Wine thread

[Anonymous No.16538869]

Still can't believe how little one of the most food friendly alcoholic beverage is discussed here.

post your favorites and/or what you're drinking tonight.

[Anonymous No.16538888]

>>16538869
i'm drinking a streak of body warm piss straight from your mom's dripping wet gash

[Anonymous No.16539219]

>>16538869
It's because every time they don't get deleted by mods, they get derailed by people constantly claiming all wine tastes the same and anyone who says they can taste any difference is just being pretentious.

Hopefully not this time, though.

>favorites
Vin jaune and North Rhone syrah probably, but there are tons of incredible wines of all kinds.

>drinking tonight
Probably pic related, 100% Friulano from Collio.

[Anonymous No.16539230]

>>16539219
Is redbit that crap that you have to try and infect another website?

[Anonymous No.16539240]

>>16538869
>>16539219
I wanna serve a 2016 châteauneuf du pape to my family for dinner. do I have to decant first? pls advise

[Anonymous No.16539351]

>>16538869
>what you're drinking tonight
Marius from Chapoutier, Pays d'Oc

[Anonymous No.16539429]

>>16539240
Probably so. 5 years is on the young side for most Chateauneuf, a bit of air time will do it good.

[Anonymous No.16539502]

Had Amarone for the first time and it's definitely my new favorite

[Anonymous No.16539594]

How do I know what wine is quality? I usually drink $10-13 bottles that all taste comparable, going to get a bottle around $20-25 soon and want to avoid gimmicks and get an upgrade I can taste

[Anonymous No.16539608]

>>16539240
yes, all Rhone wines should be decanted at least 2 hours

[Anonymous No.16539648]

>>16539594
I notice an uptick in quality around $16-18. Going to grab a pricier one next time because I realized I’ve never tried anything over $20

[Anonymous No.16539684]

>>16539594
what do you like? typically you want to look for AVAs or AOCs which have laws regarding additives and production caps to help maintain quality. Great spanish DOs can be had for 20-25 dollars

[Anonymous No.16539694]

>>16538869
wine is such a meme, they all taste the same

[Anonymous No.16539706]

>>16539694
>white wine and red wine taste the same
>dessert wine and sparkling wine taste the same
retard alert

[Anonymous No.16539718]

>>16539684
I'm not picky as far as styles, but my usuals at that lower end are rioja, cab sauv, and dark blends. Bold and tannic are nice.
How respectable are California wines in the $20 range? Or do imports smack American wines at the same price points?

[Anonymous No.16539724]

>>16539718
If you're looking for a good cheap cab, I would say Paso Robles is your best bet. Napa is way overpriced

[Anonymous No.16539744]

>>16539718
Almost all californian wines are overpriced, even Paso Robles these days is becoming overhyped

There are some great washington wines, especially from the Yakima Valley/Horse Heaven Hills that can be cheap.

Otherwise, yes, most foreign wines in a similar price point will beat the shit out of american wines until you get to the higher end brackets, then it inverts; you pay a hefty premium for old-world luxury wines but can find amazing pinot noir for 70-80 dollars in the US

[Anonymous No.16539758]

>>16539724
>>16539744
Thanks, guys

[Anonymous No.16539991]

Dry, smooth and very rich.

[Anonymous No.16540568]

isnt there a wine thread already going?

[Anonymous No.16540948]

>>16540568
I didn't see one, there's always several whiskey threads, or alcohol general threads but I never see wine mentioned in them

[Anonymous No.16540956]

I do not drink white wine.

[Anonymous No.16540960]

>>16540956
why, it's the best wine

[Anonymous No.16540962]

>>16540956
Chardonnay is the only white wine I like anymore, pinot grigio is okay but always tastes kinda cheap to me; sauvignon blanc tastes like grass clippings

[Anonymous No.16540976]

>>16540960
I prefer red

>>16540962
Chardonnay is the most acceptable of whites

[Anonymous No.16541007]

For me it's Beaumes de Venise
>Around 8/15e
>Delicious
>14°

[Anonymous No.16541057]

>>16539608
>yes, all Rhone wines should be decanted at least 2 hours
Not the one you replied to but, really? Is there a general guide to decanting times when you're unsure?

[Anonymous No.16541072]

>>16540962
People should try other white wine than muh noble grapes. Rhone and Languedoc have nice white blends, shit with bourboulenc is usually great. Italian whites other than pino grigio are also underrated.

[Anonymous No.16541441]

>>16541072
Just had my first barbera the other day, was phenomenal. Very fruity and dry like a heavy cab, but without the tannins

[Anonymous No.16541638]

>>16540962
Pinot gris/grigio can vary drasrically based on growing conditions and winemaking style. If you don't like one, try one at the other end of the spectrum- typically those labeled 'grigio' are stylistically light and lean, so try an Alsatian pinot gris- usually much richer, with more spice flavors and somrtimes even a smokiness from the type of soil there.

Also, as >>16541072 points out, there are TONS of white varietals out there. Try a north rhone style blend (marsanne/roussanne) for a wine with richness comparable to a chard but more nutty/beeswax/quince and less butter/caramel. Try a grenache blanc, or a dry chenin- especially with some age. Try some of the dozens and dozens off less-known regional types.

>>16541057
There are general guidelines but it's not as easy as that. You decant less as the wine ages, and decant more on wines with strong tannins. Eventually you'll get a feel for what the wine needs- if it gives the impression of being 'closed' (dull/muted aroma) then it probably needs more oxygen.

[Anonymous No.16541758]

>>16539991
Decoy and Duckhorn are massively overrated for the quality. Decoy tastes barely different from $15-$20 Cali cabs like Liberty School or Joel Gott.

[Anonymous No.16541802]

>>16538869
My family usually orders a bunch of boxes of this, shares them between relatives and then just drink them.
My favourite is the Oro but we usually also buy Rosso, Rosa and Malbech.
What am I drinking tonight? Water.
I actually haven't had some wine in quite a bit, same goes for alcohol.

[Anonymous No.16541847]

>>16538869
>Still can't believe how little one of the most food friendly alcoholic beverage is discussed here.

The majority of posters on here are from a place that can't even use 'entrée' correctly, what did you expect?

[Anonymous No.16541849]

>>16541758
ok

[Anonymous No.16541855]

not much of a wine dude but i try different styles from time to time. this is right up my alley

[Anonymous No.16541880]

I've enjoyed all wines with the Nero D'avola grape. It just goes right up my alley but there's not that many to get around here. Something like 6 or 7 of them. Maybe not that weird considering it's mostly (only?) made in Sicily.

[Anonymous No.16541968]

Has anyone tried Cabernet Malbec blends?
Do they taste very different from Cabernet Merlot blends from comparable area'

[Anonymous No.16541980]

>>16540962
>>16541638
As an Italian, I would recommend only Pinot Grigio from Friuli Venezia Giulia, if we are talking about Italian PG.

[Anonymous No.16541985]

>>16541980
nobody cares luigi, go make me a pizza, wine is not your domain

[Anonymous No.16542051]

>>16541980
>Friuli Venezia Giulia
One of my favorite wine regions, i've had a zero sugar Prosecco that was divine. Cool orange wine and local varietals(schioppettino) too
>>16541968.
Yes.
>>16541441
I gotta look into accessible Piedmont wines, always seemed an expensive region to me.

