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/tea/
This thread is for discussing tea, teaware, tisanes, and other herbal infusions.

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>> No.16387978
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16387978

>>16387972
The brits don't know how to make tea edition

>> No.16388015

>>16387972
Drinking some duckshit. tastes peachy with hints of sage

>> No.16388164

shit, i need help
>google "local tea shops"
>50 million bubble tea storefronts show up
>can't buy loose leaf tea at any of them

i know there's at least one of those teavana/david's tea places in the mall near me, but that doesn't even show up aye aye aye

>> No.16388171

>drink normal amounts of tea each day (4-5 grams gong fu)
>this is enough to be very tired by the end of the day due to the lack of caffeine
>if I skip a single day of drinking tea I get significant withdrawal symptoms including headaches
Guess I'm going to have to drink tea way less often, this sucks.

>> No.16388199

fuck supporting 'local businesses'
what have they ever done for me

>> No.16388542

>>16388164
Chinese grocer it is

>> No.16388571

>>16388164
I have one near me but it's mostly blended shit and "medicinal tea". I tried to go to an Asian grocery store but it was like the Asian equivalent of that. They didn't even have any sea dyke or nothing.

>> No.16388745

>>16388164
the only tea shop in my city mostly sells flavored teas because they like to larp as french people

>> No.16388789

I have no idea what i'm looking for in a pu-erh

Do i just base my purchase off the description, or are there some keywords i should focus on? Gotta order online because there's nowhere around me that sells loose leaf pu-erh, so I can't try this stuff out first.

>> No.16388913

>>16388789
you buy like 3 or 5 different cakes that sound somewhat different and spread out/narrow down from there.
It's kinda like whiskey, there's definitely a type you'll like but most people aren't experts and you'll mostly get introduced to it through shady hear-say and figure out what you like just through trial and error

>> No.16388940

>>16388171
How does this happen to people? Caffeine doesn't affect me at all. I usually drink coffee every day and sometimes a gongfu as well but if I skip one or the other or both it doesn't affect me at all.

>> No.16388963

>>16388789
Well you can order samples to try first, plenty of vendors offer them. Definitely sample before you get the whole cake (unless it's just a mini cake) wherever possible. If you don't know what you like, I'd suggest trying a variety of different categories of puerh. The major distinction is sheng (raw) and shou (ripe) puerh, the former of which can also be divided by age. At least try a fresh (<3 years old) sheng, an aged (>15 years) sheng, and a couple shou. There's many other subcategorizations like harvest region and dry vs. wet storage that are worth considering but that should give you the broad strokes. You can read the descriptions to see what sounds appealing, but how they describe the taste may be hit or miss. It is most helpful if you know how that tea's type generally tastes.

>> No.16388994

Should I buy a teapot or a set of Sennheiser HD6XX

>> No.16389015

What’s the best supermarket tea for adding milk to?

>> No.16389173

>>16388994
Whats your signal chain?

>> No.16389182

>>16389173
My motherboard's 3.5mm jack..................

>> No.16389442

How much tea am I supposed to use

>> No.16389501

Can I get a cup of your favorite tea?

>> No.16389522

Chilled matcha. Matcha powder, water, single sachet of stevia, L-theanine powder, and a dash of electrolytes I had on hand. Shaken briefly by hand, and placed in my freezer for an hour. Smooth and mild. I really don't know why this isn't more popular considering how convenient and pleasant it can be to mix cheap matcha with cold beverages.

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Chilled matcha. Matcha powder, water, single sachet of stevia, L-theanine powder, and a dash of electrolytes I had on hand. Shaken briefly by hand, and placed in my freezer for an hour. Smooth and mild. I really don't know why this isn't more popular considering how convenient and pleasant it can be to mix cheap matcha with cold beverages.

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O-cha order just landed! That's my sencha & gyokuro sorted til next year :)

>> No.16390223

>>16389182
Def a teapot then. Be prepared to drop ~200 on a schiit stack when you order headphones. I'm running some heavily modded k7xxs through a vali2 modi3 stack. Bliss.

>> No.16390228

>>16387978
oatmilk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cow milk > almond milk > sheepmilk
when it comes to milktea.

>> No.16390260

>>16388789
Buying puerh is kind of tricky, but it's not too bad once you get the hang of it. You want to buy based on the factory names and start out with the big popular ones, dayi/taetea , xiaguan, haiwan, etc
Here are some safe buys for tying ripe
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/taetea-2019-chinese-puer-tea-shu-puer-7452-chi-tse-beeng-1901-ripe-puerh-357g-p0595.html
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/taetea-yunnan-puer-tuo-tea-2018-v93-shu-puer-tuocha-100g-p0592.html
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/mengku-rongshi-2014-mu-ye-chun-3-years-aged-ripe-pu-erh-tea-brick-100g-p0375.html
Here is some looseleaf if you really insisit on it but you should just embrace the cakes, you can just stab them apart with a butter knife or screwdriver
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/xiaguan-2016-yr-shou-puerh-first-grade-loose-ripe-puer-te-100-gr-box-p0401.html
Literally just pick one or two based on what packaging you like the most and enjoy

>> No.16390261

>>16387978
I won't lie, nothing hits quite like a strong breakfast blend and a splash of milk

>> No.16390263

>>16389731
Sexy anon
pls post some notes on your favorites once you get a chance to try a few

>> No.16390265
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Gongfuaggots vs the grandpa style brewing chads

>> No.16390290

>>16390265
>>16390265
Light oolongs like that are the only teas that have consistently brewed like shit for me grampa style. You have to use cooler water and if you use water that is even a few degrees too cool the leaves never sink.

>> No.16390641

For me it's the Dong Ding

>> No.16390748

>>16388199
You are an idiot, and do not understand even the most basic of economic principles.

>> No.16390765

>>16390260
Once you have a few cakes what do you usually do? Break some off as you need it? Break the whole cake apart and store it in a container? Should the container be air tight or breathable? Etc. I have a few cakes but I haven’t tried any of them yet because I’m not sure of the best way to use them

>> No.16390849

>>16390765
i just break off what i need and store them in their paper wrappers in a drawer, its ~60% humidity all year round here so there's no worry about the cakes drying out

>> No.16390865

>>16390765
Keep them in sealed ziploc bags, maybe put all the individual bagged cakes in a big turkey bag (you can find them at the grocery store with the sandwich baggies)
How you handle them is down to personal preference, you can break up about 1/4 of a cake at a time and just keep it in a ziploc bag along with the cake.
Or you can just break a pice off when you want to brew some, that's what i typically do.
If you want to get fancy you can get some tea storage jars and break a whole cake up and keep it in a jar but i think that's overkill unless you are trying to air out an stinky tea.

>> No.16390883

For me it's Barry's Irish Breakfast

>> No.16390889

>>16390883
>barrys instead of builders
Oh shit nigger what are you doing?

>> No.16390928

>>16390889
I've never had it but I'll give it a try.
Im guessing it's just a better PG tips?

>> No.16391095

>>16390928
It's a tea for builders m8

>> No.16391101

it's been so hot and humid here these past weeks that i've been burning through almost all my various green tea reserves preparing cold brews

>> No.16391107

>>16391101
Dis you discover and good cold brewing tricks? What kind of ratios of tea to water have you been using? What kinds of tea?
I really need to fill out the pastebin section so anything you can share would be helpful.

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>>16391107
i have this glass thing (don't know the english word, sorry) with a built-in filter. usually take 3-4 tea spoons of green tea, fill it with 1 l of cold water and let it sit in the fridge for 3-7 hours (depending on how patient i am)

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>>16391147
found it:
https://teezauber.shop/p/hario-filter-in-bottle-mizudashi-farbe-british-racing-green

my favorite tea to cold brew is tai ping hou kui

>> No.16391234

>>16388994
>>16389173
>>16389182
>>16390223
Another anon here, I have the 6xx and I would definitely recommend at least a decent amp. I currently run mine off a schiit magni 2 with no DAC other than my motherboard as it produces really clean audio.
DAC is really only needed if there are noticeable problems.

>> No.16391242

>>16391147
Thanks anon

>> No.16391324

>>16391234
And lipton bags are delicious until you try loose leaf. Get a dac. Quit being cheap.

>> No.16391350

>>16391324
I've tried including a DAC in this setup.
There was no noticeable difference. Not all motherboards are total shit for audio.
DACs are only needed if the mobo is of low quality or introduces problems.
I'm not saying DACs are useless, in fact in most cases having a DAC is a better option.
Don't try to use a food analogy for technology.

