefir
> Kombucha
> Raw Milk
> Sauerkraut and pickled foods
2) Bone Broth - this shit has collagen and vitamins/minerals that are known to restore your gut lining. I drank this every day or put it in a soup for dinner and my gut hasnt seen a bad day since

Via Negativa / what to take out
1) seed oils - fuck you up hard and destroy your gut lining stay far the fuck away from canola oil, soybean oil etc. Replace everything with coconut/tallow/butter/lard
2) Sugar - do not eat processed sugar it destroys the good bacteria in your gut.

You can look all of this stuff up, im too lazy to, but the takeaway is this:
1) NEVER TRUST DOCTORS
2) DO NOT TRUST "OFFICIAL" HEALTH RESOURCES - Harvard public health eating guidelines will make your IBS so bad you cant handle it. I am speaking from experience
3) Eat Raw and fermented animal products as much as possible.

Godspeed anon you can fight IBS. IBS is curable if you tell doctors to fucking shove it.

>> No.16937778

>>16927431
I had to lower my intake of pastas and pizza. I wanted to go full keto but now I just make sure to eat very carby things a few times a week. now my craps are not mushy and my stomach is (mostly) okay. I do drink a lot and I feel like if I stopped that I would be totally normal, but that's not happening but lowered the drinking to one or two tall cans of a strong beer every other day and on the weekend I go crazy because >muh sports. OH and I am lactose intolerant, had to cut a ton of shit out and that really helped also

>> No.16937917

Mine went away after I graduated from uni, got a job and left mommy's house, god knows what caused it, maybe just stress from assignments

>> No.16938233

>>16927431
Has anyone else suffered growth deficiencies from IBS?
I started suffering from it when I was around 11-12 years old, and to cope I just stopped eating, to the point of being anorexic.
I think I weighed around 60 pounds when I was 13.
The dipshit doctors my parents took me to could never pinpoint a cause, and never bothered to suggest a fodmap diet.
Long story short (pun intended), I'm now 5'5" at 25 years old, a full 4 inches shorter than my dad and 5 inches shorter than my younger brother.
I'm almost positive my height is due to anorexia during the most important growth period for boys.

>> No.16938362

>>16937730
>> Raw Kefir
>> Kombucha
>> Raw Milk
>> Sauerkraut and pickled foods
did you eat a serving of this stuff everyday cookbro?

>Bone Broth - this shit has collagen and vitamins/minerals that are known to restore your gut lining. I drank this every day or put it in a soup for dinner and my gut hasnt seen a bad day since

I could make this, what animals bones did you use to make soup? Any vegetables you put in and certain noodles?

>Via Negativa / what to take out
1) seed oils - fuck you up hard and destroy your gut lining stay far the fuck away from canola oil, soybean oil etc. Replace everything with coconut/tallow/butter/lard
2) Sugar - do not eat processed sugar it destroys the good bacteria in your gut.


I just bought some lard so I can use that to replace olive oil. For the sugar, any sugar you buy at the store is ok?

>> No.16938553

>>16937720
post bmi and other information please. I'm curious how you aren't dead

>> No.16939013

>>16937720
>shots of whiskey on an empty stomach
That sounds like it would make things worse. Are you still drinking on the days you're not eating?

>> No.16939035

>>16938553
I'm 28, 5ft 10, and 12 stone. I'm not ultra-thin or fat. Today I ate some Chilli Halloumi and chorizo just to get some fat.

>> No.16939047

>>16939013
Lots of things are bad, I find the best remedy to be omeprazole. Milk and alcohol don't bother me, it's when there is a large amount of food, then there is an issue.

>> No.16939087

>>16939047
That sucks. If milk doesn't bother you then try just sticking with that for a while. Milk doesn't seem to bother me either no matter how much I drink which has been a lifesaver. It's all I've had for like two weeks and I actually feel a bit better. You could even try adding a bit of cream or half and half for some extra calories if you need it.

>> No.16939104

>>16939087
Well with crohn's they advise against milk but it's a godsend to me. I literally live ok because of milk. Whisky too because It stimulates hunger even if I only eat 3 times a week. I doubt it's the best method but it works for me.

