Why can't people cook?

[Anonymous No.16817350]

I don't understand how people "can't cook". I mean, a lot of people who say they can't cook still put together an instapot meal of meat, vegetables and spices. So why can't they cook?

On the other hand, it's so easy to follow a recipe it feels impossible to be unable to cook.

What's the deal?

[Anonymous No.16817364]

>>16817350
For 90% of people, it's not that they can't, it's that they're too lazy. They can get prepackaged foods, or just get some quick takeout. So, why should they even put the effort into learning to cook? The other 10% are just plain terrible at it. They legitimately can't cook, and probably shouldn't be allowed around a stove for safety purposes.

[Anonymous No.16817379]

Most people are just too lazy/uninterested in it. For some portion of people, they may just have no taste to be order to discern things which would mean they just can't "cook well", or are legitimately too stupid to be using dangerous levels of heat in which would mean they aren't allowed to cook.

[Anonymous No.16817382]

everything i cook tastes like shit

[Anonymous No.16817388]

>>16817382
You need to use salt and butter

[Anonymous No.16817389]

Had this experience with a guy on grindr (age 65) who apparently never cooked. It's not like your kitchen doesn't come standard with a stove and oven. All you need is a single cast iron pan and you can cook almost anything

[Anonymous No.16817409]

>>16817388
This is the cheat code to cooking

[Anonymous No.16817416]

>>16817364
Friends of mine, a married couple basically can't cook. They boil everything. One of them tried to cook a steak and basically boiled it; low heat, too long. It was awful. The wife boils vegetables in separate pots. When I visited I kind of took over. Took the corn out of the pot it was in, put it in the microwave. Placed carrots and beans together to cook.

They just have ZERO cooking skills. It's a failure of their parents and then themselves. Their parents never taught them and then they never followed up; after all in university there was the cafeteria, McDonalds, and prepacked meals.
So it's not just laziness, it's shit parenting.

[Anonymous No.16817419]

>>16817350
gib burg NAO

[Anonymous No.16817423]

>>16817416
>They boil everything
Do they fucking hate pans or something? Oven and Pan are far easier to cook with.

[Anonymous No.16817449]

>>16817350
I had to learn how to cook myself, my family are decent cooks, though they cheat a lot on small things, but they are just too busy to teach me. Even then i can only cook a few basic recipies and im too lazy to want to at times.

[Anonymous No.16817468]

>>16817350
Oh man, you'd be surprised. Like I know people in their 60s who don't have any idea about basic things like temperature control. A small piece of chicken on a pan? no problem! just put the stove on full blast for 5 minutes, pour a deciliter of oil in it and proceed to have an oil splatter explosion when you put a cold chicken breast into it.
There are only a few skills you need in cooking, knife control, temperature control, estimation of doneness and the use of salt and other seasonings. That's literally it, if you have even a relative handle on these things, congratulations! You can cook! It doesn't matter if you're cooking on a stove inside a house or on a campfire outdoors, the same rules apply.
I also think it more has to do with patience and interest though. Older people tend to think that everything requires a very spesific skillset and if they don't have that skillset on them, they refuse to learn it because they belive learning stuff is somehow complicated. I'm sure in your sixties new things are very difficult to learn, but come the fuck on. At least have an attempt.

[Anonymous No.16817482]

>>16817364
Those 10% are just too lazy to get a timer and a balance.

[Anonymous No.16817546]

>>16817468
Tons of young people can't cook

[Anonymous No.16817567]

>>16817350
How do people "learn" to cook?

It's just natural, instinctive, it's so simple and easy. It's just flavor combinations and applying heat.

[Anonymous No.16817581]

I run a small soup kitchen and do some cooking classes through it as well. You'd be amazed at what some people don't know.

It's really amazing to see the look in people's eyes when they just went from shit like putting a cold chicken breast with instant package rice to learning to properly cook a juicy, seasoned breast and having that with a properly seasoned and flavored rice.

[Anonymous No.16817604]

>>16817350
Many older men view cooking as a women's job, so for them learning to cook is emasculating, and admitting knowledge of cooking is effeminate. They only know how to grill meat.

Many younger women refuse to learn to cook well because society has conditioned them to reject traditionally female domestic roles. I live in a big city and the majority of couples I interact with, the man cooks(the women usually clean though. I think because cooking ability has become a mate attraction strategy for men that division becomes natural).

More than 10% of the population has an IQ such that following ordered lists is a difficult, mentally demanding task.

On top of that, many poor people work difficult, physically and mentally exhausting jobs, then have long commutes on top of that, and simple don't have the energy to cook. It's not even laziness. If you are out of executive function you are out of executive function. They never bother to learn or try because they simply don't have the time to assign to it. This also applies to a lot of high-status men who work in business, finance, and tech, who work super long hours in order to move up the corporate ladder.

Finally, cooking is an actual skill that requires practice. The fact that it's easy to pick up the basics still indicates you need to pick up the basics. When you don't know how to cook, it can be an involved and tedious process. The first time I made perogies it took me three hours. No one is going to invest that time when frozen ones are still pretty good unless they already like cooking. Now I can go from flour and raw potatoes to dumplings in about half an hour, which is perfectly within reason for a weeknight meal, but someone who's never made them or anything similar before wont pull that off.

Finally, if their parents didn't cook, it might be deeply ingrained habit to eat out, subsist off of frozen meals, and not use the kitchen.

[Anonymous No.16817611]

>>16817382
heh, do americans really?

[Anonymous No.16817619]

>>16817611
Really what? Speak, motherfucker, you have my attention. C'mon, you people literally like to do this shit just as much as the idiots do on Twitter.

[Anonymous No.16817621]

>>16817604
This is the opinion of a high schooler/early 20 something year old with no friends and a lousy/nonexistent sex life that thinks their lack of both is because the others are too stupid.

[Anonymous No.16817622]

>>16817621
That's a pretty mean spirited bit of projection.

[Anonymous No.16817628]

For some people, it isn't in their blood; I cook my own damn meals all of time or at least prepare them for later. It comes naturally to most people I believe. Now don't get me wrong, I have fucked up a few times while cooking, especially for fish. I had to learn a couple of times to start low or medium with fish.

