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>eat plants exclusively
>live over 100 years
what's your excuse, faggots?

>> No.16632446

>>16632428
Different digestive tract better suited to absorbing nutrients from animal products.

>> No.16632449

>>16632428
somewhere out there a turtle is suffering and I can do NOTHING to stop it. fuck this gay earth.

>> No.16632454

>>16632428
i'm a human being, not a fucking tortoise

>> No.16632456

>>16632428
Plants don't feel pain!

>> No.16632459

>Turtles are not strictly herbivores. All species are found to eat at least some meat which causes them to have powerful digestive enzymes.

>> No.16632464

>>16632428
I'd rather live for 75-80 tasty years than 120 boring as fuck years. Simple as.

>> No.16632491

>>16632428
These dudes are apparently fucking delicious. When they were discovered, and being shipped back to London to be studied, none of them ever made it because they would eat them all on the way. No one who ever ate giant tortoise had ever tasted anything better.
They’re endangered and protected now, but damn. What I wouldn’t do to try giant tortoise.

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>>16632491
t. watched that one episode of QI

>> No.16632499

>>16632493
https://youtu.be/zPggB4MfPnk
RIP Sean

>> No.16632507
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The vast majority of vegans are sickly in appearance and borderline anemic.

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>>16632499
F

>> No.16632525

>>16632493
imagine seeing someone post something they think is cool because they think other people will enjoy knowing it too, and acting like you're cooler than them because you already knew it too

>> No.16632547

>>16632525
nothing as malicious as that, just from the post i recognized exactly where that nugget of information came from and the guy replied right back with the clip. not everything is bloody minded

>> No.16632830

>>16632507
proof? every vegan I've ever met was either a hot girl or a jacked dude or a skinny guy
plus I've heard vegans get bigger and longer boners

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>>16632428
>>eat plants exclusively
this is tortoise propoganda
they eat meat if they can catch it, just slowbois so it normally doesn't work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NsaR576XqQ

>> No.16632892

>>16632428
i don't want to live that long

>> No.16632907

>>16632507
>>16632830
Veganism doesn't do anything drastic to your body. I've been vegan for a year and a half and I haven't lost or gained any weight or felt any different in terms of activity. The best thing about it is that it's kept me away from fast food and forced me to become a better cook, but that's basically it.

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>>16632428
>Eats whatever the fuck but can't eat grass and hay like a tortoise
>Lives over 100 years

>> No.16632921

>>16632907
I mean you could have just not eaten fast food and cooked your own meals anyways?

Not to mention fast food is now offering more vegan options so now it's harder to run from their shitty food.
I haven't eaten fast food since early 2018 on a road trip and haven't eaten a strangers cooking since 2019. You don't have to cut anything out of your diet to do that.

>> No.16632939

>>16632428
They dont eat plants exclusively. Pretty much no herbivore or carbivore only eat plants/meat.

>> No.16632958

>>16632921
I went vegan because I felt bad for the animals. I'd probably stop if I didn't have easy access to grocery stores though.

>> No.16632961

>>16632428
I'm not a reptile

>> No.16632962

>>16632428
>muh vegetarian
We don't have the digestive system for that shit you dumb faggot. Fuck you.

>> No.16632964

>>16632958
Fuck grocery stores. Hit up small farms and support them before they all become hyper consolidated shitholes.

>> No.16632967

>>16632961
Yes you are, Mark Zuckerberg.

>> No.16632981

>>16632830
lol

>> No.16632989

>>16632428
I'm too FAST!

>> No.16633015

>>16632428
>is at the brink of extinction

>> No.16633023

>>16632428
i don't have a shell and birds keep attacking my back

>> No.16633031

>>16632428
>get severely abused as a kid
>always stressed
>sometimes feel too sick to eat
>teacher at school would sometimes give me crackers at lunch because she noticed something was wrong
>digestive system becomes damaged after always being stressed out for so long
>if i eat anything other than meat now i break out in a rash on half my body
>for some reason i just can't handle digesting any kind of sugar in even the tiniest amount which is in all plant foods
>even have to avoid eggs and butter because the tiny amount of sugar they contain causes the rash to reappear
>wanted to go vegan before
>have bad dreams about animals being improperly slaughtered and they're suffering
i just want lab-grown meat to improve enough to be identical to the real thing and then i'll never eat meat from a slaughtered animal again

>> No.16633062

>>16632428
>longer = better
brainlet opinion

>> No.16633154

>>16633031
Lab grown meat requires fetal bovine serum in order to feed the cell biopsy.
Imagine your entire life being ripped out of your lifeless mother while you are just developed enough to feel pain and have fluids sucked out of you.
Just eat regular meat and source from good farms. Animals from small farms get a good life and their death is instantaneous. Also avoid kosher or halal. They don't stun the animal before slaughter.