>> No.16939327

>>16938362
I mix it up. I have kombucha a couple times a week ( make my own) milk or kefir everyday and sauerkraut/ fermented foods at least 5 meals a week.

I make my own bone broth from a butcher that serves grass fed beef bones. I just do filtered water, onions and bay leaf for 24 hours. It should come out like gelatin. Also make sure to brown the bones first in the oven.

Lard is awesome. Dont replace olive oil, at least not exxtra virgin!!! that stuff is not seed oil because its not created from high heat expelling. I mean canola/soybean/corn/sunflower oil. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQmqVVmMB3k)) Good vid on the topic here. Lard is good, best if not hydrogenated. The animal works stuff is pretty good.

Any sugar at the store is usually processed esp if its white or cane sugar. I only eat local raw honey or muscavado sugar. AKA if its white then stay away. Godspeed anon!!

>> No.16939584

>>16939327
ur so friendly cookbro. i love you ill look into this and try to copy what u do

>> No.16939868

>>16938233
Not like that, but because of anxiety related issues I tended to starve myself also between the ages of 11 and 18, and I'm a few inches shorter than my brothers and dad

>> No.16939872

>>16939104
>stimulates hunger
I just eat jello for this. Even if feeling nauseous, I can usually eat one serving of jello after the nausea has passed, and a couple hours later I'll be starving.

>> No.16941183

>>16927431
IBS bros! What the fuck I am so constipated today
Yesterday I ate

A pancake
Juiced beets+carrots+apple
Greek yogurt
Beans and chili
Banana
Ice cream


Ok i may have not eaten the cleanest yesterday but I feel this should be enough to poop a good one out.

>> No.16941192

>>16941183
I also had whey protein but cant tell if this is why
And strawberries

>> No.16941219

>>16941183
>pancake
>Banana
>Ice cream
these

>> No.16941224

>>16941219
Yeah my mom made me pancakes and that shit is probably constipating me for the most part. Is whey protein not good too?

>> No.16941250

>>16941183
>>16941192
>>16941219
After an hour of sitting on the toilet i managed to push some chunks out. They came out somewhat drier than usual.

But i dont feel completely empty.

>> No.16941290

>>16939584
You'll make it anon

>> No.16941958

> got Giardia and worms from drinking tapwater in North africa like an idiot
>doesn't really kick in until I return home (all the hash and opium over there probably covered it up too)
>wretched sick shitting-what-you-ate-in-20-minutes for months. Doctors here say anxiety or standard infection or IBS because no practical experience. When finally convinced to prescribe anti-parasitics they under-dose.
>get meds I need from veterinarian websites
>clear parasites. left with small intestine that doesn't absorb things as well due to scarring
>nerves have started to register anything that happens in GI tract as pain
>body processing food feels like being disembowled so I became a junky which made it worse
>insides slowly return to normal over two years
>can now eat whatever unless it has potassium or magnesium or I chug a ton of milk

One of the worst experiences I've had. I'm thankful every day that I made it back to 90% of how I previously was. I feel terrible for people that have IBS naturally.

>> No.16942608

>>16927431
I have IBS. I just sleep early, avoid food triggers(Bread, too much fiber, beans, seeds), avoid eating after 5pm, Eat a small light meal in the morning like yogart then a few hours later eat some vegetables and eggs or meat. and then a small meal again.
avoid oily foods.
and don't hold your shit. Always go to the bathroom.

Also, control your stress(e.g. do your homework early, prepare for exam early...etc).

It is simple to control it. It actually makes you a better, healthier, and more organized person.

>> No.16942614

>>16942608
Also no processed sugar( candy pars...etc)

>> No.16942630

>>16941183
Sugar triggers IBS.

Avoid juice, Ice cream(maybe yogurt ice cream is okay) and avoid carbohydrates like pancakes.


>Beans and chili
are you retarded?

>> No.16943129

>>16927981
Your dad is funny as fuck are you sure you two are related

>> No.16943704

>>16942630
>Avoid juice,
I never had trouble with juice before though, at least not a huge impact
>ice cream
maybe you could say something.
>avoid carbohydrates like pancakes
I think this definetly fucked me up

>>Beans and chili
are you retarded?
I need some fiber somehow. is there a better fiber dish u rec?