>> No.16391455

>>16391350
My old z270g rog strix had one of the best onboard audio implementations in recent memory and both my pro-ject usb box and modi 3 blow it out of the water. What dac have you tried, and generally how sharp is your hearing? I'm an old classically trained violinist whos started out hotrodding xfi cards years ago. I've heard it all.
>Not all motherboards are total shit for audio.
A $100 external dac will blow away the $6 realtek chip nearly everyone uses. My z270g used a custom implementation of the alc1220 and its still junk compared to just plugging in a toslink cable and feeding the signal to nearly anything else. Used some old onkyo receiver as well. Miles of difference.

>> No.16391770

for me it's old raw puer

>> No.16391798

Kombuchanon from last thread, just now sampling my first batch which I bottled with pomegranate and lemon juice. Tastes amazing, but theres a faint sulfur smell left behind now that wasn't there before I bottled it. I've done a little research and I think it happened because I used lemon juice from a bottle with preservatives (sulfites) in it. I'll be sure to be less lazy next time I bottle and squeeze the juice by hand.

>> No.16391823

>>16391798
Interesting, did you keep it refrigerated after adding the flavoring?

>> No.16391879

>>16391823
I left the bottles out for a day to build carbonation before refrigerating. I'm going to bottle a plain one next batch and if that one smells too then I probably got some kind of airborne yeast in my culture, in which case I'll have to start over with a new scoby.

>> No.16391911

>>16391879
Covid killed my scoby :( I was getting raw sugar weekly from sprouts then quit shopping so often. Try infusing a simple syrup with fruits or herbs. Blackberry lavender is one of my all time fav recipes I've worked on. Lavender lemonade is also top tier. I'd bottle up 4 gallons and fridge a bottle when I'd finish a bottle, so loads of secondary ferment.

>> No.16391927

>>16391911
Ive posted this before but this lady sells awesome scoby / starter cultures if you want a new one.
https://kefirlady.com/

>> No.16391972

>>16391927
>https://kefirlady.com/
Is this some sort of knock off

https://www.kombuchakamp.com/hannah-crum-the-kombucha-mamma

>> No.16392071

>>16391972
Nah it's just a popular hobby among eccentric older women

>> No.16392098

Should sheng and shou puer actually be seaparated or is it just a meme?

>> No.16392162

>>16392098
Maybe technically they should, hasn't been a problem for me.
I wouldn't worry about it unless you have some really stinky tea

>> No.16392209

On a scale of 1-10, 1 being a normal human being, how spergy is it to correct someone that they're drinking a Tisane and Tea is one very specific plant.

>> No.16392244

>>16392209
Its pretty autistic, since leaf water is a commonly used meaning for the word tea, even if it isn't technically correct

>> No.16392352

>>16392209
Man if you want real sperg stuff try arguments over what is or isn't a roguelike.
Personally I prefer correct labeling of things as it allows for quicker understanding of variation within a genre.

I'm not gonna correct someone calling a herbal tisane a tea in a casual conversation. However for the sake of being accurate in a discussion or for asking/giving advice on something using correct terminology is a must.
Sometimes broad labeling is fine, and sometimes there is a need for more accurate labeling.

>> No.16392773

>>16390223
I bought the HD6XX and a Soundblaster G6 since I needed an amp/DAC with mic input and it was the only one that I could find easily available with that. It says it can power up to 600 ohms so hopefully it is good. I have poor hearing anyways from firing guns without ear protection in my childhood. I think that I might move tea to the backburner for now as I slowly go through the two bricks that I bought last year. I also am a coffee boy so I am looking at getting a Niche Zero ($700) so I probably shouldn't be spending anything extra on a teapot until I have my coffee upgrade squared away.

>> No.16392873

>>16392773
>Soundblaster G6
Oh no. Cancel it if you can and get a schiit hel.

https://www.schiit.com/products/hel-2

>> No.16392951

>>16392209
if its a casual conversation I just call it an herbal infusion instead. most people know what that means

>> No.16392973

To give an example - someone says "Oh, I like Chamomile Tea"
Now, on a technical level, they're wrong. Chamomile isn't a tea, and it's not even similar to tea like Roobois is (they're both leaves from a shrub) it's dried flowers.
But if I interject and tell them "No, Chamomile isn't a Tea. You like Chamomile Tisane" they're going to give me a blank stare like I'm a psychopath who just kicked their dog in the ribs and they probably aren't going to want to discuss tea or tisanes again in the future.

>> No.16392984

>>16392873
Is that really necessary?

>> No.16393001

>>16392984
100%.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJZfxsSqyk

Listen from 7:24 on.

>> No.16393005

>>16393001
But I don't want to spend $70 more and have to wait 6-8 weeks....................

>> No.16393015

>>16392973
phrasing it like that would make you look like an asshole, yea. gotta figure out a way to work it into the conversation more naturally. don't just correct people, make it relevant to the conversation. then people are glad to learn new terms

if they like chamomile because it's relaxing, mention that that's because it's uncaffeinated. the caffeine is in the tea leaves, which chamomile "tea" doesn't have, it's not even really a tea.

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16393053

recommend good teas for kombucha please :)

>> No.16393068

>>16392984
I have HD650s which are functionally the same as the HD6XX and while I usually use them with a Schiit stack (Magni 2 + Modi 2u), they honestly sound fine out of the 3.5mm jack on my motherboard. It is a Asus ROG board with upgraded DAC and impedance sense so might not be the case for every device though.

>> No.16393083

>>16393015
>if they like chamomile because it's relaxing, mention that that's because it's uncaffeinated
it's weird, I actually find green tea and even some blends of black tea to be relaxing despite their caffeine content. Perhaps it's the ritual, perhaps it's placebo, or perhaps it's actual psychoactive compounds in the tea.

>> No.16393086

>>16393053
Doesn't really matter that much. Buy whatever's bulk organic. Most of the flavor is in the SCOBY processing the tea, and nutrients are nutrients. I think the general consensus was premium tea is wasted on Kombucha, but then I've only ever been a casual brewer. Usually you flavor it with something else that would mask/overpower the subtleties of a finer blend of tea anyways.

>> No.16393091

>>16393005
It'll be like running a corvette under 50mph until you do. I honestly would rec the separate magni modi stack just for the sake of upgrading down the line. But I just got done recabling and replacing the internal wires of my k7xxs with black dragon cable so I probably don't know what I'm talking about.
Sipping on some white2tea peach black and wearing dekoni fenestrated sheepskin pads listening to Woman by Justice. Lifes good.

>> No.16393102

>>16393083
oh yea I forget caffeine is relaxing/centering for some people instead. still don't get how that works, maybe an ADHD thing?

>> No.16393129

>>16393102
Coffee/Coke wakes me up, and it's not like black tea doesn't give me a bit of an energy boost.

>> No.16393816

I'm almost out of oolong bros
i need to find a good place to buy several hundred grams of decent yancha. It doesn't have to be top tier but good enough to be worth drinking daily.

>> No.16393860

>>16393816
My current oolong is all from chawangshop or Essence of Tea. I'm happy with the quality of it but i would really like to get some that is decent quality and less than 40¢ per gram

>> No.16393942

i forgot how tasty it is to chew on some tea leaves after you have brewed them
especially with a nice sweet raw puer

>> No.16393999
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16393999

Sorry, would everyone here shut the fuck up, it's time to discuss the most superior tea in the world, fucking red bush rooibos tea.

>> No.16394006

>>16393999
Have you tried honeybush?
Also nice trips

>> No.16394216
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Settling in for a lazy morning of dogfighting with a gong fu session of funding gong mei
Got a bowl of curry on the stove for pallet cleansing
If only it was winter, then itd be peak comfy

>> No.16394603

>>16394216
That teacakes is from YS right?
How is it?

>> No.16394972

what do you guys think about mixing teas?
i feel like itd be something generally looked down upon but if i have an okay mid aged puer
and some 5 year white tea it mixes pretty freaking well

maybe post other possible combinations?

>> No.16395027

>>16394972
Assam and ceylon black tea, yunnan and Darjeeling black tea. Darjeeling and ceylon black tea. Pretty much any wuyi oolongs like shui cian and rou gui

>> No.16395038

>>16393999
>>16394006
I'm also a honeybush guy, when it comes to roiboos.

>> No.16395636

i keep saying this is the year I'm going to put in a big Japanese tea order. Still hasn't happened.
I really want to get some nice genmatcha, it's so nice for hot weather.

>> No.16395686

>>16388164
Try the farmer's market, Mine got a loose tea vendor

>> No.16395690

is there a difference between loose leaf basilur and bagged basilur?

