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>sommelier
how do these fraud artists get away with it?

>> No.16650733

>>16650726
Alcohol causes gullibility. It's also like a lot of sales where the person wants to be sold something so it happens. I have friends who brew beer and they bring it to parties and you know I'll have like a little few sips and everytime it tastes almost the same I mean summer sweet or summer sour but they all have that basic alcohol and yeast taste which is what beer is. I don't taste cherries or chocolate or anything else I taste yeast and alcohol

>> No.16650736

>>16650733
You have to use your imagination

>> No.16650745

>>16650726
Rich retards trying to impress people like vain high school girls.

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What is it about wine compared to other alcoholic beverages that makes hillbillies and poors seethe?

>> No.16651273

>>16651269
not sure but my guess is that rich people acting snobbish about alcohol "from abroad" and trying to flex on people embodies peak capitalist degeneration.

>> No.16651277

Male wine drinker here. It’s funny buying a good Bordeaux. I usually get asked who I’m buying it for, Wife? Mother? Sister? Surely it can’t be for yourself. Then when I tell it’s for me, I get a shocked look. They recover and decide to ‘play along’ with me. Then they start telling me lots of things I know I about wine.
It’s at this point, if I can be bothered, I go through their shelves and tell them all the ones I’ve tasted and why I like them or not. Which regions I prefer, big up Marlborough, and why I’m not a fan of Californian and 100% prefer Spanish.
Now is when I think they feel bad. Because they always offer me loads of samples. I can usually free taste like 4/5 different ones min on every visit.
Having said that met a really nice man last time through the airport who was giving out Schlumberger samples. We had a great chat. He was awesome.
Now girls at bars when you order a large white find you immediately intriguing. They watch you take a sip. I think they are waiting to see if you make a face. When you look pleased then they have their in to strike up a conversation.
I don’t know a lot of other male wine drinkers but I wish I did. I can only go on so many tasting sessions with girls.

>> No.16651279 [DELETED] 

>>16651273
>"from abroad"
But the most pretentious wine drinkers are the ones who jerk off over their napa swill and act like it's the only place that has mattered since 1976, and craft beer people are 1000 more gatekeepy and annoying than wine people.

>> No.16651288

>>16651279
meh, worst are rich americans and canadians who want to buy "authenticity" in form of alcohol from europe or obscure countries.

>> No.16651293 [DELETED] 

>>16651288
You mean chinese people?

>> No.16651295

>>16651269
hillbillies make their own wine what are you talking about

>> No.16651499

>>16651288
nah most of us are happy buying whatever shit we make in Niagara
t. Ontariofag

>> No.16651534

>>16651499
I practically refuse to drink Ontario wine. It's pretty much universally crap, and I don't even care about wine.

>> No.16651634

>>16650726
>fraud artists
How so?

>> No.16651647

>>16650726
Have you seen some of the threads that get made here? People don't know what they're doing, ever. They refuse to give themselves any kind of knowledge and will ask the stupidest questions possible. You can tell them anything and they'll believe it as long as you say it confidently, like sommeliers do.

>> No.16651653

>>16650726
Something tells me you’ll never know.

>> No.16651719

>>16651273
if there's a product that is perfect for importing is alcohol desu

>> No.16651795

>>16651277
What a weird fantasy you have. Everyone drinks wine. Last week my brother turned 30 and we were crushing a red down a beer bong. Shit even my redneck working class uncles drink wine all the time. You're weird and creepy, not intriguing.

>> No.16651810

>>16651795
You have never even shaken hands with a working person, I can tell from here.

>> No.16651858

>>16651795
Newfag detected

>> No.16651859

>>16651810
I'm an auto mechanic lol. Why would you think only rich people drink wine? Who do you think is buying barefoot and box wines? Are you really that retarded?

>> No.16651867

>>16651859
>Who do you think is buying barefoot and box wines?

literal poor fags and alcohol soccer moms

>> No.16652029

>>16651867

Actual poorfag here, I make prison tier wine with store bought fruit juice. You think I'm paying cash money for one of those fancy faggot ass box wines? I make a whole gallon of wine for about 2 USD, and take that shit onto the Indian reservation where I can get a fat squaw drunk enough to fucking blow me.

>> No.16652043

>>16650726
I drink Boone’s Farm exclusively

>> No.16652047

>>16652029
Hot

>> No.16652086

I drink pretty much only local wines (Croatia) unless I'm visiting some other country, then I try theirs.

>> No.16652108

>>16652029
Do injun women shave bush?

>> No.16652120

>>16652029
Doing God’s work, anon.

>> No.16652124

>>16651277
Is this a pasta?

>> No.16652126

>>16652124
it's a variation on a reddit post someone started spamming here:
"Female Whisky drinker here. It’s funny buying a good single malt. I usually get asked who I’m buying it for, husband? Father? Brother? Surely it can’t be for yourself. Then when I tell it’s for me, I get a shocked look. They recover and decide to ‘play along’ with me. Then they start telling me lots of things I know I about Whisky.

It’s at this point, if I can be bothered, I go through their shelves and tell them all the ones I’ve tasted and why I like them or not. Which regions I prefer, big up Islay, and why I’m not a fan of Irish and 100% prefer Scottish.

Now is when I think they feel bad. Because they always offer me loads of samples. I can usually free taste like 4/5 different ones min on every visit.

Having said that met a really nice woman last time through the airport who was giving out Talisker samples. We had a great chat. She was awesome.

Now guys at bars when you order a single malt find you immediately intriguing. They watch you take a sip. I think they are waiting to see if you make a face. When you look pleased then they have their in to strike up a conversation.

I don’t know a lot of other female whisky drinkers but I wish I did. I can only go on so many old fashioned hunts with boys."

>> No.16652173

>>16652126
christ what an annoying bitch she is.

>> No.16652416

>>16652047
It really isn't.

>> No.16652473

>>16650726
sommeliers are next to the used car salesmen, absolute frauds.

>> No.16652488

>>16652416
Do they shave?

>> No.16652491

>>16650726
How are they frauds? They serve you wine at a restaurant. Do you consider waiters frauds too?

>> No.16652501

>>16650733
Heh, everyone knows one of these guys and we all have to lie through our teeth to them that it's amazing.

>> No.16652685

>>16652488
No, they scalp.