>> No.16943715

>>16927431
My ex gf had ibs and would shit for 45 minutes sometimes

>> No.16943729

>>16942608
>>16942614
you sound like you know what you are doing.

I think my more planned out meal I want to try is this
>morning
Greek yogurt 1 serving
11am
10 almonds snack
1PM
Juiced vegetables + the actual vegetable remains for fiber(I do carrots, kale/spinach) might do others if u suggest
2PM
bone broth from grassfed cow, maybe I add in some beef to this

4PM
apple sauce

I dunno man I might need better suggestions.

>>16943715
that's me every morning cookbro. Was she cute at least?

>> No.16943740

>>16943729
>>16943729
>>16942614
Also thinking about adding some kefir, kombucha and maybe some kimchi randomly.

>> No.16943753

>>16943729
Yeah she was a qt

>> No.16943776

>>16943753
Do you think I am cute anon

>> No.16943786

>>16943776
Are you a blonde Latina gf with perky breasts and a big ass

>> No.16943791

>>16943786
I didn't know latinas can be blonde but shit I can dye my hair and maybe with the right angle I can have a big booty.

>> No.16943798

>>16943729
>10 almonds snack
Nuts can be bad, it's a lot of hard insoluble fiber that won't get digested and can potentially get stuck in diverticula and/or scrape against your bowels

>> No.16943805

>>16943798
>Nuts can be bad, it's a lot of hard insoluble fiber that won't get digested and can potentially get stuck in diverticula and/or scrape against your bowels
ogey I can just skip them then. you got anything more solid that I can eat

>> No.16943809

>>16943791
To be fair it was dyed blonde

>> No.16943821

>>16943809
desu i dont know if I would be good with blonde but maybe i could try a silvery/white color.

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>>16927431
Quick story. For the longest time I had constant stomach problems with blood shits here and there. Turned to substance abuse to dull it which made it worse.

The thing that actually helped me was therapy because for some reason stress made my muscles tense up which over the years made a big problem. As I firgured out the problems and started to change behaviour my symptoms got better and my psyche too.

Honestly the fact this is possible is complete fucking bullshit, but I take what I can get. Therapy is expensive as fuck, but it helped me and maybe it helps you.

>> No.16943921

>>16943825
Don't let any drunk jaded boomer tell you that stress is purely imaginary and that you just need to man up, it definitely can exacerbate any GI issues you already have.

>> No.16944411

>>16943704
>I need some fiber somehow
Are you sure? Fiber is kind of a meme in my experience, I personally do better with a low fiber diet.
It's fine if you know from experience that you need it, but don't force yourself just because people tell you it's good. They said whole grains are good but they make me want to die. Granted it might be good for normal people but our guts are fucked, so.

I mostly get fiber from vegetables I can tolerate like carrots, green beans, etc. But whenever I sought it out with a little psyllium or oats or whatever I'd be suffering.

>> No.16944424

>>16944411
>I mostly get fiber from vegetables I can tolerate like carrots, green beans, etc. But whenever I sought it out with a little psyllium or oats or whatever I'd be suffering.
oh i mean if i eat more than 25grams of oats I usually get bloated to hell. but 25grams and less is fine, which I used to do in the mornings.

I think I might be leaning on a more keto diet. But basically most of my diet currently has no direct carbs like bread/toast/pancakes etc. but I think I am still somewhat constipated still. So I am assuming extra fiber would help.

i tried psyllium and usually it works ok to make my poop more solid, but as to if I know for sure if it makes me gassy, i cant tell.

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Any of you take frankincense or myrrh? They are both proven to at least somewhat alleviate GI irritations and inflammations, and on another note it can make your house smell like a church, dunno if you like that (I do personally). I started taking both to further treat my UC, if it works I will report back in some future thread, but it seems to be hit or miss from what I've read.

>> No.16945638

>>16944565
please do anon let us know
i just bought some kefir from whole foods to see what it can do for me

>> No.16945736

>>16943729
>almonds
They are always difficult to digest for me and cause trouble.

The rest is fine. Just avoid sugar, bread(wheat products), and too much fiber.