[Anonymous No.16817629]

>>16817416
>Took the corn out of the pot it was in, put it in the microwave.
So you made it worse.

[Anonymous No.16817635]

>>16817468
That's not specific to older people. Most people can't grasp the idea of learning new skills, because the things highly skilled people in that area do look too complicated. It's like people saying they can't program, but never do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.16817637]

>>16817604
>Many younger women refuse to learn to cook well because society has conditioned them to reject traditionally female domestic roles

This is where the pharse

>all women want to do nowadays is twerk, be on their phone, and be bisexual

comes into play. I thought it just a meme that some permavirgin came up with on Twitter but damn!

[Anonymous No.16817640]

>>16817416
A lot of parents simply don't make time for their kids anymore. However, people literally have the information on how to cook any recipe right at their finger tips, so there's really no excuse for being a dumbass on how to cook, and along with that will come the experience!

[Anonymous No.16817643]

>>16817604
have sex (you can't lol)

[Anonymous No.16817653]

>>16817643
If some of these women refuse to cook because

>traditional gender roles are bad so I won't learn a useful skill cuz society says so

Then I really hope it comes back to bite them in the ass some day.

[Anonymous No.16817670]

>>16817653
I think this trope of women is the same thing as "women aren't funny" and "women don't have hobbies"

Its just talking about white suburban women

[Anonymous No.16817674]

for a lot of people it's handling raw meat, getting a slimy raw piece of chicken in your fingers is just enough of a psychological barrier for people to avoid it.

[Anonymous No.16817677]

>>16817670
Most likely, anon, but it seems to be spreading everywhere. I mean, women are funny and all that but it's getting harder to find nowadays...

[Anonymous No.16817680]

>>16817677
Stop hanging out with with boring/white women

[Anonymous No.16817681]

>>16817674
Invest in latex or non-latex gloves, anon or tell the ones who are like that.

[Anonymous No.16817682]

>>16817680
I have been for the past few months and life has definitely improved!

[Anonymous No.16817700]

>>16817677
>it's getting harder to find nowadays
as many problems as the younger gens have I have to say I sort of disagree about that criticism. Exposure to the internet has fucked a lot of things, but that ultra fake stuffy karen mentality seems somewhat less prevalent among zoomers than older gens.

[Anonymous No.16817880]

>>16817629
No, microwaving corn on the cob is totally fine.

[Anonymous No.16817890]

>>16817350
Cooking requires practical experience from someone who knows what they are doing and many people were never taught by their parents. Their parents just assumed the kids would figure it out when they moved out and the kids never learned the skills

[Anonymous No.16817902]

>>16817350
They can, but being unable to do basic tasks and having mental disorders like depression or OCD are an easy way to feel distinctive.

[Anonymous No.16817922]

>>16817902
my autism and depression is reason i cook, so as far as i can tell people dont have an excuse

[Anonymous No.16817937]

>>16817922
Depression can only be a reason to not do something. It's in inhibition of action, not a motivation. Congratulations, you're cured of one of your problems.

[Anonymous No.16817941]

>>16817364
A lot of people lack the patience. I can cook if I really focus, but if I don't, stuff gets burned because I can't be assed to watch the frying pan for 8 minutes it takes the onion to get browned properly.

[Anonymous No.16817943]

>>16817937
good god if only

[Anonymous No.16817944]

>>16817468
>There are only a few skills you need in cooking, knife control, temperature control, estimation of doneness and the use of salt and other seasonings. That's literally it, if you have even a relative handle on these things, congratulations! You can cook!
Problems is those skills require a feeling and someone to at least instruct you just to get started. Or lots of trial and error people aren't inclined towards.

[Anonymous No.16817949]

>>16817941
ADHD? It's not like you're intently staring at a pan, you're doing other shit in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.16818036]

>>16817635
But the older you get the less excuses you have to not being in posession of the most mundane life skills. Do you hold someone whos 23 years old to the same standards you hold a 60 years old? I bet not. In fact I bet you would be way way WAAAY more merciful towards someone older, based on this comment alone.
If someone is 60 years of age and can't cook chicken, I can't come up with many reasons other than they have straight up refused to ever learn it.
Furthermore, why are you getting offended and coping for someone elses stead?
Or are you a 60 year old who can't cook?

[Anonymous No.16818042]

>>16817604
Why are you calling this poster an incel?
He is absolutely 100% correct about everything.
t.sex haver/grass toucher

[Anonymous No.16818047]

>>16817350
When somebody says that they can't cook, what they really mean is that they're lazy and have no sense of taste.

[Anonymous No.16818056]

people are easily intimidated by it and don't try
it's like if you try learning how to draw seriously for a little while and everyone thinks you have magic powers even though you still suck dick

[Anonymous No.16818058]

>>16817890
I was really into cooking as a kid but my ma got really annoyed and yelled at me when I got stuff wrong, then ended up walking away and leaving me to fuck everything up more without any guidance, at which point I would be berated and made to clean all the cookware by hand as a punishment even though we had a dishwasher.

It took me 13 years before I rediscovered that I loved cooking, and that only happened because my friends decided that they wanted to do one of those hipster dinner party rotation things.

[Anonymous No.16818070]

>>16817416
>Go to sister's house for christmas dinner
>Boiled carrots
>Boiled broccoli
>Boiled sprouts
>All of which are indistinguishable from each other, basically having turned into a grey mush
>Probably more flavour in the fucking water than there is in the vegetable matter
>Frozen roast potatoes that are somehow still cold in the centre (???)
>Beef has been cooked forever
>Would be better off eating my shoe - More flavour and less tough
>Gravy is literally just packet mix, diluted twice as much as it should be
Never let my siblings do cooking for any family events again

[Anonymous No.16818076]

>Somebody HAS to teach you.
No they don't. You just need access to some food produce with a working stove and a few tools.
Didn't you know that in old school cooking, you never teach the younger ones anything, but they are welcome to STEAL your recipies and techniques.
Most people are shit at teaching anyway and can't handle a person making the same mistake more than once without losing their shit.
A want and need for a mentor is the most misguided opinion in learning anyhing.
Of course it helps yes, but if you have a shit teacher their methods might be counter productive or they could just straight up teach you wrong.
My dad did most of the cooking around the house but I have 0 recollections of him and me actually making food together and him teaching me. Most of the time I just appeared on the table when he told me the food was done.