>> No.16395888

>>16395690
Is basilur a brand?
Usually loose leaf is better quality than bagged, even within the same brand

>> No.16395991

>>16394216
Your cake is upside down on the stand

>> No.16396646

Gween Tea.

>> No.16397242

Been setting up a cooler to use as a tea humidor. I'd call it a pumidor but I'm mostly putting non-puerh heicha in it, so heichador it is. Shit's going great.

>> No.16397988

>>16390265
my bf constantly mogs me

>> No.16398015

>>16390265
my bf constantly teases me for drinking gongfu. he considers grandpa style to be far closer to how tea is drunk among peasants in yunnan, and that my way of preparing tea is aristocratic, haughty, or otherwise self important. When I told him that smaller tea drinking vessels were better, he told me to just put more tea in the water. His tea is always really heavily steeped because he revels in the bitterness.

Terrifying.

>> No.16398165

Tried some pu-erh tou chas (shou) the other day.
Best black tea I've ever had. I love it.

>> No.16398184

>>16398165
Nice
Love me some puerh

>> No.16398332

>>16398015
He sounds like a chad and you sound like a sissy.

>> No.16398446

>>16395991
Oh well, it's practically just the wrapper anyways
>>16394603
Yeah, the 2018. Its really good, like Christmas spices

>> No.16398586

>>16398446
>like Christmas spices
Is it sweet?

>> No.16398597

>>16397242
All hail the honchodor.
>>16398015
Hopefully you're gay, otherwise I fear for your children.

>> No.16399350

>>16398586
Yes

>> No.16400121

reminder
It's time to start stocking up on cozy cold weather teas.
Liu bao, ripe puer, old raw puer, other Chinese fermented teas, hearty black teas, and of course roasted oolongs. With shipping being so slow you should put your orders in soon to make sure you are stocked up.
I will mostly be getting liubao and a ripe cake or two.

>> No.16400676

>>16400121
Shill
Besides it takes like 2 weeks for my shit to get here, even shorter when I order from US-based vendors

>> No.16400756

I'm gonna buy bagged tea and you can't stop me.

>> No.16400775

>>16400121
What tea do I buy

>> No.16400996

>>16400775
That is up to you friend. If you are feeling brave a nice liu bao is a good call. The black box cnnp from purple mountain tea or the 4 gold coins, any of the one from Yunnan sourcing except the old ones from 2005 or before, those aren't easy to get into. Lots of good ones of chawangshop too

>> No.16401493

Bros give it to me straight, is there any value in becoming a tea master?? Been looking at ITMA's training courses and wonder if it is worth it from even just a personal development standpojnt. Or, if that organization is alright and not just another predatory educational institute. What do yinz think??

>> No.16401512

>>16401493
What do they define as a tea master exactly?

>> No.16402402

>>16401493
Just learn about it on your own lol. Why would you pay some stupid organization for information you can get on the internet

>> No.16402535

First for old sheng from unglazed teapot. It's really the peak of camellia sinensis.

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>>16402535
Funny you mention that i just started a pot of
2004 Nanqiao Bada Nannuo Blend from teas we like.
Really fantastic stuff, maybe a bit smokey for some but just about perfect for me.
I initially found this pot a bit muting but now that it's seen daily use for a few months it's settled in nicely. I really want to get more clay pots now.

>> No.16402784

>>16388171
>drink matcha once
>lie in bed awake all night thinking about how meaningless life is

I hate it

>> No.16403068

>>16402784
Is it that good? Or that bad?

>> No.16403106

About to grandpa some 2019 Gu Yi a55. Figure its the quickest way to get through these ebay samples.

Also for the dacfag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afcj-l3sqGc

>> No.16403111

/tea/ is seeing a real grampa brewing renaissance.

>> No.16403136
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16403136

For me, it's Lapsang Souschong. In 20 years I haven't had anything that comes close.

>> No.16403138

>>16403136
Pretty solid choice, anon, i love smokey teas. Where do you get yours?

>> No.16403149

>>16402578
Look at this cozy motherfucker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCPgmKx3XJI

Any more notes on this bing? Smoky, check. Woody, spicy, huigan, thickness, dynamic? Upper or downer? Thanks in advance.

>>16403136
That's pretty boring 20 years m'boomer. Reminds me of marrying your highschool sweetheart. Have you branched out along the way?

>> No.16403150

>>16403138
Mail order. Cheapest way to get it where I live for some reason.

>> No.16403208

afwican honeybush

>> No.16403234

>>16403149
>Any more notes on this bing?
Smokey, mineral, a bit of a tang or fruity kind of sour note ( not a funky ripe sour fermented flavor) for lack of a better term. A bit juicy, even with taiwan storage it's got heavy compression so not as aged as some stuff that's this old, still miles ahead of kunming. Pretty balanced cha qi, it doesn't make me start sweating hard like some teas do, it's also not overly stimulating or jittery, so i guess it's move on the relaxing calm chill side of things. Brews up a deep orange color, hasn't wuite made it over to red brown, sort of a balance bitterness and sweetnes, neither are particularly strong. The big things are smoke and minerality with some hints of dried fruit and maybe some dry woods in the finish. Finish lasts fairl long on the tongue and i get a good number of brews from it compared to some newer factory teas.

>> No.16403297

>>16402402
Yea that's how I felt for a long time, but I may end up using the cert at some point down the road and it would be nice to have face time with actual trained professionals who I can engage with and learn about some of the more minute details in tea.

>> No.16403299

>>16403234
Sounds right up my valley, but also only for 70-80 bucks. TWL "hobbyists" please start selling 50g samples. With your crazy overhead in the last years you should be able to afford the manpower to do it. Do it.

I really like "wood bitters" quality in some old puer. Like angostura from aged leaves. Cobine that with good salivating effect and long but not papery finish and I'm in heaven.
Thanks for your time mate, appreciate it.

>> No.16403499

>>16403299
Yeah i agree the price is higher than i like.

>> No.16403889

Anyone else like to do Chaozhou gongfu cha? Specifically I mean brewing in a clay teapot, loading it with tons of leaves, doing quick steeps at first, and optionally crushing part of the leaves. It's really neat and brews a great yancha. It has become part of the appeal of using Yixing for me.

>> No.16403945

>>16403889
Sounds like a bunch of ying yang zen doctrine wankery to me. Which guru told you to do it this way?
Fucking sheeple, when will they learn.

>> No.16403983

>>16403945
It's really a pretty standard thing for people that are into yancha, it's basically gongfu but with even more tea and shorter infusions. I thought it works pretty good for roasted strip style oolongs
>>16403889
Yeah it's pretty nice, have your tried it with other kinds of tea? I'm not sure what else it would work as well withn

>> No.16404430

>>16403983
I'm into yancha and it's not standard for me.
What are you trying to promote?

>> No.16404455

>>16403945
>>16404430
It's a regional practice in Chaozhou. It's just how a lot of them drink their tea there, hence why it's done with yancha but also with dancong and in Chaozhou clay pots because that's the local stuff. It wasn't invented by a "guru" and it's not westernized or nothing. It's a precursor to modern gongfu cha.

>> No.16404490

>>16404455
link me the source gweilo and if it's global tea hut sect then don't even bother
>inb4 no source, I heard it here and there
it's your time to shine, come one, convince me that your tradition gave birth to modern gongfu (hongkong and taiwan revisionist style). go on.

>> No.16404688

Is there a science to getting tea high? I bought some regular old sencha the other day and made a cup. The stuff knocked me right out, like I just finished smoking a fat one. I've never had this happen before, and making the tea again a few more times, it didn't effect me at all. Maybe I just brewed the perfect cup?

>> No.16404704

>>16404688
I think the biggest effect is simply the caffeine. We don't expect to be getting so much caffeine from "just some tea" but green tea can have a lot more than you would think. I'm sure there is the L-theanine aspect too, which acts synergistically with caffeine and reduces feelings of jitteriness. I have a pretty decent caffeine tolerance but the one time I tried gyokuro it made me feel really pleasantly euphoric, I just laid down on my floor and listened to music. I suspect a decent chunk of that effect was just simply getting a higher dose of caffeine from the shaded green leaf, since during the days prior similar leaf weights of other teas were not producing much of an effect at all in me due to tolerance. Also I've gotten a very similar euphoric feeling simply from a single cup of coffee, but that was when I had virtually no tolerance at all. That's why I think it's mainly the caffeine and not some more complex thing going on.

>> No.16404890

>>16404688
I don't think it's well understood. I experience a tea buzz sometimes that makes me think their is some kind of tea drunk sensation. Sometimes i just think its bullshit.