Also DON'T overeat

>> No.16945739

>>16944565
yeah they are good in the morning and before bed

>> No.16945760

>>16945736
how much fiber you get a day and tour weight? i think at my cleanest i got 20grams but i still had constipation. im about 120pounds
holy fuck i love overeating though except it either makes me constipated to hell or diarrhea the next day

what do you think about peanut butter instead of almonds? I am trying to get more protein cause I been working out recently. but also dont want to get constipated.

>> No.16945784

>>16933772
Directly below my navel. It's basically this instant "you need to go shit violently. NOW." feeling, even if there's nothing to shit out.

>> No.16945787

>>16945784
I get cramps whenever I don't eat or workout too much and didn't get enough food in beforehand. maybe u need to just increase ur daily foood u eat.

>> No.16945793

>>16945787
I've been trying but every time I have more than a bite of something it feels like somebody put battery acid up my butthole and I have to go sit on the toilet until the cramping stops.
Its never solid either, whatever comes out is basically sand

>> No.16945798

>>16945760
I only eat to stop my hunger. 3-4 small meals divided over 12 hours.
Like 1 boiled egg + 1/3 carrot or cucumber + some fruits like 3 blueberries and strawberry each meal and then some chicken breasts in the afternoon.
> I love overeating
Well, you are tiring your guts when you overeat. it is like clogging a toilet.

Sleeping early + not overeating solves 60% of the issue

>> No.16945806

>>16945793
>>I've been trying but every time I have more than a bite of something it feels like somebody put battery acid up my butthole and I have to go sit on the toilet until the cramping stops.
>Its never solid either, whatever comes out is basically sand
maybe your stomach just has a high amount of stomach acid or a GERD like response. desu I have not much experience with this as I only get it when I overeat, or maybe there is something in your stomach that is trying to be digested that isnt digested.

>>16945798
shiiiiit I'll be so skiinny if I eat that much though.
It just doesn't look like a complete diet.

I'm trying to sleep earlier though, and man I'll try to not overeat

>> No.16945929

Cookbros I just took my morning poop. I was a bit constipated, poop came out like a slightly melted chocolate bar.
my diet from yesterday

Morning:
10am
Greek yogurt
11am
2 medium sized carrots and a few strawberries
2 servings of apple sauce
11am-2pm sleep
2pm
25grams of oats and 2 tbsp of peanut butter
4pm
beans and chili


Maybe i should start off today with something more fibrous like vegetables

>> No.16946100

>>16945798
What a sad life.

>> No.16946108

>>16946100
life isn't about eating MacDonalds every day amerishart

>> No.16946228

>>16945784
>It's basically this instant "you need to go shit violently. NOW." feeling, even if there's nothing to shit out
>>16945793
>and I have to go sit on the toilet until the cramping stops.
I had the same thing for months/years and always thought I was constipated somehow, because of course there's nothing coming out despite having to go urgently. Turns out it I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis, "[...] people with UC may experience urgency or rectal tenesmus, which is the urgent desire to evacuate the bowels but with the passage of little stool." (wikipedia) You should really see a gastro enterologist if you haven't already, stop telling yourself it's normal (like I did for years), suffering all the time.

>> No.16946234

Y'all fuckin STINK dude. Everyone I know with IBS has this faint whiff of shit about them and it disgusts me.

>> No.16946506

>>16946228
Is that serious?

>> No.16946525

tfw crohns
tfw eating well can’t get rid of the symptoms, only lessen the effects
tfw doomed to shoot up stellara for my whole life
feels bad man

>> No.16946552

>>16946506
UC is a lifelong chronic disease which usually worsens over the years until you literally shit blood and which can only really be cured by removing the large intestine, dunno if that sounds serious to you, it's kinda like Crohns, maybe not as bad, but still fucking bad. But really, you have the whole internet at your disposition, I know what people say about self-diagnosis on the web, but just research a bit and maybe you'll notice other common symptoms you might have. Anyway see a specialized doctor ASAP, not trying to make you panic here, but the first step is knowing what you have and you'll usually feel a lot better after a diagnosis, there's medication for everything.

>> No.16946575

>>16946552
Well that's a fuckin bummer, but I'll be happy to get any diagnosis that makes me stop squirting bile and sand poop out of my ass every time I drink water or eat food. My doctor is having me try to see a kidney specialist but the wait list has me scheduled in April, I guess I'll bug her about this too just to cover all the bases. Hope I can see one sooner.