[Anonymous No.16542126]

>>16541980
>>16539219
>>16542051
Friuli is one of my favorite Italian Wine Regions I love the whites and the Orange wines I have been on a Friuli kick all summer. Glad to see some fellow anons appreciating it too.

[Anonymous No.16542191]

>>16541968
cab/malbec blends are overwhelmingly argentinian/chilean, which means you're gonna be in for a shitton of acid until you hit 30-40 dollars


>>16541880
Nero D'avola is pretty structurally similar to Xinomavro and Nebbiolo, but because the american wine market wants to buy grapes rather than regions, you'll only ever see a fraction of a fraction of highly regional Italian wines.

[Anonymous No.16542200]

The best wine under $15 in my humble opinion. The 2018 is a bliss.

[Anonymous No.16542202]

>>16538869
We don't discuss it here because we aren't gay homosexuals (except the 25 of you posting in this thread). /ck/ is a straight board and that's why the only booze threads allowed are whiskey threads.

[Anonymous No.16542204]

>>16541968
Try some argentinian Malbec-Bonarda blends. Very elegant wines.

[Anonymous No.16542217]

>>16541758
I've had people tell me Decoy is waaaaaaay cheaper quality than Duckhorn. I bought a bottle of 2017 Duckhorn merlot a few months ago on clearance, hope it's good.

[Anonymous No.16542393]

>>16542202
>/ck/ is an alcohol abusing degenerate infested board and that's why the only booze threads allowed are whiskey threads
FTFY

[Anonymous No.16542690]

>>16542202
>gatekeeping on /ck/

[Anonymous No.16542718]

>doc says I can't drink anymore
Fugg

[Anonymous No.16542937]

I'm more of a cheap sherry guy myself
Fino sherry is real good with some tapas though it's a bit more costly

[Anonymous No.16542994]

>>16542126
This. Friuli makes some fantastic wine.

>>16541855 if you like fino sherry you might really like vin jaune and tokaji szamorodni; both develop under a skin of yeast (voile/flor) in the same way fino/manzanilla sherries do. Vin jaune is markedly richer and can age and develop for a huge length of time, like 60+ years. Dry tokaji has a fascinating mix of characteristics, being partially botrytized then fermented to dry and aged under a yeast veil. It's really cool.

[Anonymous No.16543087]

>wine thread
>barely any c*lifornia swill
>the few that get posted are promptly put in their place
when did /ck/ get so patrician?

[Anonymous No.16543435]

>>16541880
Xinomavro, aglianico, and petit sirah come to mind for sure, as well as old-world cab sauv. Nebbiolo could be a good pick too, potentially, although it's markedly more tannic.

[Anonymous No.16543460]

What are peoples' experience with cask wine in here? Supposedly there are good producers these days but I can't get over the idea of it being cheap sugary shit.
I mainly want something that I can store long term for the occasional use in cooking and to have a glass or two sporadically. I don't like buying bottles because I feel once I've opened it I need to drink it all within the day. Wondering what I should be looking for with whites (something like a sauv blanc) and reds (will probably look at shiraz)

[Anonymous No.16543498]

Gonna have this tonight, spanish wine is nice

[Anonymous No.16543625]

>>16538869
Right now having a glass of pic related. Really neat stuff for anyone who's a fan of dry madeira or dry oloroso sherry- super complex, nutty, great acid, and a fantastic deal comparatively too.

[Anonymous No.16543634]

>>16543625
It's rancio sec de macabeu, didn't realize the front label didn't say that.

[Anonymous No.16543793]

>>16538869
>Still can't believe how little one of the most food friendly alcoholic beverage is discussed here
There's too many options and its too regional. You've tried none of my favorites. The reason we manage to keep whisky threads up on the other hand is that everyone is drinking the same stuff so the discussion can actually be meaningful (despite brand embargo and ecolabel fags).

[Anonymous No.16543908]

can anyone recommend wine that smells like piss or sweat? i know the question is weird but...this is like exactly my kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.16543922]

>>16538869
Scnaps is haps 40 :% proof as cold as fuck

[Anonymous No.16544064]

>>16543908
Might want to try sake.

[Anonymous No.16544108]

>>16543908
manzanilla sherry

[Anonymous No.16544262]

>>16540962
>he doesnt drink riesling
absolute tastelet

[Anonymous No.16544283]

should it taste like im drinking rubbing alcohol
whats it supposed to taste like

[Anonymous No.16544291]

a college professor of mine developed an app called wine inmind for iphone you should try it out

[Anonymous No.16544309]

>>16538888
Nice, very impressive

[Anonymous No.16544753]

>>16544283
Wine at its worst is supposed to basically be vinegar
I remember seeing some documentary a while back and this sommelier was saying something like "all wine wants to become vinegar, you just have to catch it at the right time on its journey"

[Anonymous No.16545075]

I can't stand wine for some reason so I decided to have some fun and mix wine, vodka, abd root beer and I expected it to be repulsive
But it ain't half bad

[Anonymous No.16545084]

>>16544283
I hate wine but it doesn't taste like rubbing alcohol to me
It's everything besides the alcohol that I hate
I like alcohol, I can handle harder liquor, but wine disgusts me
That's how I felt about beer for a while until I started to get it. I hope the same happens with wine.

[Anonymous No.16545100]

>>16539219
>Vin jaune and North Rhone syrah
Based, I do seem to be enjoying northern Rhône whites more recently.

[Anonymous No.16545107]

>>16544283
It shouldn't taste of alcohol at all.

[Anonymous No.16545126]

>>16538869
Faves so far:
>Vega Sicilia Unico Reserva Especial 2020
>Massetino 2018
I'll probaby have a not-so-expensive Californian wine tonight, like a McManis or Gnarly Head.

[Anonymous No.16545128]

>>16545107
Yeah why is this
I can taste alcohol in every other drink besides wine

[Anonymous No.16545168]

>>16545128
acid helps mask alcohol, that's why sour drinks are usually easier to chug down for young people

[Anonymous No.16545382]

>>16542202
whiskey is for wannabe macho posers and alcoholics
wine is literally the drink of the gods

[Anonymous No.16545402]

i had a savvy b + shiraz pet nat tonight. really good

[Anonymous No.16545611]

>>16545126
>drinking a Vega Sicilia that young
Not gonna make it brah

[Anonymous No.16545709]

>>16545611
>implying I don't have multiple bottles intended for ageing 20-40 years
I just wanted to try what it's like as-is for comparison in a couple of decades

[Anonymous No.16546201]

>>16539608

1 hrs or more for a typical rhone red would be overkill imo, youd go well past that prime drinking window unless it was a particularly ballsy rhone

recently had a mont redon chateauneuf that was g2g 5-10 mins after opening.

i find only big heavy stonking reds need the 1hr+ decant times you see advised in generic wine advice info. rhone blends tend to be more on the medium-bodied side

[Anonymous No.16546212]

>>16539594
Look for recommendations online and try to explore regions with a climate/soil different to your own. Aus and French wines are a good start, you can get some fantastic ones at a cheap price.