[Anonymous No.16818091]

>>16817382
You need to cook with love

[Anonymous No.16818121]

>>16817416
i lived with my oldest brother for a short time and my brothers wife has one recipe and its chopped sausages thrown into some cheap jar of sweet and sour sauce with boiled potatoes. she cooks it like 4 days out of the week and the other days its take away. just depressing, i cant think of a better reason to learn how to cook a handful of dishes well than to not want to have to eat garbage for your whole life but so many people seem to live like that

[Anonymous No.16818129]

>>16818091
this. love is my secret ingredient, it acts as a taste multiplier

[Anonymous No.16818140]

>>16818129
Mine is worcester sauce

[Anonymous No.16818314]

>>16817619

go back to plebbit faggot

[Anonymous No.16818337]

>>16818091
>t. a caring clive

[Anonymous No.16818541]

>>16817350
I cook almost every day , but it’s more like heating ingredients and assembling dinners . I mostly chose foods based on nutrition rather than taste . I look at everything I eat and decide if it fits into my dietary goals . Over time I’m trying to learn new cooking skills and techniques , however I’m trying to look at food as fuel and make better choices than I have in the past .

[Anonymous No.16818649]

>>16817604
This entire post can be summed up by "laziness".

[Anonymous No.16818655]

>>16817635
>they can't program, but never do anything about it.
Programming cannot be compared to cooking, at all.

[Anonymous No.16818658]

>>16817653
>I really hope it comes back to bite them in the ass
it does when they get fat and everything they eat tastes like shit. they become depressed and kill themselves

[Anonymous No.16818662]

>>16817890
>Cooking requires practical experience
>heat up nonstick pan with oil
>crack egg and toss in
>heat it up until it looks like what a restaurant serves you
>add salt to taste
>wa la
wow so hard

[Anonymous No.16818672]

>>16818056
this post makes no logical sense. how are you intimidated when people like Gordon Ramsey explains everything for free, and nobody watches you cook?

[Anonymous No.16818677]

>>16818121
>its chopped sausages thrown into some cheap jar of sweet and sour sauce with boiled potatoes
pukes insid emy mouth

[Anonymous No.16818678]

>>16817382
Stop shitting in your food then

[Anonymous No.16818881]

>>16818042
angry women/white knights

[Anonymous No.16818941]

If you never got taught by your parents, is there a good way to learn the fundamentals of cooking?
My problem with cooking is that all the resources are awful scammy websites and videos designed for women. I want a simple, clean manual that goes over the basics, like this guy said:

>>16817468
>There are only a few skills you need in cooking, knife control, temperature control, estimation of doneness and the use of salt and other seasonings.

I really want to master those and just cook basic meals really well instead of hunting for individual recipes on shitty blogs.

[Anonymous No.16819061]

People don't like cooking. They don't like eating and they don't like food.

10,15 years ago bookshops and internet were full of recipes by top tier chefs - the best of the best. People who had held 3 Michelin stars for decades.

Then came the likes of Bon Appétit and Saveur: still good but easier, faster, less dish washing, less ingredients that go bad anyway.

Today there's only garbage. Garbage in bookstores, on Amazon, on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.16819335]

>>16818941
Unironically Food Wishes on youtube. Just watch his videos and don't be concerned with the recipies. Watch all different kinds and observe what he's doing. He's really good at explaining, shows what hes doing and only what hes doing and teaches the fundamentals very well. The rest is just you cooking.

[Anonymous No.16819363]

>>16818672
I'm talking about normies

[Anonymous No.16819618]

>>16817350
well my cousin is 40 and has lived with our grandma since aged 18. the main problem is he has never been 'forced' to cook for himself.

when I turned 18, I was left at the house by myself with not a lot of microwavable food, so I was 'forced' to learn how to cook fresh foods.

[Anonymous No.16820213]

I don't understand how people can't cook in the internet age, there are countless online recipes. I didn't even really learn any recipes from my parents but I still was able to teach myself to cook via the internet. my dad did the same thing when my mom divorced him and she was no longer cooking for him, just started making recipes he got off the internet. I think people just really overestimate the level of skill needed to make 90% of foods

[Anonymous No.16820219]

I like eating. I don't like cooking.

[Anonymous No.16820253]

>>16817890
>Their parents just assumed the kids would figure it out when they moved out and the kids never learned the skills
This, and my mom would never let us experiment in the kitchen. My sister and I were for prepping vegetables, that's all

[Anonymous No.16820259]

>>16817350
>Can I slap something together to feed myself?
Yes
>Would I serve that to other people
No.
It's that simple, I cook well enough to feed myself and cater to my own tastes, but I am not good enough to make food for others (quality, taste, presentation, etc).

[Anonymous No.16820494]

>>16817700
You have a more point there; I have to say, though, people are getting more narcissistic and fake on the front; studies have shown people have become more narcissistic:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5783345/

[Anonymous No.16821305]

>>16817604
anon is absolutely right

[Anonymous No.16823419]

>>16818662
>individualism
>BAD

[Anonymous No.16823427]

It makes me cringe when people list cooking as a hobby or interest they have on their dating profile. Congratulations, you know how to feed yourself. You know how to sustain your own life. Is bathing an interest of yours as well? Tying your shoes?

[Anonymous No.16823795]

Their parents are niggers that didn't teach em cause they were drinking and smoking meth.

[Anonymous No.16823801]

>>16823795
>niggers
No racism on blue boards

[Anonymous No.16823809]

Thank god my group of friends were a bunch of fucking nerds so when we got together on a weekend we would cook some interesting dishes.
I think my favorite one we ever did was Steak Diane - flambeing something is really fun

[Anonymous No.16823810]

>>16823801
>sensitive snowflake
no faggots on blue boards either

[Anonymous No.16823825]

I once looked up how to Julian carrots because I saw tv and YouTube chefs do it so easily and thought there was some kind of trick I was failing to understand. I just lack knife practice and skills. And I feel a lot of people are like that with cooking in general; they see the food made by professionals in the magazine pictures, and think they can’t cook because they can’t get the food to look like that, or taste as good as that looks. Plus kitchen tidiness is an issue and took me too long to learn.