>> No.16946589

>>16934616
Diaper fetishism should be punishable by death.

>> No.16946861

Just drink half to a liter of kefir every day. Buy cheapest milk, mix in kefir, keep at room temp for a day and you will multiply your kefir. Don't waste your money buying kefir. You can make your own as long as you have kefir grains or some kefir. Drink milk. It's alkaline. You probably have a very acidic body. You're white, you were made to drink kefir and milk. Be strong. You will easily see the difference.

>> No.16946893

>>16946575
Didn't read about your kindney stuff beforehand, I personally have no problems with mine, so maybe it's something different altogether. Or maybe it's some crazy combination of different things. Good luck anon.

>> No.16946937

>>16946861
>Buy cheapest milk, mix in kefir, keep at room temp for a day and you will multiply your kefir. Don't waste your money buying kefir. You can make your own as long as you have kefir grains or some kefir. Drink milk. It's alkaline. You probably have a very acidic body. You're white, you were made to drink kefir and milk. Be strong. You will easily see the difference.


Can I use lactose free milk to mix with kefir? How much kefir to milk ratio should I be aiming for?

>> No.16947543
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intermittent fasting makes me feel very energized sometimes
I recommend

>> No.16947618
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Anyone get stomach cramps almost exclusively in the morning? Waking up at a regular time (before 9) increases the chance of stomach cramps and explosive diarrhea exponentially, I pretty much cant do anything in the morning without contingency plans for it, which is really disruptive for any kind of routine starting before noon. I basically wake up at 11am every day now to avoid it as much as possible, but when I had a schedule to wake up early I basically had cramps and diarrhea every single day and had to map out where I was to find the least frequented bathrooms to go to. Gastro doc said they didnt know why and just classified it as ibs and to try paleo but it didn't really help.

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>>16927431
mfw recurrent SIBO
mfw been doing low FODMAP for over a month now and it's not helping at all and I'm just tired and malnourished
mfw there is no cope
mfw there is no hope
mfw im gonna rope

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>>16947626
Hey there SIBO buddy!
What's funny is I never got this bloated before the breath test but it inflated me badly and apparently permanently. This fucking gas won't go away. Rifaximin did nothing. There is only bloat.

Diet does help though, I made the mistake of trying 22g of oats and felt miserable and constantly nauseous for days. Now I'm minimizing fiber and no fodmaps and I'm kinda alright. Although the bloat is STILL THERE ALWAYS.

>> No.16947851

>>16947745
I've had the breath test done three times. My first course of Rifaximin was like night and day, but it wore off after a few months and subsequent courses haven't done much. All that first course did was give me hope, I thought I was cured. I don't get gas I just shit my fucking brains out all the time.

>> No.16948188

>>16927431
IBS BROS!!! I just ate an entire pizza. I know you told me not too but I couldn't help myself I was too tempted.

It tasted good, but I will probably be pay tomorrow by being constipated and have violent messy diarrhea on monday.
I ate pizza while listening to enjoy yourself by saint pepsi

this thread theme is now this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hI0qMtdfng

>> No.16948217

>>16947626
>mfw been doing low FODMAP for over a month now and it's not helping at all and I'm just tired and malnourished
cookbro you might just not just need try an elimination diet and start off from there. I am very tired and looking malnourished right now as well.

>>16947745
that sounds terrible cookbro. you know i never have bloat if i just dont eat. maybe we arent meant to be alive :(

>>16947618
i used to have this whenever i overate, and was overweight. i think that if you wake up earlier your poop is going to be more wet and diarrhea like consistency. if you wake up later your poop is actually more dry because u have gone without water for a while.

i used to have cramps in the morning, which made me run to the bathroom and basically explode out shit as I wake up. now i mostly just blow out a lot of gas and I just sit on the toilet for a while to get my poop out. I don't really like either situation.

>> No.16948229

>>16946861
I read a little into this cookbro, basically sometimes it may or may not actually turn all the milk into kefir. which may or may not give me diarrhea if it doesn't work out.


cookbro have you done this before?