[Anonymous No.16546218]

>>16538869
>Still can't believe how little one of the most food friendly alcoholic beverage is discussed here.
Because there's 500,000,000 different varieties and trying enough of them to have a favorite is virtually impossible without committing your entire life to it.

[Anonymous No.16546246]

I like Sutter Home cause it's cheap and has a screw top. White zinfandel or sauvignon blanc. With ice. Love to sip it when I take DXM.

[Anonymous No.16546455]

>>16546212
Good advice. I started my wine journey jumping into burgundy wines, and now I'm mostly into Spanish, Super Tuscan, and Cali wines.
Also, try to test out new wines with food (steak, beef stews, game, etc) to get a feel how they function in combination with other flavors.

[Anonymous No.16546493]

>WINE JOURNEY

[Anonymous No.16546606]

>>16546212
bAroSsA sHiRaZ!@!*@1111!!

[Anonymous No.16546631]

This mf has got me very curious about sherry recently, where should I start?

[Anonymous No.16546634]

>>16546631
niles probably drinks cream sherry from sandeman or osborne

[Anonymous No.16547841]

>>16546606
It's decent, what's the meme?

[Anonymous No.16547851]

had a Rombauer fiddletown zin last night that was really good

[Anonymous No.16547876]

>>16542994
>vin jaune
>>16539219
>Vin jaune
Is this becoming popular I keep seeing this pop up and appear on menus lately

>>16541855
Lol I had a 375ml bottle of this last night with jamon, manchego, almonds, and some anchovies on tomato toast

[Anonymous No.16547892]

>>16546631
pedro ximenez with a chocolate cake with some kind of caramel element to it or a snickers bar
Then try some chilled Fino with fried sardines

[Anonymous No.16547910]

Do any of you watch wineking? What other wine you tube shows are there or wine podcasts that are like this?

[Anonymous No.16547950]

>>16546631
>dry and yeasty
fino or manzanilla
>oxidized
oloroso or amontillado or palo cortado
>sweet
cream or PX

[Anonymous No.16547970]

>>16547950
>oloroso or amontillado or palo cortado
i really wat to try these but i can only find cream versions of them
I had this one and it was really good https://warejacob.com/winkel/barbadillo-sherry-amontillado-nv/
>>16546631
i've had a cream amontillado with reese's peanut butter cups and that was amazing, you should try it

[Anonymous No.16548055]

>>16538869

>Still can't believe how little one of the most food friendly alcoholic beverage is discussed here.

Almost like most of the sites population are literal children who are too young to legally buy wine where they live...

[Anonymous No.16548178]

thoughts on wines from mendocino county in california? i'm an assistant winemaker in the anderson valley, I think our pinots are pretty world-class personally

[Anonymous No.16548192]

>>16548178
californian wines are dogshit and you're nothing more than a glorified vinegar maker

[Anonymous No.16548258]

>>16538869
I love wine threads... One thing this reminds me of is memories of being young, and naive... drinking cheap Lambrusco wine on the Janiculum hill overlooking Rome at sunset. Love that memory...

[Anonymous No.16548289]

>>16548178
california zin > pinot

[Anonymous No.16548317]

Can /ck/ recommend me a good shiraz/petit syrah that is easily available and sub $40? Been craving a good one.

[Anonymous No.16548324]

>>16548192
rude

[Anonymous No.16548388]

>>16545709
>implying you do
Jokes aside thats always a good strategy if you got the dough. In my market I'd be lucky to find even a single bottle of Vega Sicilia given how little we get and how savage the wine buyers and scalpers are with allocations, and lets not even talk about DRC.

[Anonymous No.16548409]

>>16548178
Mendocino makes alright pinot noirs but the region itself seems too warm even if it is on North Coast.
I've heard it's better for varietals like Barbera and Cab Franc which I'd be curious to try if I ever make it to NorCal someday.
Which winery do ya work for m8? Hook me up with dank barrel samples.

[Anonymous No.16549191]

>>16548317
I like Hervé Souhauts' Syrah wines (some years way more than others). You really need to pair them with food though.

[Anonymous No.16549201]

>>16548178
>thoughts on wines from mendocino county in california
Youre the best county in a dogshit soil. Your terra noir aint shit and your climate buttfucks your whites. Finger Lakes wines are the best American wines

[Anonymous No.16549247]

>tfw my 1999 Clos de Tart was corked

[Anonymous No.16549283]

>>16538869
>Wine goes with food
Never got this meme, with sweet wines like Moscato paired with cake or something being the only exception. With every other main dish, beer would be preferable, at least for me. Steak, chicken, pork, fish/shellfish, all go down better with a pint of beer. Only other thing that works well with steak, in my opinion, is whiskey, but red wine? No thanks.

[Anonymous No.16549299]

>>16549283
>beer or moscato
imagine being this much of a tastelet

[Anonymous No.16549304]

>>16549299
Keep talking shit and I'm going to taste your asshole.

[Anonymous No.16549307]

Give me the most earthy wine you can think of. Preferably Italian.

[Anonymous No.16549347]

Bought a very cheap deloach zin that was awful for two days but then on the third day was suddenly, actually good. Pro tip, if your wine is 6.99$ let it breathe for 72 hours before you drink it

[Anonymous No.16549365]

>>16549304
lol you'd probably like it given your choice of beverage

[Anonymous No.16549373]

>>16549307
old-ass barolo or etna rosso

[Anonymous No.16549394]

>>16542202
Wine is actually good for /ck/ because of food paring and can be used as an ingredient. Whiskey just burns your mouth and you can't taste anything.

[Anonymous No.16549418]

>>16549307
Josko Gravner, Bianco Breg. 1998 or older.

It doesn't get earthier than wine stored in amphorae.

[Anonymous No.16549467]

What's your current inexpensive daily drinker?

[Anonymous No.16549638]

>>16548317
Stags' Leap Petite Sirah

[Anonymous No.16549644]

>>16549283
Red meat + high tannin wine is god tier, the tannins soften the meat and the wine tastes more bold as a result

[Anonymous No.16549650]

>>16549467
St Hubert's the stag red blend

[Anonymous No.16549687]

>>16547910
Love it. It's the best show. The rest is just boring

[Anonymous No.16549700]

>>16549467
Don't really drink anything regularly but this is affordable and pretty good. From fruit outside of Chablis but really tight, mineral and Chablisienne. Good stuff.

[Anonymous No.16549717]

>>16549418
Lol no one on 4chan is going to go out and buy that.

[Anonymous No.16549722]

>>16549307
Go grab some Chianti Classico or some Nebbiolo. Relatively easy to obtain.

[Anonymous No.16549726]

>>16549247
>corkcucks will still advocate for their inferior closure

[Anonymous No.16549732]

>>16549365
cute cat

[Anonymous No.16549747]

>>16538869
I've never had wine before, what's it taste like? Does it taste sweet? Does it taste like fruit? If I want to get into wine, what should I start with? Are there any decent or passable wines that aren't expensive?

[Anonymous No.16549768]

>>16549747
>I've never had wine before, what's it taste like?
A lot of things.