[Anonymous No.16824895]

>>16817350
No fucking idea. My ex wife could not even make rice. Never marry a woman that can't cook for you.

[Anonymous No.16824918]

Cooking is an easy to pick up skill which means a lot of people will get into cooking, see that it tastes worse than whatever they can buy and then stop bothering with it.

You need to hone your cooking skills and palette. It seems like most people nowadays don't really want to learn a skill.

[Anonymous No.16825108]

>>16817350
I don’t know why I can’t, everything just tastes like garbage that I cook. I’ve been trying for about a year to get eggs down. They always taste awful and look like puke. I cooked 3 eggs today and one almost looked semi-normal, but the other 2 ended up looking they were hit by a truck. They were also 3 months expired, which may have something to do with it.

I tried to do a steak the other day and it was like eating a shoe tongue. I’m close to giving up because I’m just wasting money at this point.

[Anonymous No.16825607]

>>16825108
You need to work on entry level stuff first, like hamburger helper and Box macaroni, or baking chicken tendies.

[Anonymous No.16825657]

>>16817880
Not that guy but i think you should steam or or bake it bro.

[Anonymous No.16825692]

>>16817382
Are you Indian?

[Anonymous No.16825729]

because people are generally dumb and lazy, especially non white

[Anonymous No.16825735]

>>16817350
I learned a lot about cooking from doing mushrooms. High ish heat don't touch em, and you can Deglaze the pan for a sauce after too.

[Anonymous No.16825746]

>>16817350
I dunno. I didn't know how to cook and I just started watching food wishes and replicating his recipes, then I started making more complex recipes.

I still cook better when using a recipe, but now I know the basic concepts of cooking, and can make pretty advanced dishes if just following instructions.

Sad reality of the world: Many people cannot simply follow instructions to the letter.

[Anonymous No.16825747]

>make ground beef
>essentially put in spices I want it to taste like
>all to taste
>ground beef tastes delicious and is cooked properly
It's just that simple

[Anonymous No.16825758]

>>16817350
The cooking is one thing, it's doing the dishes that's another. The average person doesn't like the idea of 45 mins of work for 5-10 minutes of enjoying a meal. It's fucked up but I've seen this complaint again and again.

[Anonymous No.16825762]

>>16825607
Cooking boxed foods doesn't help you learn how to properly cook real meat. He needs to stop rushing when he cooks and take his fucking time.

[Anonymous No.16825768]

>>16824918
>cooking is easy to pick up
>food tastes terrible
Therefore it is not easy

[Anonymous No.16825770]

>>16825758
This and I agree with it. I also hate prepping/cutting veggies. Still love cooking though

[Anonymous No.16825780]

>>16823427
Self sustaining cooking is defined as cooking what you need to eat. I.e. Chicken breast and some break.

Hobby cooking is learning complex dishes and recipes that are actually time consuming and take skill+patience.

So you're a fag who can't cook anything good, and they are making truffle risotto.

[Anonymous No.16825786]

>>16820259
That means you can't cook.

[Anonymous No.16825808]

>>16817389
>a guy on grindr (age 65)
bruh did we need to know that? sort yourself out

[Anonymous No.16825870]

I can "cook" in the sense that I can do some very basic things to sustain my life if I need to, but it doesn't come out as anything special or anything I'd do for someone else. Because of that, I avoid cooking. It's also too easy to be very wasteful with food as a single guy. Let's say I want to make beef stroganoff using one of the first recipes I see online.

If I don't want to make enough to feed five people, I'm almost guaranteed to have leftover onion, steak, mushrooms, noodles, maybe garlic... stuff like beef broth, sour cream, and worcestershire will last and can be added to a lot, but the other stuff is going to spoil and go to waste. I rarely use flour, so it'll probably just take up space I don't have.

Unless I make a meal plan (which I don't want to do, it takes away my flexibility), I'm wasting money, and it's probably not going to be as good as getting it from a restaurant where someone's making it every day, 8 hours a day.

>>16817604
>On top of that, many poor people work difficult, physically and mentally exhausting jobs, then have long commutes on top of that, and simple don't have the energy to cook. It's not even laziness. If you are out of executive function you are out of executive function.
This too. I just started a new job where I work from home, but too often I'd leave the office at 6, have a half hour commute, some days want to work out, and then need to be in bed by 9 to get ready to do it all again. Spending an hour cooking and cleaning is a no go. I make nearly $70 an hour, I can afford to get food from somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.16825882]

no technique, no planning, no will to clean up afterwards
simple as

[Anonymous No.16826405]

>>16817350
Why the fuck should I cook when I make enough money to pay for food? Stop being poor and it’s no an issue.

[Anonymous No.16826423]

>>16826405
Why the fuck are you on this board

[Anonymous No.16826442]

>>16826405
I mean if you're eating healthy that's okay, but that's unlikely.

[Anonymous No.16826445]

>>16823427
There's doing cooking as a chore, and doing it as a passion. Are you autistic?

[Anonymous No.16826460]

>>16825770
it's a drag but I just put on some background music or a podcast and go into a meditative state knowing it'll become a good meal makes it worth it

[Anonymous No.16826463]

>>16826423
FOOD and cooking, anon.

[Anonymous No.16826465]

>>16817350
Most of those people don't taste or smell during the process. Some see directions, follow them to a T, and then expect the food to taste good without tasting or smelling along the way.

[Anonymous No.16826495]

>>16826405
If you're loaded enough to pay for a personal chef to cook healthy, nutritious meals for you, good job! Keep it going.
If you're paying GrubHub to ship you restaurant slop every night, enjoy the process of your slow fattening and growing health problems.

[Anonymous No.16826597]

>>16817350
Cooking takes at least some patience, and as many others stated people are fucking lazy. Seriously take the simplest thing, frying an egg. Melt some butter, gently crack egg in and wait a little bit, cover to cook top or let bottom get crispy till top cooks through.
But people can't wait, put the heat too high, look at phone, forget butter or some other dumb shit.
It's literally just waiting.
Then imagine these subhuman shots trying to gently flip the egg to make an over easy egg, they can't. They're not even human desu.
Worst part is unless you're getting fancy cooking a decent meal doesn't take much longer than that boxed food you throw into the oven.
Using a microwave should be punishable by death.