>> No.16948971

>>16948229
I'm not that anon but his advice sounds a bit sus. Leaving milk out at room temp for a day without qualification doesn't sound reliable. That said, if milk spoils you'll notice.
Normally to culture milk you want to sterilize it first (bring to 180F), then add the culture and keep it under optimal conditions. You can skip that with already-sterile UHT milk. I make yogurt which means you have to keep it at 100-110F but I don't know about kefir, maybe room temp is fine?
No matter what, if you keep reusing the previous batch to make the next you're likely to have a failure eventually as its balance gets out of whack or something. My yogurt was able to chain 7 batches and then failed. Make sure you know what success looks like, for yogurt it's easy, it's safe if it set and dubious if it didn't.

>> No.16949084

>>16948971
cookbro this scares me a bit. if i become paralyzed from eating bad kefir that would be very scary. I wouldnt get to talk to you cookbros anymore :(

but i read into it basically, you need to get these milk kefir grains you buy online. then you put some in milk, and jar it up, put a cloth and make sure it has airflow and then in a dark place.

it will then uhhhh i think get fermented. in a week or two. im not too sure as i never done this. i wish kefir anon was here.

>> No.16949701

>>16947626
Paleo diet ?

>> No.16949739

>>16927431
often intestinal parasites are misdiagnosed as ibs.
Buy tinctures of clove, wormwood, and black walnut hull
This will seriously change your life

>> No.16949748

>>16927431
Meditation can help. There is a program on nteflix called Headspace: A Guide to Meditation. One of the episodes is about dealing with pain. I suggest you watch it.

>> No.16949763

>>16949739
Wouldn't you shit out these fuckers after some time

>> No.16949776

>>16927431
Do you ever get anxiety or panic attacks? My episodes tend to be linked to that. Regardless, one of the things that helps me is metamucil, it’s weird because it’s not like I eat fast food and shit all the time, I eat a variety of foods that include fiber, but the extra fiber provides a peace of mind.

>> No.16949777

>>16949739
Where do you get those?

>> No.16950207

Experimented for a couple of weeks with removing foods from my diet and it really worked. It worked quickly too. Not two days went by without eating bread, eggs or onions and my shits turned normal.
I'm not even mad. I had a lot of fun these 35 years of eating normal food as a gourmand, probably ate more interesting and high quality food than most people do in their lives. But if removing bread, eggs or onion will let me have normal bowel movements and no bloating, discomfort or stomach pain, I'm ready to accept it. Well, I'll still probably allow myself to eat the odd forbidden ingredient on special occasions and if the special occasion is on a Friday and I have nowhere to be over the weekend so I can freely shit my guts out. But in general, I'm ready to cut out all these foods for a better quality of life.

>> No.16950550

>>16927431
thankfully it only strikes once every couple of months. though unfortunately it's when I sleep most of the time. Just randomly wake up in extreme pain.

>> No.16950708

>>16949739
>often intestinal parasites are misdiagnosed as ibs.
don't you get some worms pooped out if you have it though?

>> No.16950756

>>16950207
What did you only eat during those two days?

>> No.16950862

>>16950756
boiled botato, carrots and peppers and sosig

>> No.16950915

>>16950862
>sosig
which kind anon? can u post the box/brand you got it from so i can buy it too

also you are kinda cute.

I'm here to report my poop progress today
>>16945929
>>16948188
So after eating this I basically pooped out a NICE big fat solid poop, although afterwards I had a few messy snakes come out. I couldn't tell if the big poop was messy but I think I am going in the right direction.

>> No.16950957

Mine stemmed from an eating disorder I had as a teenager. I think it's because I grew up in a ludicrously private family, couldn't even fart around family members as a child. To this day, my brain physically denies me from shitting unless I have total privacy, which causes obvious problems. I think antidepressants might help but I haven't tried them yet

>> No.16950966

>>16950957
I had the same problem growing up. I also had an eating disorder, and i was pretty skinny back then because of it. i was just too scared to fart and poop around other people since my family constantly had other people in the house to rent rooms with.
I can't even poop that well in public restrooms.

I tried antidepressants but I think it made it worse.

>> No.16950994

>>16950966
I don't know how old you are but I've at least noticed it get better as I grow older. Still, it's made relationships a fucking pain.