>> No.16405156

>>16403983
I haven't tried it with any other kind of tea, but solely because I have just the one teapot so far. Though I guess you could do something similar in a gaiwan. It's definitely an idea, I wonder what teas would work with it. My first thought might be heicha, cause they tend to respond well to being pushed with high amounts of leaf.
>>16404490
I don't know what I could say that could please you. That's literally it, I heard it from different places, saw the different parts of it mentioned, looked it up and it looked legit. Here's a guide I found helpful
https://www.kyarazen.com/chaozhou-gongfu-tea/
I don't have a definitive source on it, I don't think there is because this is something that random old guys do in Chaozhou. There's probably all kinds of local tea traditions that, even in this age of information, filter extremely slowly to the west because it's just their thing. In fact that's part of what I find cool about it. Now if there's something that I heard of from just one tea guy and I don't know if it's really a thing, it's the practice of a huiweibei, or "returning flavor cup", which is allegedly a practice by tea drinkers in the Wuyi mountains where you rinse the tea, pour it off into a separate vessel, then save it to drink when it has cooled down after you have actually drunk the tea. I don't know if that's really a thing.

>> No.16405638
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ordered the verdant tea 5 for $5 sampler linked in a prev thread. only drank black/green loose leaf before. never tried oolong.
tried the anxi oolong (pic related, on the left). brewed in a mug. tasted very leafy, mildly astringent, otherwise like a green. going to try a second brew in a bit. anyway is this normal for an oolong or did I fuck up brewing?

>> No.16405643

>>16405638
forgot to mention I didn't like it. not a fan of the strong leafy quality

>> No.16405652

>>16405638
>did I fuck up brewing
Maybe, I'm assuming it's like tieguanyin which should taste distinctly floral, not just leafy and not astringent. So it's not normal for an oolong. I haven't tried verdant's stuff nor have I tried mug brewing tieguanyin myself though. Perhaps try gongfu.

>> No.16405656

Is bagged puer any good? Cakes seem like too much of a hassle

>> No.16405659

>>16405643
there are roasted and unroasted oolongs. one is perfumed green tea, the other perfumed black tea. both give you headaches according to yunnanese chinks. same yunnanese who produce best natural tea in the world and then never drink it, because it's "for export" tea.

answering your question, maybe you don't like tea? I was raised on shitty black tea (not bags, ctc powder from pajeetland or negroland), so fancy ones was just a step up for me, but apparently some of you drink your first tea in early 20's. that's pretty weird and I can't relate.

>>16405656
look at this dude.
nope, better than your african lipton maybe, but maybe not. explore your supermarket brands if you don't want hassle.

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cue the finum brew basket/wall of links that nobody clicks anon
watch him forget to attach his picrel

>> No.16405675

>>16405656
You mean loose puerh? I'm sure it can be good, I wouldn't do that over a cake though. It's not that hard to pry chunks off a cake, or if you must, break it up ahead of time. Cakes have their own conveniences too, like taking up less space.
>>16405659
There's gotta be good ones like sheng puerh maocha.

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>>16405638
You're in luck, I happened to get my sampler just a few days ago and had yet to decide what tea to drink this morning, so thanks for choosing for me.

To start with, I wasn't impressed with the sample immediately upon opening. The leaves looked pretty broken and they even had the courtesy to send me a giant stem. I brewed the whole thing gong fu in a ~120 mL pot for 60 seconds with boiling water. Before I poured the water I noticed an odd looking object in my teapot, it turns out they also were kind enough to send me a pebble (bottom pic), never seen that before, I guess this is my first rock oolong.

The tea itself was decent. I've had a few oolongs and this was much more similar to a cheap green tea however. No bitterness, mild astringency, and very strong saltiness/minerality, the latter of which I very much enjoyed. Absolutely no floral notes, and no butteriness.

I don't think you messed up the brewing, this doesn't seem to be a high quality tea at all but it was definitely drinkable. You can see the broken leaf in my strainer from the first brew, there is quite a bit there. I will keep brewing it for the next few hours periodically and if anything crazy happens I'll post an update. I certainly wouldn't buy this though or anything from Verdant in the future. Taste and price aside I don't appreciate getting a rock and a twig with my tea.

>> No.16406839

I only drink superior Japanese tea brewed 1000 times.

>> No.16407368

>>16406839
I've still never had loose leaf Japanese tea

>> No.16407399

>>16405675
No, not loose. Amazon has tea bags of puer.

>> No.16407494

>>16407399
I really hope you are getting the ones from taetea
These are the only puer teabags on Amazon worth bothering with, yes thry are overpriced but you should be getting puer cakes anyway.
This is the official store of the dayi tae tea factory on amazon, the biggest puer producer in china and the undisputed champions of making good ripe puer.
https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/C1BF4438-1E40-4C05-B8B2-08FD34D61EA2

>> No.16408275

where can i buy tea by the chest?

>> No.16408760
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>>16388199
>Same anon who will complain when local businesses shut down, saying "Why can't I ever just buy anything where I live"

>> No.16408770

>>16393999
Rooibos is truly my favourite. I'll easily buy 100g bags while everything else is around 25-50g when I need to restock.

>> No.16408793

>>16390228
Oatmilk makes me sick, I hate this meme. At least nut milk isn't 99% carbs.

>> No.16409708

Should I water down my black tea to make it less acidic?

>> No.16409715

>>16409708
No man, tea isn't very acidic to begin with

>> No.16409724

>>16409715
I've been reading everywhere that black tea is terrible for your teeth
I mean it makes sense when you look at brits

>> No.16409725

>>16409724
They drink their tea with sugar and shit and have bad hygiene in general

>> No.16409743

>>16409725
I think even without extra sugar, the combination of tea with milk can't be good for your teeth considering the natural sugar that's already in milk

>> No.16409849

Is gong fu brewing really that much better? I guess it makes sense that with western style brewing, you would be diluting the tea itself while with gong fu it's much more controlled it seems. Ordered myself a gaiwan last night, look forward to trying it out!

>> No.16410324

>>16409849
I think it's definitely worth it. The first few brews for me are almost always wonderful experiences even with pretty "meh" quality teas. I find that with shitty breakfast broken leaf black tea blends that gong fu doesn't make any difference at all, because increasing the concentration of the tea just increases the bad flavors as fast as the good, but with decent to good quality tea, even a 2x concentration increase in "bad" flavors is not much since most teas shouldn't be bitter, while a 2x in good takes you from a mild flavor to a powerful one.

I think the key is also that the good flavors are more easily concentrated in early brews with short brew times. With japanese greens in particular, which tend to get bitter, the later brews doing gong fu (7th or 8th cup) are decently bitter, very astringent, but lack much flavor at all. Brew #7 isn't a hard cutoff or anything, and I tend to brew my cups pretty strong from brew #1, but hopefully it gives you an idea of what I mean.

Also even with long brewing times and good quality leaves doing western style, it still will produce a difference because you are not using as much leaf to the amount of water. Aromatics and lighter flavors tend to get brewed in the first 1 or 2 brews doing gong fu, but with western style those light notes are going to be diluted out into the 3rd, 4th, and 5th+ brews since it's all going into the same large volumes over the span of a couple minutes. Gong fu lets you see how the different tea compounds brew at different rates and how the tea can "evolve" over time. Initial brewings may be very floral and fragrant, later brews more "mineral" tasting as the aromatics die out.

This is just my experience from about a month of doing gong fu as a beginner with a few examples of each tea classification, I'm definitely not even close to well versed but if a scrub like me can tell a difference that's probably even better evidence.

>> No.16410361

>>16389525
because most people unironically don't understand that matcha is different from regular tea/green tea

>> No.16410476

>>16409724
>when you look at brits
you shouldn't base your opinion on a people by their actors, brits try to cast 'real' people, hollywood casts fantasy. also stained teeth =/ poor dental hygiene
what really fucks teeth is bacteria and sugar making acid but tea is drunk hot. staining can be dealt with with toothpaste

>> No.16411073

Ahhhh im almost completely out of wuyi oolong.
less than 50g left
still looking for recs for good places to get a few 100g for a half decent price.

>> No.16411568

I got a 2019 white tea cake and it tastes minty. All the white teas Ive had in the past were more like honey and recently harvested. I am not sure if I like this

>> No.16411573

>>16411568
I can't decide if i like minty flavors in tea or not, i get it in some puer occasionally, i generally don't like any mint flavors but it's pretty nice if its subtle.