>> No.16633157

>>16632499
f

>> No.16633384

>>16633154
>Lab grown meat requires fetal bovine serum in order to feed the cell biopsy.
i was kind of shocked when i first read about that. they avoid talking about it as much as possible but i'm assuming it'll become more commonly known at which point they'll actually have to find and use an alternative that doesn't involve something cruel like that.

i do try to buy meat from better farms though because a lot of the time it doesn't cost too much more and in my opinion it's worth it to just know the animals weren't treated so badly.

>> No.16633519

>>16633031
You deserve every bit of suffering retroactively for this post.

>> No.16633522

>>16633519
you deserve a benis

>> No.16633528

>>16633154
Still much better than killing millions of animals. You are not very fluent with the concept of scale.

>> No.16633598

Tortoises don't tend to have jobs

>> No.16633633

>>16632428
I'm not a tortoise. I'm an ape whose brain literally started growing larger once they evolved to eat meat.

>> No.16633641

>>16633633
being able to cook starchy foods for more calories and collecting honey seemed to play a big part in that too. honey actually has the same amount of calories by weight as 75/25 beef.

>> No.16633647

I am not a tortoise.

>> No.16633651

>>16632428
i can kill and eat it whever i want by eating meat and using tools both traits of my omnivore ancestors.

you're only 100 because it amuses me you fucking faggot vegetable bitch.

>> No.16633693

>>16632428
>what's your excuse
being an omnivorous human being and not a fucking tortoise

>> No.16633695

>>16632491
they can't be that much different from normal turtles, right? and you can still get some turtle dishes

>> No.16633699

>>16632428
Different organisms require different nutrition? WOW.

>> No.16633702

>>16633641
That would explain why meat and starch dishes are almost universal in societies.

>> No.16633705

>>16632428
guess again faggot. they like meat https://youtu.be/5NsaR576XqQ

>> No.16633707

>>16632428
I'm not a turtle.

>> No.16633722

>>16633062
...

>> No.16633757

>>16632464
T. Literal child

>> No.16633765

>>16632525
That wasn't the feeling I got from it at all

>> No.16634504

Reminder that herbivores have much higher life expectancy in the wild

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>>16632981
>>16632507
Vegans live longer in average and have lower cancer and heart disease rates and highest testosterone levels.

>> No.16634540

>>16634536
on average*
higher*

>> No.16634769

I'll live to be 260 faggot just watch me. And i don't mean no kg either. Fucken' YEAZ

>> No.16634865

>>16634536
Vegans are sheltered yuppies that avoid hard labor, smoking and anything else stupidly depletious to your life expectancy. Subsequently all the non-vegans will be statistically grouped with the unhealthy idiots and desperate poors, dragging them down. You could create a group of people that throw extremely expensive dog breeds off bridges and due to their high income levels required to feed their hobby they would look like gods of health when compared to the "average". This is basic malicious statistic manipulation and only retards fall for it.

>> No.16634916

>>16632428
I don't happen to be a tortoise, that is my excuse.

>> No.16634969

>>16633528
Except for the fact that they are only producing tiny amounts of beef at the cost of tons more lives. Like these scientists are only making only a couple ounce patties. Who knows how much serum they needed to use? And it clearly involves more suffering than just living off a whole cow for a few years.

>> No.16634976

>>16633384
You should look into investing in a chest freezer and buying wholesale meat. A whole cow could feed you for a very long time. I'm still working on 1/4 cow I bought a year ago. A grass finished regeneratively grazed cow in my area goes for 9 dollars per lb at wholesale, this includes steaks which usually cost more like 25 per lb grain finished.