[Anonymous No.16826629]

>>16826597
>It's literally just waiting.
That's why it's so pointless. People have shit to get done. Sitting there and monitoring a pan, prepping ingredients, making sure shit doesn't burn, cleaning up... I already have a job that takes up my day.

>Using a microwave should be punishable by death.
Nah.

[Anonymous No.16826907]

>>16817350
That burger would be better if it were two thinner patties instead of one fat one.

[Anonymous No.16827504]

I'm so slow at meal prep. I just sous vide chicken breasts for dinner meal preps, get some brown rice, sear that and maybe some random veggie like carrots or brussel sprouts but honestly i'm lazy and don't bother with even the veggies half the time.

[Anonymous No.16827535]

>>16820259
I'm gonna say this>>16825786
In my experience people aren't too hard to impress. I'm not gonna prepare anything close to what you'd get at a 5 star or some shit but people will think your God for making an andoi and beef burger or a nice gazpacho. Shit, even a nice tomato sauce from scratch makes them praise you.

[Anonymous No.16827549]

>>16825762
well baking frozen items, deep frying stuff like chicken nuggets, and cooking ground beef helped me learn alot about temp and searing.

the only dumb thing I did was deep frying in a normal pan with a gas stove. I could have easily gave myself some nasty burns. I think you should only deep fry that way if you have years of cooking experience.

[Anonymous No.16827559]

>>16817604
Very well put

[Anonymous No.16827560]

>>16827549
Hmm, or at least know how and be equipped to extinguish a kitchen fire.

[Anonymous No.16827577]

>>16819061
Link or source things you personally value and think are good books or resources to have. Spread the good info for anons

[Anonymous No.16827592]

>>16817604
>Many older men view cooking as a women's job, so for them learning to cook is emasculating, and admitting knowledge of cooking is effeminate. They only know how to grill meat.
Where are these men? I grew up in a pretty hyper masculine family. The type of family where physically fighting is a fun pass time for the men and the women are used to it enough they don't even stir when a fist fight breaks out. The type where a funny prank is slapping your buddy's deep cut right after he almost lopped his finger off in a circular saw. (bonus points if the slap includes a rag soaked in lacquer thinner). My grandfather loved cooking breakfast and my pop loves cooking just about anything. He especially loves grilling yeah, but he makes some bomb ass soups too.

[Anonymous No.16827629]

>>16817350
My parents were awful at cooking so I never got a good point of reference to start with, it took me a very long time for my food to stop tasting like actual garbage, I even poisoned myself twice accidentally for getting shit wrong.

[Anonymous No.16827632]

>>16817604
Cooking is no longer a necessary life skill when you can buy premade anything or go out to eat every night. Probably why so many people are poor and then some when they waste so much money on that crap.

And learning to cook is probably intimidating if you're a 20-30 year old boomer who can't even prepare a fried egg.

Baking is a lot more forgiving since you can follow an exact recipe word for word. But yeah, even something simple like a basic quickbread or cake could take a while to make if you've never done it.

Or maybe they're just retards with no incentive because they unironically don't realize they can cook certain dishes. It might just seem genuinely impossible to replicate a food they like, even if it's actually relatively easy to make.

[Anonymous No.16827706]

there's really no excuse in this day and age where you can literally just follow any half decent youtube video. basic reading comprehension is all you need.

[Anonymous No.16827763]

>>16818070
I vomited reading this.

[Anonymous No.16827771]

Takes a lot of mental energy to buy all the ingredients, prepare, dirty dishes, finish, clean the mess, etc on top of an already busy schedule.
There's a reason women used to be dedicated to just cooking and maintaining the house, it's exhausting to do all that shit after you just spent 10 hours working on something else

[Anonymous No.16827959]

>>16818941
The best manual is to read the 'Salt' chapter of this book. The #1 reason home cooking tastes like dumpster trash is using salt incorrectly.
http://library.lol/main/0F39A8D8C5E11B8F554FE991C9EC453C
Also watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0v32jYkSi0
That's the only fundamental you need to know to make anything taste good. No recipes, no ingredients, just salt and the thing you want to eat. Plus a little tabasco sauce at the end if you want a Michelin star.

[Anonymous No.16828035]

>>16827763
That says more about you than anything else pussy

[Anonymous No.16828060]

Why is the consensus on /ck/ that all normies can't cook? Probably 1 in 5 or 10 normies can cook better, and anyone with some semblance of cooking experience in a job mogs a home cook. It's hilarious to see most of you cope with the fact you learned a basic life skill late

[Anonymous No.16828228]

cooking is legitimately scary when you know nothing about it and your parents spoiled you enough into never needing to know how. i didn't even realize burger meat were patties formed by packages of spaghetti meat until a chef friend told me. the idea of sticking a piece of chicken in a pan is terrifying because there's just so much you don't know, and messing up can mean an upset stomach at best, a fucked up kitchen at worst

[Anonymous No.16828492]

>>16828228
Jesus christ Americans fix your shit

[Anonymous No.16828518]

>>16828228
spaghetti meat?

[Anonymous No.16828824]

>>16828228
It’s called ground beef motherfucker

[Anonymous No.16828837]

>>16828228
>i didn't even realize burger meat were patties formed by packages of spaghetti meat

[Anonymous No.16828869]

People I know that don’t cook well had parents that never cooked and only ate frozen shit. They ate dry ass chicken breasts and boiled veggies. Thank I grew up with my mom making sunday roasts and beef wellington and shit all the time for fun

[Anonymous No.16828928]

Is this an american thing? Most people I know (mostly in their 20's) cook at least 90% of their meals.

[Anonymous No.16828935]

>>16828928
it's a class thing, people with leisure time and some spare money for nice ingredients and nice tools have considered it a virtue to know how to cook for the last generation and a half, but poor/working class mostly just cook on major holidays and that's about it. when you hear someone say "nobody cooks" what they mean is nobody in their peer group cooks. all the seething about japanese knives or organic produce comes from that kind of people

[Anonymous No.16828962]

Please, I'm a broke brazilian student. What the fuck do I do? Mom's old school, "woman cook, men work", etc, so she'd never make me do shit up, it's always me fucking up alone with yt. The pots are fucked up, the fry pan is old, good shit are expensive. Where should I go? Show me the path, anons, I'm starting to get desperate.