>Does it taste sweet?
Sometimes.

>Does it taste like fruit?
Yes.

>If I want to get into wine, what should I start with?
Riesling and Gamay (Beaujolais) are very good options because they're fruity and easygoing. That being said if you'd like something heavier, try out a Merlot or Zinfandel. For these latter two, try not to buy the cheapest wine available, you may not like it.

>Are there any decent or passable wines that aren't expensive?
Depends on what your idea of expensive is.

[Anonymous No.16549781]

>>16549768
I do like things that are sweet and/or fruity. Are there any good places to buy wine online?

[Anonymous No.16549810]

>>16549781
Riesling from Germany (and then anywhere else) is probably your best bet, followed by Gamay.

Where do you live?

[Anonymous No.16549817]

>>16549810
I live in America.

[Anonymous No.16549862]

Just poured a glass of Sisters Run 2018 Shiraz. I'm thinking this is based.

[Anonymous No.16549889]

>>16549817
Find an independent wine store near you that looks good and buy from their website.

[Anonymous No.16549896]

>>16549862
>McLaren Vale Shiraz
>not McLaren Vale Grenache
not based at all

[Anonymous No.16549902]

>>16543908
NZ Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc.

[Anonymous No.16549920]

>>16545382
Truth

[Anonymous No.16549932]

>>16549896
it was on cheap.

[Anonymous No.16549935]

>>16547910
What >>16549687 said. Jay and Peter are the best entertainment. Wine education wise, Wine With Jimmy is best. The Unknown Winecast is good too but I think he died from covid.

Anyone know why Pat left Jay? Pat has his own channel now.

[Anonymous No.16549957]

>>16542051
>buying Prosecco from slavs
To mare omo

[Anonymous No.16549969]

>>16547910
Yeah I do, shame Patrick left, the production value of his videos are not as good.

That being said Jay's non-wine videos suck, especially with Peter's obnoxious dudebro son.

I wish they drank non-boomer wines more often, but that's what Koreans drink unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.16550007]

>>16549307
Sagrantino di Montefalco can get pretty earthy as well as super tannic.

[Anonymous No.16550069]

>>16548388
Where do you live, anon?

[Anonymous No.16550097]

>>16549957
It was probably named sparkling white instead of prosecco.
>>16549418
>>16549717
Quite a few natural wines are aged in amphorae for reasonable prices.
>>16549307
Relatively cheap, fun, earthy is an aged(6y-8y at least) Morgon cru du Beaujolais. Earthy burgundy style tertiary aromas for cheap.

[Anonymous No.16550099]

>>16550097
>Quite a few natural wines are aged in amphorae for reasonable prices.
Yeah but a lot aren't that earthy, nor widely available for the average /ck/ browser.

[Anonymous No.16550111]

>>16550099
>widely available for the average /ck/ browser.
Sucks not to live in Europe I guess.

[Anonymous No.16550116]

>>16550111
The same is true for a lot of flyover Europe too.

[Anonymous No.16550215]

>>16549935
>Anyone know why Pat left Jay? Pat has his own channel now.
WTF I didn't even know, I thought Jay was just visiting Peter and Patrick one at a time because of covid?

>>16549935
>Wine With Jimmy is best. The Unknown Winecast
Thanks I'll look these up

[Anonymous No.16550220]

>>16549969
>shame Patrick left,
has he actually said this?

[Anonymous No.16550262]

>>16550215
>>16550220
Pat hasn't been on wineking for months and he made his own channel. Jay changed the intros and his website to remove him.

I wonder if Pat is still Jay's landlord?

Anyone paying for the wine course thing of theirs?

[Anonymous No.16550452]

>>16549969
That son really is the worst. I don't know how Peter could spend a lifetime cultivating an appreciation of subtle and interesting flavors and just leave his son to spout shit opinions on in-n-out that he borrowed off twitter

[Anonymous No.16550493]

>>16545382
>wine is literally the drink of the gods
How many wine-patrician anons in these threads are going full /x/ and performing rituals or prayers to Dionysus/Bacchus for cool wine and more, and they just don't talk about it?

[Anonymous No.16550496]

>>16542994
Magyar borok on /ck/

[Anonymous No.16550659]

Does anyone here use any rating sites to pick wines?

I currently have a bit of a side programming project where I scrape wines on vivino.com and my country's alcohol monopoly store* and correlate them using fuzzy string matching.
Found a bunch of pretty good value wines that way, but one thing I noticed is that these tend to sway very much to the high alcohol side. Is that generally a thing with wine ratings? I guess it's the same with beers..

* It's the Norwegian Vinmonopolet. Kinda sucks that there's only one place to buy stuff, but OTOH they have some pretty wide offerings and better wines aren't even that expensive since they operate at cost.

[Anonymous No.16550668]

>>16550659
The top bang-for-buck ratio wine was this one, a Moldovan saperavi. Very good, considering it was only $32 (by Norwegian standards).

[Anonymous No.16550671]

>>16550659
more alcohol more flavor

[Anonymous No.16551055]

>>16549902
This is the correct answer. Connoisseur grade Sauv Blanc smells like a cat's litterbox.

[Anonymous No.16551804]

>>16542191
>which means you're gonna be in for a shitton of acid until you hit 30-40 dollars
I noticed that. I bought a couple of cheap wines from Argentina and, while good, they were a lot more acidic than I expected.

[Anonymous No.16551828]

>>16550668
Saperavi is a fantastic grape. Since I worked in Georgia I wanted to plant an acre or so with it but it would be a pain because of regulations.

[Anonymous No.16551851]

WINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LIKE THIS KIND!!!! AM I A FAG!?!?!?!?

[Anonymous No.16551933]

>>16551828
Yeah, I should probably buy a few more bottles of that one and age them a bit.

Another find was this Ribera del Duero. The magnums were actually cheaper by volume than the 75cl bottles.

[Anonymous No.16552208]

>>16550262
>I wonder if Pat is still Jay's landlord?
that'd be interesting to know
>>16550262
>Anyone paying for the wine course thing of theirs?
It's pure speculation, but I wonder if something about this caused them to go their different ways

[Anonymous No.16552222]

>>16550659
I wouldn't trust vivino, it's aimed at the masses so you just get an opinion of what the masses like in their wine

[Anonymous No.16552240]

>>16552222
Yeah, I'm starting to get that. Got any other recommendations?

[Anonymous No.16552256]

>>16539991
I thought dry and smooth were opposite?

[Anonymous No.16552264]

>>16552256
Dry and sweet are opposite.

[Anonymous No.16552450]

>>16552222
As if you're not part of the masses.

[Anonymous No.16552481]

>>16549726
in all fairness I bought it cheap from a guy who goes to the estates of rich people when the husband dies and offers the stupid wife a 30% lump sum for their cellar

[Anonymous No.16552510]

>>16552450
I know I am that's why I would rather try wines that wine experts say are good, I'm sorry I couldn't think of a better word than masses but it wasn't meant to be pretensions. I meant to say that what the mass consumer says is good is very different to what someone who is trained to identify quality wines says is good.
>>16552240
I do take a quick look at vivino and look at the reviews and then click of the reviewer if they seem to have a lot of wine reviews to try and see if they have a wine qualification, they normally list it if they do and they are normally the people who have tried a lot of wines.