>> No.16951001

>>16950994
>I don't know how old you are but I've at least noticed it get better as I grow older.
I'm in my early twenties dude. Yeah I really avoided relationships because of my poop problems. Like could you imagine after sleeping with a girl then the moment we wake up I have to go running to the toilet and well usually my poop comes out either exploding out with loud noises or I just fart a lot. It's probably something I will have to work on or at least change my diet.

>> No.16951017

>>16950957
yup same. and in our house the toilet is positioned in such a way that there's constantly people passing it by and smelling your shit. and you can hear conversations happening literally inches from you while you're shitting. my parents can't understand why that bugs me and they keep trying to talk to me while i'm in the can
nowadays i can only shit late at night after everyone has gone to bed or early in the morning before anyone is up. that's if i'm back home. i actually live alone now and i shit whenever i want to but i don't know how i could cope if i was living with a girlfriend.
kek, to be fair, some girls have this autism too. i know of one who after moving in with her bf asked him to go out and stay on the balcony while she was in the toilet so he couldn't hear her fart and shit.

>> No.16951029

>>16951017
>i know of one who after moving in with her bf asked him to go out and stay on the balcony while she was in the toilet so he couldn't hear her fart and shit.
aww man thats so cute. I share the same struggles. I would marry an IBS girl so we could share our struggles together. I would love all of her.

>> No.16951059

>>16951017
My old gf was like that. She would put the shower on while she was in there. She had weird habits though, she never got the urge to go but rather would sit there expecting something to happen, sometimes for an hour. Maybe she was one of us too

>> No.16951066

>>16951059
>she never got the urge to go but rather would sit there expecting something to happen, sometimes for an hour. Maybe she was one of us too
I sometimes do that because I try to force myself to go every morning so I don't have to poop while I'm at work or doing something in public. Usually sometimes comes out after pushing and shoving. But if it doesn't I feel like I permanently have leftover poop in my stomach for the rest of the day.

>> No.16951142

>>16951066
I hate that feeling. Makes me feel dirty. My solution has been to find the coziest, private toilet wherever I work and have a strong coffee at lunch. Has helped to retrain my guts over the years as I don't even need the coffee these days.

There's hope yet

>> No.16951147

>>16951142
>I hate that feeling. Makes me feel dirty.
it's terrible yeah. i hate it so much too.

I mean there's only one toilet avaliable at work so it sort of trapped me. One time I had my boss come in the bathroom while I was pooping and I was trying so hard not to fart it was painful.

I actually was farting before he came in so it's completely possible he heard it from the outside of bathroom door. (my farts are loud.)

>> No.16951163

>>16932886
>>16933346
>>16933387
>>16934059
>>16934071
>>16935863
Idiots who have never looked into this or talked to a doctor act like they know what they are talking about. Do not listen to them.
Low dose antidepressants are given not to improve your attitude about being sick. They are supposed to dull the nerves around your digestive system so it doesn't freak out all the time.
I took Nortryptaline for about 9 months to treat my functional dyspepsia and it has been fuckin great. I still have occasional episodes but it's wayyy better than before and I only had to take them for 9 months. Ask your doctor about them.

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16951238

>>16927981
>Then he calls me a donkey for not being able to eat raw onions

>> No.16951500

>>16951066
extremely relatable, i fucking hate that feeling
>>16951142
for me it's going to the mall that's right by my workplace and shitting in the bathroom there. it's the kind of shitty mall where people don't hang out for long so almost nobody goes in the bathroom, it's well isolated from the main walking areas and there's music playing to cover up noises so it feels okay to shit there.

>> No.16951645

>>16951500
I work in a huge office building and there are all these labyrinthine corridors in the basement level with a few unused loos tucked away. Super comfy

>> No.16951652

>>16950915
>So after eating this I basically pooped out a NICE big fat solid poop, although afterwards I had a few messy snakes come out
That probably means the earlier foods digested easily and that the later ones didn't. I would guess based on both your schedule and my own experience that the oatmeal and carrots worked well and that the beans were the messier part. You don't necessarily have to cut out beans entirely, but maybe try reducing the beans and substituting with more carrot or something similar.

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16951670

>>16932876
>>16927431
Based and GAPSPilled. Anyone with IBS (and really any other health problem) needs to read this book (picrel). Saved my life but no one I've talked about it believes me and just continues to listen to the doctors that have been unable to cure them for up to 2 decades... people are fucking dumb.

