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Just do you fucking job. Religion is fake. You just hate gay people. Your job is a baker. Bake the cakes. It is a wedding cake, you sell them, you make them. It is that fucking simple you retard.

>nooo the mean gays keep harassing me

cuz u literally started it by publicly humiliating them in your business because you are a petty childish bully

If the government actually supported gays his business would have been shut down when the gay couple's complaint was processed and we wouldn't have to hear from him again.

>> No.16535072

>>16535068
Hello, mentally ill person. Goodbye, mentally ill person.

>> No.16535073

>>16535068
Not only should fags not be allowed to get married to avoid this issue in the first place, fag behavior should once again be treated as a mental disorder

>> No.16535084

>>16535068
I know people like this exist but I refuse to believe you are making any point. You're just looking for (you)s. Reminder to sage friends

>> No.16535089

I heard his cakes taste like shit.... that's why the gays desire them so ardently.

>> No.16535093

>>16535072
religion is a mental illness

>>16535084
my point is his business would have been straight up shut down if the government actually supported gays

if gays ran the government that is what would have happened

>> No.16535099

>>16535068
>You just hate gay people
Name a single thing wrong with hating people who spread deadly viruses

>> No.16535113

>>16535099
chinese food is good

>> No.16535117

>>16535099
thought we were talking about gays, not repu*licans

>> No.16535120

Ah yes, Op is a faggot thread, join the 41% op

>> No.16535123

>>16535117
>there's a difference

straight men don't exist

everyone who isn't openly gay is actively repressing gay urges

Rethuglicans are just the worst of the kind, trying to make EVERYONE repress being gay.

Men only date women for kids. Men are not genuinely attracted to women. Men would only fuck other men if there were no stigma and surrogacy were cheap and easily accessible.

>> No.16535125

I feel like I’m on /ck/ 10 years ago. Who gives a fuck about this anymore?

Kids are now being fully indoctrinated and not wanting your kids to go to a kink pride parade or training book reading makes you the worst person imaginable. Congrats, you win. Now go fuck yourself.

>> No.16535127
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>>16535123

>> No.16535130

>>16535125
People who don't want to be treated like second class citizens because the state refuses to stop enabling petty bullies.

>> No.16535141

>>16535130
the state didn't molest you that was your father, take it up with him

>> No.16535154

>>16535141
Based.

>> No.16535157

>>16535130
>boohoo people don't like me
You don't have a right to not be bullied faggot

>> No.16535162

>>16535123
what? trump lost btw

>> No.16535169

Shit-tier bait, no one will reply to this seri-... oh.

>> No.16535170

>>16535157
I mean when I walk into a business open to the public I do.

>> No.16535173

>>16535125
behold, the mighty strawman

>> No.16535177

>>16535170
Except you literally don't

>> No.16535182

>>16535170
room temp IQ sounds pretty good right now doesn't it

>> No.16535186

>>16535170
>when I enter a private business I command the environment because freedom
I miss pre-normie 4channel

>> No.16535208

>>16535177
I have the right to access businesses open to the public without facing targeted harassment.

>> No.16535212

>guy still offered to sell them pastries, just declined specifically making a wedding cake
>mother of one of the gays told them ahead of time that the guy does not make gay wedding cakes, and they did it anyway
faggot narrative BTFO
fags seek to punish people using the government
they don't want cake, they want to force you to do things against your will and in direct violation of your constitutional rights

>> No.16535221

>>16535208
burger king can tell you to hit the pavement if you don't recite hamlet perfectly if they choose to. toddler mentality

>> No.16535222

>>16535208
No you don't

>> No.16535223

You don't have the right to harass people. Leave gay people alone and stop harassing them. Why is that so hard?

>> No.16535224

>>16535212
what part of that is using the government? don't like it, use a different baker. free market, boomer

>> No.16535227

>>16535223
Yes I do, no. Who said it was hard?

>> No.16535230

>>16535068
>If the government actually supported gays his business would have been shut down when the gay couple's complaint was processed and we wouldn't have to hear from him again.

Then any business could get shut down for turning down customers. Lets not go down that road. Do you remember that creepy fat pedo tranny who tried to get a bunch of salons shut down because women refused to do a brazillian on them?