>> No.16411620

>>16411573
I grow my own peppermint and make infusions of that a lot but I don't think I really liked this. I'm kinda picky about my mint though and peppermint is the only one I really like a lot and this mint definitely wasn't peppermint

>> No.16411704

>>16411620
Yeah it's more of a herbal green minty flavor if that makes any sense.

>> No.16412069

>>16410324
Thanks for the thorough reply! I've got some hopefully good quality oolong coming fairly shortly along with the gaiwan, this post has me pretty excited.

>> No.16412290

>>16412069
oolong is the new king of teas

>> No.16412343

>>16387972
Can we all agree that once you know someone is a miffy that it's okay to lose all respect for them?

>> No.16412369
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TEA MASTERRACE CHECKING IN

>> No.16412810

>>16412369
Milk with the cream on top?

>> No.16413023

>>16412810
Tiffy masterrace, as God intended.

>> No.16413037
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is tea good for you?

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>>16413037
>is tea good for you?

>> No.16413248
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I'm putting together a cart from Yunnan Sourcing, and I'm looking for some advice. My goals are:
1) To try aged white, aged raw puerh, and (optionally) silver needle tea for the first time.
2) Get the best bang for my buck. I want to get decent quality teas as a first introduction to each of these types, but I don't need the top shelf premium stuff (yet).

Pic related is what I currently have. I live in the US, so if you have a better suggestion for vendors that's fine too. I'm mostly interested in branching out into fermented teas. I've tried a fairly cheap ripe puerh before and it was good. I guess it's pretty hard to give specific advice about specific listings, but I have seen people post good deals that they have personally tried and vouched for in the past so I'm more just trying to probe the hivemind to come to a decision.

>> No.16413281

>>16413248
That raw brick looks like a decent choice for price/quality ratio. Im looking for some other suggestions. Will report back in a few

>> No.16413300

>>16413248
If you wanna try aged raw puerh that brick probably isn't where it's at. Try something a few years older, ideally stored somewhere besides Kunming. Consider trying samples of multiple instead getting a whole cake, you will learn the difference fast. And don't get those silver needles, get the Fuding silver needles. Tell us how it goes.

>> No.16413315

>>16413248
>>16413281
Some good fermented teas from Ys.us
Consider grabbing this sample, it's not cheap but it's a decent price for a sample of some old tea
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/pu-erh-tea/products/2004-changtai-green-jinggu-raw-pu-erh-tea-cake
Too bad all the cheaper white tea cakes are sold out.
At least the one you picked is a full sized cake, looks good but im not really a white tea expert.
Consider an order of liubao
https://yunnansourcing.us/collections/guangxi-liu-bao-tea/products/2008-hei-shan-old-tree-raw-liu-bao-tea
That should be interesting to compare to aged puer.
I'm going to check a couple other stores real quick.

>> No.16413325

>>16413248
Just get a bunch of samples from https://www.liquidproust.com/

>> No.16413367

>>16413248
Yeah i looked around us vendors and i don't know what to suggest.
Hit up kingteamall and wait for shipping
https://kingteamall.com/collections/others-puerh-tea/products/2006-lancang-jing-mai-gu-cha-jingmai-old-tree-tuo-250g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2005-xiaguan/products/2005-xiaguan-jia-ji-1st-grade-tuo-100g-puerh-sheng-cha-raw-tea
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2005-changtai/products/2005-changtai-meng-hai-cha-zhuan-menghai-brick-250g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha?variant=32647767720039
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2011-mengku-rongshi/products/2011-mengku-rongshi-qiao-mu-xiao-sheng-bing-arbor-small-raw-cake-145g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha
White tea
https://kingteamall.com/collections/white-tea/products/2017-xiaguan-yue-guang-moon-light-cake-360g-bai-cha-white-tea
Silver needle if you really want to, id say it's not worth the money
https://kingteamall.com/collections/white-tea/products/2014-spring-bai-mu-dan-white-poeny-white-tea-fuding-fujian-province-1?variant=31601362174055

>> No.16413414

>>16413037
From a purely scientific, objective standpoint? Hard to say. The general consensus is "Yes" but to what extent is HOTLY debated due to a lack of peer-reviewed studies/evidence.
From a subjective standpoint? It varies depending on person but absolutely. There's almost no health detriment to drinking moderate quantities of Tea, and if you're anything like me then drinking Tea reduces your stress levels and relaxes you. That alone, even if it's a placebo effect, makes Tea objectively good for you (if you experience that reduction in stress.)
tl;dr; Yes, but it's not going to cure cancer or anything crazy. We can't truly say HOW good it is for you, but almost everyone agrees it's beneficial.

>> No.16413420

Do those mesh wire ball infusers affect the taste of tea? I swear it does.

>> No.16413562

Anyone tried Camellia Sinensis, the online store? I believe it's based in Canada. Haven't had bad experiences, prices seem reasonable and tea quality seems pretty good.

>> No.16413680

>>16413420
You might have a tarnished one. I threw out a metal serving spoon cause I swore I could taste metal

>> No.16414031

>>16398015
Post tétés pls

>> No.16414370

Unironically, is there anything like MAL or RYM for tea? Like keeping track of the teas I’ve tried and where I got them from, best way to brew them and keeping track of my collection

>> No.16414458

>>16414370
I’ve been looking for this too. The best one I’ve found so far is an app called Tea Ave but it’s a bit limited. It lets you document each tea that you have, how many grams remaining, infusion temperatures and times, tasting notes, etc. but it doesn’t really have any analytic features. Still looking for something better

>> No.16414468

I love lapsang so much lads

>> No.16414652

>>16413037
are you gonna plug yer ass with that tea lad

>> No.16414659

>>16414458
Alright, that looks decent but I think for now I'll just stick with my spreadsheet

>> No.16414939

>>16414370
Steepster maybe?
I don't use it personally other than to read others reviews but I think it might have some of the tea tracking capabilities you are looking for.

>> No.16414961

>>16413562
I bought a brewer and two teas from them a while back. One of the teas was shockingly tasteless and bland. The other was one of the most delicious and unique teas I've ever had.

>> No.16415215

>>16413562
If you are in Canada check out https://www.capitaltea.com/ i haven't used them personally but they look good and do the things i look for in a good tea shop.

>> No.16415249

I saw some stories of people trying to make kombucha only for the scoby to become infested with fruit flies, now I'm already cared

>> No.16415258

>>16415249
I had that happen to me after i forgot about a brew and left it in my cabinet for 2 months, otherwise i never had a problem so just don't forget about it and you will be fine.

>> No.16415571

>>16389525
>I really don't know why this isn't more popular considering how convenient and pleasant it can be to mix cheap matcha with cold beverages.
cheap matcha is ground up teabags.

>> No.16415582

>>16415249
As long as you're cycling it, have a proper cheesecloth filter on top, etc. you'll be fine. If you're really worried, keep your "hotel" (backup colony not used for active brewing) in a separate room with a lid on it and open it a few times a day to refresh the oxygen and keep it from dying.

>> No.16415606
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What is the green tea with the highest caffeine content, other than matcha?

Google and duckduckgo come up with nothing but irrelevant shit results and reddit says gyokuro but I don't trust those fucks.

>> No.16415620

>>16415606
I don't know if there's any hard data on this sort of thing, but logically I would think it's gyokuro due to being shade grown.

>> No.16415938

Is there some way to grandpa style tea without getting a bunch of stems and leaves with air bubbles in them that float to the top?

>> No.16415955

>>16415938
Make sure to pur fully boiling water over the leaves in the mug, don't add the leaves to hot water. Some of the stems floating is unavoidable but leaves should almost always all sink by the time it's cool enough drink. Usually before i start drinking i grab a fork and flick all the stems that are still floating into the trash.

>> No.16416137

if nobody shills me some good yancha shops i swear i will buy a kilo of dahongpao bricks

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>>16413300
>>16413315
>>16413325
>>16413367

Thanks for all of the advice guys. I ended up dropping the cheap brick, sticking with Yunnan Sourcing (inexpensive 2 day shipping), and I picked up the Liu Bao suggested. I got 2 raw puerhs to compare as well as a free "newer" raw puerh which I think will serve as a useful comparison. I kept the large white tea cake, but threw in a sample of an older cake as well to enable comparisons. Overall I'm pretty happy with the structure of the order, I would love to try everything from every vendor but I can only drink so much tea and I like to avoid getting tons of samples because they aren't very cost effective. It will take a while to sample everything but I'll be sure to pop back in with my thoughts in a couple weeks, hopefully with some good news.

>> No.16416365

>>16416344
Yeah it gets overwhelming looking through shops like YS, there is usually a dozen different teas i want to pick up.
Interested in your thoughts on that liubao.
Looks like you picked some interesting teas to try.

