/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.16445384]

Why is pizza so expensive?

Cheese, Sauce, and Bread are all cheap.

[Anonymous No.16445389]

it has real cocks in it

[Anonymous No.16445394]

>>16445384
inflation

[Anonymous No.16445398]

>>16445384
Because you are paying someone else to make it for you.

[Anonymous No.16445399]

>>16445398
They are paid $10 an hour and it takes 2 minutes of labor to prepare a pizza.

[Anonymous No.16445402]

>>16445399
Yeah, but they can charge whatever they want for it.

[Anonymous No.16445406]

>>16445384
Dude im in cuck California and it aint that expensive. Where the hell are you living?

[Anonymous No.16445416]

>>16445384
>>16445398
>>16445399
>>16445402
Learn the following principle of commerce: The seller charges not according to how difficult it was for him to get, he may charge according to how difficult it is for the buyer to get.
Your own oven can't make pizza for shit, and it's very annoying to buy all of the ingredients and make one from scratch yourself even if you have a pizza that can get hot enough. The fact that materials and labor cost very little never comes into the equation.

[Anonymous No.16445419]

>>16445384
>Why is pizza so expensive?
Because you'll buy it anyway, fatty.

[Anonymous No.16445463]

>>16445384
go to little Caesars. $5

[Anonymous No.16445472]

>>16445463
>lc
>$5

bros.... who's gunna tell him....

[Anonymous No.16445480]

>>16445472
oh...oh no..what the actual fuck

[Anonymous No.16445482]

>>16445384
For profit corporate business. They need to pay for the ingredients, the labor, the facility, the store management, district management, corporate management, chair board, and above and beyond all that: assure the company is "profitable"(e.g. MORE profit each quarter, otherwise the business is a Failure™ even if it is still taking in billions in net profit.)

[Anonymous No.16445490]

>>16445480
>walk into LC with $5 wanting a pizza
>one sausage pls
>that will be 6.36

That's when I knew the world was doomed.

[Anonymous No.16445499]

>>16445490
shows $7.99, just checked. this is some bullshit.

[Anonymous No.16445505]

>>16445499
my local LC closed down after going from $5 to $6 last week so I had to drive TWENTY MILES (32 kilometers) for a pizza.

[Anonymous No.16445511]

>>16445384
>Why is pizza so expensive?
because the people you saved didn't actually want to be saved, they just wanted new and fresh victims.

[Anonymous No.16445678]

>$41 for a pizza

Has Five Guys moved into the pizza market now?

[Anonymous No.16445886]

>>16445678
INFLATION

[Anonymous No.16445887]

So get some bread, cheese and sauce and make it

[Anonymous No.16445895]

>>16445384
TWU

[Anonymous No.16445972]

>>16445384
If that's Domino's, then for some reason everything is really expensive unless you use their deals. I don't know if they do that to catch people who aren't paying attention to the prices but if you do the deal for 2 medium 2 topping pizzas then it's only like $12 which isn't bad.

[Anonymous No.16446014]

>>16445406
>bro I'm in Cali, trust me it's cheap
t.person who pays 40 dollhairs for a 6" pizza

[Anonymous No.16446050]

>>16445384
>25 bucks for a 9 inch pizza
this cant be real

[Anonymous No.16446059]

>>16445416
>it's very annoying to buy all of the ingredients
>tomatoes
>flour
>cheese
>annoying and far out there ingredients

[Anonymous No.16446061]

>>16445499
>VAT
lmao

[Anonymous No.16446065]

why do you fat fucks require an entire pizza? go to sbarros and get a slice or two

[Anonymous No.16446072]

>>16446059
home ovens make for shit pizzas

[Anonymous No.16446075]

>>16446072
All you need is a pizza steel. You turn the oven to 500 degrees and let it preheat for 40 minutes. Throw the pizza on there and it'll be done in 11 minutes flat.

[Anonymous No.16446076]

>>16445499
Biden's america

[Anonymous No.16446080]

>>16445399
most of the time the employer need to earn three times the amount of what a employee costs / hour.

You have taxes, insurance, retirement funds and such. On top of that a business wants profits for their own and for their company to grow / advertise. As well as equipment cost. a 2k pizza oven takes a lot of electricity and repairs.

[Anonymous No.16446081]

>>16446075
>51 minute total
>11 minutes flat

[Anonymous No.16446098]

>>16446081
Not even a sensical shitpost. I didn't phrase my sentence in a way that could be twisted for your childish niggering to be technically correct. I stated once the pizza was on the steel it would take 11 minutes. That is correct. I did not include that pre-heat time in that number or say "you'll do the whole thing in 11 minutes". Apply for your gun loicense, take the class, buy a break action 12 gauge, and suck start it.