I mean personally, I wish the cake maker made up some bullshit like they were booked up or something but they have the right to refuse service.

>> No.16535233

>>16535212
>guy still offered to sell them pastries, just declined specifically making a wedding cake

Because they came there for a wedding cake, which are usually a custom item, and he sells custom wedding cakes. If they were not a gay couple, he would have sold them a custom wedding cake, hence his behavior constitutes unlawful discrimination under Colorado law.

>mother of one of the gays told them ahead of time that the guy does not make gay wedding cakes, and they did it anyway

that is not true and of course you have no source for that claim

one of their moms recommended the bakery, they said they had no idea he was Christian.

>> No.16535237

>>16535230
If salons offer waxing services to women, they should have to offer them equitably to all women. Don't want to wax trans women? Don't offer waxing.

Don't want to sell wedding cakes to gay people? Don't sell wedding cakes.

What you want is to profit at people's expense while making certain groups into social outcasts.

>> No.16535242

>>16535212
all political actioning is orchestrated by groups of (((leftists))), you should know that by now

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>>16535237
Autogynophile exhibtionists are not women

>> No.16535254

>>16535227
>enter private property
>harass or otherwise disrespect the rules set in place by said private property by those who own said private property
>told to fuck off said private property by belligerently acting like my childish tendencies supersede any and all property rights
>AH. AHHH. AHHHHH. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! THE HECKIN FREEDOMERINOS!!! I NEED TO DO WHAT I WANT!!!!!! MY FREEDOM MEANS I DO WHAT I WANT WHERE I WANT NOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING LIBTARDS!! THAT'S WHAT FREEDOM MEANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>don't FUCKING tread on my private property!!!!!!!!!
makes sense

>> No.16535261

>>16535242
>literally no political actioning is orchestrated by (((rightoids)))
ah yes, logical, why won't the world see the truth, the right has never acted politically

>> No.16535266

>>16535254
>door that is open to the public
>private

no

If you want to run an at home business you are no longer beholden to public accommodation laws - if you want to benefit commercially from anyone being able to easily access your business - you have to actually serve the public without targeted harassment of minority groups you have personal beef with.

>> No.16535268

>>16535253
you are obligated to return

>> No.16535269

>>16535261
>pwease be patient I have autismb
it know it must be a confusing world for ya, little buddy

>> No.16535275

>>16535268
Make me

>> No.16535280

>>16535233
Shut the fuck up faggot, you remake this thread weekly and you always peddle the same bullshit. You aren't convincing anyone.

>Craig's mother, Deborah Munn, called Phillips, who advised her that Masterpiece did not make wedding cakes for the weddings of gay couples because of his religious beliefs and because Colorado did not recognize same-sex marriage at the time.
Literally from wikipedia, the most astroturfed leftist source.

He didn't refuse service, he refused specifically to make a cake for a gay wedding. They could buy any number of cakes. They could have asked for a 5-layer cake enough to serve 200 people. He is not refusing to sell to gays, he is refusing to violate his religious principles that are protected by his first-amendment rights. Your argument is predicated on a misunderstanding of the law: freedom of religion is an expressly protected right. You are not entitled to force people to do anything against their will. The court case is an attempt to force people to do things against their will, which is a violation of autonomy, freedom of association, and freedom of religion. There is no grand conspiracy to prevent gays from getting wedding cakes, but there IS an activist effort to target christian bakers and force them to give up their beliefs.

>> No.16535287

>>16535280
>>Craig's mother, Deborah Munn, called Phillips, who advised her that Masterpiece did not make wedding cakes for the weddings of gay couples because of his religious beliefs and because Colorado did not recognize same-sex marriage at the time.

yeah because she called the bakery AFTER THEY WENT THERE

>> No.16535290

>>16535266
possibly the most retarded post I've ever read on this website

>> No.16535294

>>16535290
Is his bakery OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? Yes or no? Meaning any member of the public can enter his physical storefront, during advertised open business hours, and receive service?

