/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.16804373]

My mother yelled at me for putting a still warm pot of stew into the refridgerator. It was off the stove for more than an hour, it was decently warm but not steaming hot. I was going to sleep and didnt want to leave it there overnight to spoil. Was Ininnthe wrong?

[Anonymous No.16804374]

You have to be at least 18 to use this website

[Anonymous No.16804375]

Have you tried not being underage?

[Anonymous No.16804379]

>>16804373
Yes. Put pot in cold water for some timw and then put it in the fridge.

[Anonymous No.16804382]

>>16804373
Piss in the pot

[Anonymous No.16804386]

[Anonymous No.16804388]

>>16804373
I do it all the time. Only thing I worry about is putting the hot metal on cold glass shelves, so I throw a pot holder underneath. I also try to make sure it isn't touching anything around it.

[Anonymous No.16804389]

>>16804373
If you put it in the fridge while it's still warm you might end up getting food poisoning.

[Anonymous No.16804393]

>>16804389
I hear if you put warm food into the fridge it can cause an unstable wormhole to form and collapse in your kitchen causing a black hole to destroy the entire solar system

[Anonymous No.16804394]

dont do it again, you can make mustard gas doing that.

[Anonymous No.16804395]

>>16804389
That makes no sense. Unless you're talking about it heating it up the other food in the fridge, which could make sense depending on how hot it is.

[Anonymous No.16804401]

>>16804389
cooler environment means it passes through the danger zone much faster than sitting out in room temperature air. shit bait or retarded I really can't tell.

[Anonymous No.16804407]

>>16804373
Great way to end up fucking up your refrigerator.
Long story short the condensation of the clashing temps will cauuse frost to form.

[Anonymous No.16804421]

>>16804401

[Anonymous No.16804429]

>>16804373
>Was Ininnthe wrong?
No. CDC recommends throwing perishables that have been at room temp for over two hours.

[Anonymous No.16804432]

>>16804407
>refrigerator.
>frost
:^(

[Anonymous No.16804434]

>>16804429
>recommends throwing *OUT* perishables

God, I wish the 4chins let you edit posts.

[Anonymous No.16804440]

>>16804432
Yes. even No frost models can get it if you put hot shit in them.

[Anonymous No.16804471]

>>16804440
>Yes. even No frost models can get it if you put hot shit in them.

I'll say it again, please try a little harder this time:
>>16804407
>refrigerator.
>frost
:^(

Extra special hint: refrigerator, NOT freezer.

[Anonymous No.16804712]

>>16804373
>Was Ininnthe wrong?
no

[Anonymous No.16804740]

>>16804373
Yes. A full pot should never go in the fridge unless you are brining a turkey. Put the soup onto glass or metal containers, then refrigerate.

[Anonymous No.16804749]

>>16804373
>Was Ininnthe wrong?
Is it your mom’s house, refrigerator, and pot?
Then yeah, buy your own shit.

[Anonymous No.16804753]

>>16804740
A pot isn't a metal container?

[Anonymous No.16804760]

>>16804373
>Was Ininnthe wrong?
yes you retard, it will take as much as 2 days for the fridge to bring that pot down to temp. if you want to do that put it in an ice bath first.

stop being dumb.

[Anonymous No.16804766]

>>16804373
chill it by running cold tapwater around the container. It doesn't take running the tap at full open either, the only thing that really matters is how much surface area of the container contacts the water plus a little bit of circulation.

[Anonymous No.16804768]

>>16804760
>as much as 2 days for the fridge to bring that pot down to temp.
Not OP, but still super skeptical.

[Anonymous No.16804776]

Yes, you were in the wrong. We have to chill stock with frozen water bottles before putting them in the walk in.

[Anonymous No.16804793]

>>16804373
Generally you don't want to put hot/warm things in the fridge because it heats up the inside making the fridge run when it doesn't have to.
If you're poor then you're in the wrong. If you're not poor then it's not really a big deal.

[Anonymous No.16804800]

>>16804793
>it heats up the inside making the fridge run when it doesn't have to.
What the fuck does this mean? The function of a fridge is to make things cold. If I put something in it because I want it to be cold, the fridge will run the condenser to perform its function of making the thing cold. It has to run to do the thing it's supposed to do.

[Anonymous No.16804803]

>>16804373
>My mother yelled at me for putting a still warm pot of stew into the refridgerator.
And what was *she* doing?
Lots of people say chill it, and that's right, but...
If she didn't do anything about it, your action was the lesser of two evils.