[Anonymous No.16829035]

>>16817416
>One of them tried to cook a steak and basically boiled it; low heat, too long.
Too right. You need to sear steak before you boil it.

[Anonymous No.16829963]

>>16827771
Please go back to /pol

[Anonymous No.16829998]

>>16829963
Take your meds schizo he's not saying anything ground breaking. That's exactly what women had to do and that shit wasn't easy either back then. Washing machines, dishwashers, stoves they didn't have that shit. Go down to the river, build a fire, women worked their asses off only a couple generations ago.

[Anonymous No.16831029]

>>16827771
It's really sad the working partner/domestic partner system has been placed out of reach for so many people. This isn't even sexist because it's not really locked to working male/domestic female, or even a heterosexual couple.

[Anonymous No.16831044]

>>16828228
>>16828492
there are a lot of people like this all over the world, not just america. yes there are some people who are just low energy or retarded or something, but there are those out there who are otherwise competent, normal people who seem like they should be able to cook just as a regular life skill, but can't. these are the people OP is asking about

for these people, they see cooking like women see DIY, or old people see using a computer. people who can do DIY look at people who can't do DIY like everyone in this thread is dabbing on people who can't cook, they wonder how you can be such a clueless retard.

>to get good at DIY you need to do projects, to get good at cooking you need to cook meals.
>to start a DIY project you need some expensive tools and somewhere to keep them, same with cooking.
>if you fuck up DIY or cooking, you've wasted a lot of time, you've got tools you may never use again.
>with cooking it's even worse because you might make yourself sick, plus you might have to eat whatever shitty thing you made wrong. the alternative is literally going hungry which might fuck up your whole day.

even if you get good at cooking for yourself, other people might not like it, so it's hard to gauge whether you're getting better by getting other people to taste it.

I think the best bet for people like this are 'cook at home' boxes of ingredients like pic related. they get the exact ingredients they need to make the meal, and the exact instructions on how to do the preparation, which demystifies the whole thing. with a promise like 'ready in 20 minutes' that also helps them deal with the possibility of failure, i.e. "I can try to make the meal and if it's a disaster we can get takeout in 20 minutes and I don't have to go hungry".

[Anonymous No.16831051]

>>16831044
tldr there's a lot of practical problems which makes it difficult to cook even once, and cooking on a regular basis is really hard if you aren't experienced with the process of cooking or if you don't have a really accurate idea of what the end result will look like

[Anonymous No.16831910]

>>16817423
retards tend to make things cooked in pans attach directly to the pan and turn black, its alot harder to fuck up poaching anything because it doesn't turn into a piece of charcoal after a while just a hard gross edible piece of grey shit

[Anonymous No.16832246]

>>16817388
>>16817409
see also garlic and salt

[Anonymous No.16832248]

>>16829963
Go back to r*ddit you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.16832251]

>>16832246
im rarted

[Anonymous No.16832260]

>>16832248
whats wrong with garlic
fuck you if i cant read, pussy

[Anonymous No.16832283]

>>16832248
im stupid and drunk sorry sir
going to make linguine now

[Anonymous No.16832286]

>>16832260
Nothing
You should pop a raw clove for health
Ganbatte

[Anonymous No.16832765]

>>16817416
>So it's not just laziness, it's shit parenting.
You do know the people have the ability to learn things as adults, right?

[Anonymous No.16832804]

I don't get it either. even if you're a clumsy fuckup like me you can literally place some beef and seasoning in a slow cooker, flip a single switch and bam, delicious homemade meal. I guess people just don't bother to try.

[Anonymous No.16834472]

>>16832251
Smash garlic bulb with hammer
Put butter in pan
Don't burn too long or it'll get bitter
Throw salt at it

[Anonymous No.16834608]

>>16832765
>You do know the people have the ability to learn things as adults, right?
Some do.
A depressingly large people really are that fucking retarded.
Just look at the sheer number of people who own rice cookers.

[Anonymous No.16834632]

>>16832765
Learning hobbies and trivia as an adult, fine. Learning basic life skills as an adult, your parents suck cocks.

[Anonymous No.16834674]

>>16834608
Rice cookers will always cook rice better than a pot, so long as you get one with a locking lid and not one of those stupid cheap ones with a pot lid.

[Anonymous No.16834722]

>heard someone put a dry soba noodles cup in the microwave, expecting a hot and juicy meal
It's the only story I know that someone doesn't understand logic and is ignorant.

[Anonymous No.16834786]

>>16826405
>t. fast food poster

[Anonymous No.16835405]

If I cook that won't leave me with enough time to shitpost on here, and that's my true passion.

[Anonymous No.16835746]

>>16828962
I don't know about brazil but here in mexico, and we seem equally poor in both, you can find decent cooking things on flea markets. You need, in that order of importance, a stainless steel pot, and a pan. Like pic related would be ideal but plastic handles are fine, missing handles are fine. The kind your grandma had with a color coating should be avoided if you're buying old shit, a fucked up coating is no good.
Burned stained steel like pic related is fine, you can clean it with those wire cleaning things after soaking it in white vinegar, you can put some vinegar in the pot and tilt it, clean that side an hour later, and tilt it again until your whole pot is clean.

Get a new but cheap kitchen knife like pic related. If your family has a drawer full of kitchen shit they never use, raid it. Search "sharpen knife mug" and "basic knife skills" on youtube. Be slow and careful at first, knife must be sharp as fuck.

Ask fellow students or your least shitty relatives if their families happen to have pots they don't use they wouldn't mind giving away, as long as it's not scratched as fuck teflon or coated pots with holes you're good. If they give you something shitty, accept it anyway and thank them. If you're too autistic for this step it's fine, just haggle with the flea market guys. If flea markets are not a thing in brazil, look for the cheapest stained steel on the supermartket, the local market, or pawn shops.