The other thing I do is use wine searcher and then click on reviews wine searcher lists how many points a wine got based on reviews in Decanter, Wine Enthusiast, Jancis Robinson and other renowned wine magazines or wine reviewers. (an example https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/montaudon+brut+champagne+france/-/-/-/x#t3))

[Anonymous No.16552622]

>>16552510
winesearcher is probably the most comprehensive db but I find it can be lacking in reviews and sometimes they're paywalled.

Vivino is definitely pretty normie, they want money from you, and their customer service sucks.

[Anonymous No.16552678]

>>16538869
Chianti Classico is my go to. Look for the black cock.

[Anonymous No.16552689]

>>16552510
Cellar Tracker is the best confluence of knowledgeable and varied since there's a ton of different drinker types on there, and it's not paywalled which is nice

[Anonymous No.16552694]

>>16552481
>>16550659

[Anonymous No.16552704]

>>16552622
>but I find it can be lacking in reviews and sometimes they're paywalled.
yeah I agree
>>16552678
black cock is great

[Anonymous No.16552709]

>>16552689
how does it work? I thought cellar tracker was just a not as successful vivino

[Anonymous No.16552713]

I dont drink much wine but I got an ad for this site and got 7 bottles for $56. Only drank 2 so far. One was lost city malbec. didnt care for it. the other was this Stone Lantern
Cabernet Sauvignon and I liked it. What should I drink tonight? still have
zinfandel
cabernet sauvignon
pinot noir
riesling
Rosé

[Anonymous No.16552793]

>>16552713
>zinfandel
i really like primitivo

[Anonymous No.16552818]

>>16552709
yes and no
smaller sample size but a much more robust community with a lot more detailed reviews and less of the normiesphere brandwhoring
the average ratings are quite a bit lower which is a good thing considering everything on vivino has at least a 3.9

[Anonymous No.16552913]

>>16549373
Seconding etna rosso if you want Italian. If you're willing to go outside italy, bandol (mourvedre) is a great pick.

[Anonymous No.16552933]

>>16549418
This is a great rec too. Lots of great orange wines from Friuli if that particular one is hard to find- Radikon Oslavje is another incredible pick, though admittedly not quite as earthy as Breg.

>>16552793
Generally, although they're the same grape, wines calling themselves zinfandel will be stylistically quite different from those called primitivo, same deal as syrah vs shiraz

[Anonymous No.16552945]

Fuck you bud my sac stinks

[Anonymous No.16553026]

>>16550493
I unironically pour a large amphora of wine over myself every month on the full moon

[Anonymous No.16553079]

>>16553026
If you're not doing it at an orgy it don't count

[Anonymous No.16554464]

>>16542718
Why?

[Anonymous No.16554470]

>>16548192
based

[Anonymous No.16554494]

>>16554464
he says the wine is making all the cum I ingest curdle and this is causing me to have diarrhea, he says you have to give up one or the other to stop the curdling and I decided to give up wine

[Anonymous No.16554506]

>>16554494
damn that'd be a hard choice for me.

[Anonymous No.16554913]

Mmmmm pesticides, so good! Sad it's so heavily doused in it even the so called organic ones tested for positive for glycophosphate.

[Anonymous No.16554985]

>>16554913
>glycophosphate
its glyphosate dummy

[Anonymous No.16555345]

Today is a good day to die!

[Anonymous No.16555377]

>>16538869
I'm waiting for some cheap Penfolds to drop so I can hoard and enjoy, it's one of those top brands that everyone collects due to quality and resell value but idc I just wanna drink it

[Anonymous No.16555384]

>>16550069
Canada.

[Anonymous No.16555393]

>>16550659
I know a lot of people who use Vivino and Cellartracker if they aren't already using scores from sites like Jancis Robinson, Wine Advocate, James Suckling, Decanter, etc.
I will say that Domaine de Bellene Nuits-St-Georges is fantastic despite the $175+ price point.

[Anonymous No.16555394]

>>16555345
looks like for gamers by gamers

[Anonymous No.16555398]

>>16555377
Do you not regularly get even the $15 Penfolds where you are, or are you referring to their Bin wines?

[Anonymous No.16555410]

It’s because 4chan is mostly American posters and many Americans (especially younger men) get strangely defensive and antagonistic about wine.

[Anonymous No.16555448]

>>16555394
its literally licensed star trek wine

[Anonymous No.16555451]

>>16555398
In Australia, I try to grab bin but been chasing the higher end stuff 30-50$

[Anonymous No.16555935]

>>16555448
that's pretty gay man

[Anonymous No.16556097]

Where do you buy your wine? I have a warehouse called bottlebarn on the other side of the city that has an amazing selection. If I don't feel like going all the way over there I go to trader Joe's, there's an old hippie guy that works the alcohol section that always has decent recommendations.

[Anonymous No.16556664]

>>16556097
>Where do you buy your wine?
supermarket's, small business wine shops, alcohol shops, most businesses have an online component nowadays so I can check prices and check what wines they have against reviews before I buy

[Anonymous No.16556952]

>>16555448
>>16555345
based as fuck.

drink 1
sell the rest later.

[Anonymous No.16557041]

>>16549969
I just watched some of Patrick's video's, it's nice to see his wife and the vinyard video was interesting but I miss the jovial talk and teasing between Patrick, Jay and Peter

[Anonymous No.16557579]

>>16539694
nah the cheap ones taste like chemicals and are harsh. $15 and up and you start to taste the difference where they are more aromatic and fruity.

[Anonymous No.16557589]

>>16549810
Kung Fu Girl makes a good Riesling from Washington state

[Anonymous No.16558483]

>>16557589
Saw some sommelier documentary where they talked about dry Rieslings, haven't seen one yet in stores and would very much like to try one

[Anonymous No.16558552]

>>16538869
Drinking Low Hanging Fruit Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon Wine
It's decent for cheap wine but I wish I was drinking Rioja, Beaujolais or something else

[Anonymous No.16558558]

>>16551851
Louis Jadot is good
I might buy some next check

[Anonymous No.16558564]

I got a bottle of Joel Gott 2018 Cabernet Sauvignon.

Am I a stupid fucking retard? Or is it going to be aaaaaall good?

[Anonymous No.16558667]

>>16558483
Insane given most Riesling is dry.

[Anonymous No.16558673]

>>16557041
I agree, I miss the banter too. I don't really like Pat's wife at all though, she just seems like some generic trophy wife with more braincells than average.

[Anonymous No.16558696]

Can anyone recommend me a white wine for use in pasta sauces? I've heard I should use cheap stuff if I'm cooking with it but is that true?

[Anonymous No.16558743]

>>16558696
No, cheap wines taste even worse when used in cooking. Never use a wine to cook with if you wouldn't drink it in the first place. I usually use Gustave Lorentz riesling when cooking, tastes like floral lemon juice after reducing.

[Anonymous No.16558823]

>>16558564
It's OK. Not amazing but decent for what it's worth. Good with ribeye or lamb if you're having it with food.