[Anonymous No.16804811]

>>16804760
Protip: don't buy a secondhand craigslist fridge from China

[Anonymous No.16804812]

>>16804768
ok.
A modern fridge uses cold air from the freezer section circulated through the refrigerator section to cool it.

when first turned on the instructions for a fridge says not to put food in it for at least 24 hours as it takes that long to go from 75°f to 40°f.

placing a large pot of warm water in a fridge will quickly warm the whole fridge to over 40° (the max safe temp for your fridge).

The fridge will sense the temp rising and start running more often but it's not designed to quickly cool such a large volume of water.

Every day I put 1/2 gallon of water in the fridge. that water is about room temperature, it takes 8+ hours to bring that down to the 37° my fridge is set to. so I keep 3 1/2 gallons of water so I always have at least one that is cool.

Placing the water in the fridge raises the temp inside by about 2 degrees over that 8 hours.

In a few months I will be moving to a new house, one of the things I will be doing is ditching my standard fridge and getting a restaurant style fridge and separate freezer.

those are designed to directly cool the inside space faster and more accurately than your standard one.

>>16804811
it's not.

[Anonymous No.16804822]

>>16804812
Bro you bought a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.16804826]

>>16804822
fuck off know nothing.

[Anonymous No.16804828]

>>16804826
I know if your fridge takes 24 hours to cool every time you put something in it you got jewed hard by the Chinese

[Anonymous No.16804829]

>>16804822
>>16804828
99% of all fridges made all work the same. doesn't matter the price or brand.

[ieatinmycar No.16804832]

>>16804373
Is she an immigrant? My dumb parents do the same thing. Mom makes soup and just leaves it overnight for it to completely cool. Dad makes some shitty pork and dairy dish that nobody eats, leaves it for hours and hours and then put it in the fridge.
Both are very unhealthy people for their age and the quality of food and healthcare that they have access to. It's a shame, but they won't listen.

[Anonymous No.16804835]

>>16804829
I've literally never in my life had a fridge that worked like the useless piece of shit you're describing.

[Anonymous No.16804837]

>>16804812
Still not hearing about 2 days to cool an unknown quantity of "warm" stew.
Can w just agree a cold water bath is a good idea, and leaving perishables out overnight is a much worse idea?
Then just close the thread, and maybe move on to arguing about whether a hot dog is a sandwich?

[Anonymous No.16804854]

>Hey what's that thing you put your food in do?
>It makes things cold, but only tiny things and it's really slow, and you can't put things in it unless they're already cold
>Wow what a wonder of modern technology

[Anonymous No.16804860]

>>16804829
>99% of fridges only have one evaporator
>doesn’t matter price or brand
Except for, you know, all those dual-evaporator refrigerators available from various brands at all sorts of price-levels

[Anonymous No.16804878]

>>16804471
refrigerator compressors can freeze, anon
ESPECIALLY when they're subjected to excess moisture

[Anonymous No.16804884]

Just boil it again and don't open the lid then it can sit overnight in its own hermetic environment.

[Anonymous No.16804900]

>>16804884
Yeah, how about no.
It sounds like you're thinking about something similar to canning (Mason jars), but without an airtight lid.
The real problem with stuff like this the same as when people leave butter out at room temperature.
You're _probably_ not going to wind up with severe food poisoning, so that leads people to feel vindicated about obviously bad ideas.
One person doing this? Probably not a big deal.
A thousand people doing this? Some of them are going to wind up in the hospital.

[Anonymous No.16804903]

>>16804800
I don't feel like explaining the basics of thermodynamics to you.

[Anonymous No.16804915]

I just put stuff out on the balcony to cool during wintertime.

[Anonymous No.16804919]

>>16804903
Nigger I own a fridge and I use it daily, I don't need you to explain how it works because I'm not retarded. I put things in it, it runs to perform its intended function. Unless you're putting something extremely hot in there, something that is actively generating heat, or your fridge is a cheaply made non-functional piece of shit, there is absolutely not going to be an issue.

[Anonymous No.16804921]

>>16804900
I leave my butter out on the counter for up to week and it's fine. Everyone concerned about putting a warm pot of stew in the fridge is used to shitty refrigerators, or used to them being worse in the past.

[Anonymous No.16804928]

>>16804915
Put your fridge out on the balcony to outjew the jew

[Anonymous No.16804949]

>>16804812
>A modern fridge uses cold air from the freezer section circulated through the refrigerator section to cool it.
Lol no.
That’s like saying “a modern car has a 4cyl engine”.
Yeah plenty do. And plenty do not. I

[Anonymous No.16804951]

>>16804921
>leave my butter out on the counter for up to week and it's fine
No, it's fucking not. You're just lucky and/or deliberately ignoring symptoms of gastric distress.