>> No.16652701

>>16651277
Lmfao take your meds

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>>16651277
>Male wine drinker here. It’s funny buying a good Bordeaux. I usually get asked who I’m buying it for, Wife? Mother? Sister? Surely it can’t be for yourself. Then when I tell it’s for me, I get a shocked look. They recover and decide to ‘play along’ with me. Then they start telling me lots of things I know I about wine.
>It’s at this point, if I can be bothered, I go through their shelves and tell them all the ones I’ve tasted and why I like them or not. Which regions I prefer, big up Marlborough, and why I’m not a fan of Californian and 100% prefer Spanish.
>Now is when I think they feel bad. Because they always offer me loads of samples. I can usually free taste like 4/5 different ones min on every visit.
>Having said that met a really nice man last time through the airport who was giving out Schlumberger samples. We had a great chat. He was awesome.
>Now girls at bars when you order a large white find you immediately intriguing. They watch you take a sip. I think they are waiting to see if you make a face. When you look pleased then they have their in to strike up a conversation.
>I don’t know a lot of other male wine drinkers but I wish I did. I can only go on so many tasting sessions with girls.

>> No.16652748

>>16652491
Waiters bring your food from the kitchen, but those lying bags of shit are making up stories about wines trying to sell you the most expensive one.

>> No.16652760

>>16652491
yes, i can get my own fucking food and tell the chef what i want myself, its madness. give me a single good reason why we should have waiters.

>> No.16652922

When those fuckers somalies come to my table and start faggoting about helping me to chose a wine that will pair with my food,
I just interrupt them and tell them to bring me the cheapest wine they have in the restaurant.
The look on their faces is priceless.
They just walk away defeated and made feel useless.
All this food pairing is a 90% bullshit science.

>> No.16653059

sommelier here
90% of the job is starting a positive, open-ended conversation and recommending something similar to what people like

if you can complement the dish they ordered, that's a bonus, but most wine pairs well with most food
it's not snake oil, just directing people towards the right wine since most people don't know what the fuck Madiran or Crozes-Hermitage means

>> No.16653130

>>16653059
>since most people don't know what the fuck Madiran or Crozes-Hermitage means
Who gives a shit about those fancy names.

>>16653059
>but most wine pairs well with most food
There you go, you said it yourself.

Somalies are rip off artists, same like used car salesman.
Yet you supposed to tip those fuckers. That's why they are trying to sell you the most expensive wine, so the tip will be bigger.
>>16652473
>>16652922

>> No.16653143

>>16653130
>Who gives a shit about those fancy names.
the people who want to order a big, juicy red to go with their steak but don't know regional wine styles

It's literally just a more informed waiter. Every place I've worked splits tips anyway.

>That's why they are trying to sell you the most expensive wine
You sound unhinged and clearly have some irrational hatred of people recommending you wine. The overwhelming majority of people aren't buying $2,000 Chateau D'yquem, they want a decent $40-50 bottle to split over a meal. You know you can specify your price point, right?

>> No.16653287

>>16653143
Wait all you guys do is recommend stuff to go with food? Can’t you just Google that?

>> No.16653427

>>16650726
OP images that are the same size as thumbnails should be automatic bans plus a death warrant out on the poster.

>> No.16653461

>>16653427
>OP images that are the same size as thumbnails should be automatic bans plus a death warrant out on the poster.
No need to see those somalis charlatans in larger images.
OP did very OK by not posting bigger image.

>> No.16653526

>>16652721
Hello plebbit, lurk moar

>> No.16653729

>>16652029
This is the way.

>> No.16653741

>>16653143
The reason it's con Artistry is that let's for the sake of argument say you could have the exact same beverage taste even the alcohol burn but without the inebriation Factor. There's absolutely no way these beverages would be possible. When people want something that tastes good they have fruit juice or Coca-Cola or whatever. No one drinks alcohol because it tastes good they drink alcohol because it's a drug that has a predictable effect. It's the same for coffee. Now Frappuccino or something tastes pretty good but black coffee doesn't taste good but it gets you off that's why people drink it. And they've done all sorts of blind taste tests there's very little capacity to tell one wine for another I mean if you were trained discriminate sure you could but then it would just be a matter of you having been trained to like one more than another.

>> No.16653777

>>16652029
So this is how poor people reproduce? Absolutely filthy.

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>>16653741
Your thought process is obvious brainletry and the cope of the talentless runs so deep in you that it's almost physically repugnant.

>> No.16653835

>>16650745
How about next time you skip the pleasantries, tastelet poorfag, and just post "I retain my self-esteem by pretending everything I don't understand is fake"

>> No.16653851

>>16653741
>something that tastes good [...] Coca-Cola or whatever
>black coffee doesn't taste good
>there's very little capacity to tell one wine for another
This is either masterwork bait or it's the lowest-IQ post I've read on this site in weeks.

>> No.16653854

>>16653741
Based
>>16653826
Tastlet.

>> No.16653859

>>16653854
Haha, the Popov's aficionado thinks he's people

>> No.16653871

>>16653859
Not sure why you seem to think I'm a poor alcoholic that enjoys drinking gasoline, projection perhaps?

>> No.16653996

>When those fuckers somalies come to my table and start faggoting about helping me to chose a wine that will pair with my food
I personally don't like it when they come up in a motorboat and hijack my cargo ship.

>> No.16654040

>>16653826
Well that's possible I mean my IQ is only a hundred and forty-five when they tested it in school so I might not be as smart as you. Human beings are State Association machines in Sunset so for example a lot of kids will idolize their father and dad drinks beer so they asked for a sip of beer and then they get it and they go oh wow I get to do what Dad does all right this is cool. I could bet that influences the tastes appreciation in some way but not that influences what the actual taste is if you follow sort of like how everybody sees the Mona Lisa and some people think it's just a great work of art and some people think now your average commercial artist could do one of those. I remember having Dad offer me sip some alcohol the one that sticks out in my mind is Irish cream. And I remember having it and it burned my mouth cuz alcohol burns and then I said dad why do people drink this it tastes disgusting. And now he said people drink it because it contains a drug called ethanol. We had the same discussion about coffee. Now of course taste is not completely objective but I don't think there are people to whom black coffee tastes sweet for example. So if you've grown up associating alcohol with a certain pleasant experience that of being more like dear old dad you might have a different attitude toward alcohol. You also might like the inebriation I've never liked being drunk.