[Anonymous No.16446118]

>>16445384
It's called "markup"
Make it yourself

[Anonymous No.16446124]

>>16446098
you ok bud?

[Anonymous No.16446153]

>>16446075
that's a total of 51 minutes you absolute retard

[Anonymous No.16446155]

>>16446153
You people genuinely can't read can you

[Anonymous No.16446159]

>>16446124
I think the zoomer "burn" phrase is "touch grass" now so if you want to be a hip faggot nigger you need to review your lexicon and get with the times to really own me.

[Anonymous No.16446165]

>>16446159
How about you let the sharp point of a knife touch your jugular faggot.

[Anonymous No.16446168]

>>16446155
you can't. The entire point of the post that you were replying to was that it's less of a hassle to just order a pizza. Gets you a better product too.

[Anonymous No.16446172]

just make it your self for half the cost

[Anonymous No.16446210]

>>16445505
Dude you can't drive 32 kilometers for a pizza, a kilometer just a made up number
It's like saying you drove 32 fathoms, or you crossed 32 iugera on the way there
Just tell people how many miles you drove instead of larping like this

[Anonymous No.16446274]

>>16446168
It takes just as long to get a delivery pizza.

[Anonymous No.16446284]

>>16446098
>I stated once the pizza was on the steel it would take 11 minutes. That is correct.
Yeah, and no one fucking cares. The prep is 51 minutes if it's 40 minutes of preheating and 11 minutes of cooking.

[Anonymous No.16446424]

>>16445505
>$9 for a hot n ready and I have to drive over a mountain to get there.
Costco pizza is a better deal at that point

[Anonymous No.16446455]

>>16446424
3340 calories? Jesus, how big is that?

[Anonymous No.16446479]

>>16445394
>>16445398
>>16445384
> cheese
> sauce
> bread
Yeah about that
The Cheese is actually pretty fking expensive
8oz of cheese (~220g) is what you usually need for a pizza and even on a good day that'll run you at least $2.50. And thats the crappiest bargain store brand that is actually still cheese, which might have some kinda powdery anti-caking crap on it.

Anything else and you're talking 3-4 bucks or 5 bucks if you're going full fat non-skim aged mozz like you should be doing.

>>16445399
Business Loans to build the structure and own the land probably cost 5,000,000.
You're paying for the frickin building.

>>16445463
>>16445472
Order the cheap original pizza and get Extra Sauce. Itll cost 6.80 but its worth it. Practically like eating papa johns for half the price.
> problem is shitty service, nobody wants to make a custom pizza there if its the cheap original kind, and they dont know how much sauce to add so they'll probably snub you - and it'll be a lake of marnara sauce instead of like 2 dollups

[Anonymous No.16446482]

>>16445399
they are probably not selling 30 pizzas an hour

[Anonymous No.16446520]

>>16445384
I agree OP, in my general experience pizza is by FAR the most overpriced prepared food you can get versus making it at home.
>Make the sauce, dough, and cheese from scratch
>Each one is 15 minutes of active work
>In 2 hours, more than half of which is just waiting you can make enough for 5 pies
>Each pie will be less than a dollar in its totality
>With half an hour of active labor per pie when you factor in rolling it out and assembling
>Pizza freezes incredibly well at all stages, you can freeze the individual ingredients to assemble later, or slices to reheat in the oven.
Like seriously fuck you obviously will save money making anything from scratch but homemade pizza may as well be poverty food.

[Anonymous No.16446530]

>>16446455
The cheese stuffed crust really pumps up the calories.

[Anonymous No.16446537]

>>16445384
are those Canadian dollars?

[Anonymous No.16446544]

An extra large from the ma and pa pizzeria close by is 12.99

[Anonymous No.16446595]

everything is leveraged with debt, so prices have to accomodate the price of debt

[Anonymous No.16446652]

>>16445406
You probably eat at chain restaurants and fast food. A custom x large pizza is still $30-40+ in California. The solution? But cheap pizza or make it yourself. I bought a 40 dollar nacho cheeseburger pizza with my friends and then we all took a bunch of psychedelic mushrooms. The pizza got there right when the shrooms were kicking in, and even through my euphoric daze, I could still tell that $40 for a single pizza is a giant mistake. Also no one wanted to eat it because of the poisonous drugs in our bodies. So we just didn't even eat it. It felt slippery in my mouth. Anyway, $40 for picrel is a deal. Do they still make these? I think the place in my town closed down. And theirs was only 1/2 or 1/3 of that size.

[Anonymous No.16446660]

maybe pizza is expensive where you live, i can get a 40cm for 11 dollars and it has a good amount of toppings

[Anonymous No.16446721]

>>16446455
Presumably the butter on the crust also doesn't help. I should check how much a large dominos is, I sometimes get one of those and it lasts all day

[Anonymous No.16446728]

>>16446424
>EXTRAMOSTBESTEST
I couldn't say that word out loud to another human being to order the fuckin thing. Just on God Damned principle. Fuck all art/design/ad students for ruining everything.