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>>16535233
>>16535280
BTFOOOOOO

>> No.16535300

>>16535068
the politicalization of something that is otherwise totally innocuous (cooking) nearly always leads to its downfall.
shit bait + saged

>> No.16535302

>>16535266
no

if you want to run a private business you are only beholden to public discrimination laws - if you want to discriminate based on disability or race, you can not. otherwise, if you want to shriek anyone out of your shop that isn't six foot five, wearing clown shoes, or having pink dyed hair, that is your prerogative. snowflake

>> No.16535310

He doesn't have to serve pedophiles cake. FULL STOP. Let the man live his life in peace and love like the constitution intended,

>> No.16535312

>>16535302
those laws in colorado cover race as well as sexual orientation

>>16535300
the baker is the one politicizing wedding cakes in the first place...

nobody who eats wedding cake at a wedding thinks "surely the baker endorses this union"

>> No.16535317

>>16535294
you're absolutely right, however, the right to refuse service to any individual minus explicitly due to discriminatory subgroups eg race is entirely up to the operator. dumb shit. you can open a restaurant and refuse to serve people whose name starts with a vowel, you're not entitled to recompensation when you don't make money as a result of your private business' decision

>> No.16535322

>>16535317
because peoples names starting with a vowel is not a legally protected class - under colorado law - sexual orientation is

>> No.16535332

>>16535322
>I argue literally anyone going into a "public" place is entitled to service
>no that's not how it works
>EXACTLY ANYONE NOT BELONGING TO AN ENTITLED CLASS CAN RECIEVE SERVICE
mongloid

>> No.16535340

>>16535310
this
same if you don't want to serve pedophiles (ie every republican) or sycophants (ie every republican), you have all the right to, as a private company that does not want to be treaded upon

>> No.16535354

>>16535340
one bakery chose to close their physical storefront and reorganize as an at-home business

at home businesses are not subject to public accommodations laws

Jack Phillips has chosen not to do this, so he is still subject to those laws. You have choices! Profiting at the expense of legally protected minority groups is not one of them! You can't just make people social outcasts because you need a target to bully!

>> No.16535355

I don't think anyone in this thread is arguing in good faith but I'll throw my garbage opinion onto the shitheap anyway

I'm a huge homogay fagfag and let my husband push my prostate like a button and I don't expect this or any other baker to have to make custom gay cakes for anyone. I don't find refusing to make a gay cake any more offensive than refusing to make a green cake or literally any other kind of customization. You don't commission a family portrait artist to make bara furry porn then cry discrimination when they don't accept your business.

>> No.16535370

>>16535312
yes and somehow making political posts on a board about cooking makes sense or will make anyone care
saged and >>>/pol/

>> No.16535377

>>16535237
Lets say you make wedding cakes and someone comes in, an older man in his 50s or something, he wants a wedding cake for him and his 6 year old fiancée. I know this sounds weird on 4 chan, but lets say, wild take here, you don't think grown men should marry very young children. Should you have the right to refuse?

>> No.16535384

>>16535354
what?
>own private business
>entitled to serve who you choose as you have the FREEDOM to
>republicans have a diarrhetic meltdown over this
the schizo diatribe of rightoids acting like this is treading on freedom instead of the absolute opposite is pretty composite of the actual, established laws of freedom is pretty representative of the victim complex you complete retards continue to base your identity on

>> No.16535389

>>16535377
>electric static noises intensify

>> No.16535408

>>16535377
yes because age is not a protected class

>> No.16535415

>>16535237
This post right here is how i know its a troll.

At first i just believed op was a mentally ill faggot. But even the mentally ill nut jobs are sane enough to tell the difference between offering Brazilian waxes to women and to "women" with smelly hairy testicles.

Successful b8

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>>16535408
Stupidly enough, only old age (40+ years) is a federal protected class, when people in general should not be discriminated against at any age.

>> No.16535429

>>16535408
Lets say pedos were a protected class but you still were against pedos. Would you make the cake?

>> No.16535430

>work at a steakhouse
>customer orders prime cut, high marble score
>"Oh and I'd like my steak cooked a little past well done thanks"

Are you telling me to accept this behaviour because its the right thing to do or because it's illegal not to.

>> No.16535437

>>16535429
The whole point of someone being a protected class is that their membership in a group is not itself harmful - that others targeting them is harmful.

Being gay is not a criminal act. Religious law is not the law in the United States. Move to Iran and you can bake wedding cakes for only straights to your hearts content.

>> No.16535439

>>16535173
What straw man? Reality?

>> No.16535452

>>16535437
Refusing service is not a criminal act either. The gay couple could have gone to a different cake shop.