Now, you need pantry staples:
- A cheap seed oil that won't burn easily, sunflower, soy or whatever is cheap around you, anon will tell you it's garbage and it kinda is, but you don't have the budget for bulk cooking olive oil so fuck it.
-White flour, a kilo or half a kilo package is fine, don't fall for whole wheat memes just yet.
-Rice
-Dried beans
-Salt, the cheapest is fine
-Pepper, black pepper or allspice or whatever is cheaper around you, 100g will last you a good while. Whole is cheaper.

cont.

[Anonymous No.16835773]

>>16817350
I blame it on the fact that usually their parents didn't cook so they never got used to homecooked meals. My mother always cooked every meal unless she was simply too busy to have the time to do it that night, which was very rare. So I grew up with an appreciation for meals you don't just buy.

[Anonymous No.16835803]

>>16835746
Now you're gonna go to your local place to buy fresh food and LOOK. Look at prices, take notes, see what's cheaper per kilo instead of per package.

All you need to do now is buy a TOTAL of 5 to 8 kilos per week of perishable stuff.
-Meat: Chicken thighs is probably the cheapest, with cheap pork cuts next.
-Onions, you always want one or two
-Potatoes
-Eggs
-Other vegetables, just buy the cheapest per kilo, don't buy more than a kilo or even half a kilo of each thing, you'll get tired of it and it'll rot in your fridge.

If the budget allows it , get
-Garlic
-Butter
-Cheese, getting 250g or mid range priced stuff is better than getting a lot of shitty kraft singles tier cheese.
-Couple pieces of fruit, make sure to fucking eat it
-Expand panty staples to have soy sauce, some sort of msg thing, probably chicken stock powder, dried chillies, dried fruits, oatmeal, different types of beans, lentils, other spices, sugar, etc.

Refer to >>16832290 to know how long you can store stuff, if you don't have a separate door for fridge and freezer, don't trust the freezer, it's for bags of frozen peas and corn at best.

Refer to >>16831897 for some recipes but just searching "cheap [ingredient] recipe" on youtube works. Every ingredient is skippable if you can't afford it, don't fall for meme diets.

Good luck, fag

[Anonymous No.16836000]

>>16817350
its a bunch of factors
old people learned to cook before modern standards of production/cooking/storing food existed, so they boil and burn the shit out of everything afraid of getting germs, and passed this to their kids
most people get hit with cognitive dissonance when they get criticized by a better cook and refuse to change their methods, especially when it involves old family recipes
most people have ruined their palate after a lifetime with overly salty/greasy/sweet food, and cant appreciate anything subtle
few home cooks have proper devices
most people are too lazy to dedicate a couple hours per day to cook, even less to research and improve their cooking
many people are ridiculously afraid of touching raw meat, which is necessary for you to be an actual cook

[Anonymous No.16836029]

>>16817674
There is so much you can cook without meat though...

[Anonymous No.16836082]

>>16818091
yeah pretty much this. you can jizz into cookie dough and serve it to coworkers and everyone will tell you how great your baked good came out.

[Anonymous No.16836098]

>>16836000
I'm not afraid of touching raw meat, I just have a pathological fear of fire because of being burned a lot as a kid. I can make lots of cold dishes like gazpacho no problem, the issue is heat.

[Anonymous No.16836257]

>tfw talked to a zoomers who said they were lazy and don't want to eat the food they cook even if it's good
Yeah, there is something wrong with these generations.

[Anonymous No.16836279]

>>16817389
God hates the homosexuals

[Anonymous No.16836296]

>>16834608
Ridiculously bad take, wtf are wrong with ricecookers sperg?

[Anonymous No.16836305]

>>16835773
As someone who posted in here and can't really cook, 99% of my food wasn't a home cooked meal, and I rarely remember anything that my parents "cooked" being actual fresh ingredients. Generally everything my parents have made hasn't required a knife until food was on the plate.

It all came out of a box or a bag. Even my dad's best dish, confit de canard, literally involves duck canned in its own fat. He uses canned asparagus as a side with it. I believe he serves it with a sauce packet mix for bearnaise, instead of making his own.

I believe I have never seen my parents prep vegetables or peel a potato or something. Ever. And I'm 35. I don't really know how to prep thanks to that.

[Anonymous No.16836370]

>>16817350
>WAAAH WAAAAH IT TAKES TOO LONG TO COOK
>cooked spicy ground beef with vegetables and rice in 30 minutes
What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.16837312]

>>16835773
I know someone that eats exclusively canned and frozen food, and their parents don't keep anything but butter knives in their house because they're dangerous. This person will probably never learn how to cook if they're this afraid of knives.

[Anonymous No.16837344]

>>16836296
they're the plastic lawnmower of cooking. an adult should needs a rice cooker is signalling loudly that they are a toddler who can't cook properly

[Anonymous No.16837605]

>>16817604
this

[Anonymous No.16839197]

>>16817350
>recipe says to cook chicken in a pan to temperature and season to taste
>doesn't say what oils you should cook with
>doesn't say how long you should cook it or what temperature
>a novice isn't going to understand what 'season to taste' means
>even if they do they won't know how much of a seasoning to put on or what seasoning at all they should use
>won't know what to look for when buying the chicken so might get the wrong cuts of meat, or low-quality cuts of the right kind
There's simply too many variables that greatly affect the outcome that newbies can easily be overwhelmed by, if they even detect it. You can only learn about this stuff if you were taught it thoroughly, looking up more information will inevitably leave some out. For instance, a recipe for that burger in the OP pic probably focuses mainly on the beef patty and how to cook it. It'll then say to just 'add bacon' on the burger. A novice will have been left completely helpless as to how to make the bacon in the way that's best for that burger. You were a novice too, once, don't pretend you weren't a fumbling bumbling retard about things because you were. To not understand why some people can't cook very well is to not understand people or life, a major indicator of autism. So get checked and GTFO, ya pussy.

[Anonymous No.16839209]

>>16836370
As compared to ordering food, which takes two minutes at most. Or compared to microwaving frozen shit, which takes 30 seconds. Both of which produce little to no dishes to clean.

I can cook and I love doing so, but I can see why some people wouldn't want to.