>> No.16417120 [DELETED] 

>>16416344
too late now but
dont forget their deals page, you probably qualify for a free gift
you could try emailing them and canceling then reordering with your chosen gift(i've done that in the past)

>> No.16417183

I got some YS Da Hong Pao and Rou Gui that tastes overroasted. Especially the Rou Gui, I can't name much of a flavor besides roast. I wonder if it'd be worthwhile to wait for it to mellow out or anything.
>>16416137
I haven't ordered from any yancha-specialized vendors yet so I can't be much help but Wuyi Origin and Old Ways Tea look legit. I've tried a bunch of YS oolongs and they seem good aside from a couple dud teas that are too roasted.
>dahongpao bricks
These are terrible aren't they?

>> No.16417194

>>16390228
oat"milk" and almond "milk" aren't even milk you goddamn millennial faggot

>> No.16417822

>>16390228
>>16390261
Milk tea is cringe

>> No.16418307

>>16388940
by drinking heaps of caffeine daily for over a decade
the symptoms are very mild tho, mainly some headache for three or four days, compared to other withdraws

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If anyone’s good at finding teapots I could use your help. These are my criteria:

-Zini clay
-Between 60-90 ml
-Preferably shui ping shape
-Preferably less than $100

I’ve found two so far but have some doubts/questions

https://mudandleaves.com/collections/teapots/products/tianqingni-small-shuiping-yixing-teapot-天青泥小水平壶-75ml

This one says it’s made out of a “legendary” tian qing clay. I tried researching more about this clay but couldn’t find much information besides one site saying it’s extinct. Is this really made out of tian qing clay? Is the clay really that good or is it just rare? $220 is pretty expensive

https://essenceoftea.com/products/70ml-fang-xia-qingshuini-shui-ping-yixing-teapot?variant=40357023219869

This one says it’s made of qing shui clay, which from my brief research just means the clay used isn’t mixed with anything else. Is there any way to tell what kind of clay it is specifically or at least if the clay is high quality?

>> No.16418450

>>16418395
The EoT pot is a decent choice but not zini.
Here are a few others made by the same shop that
Mud and Leaves uses
https://purplecloudteahouse.com/collections/yixing-pottery/products/small-dicaoqing-shuiping-yixing-teapot-80ml
This second one is the same clay but it's got a second reduction firing to give it that cool color, has to be washed very thoroughly when you get it.
https://purplecloudteahouse.com/collections/yixing-pottery/products/heini-wuhui-dicaoqing-small-dicaoqing-shuiping-yixing-teapot-80ml
And here is a post about that type of clay
It is a subtype of zini
https://mudandleaves.com/blogs/teatime/yixing-dicaoqing
Mud and leaves have a few blog posts about that expensive clay, i wouldn't bother unless you are collecting teapots.
https://mudandleaves.com/blogs/teatime/tian-qing-ni-from-raw-ore-to-clay
https://mudandleaves.com/blogs/teatime/tian-qing-ni-part-2-from-clay-to-teapot

>> No.16418504

>>16418450
If it helps any i have one of the 100ml zini pots form essence of tea and i was looking at getting out of the 100ml Qing Shui Ni pots , i think the Qing Shui Ni will be a little less muting than the zini, but i think it will still have some rounding effect.
I will take a look at the other good shops for small pots but i wont find anything cheaper than the ones from EoT that i can endorse.

>> No.16418751

>>16418395
>>16418450
well i found another pot thats kind of cool
https://yinchenstudio.com/collections/teapot/products/shui-ping-yixing-teapot-80ml
this one is 100ml but its a good price and the right clay
https://yinchenstudio.com/collections/teapot/products/shui-ping
zisha art gallery has a few that are the right size and clay, vintage stuff is kind of a minefield, You can find good pieces but a lot of the stuff made from the communist revolution until 2005 or so kinda sucks.
http://zishaartgallery.com/product-category/yixing-zisha-%e5%ae%9c%e5%85%b4%e7%b4%ab%e7%a0%82/zisha-teapot-%e7%b4%ab%e7%a0%82%e5%a3%b6/%e8%bf%91%e4%bb%a3%e5%a3%b6/
same applys here you wont get the qualiy of modern pots, green label stuff is okay dependiong on who you ask, white label and lazer label is meh
http://2088taiwan.com//index.php?route=product/category&path=71
that is about it, i think your best bet is the pot from essence of tea or one of the ones from purple cloud/mud and leaves. Good luck, let me know if you have any questions.

>> No.16418983

I think Lipton has ruined me. I love black tea.

>> No.16419017

>>16418983
Black tea is great, just upgrade from lipton

>> No.16419047

>>16404890
i want to know about this more too
I've been chasing a high i got from a mint iced tea i made forever ago

>> No.16419081

I wanted to drink some tea but I didn't feel like staying up all night so I made some thyme tisane.

>> No.16419119

>>16419047
Just drink lots of tea and see what happens

>> No.16419282
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Round 2 on the kombucha, this time i flavored the front 3 bottles with some mango I needed to get rid of, and the back 3 with ginger and lemon. Made sure to avoid any flavorings with preservatives so hopefully it will come out smelling better this time.

>> No.16419299

>>16419282
Nice, how did this batch taste on it's own before the second bottling? Are you going to keep them in the fridge this time while you let the flavors do their thing?

>> No.16419336

>>16419299
I used straight black tea instead of russian caravan this time, and it seems that it gave the pellicle much more nutrients, there was way more activity in the vessel this time around. No off tastes or smells in the 1F so i'm positive it was the preservatives in the lemon juice that produced sulfur last time. I think i'm gonna leave them out for a day or two during the 2F to keep the yeasts active because I want the mango to break down a bit.

>> No.16419833

>>16419336
Sounds good anon i hope it works out, i still think that doing the flavoring step out of the fridge is risky but i hope it works out

>> No.16419960

Any advice when looking at pricing for green or oolong tea. Avg price to gram/oz, is something generally like this overpriced?https://redblossomtea.com/products/green-tea-collection
I just wanted to get a rough idea when i start branching out and looking at more websites.

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What are your opinions on this? I know it’s cheap shit but curious how it stacks up to more expensive genmaicha.

>> No.16420185

>>16419960
Red blossom is moderately priced, other than the dragonswell meme stuff of course, they aren't cheap, they aren't particularly expensive.
Purple cloud has a couple interesting green teas right now.
I really think kingteamall is a good place to get green teas if you don't mind the shipping times. I think their quality to price ratio is very good

>> No.16420193

>>16420178
Ive only had similar asian market genmacha, i was surprised that it was pretty decent, good for making big batches of tea without worry about how much it costs.
Genmatcha is very rarely going to use super high end teas in them.

>> No.16420388

Is there any point in buying a gaiwan if I have a kyusu?

>> No.16420592

>>16420388
Depends on what size your kyusu is. It's nice to have a gaiwan in the 100-130 ml size for gongfu brewing, so if your kyusu is 200ml or more it's worth grabbing a cheap gaiwan

>> No.16420685

>>16418450
>>16418504
>>16418751
Thanks for the really detailed response! For the one that underwent reduction firing, is that just for the color or does it affect the taste of the tea as well? From what I'm reading it sounds like reduction firing pots are less muting and contribute less body but I'm curious what your experience is.

>> No.16420743

>>16420685
I don't have experience with using reduction fired pots personally
I would not be surprised if reduction fired pots are less muting since it is fired a second time for the reduction process and more/higher firing tends to make clay teapots less reactive with the tea inside.
But I'm not sure how big of an effect it will be it probably wont perform like a totally different clay, id guess the effect would be more subtle.
I think they look really cool, it's a really dramatic look

>> No.16421103

why do br*tish people insist on ruining tea with milk?

>> No.16421128
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16421128

Hello everyone! I am quite new to tea, only got my gongfu set a few days ago and ive been drinking this way daily since i got it-- don't know how I ever brewed things in a western pot. I recieved dragonwell tea and da hong pao samples, and had a ton of fun with the da hong pao, saving a second brewing of it for when I get some spring water from the countryside, but the dragonwell was quite grassy and acrid, leading me to believe I have either botched brewing it or that maybe the tea had some contamination or influence that degraded it's quality. Yesterday, I bought 30g of tieguanyin written down as having come from fujian - which I adored so deeply that I wish I bought 100g or 200g instead - and one brick of ripe yunnan pu'erh to complement the loose leaf raw pu'erh I have.