[Anonymous No.16804953]

It occurs to me this retard probably doesn't understand how his fridge works because he's a penniless pajeet who never has anything stored in it. If you keep your fridge stocked with food as intended there's a larger thermal mass that will resist large changes in temperature due to the amount of energy required, Mohammed.

[Anonymous No.16804964]

>>16804951
The worst thing that happens to butter if it's left out too long is it can go rancid which will affect the taste but is in no way dangerous Karen.

If you live in a first world country with air conditioning and you keep it covered you're never going to have an issue.

[Anonymous No.16804966]

>>16804919
>I own a fridge and I use it daily
>says this like it's an accomplishment
PUH-thetic

[Anonymous No.16804976]

>>16804373
I'm more irked you put the whole pot in there instead of taking the time to put it in a container. Yes I'm sure you guys planned on reheating the food later, but that never happens.

>>16804921
My family started leaving butter out in one of those dishes some years ago. At first I was worried, but no one's ever gotten sick from it as far as I can tell. Even use it myself from time to time.

[Anonymous No.16804998]

>>16804951
Salted butter is perfectly fine being left out for a week at room temperature.
You're either thinking of unsalted butter or you live in a desert.

[Anonymous No.16805001]

>>16804900
>It sounds like you're thinking about something similar to canning
No, it's not canning because I'm not putting it up in the pantry for four weeks before opening it nitwit.

[Anonymous No.16805005]

>>16804373
Yell back that you're not a poor boy from a poor family.
Then passively aggressively text her an article on how your fridge isn't from the 1950s.

Alternatively, learn that you are a poor boy from a poor family who has a fridge from the 1950s.

[Anonymous No.16805022]

>>16804393
Had it happen to me once. I covered the wormhole with a cardboard and didn't tell mom, I think she might be mad if I do tell her.

[Anonymous No.16805024]

>>16804393
kek this made me laugh harder than I should have

[Anonymous No.16805026]

>>16804900
It sounds like he's retarded is what it sounds like

[Anonymous No.16805038]

>>16805026
>boiling doesn't kill organisms
Go back to middle school science.

[Anonymous No.16805044]

>>16804884
This but let it cool in an oven that's turned off.

[Anonymous No.16805053]

>>16805038
Nigger you think a pot with a lid on it is a "hermetic environment", don't reproduce.

[Anonymous No.16805063]

>>16804928
It might actually get too cold for that at times. Most fridges don’t have a heating element for when the outside is colder than the target temp.

[Anonymous No.16805064]

>>16805053
Already have and did my process for soups and stews all their lives and they are in college now.

proof is in the pudding isn't it?

[Anonymous No.16805073]

>make clam chowder in fuck huge stock pot
>Parents don't bother to put it away and just leave it out and eat it over the next three days.

What the fuck is wrong with boomers.

[Anonymous No.16805075]

"Room temp butter" guy here.
Did some research, and It turns out I'm wrong about the butter thing.
Still seems super gross.
Definitely NOT wrong about "boil the stew and leave the lid on, though. (researched that too)

[Anonymous No.16805077]

>>16805064
Putting a soup through college is a waste of money desu

[Anonymous No.16805079]

>>16805077
they goot better marks than you did

[Anonymous No.16805082]

>>16805075
>I'm wrong about the butter thing.
Oops, for clarity, I was wrong about butter needing refrigeration, it doesn't.
Still seems super weird.
Don't even get me started on eggs. (Euros know what I mean).
But would it really kill you to put perishables in the fucking fridge?

[Anonymous No.16805085]

>>16805082
You're wrong about the boil the stew thing too since you must not have known I was putting it in the fridge after it cools to room temp or so.

[Anonymous No.16805092]

>>16805085
>you must not have known I was putting it in the fridge after it cools to room temp
>>16804884
>boil it again and don't open the lid then it can sit overnight in its own hermetic environment.
Let's keep our story straight, shall we?

[Anonymous No.16805094]

>>16805082
If it keeps at room temp it doesn't need refrigeration retard. I bet you keep your bread in the fridge too.

[Anonymous No.16805096]

>>16805092
yeah, overnight is cooled to room temp.

[Anonymous No.16805099]

>>16805092
>GOALPOSTS! GOALPOSTS! I NOTICED AN INCONSISTENCY AND NOW I'M NO LONGER REQUIRED TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT!