[Anonymous No.16558826]

is it okay if the only wine I like to drink is sacramental wine from a Catholic church?
What recommendations would you give me to drink outside the church

[Anonymous No.16558840]

>>16558826
Well if you like holy wine maybe try Vinsanto if you want really REALLY good sweet wine that's made for long term cellaring but can still drink now. Some of the best are from Chianti and have lots of rich candied citrus and baking spice notes.

[Anonymous No.16558845]

only thing worth sippin'

[Anonymous No.16558871]

>>16558826
Just ask what the priest uses.

[Anonymous No.16558872]

This is the nectar of the gods.

[Anonymous No.16558884]

>>16558872
sounds cool man, love Etna Bianco

[Anonymous No.16558911]

>>16558558
have you tried their pinot noir is this good?

[Anonymous No.16558993]

>>16558826
where I grew up the priests used carlo rossi

[Anonymous No.16559234]

>>16558840
Vin santo is Christmas to me. An old italian/tuscan business friend of my grandfather sends the best biscotti and a bottle of vin santo at Christmas every year. My grandfather sends him artisanal chocolate and a bottle of good gueuze/lambic.

[Anonymous No.16559510]

>>16558845

[Anonymous No.16559631]

I recommend all of you alcoholics to get into Spanish generosos. It's very different from your usual red or white whine and closer to porto, but without the sugar.

Basically Xerry wines, but the dry kinds.

[Anonymous No.16560173]

>>16559631
Had a 20yr Palo Cortado last winter from Williams and Humbert that was alright, but I think I prefer younger dry sherries to overly oaked ones (outside of Manzanilla and dry old PX which is a whole nother ballgame.)

[Anonymous No.16560226]

I bought a bottle of veneto orange wine, Pico.
It's good, if you like the style, but like many western orange he only uses the skins and maybe the seeds. In georgia, at least in the eastern part, they also used the stems. This year I will try to make some orange wine for my self and I will use the stems as well.

Also, maybe it's my limited experience with them, but I feel like orange wines are more similar to each other than white wines (with the same grapes) are.

[Anonymous No.16560274]

>>16558840
>>16559234
Beside Vinsanto from Toscana other options are Ramandolo from Friuli, Vin Santo from Trentino or Veneto, various recioto and torcolato from Veneto, and my favourite, Zibibbo from sicily (muscat grapes, so they have that muscat flavour)

[Anonymous No.16560280]

>>16560274
Wish I could find Zibibbo but only Sicilian wines I ever see are Nero D'Avola, Grillo or Nerello Mascalese. Italy is so underrated for sweet wines and even reciotos never seem to get into North American as often as any other still wine from Italy.

[Anonymous No.16560312]

>>16553026
Recite the orphic hymns to Bacchus at the same time if you're dead serious

[Anonymous No.16560630]

>>16560173
Same. I like them all but i like the cool kinds more.4ANT2

[Anonymous No.16560832]

where is everyone from in this thread?
>>16560173
>Palo Cortado
I've never tried this but I have loved every sherry I've tried so far, which is >>16559631
3/5 of these

[Anonymous No.16560918]

>>16560832
kabul

[Anonymous No.16560960]

>>16560918
Hahaha very funny

[Anonymous No.16561251]

>>16560832
I'm from the Central Valley in California, been taking day trips to Paso Robles every now and then and loving the wines over there

[Anonymous No.16561553]

>>16561251
Paso sounds like such a fun place to visit. Really wanna try Tablas' wines at some point as i hear Syrah does super well there.

[Anonymous No.16562320]

>>16561553
Actually just went to Tablas last week for the first time, their blends were fire, especially cotes de tablas

[Anonymous No.16562324]

>>16560832
>where is everyone from in this thread?
Sonoma County CA, sucks not being able to go wine tasting because of covid

[Anonymous No.16562325]

>>16561553
Also if you're looking for a great Rhone centered winery there, try Epoch

[Anonymous No.16562597]

>>16560832
Spain.

[Anonymous No.16562639]

Only found out recently I like drinking Shiraz and Pinot Noir, all this time I was wasting drinking Cabernet Sauvignons and Merlots.

[Anonymous No.16562834]

>>16560832
Melbourne, Australia.

[Anonymous No.16563560]

>>16560832
Canuckistan
>>16562325
Thanks for the rec! Didn't realize Paso did Graciano so I may have to make a trip down soon!

[Anonymous No.16563581]

>>16547910
Shit is cringe as a fuck. Asians really don't have soul.
Fuck those boomers too.

[Anonymous No.16563590]

ah yes my dear let me taste that delicious shoe leather and tobacco spit with subtle notes of baked dirt

[Anonymous No.16563642]

>>16563590
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.16563663]

>>16563590
Shoo shoo slimey tastelet

[Anonymous No.16563668]

>>16539694

[Anonymous No.16563744]

>>16548258
Got that reference

[Anonymous No.16564535]

>>16560280
I know, I work in the industry and it's often said we are 20 years behind the french in the marketing area. We are just awful at selling ourselves and our wines.

[Anonymous No.16564738]

>>16564535
Right, it's all down to the """marketing"""...
PAHAHAHAHAHAH COPE HARDER LUIGI

[Anonymous No.16566285]

First time trying Pinot Noir coming from a lot of Merlot and Cabernet. Wishing I had of tried Pinot Noir sooner.

[Anonymous No.16566931]

>>16560832
NZ

[Anonymous No.16566960]

>>16562324
Ayyy wassup fellow sonoma county chad. Thank goodness they put that wildfire out last weekend.

[Anonymous No.16567012]

>>16564535
Maybe ask Nutella, Lavazza, Barilla, Illy, Consorzio di San Daniele,... what they're doing right?

It has nothing to do with marketing and everything with monopolies and taxes. Either you pay 2x the price of a bottle or you go get it yourself in Italy.

[Anonymous No.16567098]

>>16539694
shut up retard

[Anonymous No.16567260]

Last night's corpses. The clear bottle was a meme carbonic maceration rhone cabernet sauvignon made by a 15yo kid, pretty good for a first wine desu.

>>16542051
>I gotta look into accessible Piedmont wines, always seemed an expensive region to me.
The Langhe was cheap (8.5€) and pretty good too, gotta cash out for a Barolo next time.

[Anonymous No.16567301]

every single glass of wine i have ever had - cheap, expensive or retardedly expensive - tasted the same, you may taste some very mild flavour but the alcohol just covers it anyways

same with any other type of alcoholic drinks, i don't get it, are people just lying that they taste something that's written on the bottle to cope with the fact that they are just trying to get wasted?

[Anonymous No.16567337]

>>16567301
Try to find a good independent shop and ask for accessible wines, maybe a good Beaujolais. If you've only had supermarket/badly stored wine I can understand it's all shit to you. And yes, people do drink alcohol for the taste, it might not be the case for you.

[Anonymous No.16567505]

>>16566285
Cheap Pinot Noir is a bit too light and often bland to me compared to other wines at similar price points. But if you like light body wine then it might work for you of course.