[Anonymous No.16446733]

>>16446520
>most overpriced prepared food
Do the math on chicken wings and get back to me.

[Anonymous No.16446752]

>>16445384
Lmaoing @ americans

>>16446520
Basically this but making pizza at home requires planning ahead at least 2-3 hours which most people can't/won't, me included. I only started making homemade pizza more often since the chink flu made working from home a possibility.

[Anonymous No.16446756]

>>16446728
have sex

[Anonymous No.16446759]

>>16446652
never expect to eat much more than light fruit on psychadelics, newbie. also, don't drugpost on ck, it's a blue board. also, you should've put the shrooms ON the pizza you fuckin idiot, where they belong.

[Anonymous No.16446786]

>>16446759
All true

[Anonymous No.16446808]

>>16445384
Cheap frozen pizzas go as low as $2.50 depending on where you shop and even the "higher end" ones go for like $8-9. You can also get a 16 inch cheese pizza at Aldi for $5.

[Anonymous No.16446821]

I'm moving to Arkansas to buy a $100k home and a $15k oven, farming an acre of tomatoes and raising 10 dairy cows while I teach myself how to make mozzarella so I can finally have pizza for free at my house. I will import the flour from italy though.

[Anonymous No.16446878]

>>16445384
The smallest pizza is about 80% more expensive by pizza area than the largest one. What a scam.

[Anonymous No.16446954]

>>16446878
this guy explains it
>>16445416

[Anonymous No.16446975]

>>16446878
its called bulk discount, retard

[Anonymous No.16446990]

>>16446759
>also, don't drugpost on ck, it's a blue board.
god you're such a reddit faggot

[Anonymous No.16447151]

>>16445384
red baron 3.79

no faggy pizza you can buy anywhere is better than a home cooked digiornia, freschetta, or red baron. period.

[Anonymous No.16447183]

>>16445384
Guys why are Rolex watches so expensive?

Metal, glass, and steel is all cheep.

[Anonymous No.16447184]

>>16446274
What bumfuck location do you live where it takes an hour to get a delivery of pizza?

[Anonymous No.16447203]

>>16447183
rolex watches aren't expensive because of the constituent components, and pizza isn't expensive at all.

worthless, failed attempt at making a comparison

[Anonymous No.16447312]

>>16445399
Yes, and you're paying for the convenience of not having to do that yourself.

[Anonymous No.16447712]

>>16445384
Rent going up
Price of ingredients going up
Wages are inevitably going up(if not already)
For most businesses, rent is the biggest expense.

[Anonymous No.16447715]

>>16445384
Is this Canada prices?
At my favorite local pizza place, I can get a 14" supreme pizza for $20 after the delivery charge.

[Anonymous No.16447734]

>>16445384
it's not? That looks excessively expensive. Here you could easily get a "large" pizza for that $12 price tag.

[Anonymous No.16447802]

There's a chain here in Quebec that does a medium pepperoni for 9.49 (through online order only) and the joint closes at 3 during the weekends. Small, large and sides prices are crazy though.The profit margin to make pizza is really high though, they probably ship the medium pizza at profit anyway and upsell the rest.

[Anonymous No.16447863]

>>16446752
Big usa please guiseppe

[Anonymous No.16447929]

>>16445384
Just order from Dominos if you are poor. Even in fucking Canada its dirt cheap.

[Anonymous No.16447975]

>>16446728
Lol same. I generally just say "the extra"

[Anonymous No.16448046]

>>16445505
So you wasted more gas just so you wouldn't pay more for pizza?

[Anonymous No.16448058]

>>16445505
Ausfag here
30k's is just down the fukken road
are you that much of a fucking wuss that a 15min drive has you complaining?
most of us cunts drive 2 hours to fukken work.
fucking yanks man, lmao

[Anonymous No.16448061]

>>16445972
cant be dominoes. they only have 2 sizes (Large and X-Large) and their large pizzas are $5 pickup.