[Anonymous No.16805102]

>>16805094
>If it keeps at room temp
If you mean butter, then yeah, it keeps for days instead of months.
If you mean the stew, my linguistically challenged friend?
Then no.

[Anonymous No.16805106]

>>16805082
>But would it really kill you to put perishables in the fucking fridge?

>Ah yes, there is literally no reason to put this thing in the fridge but I think I will so that it's more difficult to spread and doesn't taste as good. I am very smart.

[Anonymous No.16805110]

>>16804951
If you don’t live in a dirt-floor hut with no electricity in Cambodia, with your butter laying out uncovered on a large leaf or something, it will be just fine.

[Anonymous No.16805117]

>>16805102
I'm not advocating for leaving stews out, that's the retard who thinks fridges don't cool things.

With butter and eggs which have not had their protective coating removed, there's no reason to keep them cold because it does nothing but degrade quality. You don't need butter to keep for months while you're using it, you set one stick out in your butter dish to use and store the rest in the fridge/freezer. If it takes you more than a week or two to use it then stop buying butter.

[Anonymous No.16805154]

>>16805117
>that's the retard who thinks fridges don't cool things.
yeah we all have blast chillers for fridges. Get a fucking clue moron.

[Anonymous No.16805639]

>>16804753
It's massive and clunky and the lid is not secure.

[Anonymous No.16805646]

>>16804812
My fridge has a power cool function. Maybe look into that.

[Anonymous No.16805649]

A fridge isn't some kind of reverse oven, it's just coincidentally cold. If you put something hot in there, it will take a long time to cool down, and heat everything else up in the process. This kind of thermal cycling is bad for bacterial growth.

[Anonymous No.16805650]

>>16805646
oh that's cool, what brand?

[Anonymous No.16805663]

>>16804393
>>16805022
>[Interstellar docking music plays]

[Anonymous No.16805705]

>>16805649
>it's just coincidentally cold
What the fuck are you on about? A fridge actively cools the space inside, that's how refrigeration works. How well it can do that and how quickly is determined by the way it's designed, and they're obviously designed to keep the refrigerated space well insulated so that you have to run the compressor as little as possible, but if the temperature of the space inside goes above the preset threshold, it starts running again to get it back to where it should be. Unless you're replacing the majority of the contents of your fridge with freshly-cooked food, you are not going to catastrophically heat the interior of your fridge assuming your fridge works.

[Anonymous No.16805729]

God this board is filled with either complete psueds or baits and I guess I'm just as dumb for even questioning this but fuck it
Have you guys every actually tried putting a thermometer in a fridge (a modern day, reasonable one. Not some fucking piece of shit that you got for $100)?
Sure, if you put a large volume (say 25%) of something that is 50 degrees warmer than the fridge ambient temp, you can expect to see the fridge ambient temp to rise... 12.5 degrees in a vacuum scenario. That means you would need a huge fucking pot of hot food to do this AND a fridge that doesn't actively cool itself down. Also, assume the average ambient change in temp could be around like 1 degree/minute.
All in all, if you put a normal pot of something that only takes up about 5% of the volume, it would realistically only impact the fridge temp by a couple degrees and not to mention, fridges are built to handle that and so if you would actually monitor the ambient temp while doing this, you likely would see little to no change as I have done plenty of times.

Tldr just give it 30 minutes to an hour off heat and then stick it in if you wanna be crazy about it. Also consider transferring it to a separate container that way your cooling the food off and reducing the leftover heat held by the pot. And don't stick your pot directly on glass unless you know if that glass is rated for high changes in surface temps (I think some fridges use higher quality glass for this reason alone but don't quote me, more commonly it's probably acrylic or some other r plastic material)

[Anonymous No.16805738]

>>16805729
So leave it out until it cools unless you have a blast chiller. Wow that's only been said like 20x's in this thread.

[Anonymous No.16805790]

>>16805738
You're illiterate

[Anonymous No.16805861]

>>16804373
boomers think hot food spoil and poison you if you put it in the fridge.
Just the way they are, nothing will change their minds.

[Anonymous No.16805886]

Use a potholder, put it on the top shelf.
Also, try to start the process of moving out.

[Anonymous No.16805888]

>>16805738
No. Put it in even if it's hot, as long as it's not hot enough to cause contact damage. Unless you have a shit fridge from 1950 or you are an illiterate paranoid ignorant fuckwad.

[Anonymous No.16805925]

>>16804373
Off the stove for at least 40 minutes and you're good to put it in the fridge.