>> No.16634993

>>16632830
>>16632907
>people that pay close attention to their diet are healthier than people that dont
It's fucking simple. Comparing vegan to a normal person diet is akin to comparing a strongmans diet to a normal person diet. Stupid

That's why I believe both of you

>> No.16635014

>>16632921
>trusting a fast food restaurant to serve something vegan

Seriously why are people this fucking retarded? I'm not talking about malicious intent I'm talking about how that store is set up mistakes happen when fast is a priority. To think your impossible burger was microwaved or whatever in a different oven from my regular one is dumb enough. But the fact that fast food notoriously gets your order wrong makes this even dumber. I'm not vegan or anything but my ex was vegetarian and when I dropped this truth bomb at least she instantly understood. Later she told me about a guy she tried to bomb with my truth who did it anyway and ended up with a legit regular whopper.

>> No.16635020

>>16632428
Say what you want, but he was an effective Senate Majority Leader during the Late Obama Years, he's an expert politician whose family is lowkey running the GOP's China policy since Bush I

>> No.16635196

>>16633695
I'm sure the muscle composition and all that is pretty different. Turtle and Tortoise is probably akin to Pigeon and Chicken

>> No.16635230

>>16633031
That sucks man, hope you do ok
You shouldn't feel bad about eating meat if it's your only real option.

Try to eat livers, kidneys and bone marrow occasionally to compensate for the nutrition you're missing-out on.
Some historical cultures (Arctic tribes, pastoralists on the asian steppes) had basically carnivorous diets, but they didn't manage that by just eating steak.

>> No.16635242

>>16634993
>this shit again
Even after adjusting for alcohol, smoking, exercise, processed food, BMI and socio-economic status, vegans are still healthier.

>> No.16635284

>>16633031
What was the abuse?

>> No.16635291

>>16635242
>adjusting for
I'm never clear on what the fuck they mean by this, because the studies ALWAYS compare vegans to the average person, so how the fuck do you just "adjust" for factors like eating shit that makes you perpetually inflamed and unhealthy and contributes to several metabolic disorders? You have to compare a whole food meat-eating population to a whole food vegan population, there is no other worthy comparison and no amount of "adjustments" will ever substitute for such a comparison.

>> No.16635325

>>16635242
And yet the vegan athletes always lose to their meat eating counterparts.

>> No.16635326

>>16632428
turtle :)

>> No.16635447

>>16632428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y&ab_channel=CaptJax458

>> No.16635455

>>16633707
this

>> No.16635457

>>16632428
i’m warmblooded

>> No.16635505

>>16632428
I'M NOT A FUCKING TURTLE YOU QUEER

>> No.16635800

>>16632456
they actually do. and you can look into studies on this

>> No.16635806

>>16632428
im not a turtle

>> No.16635848
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i like turtles

>> No.16635895

>>16632499
>>16632510
>>16633157
Fucking hell, I thought you were all just memeing

>> No.16635925

>>16632491
They taste like Jack Links Jerky Squares. I ate one on holiday in the Caribbean, pretty good.

>> No.16636243

>>16634976
i can get local grass-fed ground beef for about $5 per pound which i'm okay with. was never the biggest fan of steak anyway.

>>16635230
i eat liver and marrow occasionally when i crave it. i used to like chopping up the giblets and mixing them together and frying it when i would buy whole chickens, but for some reason they don't come with the giblets anymore.

>> No.16636495

>>16632428
My ribs are inside my body.

>> No.16636958

>>16632428
I don't have a heart rate of 6bpm

>> No.16636966

>>16632428
people nearly ate them to extinction. worked out so well for them, didn't it?

>> No.16636982

>>16634536
beer is vegan

>> No.16637008

>>16634536
>and highest testosterone levels.
Higher total testosterone, but not usable testosterone. Vegans have higher levels of SHBG, which is normally found at higher levels in women and children, and they have to produce more testosterone to compensate. They still end up with slightly lower levels of usable testosterone.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2400756/
>In comparison with the omnivores, the vegans had...23% higher SHBG...3% lower free T

>> No.16637010

>>16637008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormone-binding_globulin
>Testosterone and estradiol circulate in the bloodstream...SHBG inhibits the function of these hormones
>SHBG levels are usually about twice as high in women than in men.

>> No.16637039

My body performs thermogenesis and I need to grow muscle mass and a large brain to defend myself instead of just having no natural predator.

>> No.16637042

>>16633757
t. godless heathen

>> No.16637051

>>16637008
literally just look at any vegan bodybuilder and find this out trivially. vegan athletes are objectively worse than non-vegan counterparts there is literally not one example of a dominant vegan athlete

>> No.16637785

>>16632428
Plant eaters have like four stomachs and I only have 1

>> No.16637874

>>16637785
Not all of them, horses only have one stomach.