>> No.16654052

Where the new /alck/? i'm lost and I feel like alcoholics shpould have a place 0on a 4chan

>> No.16654054

>>16653851
The whole way our language is structured bitter is bad and sweet is good. No that doesn't mean it's a black or white thing but you know when the US Army goes into a country and they want to endear themselves to the local children do they hand out cups of black coffee or do they hand out bubble gum and chocolate bars? You think there's not a reason for that or do you think it's because people buying large like sweet things and now they're certainly a neural pharmacology associated with sugar and dopamine and so forth but it's all so that sweet things taste good. Bitter things we tend to consume because they have either some benefit that we've been trained to think of like eat your vegetables are good for you or because they get us drunk or high like coffee. That's my view you're free to disagree just in case you needed permission

>> No.16654169

>>16654040
>>16654054
Bitterfags eternally btfo. Thanks for putting in the effort I could not high IQ anon.

>> No.16654171

>>16654040
>>16654054
It's good that you're confident enough in yourself to think your brainlet schizo-ramblings will be read by others.

>> No.16654181

>>16653871
>The only reason someone would insult me is because uh they are the insult actually
Cool, cool. How about you go to your dentist's office and X-ray your balls until you're absolutely sure you will never be able to reproduce

>> No.16654186

>>16652721
I was envisioning a metrosexual gen Xer- like one of the ones with the short sleeve button up, vest, straw trilby combos? They get those zoomer gfs their daughter's age, and then the gf and the daughter fight all the time?

>> No.16654212

>>16654181
>How about you go to your dentist's office and X-ray your balls until you're absolutely sure you will never be able to reproduce
Lmao you're just a jealous cocksucker who knows they'll never reproduce, explains all the anger kek

>> No.16654229

>>16654212
Enjoy this thread, it's my gift, just for you.

>> No.16654292

>>16654054
>t. 105 IQ pseud

>> No.16654330

>>16654040
>>16654054
TL:DR WALL OF FUCKING TEXT
Learn to compose your posts properly, raging faggot.

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>>16650726
>buy $12 bottle of wine with a chic label
>tell guests that it was a gift from a childhood friend in Tuscany that owns a winery and that it's a 22 year old vintage and is very rare and hard to get
>oh wow, this is the best wine I've ever had
>on the way out tell each and every one that you were fucking with them and that it was a $12 bottle of wine.
It's too good, works every time.

>> No.16654589

>>16654536
>lie to people who trust you
>they believe you
>laugh at them
>namefag
Kill yourself in front of what little family you still have.

>> No.16654746

>>16654536
I did same trick several years ago too.
It was a $18 bottle of read and I poured into an empty $45 bottle and everybody (3 other people) were raving about it.
Fact: Most of the expensive wines (in $40 to $50 price range) are not expensive because they are that much better than the wines in $20 price range.
They are expensive because there is a much smaller number of bottles of that particular wine that was produced and the winery can charge more
because they have naive gullible fucks who follow them like a religion.

Small wineries are known for that, larger too, if they have smaller harvest of a particular grape variety.
The difference in wine quality starts to become unrecognizable at certain point, but because of snobbism and dishonest marketing and leaches like somolies in restaurants
who tell fake stories to the unaware customers people think that a $50/bottle wine is automatically better than a $25/bottle of wine.
Lots of bullshitting in the wine business.

>> No.16654799

>>16654746
>that a $50/bottle wine is automatically better than a $25/bottle of wine.
I'm talking here of wines of the same or a very similar age.

Of course wines that are let's say 10 or 20 years old and of a very good vintage year will cost more just because somebody holds the money
they invested in the bottle of vine for that period of time so they need to get their % interest on investment back,
and wines (if stored in proper conditions) will age and should taste better, smoother, etc etc, than a young wine.

>> No.16654810

>>16654746
One of the Department's at my University once hosted some big-name French philosopher whose family owns a winery. They went to Great Lengths to try and pick a really good red wine to give him a dinner and the story is that they poured it for him and he just sniffed it and refused to drink it. Now do we really think that he could tell that it was just plunk by the smell or do we think that he was putting on an act?

>> No.16654811

>>16651277
Kek. I drink 2 large house white wines to start an evening. It's a good primer. I wish it made me look intriguing instead of a pathetic alchy

>> No.16654830

>>16654799
For this to be true you have to enjoy how alcohol taste in the first place. Since I was very young all it tastes like to me is burning it doesn't taste pleasurable. Can I once a year to celebrate my Irish heritage go to a restaurant and Order five double whiskies and then have the waitress refuse me and then flag down a different waitress and get one more? Sure I can do that but it's more a celebration of my Heritage than because I actually like it. Then I stumble around and you know we'll have a good time out in the streets. It doesn't even really inebriating me that much honestly I'd still be smarter than most of the people in this thread with 12 drinks in me. That's just my master race Irish genetics. But if you don't like how alcohol taste a wine that's 10% at 1 year or 10% at 10 years is still going to tastes like whatever you think alcohol tastes like. I would honestly rather have Welch's White Grape Juice than any wine in the world. And that's because I don't think alcohol tastes good.

>> No.16654842

>>16654330
Nigger please

>> No.16654857

>>16654810
I trust that they bought a very good quality wine, exceptional quality of wine, but the French pig being a french snob put on a act, especially being a philosopher.
Philosophers are the most useless members of the society, they contribute fuck all to the society, except confusion and degeneracy.

>> No.16654872

>>16652029
So how is Oklahoma treating you?

>> No.16654875

>>16654830
>For this to be true you have to enjoy how alcohol taste in the first place.
OK, you are simplifying things to the point of being ridicules and primitive.
There is more to taste in good well matured wine (especially reds) than just alcohol.

>> No.16654887

>>16653287
The advantage to having a sommelier on retainer is you can cultivate a range of wine pairings for your food menu. So if you come in and want a braised shortrib, you might want a gigantic syrah blend, or you might want a medium-bodied Bonarda, or you might want a floral Spatsburgunder. Or maybe you just want a crisp white to cut through the richness. Or maybe something sparkling to serve as contrast.

If I have a range of options that I know for a fact all pair well with a dish, then I have a range of things to recommend to a customer that I know for a fact won't produce off flavors when paired. Any restaurant worth its salt is doing this.

>> No.16654890

>>16654810
Kek. How can individuals like that not have the self awareness to realise they are essentially frasier crane without the comedic payoff

>> No.16654895

>>16651277
>something vain and stupid
>incredibly smug
>fantasy of a person who wants to be an interesting normalfag
This post perfectly emulates reddit.

>> No.16654898

>>16651810
Your post is the faggiest thing I've read all month. Who the fuck says "working person" besides queers like you? It's "working man".

>> No.16654932

>>16654536
>>16654746
>successfully manipulate guests who likely know little or nothing about wine by misrepresenting what you’re giving them
>this somehow proves legitimate sommeliers are scam-artists
I’m not sure the former directly establishes the latter.