[Anonymous No.16805942]

>>16805790
>>16805888
>you have to have a new fridge with dual coolers and blast chiller and .tempered glass...
Fuck off richie rich.

[Anonymous No.16805958]

>>16804373
a hot pot placed in the fridge significantly raise the temperature inside for several hours.
that means the food has to stay for long at a non-ideal temperature and the fridge compressor has to consume a lot of energy in order to make everything cold again.
If the pot is not too full or big and is only slightly warm, it's not a big deal, but it's always better to bring it to room temperature.
it can be easily done just by placing the entire pot in the sink half submerged in running cold water for like 10-15 minutes

[Anonymous No.16805982]

>100 comment thread about putting soup in a fridge

[Anonymous No.16805993]

>>16805982
And half of the retards think food cools faster in room temp than in the fridge.

[Anonymous No.16806014]

>>16805958
>a hot pot placed in the fridge significantly raise the temperature inside for several hours.
No matter how many times you say this, that's still not how thermodynamics works. Assuming the hot object you place in the fridge isn't so large that it constitutes a significantly large percentage of the total thermal mass inside the fridge, it will not significantly raise the temperature of the rest of the fridge contents unless the item is insanely hot and the fridge is straight up turned off. The worst thing that will happen is the item that was already warm in the first place will take a little while to cool down, but will still do so significantly faster than if you just left it out at room temperature on the stove for an hour or so then put it in the fridge, which is what most people do with leftovers anyway.

[Anonymous No.16806016]

>>16805958
>a hot pot placed in the fridge significantly raise the temperature inside for several hours.
Although you're generally right, I don't know if hot food increases the indoor fridge temp all that much. If it does then that's a problem considering the refrigerator's job is to extract heat.

[Anonymous No.16806019]

>>16804951
Germaphobes, especially when obsessing about completely normal things, are women or faggots

[Anonymous No.16806020]

i've never gotten sick from putting warm food in the fridge and eating it later.

[Anonymous No.16806028]

>>16806020
Shockingly, the fridge did exactly what it was designed to do, rather than killing you. You are truly lucky.

[Anonymous No.16806050]

>>16805861
Lol what the fuck kind of retarded parents do you have?
I’ve literally never heard anyone of any age say that.

[Anonymous No.16806062]

>>16806014
>>16806016
based nerds

[Anonymous No.16806101]

>>16806014
it depends on many factors, like I already hinted.
if the pot is big and filled to the brim with a very hot sloppa, and the fridge is not that big, then it's competely possible that it starts to warm the inside of the fridge (especially the foods close to it) for a while.
I think it's still better to wait a bit or do the running water trick to be safe and to save energy.

[Anonymous No.16806120]

>>16806050
It's a very real thing among boomers. It's the same people who freak out about the idea of letting meat sit out before you cook it or eating pork/chicken that's not assblasted into charcoal because muh food poisoning. Blame the USDA.

[Anonymous No.16806136]

>>16806101
And the OP literally said in his post that it was just warm not hot and had been off the heat for over an hour.

[Anonymous No.16806138]

>>16806120
To be fair, I understand why the USDA exists. You don't notice it as much on /ck/ because the board has general knowledge about food safety but that doesn't mean that other people don't. I mean shit have you seen other boards cook? I had roommates in college that had zero understanding of properly cooked animal products.

[Anonymous No.16806139]

>>16806020
I have.

[Anonymous No.16806143]

>>16806139
You got sick from eating too much raw cock don't lie

[Anonymous No.16806158]

>>16806138
The idea of putting out information and guidelines on what is or isn't dangerous is fine, problem is the USDA doesn't really do that, or at least it didn't used to. They put out very specific information saying "this good everything else bad and will kill you" with no regard for nuance or situational factors, leading to braindead retards like in this thread who think putting warm thing next to cold thing will make mustard gas.

[Anonymous No.16806266]

humor me for a bit anons but isnt the reason that this belief (superstition maybe?) exists is because bacteria develops or grows in a fridge? but wouldn't that mean you DIDNT cook your food correctly in the first place

[Anonymous No.16806288]

>>16806120
>It's a very real thing among boomers
You must know some weirdly retarded boomers.
Because no, I have never once heard “refrigerating hot food makes it spoil”.

If anything, I hear the opposite, because they seem to think everything needs to either be hot/cold. You can’t let either reach ambient temperature.
So leftovers go straight to the fridge after the meal. Can’t let that hot whatever spoil at room temperature.