>> No.16951703

>>16951652
>That probably means the earlier foods digested easily and that the later ones didn't. I would guess based on both your schedule and my own experience that the oatmeal and carrots worked well and that the beans were the messier part. You don't necessarily have to cut out beans entirely, but maybe try reducing the beans and substituting with more carrot or something similar.

o forgot the mention I didn't eat beans that day. I think it was the pidser that didn't work well. but I ate it like an hour or 2 before bed so I don't think it all digested yet.
I have no idea how backlogged my poop is though, maybe I should eat clean today but I sorta want this other frozen pidser in the freezer.

>> No.16952841

I have never heard of a non American getting ibs
What the fuck are Americans doing to their bodies

>> No.16952854

>>16951670
What is the content of the book

>> No.16953234

>>16951059
>>16951142

I kind of do this too, its because if I feel my stomach drop and start to get cramps when I am out, I have to spend the rest of the morning or afternoon managing it because my gut doesn't immediately void itself and I have to wait while the cramps get progressively worse.

I don't just sit on the toilet though, I try to move my gut, squat and do stuff like that when I get ready to try and force a bowel movement preemptively to avoid it later.

>> No.16953250

>>16953234
me too one thing i try to do at home is basically
you sit on the toilet
then you take both of your hands and you just push down from the top of your stomach to the bottom

this usually pushes out a lot of my gas and makes a loud fart noise. then i keep doing it if small pieces of poop are not getting out, it pushes those pieces out with the air pulled in then pushed out

i do not know if there are health complications to this

>> No.16953275

>>16952841
I live in the Netherlands and I have IBS. Maybe your country just doesn't have a healthcare system refined enough to diagnose that sort of thing?

>> No.16953323

>>16953275
netherlands you say? do you like watching twitch

>> No.16954116

>>16953275
can confirm. i'm in eastern europe and i know of like 4 people who have ibs symptoms but since nobody knows about ibs here, they're clueless

>> No.16954122

>>16927434
It’s all that charcoal-broiled meat you ate

>> No.16954153

st johns wort, avoid dairy or eat it once a day, eat around the same time every day, don't stay up too late

>> No.16954692

For me it never got as bad as chronic IBS but I've had years of issues of reacting to commonly irritating foods (such as bad skin reactions and generally feeling terrible if I ate something I shouldn't have). Foods such as wheat, chocolate, coffee, sugary desserts, dairy, eggs

>>16951670 has worked for many, but a lot of people may only need to go as far as doing the AIP diet instead of the GAPS diet which is very very restrictive.

AIP has helped me out a lot. After a while of doing AIP I attempted to give my gut flora a hand in building better populations. I took 600mg NAC at the start of a meal (helps to break biofilms) and it's generally a no-risk supplement (but you have to make sure to take it with food). I then took a capsule of oregano oil or berberine right after finishing a meal to help kill any undesirables. You don't want to take oregano or berberine for longer than a couple weeks at a time before giving it a break for about as long or longer. And you don't want to repeat this too often. Then a few hours before bed I ate a decent sized portion of kimchi or saeurkraut by itself.
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Other supplements I took for my gut but I wasn't strict about: gelatin mixed in hot water, zinc-l-carnosine (for gut lining), occasional copper supplement (like once or twice a week for several weeks), l-glutamine

I can't load my digestion with a ton of sugary desserts still without consequences, but compared to before it's not a big deal to have an occasional slice of bread with cream cheese, or a few pieces of chocolate. The reactions have lessened a lot. It sucks to eat so restrictive to keep from feeling shitty, but it's doable.

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16954702

>JUST DRINK WATER BRO.
>JUST STOP TAKING DAIRY BRO
>IT'S PROBABLY A MENTAL THING BRO, THERE'S NO WAY THOSE BEANS AFFECTED YOU THAT FAST EVEN THOUGH YOU WENT FROM OK TO PREGNANT BELLY AND FARTING UNCONTROLLABLY WHILE STILL EATING
Thanks mom, sis, bae, doc, everyone else....I'm totally healed now.

>> No.16954727

>>16927431
>IBS
didn't know we had pensioners on /ck/

>> No.16954883

IBD reporting in
Had a colonoscopy on friday and woke up in the middle of it (again)