Anyway, regarding questions, I have the following:
>I've noticed that there are a select few people who are considered masters of tea. What makes someone a master?
>Gongfu tea is often described as a skill that one learns. What is it that should be honed? Should I be practicing anything each session to improve my preparation of tea?
>How do non-chinese tea variants respond to gongfu brewing?
>Following from this, why never do I see people talk about assam, darjeeling, or ceylon tea appreciation, for example? Are there Vietnamese teas worth trying?
>What about cultivars outside of Asia, such as teas grown in Europe, or Africa?
>Tieguanyin is god tier! Tieguanyin is my tea waifu! We worship the iron goddess in my household!!! I love it I love it I love it I love it <3333

pic unrelate

>> No.16421142

i recently bought some matcha tea and all the things i need to prepare it, but im having troubles in making the tea too strong. i boil the water to around 80 degrees. I usually use only the little spoon for quantity but im not sure about how much water to use

>> No.16421160

>>16421128
>>I've noticed that there are a select few people who are considered masters of tea. What makes someone a master?
Don't know, I wouldn't care too much about that. Don't get too sucked into the image of a master of tea brewing or anything.
>Gongfu tea is often described as a skill that one learns. What is it that should be honed? Should I be practicing anything each session to improve my preparation of tea?
Yes, but don't get carried away with that idea. This is first and foremost just a hot drink. Once you get the basics of brewing techniques and such you should focus on learning tea itself. Learn and experience more tea and experiment with it to get a result you like.
>>How do non-chinese tea variants respond to gongfu brewing?
It depends on the tea. I've tried darjeeling gongfu-style, it didn't really come out right. If you have a tea where you have any doubts, try it.
>Following from this, why never do I see people talk about assam, darjeeling, or ceylon tea appreciation, for example? Are there Vietnamese teas worth trying?
I've seen talk about that, it's just that you might find more talk about that among English or colonial American-style tea enthusiasts who probably don't do gongfu.
>>Tieguanyin is god tier! Tieguanyin is my tea waifu! We worship the iron goddess in my household!!! I love it I love it I love it I love it <3333
I like it too. Have you tried roast tieguanyin?

>> No.16421191

>>16421160
I would have to find something like roasted tieguanyin online, I don't think my local vendor sells that. Where should I try and buy it?

>> No.16421200

>>16421191
This one good
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/anxi-oolong-tea-autumn-2020/products/charcoal-roasted-gan-de-village-tie-guan-yin-oolong-tea-of-anxi?variant=39921204756679
They also have a light roast one
https://yunnansourcing.com/collections/anxi-oolong-tea-autumn-2020/products/light-roast-premium-tie-guan-yin-anxi-oolong-tea

>> No.16421201

>>16421200
I'll grab it sometime, thanks!

>> No.16421862

I don't understand why people drink that "milk oolong" shit. Is tieguanyin not milky enough for you? I literally saw some shit that was steamed in milk, you might as well just put milk in it like a britbonger retard.

>> No.16421875

Is this the thread to discuss Yerba Mate and Boba Tea?

>> No.16421904

>>16421128
> I get some spring water from the countryside

Ah you motherfucker, my jealousy is without peer. I have to buy water to get good water, my tap water sucks. Think my dad uses a spring at his house, but I'm not sure if the water is good.

Also try Bi Luo Chun black gold from YS and the Hui Run shou. if you want to branch out, try so duck shit oolong or this https://yunnansourcing.com/products/2018-mojun-fu-cha-fu-shen-fu-brick-tea

>> No.16421957

>>16421862
Cause it tastes buttery and thats neat

>> No.16422499

>>16421128
Cheap dragonswell can be kind of crappy, don't leet it ruin your impression of the tea.
Did you brew it at a lower temperature? You want 80°c-90°c not fully boiling water.
Anyway real dragonswell from the designated region is very expensive, kind of like french champagne it's only authentic if it comes from a certain area, this tea typically costs $1-$2 a gram or more and is not really worth buying except for lavish gifts. However there are dragonswell style teas that are quite good, i quite like the moderately priced offerings from kingteamall and the ones from yunnan sourcing are supposed to be pretty decent as well.

>> No.16422514

>>16422499
I brew it at 70°c, as with most green teas. It was a free sample with the teaware I received.

>> No.16422565

>>16421103
Rent free
I bet you get mad at people drinking instant coffee too you autistic fuck

>> No.16422615

I've been drinking a bunch of ripe from a YS sampler and I am enjoying all of them. Are there any other websites I can check out for puer samples to continue experimenting or any cakes that are highly recommended for someone knew to puer?

>> No.16422623

>>16422514
>. It was a free sample with the teaware I received.
Yeah it probably just wasn't good tea then

>> No.16422645

>>16422615
>samples
Liquid prost has some cool sampler packs and vertical samplers.
Just dont go for the teas that are very expensive for small samples, they might be good but it's just no fun to drink a tiny amount of expensive tea.
https://www.liquidproust.com/
>Cakes you can recommend
https://kingteamall.com/collections/others-puerh-tea/products/2006-lancang-jing-mai-gu-cha-jingmai-old-tree-tuo-250g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2011-mengku-rongshi/products/2011-mengku-rongshi-qiao-mu-xiao-sheng-bing-arbor-small-raw-cake-145g-puerh-raw-tea-sheng-cha
https://kingteamall.com/collections/2008-xiaguan/products/2008-xiaguan-nan-zhao-tuo-cha-nanzhao-tuo-tea-100g-puerh-sheng-cha-raw-tea
Ripe
https://kingteamall.com/collections/available/products/2010-kingteamall-jin-ya-gong-tribute-golden-bud-lincang-cake-357g-puerh-ripe-tea-shou-cha?variant=32750807416935
https://kingteamall.com/collections/available/products/2014-kingteamall-lao-cha-tou-old-tea-head-puerh-ripe-tea-shou-cha-的副本?variant=39512376836276

>> No.16422664

>>16422645
Thank you anon the samplers look great and I'll check out those cakes. What exactly is a vertical sampler? Just the same tea from different years allowing you to experience it at different ages? Seems interesting.

>> No.16422679

>>16422664
Yes exactly. It's a cool way to get an idea of how age effects the tea abd also to help get an idea of how much batches can vary from year to year. Interesting because you get to compare a bunch of teas that are all blended to have similar flavor profiles.

>> No.16422690

>>16422679
That is cool. Thank you anon

>> No.16423008

>>16422499
I got the "premium" dragon well which is 25 cents/gram and I was not impressed by it at all. It was one of those teas that smells amazing and then the drink itself lacks all of the tastes you smelled. I've already experimented with brew parameters, and I can't recommend it for the price. I'm very hesitant to try anything more expensive though because I might just end up wasting my money.

>> No.16423043

>>16423008
The one from kingteamall?
I haven't had this years but i had last years and liked it, if you think this years sucks i will stop recommending it.

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>>16387972
how do i convert the mint in my garden into mint for drinking?

>> No.16423072

>>16423055
Pick a bunch, remove leaves from stems, roll lightly in your hands to bruise leaves, dry on cooling rack for a couple days and put in a jar.
You can also just grab handfuls of fresh mint and brew them in hot water.

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16423164

Serious question: is this technically sweet tea?

>> No.16423173

>>16423164
No, it has no tea in it

>> No.16423179

>>16423173
But it's flavored with leaves. Other than carbonation, what makes it not a tea?

>> No.16423184

>>16423179
The technical definition (as you requested) of tea is that it uses tea leaves. Infusions of other plants are called tisanes

>> No.16423187

>>16423179
This is a boring discussion that gets brought up all the time but tea if leaf water made with camellia sinensis leaves. Leaf water made with radom other leaves is called a tissane.

>> No.16423200

>>16389015
Twinings Chai Tea

>> No.16423251

>>16388994
>>16391234
nobass

>> No.16423540

>>16422565
so you're admitting br*tish tea is the equivalent to instant coffee lmao

>> No.16423608

>>16423043
Sorry, didn't clarify. I got it from YS: https://yunnansourcing.us/products/premium-grade-dragon-well-tea-from-hangzhou-long-jing-tea?_pos=3&_sid=f43df682c&_ss=r

It was my first and only dragon well, so take my experience with a grain of salt, but compared to every other green I've tried I found that flavor underwhelming. Maybe I just don't like dragon well, I don't know.

>> No.16423690

>>16423608
Yeah, i hear some complaints about looseleaf from YS. It can be kind of hit or miss when the guy carries so damn many teas.

>> No.16423706

Is it normal for sencha to have a silky mouthfeel?

>> No.16423723

>>16423706
Lots of teas can get a nice viscosity like that. I don't drink Japanese stuff but it's pretty common in chinese teas i drink.