[Anonymous No.16806342]

>>16806288
It's a fairly common myth. I think there was an episode of kitchen nightmares when gordon yells at someone for putting hot soup or some crap in the fridge because it will spoil. And he tries to explain the science behind it. It's pretty cringy.

[Anonymous No.16806367]

>>16806266
No, there is always trace bacteria remaining which will exponentially grow to a dangerous level given the right environment. If you totally sterilized your food with heat it would be inedible.

[Anonymous No.16806391]

I hate retards who think this. Things cool faster in cooler environments, aka, the fridge

[Anonymous No.16806398]

>>16806158
>with no regard for nuance or situational factors
That’s precisely how government regulation *must* be written now. Especially in such a sue-happy country, where expecting anyone to have personal responsibility is a hate-crime.

Sadly, they really have no choice because it needs to be unambiguously black/white. So we end up with
>Any meat that isn’t well-done carries risk of foodborne illness.
Of course almost everyone knows that’s generally untrue, and that meat which has been properly handled is pretty much safe to consume however, assuming the animal itself wasn’t diseased.
But the USDA can’t add that “ambiguous” nuance to the safety guidelines. Because what’s “properly handled”? They’d have to spend another 10 pages defining every last detail of proper handling.
And even with that, with such a huge population, someone would still occasionally get sick and sue, because either the regulation was bad or the restaurant didn’t follow it.
Given the reality in which we live, it just makes more sense for the “official” guideline to simply be “If X is cooked to anything below Y temp, you are taking a risk by eating it”.

[Anonymous No.16806428]

You can keep butter at room temperature by immersing it in water.

[Anonymous No.16806454]

>>16804373
what grade are you in anon?

[Anonymous No.16806500]

>>16804373
it cost her pennies in electricity.

[Anonymous No.16806544]

>>16806367
>always trace bacteria remaining which will exponentially grow to a dangerous level given the right environment.
sooo.. isn't this more reason to let things cool off / let it get to ambient temperature than putting it in the fridge then? i mean if that's the case then people saying "its okay to put hot food in the fridge" are wrong

[Anonymous No.16806547]

>>16806398
The real issue is that there's no distinction made between "these are the rules businesses must follow to avoid liability" and "here's what we recommend and why for home cooks, here's what could possibly affect the outcome one way or another" which is why dumbasses think they have to follow strict restaurant style food handling rules or they'll instantly die from salmonella

[Anonymous No.16806572]

>>16806544
How in the actual fuck is that your takeaway? The concept of the bacterial danger zone is the temperature where bacteria will multiply most rapidly that's above fridge temperature but below the temperature that must food is cooked to. So if you're actually worried about bacteria you would want to cool the food below the danger zone as quickly as possible, meaning going straight into the refrigerator would be much better than leaving it out to slowly cool and sit in the temperature range you specifically want to avoid.

In reality it takes way longer sitting out to be any real issue than most people think, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with going straight into the fridge either unless you've got a positively massive container that's still piping hot you want to stick in there.

[Anonymous No.16806660]

>>16806572
Not the guy you replied to but I think the main problem is that people often leave things to cool in the fridge with the lid on, while on the counter/stove they leave it off. If you leave the lid on the pocket of air acts as an insulator, allowing the center of a large pot to reach the danger zone and stay there for a longer time than it would have if you had left it out with the lid off. Of course you could just put it in the fridge without a lid but that's just weird

[Anonymous No.16806746]

>>16806547
>there's no distinction made between "these are the rules businesses must follow to avoid liability" and "here's what we recommend and why for home cooks
Making a distinction would just cause confusion.
>Why is it safe for me to do this at home but not safe for a restaurant to do it?
>Why is it okay for an amateur home cook to use “common sense”, but I, as a professional chef, can’t?

The way I see it, the kinds of idiots who get OCD about those safety “rules” at home wouldn’t change how they do things even if “X is unsafe” was changed to “X isn’t necessarily unsafe, provided you also follow Y and Z when cooking X”.
They’d still err on the side of following the strict “how to make X safe” rule.
Even the dumbest of culinary dumbasses know they aren’t guaranteed to get sick if they break those “rules”, because they see other people do it all the time without getting sick.
They’re scared of the *possibility* of it happening. It “could” happen. Even if it’s not common, they know it “does” happen because they’ve seen it on the 6:00 news.
So even if you show them how to minimize the risk, they’re still probably gonna go with what they perceive as the zero-risk way of doing it.
Can’t fix stupid, etc. no point in wasting tax money on trying.