[Anonymous No.16448067]

>>16446284
>turn on oven 40min before you wanna make pizza
>takes 3 seconds to do
>go back to playing video games until it's ready
i mean you're the dumbcunt just standing there for 40min

[Anonymous No.16448090]

>>16448067
>get on train, takes 5 mins from entry to ticket taker checking ticket
>sleep 10 hours from Paris to Berlin
>wake up, 5 minutes to depart train and get to the gate
>"wow this trip only took 10 minutes!"
fucking retard nigger

[Anonymous No.16448094]

>>16446210

based retard

[Anonymous No.16448121]

>>16446479
>thinking you can beat papa johns for value
In Papa John's, pizza authorities were not burdened by respect for the dough or any need to consider civilian rules regarding cooking. The ovens were filled with as many pizzas as could be fit into them. For instance, the men in the Sonderkommandos were instructed to combine the orders of large pizzas, skeletal ‘Muselmänner,’ and small pizzas. This was done to cook the most pizzas in the least amount of time; they put the pizzas in the ovens continuously. The result was very high efficiency: very little fuel was needed to keep the process going for hours or days. Testimony suggests that the ovens were used continuously. Henryk Mandelbaum, a Sonderkommando at papa john's, testified as such: “. . . the kitchen [worked] full steam and each shift stayed there until the next chef came to work.”

Ever since Papa John was ousted as CEO, pizza companies around the world have never been able to cook as many pizzas as fast or as cheaply as he supposedly did. His pizzas were so delicious, in fact, that no crusts were ever found; the customers devoured every last crumb.

[Anonymous No.16448122]

>>16445384
The area of the $40.90 pizza is 47.12 square units.
The area of the $11.90 pizza is 18.85 square units.
Area of 3 6 unit pizzas is 56.55 square units.
The cost of 3 6 unit pizzas is $35.7.
just get 3 small ones if ur hungry.

[Anonymous No.16448145]

>>16448122
the XL pizza is 6.25 times the size of the small pizza, for less than 4x the price.

I'm not sure what wonky math you did, but it's wrong.

[Anonymous No.16448157]

>>16448090
>Ride train for 10 hours
>read for 8 hours
>18 mam-hours accomplished

Fucking timecube

[Anonymous No.16448164]

>>16448121

[Anonymous No.16448212]

>>16445384
then make your own fat fuck

[Anonymous No.16448920]

>>16445384
>6 inch pizza is 12 fucking dollars
this reads like they're trying to catch suckers who are too lazy to look through the deals

[Anonymous No.16449246]

>>16448121

[Anonymous No.16449279]

yeah cheese sauce and bread are all cheap but have you seen Papa's house

[Anonymous No.16449288]

>>16445384
A large one topping is $16.50 at my favorite local place, where the fuck are you looking?

[Anonymous No.16449295]

>>16446072
a poor craftsman blames his tools.

[Anonymous No.16449304]

Quite literally because you'll buy it anyway.

I worked at a pizza joint during college, and I saw firsthand just how shyster the prices were. We'd get prepackaged flour, which in turn would give us roughly 25 LARGE skins. That single bag cost 2 dollars. The cheese all came in boxes, and all we did was run it through the machine. 50 pounds for 50 dollars. The most expensive item for what you get, was the bacon and canadian bacon, both being around 50 bucks each. Sauce was mixed and thrown into a can for use later the next day, and we got nearly an entire week's worth out of it. Between the tomato paste and spice blend, shit cost maybe 25 bucks.

[Anonymous No.16449333]

>>16448121
Papa Johns number 1

[Anonymous No.16449858]

>>16447183
Aren't most of them gold?

[Anonymous No.16449880]

>>16449304

tomato sauce gets better with age fresh tomato sauce doesnt taste as good as stuff thats been sitting and marinating in its own juices for a few days

[Anonymous No.16449910]

>>16445384
Because every business will sell food at at least a four hundred percent mark-up to pay for overheads and still get enough profit to make it worth being in the food shitdustry

[Anonymous No.16449945]

>>16445384
Same reason everything is expensive: because labor and rent are expensive.

[Anonymous No.16449947]

>>16448058
>bragging about how his country is shit
you are a faggot.

[Anonymous No.16449979]

>>16445398
> because you're paying someone to hire a slave wage labor to make it for you.

ftfy

[Anonymous No.16450005]

>linear change in price
>for a quadratic change in surface area/ingredients
you're getting the long end of the stick desu

[Anonymous No.16450012]

>>16450005
>linear
>quadratic
shut up poindexter who the fuck even knows what this means

[Anonymous No.16450016]

>>16449979
Not really slavery if we all voluntarily pay for and participate in it, is it, high schooler?

[Anonymous No.16450019]

>>16445499
>>16445490
>>16445472
my local LC is still 5$

[Anonymous No.16450034]

>>16450012
using OP's picture as an example it means if you go from a $24.90 9 inch pizza to a $32.90 pizza, you get 1.8 times more shit on your pizza for only 1.3 times more money

if you go from the $24.90 9 inch pizza to the $40.90 15 inch pizza, you get 2.8 times more shit on your pizza for only 1.6 times more money

[Anonymous No.16450040]

>>16450034
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.16450062]

>>16450040
here's a helpful graph with annotations

[Anonymous No.16450086]

>>16450062
here is the ratio of pizza ingredient quantity versus pizza price
as we can see it's asymptotically positive linear which is good for us and bad for pizza companies since it means we fuck them out of their money so long has this line is positive and non-constant