>> No.16423803

Kombucha update: after leaving the bottles out for a day I decided to try burping air into them, the ginger and lemon bottles had little to no carbonation but the mango bottles were extremely fizzy, these ones could have gone straight into the fridge. I'm gonna leave the ginger ones out for another day or two so they fizz up. Trying a mango bottle right now, and it tastes great. sweet but not too sweet and its good and bubbly. The mango I juiced left a lot of pulp in the bottle unfortunately, so I strained it over a glass of ice.

>> No.16423813

>>16423803
Nice, I'm jealous, i haven't made any in a few years now.
It's really great for heartburn for some reason

>> No.16423844

>>16416137
Old Ways Tea is excellent. If you order from them, make sure to get some of the "Masu Wild Style" black as well, it's something special.

>> No.16423854

>>16423844
Thanks anon

>> No.16423877

What's /tea/'s opinion of Mei Leaf? No idea about the tea they sell although I've heard of pretty shady business practices from them. Business aside, the videos they upload on youtube seem really informative and I think anyone who truly cares about tea should give them a quick watch at the very least.

>> No.16423898

>>16423877
The guy shilled me to try puer for the first time like 5 years ago but he is creepy and i can't stand watching his videos. His store is overpriced and has some issues with "muh 500 year old tea trees" marketing bs.
For tea youtube channels i really like farmer leaf, and teadb they are more puer focused but they have pretty good content.

>> No.16423955

>>16423898
I'm still pretty new to his channel, I'm glad I got to watch his Gongfu videos, really convinced to pick up a gaiwan and give it a shot. Shame he's gotta be like that though.

>> No.16423965

>>16423877
I like his videos, he gives a strong impression that he sniffs his own farts which I like. I don't want some wishy washy soi latte kid talking to me about tea, I want someone that speaks with confidence and isn't afraid to let you know he's a businessman. That being said I never bought anything from Mei Leaf and never will, way overpriced lmfao. Thanks for the free videos Don.

>> No.16424110

>>16423955
Yeah his videos seem to be good for getting people excited about tea. Which is always a good thing

>> No.16424168

Recently tried watermelon skin tea after seeing that one Chinese internet star make it (Liziqi?). The taste was grassy and vegetal to start, then a surprising aftertaste of the fruit itself. This is worth trying at least once.

>> No.16424883

>>16424110
That's not always a good thing at all, people getting consumed by marketing bullshit, or the medicinal claims he makes about tea, or especially the gay "teahead" shit isn't good.

>> No.16425061

Anyone ever tried oolong hai? I guess it's oolong with shochu. I found a recipe for it here ( https://umamimart.com/blogs/main/japanify-oolong-hai ) and am thinking about picking up a bottle of shochu to try it out. If you've tried it what did you think and if you made it yourself what oolong and shochu did you use?

>> No.16425568

For gongfu style brewing, what teas *don't* go so well with it? I understand that gongfu traditionally goes very well with pureh and oolong teas, but I also hear about it going quite well with greens and whites as well. What about teas like Rooibos, or other variants like black? I'd imagine herbal teas wouldn't work at all because with even a couple sessions, it would just be a soggy mess.

>> No.16425581

>>16425568
doesn't seem to work with indian teas, no idea why. works for everything chinese

>> No.16425604

>>16425581
I guess everything that's considered a True tea would go well with it, anything else is a bit of a hit or miss

>> No.16425863

Today I brewed longjing but with 208 degrees (close enough to boiling) water. I am completely sold on using boiling water for this tea. It only came out a little bitter on the first few steeps, but I think that's only because I did the first few too long, and it was not unpleasant. It was just more intense and good.
>>16425568
>>16425581
I read somewhere that Indian teas have more tannic compounds which is responsible for their flavor profiles, which is on purpose since these flavors hold up better to drinking it with milk. Tannins are less soluble than other compounds in tea, so it takes a long brew to get the flavor out. The opposite reason is why gongfu works well with other tea. The more soluble, volatile compounds are concentrated by the shorter brewing times and smaller amounts of water.

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16426424

This is all I need. None of that Chinese brewing nonsense

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>>16426424
What's going on here? Why does it look like a big mug of watery cum? Are you using soymilk or something?

>> No.16426446

>>16426424
Cringe.
>>16426436
Yes, it's his watery manlet cum

>> No.16426473

>>16426446
I don't even have any objections to milk tea but that looks questionable.

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Haha, just drank the puer tea, that's basically just like drugs amirite guys, lmao I'M TEA DROOONK

>> No.16426620

>>16424883
Everything he says is objectively and provably true though.

>> No.16427246

>>16423877
a little expensive but he does sell really good tea, does give off a slimy used car salesman vibe though

>> No.16427337

>>16390228
I prefer roachmilk

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>>16426424
>This is all I need.
Good for you. Sometimes I wish I was low intelligence mongoloid creature without inner monologue or any taste whatsoever. Life would be simpler. Less expensive, that's for sure. Alas, I can only dream of reaching the level of serenity now! that your kin can so effortlessly achieve. You're the salt of the earth and true progenitor of human race. I'm but an asterisk. Go fuck yourself.

>> No.16428312

>>16427887
>How much energy does it take to boil a room temperature gallon of water?

Ugh so true I wonder that all the time

>> No.16428912

How long am I supposed to steep tea

>> No.16428955
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Why does my gaiwan look like this

>> No.16428985

>>16428955
It has a bitchin crackle glaze that is becoming stained with tea.
That's actually what is supposed to happen with those crackle glaze pieces and the coloration is considered to be unique and beautiful.
I like when it happens naturally like that instead of the ones where the whole inside and outside comes pre stained from the factory.

>> No.16428987

>>16428912
Check the pastebin, lots of info on brewing and a handy chart with recommended steep times.

>> No.16429001

>>16428985
Oh I thought it was broken or something that's cool. It happened like a week after I started using it.

>> No.16429004

>>16428987
I usually do way longer infusions than recommended and it's good but I tried doing it correctly this time and it tasted like shit

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>>16429001
Yeah sometimes the glaze is under a surface tension and cracks the first few times hot water is added to it. Sometimes its crackled when you get it. It's a really great look, the more elaborate pieces in that style are amazing.
This is before use

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>>16429051
This is after
>>16429004
That's fine, the goal is to make tea that tastes good, those are just rough guidelines to help people get in the right ballpark.

>> No.16429243

>Unsweetened condensed milk in brekky tea
Good
>Sweetened condensed milk in brekky tea
Danger?

>> No.16429565

Do y'all know where twinings green tea is grown? I'm curious what type of tea it is

>> No.16429768

>>16423877
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhIsWYuayxk

>> No.16430190

I have some Temple of Heaven cheap gunpowder, and I kind of worry about what kind of pesticides could be on it.

>> No.16430217

Today I brewed yueguangbai in my YS duanni Yixing gaiwan. At first it tasted pretty okay, but I may have used too much, but then I fucked it up by walking away and forgetting about some tea brewing in there. After that even with non-messed up brews it tasted weird. I still don't know what to do with this thing. It reminded me of something I've observed but don't really see mentioned though, which is that Yixing clay definitely affects the longer brews more so than earlier ones. In hindsight that might be obvious.
>>16429565
Looking it up says Twinings tea is grown in India. Who knows what type of tea it is, I don't drink it.
>>16430190
If you're worried about pesticides get actual quality tea. Gunpowder green tea is only even around because of Africa.

>> No.16430256

today i drank cooked puerh

>> No.16430325

Drinking a duck shit oolong I picked up from a local shop and it’s really bitter :( looks like it has some stems in it

>> No.16430335

>>16430217
cringe. you're a larping white faggot

>> No.16430537

>>16430335
Nigger

>> No.16430552

>>16430217
Duanni is supposed to be quite heavily muting
i found that my clay brew vessels took several weeks to daily use before they really settled down and became slightly less muting.
There are apparently some ways you can hurry that along by leaving tea water in the for a few hours at a time.
If i was going to buy duanni teaware i would use it for either heavily storage scented tea, like hk traditional storage, or strong ripe puers and other similar funky fermented teas.

>> No.16431348

Time for me to buy dozens of clay pots

>> No.16431351

I'm going to spend so much many pots that i cant afford tea anymore

>> No.16431354

that doesn't sound like a good idea

>> No.16431373

It's a fucking great idea, tea is a meme

>> No.16431383

what tea is best with milk?

>> No.16431384

That's a trick question milk tea sucks

>> No.16431390

>>16387972
new thread
>>16431388
>>16431388
>>16431388