>> No.16654961

>>16654887
>The advantage to having a sommelier on retainer is you can cultivate a range of wine pairings for your food menu. So if you come in and want a braised shortrib, you might want a gigantic syrah blend, or you might want a medium-bodied Bonarda, or you might want a floral Spatsburgunder. Or maybe you just want a crisp white to cut through the richness. Or maybe something sparkling to serve as contrast.
>If I have a range of options that I know for a fact all pair well with a dish, then I have a range of things to recommend to a customer that I know for a fact won't produce off flavors when paired. Any restaurant worth its salt is doing this.
Just have a fucking list of wines that go with red meat, with chicken, with fish, with vegetables, and so on and on.
I'm sure by now there are established standards and no need to have some delusional faggot walking allover the restaurant harassing customers.
It's not a fucking rocket science.
No need to pretend that this is some sign of sophistication.
In two or four hours you will piss and shit out all that wine and food anyways. .

>> No.16655191

>>16654875
I have tried every alcohol that anyone will put in front of me. Whiskey rum beer wine expensive single malt scotch expensive wine. It all tastes basically the same to me because I find the taste of alcohol overpowering. It's like imagine you had water and then push it in it. And then you try to put all sorts of fantastic ingredients in it and there were people who said oh but you're ignoring the immense floral bouquet of the tannins or whatever it is and your response was yeah it's water with shit in it that's what I'm going to taste because it's got shit in it.

>> No.16655193

>>16654887
What does grape Kool-Aid and Everclear pair well with?

>> No.16655223

>>16654961
It's half pairing wine to food and half pairing customer to wine. Like anon said, there are a few standards, but some complement and some contrast, and some only do so at different regional styles and price points. There are big bossy guys who will only enjoy shiraz and older ladies who do better with chablis. Sometimes a wine really needs decanting first; the sommelier will be able to tell. It's not rocker science, but it is enology.

>> No.16655229

>>16650733
So, to you, a stout tastes the same as a pilsner, tastes the same as an IPA, tastes the same as a fucking shandy? I'd get it if you were saying all beers of a certain type taste the same, e.g. all IPAs taste the same to you, but are you seriously saying that ALL beer tastes the same to you? What's wrong with your taste buds?
I remember getting black out drunk at 7 because I raided my dad's stouts, and thought they were like some kind of chocolate soda, and pounded a six pack while he was at work and my mom was sitting around watching soap operas and eating candy.

>> No.16655241

>>16650726
There was an experiment done where people tried $3 and $60 wine but the prices were switced. Damn near everyone said the “$3” wine was awful but the “$60” wine was complex and oaky and hints of fruit or whatever other bullshit they tell themselves

>> No.16655259

>>16655241
That's why you need the sommelier, bro. They actually know what they're doing.

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>>16651277
>the airport who was giving out Schlumberger samples

the fuck?

>> No.16655342

>>16655229
>What's wrong with your taste buds?
Sounds like he has a life long Covid-19, lol

>> No.16655407

>>16655241
>There was an experiment done where people tried $3
Where do you buy $3 wine?

>> No.16655413

>>16655298
>turn in like 6 apps to these cunts for entry level positions with necessary schooling
>still turn me down
Fuck em desu

>> No.16655420

>>16655407
Trader Joe's. It's not bad either

>> No.16655426

>>16652029
Aren't store bought juices all pasteurized and terrible for booze making?

>> No.16655484

>>16655229
you're talking to literal underageb&/aspergers, incapable of conceiving that others may perceive and prefer flavors differently

they feel the need to lash out at anyone who likes the taste of alcohol and will actively shit up any booze thread until sufficiently ridiculed or ignored

>> No.16655515

>>16655426
Yes they are. Also the wine juices at the U-Brew places are pasteurized too.

>> No.16655523

>>16655229
No I'm not saying they literally taste the same. There's the predominant flavour of alcohol depending on the strength of that very something and then they you're quite right there are other sort of flavours there are and I suppose like one of the things I do like to do with beer I like to do a beer braised short rib and the sort of Chocolate Stout you mention I do like beer braising short ribs in that I think that tastes okay but most of the alcohol Cooks off. But I don't think it tastes like chocolate. It tastes like something but it's not chocolate. If you thought it tasted like chocolate soda that's great I'm not saying there's anything wrong with enjoying things just that I don't think it really tastes like chocolate at least to me.

>> No.16655535

>>16655484
Of course some people taste things differently. And of course some people like the taste of alcohol but why is that. The effect of alcohol is very subtle and it increases suggestibility. It's why most societies that develop alcohol also developed crazy religious stories. I'm not lashing out I just can't taste all of these flavours that people say are there. And I certainly taste a difference it's just a predominant flavours alcohol with something else bitter. It's sort of like broccoli kale cabbage they all taste pretty much the same because they're the same family of plant and they produce very similar compounds in them. And those compounds predominates in the flavour so it like even if I have brussel sprouts with cheese sauce which I don't eat because it's disgusting it still tastes disgusting to me because there's that predominant Brassica flavour. It has nothing to do with being unable to contemplate the people perceive things differently but I don't think it's night and day like I don't think there's any product of fermented grapes that literally tastes like a mouthful of fresh June strawberries.

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>>16650726
>>sommelier
more like smellier

>> No.16655552

>>16651277
Every time I read this is genuinely warms my heart.

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>>16655523
>>16655535
TL:DR
TOO BORING.
GOING ON AND ON AND FUCKING ON LIKE SOME RETARD.

>> No.16655584

>>16655561
This is the coping mechanism that you developed that anyone more intelligent than you were better of all of that has good taste is retarded. It's okay you were the majority and the majority of us who are well-formed human beings who don't like bitter things like alcohol and coffee won't hold it against you for being a degenerate.

>> No.16655594

>>16655584
STOP BEGGING FOR ATTENTION 85IQ RETARD.

>> No.16655664

>>16655594
You're the one begging for attention friend you are riding my jock

>> No.16655678

>>16655664
Nobody here agrees with you, and nobody enjoyed your idiotic boring posts, nobody likes you here, yet you are insisting of being a hemorrhoid. Why?
You are my bitch now.

>> No.16655685

>>16655678 a minority of people agree. Look it's not your fault that you're part of the middle of the curve it's okay you're a good person don't worry about it man it just means you have bad taste enjoy your black coffee and beer

>> No.16655728

>>16655685
Why you are insisting of being a hemorrhoid?