[Anonymous No.16450090]

>>16450062
>>16450086
get a load of this fucking math nerd lmao

[Anonymous No.16450108]

>>16448090
yeah thats basically how passive cooking works you sped

[Anonymous No.16450111]

>>16450086
unfortunately, as the ratio is linear, if we take its derivative, we find that it is asymptotically constant. This means that while we do still get more shit per dollar, how much more shit per dollar is going to be roughly the same no matter how big a pizza we get.

as an interesting note, the limit of the derivative of the ratio is approximately 1.1780972451 meaning you get roughly 1.1780972451 times more shit per dollar the bigger the pizza you get

with that being said, finding the intersection of the two graphs, we can see that our best option is to buy a 1.233 inch pizza to fuck them over as efficiently as possible before diminishing returns kick in

[Anonymous No.16450117]

>>16449279
>unthinkable luxury
>mcmansion
amerifats

[Anonymous No.16450128]

>>16445384
pizza has one of the highest markups next to probably coffee

[Anonymous No.16450226]

so much seething ITT like it's just fucking pizza lol
>have friends over
>forgot to preheat the old pizza stone
>bring out the hdmi cable
>start torrenting latest netflick
>have to wait an hour for dough to rise anyway
>turn around and friends are gone
say la vay

[Anonymous No.16450252]

>>16450128
guess which one requires expensive machinery that you can't get at home?

[Anonymous No.16450330]

>>16445384
Pizza restaurant employee here: cheese (decent cheese at least) is definitely not cheap. It's by far our biggest food cost.

[Anonymous No.16450382]

local supermarket sells 19 inch pizzas for nine bucks, fresh. they're actually pretty good, at least in my family's opinion.

[Anonymous No.16450618]

>>16450034
Here's a secret: you pay 1.3 times the money for a pizza that's stretched 1.8 times thinner. The same amount of ingredients is in both pizza

[Anonymous No.16450626]

>>16445416
I can buy roughly 6 high quality pizzas from a super market that cost the price of 1 dominos pizza and they would take about 30 minutes to cook all of them plus the 15 to pre heat an oven which is roughly the same amount of time for a delivery to arrive. Also I can stockpile them in my freezer. Also I could just buy fresh, skip the dough making and buy a pre made base for about a 3rd of the price.

Takeout pizza is such a meme. At least order something cheap like a kebab or curry.

[Anonymous No.16450669]

>>16446075
Why only 500? I do mine around 530 and it takes 6-7 mins, and I don't even let it preheat that long

[Anonymous No.16450679]

italians are basically jews

[Anonymous No.16450689]

>>16450252
The price of a pizza steel is about the same as a cheap burr grinder and an aeropress.

[Anonymous No.16450702]

>>16450689
Yes and the results you get with them are what you pay for.

[Anonymous No.16450741]

>>16450702
Neither requires expensive machinery to produce a better product than you will get from a mid tier pizza shop or cafe.

[Anonymous No.16450752]

>>16448061
>cant be dominoes. they only have 2 sizes (Large and X-Large)
It's a lot cheaper as long as you actually select a coupon deal during the ordering, but if you don't that's when the prices go way up like in the OP.

[Anonymous No.16450896]

>>16449880
Yeah, I was just running off what I learned from working there. I wasn't saying it as if I was disgusted by it or anything.

[Anonymous No.16450941]

>>16445384
so they can make money off of morons who don't know how to use coupons

[Anonymous No.16452126]

>>16446728
i do. but i make them say it
"whats the one with the extra pepperoni?"

[Anonymous No.16452136]

>>16450117
>it NEEDS to be 400 years old, still have razorblade slots in the bathroom mirrors and be absolutely awful to maintain
europeans. real nigga understand being able to kick down a wall because you want your living room to connect to the second kitchen is kino shit

[Anonymous No.16452357]

>>16450941
>thinking those coupons mean they are selling at a loss

[Anonymous No.16453563]

>>16445399
>They are paid $10 an hour and it takes 2 minutes of labor to prepare a pizza.
wherever you got that menu from probably pays $22/hr to make those pizzas .... still a really high price, methinks

[Anonymous No.16453573]

>>16446075
could you preheat the steel above 500 using the stove?