>> No.16535459

>>16535452
It shouldn't be our burden to be outcasts because a tiny fraction of the population wants to engage in targeted harassment.

>> No.16535464

>>16535459
How is it harassment if all he did was refuse service?

>> No.16535471

>>16535437
How does it male you feel that people are discriminated again not because of their membership of their protected class but because of the content of their character; which funny enough is directly influenced by their membership of that class. Which is technically legal and therefore right. Thanks Dr Kings, living the dream.

>> No.16535476

>>16535459
>I'll punish you if you don't play with me
Grow up

>> No.16535478

>>16535464
He publicly humiliated them in the process. He knows what he is doing, he knows he is causing them emotional distress - that's intentional. That's why he has to hide behind >muh religion, cuz otherwise he is just a bully.

>> No.16535489

>>16535073
it should be criminal behavior, the punishment should be beatings.

>> No.16535521

>>16535478
The fags are the ones who made it public.

>> No.16535522

>>16535068
Private business, they can choose who they do business with. Right?

>> No.16535537

>>16535478
I read up on it a bit. You have to ask yourself, if this was a muslim baker and not a christian baker, and nothing else had changed, would there have still been a lawsuit?

>> No.16535539

>>16535521
How exactly can 2 men order a wedding cake while hiding their sexuality?

Frankly that is why this became an issue, because with a wedding cake, there is no way to hide being gay apart from lying.

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>>16535068
Sorry but just look at these guys. These are definitely a couple of shit starters.

>> No.16535545

>>16535539
>Order wedding cake
>Order two guys figurine online and then put it on said cake
As I said, the fags are the ones who made it public.

>> No.16535556

>>16535545
He asked the couple "is this cake for you guys", and they said yes, and that's when he told them he didn't serve their kind.

Again, how could they have hidden it without lying?

>> No.16535562

>>16535556
Say no, lying isn't worse than being gay.

>> No.16535585

Private business have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason

>> No.16535602

>>16535585
Cool opinion bro. Would be a shame if you tried it on and you became the recipient of a little targeted harassment.

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>BAKE THE CAKE, BIGOT!
>businesses are free to discriminate against unvaccinated people
which one is it?

>> No.16535641

>>16535478
As javascript:quote('16535537'); said, what would have happened if the baker was muslim instead of christian? You think we would be here arguin about this?

>> No.16535647

>>16535641
Don't mind that quoting fail

>> No.16535650

>>16535641
We all know who wins that fight, but I'd still pay to see it

>> No.16535657

>>16535636
covid is a hoax, being gay is real, christianity is a hoax

>>16535641
if you had a single example of a COURT saying a muslim could discrimninate in a way a christian could not - you would definitely have a point, but these laws have been enforced neutrally, and indeed, that is a requirement regarding their constitutionality

>> No.16535663

>>16535068
>Your job is a baker. Bake the cakes.
You're a man. Your job is to impregnate a woman.

>> No.16535666

yes, I do hate faggots. you dont? what are you, gay?

>> No.16535683

>>16535666
Even Satan hates the gays lol faggots btfo

>> No.16535710

Religion has nothing to do with it. We don't want to encourage homosexuality. Be a man, take responsibility, and perform your biological role in society.

>> No.16535711

>>16535585
>for any reason

Your parents must've blown some meth smoke in your face after they smashed your skull on the ground as a baby

>> No.16535718

>>16535711
Impossible. That's illegal yaknow

>> No.16535743

>>16535636
Being a nigger isn't contagious.

>> No.16535752

>>16535743
After seeing gen Z grow up, I'm not sure that's the case

>> No.16535758

The act of making a wedding cake specifically is considered art and thus cannot be forced. He was willing to provide other baked goods.

>> No.16535771

>>16535237
>If salons offer waxing services to women, they should have to offer them equitably to all women.
They do

>> No.16535772

>>16535437
most pedos arent harmful. same as gays.

>> No.16535796

>>16535743
The rate in which nigger culture infected everything and everyone would say other wise

>> No.16535809

>>16535710
>Be a man, take responsibility, and perform your biological role in society.
>say this on 4chan
lmao

>> No.16535812

>>16535809
A penis has no business being in your asshole. It doesn't even make sense.