>> No.16655773

>>16650726
>how do they get away with it
its quite a shocking secret: they provide a service that people are willing to pay for

>> No.16655783

>>16655773
It's being forced on people.

>> No.16655786

>>16655783
no it isnt, take your medicine

>> No.16655866

>>16655728
I'm not sure why you need my approval. I have no problem with you having bad taste, I mean, if you are ugly, you should at least be proud of it.

>> No.16656040

>>16653741
Yes I drink wine because it tastes good and I spit it out so I don't drunk.

>> No.16656482

>>16653059
Have you seen the movie Somm and is it reasonably accurate?

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>>16654961
you sound like the kind of lower class scum that gets angry at waitresses for smiling at you

just go to McDonalds if the help being the help makes you uncomfortable

>> No.16656646

>>16654040
>>16654054
my brain shat itself reading this. learn basic grammar

>> No.16656658

>>16654961
This

>> No.16656669

>>16656646
Seek treatment for your dyslexia, I was able to understand it without trouble

>> No.16656679

Just because many people pretend to know about wine, doesn't mean nobody knows about wine

>> No.16656701

>>16656658
>This
Why stop at “this”?
Just serve 4 wines at a restaurant. Don’t even put their names on the menu. Just call it “red meat wine”, “chicken wine”, “fish wine” and “just vegetables wine”.
That will show those wine-faggots.

>> No.16656720

>>16654536
Ill one up you. Trying buying a couple bottles of white wine and putting food coloring into one and asking what people think about each of them

>> No.16656730

>>16654536
Just because your mom said you're the handsomest smartest boy in the whole school doesn't make it true, retard

>> No.16656733

>>16656701
That's a good idea and generally not that uncommon in parts of Europe where wine is traditional part of peasant culture.

>> No.16656775

>>16656730
>hurrr the personal opinion of the only person in the entire world who has known me for literally my entire life and longer and more intimately than anyone is invalidated by anonymous cum gargling retard posting on 4chink

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>>16656775

>> No.16656965

>>16654054
The same logic could be applied to sugar. "Nobody likes the taste of sugar, they just like the quick energy that comes with it".
Also the example you thought of involves soldiers giving sweet things to children, you're only confirming that liking overtly sweet things and disliking bitter things is a childish trait, i.e. you are a manchild.

>> No.16657127

>>16654536
>>16654746
Based. Fuck those fake ass faggots.

>> No.16657568

>>16654961
>quoting the entire post
What did he mean by this?

>> No.16657662

>>16655523
Did you have a stroke? You should go to the hospital if you're having a stroke, not shitpost on 4chan

>> No.16657749

>>16655561
You're genuinely stupid. Hang yourself.

>> No.16657785

>>16652173
Does this version bother you more than the male wine drinker pasta? Why or why not? Genuinely curious.

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>>16653741
>Frappuccino or something tastes pretty good but black coffee doesn't taste good
Anon, I…

>> No.16657798

>>16655420
Trader Joe’s is THE place to go for suspiciously cheap wine that actually tastes ok. Never understood how they do it but it’s true.

>> No.16657815

>>16650726
I think it’s a performance art, unironically. A good sommelier can use presentation to affect the customer’s perception and make the wine taste better, to “bring out the flavor” if you will. It is trickery, in a way, but it’s also a legitimate skill/art that I can easily see being valuable enough to pay for, if you like wine and are rich enough.

>> No.16657822

>>16657798
>Never understood how they do it but it’s true.

First, by having buyers who know their market. And second, by the wonders of modern winemaking tech that can turn mediocre grapes into something sort of palatable

>> No.16657836

>>16657662
>You should go to the hospital
Actually he was just prematurely released from the hospital. The hospital that has bars in the windows, no door knobs, and patients are wearing straight jackets and are undergoing daily electric shock therapies.
His mental capacity is that of a primate.

>> No.16657899

>>16650726
sommelier here. It's easy confirmation bias. Just pretend you know what you're talking about and the customer will force themselves to believe you. I don't think I even pronounce most of the wines right but the people buy the act every time.

>> No.16657907

>>16657798
>>16657822
They can do it because they’re Trader Joe’s. They’re unique among grocery stores in that they have a fiercely loyal customer base who completely trust that if something is on the shelf at TJ’s, it must be of good quality.

If other grocery stores tried to offer a comparable wine at $3-$5, I doubt it would sell much. People would assume it’s cheap because it’s disgustingly shitty, and pick something that costs a bit more.
Ironically if those stores offered the same wine for ~$10, it would sell more because that’s “acceptably cheap” rather than “too cheap”.

But TJ’s perception among customers allows them to get away with it. If TJ’s has $3 wine, then it isn’t “cheap shitty swill for bums”, it’s “quality wine that simply happens to be very inexpensive”.

>> No.16657918

>>16657899
You forgot to mention the part where the customers clap at the end.

>> No.16657927

>>16656482
yes
not really, the highest level master somm is just bragging rights, and is gatekept by money because you have to be able to identify the world-class wines and vintages, which means you have to buy and consume them when practicing

>> No.16657932

>>16657798
When the guy who owned trader joe's divorced his wife, he agreed to give her the profits from alcohol sales
He now sells all alcohol at-cost

>> No.16657934

>>16657907
on the contrary, new budget cult wines pop up frequently at that price range, then they get "discovered", demand goes through the roof, and the brand does what any brand would do: raise prices

in the case of TJ, the low prices are part of the brand identity, they make more money keeping the prices low on this one thing because the customers are also spending $50-100 per trip on boxed microwave chicken curry and shit like that

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>>16652086
Croatia has very good wine and I'm not even a wine person.

Wife and I stopped by here on vacation once

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>>16652029

>> No.16657975

>>16657918
Only ever had one family clap. It's a pretty hoity restaurant so it actually caused a bit of a scene.

>> No.16658005

>>16651277
This is why I come to this site lmao

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16658026

>it's another "americans seething at wine culture" episode
>They actually believe wine is some sort of super gourmet shit and only pretentious richfags know about it like in the movies

>> No.16658112

>>16657795
Imagine thinking frappuccinos taste bad

>> No.16658151

>>16657836
Nah he's definitely smarter than you, even if he's missing major brain functions

>> No.16658177

>>16654040
Based schizoposter

>> No.16658190

>>16654810
God what a faggot lmao

>> No.16658210

>>16654810
very based honestly, fuck gullible universities who fall for "philosopher" imposters and give them a platform to spout their poison. haven't we learned that disinformation is deadly?