[Anonymous No.16453590]

i was finding 18in cheese pizzas for $13-18 all over the rural areas outside nyc, pa and ohio and once it got to like iowa, and shit, i would see generic signs for gas station looking 7.99 and 5.99 large pizzas... i shoulda at least tried one.

i saw printed piece of white paper posted on the menu that read
>9 1/2 lb 18in pizza
>$27.50
in rural south dakota and a mom and pop stop
i didnt buy it :(
i ate canned soup the next three days thinking about taht pizza

[Anonymous No.16453597]

>>16445384
Make it yourself then if it is so cheap where you live.
Here it is quite expensive to make a homemade pepperoni. If I make the bread myself it will save some cost with the expense of time and labor. Cheese is expensive. Pepperoni is expensive. And my oven is shit and won’t cook it properly anyways. I will happily pay the 4 dollars for someone else to make the pizza for me. These companies buy the ingredients in bulk so it is cheaper for them, and cheaper for me.

[Anonymous No.16453607]

>>16449979
Having guaranteed income with guaranteed benefits without any risk whatsoever is great. The government forces companies to take care of me and give me a minimum of 20 bucks an hour, and forces them to pay me even if I am sick or even if I have a baby. If these companies didn’t exist to give me an easy income, I would have to make my own business which has NO guaranteed benefits and NO guaranteed minimum wage and I would probably lose everything because I’m dumb lol.

[Anonymous No.16454151]

>>16446075
>Turn on broiler/grill
>Steel preheats in about 15 minutes

[Anonymous No.16454161]

>>16450062
now calculate the enclosed area of the graphs

[Anonymous No.16454199]

>>16445499
>commiefornia
>jackup prices
No shit sherlock

[Anonymous No.16454219]

>>16445384

A typical 14'' NY style pizza is about 380g as a dough ball. Let's assume a recipe that includes flour, water, instant dry yeast, salt, and olive oil.

Flour: King Arthur Lancelot Hi-Gluten bread flour is $24.00 per 50 lb bag retail
Water: Tap water can be used, not going to calculate this but let's just assume it adds like 2 cents
Salt: A container of decent sea salt retails for $10 per 750 gram container
Yeast: Fleischmann's bread machine instant dry yeast retails for about $6.00 per 113g (4 oz) bottle
Olive Oil: Filippo Berio light olive oil 750 ml can be had for around $20 retail

All in all, your ingredients for the dough cost $60 retail for bulk amounts, but you can make a shitload of pizzas for that $60.00. Let's say you buy a #10 can (~2900 ml) of full red and don't do anything else to it for simplicity's sake - those are about $8.00 on the restaurant depot. Let's also say you're nuts about your pizza cheese and you want something pizzerias use so you're acquiring some Grande east coast blend from a cash and carry for about $25.00 for a 5lb bag.

All in all full ingredients to make cheese pizzas are about $93.00

Now, let's do the math on these. A 14'' dough ball @ 61% hydration, .25% IDY, 2.5% salt, and 3% olive oil comes out to 230g of flour, almost 6g of salt, 7g oil, and .5g of IDY.

With that size bag of bread flour, you could make 98 dough balls. In flour, it would cost you 25 cents per dough ball.
With that sized salt, you could make 125 dough balls, at 8 cents per dough ball.
With that sized IDY, it's 226 pizzas and 2 cents per dough ball
With that sized oil, its roughly 107 pizzas worth at 18 cents per dough ball.

The average 14 inch pizza takes 6 to 8 oz of cheese, ~7 oz of sauce (~226g and 198g respectively)

2268g in a bag of that cheese, 2900ml-> ~2900g in the pizza sauce.

That's 10 pizzas per bag of cheese at $2.50 per bag, and 14 pizzas per can at 0.57c per pizza.

Total per pizza: ~$3.62 per cheese pizza ingredients only

[Anonymous No.16454229]

>>16450117
>>unthinkable luxury
I’d say so. He has a 20 car underground garage, he has a fucking giant eagle statue as soon as you enter the front door. Look up pictures of his house. If this is some blasé kind of home, I’d really love to know how you are living.

[Anonymous No.16454239]

>>16454219
Now let's talk about equipment that's mandatory to do this at home and do it well. Let's say we're sticking with NY style and not frying a pan pizza, etc. so we're going to need some sort of pizza stone or steel. We're also not going to cheap out so we'll buy retail a decent pizza steel. A good one off amazon that fits 14'' pizzas costs about $80.00

Fortunately, you pay that once and it's a giant hunk of steel so it's pretty much good forever. Let's assume you also buy a peel to launch the pizzas easier, a suitable wooden one that's 16 inches off amazon is $25.00

So let's say your local Dominos or whatever sells 14'' pizzas for $10.00, you're able to do it for $3.62 per pizza (and that's assuming you have no spoiling/waste with your cheese, etc. - which in my experience is true, the cheese I mentioned lasts me a month at a time easily, and that's enough time to get the 10 pizzas per bag out of it since I make pizza for my family dinners. Anyway, let's say making it at home you're saving roughly $6.38 per pizza. In order to pay off the steel and pizza peel you would have to make just 17 pizzas at home. Less than that if you're factoring in delivery fees if you don't pick your pizzas up yourself from a place like Dominos.