[Anonymous No.16839529]

>>16817350
I live in a shitty 25m2 flat with two cooking plates being too close together. I have no regular oven, only a mini one. I tried to make a stew by following a recipe and I managed to pull it off, but it took way too much time and effort because i constantly had room problems and I had to move stuff away. Without a proper kitchen even cooking average stuff is a massive pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.16839537]

>>16839529
Why are European houses so bad?

[Anonymous No.16839594]

>>16839537
They stand longer, but everything is too expensive. I would moved away from there, but when I looked around in my area, the prices for just twice the area skyrocket, like 2-3 times my current living space. It's a joke.

[Anonymous No.16839632]

>>16836279
God can't hate if god doesn't exist retard.

[Anonymous No.16839647]

Whenever I cook, I like to throw shit together. I call it ... *drum roll* ... the PIG POT.

[Anonymous No.16839663]

>>16839647
It's catchy. I'd like to try some of the pig pot.

[Anonymous No.16839709]

>>16839663
Eh, it's just stuff like spaetzle & gyros meat thrown on the pan, add peas & carrot pieces, finish it off with some cheese and then throw it all into a pot. Not very original.

[Anonymous No.16839770]

>>16839709
Functional meals are the most soulful cooking. The purpose should ultimately be nourishment with whatever food you can get. Doesn't always need to be fancy. It would take a lot of pressure off cooking if everyone saw it that way.

[Anonymous No.16839970]

>>16817350
My parents grew up in communist Czechoslovakia where food wasn't always in high supply. Sometimes they had to wait in long lines in the freezing cold just to buy fresh meat. Beef was almost nonexistent in their cuisine because the communists would only slaughter old cows that couldn't produce milk anymore so it tasted like shit and nobody bought it. Bread with salt was considered an acceptable breakfast.

After the fall of the wall, neither of them learned to cook because their taste buds were basically dead from 20+ years of tasteless food so anything with flavor was disgusting to them. My dad's favorite dish was literally plain lasagna pasta with salt and pepper. Both of them would water down juice to the point of it tasting almost like water.

When we moved to the states, our new neighbor gave us a spice rack with twenty different spices and my mom never bothered to use any of them, saying they "ruined" the taste of food. Some of the dishes she cooked during my childhood were:
>plain pasta with ketchup
>toast with ketchup spread on top
>salted chicken breast with ketchup and rice with ketchup on the side
>boiled potatoes with salt and ketchup
>unseasoned fresh veggies as a side
>spare ribs boiled in a crock pot with gristle and membrane still attatched

She used to call me a picky eater but whenever I stayed at a friend's house I would clean my plate because their moms didn't hate cooking. I was only picky about my mom's food because it was just unbearable. She couldn't even cook the main food and sides together so one item would always be served at room temperature. I would bring easy recipes from my friend's moms and teachers to her and she never cooked a single one because they were too much work for her.

It only got better when she gave up on cooking altogether and started feeding us frozen/boxed meals with instructions on the packaging. It was super unhealthy but at least they didn't taste like literal garbage.

[Anonymous No.16840008]

When I'm watching some crap on Hulu or Peacock, where I can't skip past ads, I'll occasionally get a meal-ingredients-delivery commercial, like Blue Apron or the like.

>Millennials dancing around kitchen
>"I can't believe I cooked this amazing dish!"
>Meal looks insanely easy and basic. Like cooked brocolli with seasoning


Honestly, it's an indictment on boomers & genXers that raised these retarded kids to not know basic cooking fundamentals

[Anonymous No.16840052]

>>16817350
>it's so easy to follow a recipe it feels impossible to be unable to cook.
You are suffering from D-K. You underestimate the amount of knowledge and skill required to follow a recipe. Most people can't read and follow simple instructions. Especially if those instructions include things like "cream the butter" or "kneading" or other specialized terms that they have zero clue about.

[Anonymous No.16840079]

>>16840052
You do not know what Dunning-Kruger is, like 99% of the people who bring it up.

[Anonymous No.16840092]

>>16840079
So please enlighten me.

[Anonymous No.16840112]

>>16840092
The Dunning-Kruger effect is merely thinking that you have greater mastery of a topic than you really do because you've started learning about it but you haven't learned enough to be aware of how much you still don't know.

[Anonymous No.16840123]

>>16817681
>>16817674

While you're at it, if the texture of raw chicken puts you off of cooking, invest in latex condoms so you never reproduce

[Anonymous No.16840151]

>>16840008
I'll let you in on a little secret : the people acting in ads are paid actors who act like the director pays them to act. Ads do not show authentic reactions, nor anything close to reality.

[Anonymous No.16840160]

>>16817350
>why is everyone around me stupid
You're telling me more about you and your peers than you realize

[Anonymous No.16840175]

>>16840008
>ads are real life right

[Anonymous No.16840198]

>>16817350
i live in a shitty apartment with a shitty stove

[Anonymous No.16840205]

>>16825758
5mins?! Are you just swallowing your food like a damn duck and not enjoying it?

[Anonymous No.16840223]

>>16817350
Cooking takes practice. If you have no practice you won't be able to make shit.
Every food looks easy to make and you just follow the instructions, but you will mess something up. You have to figure out what went wrong and try again until you get it right.
Something as simple as cooking a steak or making a grilled cheese sandwich is easy to mess up at first. If you're not confident with it you'll mess it up, temperature too high or too low, being impatient afraid of overcooking it and flipping it too much

[Anonymous No.16840251]

>>16839970
Interesting story. Similar to my childhood except my parents have no story or excuse.

[Anonymous No.16840302]

>>16840112
Yes, that is half of it. The half that most people know about. The other half is people that have mastered a topic underestimating the amount of knowledge and skill required to master that topic.

[Anonymous No.16840423]

People don't have time for a million errands, a million hours of shopping with a million leftovers.

Stop being so unemployed.

[Anonymous No.16840440]

>>16836370
30 minutes is a long time when you get 3 hours a day or so away from things centered around being at work.

[Anonymous No.16840495]

>>16840423
>million errands
Go to one store to buy stuff counts as "million errands" now?

[Anonymous No.16840714]

>>16828228
Honest question: what is someone like yourself even doing on a food and cooking board?

[Anonymous No.16840719]

>>16817670
Western women in cities. Race doesn't really factor into it and there are almost as many future wine aunts downtown as there are current wine aunts in the suburbs.