>> No.16658221

>>16650726
White
People

>> No.16658231

>>16658112
It unironically, physically is immature. Kids have an undeveloped palate which is why they hate so many common foods and drinks and are crazy for sweets and fatty junk foods. As you grow older you normally try new things and develop your sense of taste. It doesn't mean you have to learn to like everything, but it does mean you have to experiment a bit and not cling to your childhood favorites, and certainly not dismiss things out of hand just because anything that's not 50% sugar and fat scares you.

People who say you can't enjoy dark chocolate are the same underdeveloped chldren who claim you can't like coffee or beer. They're so self-absorbed that they tell themselves that anyone who has a broader palate and can enjoy purer sensations must be lying. In many ways, food is like anything else in life, and it's usually the same people who refuse to grow up in terms of taste in food, who also cling to juvenile tastes in other areas, like video games and superhero movies. Then they go on to zealously defend their lack of initiative, because on some level they're painfully aware that they're mentally still children, unable to enjoy an adult lifestyle, and are deeply insecure about it.

>> No.16658233

>>16654810
>>16658190
>French philosopher
Of course he's an insufferable cunt.

>> No.16658262

>>16658151
>Nah he's definitely smarter than you, even if he's missing major brain functions
Lol, you are so fucking desperate that now you are posting on your behalf after everybody here is shitting in your mouth for posting stupid boring and lame stories.
Your life is so worthless, consider offing yourself since you are so hated.
In real life you must be a super huge bore for those who know you.
I guess you are obese and hating yourself much that's why you are looking fir acceptance on public forums.
Fucking dumb boring shit loser pretending to be smart. kek

>> No.16658276

>>16658231
TL:DR
WALL OF BORING (AS USUALLY) TEXT.
Learn to compose your posts properly, you ugly obese tranny.

>> No.16658286

>>16658231
You cling to bitter foods because you think it makes you more manly. Everything manly in our society has become taboo so one of the few things that are still okay you feel the need to latch onto. It is why there are such strong opinions on this matter and why there are so many threads about it. The men in our society have been exposed to decades of Communist tactics meant to emasculate us.

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>>16651277
Thank you,
I liked this Ted-x talk

>> No.16658331

>>16658262
Please tell me which posts belong to me you actual schizo.

>> No.16658346

>>16658276
You drink frappuccinos like a femoid and you call people trannies. The lack of self-awareness in this subhuman is unbelievable kek.

>> No.16658402

>>16650726
some people are out of things to believe in and only the purest bullshit will do it for them.

>> No.16658417

>>16658402
It's another definition for "art" (the suspension of disbelief). Life is more boring without art.

>> No.16658641

>>16653741
>fruit juice or Coca-Cola or whatever
Holy shit what a baby. Do you also eat dino nuggets for dinner?

>> No.16658683

>>16658641
>Holy shit what a baby. Do you also eat dino nuggets for dinner?
From the quality of his posts I'm sure he eats his own turds.

>> No.16658707

>>16658417
sniffing wine isn't like going to the museum you stupid fuck

>> No.16658721

>>16658683
Lol he really made you buttmad didn't he? I love watching the truth piss people off

>> No.16658748

>another thread full of newfags replying to the bordeaux copypasta and autists who can't fathom people liking wine

yep, it's a wine thread

>> No.16658890

>>16653741
>No one drinks alcohol because it tastes good
>>16654040
Imagine trying to claim you're smarter than other people when you're stupid enough to think people don't drink alcohol because it tastes good.

>> No.16658928

>>16658890
Drink pure ethyl alcohol and tell me it tastes good. I'll wait.

>> No.16659292

>>16657927
It's not just bragging rights, the amount of knowledge and ability to hand that on for free to the rest of the staff is huge, it also bring in crazy good money for the restaurant involved.

Also most of the tested wine on the whole ms program is never more than 50 quid a bottle , and if you are a candidate you are working somewhere that is opening Lafite, mouton, Egon Muller everyday anyway so you are tasting for free.

I agree it's a gatekeeping organisation for neposticstic arrogant assholes that act all high and mighty , but it's not actually that hard time.access.

I work with 3 MS guys and 2 are absolute dicks , 1 is great , the rest of the wine team is solid with great knowledge because of them. It's a nessacery evil

>> No.16659297

>>16658928
how long will you be waiting?

>> No.16659325

This is the most anti-intellectual board on 4chaan even /pol/ isn't as bad.

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>>16654872
i'm in Wisconsin you cunt

>> No.16659334

>>16659297
Until the thread 404's prolly
>>16659325
You've clearly never been to /x

>> No.16659345

>>16659325
intellectualism ruins civilizations

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>>16658026
>it's another "vile european faggot doesn't read the thread" post
>he makes some baseless fag presumption and doesn't realize he's already had his anus fucking devastated 100 posts ago
The only word you used correctly was "pretentious".

>> No.16659365

>>16659325
wrong again, fag

>> No.16659368

>>16659334
Even /x/ is better.

>> No.16659372

>>16659325
>This is the most anti-intellectual board on 4chaan even /pol/ isn't as bad.
All because of this brain dead obese tranny
>>16653741

>> No.16659393

>>16659368
Lol. Lmao. Lel. Top kek. Zozzle roflmao.
No. If /ck is where intelligent thought goes to die, then /x is where it's corpse is dug up, cut open, shat, pissed, and cummed into, then reburied next to that recreation of Noah's Ark.

>> No.16659407

>>16657836
>>16658683
>>16659372
How fucking assmad did he make you? You are literally obsessed with that one anon and it's actually laughably pathetic. He fucking turboroasted you so hard that you cannot think of anything else. And I laugh.

>> No.16659408

>>16658026
>Australian
Damn I didn't realise we were so thirsty for wine, especially considering we drink more beer

>> No.16659415

>>16659408
67% of all wine sold in australia is boxed wine

>> No.16659421

>>16659415
Based, I have some in my fridge right now. I had my stomach pumped at 15 because of boxed wine.

>> No.16659428

>>16653851
I'm confident it's the very low IQ of that poster lol.

>> No.16659477

>ITT my fanci bottle of grass/fruit and piss is better than yours
Unless you're cooking with it, alcohol is degenerate.

>> No.16659499

>>16659477
you are the reason why abortion should be legal and even required.

>> No.16659521

Even Jesus liked wine and turned water into it.
Those who hate wine are demons serving Satan.

>> No.16659640

>>16659521
And those who hate wine servers are less than demons.