[Anonymous No.16806776]

occasional food poisoning is good for you, causes hormesis.

[Anonymous No.16806789]

>>16805646
My fridge has two settings: cold or unplugged.
This is because I'm not a fag.

[Anonymous No.16806844]

>>16805982
>2021
>putting soup in the fridge
I shiggy diggy

[Anonymous No.16806853]

>>16804373
it increases the humidity in the fridge and causes mold, a big pot can stay warm for hours

[Anonymous No.16806854]

>>16805663
>Interstellar docking

[Anonymous No.16806868]

>>16804373
Yes retard you have to wait until it’s room temp otherwise it will spoil. A full pot won’t cool to room temp in just an hour.

[Anonymous No.16806879]

>>16806868
>you have to wait until it’s room temp otherwise it will spoil
Explain.

[Anonymous No.16806903]

>>16805729
>moes eat whale up there
nice blog post pseud

[Anonymous No.16808587]

>>16804373
Tell her that she's a retard. Leaving it outside for more than 2 hours is a great way to make bacteria grow.

[Anonymous No.16808592]

>>16804389
Absolute moron. See >>16804401

[Anonymous No.16808595]

>>16804760
>>16804812
>it will take as much as 2 days for the fridge to bring that pot down to temp
What kind of shitty fridge do you have?
>°f
Oh I see. That's why.

[Anonymous No.16808601]

>>16805038
It does, but not the toxins released by the bacteria.

[Anonymous No.16808689]

>>16804429
The CDC is also currently faking a pandemic.

[Anonymous No.16808693]

>>16808689
Uh huh. Just proceed to walk off that cliff while everybody warns you it's in your path, buddy.

[Anonymous No.16808704]

Can't tell if trolling or people are this actually this fucking retarded. Don't put hot or warm food in your fridge. And this is supposed to be a board where people know their way around the kitchen.

[Anonymous No.16808716]

>>16808704
At this point neither do I. Lots of anons itt saying that's okay to do it and others saying it's not.

[Anonymous No.16808736]

>>16804919
Do you really think heat from the pot just magically disappears once you put it in the fridge?

[Anonymous No.16808747]

>>16808693
Good little faggot goyim. Do everything the media, government, and unelected officials tell you to. Also, make sure to tell everyone who doesn't that they're actually the ones brainwashed. Make sure to shove things up your ass too, Bill Nye says it's good for you.

[Anonymous No.16808890]

>>16806868
>food cools down faster in room temp than in a cold fridge

[Anonymous No.16808898]

>>16808704
What exactly do you think will happen?

[Anonymous No.16808900]

>>16808704
>And this is supposed to be a board where people know their way around the kitchen.
why would a fast food and tobacco board know how to store food?

[Anonymous No.16808903]

>>16808747
Stop leeching off civilization if you don't want to participate. The internet wasn't built by people like you. Go find a wilderness to escape to.

[Anonymous No.16808916]

>>16808736
>Do you really think heat from the pot just magically disappears once you put it in the fridge?
that is literally the purpose of a fridge.
You select a temperature and if the fridge temp exceeds that, it cools down.
its not the 19th century, a fridge is not a passive icebox.

[Anonymous No.16808917]

>>16808903
Imagine defending government enforced medical procedures. That's totally not a slippery slope we're gonna regret later. Little good goy and his love of authority. Make sure to get your donut for your next mandatory booster shot.

[Anonymous No.16808920]

>>16808917
go live in the forest where youll be happy

[Anonymous No.16808928]

>>16808704
You know there are magical machines that make thing hot?
there are also magical machines that make thing cold.

[Anonymous No.16808935]

>>16804373
I do this all the time 5minutes after cooking my food, your mother is just a bitchie cunt.

[Anonymous No.16808945]

>>16804812
I just but my metal water bottle in the freezer and the water is cool within 15minutes. Jeez

[Anonymous No.16808956]

why is this thread so many replies
just run tapwater over/around the container until it's about room temperature before you put it in the fridge, it will cool it down much faster than fridge air

[Anonymous No.16808963]

>>16808956
Sure thing bud, and now its all wet on the outside, extra work.

[Anonymous No.16808986]

>>16808956
the discussion is about leaving food out in room temp vs putting it in the fridge.
Extra cooling with water doesnt enter into it.

[Anonymous No.16809021]

>having a fridge so empty that there's no thermal mass to mitigate a litre of hot soup going in the fridge
>having a fridge old enough that it can't extract the heat from some soup before it becomes dangerous

This is the most retarded fucking thread I've seen in a long time.