>> No.16638075

Why don't you need a gun when you have a shell life every day? Because you can't protect yourself when you're weak as fuck.

>> No.16638434

You realize you're not a turtle, right?

>> No.16638437
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>eat literal shit and detritus off of the sea floor exclusively
>biologically immortal
what's your excuse, faggots?

>> No.16638446

>>16637874
monogastric herbivores have a gigantic functioning cecum and many of them eat their own feces.
Also keep in mind we can't subsist off grass.

>> No.16638930

>>16634969
>at the cost of tons more lives
they take it from already slaughtered cows. which they use the meat from.
thats like saying you shouldnt eat eggs because think of the possible baby chicken

>> No.16638952

>>16638930
They take it from a slaughtered cows still living fetus that has been proven to feel their fluids being sucked out of them. The fetus doesn't die quickly, it slowly suffers before even having been born.

>> No.16638966

>>16638952
so then the problem isnt that they are going to die, its that they can feel pain. while dying. so what we gotta do is make sure they die peacefully. to save their lives.

>> No.16638982

>>16638952
>They take it from a slaughtered cows still living fetus that has been proven to feel their fluids being sucked out of them.
Uhm, what is the process of killing the cow fetus is hecking wholesome and grass fed?!?!

>> No.16639326

>>16638966
How would you rather die? Living to adulthood and dying quickly and painlessly or having your only moments of life horrifically painful having your fluids sucked out of your heart?

>> No.16640453

>>16638437
>biologically immortal
no they're not

>> No.16640699

>>16635020
underrated

>> No.16641829

>>16639326
I'd rather never born in the first place

>> No.16641842

>>16635284
His dad fucking him silly

>> No.16641952

>>16632830
That's usually new vegans. 1-3 years. After like 5-7 years they all become weird schizos who've lost brain matter.

>> No.16642003

>>16632428
turtles are the definition of "out of shape"

>> No.16643206

>>16642003
They can only be the one shape, though. Hard shell and all that.

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>>16632428
80% of my genes are different

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>>16637008
Nope, even in free test, vegans get the edge.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/pdf/83-6691152a.pdf

>> No.16643642

>>16641829
Well that's your personal issue and I recommend talking to a specialist about that

>> No.16643655

>>16632449
The same can be said about humans, or any other species for that matter

>> No.16644991

>>16643655
Not true, white lives dont matter.

>> No.16646144

>>16632830
I'm vegan, I'm 6'1 180lbs and my dick us 9 inches. This isn't a joke.

>> No.16646146

>>16632830
>t. john sakars

>> No.16646177

>>16635800
They cannot feel pain. No brain. Plants can react but it does not involve pain.

>> No.16646181 [DELETED] 

>>16632916
Deboonked.

>> No.16646214

>>16635284
mom got me the wrong color iphone >:(

>> No.16646247

Because I'm not a turtle, especially not the specific subspecies that doesn't eat meat.(seen turtles get fed mice at the zoo beflrw btw). Turtles don't even have an inherent termination date provided nothing kills/eats it a turtle is immortal

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>>16638437
>>16640453
wtf

>> No.16647923

>>16647810
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Fyodorovich_Fyodorov

>> No.16647937

>>16643327
The omnivores in that study were a decade older than the vegans and testosterone naturally declines as you age. The study you linked even said there wasn't a difference and that vegans still had higher SHBG which, again, is normally at higher levels in women and children.

>> No.16647939

>>16640453
They die if they're killed, and they die if they grow so big they're unable to moult and are crushed by their own shells. But they will never die of old age.

>> No.16647942

>>16632428
>Wanting to live that long

>> No.16648088

>>16632428
im not a tortoise you dumb nigger

>> No.16648391

>>16632428
I'm not a tortoise

>> No.16649470

>>16633031
As a father the thought of being cruel in any way to children makes me physically ill. A parent betraying a child’s natural trust and putting them in pain they can’t escape from or understand why they’re receiving is one of the most evil things imaginable. No one should have to go through that. Sorry anon.

>> No.16649491

>>16632499
FUuuuCk.
This was like not even 2 weeks ago, wtf!!?

>On 16 August 2021,[n 1] Lock died of cancer at home aged 58.[1][20] According to Bill Bailey, a close friend of Lock's, the cause of death was lung cancer

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>>16632428
i finally have a reason to post this

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>>16632428
Veg meals have more effort put into them