[Anonymous No.16567942]

>>16542051
>accessible Piedmont wines
There's tons of stellar wine there that's less expensive, it just doesn't have the name recognition of, say, barolo or barbaresco, so it's often a bit of a hunt.

Langhe is your best bet for pure value, but it's really worth trying to find good vintages of it, as the quality is a lot more variable than barolo (imo). Gattinara is also a good region for value. If you want top tier nebbiolo without as drastic a price, Roero DOCG is probably your best bet. It only recently got its DOCG status so it's not as well known and thus way cheaper than barolo/barbaresco.

If you just want something cool and don't mind if it's both rare AND expensive, look for a wine called sforzato- essentially amarone made ffom nebbiolo.

[Anonymous No.16568817]

>>16538869
Pic related I got from Costco recently and was surprised by the quality for like $12.

How do you guys deal with bottles of wine that you already opened? I love drinking a whole bottle in one evening, but that's not always practical when you just want to have a glass with dinner. I use those little bottle stoppers and put it in the fridge but it never tastes as good as the first day, particularly the reds.

[Anonymous No.16568843]

i don't drink wine have maybe a few times in my entire life and just sips. i really don't drink much period but only due to medical reasons (barrets) recently i bought an 18$ of i think white?? it was a green bottle and the wine itself was like mostly yellowish color. was pretty good desu, not super harsh and i got this nice grape aftertaste. no idea where to even begin with wines but i see some helpful notes iTT

[Anonymous No.16568852]

>>16567260
you drank five bottles last night, or with frens? i'm not trying to hate just wondering, cuz that would be impressive solo lol

[Anonymous No.16568946]

>>16560832
late to the thread but WI fag here, hence only knowing beer and hard liquor

[Anonymous No.16569068]

>>16566285
Really shitty cheap PN. Don't buy anything from france for less than $20.

[Anonymous No.16569151]

>>16567012
No, it has plenty to do with marketing. Most people don't even know about most Italian wines, and we fail at selling them.

>ask nutella etc.
Specific individual brands, like those you mention, are very good at marketing.
The problem with our wine industry is that most denominations are awful at working like a team. Too many people think only about their little garden and not the big picture.

San Daniele or Grana Padano are exceptions.

[Anonymous No.16570062]

>>16568852
>you drank five bottles last night, or with frens?
>>16567260
I'm wondering the same thing


Thanks for sharing, I can actually buy the valpolicella from the supermarket here, are you from the Netherlands?

>>16568817
>How do you guys deal with bottles of wine that you already opened?
I do the same thing as you but I've not had the issue of it drastically changing in taste, if I didn't enjoy it or cannot fathom drinking more i'll cook with it

This pic might be interesting for you, do you guys go with the wine paring? This was the first time I had ever done it, seems like good value you get to try a lot but for a little.

[Anonymous No.16570116]

>>16570062
If you go somewhere that has a good tasting menu I 100% recommend doing wine pairings. You get to try a bunch of things, they're carefully chosen to pair well, and they can afford to open some cooler stuff than the things on the by-the-glass list since you'll almost always sell a good amount of the pairings, thus limiting your open-bottle waste cost.

As for the thread question, not drinking anything tonight but really curious to try my bottle of a Galician wine called Albamar Albino- it's a blanc de noirs of a rare native grape called caino tinto, which is then aged under flor like a fino or manzanilla sherry. Should definitely be interesting

[Anonymous No.16570149]

>>16570116
>Galician wine called Albamar Albino- it's a blanc de noirs of a rare native grape called caino tinto, which is then aged under flor like a fino or manzanilla sherry
cool it does sound interesting
>>16570116
>I 100% recommend doing wine pairings. You get to try a bunch of things, they're carefully chosen to pair well, and they can afford to open some cooler stuff than the things on the by-the-glass list since you'll almost always sell a good amount of the pairings, thus limiting your open-bottle waste cost.
Yes I never thought about it like that, I would always just have water but getting to try 7 different varieties of wine for the price of 2-3 bottles is great for learning

[Anonymous No.16570288]

>>16570149
tinto isn't a rare grape, its one of the most widely grown varities in spain, used to make temparnillo

[Anonymous No.16570313]

>>16570288
meant to respond to >>16570116

[Anonymous No.16570809]

Any wine bros save up for one of these yet? Way too expensive for me but would be a great investment for someone with high end bottles

[Anonymous No.16571010]

>>16570809
I worked at total wine for a few years and can unequivocally tell you that these are a giant waste of money for almost everyone
it will preserve your wine for a month or two--if you ONLY coravin it once
the moment you do it more than once, you've got maybe a week

the question is who the fuck has one glass of wine and then puts the bottle away, or who can't drink a wine over the course of 3 days after opening it, or who would rather spend 200-700 dollars on a conversational piece of limited-use technology rather than 200 dollars on a really nice wine

not even a poorfag cope, I have a shitton of expensive wine now and never use the coravin I was gifted

[Anonymous No.16571140]

>>16570809
I have the Walmart version.

[Anonymous No.16571379]

>>16560832
New Zealand

[Anonymous No.16571634]

For me its Chateau Pape Chlorine

[Anonymous No.16571646]

>>16571010
>>the question is who the fuck has one glass of wine and then puts the bottle away,
me, I hate getting drunk

[Anonymous No.16571727]

>>16571010
>the question is who the fuck has one glass of wine and then puts the bottle away,
people who stick to the alcohol guidelines of the WHO?

[Anonymous No.16572105]

>>16538869
Primitivo > any other wine

[Anonymous No.16572160]

>>16568852
>>16570062
Nah there were 3 of us, I don't think my stomach could handle 5 bottles solo even in my drinking days.

>Thanks for sharing, I can actually buy the valpolicella from the supermarket here, are you from the Netherlands?
Belgium, yeah it's supermarket wine my friend brought, first time I tasted ripasso which is valpolicella aged in amarone casks, wasn't amazing but good enough to discover the style.

>>16567942
Thanks for the tips, the Langhe I got was pretty balanced curious to see more tannic expressions.

[Anonymous No.16572439]

>>16571646
>>16571727
Yeah, wine is definitely for fags.

[Anonymous No.16572491]

>>16572439
what are you gonna do about it? let me suck your cock?

[Anonymous No.16572638]

>>16543460
Doesn't work once you open it you have to drink it all like a bottle. They need to sell individual tiny bottles.

[Anonymous No.16572830]

>>16543460
Most boxed wine is pretty much either trash or average wine. No good producer will do BiB for large formats as they'd get more money selling magnums or jeros then they would in a PET packaging. Same reason also can apply to why some wineries refuse to switch away from cork to screw cap.

[Anonymous No.16573013]

>>16572830
>Same reason also can apply to why some wineries refuse to switch away from cork to screw cap.
Around here, wines targeted at younger buyers are sold in GlassLock bottles. Though smaller producers can't afford the higher-than-average cost of that technology.

[Anonymous No.16573062]

>>16538869
My personal favorite right now is Wachter-Wiesler's Blaufränkisch Eisenberg "Béla Jóska", it's a deep purple-red in color and has some really funky barnyard notes that had me a bit concerned, but it actually comes across really juicy, fresh, and full. Good work, Austria.