Now let's say you eat a pizza every two weeks. It's probably a lot more frequent for people around here but I'll go conservatively. that's 26 pizzas per year. If you made them yourselves, spoiling of cheese and sauce notwithstanding (you can freeze them anyway but it lowers the quality of the end product slightly), after having paid off your steel and peel year one you would still save at least $57.00 the first year, and $165.00 every year after that. The more you make, the more you save vs. actually going to a pizza place. These are just RETAIL prices mind you, everything I've quoted you can find online. Pizza shops pay wholesale. They definitely have a good margin, AND the pizza they sell you is about 1/900th as good as at home.

[Anonymous No.16454265]

>>16454239
To answer the original question however, pizza from a restaurant is expensive because of their overhead. It is a myth that you need to have a restaurant grade pizza oven to make good pizza, Dominos ovens fire between 450 and 500F, and most home ovens can hit 550 as a maximum. Sure it's not a 90 second bake in a wood or coal fired oven, but not all good pizza is made like that, in fact the overwhelming majority of NY style pizzas, even ones that win awards come out of some gas fired oven between 450 and 500 degrees F.

Their pizzas are expensive because of overhead and labor. They have to lease their store spaces, pay bills on utilities. They have to advertise their products, they have to pay a bunch of foreigners and high schoolers to make them. They have to either buy the ingredients or operate a vertically integrated production facility that churns them out, both of which are expensive propositions. They have to pay to maintain a shipping and supply chain, and every other little detail of a business that raises costs.

Don't like it? There's a simple solution - make it yourself at home. Acquire the ingredients and the basic equipment needed, learn the techniques and cut out ever needing to or wanting to go to a pizza restaurant ever again. It's what I did this past year because I didn't feel like going through the hassle of COVID protocols at restaurants, and now I actually make a better pizza than any of my local shops, and for far cheaper. Laziness is what prevents this. Making 4 dough balls and fermenting them takes 30 minutes, then perhaps 2 days in the fridge for a good cold ferment. Plan in advance. The night of the bake, you want to let the dough rest on the counter to warm to room temp, and heat you pizza steel - both take an hour. 1 hour prior to dinner, go in the kitchen, turn on the oven and take out the dough. Prep takes 5 minutes, bake takes perhaps 7 at 550F. It's not that hard, just harder than ordering pizza on a whim.

[Anonymous No.16454601]

>>16445399
Yes anon, as soon as they are done with your second dinner, they go home. There is no prep and cleanup work for them. Idiot.

[Anonymous No.16454810]

>>16446210
god this post reeks of based

[Anonymous No.16454821]

>>16445384
>buying from a chain
If you have a local pizzeria it's going to be much less expensive. You're paying 40.90 for your Xtra large when I can get a 32 piece pizza for 40.30 canuck bucks and it's legitimately one of the best pizzas in the entire world with a 1st place at the world pizza expo.

[Anonymous No.16454835]

>>16447183
>Not understanding the concept of Veblen goods
Marketing 101, anon.

[Anonymous No.16454838]

>>16453573
You can go as hit as your oven goes probably it will just cook a lot faster

[Anonymous No.16455430]

>>16454838
most home ovens stay under 550 which is 100 degrees hotter than some major chains fire their pizzas so it's more than enough, but I don't think a lot of normies realize it

[Anonymous No.16455463]

Sounds like a (You) problem muttoid, here a large pizza ranges from 3€ for a margherita to 5-5.50€ for the most fancy ones.

[Anonymous No.16455494]

>>16445399
than make your fucking pizza nigga holly shit

[Anonymous No.16455532]

>>16446728
You come off like a sperg but your point is valid, it seems like something a spastic hipster designed.

[Anonymous No.16455658]

>>16445384
make it yourself you lazy shit

[Anonymous No.16456527]

>>16445406
Australia at a guess

[Anonymous No.16457397]

>>16450034
>>16450062
>>16450086
>>16450111
anon, can you teach me calculus

[Anonymous No.16458719]

>>16445384
Why are cars so expensive? Metal, glass and plastic are all cheap

[Anonymous No.16458729]

Take the tortilla pizza pill.

[Anonymous No.16458755]

>>16445384
>Why is pizza so expensive?
its some of the cheapest food. I can get 4 large pizza for 20 bucks.

[Anonymous No.16459142]

>he doesnt import tap water from nyc

[Anonymous No.16459145]

>>16445384
because it takes time and effort for a fatty like you to cook it

[Anonymous No.16459146]

speaking of cheap pizza is this shit at least decent?