>> No.16659649

>>16659407
>>16659428
Still fucking going lmfao just hang yourself you're never gonna recover.

>> No.16659721

>>16655561
agree with the other anons, you can't formulate a quality roast, on the cooking boards of all things. unironically kill yourself, at least then, if you get cremated we can see a sick burn come out of you yet.

>> No.16659731

>>16655678
i agree with him, you can notice subtle flavours and i think that's what he means, but to literally say it is chocolate flavoured triggers autism in americans, they expect chocolate to be chocolate milk and super sweet. Check out the dark chocolate thread if you'd like more information.

>> No.16659739

>>16655866
you're feeding a very low iq troll, he can't even formulate a sentence of substance and has to rely on ad hominem attacks and caps lock. move on.

>> No.16659745 [DELETED] 

>>16659739
Lol, obese tranny replying to him/herself to but its confidence.
How fucking low life and pathetic.

>> No.16659753

>>16659745
seethe not everyone that disagrees with you is a tranny

>> No.16659756 [DELETED] 

>>16659649
>>16659721
>>16659731
>>16659739
Lol, obese tranny replying to him/herself to but its confidence using new IP.
How fucking low life and pathetic.

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>>16659756
?

>> No.16659779

>>16659649
>>16659721
>>16659731
>>16659739
Lol, obese tranny replying to him/herself to boost its confidence using new IP.
How fucking low life and pathetic, how desperate is your cry to be liked.
But 99% of the posters responded very negatively to all of your dumb lame and very boring posts.
Keep begging for attention.
Maybe if you start posting something of value and intelligent, maybe then others will accept you, but right now you are hated here.

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>>16659779
how many times are you going to delete your post?

>> No.16659863

Wine hater, stop shitting up this thread with your nonsense.

>> No.16660152

>>16656965
No the same logic can't be applied to Sugar. Kids don't like sugar because it gives them energy kids like sugar cuz it tastes good. There are some people who don't like sweets. Disliking bitter things is not childish in the sense that being unable to control one's bowels is childish.

>> No.16660157

>>16657662
I should post using the text-to-speech. It doesn't always come through as well as it does when I talk I mean if you were listening to me my voice is like pure smooth butter

>> No.16660170

>>16657836
It took me a little while to figure out how it worked. They let me out once I admitted the black coffee and beer really taste good and that I just have an immature childish palate because I like sweet things more than bitter things. Before that they were saying I lacked insight into my condition. What they prescribed is that I have for beer and 4 cups of black coffee a day. As long as I stay compliant they say I don't have to go back.

>> No.16660183

>>16658231
>>16658231
Well I don't think they're getting high from like a single piece of dark chocolate but also the reason that chocolate is a thing even though it's bitter is that because it contains theobromine which is a drug. It's actually quite Pleasant I mean I do enjoy dark chocolate if it has sufficient theobromine content otherwise it's just bitter. I certainly enjoy blending cocoa nibs with some heavy cream but also some sugar because I'm not a goddamn the animal. The reason I'm putting those cocoa nibs in isn't because they're bitter it's because they have a drug that I like.

>> No.16660199

>>16658262
He's not me. Your analysis of me other than the obese and hating myself part is one that anybody who has any sort of developed personality will inevitably encounter. It looks like you're saying about an acquired taste which I do think is a good thing to develop in terms of being able to socialize with lots of different types of people. But I don't think it applies to Bitter Foods that's just gross. Unless they have drugs in the bitter drugs are fine you got to get high man you got to like yeah hi. But the issue is that people with mediocre personalities they tend to be jealous of those who have developed personalities are a bore. It's sort of funny to me because you could literally think of me is sort of like this coffee that you think is enjoyable because it's bitter but in fact it has a drug and you actually don't like the quality of the drug so you blame the coffee rather than the drug. It is if that's all very related matters of taste. I wish I were pretending to be smart I mean you can quantify intelligence however you want I remember that Trope very well there was like this guy who was in the special classes in school who had actual learning disabilities and I had to do something with him a few times in one of the early classes in high school as they were integrated partially and I remember him telling me you think you're so smart why are you acting smart all the time. Of course I am also quite kind so I didn't ask him why he was acting so stupid that they put him in the special ed program. It's not about looking for acceptance since I was about eight years old on Internet relay chat I have always enjoyed interacting with other people who in real life I wouldn't interact with. I mean at a party you're the sort who would probably not interact with me at all I'm too intimidating for you to approach me and I probably wouldn't find you worth approaching but if we did interact you probably wouldn't be able to handle it.

>> No.16660224

>>16658641
Tonight I'm going to have some duck livers. They're actually sort of sweet. That's how I know they're good.

>> No.16660229

>>16660199
TL:DR, WALL OF FUCKING TEXT.
DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ ALL THAT SCHIZO SHIT.
FUCK-OFF!!!

>> No.16660239

>>16658890
I've never personally claimed that I am smart I don't really believe in intelligence testing or that academic achievement or money or any of those things really make you intelligent I mean what does it even mean. That's a consistent view of people who are called intelligent by others. My standard reply when someone says to me they find me intelligent is that I asked well does that mean you think you're smarter than me and you're like looking down on me and understanding what I am or is it that you aren't smarter than me but somehow you recognize it I guess that's possible. I just like I don't know how you define intelligence but I don't think it's intelligent to drink alcohol at all the more evidence we have about alcohol we find that it's a carcinogenic neurotoxin and that people drink it because it has a habituating drug effect not because of how it tastes. If people just really enjoyed drinking bitter things that have no pharmacological profile like alcohol then things like kale juice would be very popular. For some reason even though there are much easier things to make that her bitter people choose to drink alcohol. One of the fascinating things that I thought about a lot over the years at least it fascinates me is what if the optimum pattern for survival amongst humans is to be able to deceive yourself as to why you're doing what you're doing.

>> No.16660247

>>16659428
I already told you my IQ is 145. I'm well aware that's not as high as some people and there were lots of people on the internet who are really quite brilliant. But I also know that once you get out past like 1:35 or so it's sort of like you're going to be able to do all the math and chemistry and physics that's not going to be a challenge anymore and then you're going to get into things like ethics and Aesthetics which are very interesting if you're hot for philosophy.