[Anonymous No.16809031]

>>16808963
Do you not own a towel?

[Anonymous No.16809065]

>>16809031
I do, I also avoid doing extra work because im not a housewife. Any men who cooks like a 40yr old woman reeks of reddit to me.

[Anonymous No.16809274]

>>16805729
The latent heat capacity of water is far higher than air, so your volume/temp calculation is meaningless.

[Anonymous No.16809649]

>>16804434
Fuck off tourist

[ieatinmycar No.16809673]

>>16809065
You genuinely sound like an incel lol.

[Anonymous No.16809846]

>>16805729
You are a fucking retard
Refrigerators and freezers are mainly cool because they're well thermically isolated not because they can pull jest from the inside quicker than it gets in
Actually heat pumping capacity is quite low it's just that it pumps almost constantly and is isolated
If you put a pot od warm soup inside (that is made mostly out of water and has huge heat capacity) you can easily overhelm refrigerators heat pumping capacity and cause all food inside to warm up
Severity depends on food that's alredy inside since air has very, very low heat capasity
The more dense food inside the fridge the less impact will placing something warm inside have

[Anonymous No.16809889]

>>16809846
buy a modern fridge

[Anonymous No.16809949]

>>16804389
not unless he eats it afterwards

[Anonymous No.16809950]

Personally, I like refrigerators.

[Anonymous No.16809965]

>>16809950
I have a home blast chiller. Stop being so poor.

[Anonymous No.16811316]

>>16808916
>yes, i do believe fridges run on magic

[Anonymous No.16811745]

The only thing this thread as has taught me is that
1) no one actually knows anything about thermodynamics
2) no one actually knows if putting hot food in cold fridge can give you food poisoning

[Anonymous No.16811749]

The only thing this thread has taught me is that
>1) no one actually knows anything about thermodynamics
>2) no one actually knows if putting hot food in cold fridge can give you food poisoning

[Anonymous No.16812009]

>>16804388
CHEESED to meet you

[Anonymous No.16812929]

>>16811749
it is factual that it will cost you more in electricity if you put hot food in the fridge though.

[Anonymous No.16812937]

>>16812929
Yeah that .2 of a cent might break the bank

[Anonymous No.16812938]

>>16812937
I didn't say it was a significant amount

[Anonymous No.16812944]

this is honestly one of the most retarded threads i've ever read on this website. congrats everyone

[Anonymous No.16812956]

>>16812944
Thanks budy

[Anonymous No.16813060]

>>16812944
And here you are reading it. Retard.

[Anonymous No.16813891]

>>16804471
Nigga are you fucking retarded. Refrigerators also build up frost

[Anonymous No.16813922]

>>16804951
You fucking retard do you think they put butter in the fridge in the fucking Bible? Unless you live in fucking Bolivia or Australian outback nothing will happen

[Anonymous No.16814746]

>>16811749
>no one actually knows if putting hot food in cold fridge can give you food poisoning
Does it?

[Anonymous No.16814751]

>>16812944
Takes one to know one.

[Anonymous No.16814763]

the only reason you would leave it out first is if for some reason you don't want the things inside the fridge already to warm up

[Anonymous No.16814774]

>>16804373
Unless your mom works in a restaurant no.
Reading that I cringe because I would put it in the freezer to get it out of the TDZ for like an hour first and then refridgerate it, so that you don't get sick.

[Anonymous No.16815356]

>>16804878
>>16813891
picrel

[Anonymous No.16815417]

>>16814746
Supposedly yes, it can according to some anons. However there’s missing information given itt as to how though

[Anonymous No.16815853]

>>16804373
Yes. By putting the still warm pot into the fridge, you increased the temperature of all the food in that fridge to a potentially dangerous degree.

[Anonymous No.16816939]

>>16804432
>>16804471
>>16815356
I'm bumping your thread just to say this
what a fucking faggot you are

[Anonymous No.16817014]

>>16804373
this thread has taught me that europoids are retarded

JK

I already knew that

[Anonymous No.16817062]

>>16804766
I live in Florida so my cold tap water is like 86 degrees. I don't wanna die from food covid. What do?

[Anonymous No.16817067]

>>16804776
Get a blast chiller faggot

[Anonymous No.16817077]

>>16817067
na dude, new fridges are blast chillers!
Read the thread.

[Anonymous No.16817093]

>>16804919
Based Trump supporter

[Anonymous No.16817141]

>>16804835
You've also probably never tested it the way the other anon did fag