[Anonymous No.16459174]

Hungry Howie's

[Anonymous No.16459246]

>>16448058
as an Australian, Australia needs a fucking range ban to keep these retard caricatures off of this site. I'll take the hit. Nuke us all to hell

[Anonymous No.16459694]

>>16445416
>Your own oven can't make pizza for shit,
You can if you know what you're doing and experiment a little. I just made a banging chicken bacon ranch. "hot enough" shit seems like a meme to me, it gets hot enough to come out restaurant quality. Maybe it takes a little longer to cook but goddamn people are lazy

[Anonymous No.16460109]

>>16459246

[Anonymous No.16460151]

>>16445384
Maybe its the craftsmanship in making a really good pizza that adds to the cost.

Just went to the midnight sun corner and ordered an expensive cappriciosa and goddamn it was so good and fresh and just amazing :D

But i don't eat pizza daily, maybe once or at most twice a month.

[Anonymous No.16460155]

>>16459694
Most people have a grill and as long as you don't blast it to fuck with propane and watch it closely you can make really good pizza on the grill.

[Anonymous No.16460226]

>>16445384
Ok so if it’s cheap make it yourself you fucking loser >>16445394

[Anonymous No.16460762]

>>16445384
Do americans really pay 41$ (plus tax and tip lol) for a pizza?

[Anonymous No.16460805]

>>16445384
It's so expensive because m************ who own the restaurant want to squeeze you for as much as you possibly can as they pay their workers as little as they can. Pizza is f****** cheap but as someone who used to work as Domino's I can tell you that the bosses are m************ who deserve to be pulled on the back of a truck with chains.

[Anonymous No.16461754]

Just ordered some 'za from the 'jon

Any wagies here? How often does someone have to order for you to notice them and remark about them in your head? I'm doing every 2-3 weeks.

[Anonymous No.16461795]

>>16448090
Do you actually cook?

[Anonymous No.16461849]

Delivery pizza really isn't expensive. Pizza itself is expensive because it's more food than your mcchicken+fries. I can last 3 days off a big pizza.

[Anonymous No.16461865]

>>16450226
>turn around and friends are gone
they were just a figment of your imagination

[Anonymous No.16462215]

>>16459146
it's above average and if it's ~$5 then it's a decent deal

[Anonymous No.16462236]

>>16446098
What the fuck are you talking about? It takes 5-6 minutes to cook a pizza on a steel at 500-550F

[Anonymous No.16462237]

>>16461754
Once every 2 weeks is about normal. If it's weekly you'll get to the point that theyll have your order rang up for you when you walk into the store.

[Anonymous No.16462299]

>>16454265
>>16454239
>>16454219
Ty info genius anon.

[Anonymous No.16462335]

>>16460109
kek based

[Anonymous No.16462462]

>>16447712
>Wages are inevitably going up(if not already)
not so fast bucko
wages can stay the same for a few more decades
they'll learn to adapt

[Anonymous No.16462956]

In the UK Domino's are ridiculously priced, they've somehow managed to market takeaway pizza as somehow worth mid market+ prices. I can unironically go and have a sit down meal in a restaurant for less than a takeaway pizza, it's absurd.

[Anonymous No.16462980]

>>16445384
Franchise licenses cost a whole lot of money. As a rule of thumb, if a product is mass advertised about 50% of revenue goes into advertisement. Assuming about 30% for distribution, equipment and capital costs, that would leave abut 20% for the actual product. Oh wait, we have to take some of that, we need to make some profits right?

Now why you would buy and eat a mass advertised food product from a franchise company I have no idea.

[Anonymous No.16463476]

>>16462462
No, they can't.

[Anonymous No.16463484]

>>16462956
Meanwhile Papajohns has been running that Extra large for £11 promo for months

[Anonymous No.16463526]

>>16445384
Because you buy it like a retard instead of making it yourself.

[Anonymous No.16464281]

>>16459146
why is ed selling pizza?

[Anonymous No.16464304]

Last night I got a 12 inch pizza with 3 toppings, onion rings, fries and 2 cans for £12

Good deal

[Anonymous No.16464402]

>>16445384
Dear Lord, 50USD is a quarter of the minimum wage where I live. That pizza would cost a week's paycheck working 9-5 lmao

[Anonymous No.16464437]

>>16445499
$5.55 in LA

WDYM

[Anonymous No.16464447]

>>16445384
I get XL pizza for $14 cad

[Anonymous No.16464448]

Damn, you guys got some batshit crazy prices. In Pooland a 12 inch pepperoni pizza costs approx. $8.

[Anonymous No.16464456]

>>16445384
in my country you can get a ~12 inch pizza for 4 bucks

[Anonymous No.16464467]

>>16445394
md8aa

[Anonymous No.16464547]

>>16445384
>Why is pizza so expensive?
No my problem, i make my own pie

[Anonymous No.16464609]

>>16449288
that's still a lot of money

[Anonymous No.16464615]

>>16464456
how much are hookers in your country?