[Anonymous No.16573117]

>>16570288
Tinto just means red. Caino is the varietal. In Spain it's primarily grown in the Rias Baixas, but even there it accpunts for under 1% of vines.

[Anonymous No.16573270]

>>16538869
all alcohol is just a glorified drug

[Anonymous No.16573462]

>>16573270
Just fuck a goat and shut the fuck up, talibro.

[Anonymous No.16573473]

Best wine I had in my life was a Christmas gift I received in 2007 from a client of the company I was working for at the time. They were a booze importer so it was unsurprising that their selection was so amazing. I was never able to find that wine again and now all I remember was it was a Sangiovese... goddammmit it was so good.

[Anonymous No.16574168]

Wine tastes like shit. Recommend me a type of red for winelets.

[Anonymous No.16574176]

>>16538869
Im white trash and wine fucking stinks.

[Anonymous No.16575579]

>>16538869
Can anymore recommend a wine club? I wanna try new flavors but I'm being too picky

[Anonymous No.16576017]

>>16566931
Good new zeland wines?

[Anonymous No.16576937]

>>16575579
Just go to a dedicated mom and pop wine shop and ask for suggestions and grab a few different styles. Wine clubs are mostly a scam.

[Anonymous No.16576989]

>>16567301
I am not expert on wine by any means
but I kinda like it as the taste and smell is subtle and you kinda train your senses trying to find something in wine. Unfortunately for cheap wine you need to really look for recommendations (e.g. vivino or internet) as otherwise at best it's just bland (sometimes more expensive wines can be too) or at worst it's undrinkable and I would simply prefer regular beer.
I think there is a reason why aristocracy liked and propagated (and still do) sex, wine, gourmet foods, arts and music. It trains and stimulates all 5 of your senses: touch, smell, taste, sight and hearing making you more alive.
You can find a lot of things in good more expensive wine and it can be really interesting journey. Unfortunately lunch becomes way too expensive really quick...

[Anonymous No.16577003]

>>16568843
It's more for entertainment, but I found youtube channel recently that I really liked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4RakOEZpMQ
I guess the best thing is go to some winery with good sommelier and have a wine tasting.
What I do at home is usually I decide for one region/or grape variety and order some bottles and drink only that until finished and then change to another. For example rn it's Sangiovese or Chanti. Just opened pic related and it's really really good.

[Anonymous No.16577024]

>>16574168
Install vivino app and buy wine for at least 30$ that has rating more than 4. That way it's a good chance you will try something real and from there you can start your journey to find something cheaper that is also good and fit your taste. Cheap wines for plebs are usually just kind of bland acidic drink that I agree is not that good and better just stick with beer.
Btw prepare some steak to accompany your good wine - both together will taste so much better.

[Anonymous No.16577031]

>>16572105
Yeah South Italian Primitivo has some good value. There are also some good cheap ones. It also often has a bit of sweetness. >>16574168 I think it's a very good wine to start with.

[Anonymous No.16577044]

>>16542202
>Whiskey
When will amerifats learn

[Anonymous No.16578333]

>>16542202
You don't discuss it because you are not patricians and just some simpleton poorfags and plebs

[Anonymous No.16578397]

winefags how the FUCK do I cook with wine
tons of recipes call for it but it also goes bad like a week after you open it

[Anonymous No.16578415]

>>16572105
>>16577031
I think it's also my favorite
>>16577003
>What I do at home is usually I decide for one region/or grape variety and order some bottles and drink only that until finished and then change to another
this is kind of what I do but because I live on my own it's a slow process

>>16577003
>Just opened pic related and it's really really good.
I don't really trust non-Valpolicella apassimento wines, I feel like apassimento is a trick to make poor grapes taste good, it doesn't feel authentic if you know what I mean?
>>16576017
They are known for their sauvignon blanc but I have only tried one (villa maria sauvignon blanc private bin), it was good though and is rated highly

[Anonymous No.16578454]

>>16578397
Not sure if I can help you there. A bottle of wine is a bit too little for me for an evening.

[Anonymous No.16578827]

>>16542202
there should always be a wine thread on /ck/

[Anonymous No.16578889]

>>16578827
Didn't expect this thread to be so popular when I started it, hopefully we can keep it going after this one reaches the limit

[Anonymous No.16579215]

>>16576017
>>16578415
>villa maria
Irony is that this is bottom shelf here, still very good though. Cloudy Bay is "the" sauv that everyone raves about, $40 - $60 a bottle even here and is a very good example of NZ sauv, everyone should try it once. There are a few good albarinos that come out of Marlborough as well. Nautilus does a nice one.

Central Otago pinot noir is excellent. Sam Neill's wine (Two Paddocks) is unironically very good and you should try it if you ever get the opportunity. Other notable producers are Chard Farm, Akarua, Peregrine. Misha's Vineyard produces a decent riesling. They are making some excellent pinot up in Martinborough as well.

Waiheke Island syrah is the world's best kept secret. Look out for anything from Stonyridge or Man'o'War.

Finally if you ever set your eyes on anything from Ostler you shouldn't think twice. Their Caroline's pinot noir is incredible and they do a fantastic riesling. They are based in the Waitaki Valley which is a lesser known newer NZ wine region to look out for.

[Anonymous No.16579263]

>>16567301
Alternate between Beer and Merlot life's pretty gud this way

[Anonymous No.16579716]

>>16538869
I have a merlot to finish off myself

[Anonymous No.16579889]

Does anyone have a good recommendation for gin?

[Anonymous No.16579897]

>>16579889
Hendricks

[Anonymous No.16579903]

>>16567301
Alcohol is overpowering in any alcoholic drink for people whose palate hasn't adjusted. This is how scotch tasters can develop extensive tasting notes instead of just going holy fuck this makes my eyes water. Drink more of something and your palate will start to pay less attention to the alcohol.

[Anonymous No.16579945]

>>16579897
Thank you, I will try it.

Trying for a gin and tonic that I don't hate.

[Anonymous No.16580545]

>>16578415
Yeah probably it’s not very authentic sangiovese, but it’s tasty and that’s all that matters. Oak, tannins, acid and fruit very balanced and well integrated, long aftertaste. The only think I didnt like was that it’s a bit too sweet. I think it can be great wine to try for some anons in this thread complaining that all wine is shit.

[Anonymous No.16580640]

>>16559631
I got a 9 month stay on Cadiz a couple of years ago. Jerez is 30 min away on train, and Sanlucar (manzanilla) is about 2 hrs on bus.
Generosos are a blessing. I actually ended up falling in love with Manzanilla and Cream, a mixture of Oloroso and Pedro Ximenez. It's a shame I can't find any here and while I can find them online cheap, shipping costs are stupidly high.
I'm probably a pleb for saying Canasta and Solear are my favorites, but I didn't have much time to explore. And there's so many options that you'll never finish trying them all.
A bit unrelated, but avoid any beer from that region, Andalucia makes great wine, but their beer is basically piss.

[Anonymous No.16580974]

>>16579945
A good tonic water is more important than the gin. You could try something like Franklin & Sons Rosemary/Black Olive or Elderflower/Cucumber.