>> No.16660250

>>16659477
This is the way

>> No.16660259

>>16659779
The guy you're replying to isn't me. I would never pretend to be another person although maybe it would be fun to fuck with you but I don't think that way. If I really just wanted to be liked why wouldn't I just say I like beer and bitter things in the I'm like one of you boys who you know we've matured now we like bitter things because well let's face it you have to drink otherwise you're going to be confronted with the horror of reality and isn't it much better to just have a few drinks and forget it all? I mean we could also see if you have good taste by asking if you like LSD. I have never met anyone who I would say had good taste who dislikes LSD. I've met people who like hell last dude who I think are relatively tasteless but that's at least a redeeming quality. So do you like the psychedelic drugs? I mean they're the tastiest things in the world

>> No.16660260

>>16660247
>>16660239
See
>>16660229
I think you're trolling but it would be more effective if you kept it shorter. No one is trolled if they don't read your novel.

>> No.16660272

>>16660229
If you don't have a learning disability it should take you all of a minute and a half to read. If that. Look I've worked extensively with disabled people and you quickly learned that some of them can tolerate being treated like adults and you can talk to them and they often say things like well I don't understand what you just said but at I don't know and they're they're interested in the experience cuz life is all about experiences right man? But then you also learn that there are some developmentally delayed people and the funny thing is I've worked extensively in the world of the church and the ones who are more functional but still obviously crazy cuz they believe in God they actually have less capacity to tolerate their betters because they have being through the stage which is basically an outgrowth of the church given this sort of amusement park in which their catered to which causes them to think they're actually intelligent rather than that they live in a sort of Disneyland fantasy. Anyway there's nothing right or wrong about being what you are you just seem to have this desire to be right when you're obviously not because you think bitter flavour is a good flavour

>> No.16660276

>>16660260
I'm not trolling I'm just trying to have a conversation with you you're either into it or you're not. And you know it's very funny because you're talking about flavours that are not good to the childish palate that require this sort of refinement and development to enjoy. Well maybe I'm that sort of flavour and you just don't like chatting with me because you are chat pallid as it were as not being properly trained you know you you didn't have a sommelier tell you that oh yes this is some of the finest chat in the world. This is really top-shelf chat I'm sorry you're not developed enough to realize that

>> No.16660323

>>16660276
Tl;dr

>> No.16660343

>>16660276
TL:DR

>> No.16660456

>>16659477
I have never heard this sentiment expressed by anyone other than coping American underagers.

>> No.16660548

>>16660456
...or mentally retarded freaks

>> No.16660867

>>16660272
tldr

>> No.16661157

>>16651810
>You have never even shaken hands with a working person, I can tell from here.
I wouldn't risk fucking up my nails by touching the hand of a wagie/slavie. I've read in books they have very rough hands.

>> No.16661162

>>16660199
>>16660239
>>16660259
>>16660272
>>16660276
>>>plebbit

>> No.16661399

I wish I could be a Master of Wine.

>> No.16661418
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16661418

>>16650726
Wouldn't you liek to know
These scam artists fly around the world and give an expert rating to bottled waters at water conventions.

>> No.16661433

It’s amazing how two redditors showing up here and replying to each other can turn a 4chink thread into 200 paragraph long replies of nothing but absolute dogshit

>> No.16661702

>>16661418
Can I be a fart sommelier?

>> No.16661720

>>16650726
These threads are funny af. You uncultured swine.

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>>16661702
Cannot see why not. It'd probably sell really fuck well too.

>> No.16661743

>>16655426
It's not pasteurising that is problematic as you add your own yeast but it's shelf stable juice that has preservatives added that don't work. You need to buy juice out of the refrigerated section that has nothing added except maybe Ascorbic acid.

>> No.16661911

>>16661433
>can turn a 4chink thread into 200 paragraph long replies of nothing but absolute dogshit
Idk I kinda enjoyed reading about your mom

>> No.16662024

ITT :
>people who know nothing about wine but hate people who like wine talk about wine

>> No.16662171

>>16657785
Not him but with the pasta you know it was made for the sake of a shitpost and the reddit version you just know she was being herself. Why would a manufactured pasta bother anyone? Do you get mad at the what the fuck did you just say about me you little bitch I'll have you know that blablabla?

>> No.16662177

>>16650726
wine probably has the highest markup in a restaurant, its a money maker

>> No.16662229

>>16662024
this

>> No.16662450

>>16662024
Of course. Did you expect anything less from fu/ck/ingretards?

>> No.16662464

>>16659345
It would be nice if these conversations took place in a physical room, so I could just start hitting people who say shit like that

>> No.16663694

>>16657815
very postmodern in a way

>> No.16663782

>>16662024
Of course. Did you expect anything less from fu/ck/inglegends?

>> No.16663803

>>16662177
nah, it's beer
typical wine markup is 3x, beer markup is like 6x

>> No.16663905

>>16650726
Its all down to drinking a lot of any spirit. Once you get past that alcohol flavour you can start to appreciate the differences. I've not got to this point for wine since I don't drink a lot of wine, but with whisky you definitely start to notice the differences the more you drink

>> No.16663908

>>16659345
>I'm an NPC dipshit, so everyone else should be too!
Lmao at your sorry stupid ass

>> No.16663920

>>16651277
Quality pasta, pairs well with a nice Bordeaux.

>> No.16663930

>>16651288
I can understand that for Whisky but some of the best wine is from the new world.

>> No.16665390

>>16663920
Bordeaux sucks big time. Massively overrated crap.

>> No.16665396

>>16663930
New world wines are for pleb. They pair well with fast food.

>> No.16665543

>>16665396
Eastern Long Island has the same terroir and climate as Burgandy, get fucked yuro.

>> No.16665563

>>16665543
No!, not the same climate, and not the same soil, fast food connoisseur.
Your knowledge and understanding of things related to wine is is is is pathetic.
Go back to drinking your horse piss wines.

>> No.16665634

>>16662464
Look pal I have over 200 confirmed kills there's no way you'd start hitting me.

>> No.16665644

>>16665634
I hope they are all sommeliers.

>> No.16665717

>>16665634
I'll give you a case of wine if you take him out....
>>16653741

>> No.16665940

>>16665634
Are you that nigga who was boiling hamsters alive or some shit?

>> No.16665944

Or was it they confirmed he was a sick retard but they didn’t get an accurate ount of killed hamsters

>> No.16666059

>>16659421
>>16659415
>>16659408
>5L of shiraz for $15
I mix it with OJ, ginger beer, or water to slow myself down and still finish it in a weekend
I am responsible for a full shade of red on this graph

>> No.16667060

>>16666059
OK

>> No.16667090

>No!, not the same climate, and not the same soil
Lol cry harder while I enjoy my cheap, local French wine.
Btw, the blight never hit us ;)

>> No.16667095

>>16667090
>>16665563